Here's What I Think Of Jordan Peterson - Jocko Willink

[@ChrisWillx]

Watch the full episode here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/onTMi2V9Z6yGj5Y

[@Tigerhearty]

Jordan p is a Zloshill promoting noahide laws and the culling of gentiles for his masters

[@michaelcorcoran3942]

@@ChrisWillx Yeah I guess it's that out of place music, but perhaps you like that music and then that's that. As long as it's not based on some stats or perhaps it's free to use. Either way the guy said that in the most rude way. Great video man, awesome interviews

[@sxxxlt]

looks incredible and im surprised how good the acoustics are. i thought there would be more echo but its really good audio

[@ashleyrudland9162]

insane, happy to see more brits in the US

[@anomalyraven]

It looks amazing Chris! I especially loved your episode with Andrew recently. I'm looking forward to the full episode of this one!

[@Ermz]

When a Navy SEAL and psychologist come to the same conclusions independently, it's a good time to sit and listen.

[@karnazacss]

No, because Jordan is a bigot, sexist, racist, transphobe, classist... right, right?

[@devynselnes4282]

You would like Stephan Molynuex....skip the wikipedia page, none of it is true.

[@k.o.hakala2112]

Depends on what.

[@k.o.hakala2112]

I respect Peterson as a teacher of psychology and self motivation.. his ideas on politics and security policy I despise intensely.

[@maddielopez8625]

@k i e r a n you have someone who has pushed their body to the limits, and someone who has pushed their mind to the limits. When both of those people come to the same conclusions, it at least warrants curiosity as to what they have to say.

[@bryan101384]

Both Jordan and Jocko have completely changed my life. Their words and philosophies have gotten me through some of my darkest hours. Jocko has taught me how to say GOOD to life's struggles, to take ownership of my life, and that discipline truly does equal freedom, amongst so much more. Jordan has taught me to always aim UP towards my highest self, to be a strong father, to clean my room, and again so much more.

[@TheCam217]

I’d love to shake both their hands one day and say thank you, as well as goggins, the father figure types that I never had growing up. I couldn’t be more thankful

[@ChristianSignorino]

I got the opportunity to watch and listen to Jordan Peterson in person back in March, and it was incredibly awe inspiring….Also he still sounds like Kermit in real life lmao

[@TheMiggy144]

hahahaaa

[@TheCam217]

@R J you’re over analyzing, go outside or something 🤣

[@davruck1]

@R J and a monster hypocrite. He’s a piece of 🗑. Wouldn’t be surprised if he takes the Kevin Samuels route soon.

[@eagerlawncare3700]

The odd part of this conversation is that each generation must, for some reason figure those truths out all over again for themselves

[@brodude7194]

You have to walk it, just listen doesn't work on it's own

[@FilmsByDan]

That's the truth. We're all living stories that share the exact same theme. While we choose different paths, there isn't really variation to life.

[@timothysnow4107]

We should also respect those generations that have gone before us and learn what we can.

[@jelkel25]

Every generation has to make it work for their situation but the fundamentals haven't changed since Marcus Aurelius was making his "truths" fit in around dealing with many angry Germans and many back stabbing Romans.

[@inconnu4961]

@@timothysnow4107 This is what every previous generation wants desperately for the succeeding generation! And we largely cant achieve it! We have this need to suffer everything in life personally! Then once we have, we become the older generation who wants badly to impress upon our kids to do better, not the same. And our kids largely follow our foot steps as well. Then they become old and try to impress on the grand kids! LMAO its absolutely maddening how difficult it is to really make gains!

[@snap0179]

I found Jocko when I first decided to stop drinking on 11/19/2018. I had to stop drinking, and learn to live without booze at the center of my life as it had for about 20 years. Jocko bestowed 'discipline = freedom' upon me, and I had to learn what that meant the hard way. Now after 1334 days without booze, and down 80 pounds, I have found some of that freedom. Each day is a mission in sourcing more. Thank you Chris for hosting, the ideas discussed here have profoundly changed, and continue to change, the course of my life.

[@ericmills9781]

Stay on the path brothers

[@banmadabon]

The counting of the passing days without booze certainly gives you pride and sense of accomplishment but IMO fixate your thoughts too much on the issue. It make me feel about it such as a ticking bomb, The days with no booze are now "the norm" Just keep it like that! Good luck and stay strong

[@snap0179]

@@banmadabon The only reason I know my number because of an app I use to track and I write the number in a journal. It represents the journey in terms of distance for me personally. I agree with you, too much focus on the number isn't good for me either as I was hyper focused on it during the first year. I have also never 'counted' anything in my life, so this seems like a good metric to know for me. Stay strong as well, thanks for the feedback friend!

[@badger7275]

That is awesome. Keep going Brother

[@Snikliw]

Congrats. His book made me decide to help with painkillers 2 years ago. It’s been a battle. But I’m still in the fight. GOOD

[@adamgriss2025]

I just have to say, Chris, that as a long time fan of your content, I am exceedingly impressed with how your content is constantly improving. Thank you.

