This New QD-OLED Panel Goes Crazy Bright | OLED TV War Rages

[@ArunKonanur]

Ok, I think I’m finally making sense of all this interest in peak brightness - at least from my perspective - it’s like headroom in an audio amplifier: you’ll never need to use all that power continuously, but having clean power to spare allows you to operate your equipment in its comfort zone even with demanding material.

[@CertifiedSlamboy]

Yep - same in simracing with nm on wheelbases

[@ErrickJackson]

I would just sub the word 'power' for 'range'. HDR is mastered up to different peaks to represent more tones in the final master distinctively. Not every scene in a project will have data all the way from 0.001 to 4000 nits, but as the HDR masters have increasingly been for 4000 nits peak, televisions that can just represent that as is don't have to engage in things like HDR10+ or Dolby Vision tonemapping down to some lower peak. It can just show the final master as is. And given the contrast and exactness of OLED, it's quite the experience to have the full range of the master able to be presented by the TV, regardless of if it was mastered for 500, 1000, or even 4000 nits peak, which is currently what the best HDR mastering monitor is capable of reaching. I'm very excited we've finally reached this point. Basically means I can just buy any tv with this panel and be good for the next decade or so of shows and films being released.

[@moStallion]

Facts ​@@CertifiedSlamboy

[@scottsacala]

Props to you and your team, Caleb! Your audio/voice levels are exactly the same when you’re in different rooms. If someone was looking away, you wouldn’t know that you were in different rooms throughout the video.

[@xCODFATHER4x]

I don't even have an oled tv but I like this guys passion for talking and nerding out about it. Great host

[@mattf5207]

That’s effing nits!

[@davidm2168]

A whole lotta Shampoo needed😂😂😂😂😂..

[@gtd9536]

Don't stop with the nits! We should all be able to play a video of the Sun and get a tan!! :)

[@Raiyven79]

😂

[@lotusmanb3832]

This past Black Friday I purchased the Samsung QM90D 85" based on your review and it is bar none the best looking 85 in it 's price range I've ever seen. We love it and very happy with the purchase. Thank you guys for what you do.

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Great Tv 👌👌👌👌

[@cloudyview]

Now we just need a price war to start, so that oled comes down to led prices 😄

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Oled is sooo exspensive

[@tam8197]

When the price comes down, something else will exist at a higher price that makes these look mundane. It's how tech works.

[@cliffinkaemurd1320]

it's a matter of production cost.

[@tam8197]

@@cliffinkaemurd1320 ? You're as gullible AF if you really think that.

[@bradhaines3142]

@@cliffinkaemurd1320 TVs in general have been obscenely cheap to make for years. the retailer makes basically nothing on them but every other level they have crazy profits

[@gorillapancake]

QD-OLED'S are bright enough already. How about fixing colour fringing and near-black uniformity?

[@Navhkrin]

This isnt just brightness though, it Also improves longevity of the panels which is most important

[@TheRealBOBlibob]

Color fringing shouldn't be a problem for TV's, but it's definitely a big problem for monitors. It's why I returned the 32-inch 4K monitor I bought.

[@gorillapancake]

@@TheRealBOBlibob Once you see it, it's all over.

[@edwarddavid7893]

Color brightness is perfect, but for example if you are watching skiing or a hocket match it doesn't look as bright as it needs to.

[@Deffinnition]

Great video and coverage of CES! The audio specifically is top notch! Congratz to the team

[@SpaceJazz3K]

My 720p youtube video on an LCD tablet really does justice to these demos.

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Great demos

[@crazydevil622]

😂

[@pewpew9736]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@fiveleafcloverfpv4445]

Watching on a 14 year old LCD with lowered brightness. Looks awesome. Definitely can see the 4000 nits difference.

[@alexmaclean1]

KZbin compression does no favours here but I love hearing about this new stuff every year, thanks for the work you do! For now I'll keep buying the previous year models but it's cool to see what I might buy in 2028 lol

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Totally agree

[@narutosan2006]

I like it all but even my G4 is allready heavy on the eyes in full brightness. It can be straining on the eyes

[@Navhkrin]

Yeah but this translates to longevity so there is that

[@spandel100]

The only time I use 100% pixel brightness in in HDR modes.Otherwise I run things between 40 and 60%.No need to wear out the oleds and also give yourself eye strain.

