Here's Why I Bought Toyota Camry (and NOT a Honda Accord)

[@nealwhite1474]

"Life's too short to drive boring cars!!!!!!!" - picks a Toyota Camry. All jokes aside, Camry's are great daily drivers. I own Honda/Acura's with no issues other than regular maintenance. Been a Honda owner for over 20 years. Love both Honda and Toyota though.

[@ECPP]

They go forever on minimal cost

[@vulcanman64]

@@ECPP I had the Camry xle v6 and the engine has over 300 hp. It’s a rocket.

[@wink2154]

Best thing about a yota is it doesn't leak as often and ofc I wouldn't have to disassemble the whole damn car to change a bulb; but, it doesn't quite feel like a honda.

[@mmahtnart8986]

He's a KZbinr, he has tons of money. He said this was a daily driver. I assume his "Lifes too short cars" are in the garage. Comprende?

[@dfhhtyu3434]

Hondas are good but Acura has more problems

[@johnsradios484]

I just brought the new Honda Accord EX 2023 at MSRP 31,160. The fact that I’m 6’4”” and felt my comfortable in the Honda. Both Honda and Toyota are great.

[@ECPP]

Lots of room indeed. Not all cars have that.

[@Brararaf101]

If that was new camry no way i love Honda interior comfort but camry deff better long term with 1.5 cvt no go.

[@JayakrishnanH007]

Hey John , I'm looking to get an Accord 2021 or 2022 but I'm like 6ft tall and was confused whether I should go for a CRV just for comfort in long drives but I'm an Accord lover. Please give me some insights

[@johnsradios484]

@@JayakrishnanH007try them both! I’m ok with the sedan room size wise.

[@tyyonglor3050]

I like Toyota Camry because it has 8 speed auto transmssion instead of CVT.

[@ECPP]

Excellent

[@jack8356]

Same

[@rorycalhoun1126]

Way better than CVT's

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

The Camry has more powerful engines as well. Toyota uses port and direct injection. The Accord uses direct only which may cause carbon buildup.

[@dobuto23]

Did he misspeak when he said his Camry has a CVT transmission or did I hear it wrong? I replayed that part 5 times and keep hearing him say his Camry is CVT.

[@shivampatel5802]

Owner a 2002 Honda accord for 16 years 200 k miles , very minimal maintenance . That v6 was still the best engine I have had over all .

[@zygi22]

My dad has a 2000 accord 2.4 with a 100k on the odometer, mostly city driving. It obviously has a few issues here and there but it’s served him well for many years.

[@michaelsuzio4268]

I plow through cars every 3/4 years and put thousands of miles on cars every Month doing gig apps or delivering pizza for the last 15 years

[@thaydathroeun8678]

I miss that car had one too. Had her up to 135 mph

[@shivampatel5802]

@@thaydathroeun8678 I took it to 140 it was sweet , I fell for the matrix and bought a new car. No I regret it .

[@superbird24]

The hose clamp failures on other brands is something no one ever talks about and it says a whole lot about the manufacturer if they can’t get something like that right.

[@stephendibari5010]

YES, Toyota/Lexus uses the type shown in this video, they expand with pressure and don't fail like the slotted banded ones with a screw.

[@drewzkee3y3_of_horus_fpv57]

LE is the base model here in the states. I have a se and I love it. Proud of this car.

[@JasPlun]

I have an SE as well for my wife we wish we had gotten the LE because it is much quieter on the road the SE with its sport tuned suspension is very loud with the road noise.

[@Barrie562]

Thanks for the review. I just bought the same car, on order, in Mica Grey. Also did my own research on other models and this one won. Can't hardly wait for its delivery.

[@ECPP]

Great cars for sure.

[@billybobbob3003]

@@ECPP lol my mom had a 2002 and 2008 camry they were probley less reliable than her 2012 chevy malibu lol which now has 196,000 miles on it.

[@Snugs_TTV]

One thing to mention (Honda employee here) Toyotas tend to make up that base MSRP with non negotiable accessories vs Honda that has a set trim level and all the options that come on that trim level are set. So by the time you have comparable features you actually end up at about the same price. Just a small mention. When it comes down to functionality and styling it will vary driver to driver. Just depends on preference between these two cars to a degree. Both are excellent cars.