[@kratos.8151]

Just a shame the quality of his guests have deteriorated. So many racists and right wing idiots unchallenged.

[@Josh-sj9ig]

Bit boring but not as dull and dweeby as the lotus lads x

[@Hoyts_Hillside_Farm]

Set and lighting look great. Props to the video crew

[@EchoesofaDistantTime]

The man reads. Shouts out chris. Keep grinding. You’ll look back in 20 years and be proud. We love you in the US.

[@BenMJay]

Bill Cosby used to preach personal responsibility to young black men. So the establishment bribed a bunch of women to claim he raped them. Without a scintilla of evidence.

[@ahmadnaser8192]

"If there's someone stealing things, can you let me know?" is a very intimidating statement. Gotta love and respect Jocko

[@MandrakeDCR]

Yeah, I loved that... a touch of almost childhood eagerness in there it sounded like. lol

[@Milo19970]

@@MandrakeDCR He was ready to smoke some dudes hahah

[@TheCelticsAREboss]

Also pretty pretentious

[@MandrakeDCR]

@@TheCelticsAREboss Pretentious is a pretty difficult definition to apply to Jocko - I'll bite, let me have it. How so?

[@TheCelticsAREboss]

@@MandrakeDCR He's trying to play the tough-guy/hero role, "Is anyone trying to rob us? Let me know, i'll handle them!" We get it, Joko, you're a former Navy Seal, you go to the gym a lot, and you probably carry a firearm.

[@forgetaboutit1069]

“Really great moral teachers never do introduce new moralities: it is quacks and cranks who do that.... The real job of every moral teacher is to keep on bringing us back, time after time, to the old simple principles which we are all so anxious not to see” - C.S. Lewis

[@TylerLyon]

Guys like me grew up with no strong father figure. I think that's the main reason we search far and wide for these messages of responsibility and self accountability. Jordan helped me grow up and I appreciate that so much. Jocko is a great example as well.

[@dwrabauke]

​@Jack Sprat You take one incident out of hundreds without context and use this to try and discredit a person you know nothing more about than you can read on the internet.

[@TylerLyon]

@Jack Sprat sorry you feel that way. He's made a way more positive impact on the world than you or I have so I will absolutely respect him for his positive contributions to society.

[@savagejuicebox13]

@Jack Sprat yeah after reading your comments I can tell you are just a flaming narcissist. Get some help, good luck.

[@kristofferdanielsen2704]

@@TylerLyon You hit the head of the nail with those words Tyler! Exact same experience for me, I remember when I read his book I started crying at random paragraphs as they resonated deeply within, like a fatherly lesson I never learned, but now learned through JP's words.

[@goatboy150]

Read Proverbs 🙂

[@Vitalbowhunting]

“If someone is stealing someone can you please let me know” lol imagine the look on the thief’s face when Jocko comes through the door

[@gigabrad4570]

Jocko's gon fold him lmao

[@klipser66]

It's never a good thing for a thief when someone can't hardly wait to meet them 😁😁 Especially if that someone is an avatar of a Navy SEAL

[@KhanyoMjamba]

Soon as he said that, I suddenly got worried for the thief

[@Milo19970]

When Jocko hits that thief you'll probably here the sound of an anvil🤣

[@klipser66]

​@Jack Sprat Thief has entered the chat

[@fosco3183]

Best quote about Jordan Peterson’s contributions: “What’s true isn’t new, what’s new isn’t true”

[@outlinehappiness]

I discovered Jocko’s podcast before coming across Jordan Peterson. Both have given incredible contributions to better society. Both incredible examples of discipline and perseverance.

[@choronos]

You're just going to overlook Peterson's blatant transphobic ranting, or were you just not aware? The only reason he's famous at all is for going on TV to misrepresent the content of Bill C-16 and fraudulently claim that trans pronouns are somehow a threat to free speech. Check the laws, there's not a single one in Canada or the US that prosecutes a person for misgendering someone. Bill C-16 itself has precisely nothing to do with criminal prosecution, it's a garden variety bill that adds trans people to the Canadian government's list of protected groups that can't be discriminated against _by the government._ I know this because I actually read the bill. Peterson is a hack conservative reactionary. His grift is to maintain a veneer of intellectual and academic credibility while he directly panders to the anti-SJW and Trump crowd to fuel his career as the far Right's favorite public intellectual. He recently signed a deal with the Daily Wire, a far right propaganda media outlet that receives most of their funding from fossil fuel billionaires. He's appeared in PragerU videos, a far Right propaganda KZbin channel that has uploaded literal pro-slavery content. I think they actually deleted that one because of the levels of negative feedback they received, but you can easily find evidence that it existed by watching videos other content creators made about it. The other content on PragerU is little better. I just want to make sure you aren't fooled by this charlatan. Jocko is a hack too for increasingly associating with right wing nutjobs like Peterson and Ben Shapiro. He might consider that he once took an oath to protect the United States constitution, so perhaps he should stop rubbing elbows with authoritarians and people who push political conspiracies and claim the 2020 election was stolen.