[@dan9700]

I wish Samsung had Dolby vision

[@dizzzzy001]

It will make no difference even if they had dv.

[@Upscale_King]

If you're just watching streaming content it likely won't matter. The dynamic metadata is only beneficial if the TV can't get as bright as the video calls for. 4k blurays are a different story though since they have an enhancement layer as well.

[@alexl7265]

@@dizzzzy001It makes. If you download the release with DV support, it shows only a black screen

[@3107karan]

I have both lg & Samsung, i can confirm it make no difference, HDR, HDR+, Vision, it’s all the same

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

Everyone does. If they were smart they would just drop HDR10+ altogether and adopt Dolby Vision. Also, if they were smart, they would abandon that absolutely horrible TizenOS of theirs and adopt GoogleTV instead. They won't though, because that would mean admitting they were wrong and they would "lose face" as a result. Can't have that!

[@Nelthalin]

Now the big question for me is when will we have 83 and 97" QD oled panels? I currently have a 83A90J i don't want to to smaller but would like 4000 nits of highlight brightness and the 440 nits full screen.

[@wilsonhensley7475]

But did Samsung say that they will start making these new qd oled panels for the 83'?

[@infoff1]

I've seen no quotes from Samsung just reporters holding up phones to the screen confirming that it's not qd-oled that's being displayed on the floor. That said, so many reporters are repeating that Samsung won't have 83" qd-oled that there must be some unofficial talk on the floor confirming that they won't. This despite all the talk just a week ago that there would be based on those new skus found. In fact, some outlets are still reporting 83" qd-oled is simply unknown so there is no consensus. Personally, if they are supplied, I am hoping Sony is able to take advantage of them in their next qd-oled offering.

[@jillbraser9302]

No 83” QD-OLED . We have an 83” Sony a90J and we don’t want to go down in Size . Guess we will go LG G5 unless Sony has a 4 layer 83” panel too

[@andyvecchiarelli2998]

sony has it !

[@jillbraser9302]

@@andyvecchiarelli2998 you know that for sure ? 👍

[@asif9t9]

Every year the newest tech that makes last year prehistoric. At least that's what they have you believe.

[@markh351]

So true, consumerism at it's finest!

[@macys421297]

Caleb knows a lot about TV and tech, but the animal kingdom, not so much 😂 Love you, Caleb ☺️

[@braveknight6008]

2:50 Have there been any whispers of monitors using the 4th-gen QD-OLED panels in a size larger than 27 inches? I've been eagerly waiting an upgrade in brightness before I buy-in to the 4k @240Hz scene OR a 39" 5k2k @240Hz, but I haven't seen any indication that is likely to happen this year yet.

[@wxman2003]

Will not see this on their actual TV's. Those are Samsung Display Numbers. Samsung Electronics will limit the peak brightness on the 2025 models, just like they did with the 2024 models. The panels were designed to hit 3000 nits, but Samsung limited the TV's to 1800 nits.

[@ashishpatel350]

That was because governments have regulations on tv power consumption

[@haukikannel]

Also because tvs normaalilyseo have a warrantry! You can push 4000 nits… few weeks, even some months… but if the TV has to last over year… they have to dial down!

[@MirelRC]

@@ashishpatel350 That was because that TV would burn the heck out of it and throttle faster than anything else. If they would've used a heatsink on that crap‚ I am sure that it would've been able to go from 1650 - 1750 nits to around 2000 - 2200 nits without problems.

[@Nitro192192]

Well yeah It's an OLED, they have no choice. A QD OLED running 4000 nits would have horrific burn in within a year

[@Cristopher-S.G]

@@Nitro192192 Then they shouldn't advertise it like that. It's a scam, people would think they have a 4000 nits display in their living rooms when they don't

[@tennissir1986]

So will Sony put the latest QD-OlED panel in an update to the A95L ?