[@gous5649]

Hey Mark, great video! I was in the same boat when I purchased my '21 Camry SE (Non-AWD). I was cross shopping the accord and the camry just did more things 'right' for what I wanted. Non CVT, mechanical gear shift and not electronic, mine came w turn key ignition which I prefer to push button, 2.5 cl4 cylinder larger engine than accords 1.5 turbo. Less stress and strain and doesn't work as hard especially with passengers. Love how toyota went bigger displacement 4cyl and just kept it naturally aspirated. Purchase price was also lower. Great on fuel, amazing handling and adequate tech made it the winner kn my books. (Although I do think the accord looks very nice and sporty). Lol

[@ECPP]

I totally agree the larger 4 cyl just makes up the gap on power and keeps it more dependable. Great approach

[@Giardintek]

As a former Camry owner, I have to agree with most of the things you stated above Mark. Never had a more reliable vehicle in my life, except for my Corolla, Haha :) However You do have the option of getting a naturally aspired engine in a Honda too, I currently drive a Honda Accord Touring with a 2.4 L, Na Aspired engine and no major issues. Compared to my Camry it is more fun, way more. Road handling manners in the Honda is superb, Stability, low end torque, Seat comfort, roominess, safety, infotainment Sys, All there for your disposal. Have you ever driven the 2.0T Engine Accord? I have and it's got around 250 BHP. The new 2023 Accord looks way better too. I am not a big fan of the Camry's front bumper with all those fake vents. For me purely the enjoyment of driving is paramount and maybe not the new ones, but my Camry was the most boring car I ever owned.

[@R281]

My Camry is extremely boring, like myself lol

[@michaelcrockette8694]

my Camry also left my mechanic bored.(traded in 4 a Lexus and he’s still bored).

[@S_Shix]

I had 2017 camry before, it’s boring car, my Honda Odyssey is better performance than the camry, even it’s a minivan.

[@issavibez394]

Toyota is still more reliable

[@issavibez394]

Boring Hondas and wait until their trannys act up lol 😆 😂 🤣 I'd rather have lexus

[@obxmay]

9th Gen 2.4L 6MT Accord owner here. Looking to replace it in a few years and I just don't think I can go with the 11th gen Accord for the reasons you stated. Not a fan ~AT ALL~ of CVTs and turbo, GDI engines. I think the days of a 300K mile+ Honda engine are behind us. Camry hits home with a conventional auto and a NA GDI engine with intake valve injector rinse tech. Winning combo for my money and future cross country road trips.

[@captainjack6890]

Too bad. You are doing yourself a disservice by ruling out the 10th Gen 2.0T Accord. Best car in its class by a mile. And if you search KZbin there are a plenty 1.5T Hondas with the CVT that has gone over 300k miles

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Listen bro my 2007 accord v6 has 175k miles and doesnt burn oil its really feels like its built to go 30 years if you take care of it. I think honda needs to become turbo phobic and compete with toyota with better 4 cylinders and v6s in better feeling cars. Theyve been doing small displacement turbos so long with cvts and when my 2007 accord has a v6 thats built to last and an automatic trans for 6k its hard to justify prices like 35k for a v6 camry and honda doesnt even have any engine configuration competing. Honda feels better to drive but my v6 hinda feels good to drive too. Toyota can putnthe v6 in the base LE model snd honda doesnt wven have a v6 to put in any models...

[@jclar7210]

I love my 2017 Honda Accord, no issues, great mileage, speed when I need it, I'm happy! It's my 3rd Honda, non- turbo

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Mine is ten years older than yours and is a great car. I enjoy how it doesnt beep at me or flash lights every time someone is in my blind spot. I like how it doesnt vibrate me

[@jclar7210]

​@TheAnnoyingBoss That's great, I had a 2005 Accord coup 2.4 liter, had it for 12 years, still drove like new at 170k miles, before that I had a 2002 civic for 5 years, very speedy car, loved it too!

[@lionking4035]

Honda stopped being cool after 2017

[@jclar7210]

@lionking4035 I completely agree especially the Accords. Not sure what is the point of buying an accord after 2017, the Civics are almost the same size and you can still buy a 2.0 liter non turbo Civic sport

[@gerardhesse6959]

Have a 16:Accord with the 2.4 naturally aspirated. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned. Had 3 previous Camry’s too. Driving dynamics and overall usability surpasses the Camry across the board.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@sammyt3514]

That naturally aspirated engine is the one to get; unfortunately Honda has been turbocharging most of its 4-cylinder engines and the result of that is inferior long term reliability compared to their bulletproof non-turbo engines.

[@cnovasalmanhussain2348]

Accord's four Cylinder 2.4 Vti-L engine from 2007 to 2017 line up is the best 4 cylinder engine I have come across to date highly fuel efficient and Powerful as a V6...