[@dashrirprock]

And both are frauds.

[@Darkman3299]

@@dashrirprock Why? Because they advise basic values/virtues and make money off it? Is that the crux of what you think?

[@dashrirprock]

​@@Darkman3299 No. In the case of Jocko, he urges hard work and honesty, but lies about TRT and any other anabolics. Peterson's a basketcase advising others on how to live life while being a full blown drug addict.

[@choronos]

@@Darkman3299 Values? Jordan Peterson regularly disseminates hateful rhetoric against trans people, riddled with lies and misrepresented truths. The man is a clinical psychologist, he should know better than to publicly bully a marginalized group that suffers from disproportionate levels of suicide and mental illness as a direct result of their difficulty finding acceptance in society and at home. Which "basic value/virtue" does that fall under? Trans people, especially black trans women, are subject to real world violence EVERY DAY. Rhetoric like Jordan Peterson's contributes to that violence in a very real way. Jordan Peterson is a charlatan of the highest order.

[@AP2BP]

As a kid coming from a fatherless home. Thank you jocko.

[@anslogarrick7638]

Bless your soul that’s what they’re here for a grade to help when we were in our darkest hours or days it tends to come in waves but definitely I agree and that’s good to hear same for me and no electricity sometimes and even cat food is weird as that sounds

[@johnbravo1034]

🙏

[@911heroesandme]

I think people are drawn to difficult things because, intuitively, we know (although we hope it's not the case), that quick fixes like "3-minute workouts", "learning a language in 15 minutes a day", etc. are not really going to help us meet our goals/improve our lives. The "toughness" of an accomplished person telling you that the road ahead is worth it but difficult carries a true kick of reality that, I believe, many people find refreshingly honest. Yes, you can accomplish these things, but it's gonna take a lot of work and discipline.

[@gregevenden6515]

I totally agree, but I wanted to say from my experience that 15 minutes a day of studying language is actually a good amount of time to dedicate to that goal that will pay off. The difficulty and discipline comes in by sticking with it for as long as it takes and not giving up after the first week, not to mention progressing in a systematic way. Perhaps you start with 15 minutes and day and graduate by five minutes every five months or something.

[@jacobray1492]

You can learn languages closely related to English to some level of fluency if you do 15 minutes a day. Learning languages such as Spanish, Italian, French, Dutch etc. according to the US Foreign Language Institute, take on average 600 hours to reach fluency. If you do 15 minutes a day it will take you a little over six years, however, this is for "Professional working fluency" to reach a comfortable level it likely will be much less time. I agree with Greg's comment, and think that it is much better to work consistently every day even if for 15 minutes instead of doing 75 minutes one day a week. With less closely related languages (Asian languages, Arabic, etc.) 15 minutes a day will not suffice, as 15 minutes a day will only bring you to "Professional" fluency after 24 years.

[@Afed390]

You'd love Goggins

[@SpecialJay]

@@jacobray1492 As someone who learned Arabic, I'd say that it's very important to be very dedicated for the first few months. I lived in Cairo and went to school full time to learn. When you have that grounding you can then kick back and gradually improve because you have self directed access to a wide range of media like books, comics, TV etc that will do much of the work for you. In conclusion, it isn't linear.

[@SeraphsWitness]

That first Jocko/Peterson interview was one of the most phenomenal podcasts I've ever heard. It was like two utterly different minds circling the globe and meeting at the same spot philosophically. Really really stunning stuff.

[@Krasbin]

Well, I believe J Peterson also had a psychology practice. So he didn't only study the theory, he also did help people with psychological issues. Right now, he is that, but on a bigger scale.

[@elgriego331]

Absolute truth is Absolute Truth. Peterson is gifted in explaining it. Absolute truth will never change and people who are honest will gravitate to it no matter how scary or painful it is! John 14:6

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

elgriego331 "Absolute truth is Absolute Truth" That is as bad as circular reasoning can get. Oh, no wonder. You're quoting the Bible. There is no better example of circular reasoning than seeing the reasoning behind religion. You can't even show that there is such a thing as "truth" or "absolute truth". It's all a big "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

[@elgriego331]

@@SamIAm-kz4hg You just proved my point. Is it absolutely true that there is no absolute truth?

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

@@elgriego331 "Is it absolutely true that there is no absolute truth?" I never made this claim.

[@joshsmith748]

@@elgriego331 this is exactly how Jordan Peterson talks though, he will insinuate something heavily so there’s only one logical conclusion. When asked if that’s what he means he will say “I don’t know”. He never says anything with his chest.

[@1LadyM7]

This looks amazing. So elegant, so well shot, and as always the conversation is top notch. I can only imagine where you'll be a few years from now. Great job all around.

[@campy3888]

That's the best thing about listening to Jordan Peterson sometimes. It's satisfying to hear some things you've learned through life experiences laid out in a way that helps you understand why you came to those conclusions.