[@dan9700]

I just wish 3D TVs would make a come back, using the Vision Pro I still love 3d and I have so many 3d blu rays. I just wish they would bring it back

[@SKLLZTHATKILLZ]

There is a new 3d glasses free monitor

[@dan9700]

@ I know, I want a tv, I wanna watch all my blu rays I brought in 3d over the years

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

​@@SKLLZTHATKILLZ That's just a lenticular film over a 2D panel. It's not the same as 3D displays that use active or passive glasses.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

​@@dan9700 3D on the Vision Pro wipes the floor with 3D on a TV. 3D Blu-rays are only 1080p.

[@dan9700]

@ that’s true I love the Vision Pro for 3d, I thought maybe that would bring 3d tech in TVs to improve like 4k hdr 3d or something

[@LeezahB]

Very interesting presentation on the newest generation of QD-OLED! Thank you!

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Oled are the best 👌👌👌

[@gregbenzphotography]

Is this on the CES show floor or just some private back room? Not seeing many new TVs in the main booths.

[@tatsumaru12345]

They're getting there! 500nits fullscreen has always been when a TV gets impressive to me. It's why I've had to get a qm8, especially with today's dark TV shows. Something about 400nits and Samsung. I had to sell my tab s9, because it's 420nits fullscreen just wasn't enough.

[@John-DiV]

They'll probably back out brightness on an update 2 weeks after it shows up for sale and also more burn in issues. Unless they give a 5-year warranty on that panel I wouldn't buy it

[@LindaKing-y2v]

What's LG doing for a sound bar and sound in general

[@movie_av_impulse]

Shout out to Caleb's Team for pumping out these videos at a rapid pace... You guys are killing it.. ✊🏽

[@AustinT97]

Very informative video, Caleb. Also, I'm curious as to why Samsung doesn't use its QD-OLED panels in its Galaxy smartphones and tablets.

[@ahmet_10]

Birkaç yıla bence getirirler, telefon pazarı tv pazarından daha büyük olduğu için ve qd-oled yeni bir teknoloji olduğu için bir süre daha beklememiz gerekir

[@Navhkrin]

Answer is density. Quantum DOT inkjet printing limits resolution to around 160pp which is too low for smartphones

[@Navhkrin]

​@@ahmet_10Kardeşim bilmediğin konularda sallamak zorunda değilsin niye cevap verme gerekliliği duydun?

[@ahmet_10]

@@Navhkrin sen daha beni tanımadan nasıl böyle cüretkar konuşabiliyorsun, macbook pro m4 250 ppi üstü çözünürlüğe sahip ve quantum dot filtreleri kullanıyor, senin iddia ettiğin gibi 160 ppi sınırı aşıldı bu cihazla

[@ahmet_10]

@@Navhkrin cevap niye vermiyon

[@paulcanniff4308]

the things keeping me away from Samsung: Forced Matte Finish on flagship model Forced One Connect Box on flagship model No Dolby Vision Inferior Motion Processing to LG Inferior Image Processing to LG and Sony To me these cons outweigh the pro of QD-OLED

[@ridvan190333]

The important thing is not how many nit, but staying at those nit values.

[@mp792]

1 Second 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂abbbbbbbbbbbb

[@bradhaines3142]

@mp792 theyres a standard for how they measure it. 'peak' is 10% of the screen for at least 30 seconds i believe.

[@dvnwllms]

Man the A95M is going to be an unreal TV. I hope Sony got Mediatek to stop playing around & offer an SOC that supports 4xHDMI 2.1 ports. It'll be (expensive) perfect 😍

[@ScottSullivanTV]

They'll call it the BRAVIA 10 or something now that they've adopted that naming across the line.

[@dvnwllms]

@ Oh yeah you’re right, I forgot

[@Sansho54]

Leaks are pointing to Sony using the new 4-stack Tandem RGB stack from LG Display. Think LG made Sony a better deal than Samsung Display. :/

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

@@Sansho54nice 👌👌

[@kingyogesh441]

@@Sansho54tandem oled is by far and away the best display tech ever put in a consumer device .

[@dsdddsd4543we]

This is amazing. Very interested in hearing about how they cool these panels.

[@Apollon0077]

I'm at CES myself, would love to shake your hand, I hope to see you tomorrow 😊 will you still be in the central section of the convention center?

[@PhantomRavn]

So is it safe to say now that burn in is no longer an issue?

[@KeirGevo]

Why are these videos not in hdr?

[@H0DLTHED0R]

Because of Kamala Harris

[@tabkg5802]

Because YT hdr is garbage

[@ahmet_10]

If you watch it on your phone, it makes the screen dark, it's better that way.

[@KeirGevo]

@@tabkg5802 what screen do you? Hdr looks much better to me on KZbin when they are showing hdr on screens

[@KeirGevo]

@@H0DLTHED0R both side are the same you people just can't see it

[@cezz1105]

I want to see Samsung new monitors this year. In particular, the ultrawides.

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

I miss my Alpine DVD touch screen LCD with "Pulse Touch". The haptic feedback is 1 thing, but the "snap" when pressing the 3 layered screen was sensational (literally 🙂)

[@GamersGettingPlayed]

But you are a very good sales person I would hire you in a heartbeat

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

He is isn’t he . He could sell ice to the Eskimo’s 😂

[@joewhip9303]

What size screens for the new OLEDs.

[@paulsouders3489]

I just want to know if there is any changes to the Samsung 98" du9000 and q60,q70,and q80

[@adamlen85]

Have you found any updates on the QDEL displays from last year?

[@tabkg5802]

>Make the best display in consumer electronics (maybe) >Ruin it by putting a matte display Samsung male grindset

[@Pocketkid2]

The problem with high brightness TVs is that there isn't even close to enough content that is actually HDR color graded to take advantage of that brightness, at least when you turn on the video profile that actually maintains artistic intention (filmmaker/cinema/movie mode)

[@Mat-hr1dg]

That is why I actually stopped watching correct color calibration for some shows and movies. I just can't anymore. The ignorance of the filmmakers talking about some lost film magic when color grading to hdr standards... it just stupid. Something like Dunkirk? Yeah sure. But for everything else give me the whole goddamn color space. You don't need to emulate film to get a "dirty" picture. There are many methods to create completely new ways of experiencing movies and no one uses them, and those that do often do not know what they are doing at all.

[@wblebon]

Future proof display

[@chibbyylol]

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, cinema cameras are getting better and better

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@Mat-hr1dg I tend to watch movies with my own preferences. Colours look more natural that way and it takes advantage of the brightness of my TV. Honestly I can't help but facepalm when I see all these so-called 'professional' reviews claiming that the Bravia 9 can get up to 2800 nits... when there's reviewers out there pushing out over 3500 nits with it (granted at a minor cost in accuracy, but even at 3000-3200 nits it's still very accurate). And I don't like the settings professionals use either. Cinematic presets and calibrated presets basically suck out much of the colour and brightness. Can't even be claimed to be the 'intended' way for the movie to look because it still looks different on every TV. Even when it comes to mastering movies... it's still just a few people working on the movie who do it. And then the various people who go over it and check it often do so on various other screens. Then there's the cinemas where there's also differences depending on all kinds of factors. Fact of the matter is that there's really no way to reproduce an 'intended' look properly because there's also no way to figure out what it was intended to look like unless you have the actual lossless quality footage straight from the studio and watch it from their equipment. As such, the best way to watch a movie is the way it looks best to you. I feel like these pretentious fake 'cinematic' modes have made the pretentious faux movie buffs extra arrogant and stupid. Even the professionals these days really only review TV's using the basic viewing modes and compare them between each other without actually trying to get the best out of each TV.

[@timmturner]

Dolby Vision is capable of handling 10K nits, it takes minimal changes to target brighter displays. The problem is the top of the line is a more niche market and it's sensible to target L1 at 2K and L2 at 1K in 2025, at least this is the way I see it.

[@DesertChemistry1979]

3:00 that is a Jaguar sir 😉

[@boedilllard5952]

If they can fine tune the stretchable tech a screen that is both visual and braille could be amazing - elevators, and so many other controls for devices.