[@BjornDov]

“If someone is stealing things, could you let me know?” Said in such a calm voice made me chuckle knowing what those guys would get if they were 😄 Jordan says a very powerful thing about integrating one’s shadow and taming owns monsters, so that your kindness out of choice, not because you don’t have teeth. I love his expression - “carry a sheathed sword” this moment in the video made me remember that.

[@zakeg2620]

I think one of the major things you realise as you grow older is that objective wisdom really does exist. Small pieces of advice and how to think actually always helps you and has helped humans since our inception. Things like "waste not " and " dont throw stones in glass houses" really do have deeper meanings than just the literal sense we assume when we are young. I think we need a new renaissance where we go back and rediscover the wisdom and knowledge of those who came before. It already has happened for many but society as a whole seems to be going in the opposite direction and dresses it as "progress". Edit - reading meditations by Marcus aurelius really does put it into perspective. An emperor who lived over 1000 years ago has so much more in common with me than i thought and his writings are still applicable today, if not, even more than when he wrote them.

[@kylesmith7413]

I completely agree. I actually am a broken record. I say that, "people forget why we do the things we do and in the process of restructuring or increasing efficiency we lose out on something important." I think that is true in all aspects of life. I find it scary when people go against logic with illogical approaches. I look at movies like Fight Club and Idiocracy and then I think "Yep. We're screwed."

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

More like 2000 years ago. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[@zakeg2620]

@@kylesmith7413 Yes it seems that as humans rush towards progress and maximising efficiency we forget that some things seem like they are a benefit in the short term however we do lose something in the long term. I think phones/social media are a glaring example of that. Also the fact we now have access instant information. It has taken away many people's ability to use critical thinking and form true meaningful relationships. You can even see this in movies made today. Characters dont make sense and their relatiuonships to one another are unrealistic and abnormal. Something I have definitley felt anyway being only 24 I see my generation going the wrong direction. Something has gone and it will be a war to get it back.

[@zakeg2620]

@@ChristAliveForevermore I did say "over 1000 " ;)

[@zakeg2620]

@@ChristAliveForevermore I couldnt remember the exact dates but i knew it was "AD" so i said over 1000 instead but youre right closer to 2000. Makes you think perhaps people even 5000 years ago had the same moral/societal struggles we have today.

[@KNoyes420]

Although JP rise to public awareness was after Jocko wrote his book, to be clear, JP published maps of meaning long before Jocko was a public figure or published author. I do find it interesting that both of them developed very similar threads of thought and worldviews, they both have different approaches and I think allows reach to a broader audience. The western world needs more people like these who are willing and capable of public communication.

[@AppleJacksCereal]

Yeah Jordan Peterson was definitely studying this stuff waaaaaaaay before he became famous.

[@Peopleofthesun386]

No Junkie Peterson is a conman his jump into the mainstream was a lie

[@lachlanstuart91]

Definitely agree. We need more people like these gentlemen having these conversations

[@onlyhereformoney175]

JP is a propagandist and a hypocrite

[@tysono2012]

Jp was famous in 2016. Jockos book came out in 2017

[@concernedcitizen6577]

The smartest tough guy and the toughest smart guy.

[@aimson]

Let's also remember that JP spent a portion of his career doing individual psychotherapy with clients. I've learned an incredible amount about life and psychology from doing therapy with veterans. for 10 years - sometimes learning from what NOT to do :)

[@Kimmcleod22]

Jordan Peterson has an amazing ability to communicate the message better than anyone else. He is so humble, humorous and articulate.

[@robg4472]

Humorous is in the eye of the beholder. He is articulate. But humble? Seriously he named his university after himself and walks around adorned with his own signature. You my friend have a very liberal definition of humble.

[@scholesiefirsttime]

⁠@@robg4472naming his university after himself is for obvious reasons - like many before him who have named charitable/institutions of good causes in their own name. You’ll have to explain the other one. If these are arguments against the subjects humbleness I’d need to hear more.

[@StevenWolfe-lx8js]

Idiot. When he decided to ACT AS IF GOD exists his net worth grew 10 times. . He doesn't believe. He acts like. Wtf is that. He also believes in a pecking order for human intelligence and he is on top.

[@goatboy150]

He uses big words, but that's about all. Human nature is easy to figure out.

[@StevenWolfe-lx8js]

@@goatboy150 if you are really smart you could explain your position to a 5:the grader

[@BrockLanders]

One way to tell how much inner strength and character a person has is to see how much they are affected by small things like people’s words or opinions. While someone who is mentally strong like Jocko can ignore and even laugh off people’s ignorant comments to him, we have a lot of feeble minded individuals in society today who complain about things like “micro aggressions” and claim that words are violence.

[@mechanicjobs]

Wow TT, I learned somthing very important today about judging character from your comment. Thank you. 👍❤🇨🇦

[@byronmukai5466]

It's true. Recognizing "micro-aggressions" is different than being radically affected by them.

[@BrockLanders]

Exactly. Expecting and demanding people say what WE want them to say is a selfish and dysfunctional way to go through life. What’s next? Are we going to be offended when we want the sun to shine and it rains instead? Because that’s where we’re headed...

[@edeancozzens3833]

@@byronmukai5466 try just ignoring and forgiving them instead of looking for things to be critical of and offended by. Try growing up and being more adult.

[@outsidechambaz]

The only people who claim words are violence have never experienced legitimate violence themselves. They would be able to tell one from the other if they had an expanded perspective

[@junaid_ahmed_]

"If there's someone stealing things can you let me know" damn that was low-key badass knowing Jocko's background🤣

[@jd3d_cgi]

“Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.” ― Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune 1985

[@jamesthomson6133]

Chris is probaby the only one out there who pays attention to video quality of podcast. Listening to em is great, but sitting down and watching a high quality podcast is another experience, you feel like included in the conversation.

[@Hoppitot]

this is probably one of the reasons why this podcast and also trash taste has been so successful

[@amazingcaucasian1]

I'd say the first thing I noticed myself learning from JP is to be more careful with my words. I actually started to listen to myself and be precise on what I was saying. Doing that allowed me to focus more on what was being told to me and I started really listening to what other people were saying. Out of curiosity, what has anyone else learned from JP?

[@learninghub735]

I've learned a lot from J.Peterson. First of all, my standards for what it means to be thoughtful and eloquent are much higher thanks to him because you don't often meet people like him. Like you, I'm much more precise with the words I use now, because even what we might consider synonyms have subtle nuances. I also understood that knowing the meaning of words means understanding the world itself, because you cannot know a word and not know what it refers to in the real world. I learned a lot about psychology too. The differences between men and women in terms of personality traits (The Big 5 model) the dangers of being too agreeable and how to overcome it. Luckily I score 50% in agreeableness so at least half the people are above me. I might have forgotten a few things and I keep learning.

[@giosven374]

I'm the kind of men that could be considered lucky in the eyes of others, but I've learned from JP that the current state of my life is a direct result of the sacrifices I've made, I was acting out what I believed to be true, but I did not know how to articulate it.

[@DionysusAlexanderChrist]

I have applied concepts from both of these men into my life and I have experienced a definite improvement in my life

[@exaltotun4974]

Lol when Jocko asks them to let him know if people are stealing things outside the studio.

[@handychandy8101]

Bad day to be a thief. Jocko would just twist that guy up like a pretzel and they could continue the podcast until cops showed up lol.

[@mattrennie6876]

@@handychandy8101 He wouldn't even have to, I'd imagine he'd give them a stern moral lecture that would stick with them forever and inspire change.

[@mintsnake]

The reason why I listen to Jordan Peterson's lectures a lot is because I also came to the same conclusions. And not just him, I've also learned to identify those who've come to the same conclusions in almost every field of study. Very, very cool. I came to these conclusions through some weird combination of physics, marie kondo, chess, and a lot of internet/KZbin time. Felt crazy, but checked and verified it through schools of philosophy and religion throughout history, and it all just repeats the same rules of the universe. I just wanted to add: yes, do the hard thing, but you ideally do it in a way that expresses your you-ness the best, in a way that makes you happiest (same thing). And do it in a way that you are wholly focused on the joy in the work and not attached to the outcome. In other words, don't expect a reward other than the joy of the work.

[@ashlielove6513]

Thank you to Joe Rogan for introducing me to both Jocko and Jordan Peterson who have increased my quality of life and critical thinking skills immensely. You guys are the dads we all need ❤️

[@seventhtrumpet2012]

Validation of your beliefs by someone who's opinion you value is always a wonderful thing.

[@themagnificentche1119]

Because there is virtue in struggle!! To quote JP.. I love these conversations.. since I first started listening to them I realised that there were a lot of pieces missing in my own personal jigsaw of life. I guess that I am not the only one here who gets this. With all this shit going down in todays society there are huge beacons of light speaking reason and logic and positivity. 🤩✊🤘

[@pierrebitcan]

Gotta say, your lighting guy does some awesome work. This looks so slick. Content is top notch, of course.

[@HalcyonDaze149]

I’ve been really excited for this one! Can’t wait for it to drop on Spotify in full.

[@chty101]

We're drawn to people telling us to do hard things because we've ALWAYS been told to take it easy. Dont go too hard.. And we do that and feel useless. It doesnt feel good to not do anything for years.. Thats why.

[@ctburcham]

I was never told to take it easy

[@Jagunco]

I recall a friend of mind really knacked his knee up, anything he could of done to it happned. I had a fairly good view of his "Recovery" because I sometimes gave him lifts to the hospital. He did exactly nothing the physio told him to do. More over he used that knee to get out of every physical job he didn't feel like doing. His knee has flared up again of course and he now walk with crutches, or he did the last time I saw him, and he's gained considerable weight.