[@Jweiss76]

How long can they keep up the brightness war? Imo tvs are plenty bright now. I'm more interested in better processing than brightness.

[@TheAntifluencer]

Agreed.

[@Alex-xg8py]

Still holding out hope for a 4k OLED in any capacity down the road. But these are still cool to see in regards to brightness

[@sarracen1]

Was that 500hz refresh rate?

[@kain2875]

Now oled goes to 4k nits what is the benefit to buy a mini led tv?

[@CarGuy11]

Why don’t you film videos in HDR so we can see?

[@drugemp1]

Only one problem. They aren't putting their best QD OLED technology in the 83 inch S95F. And that's very disappointing.

[@LyleVertigo]

Isn't highter the nits the greater risk for burn-in? I feel this might be a marketing ploy to shorten the life of these TVs, or am I missing something like them finding a way to prevent that?

[@GabrielRM]

I think it has to do with heating more than brightness, but I could be wrong as I'm not into TVs much. Panasonic made a big deal of how their brighter panels now have better heat dissipation to avoid burn in despite brighter picture.

[@srenstryhn1726]

What about motion? Is it perfekt, then is it a perfect TV.

[@CasepbX]

I'd be interested in a 42" QD-OLED.

[@bballguy180]

Same! Desk gaming would be great with these bright displays

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

42” is right size for Gaming 👌👌

[@zombielandiii2711]

Does this will be have an effect on burn in ?

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Yeh they all still suffer screen burn from high contrast

[@YoKhoe]

@5:30 if the polarization layer itself helps people see under a sunglasses, why was the layer there in the first place on phones? Doesn't that just add to the cost of building a phone? I assume there are other reasons for that layer

[@TheRealBOBlibob]

400 nits fullscreen is amazing. When will we get QD-OLED monitors that can do the same?

[@mohammedfaiisal]

Is RGB tandem oled better than QD OLED? I'm sure one has a much higher risk of burn in, than the other

[@grcigar9911]

Are there any innovations left for LCD?

[@jamesleonard85]

How bright do we actually need to get though? I have the first gen S95B and see no reason to upgrade yet. Maybe in a year or two, five or six years is a good time to get out of a €2,000 tv.

[@nimblegoat]

With same new blue as LG Display both should have increased gamut - hues are how bright a pure colour can be. Maybe why LGD held off quoting any increased gamut , as know Samsung display gets same benefits . Both great techs. Excited for the tandem RGB as maybe less downsides and more control in dark scenes as well

[@kudretkeskinTR]

0:43 look at that wood path way and red colors 0:48 ? I'm talking about this more nits less color 0:50 red yellow green colors 1:15 look at the creek way/line 1:42 where is the mount at the right panel? and also at the 0:36

[@kudretkeskinTR]

more nits less rich color I guess. I just observe in this video

[@changeagent228]

Over 400 nits fullscreen is better. Do they have gloss nice like s95c or anti reflective weird stuff like s95d?

[@haukikannel]

Any infor if there are cominh any monitors using this brigter panel? Finally oled monitor that can go to 1000 nits? No? Fulscreen 100 nits? No? Any info about these smaller screens would,be nice to get.

[@ViscaBarca912]

RTINGS had the S95D (2024 OLED) at 1600 nit 2% window. How does samsung have it at 3,000? I dont think the 2025 one will hit 4,000 with accurate colors, maybe 2000.

[@datdudeinred]

Can't wait for that 27" 5k monitor 😮 I wish someone makes an 8k 32" oled monitor even if it's 60hz or 120hz.

[@eduard6450]

5:40 This has already been implemented on the latest Realme GT7 Pro! It's one of the brightness and most efficient displays on any smartphone thanks to this tech, wonder if there's any downsides

[@mphillips2110]

Most likely the same downside to every oled and that's a greater risk of burn in.

[@VivaLaFamous]

When is the S95F releasing?

[@ayezal-hajri1762]

Why didn't Samsung release QD OLED 8k tv ?

[@qudamaa6744]

I wish they can apply this wonderful tec without their glare free or at less give us the options

[@georgebrowVn]

The importance of community governance in XAI508P cannot be overstated.

[@devinmurray5280]

Amazing display is a great section of the company. They make great panels. I wish the parts of the company that make the actual finished TV product didn’t suck every year.

[@huss1205]

So S95F TVs is using this new QD-OLED with 4000 nits brightness?

[@kimpossible4450]

Can't wait for the next black friday!

[@johanmelis12]

Qd oled already used alot more power then MLA and couldn’t sustain its peaks How will it be able to sustain them now ?

[@bucclao209]

Is qd-oled hybrids of both world ???

[@harsha1908]

3:05 Now you got me confused if it is Puma or Jaguar or Panther 😅

[@TheLapari]

Leopard aka panther

[@ViscaBarca912]

its a leopard

[@tacoconch7678]

Looks like a leopard. That particular one has a wide head like a jaguar though. I had to do a double take.

[@andonakis77]

Amazing displays now more amazing, that’s amazing 🎉

[@humoody]

It this same panel in s95f?

[@Deadleaus]

😂🥴

[@jaynews12]

Caleb, did they confirm the QD-Oled sizes for 2025? Did a Samsung Display Representative mention if they would release 83 inch QD Oled for 2025?

[@LeezahB]

My understanding is there is no 83 inch qd oled panel

[@manojgail]

I decided against Samsung and went for LG G3 3 years back mainly due to lack of Dolby Vision. I'd prefer Sony QD-OLED overall, but they delay their launch to end of year almost in my country and plus they are 20-25% more expensive than Samsung and LG generally for similar product.

[@dsoprano13]

Honestly, DV is overrated. When I look at a Samsung S90D, I can't imagine what more you could possibly need.

[@scottsacala]

Those vertical turned screens, though!

[@UnixGoldBoy]

Why not peak 10,000 nits like both TCL and HiSense have in their TOTL TVs?

[@Slither54GT3.R]

QD Oled is my favorite display type i love the colors i have the alienware aw2725df monitor

[@randyduncan795]

This is great! Now if we can get the hardheads in Samsung management to grasp the concept that high end TV buyers sometimes turn out to be high end audio buyers and demand support for DTS and Dolby Vision. I own 3 Samsung TVs but my last two purchases were LG & Sony. I might even add another Panasonic like the 95B. What I can guarantee is that I won't buy another Samsung until they respect the industry & their customers enough to adhere to and support these standards.

[@nazhussain3411]

Please can u confirm if samsung s95f tv supports WiFi 7

[@joeferguson3820]

Probably not, there is not much of a market or infrastructure to utilize WIFI 7 yet. A TV using Wifi 6 or Wifi 6E will suit almost 100% of all needs.

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

Very unlikely at this point as the cost of those adapters is still too high. Probably won't see those on TVs until 2026 at the soonest. Plus, there's nothing that would even make use of that additional bandwidth to a TV yet content wise so there's no real reason for them to adopt it yet.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

Why would you need that on the TV if you can connect a streaming device that has it (and can be easily upgraded as technology advances).

[@StudyWithNika]

looking forward to 5k 27 OLED. It would be perfect for my new M4 Mac Mini

[@SpacePop1974]

Where are the new mini LEDs from Samsung his year?

[@cyberedge881]

They can make a 27" 4k QD-OLED panel but somehow can't make a 42 inch one. That's all I've been waiting for: a 42" QD-OLED with glossy screen and black frame insertion mode.

[@anonhiki]

why do you need so many nits my monitor is 250 and i never have it that bright wtf?

[@bearclaw5115]

Manufacturers: We want larger OLED's now! Preferably QD-OLED's! I already have a 77". Not upgrading until bigger is better!

[@peaheaduk]

Not sure i trust Samsung on the Nits pb.

[@diarrabouba9909]

THANKS

[@randydavis58]

I’m really getting bullish on the XAI508P eco system

[@dan9700]

Would the Samsung now be brighter and better image quality than the lg g5?