[@paulthorade6977]

Some people have to learn that what they think is the easy way in fact ends up being the hardest way.

[@josevillarreal9920]

I've seen the same thing where a doctor told him he should've been out of the cast and wheel chair weeks ago.

[@patrickhenry4675]

I recently did a full knee replacement. I hit the rehab hard and in 7 weeks achieved the maximum flex the new joint was capable of. Knees are a use it or lose it rehab target.

[@Jagunco]

@@patrickhenry4675 Oh yeah it was a sorry thing to see. He made exactly no effort and said there was no point.

[@sipioc]

I can pull wisdom from both Jordan and Jocko on a daily basis. Chris too.

[@Simon53188]

It's odd, both what Jocko and Peterson said, I have always thought, but when they say it's a huge confirmation that I have been doing the right thing, made some huge errors, but I am learning from them. Nice to have some sane voices out there.

[@glundgren2097]

Most of us know that success is a hard road... getting advice from those who have been where you want to go points us onto our path.

[@nicomal]

Jocko is an amazing person, very intelligent. I love his strategy oriented person.

[@wjuziah]

The aesthetic of this video is beyond disgustingly good. Thank you

[@BayleyPantlin96]

Both have had tremendous impacts on my life for the better. Very interesting to see that they’ve come to similar conclusions.

[@ChrisRaynorMD]

I loved the physical therapy analogy as it is quite relatable to what I do daily. In rehabilitation and in all things, people shy away from those things that are difficult. We are afraid of difficulty and discomfort.

[@Oyuki-Mayonesa]

Doing hard things increases testosterone.

[@adohmnail6445]

It is awesome that the academic enhances the known experience and wisdom of Jocko. Two outstanding men in uniquely different ways.

[@OnlyFriesians]

One massive and incredibly important difference between Peterson and Willink is that Peterson goes through life angry and pointing fingers, while Willink appears to be somewhat calmer and more composed. I assume this is because Willink has an outlet through physical exertion.

[@Mohammadali_9999]

I've got a question, I learned from guys like Jocko that trying the hard path to find out what things we are able to achieve is the right thing and from Goggings and Peterson that we are responsible of becoming our greatest but then I encounter people that don't see it or don't like what I'm doing or will never like your achievements because they're not on board and you kinda have to let them go. Then I read 48 laws of power by Robert Greene that says avoid showing all your talents and achievements because making people envious is going to unnecessarily make things and life complicated for you. So which on is it, should we stay low to avoid becoming the target of jealousy, or be the best and confront every envious person one who is trying to test you and see how tough and untouchable you are ?

[@moenibus]

None of the above. Give zero importance to what others say or do. Only act if their actions affect you directly.

[@Dzillarable]

robert greene has nothing on his resume. his desire for power has eaten him from the inside out, you can see it by his warped appearance.

[@JerseySlayer]

Humility and confidence in the same person. Love Jocko, love JBP too

[@jreese46]

I think I understand what Jocko is saying about having written books earlier. Without those, you speak to someone like Jordan Peterson and then say "I came to many of the same conclusions," and everybody thinks "yeahhh, suuuure." Jocko is saying luckily for him, because he can establish that he came to those same conclusions, through those books.

[@ScooterMacDougal]

I'm not an ambitious guy but love seeing guys like you thriving and succeeding. Awesome world we live in. Keep it up

[@bajamicah]

Bro the production value and look for your podcast videos is absolutely awesome. I love the lighting, color grading and overall quality of these videos man, well done. One of the best looking podcasts ive come across

[@janvyachaslav5903]

Jocko always the man to look up to/out for!

[@0xggbrnr]

"If there's someone stealing things, can you let me know?" - Jocko was in the mood to kick ass and take names lol

[@zincfinger3817]

I know the feeling. By listening to Jordon I feel both informed of new things but also experience some validation for my own conclusions of the past.

[@Jerzius]

It's really great seeing you grow as an interviewer and seeing the guests feel comfortable. I really enjoy your content, looking forward to every post!

[@JamesHartnell]

Asking decent questions and not fluff significantly helps.

[@Dustomatic]

These aren’t just two very different people in very different fields, it’s two people who both have life-long dedication to bettering themselves. Not just anyone will come to these (or any) conclusions on their own doing what they do.

[@FalloutBreakbeat]

Jocko is a frikkin beast ... and so is Jordan Peterson.

[@francoisewhite2541]

Yes, different breed same mode

[@EriktheRaids82D]

That is extremely beastist of you.... Are you sure they're comfortable with you referring to them as a beast? Sounds pretty violent to me.

[@TheReaper569]

@@EriktheRaids82D They woudnt care. They are not as weak as you.

[@EriktheRaids82D]

@@TheReaper569 Your sarcasm detector has failed you catastrophically

[@TheReaper569]

@@EriktheRaids82D Or you made a bad irony. or that they have become indistinguishable from irony has become reality. Lots of other reasons.

[@bricehatcher8391]

JP and Jocko give real good advice. But Ben Finegolds impacted my life with his simple advice, "trying is the first step to failure.". This I've never tried anything and therefore never failed. I have an amazing life.

[@bswihart1]

Watching people half ass work for years while busting my ass has always bothered me, being self employed is the best decision I've ever made.

[@rasserfrasser]

This episode surprisingly taught me how important it is to take care of your achilles. I am not active enough and have over the past 6 months gotten really cemented calf tightness. Time to take this thing seriously and get into a stretching/walking regimen. Thanks, Chris. I hope your physical health is steady on.

[@tbobtbob330]

"The price of being a prick has fallen to zero." Sounds like the same point Mike Tyson made with that guy on a plane - lol.

[@layotheleprechaun]

When the camera zooms in Jocko looks like Thanos

[@rrmackay]

My son and I shared Jocko before JP came along, we have both benefited from the world view of these earnest men.

[@mrcom4359]

It is nice when common sense and scientific research correlate like that.

[@Matt-mk8ph]

Peterson and Jocko find such massive audiences in the West because parenthood, more specifically fatherhood, is in a state of utter disrepair. A lot of it is just common sense that was never communicated to young men during their formative years. What they are saying is powerful and resounding, but it's hardly surprising for anyone with parents who had an active role in their upbringing.

[@chuckthecontractor]

Agreed. Also, so much of people’s experience is happening in video games, tv, and social media. This leaves out real life experience that teaches you these deep truths.

[@apebass2215]

I'd argue motherhood is an equally bad state as fatherhood, just look at the birthrates. Only one sex is being referred to in terms like 'birthing person'.

[@sethbelanger8460]

I can’t wait for the whole episode

[@jasonzacharias2150]

Thank you guys for making videos and your dedication and service to our country. Your advice is from a more masculine perspective than Jordan's in my opinion, incredibly valuable for the lost Joe's out there. God bless, keep, and protect you guys on your journey...peace

[@riverstun]

Loving your enemy is a "hard thing". Hating is easy,

[@powers6253]

Jocko: If there's someone stealing things, can you let me know? I had to smile at the thought of him confronting a thief.

[@MotoTrist]

Same hahaha

[@gary8032]

Mr W is a man worth listening to.

[@dirtydog2569]

I ruptured my Achilles doing step ups at the gym. It didn’t really hurt when it happened but he healing hurt like hell. I gained weight from lack of activity but once I was able walk with the boot I got an exercise bike and cycled like mad. Then once the boot was off I walked a lot before I had to back to work. I was back to work in 4 months because I had to but the first week was torcher. I walk around 5 or 6 km a day at work. The first few days by lunch time I was limping and struggling to make it to the end of the day. By Friday I was making it to end without limping. My calve is till not the same. I don’t recommend rupturing your Achilles.

[@UnblockMind]

The lesson here is to be patient my friend. Heal then work up to your potential again.

[@dirtydog2569]

@@UnblockMind All that happened 6 years ago and my left calve muscle is still smaller than my right one. I had to get back to work because medical unemployment insurance was going to be cut off. At first they were only going allow me 12 weeks to recover. If you have all the time in the world to recover do so.

[@treebrother]

Time tested truths. That that comes without struggle is complimentary. The most meaningful things in life come from facing your antagonist.

[@TheD33dz]

"If they're stealing things would you let me know?" Sounds like a man who needs his daily dose of action!

[@gregj399]

The beauty of Truth is that whatever direction you look at it, it's always the Truth.

[@zepho100]

It’s a crazy time we live in where the truth seems so enlightening. Jordan is a great teacher of history too, highlighting the failings of the past and them being repeated or worse. We can only blame the politicians for this who have divided, caused discourse and prostituted themselves for wall street to clean out the pockets of the middle and lower class.

[@putitback4789]

The left

[@InvincibleExtremes]

I love these little previews

[@crane550]

Chris- this easily more informative and beneficial than any single piece of content I have ever consumed from the MSM. Please, keep up conversations like this. America needs them. "Why are people drawn to advice telling them to do hard things." The MSM will never do this. If you continue to do this, people will be drawn to you. I really want to see you grow, brother. Thank you.

[@seanbeebe8095]

The difference is not just realizing, but being able to back it up. Academic proof is extremely difficult and it helps others trust the process.

[@wyron1160]

Awesome, can't wait to listen and WATCH this intellectual and gorgeously-filmed episode. Keep it up Mr Chris, this is going to be a masterpiece.

[@majortwang2396]

"The problem with Twitter is that the price of being a prick has fallen to zero" Fuck me - how accurate is this.

[@mahirhaque1801]

Marcus Aurelius... he was the first to put into writing.

[@isaiahd5396]

Marcus got his inspiration from stoics and philosophers way before him

[@user-vc5rp7nf8f]

Chris: (10 min dialogue) Jocko: "i agree"

[@joelpierce3940]

Jocko, is more like the Professors I had in 1971. I couldn’t stand going to College today. My professors taught me how to think, not what to think.