[@Tek21502]

Yes

[@Sedge86]

Looks to be a little brighter but the new lg panels are advertising brightness increases as well. Image quality comes down to more than just brightness though. They'll likely be extremely similar again in a blind test.

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

It doesn't really even matter as both companies still over-boost and over-saturate their colors by default on all of their TVs. It's 2025 now and they still haven't managed to correct that yet. How is that even possible? (When your default settings right out of the box make grasses and trees look like they are all in Chernobyl, you know something's not right with their approach to color science.)

[@omc951]

@@michaelbeckerman7532set it to filmmaker and stop complaining online. TVs have never been so accurate out of the box and that includes both of those brands

[@verttisyrjala2897]

@@michaelbeckerman7532Are you for real? You do like 5 clicks on the remote to enable Filmmaker mode on any modern TV to get a fairly accurate experience, of course some gamma issues and white balance issues are expected, but nothing too crazy. Colors certainly aren't oversatured with any of the major brands in the TVs most accurate modes.

[@mickael486]

Can someone explain to me why we're so obsessed with brighter screens? I have my LG OLED at 55 brightness and even then it's sometimes too bright. Are we watching these televisions outside or something?

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Yeh I don’t get it either , I watch mine on low brightness setting

[@antares3518]

It's nothing really. 90% of people who complain about the tv don't even own the tvs. They just have too much free time to complain about every little thing

[@evilnillaz]

Higher peak brightness is effective for specular highlights in HDR content. Higher full screen brightness helps to the limit the potential for ABL to kick in.

[@BruceLeeRoy26]

It’s a sales tactic, so many people are obsessed with numbers and associate higher with better. Nits in regards to effective brightness for example caps out like 2000, the higher you go the more diminishing returns you get. Brightness perception isn’t linear, 4000 nits doesn’t mean it’s twice as bright as 2000 nits. Samsung got their suckers, hook, line and sinker.

[@Hirnlego999]

It's for things to pop out at certain points quite a bit better I'm OK for this to happen on TVs, not so important on monitors as I set so close to 'em

[@darthniloc6099]

What Samsung tv had 3000nits in 2024 because it wasn't the S95D as its highest output was about 1600nits on 2% and 10% window? The S90D was even less with about 1200nits on a 2% and 10% window.

[@ViscaBarca912]

yeah I think theyre measuring it in a very specific inaccurate color setting

[@abg360ss]

​@@ViscaBarca912 Nope, it reaches 3155 nits at D65 after modify their Ana peaks in Service Menu at 2%APL

[@ViscaBarca912]

@@abg360ss not safely then

[@Matthew-Coburn-Da-Dude]

I think that stretching screen would be good for 3D movies if it ever becomes feasible. I really wished 3D would come back & yes, it's a gimmick but so are movies & shows to begin with. A gimmick to entertain us after a big day. I also would really like to see if Vizio is a part of CES again. Would be nice if they finally have something to make them stand out again.

[@skyhookgaming1764]

Whats with the battle to build brighter and brighter TVs? My 2023 sony a95l oled is burning my retinas and I have to use a dimmed down picture setting.

[@mrtriathlondude]

I know right? When I watch HDR movies in a dark room I wince every time the screen flashes white on my Samsung S95B. It's eye searing... I will be happy with it for a very long time

[@brodelicious]

I agree. Only improvement I can see being useful is to full screen brightness in SDR with little to no auto dimming.

[@gbej1]

Thank you, this is is exactly what I think each time I hear TV reviews and TV manufacturers primarily focusing brightness. It’s as if people use their TVs to light up stadiums

[@joelrene1559]

I think it’s for two reasons (at least) one is to match the nits for Dolby Vision (4,000 - 10,000) another is to fight the sun and the “not bright enough” allegations. But honestly, you’d have to sit farther away. I have a cheap Vizio V series and white scenes will hurt my eyes if the backlight is too high. However, since it isn’t an OLED, the picture never looks correct. It’s missing those accurate Blacks. I think these companies should be focusing more on accuracy, motion, and ease of use.

[@verttisyrjala2897]

Oleds are still heavily limited in 100% window brightness, leading to bright scenes in HDR being dimmer than they should be.