[@johnpaquin366]

Two men who I look upto... two amazing people... Jacko"if someone's stealing something would you let me know"... you're an awesome man... stay gold

[@paulpaul93]

Jordan Peterson is probably the cleverest person I know of.

[@Purwapada]

then you need to look up Nagarjuna, Nietzsche, Jung, Zhuangzi etc

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

@@Purwapada also slavoj zizek

[@Purwapada]

@@jhinthevirtuoso4886 maybe, he seems clever, but I'm not into Marxism at all lol. And certainly not in the same league as the guysbi mentioned. No offence. Although I do like zizek lol

[@m.a.118]

@@jhinthevirtuoso4886 *sniff* Bold of you to bring up Zizek on a primarily right-wing thread. *sniff*

[@joryiansmith]

If it's easy, everyone will do it. If it's hard, only the passionate will do it and persevere.

[@elisabeth4342]

Jocko is the one who said, "I have alopecia so I can make fun of a woman with alopecia. I think it's funny! Any woman who is offended by jokes about it is weak and insecure." But then a few minutes later in the same video he said, "If that was my wife he was making fun of I'd hit him." This was the morning after the Oscars slap. I unsubscribed to his podcast after that. That was unexpectedly mean of someone with his level of intelligence, wisdom and empathy.

[@SuperSpecies]

Imagine people caring that you unsubscribed.

[@elisabeth4342]

@@SuperSpecies If they have morals they would. I also stopped listening to his podcast, which was unfortunate because he had some highly inspirational and courageous people on there that I had absolutely admired. There are other military leaders though that have good podcasts. He's no leader. A true leader doesn't mock people in that way, openly laugh about it in his video and then edit it out. That's no leader.

[@SuperSpecies]

@@elisabeth4342 courageous people don't make themselves out to be victims and take pleasure in telling the world how they are offended.

[@elisabeth4342]

@@SuperSpecies And decent people don't say such ridiculous things. Are you aware, and were THE podcasters aware, that a 12 yo girl with alopecia committed suicide because she was so depressed over her circumstance AND she was being bullied in school for it?? This was around the time of the Oscars. Grown adults should know better. How come the Oscars slap over this got global recognition but this young lady's tragic suicide got practically nothing? Not news worthy enough for the producer ands writers of the Oscars, huh?

[@Blujonny11]

The reason you have discipline is because when all your future options in life are a challenge, the chances of seeing them as 'realistic' to attain increases tenfold. Otherwise you'd be stuck in the same redundant patterns in life.

[@DanielTyson1]

From this clip it didn’t look like Jocko was interested in answering some of these questions in depth

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

Yeah something about this interview just felt really awkward but I can't put my finger on it

[@IcedCub]

The questions he didn't answer in any depth were shit questions

[@zknarc]

I've seen him do this before especially with Lex Fridman

[@Dzillarable]

@@charliecharliewhiskey9403 both are competing from dominance whilst trying to have a civil discussion.

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

@@Dzillarable That's it! You're right, that's what felt off haha

[@mydailypolitics8765]

These ideas were not invented by anybody. We all bump into them in life through our experiences, wisdom is always before us, it’s up to us to shape them up and inspire ourselves in a unique way and translate this wisdom into words of action to inspire others, Jocko and JP got their own unique talent.

[@inconnu4961]

We used to, anyway! The political-governmental machine is intent on turning everything that previously held society together, up on its head!

[@rohanremi]

Can you go and see if there's someone stealing things outside? Lol, did not expect that 😂

[@HalcyonDaze149]

Imagine stealing, and then being caught by Jocko 😂

[@ChrisWillx]

Honestly - sheer joy in Jocko’s eyes at the prospect of finding a thief

[@HalcyonDaze149]

@@ChrisWillx “why do I hear boss music?”

[@charlievegas8497]

And because you lived 2 different lives you're able to explain it differently. Certain people need to hear it differently or say they hear it from one of you first.. hearing it from the other would just be confirmation that there is truth and facts behind what you guys are teaching and that you're not just spouting crap out your butts just to have something inspiring to say. I very much appreciate both approaches

[@jonoppermann992]

Jocko: “if someone is stealing stuff could you please let me know?” My brain: “someone’s gonna get f*** up” My brain 3 sec later: “someone could learn a huge lesson getting schooled by a healthy conversation from Jocko, about not to steal”

[@islaadele1212]

Pleased to have found this channel. Intelligent, measured, courteous chat. Thanks!

[@Ashy_Larry06]

Woohoo got the first comment, love your work Chris Williamson keep it up. Jocko is a beast.

[@willmooser8567]

Is this the new equivalent of writing in fresh cement?

[@cristinalacoste2062]

It takes hard work to improve skills. Good skills build confidence. Confidence gives you options. If you want a better life it all starts with hard work. Dr. Peterson's 12 Rules is a roadmap for anyone young or not that feels like they're not reaching their potential.

[@Rustyplatesoo7]

GOOD