[@gerardhesse6959]

@@cnovasalmanhussain2348 Agree. Turbos are much less reliable than the Regular engines.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Honda does steering better. They feel really really good to drive. Just wish honda would lean more into natrually aspirated 4 cylinders and 6 cylinders again like toyota. Once you start throwing on hybrid turbo small displacement yadda yadda, it will only cost more and more of a fortune to keep going and ultimately the longer they can stay out of the junkyard the better. No replacement for displacement. Why turbo when you shoulda known from the beggining you wanted more power and just gone with a little larger cylinder and kept tons of the reliability and simplicity that will help us keep these things going longer.

[@malcolmar]

Congrats! I rented a Camry when my regular car was in the shop and I was so impressed with that car. It had a great inside room a huge trunk, a sporty drive and I too love the look of it. If Toyota made a Camry TRD with a 6-speed manual mated to that smooth-running V6 I would have to find a way to get one.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

I hope they make v6 an option on LE. Come on man, we gotta get this affordbale dumb reliable v6 game up. Tbe 4 bangers are good you can get NA 2 liter and turbo engines in sedans but its hard to get a v6 in a base model.

[@mrmm7322]

Congratulations for your Toyota Camry they are great cars I own a 2018 camry xse awd tow ton colder pearl white and black top roof I had nothing done to the car amazing quality just oil change almost six years of ownership and no issues Toyota is a reliable reliable product

[@sammyt3514]

6:15 The auto is a regular 8-speed, not a CVT.

[@EchoSigma6]

You really can’t go wrong with Honda, Mazda, or Toyota. I was hoping for Hyundai and Kia to improve their quality but based on what I’ve read, that does not appear to be happening.

[@ECPP]

exactly

[@davidefland1985]

Im on my 4th Hyundai sonata they get better with every new model. Mines a turbo and it does good on gas. 10 year 100k warranty on drive train.

[@dancarlton7973]

The Korean imports in my area are getting stolen by a group of thugs.

[@MeXiCoDeOrO]

I had very very bad experience with two Mazda, so I wouldn't include it. I currently have a Honda and a Toyota and it's crazy how this machines just keep going and don't ask for anything than the regular mantinance.

[@EchoSigma6]

@@MeXiCoDeOrO Was your Mazda ownership during their time with Ford?

[@cnovasalmanhussain2348]

Accord's four Cylinder 2.4 Vti-L engine from 2007 to 2017 line up is the best 4 cylinder engine I have come across to date highly fuel efficient and Powerful as a V6...

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

V6 smoother. Also better looking.

[@Baasicstuff]

I have a focus st it’s a freaking 🚀 23mpg , 120k miles and runs like a clock. German engine and transmission. I got lucky 🍀 oh, and I just picked up a Toyota grand highlander. Very happy with it not a hybrid version.

[@ECPP]

Very nice!

[@Blue-moon12]

I had a 2017 Accord Coupe 3.5 V6 Touring. Loved it and the J35 sounds beautiful

[@ECPP]

Good choice!

[@landers3700]

Just purchased an “In Transit” 2024 Toyota Camry AWD XLE Black on Black Leather…Can’t wait til she gets here.

[@ECPP]

Wow sounds like a lovely spec

[@laurat1129]

TCCN is a Toyota MT, ofc, but he had similar things to say about his own Camry. (He, too, has had MB.) "Life's too short to drive boring cars", also too short to be spent dealing w/car problems at the dealer service center. You can have the fun ones, sure, but no one can deny the Camry's a reliable backup or daily for the family. There's a reason most Ubers, taxis, etc. are Toyota or Honda, and if you get the drivers talking, they'll tell you how much they love them. This is when "boring" ie. no drama, is good.

[@ariesmight6978]

As a rideshare and food delivery driver I agree, safty, reliability and economy is everything.

[@laurat1129]

@@ariesmight6978 My family has been getting home newspaper delivery for decades. One brutal winter, I worried about how our carrier was faring as I imagined him in an old SUV. Then I woke up very early one morning when it was still dark, only to see him arrive in a fairly new RAV4, and I wasn't so worried anymore. But I was a bit envious!😂

[@mr.foxwiz1653]

What does TCCN mean?

[@ariesmight6978]

@@mr.foxwiz1653 To lazy to Google search.

[@laurat1129]

@@mr.foxwiz1653 The Car Care Nut, another channel here on YT.

[@EatLeadPal]

I owned a 2003 Honda Accord and just bought a 2024 Toyota Camry for the same reasons you mentioned. I test drove both and liked the Accord more but the rating for the Accord in Consumer Reports was well below that of the Camry. I saw an article of the top 10 cars to buy in 2024 and 7 of the 10 were Toyotas including the Camry. The other thing was the Honda dealer refused to negotiate the sticker price and Toyota gave me $5000 off the sticker price with NO trade in. Much better deal.

[@sophaman9193]

I bought a used 2018 camry SE i love to drive handle well on the road very comfortable easy to drive too and very handsome design but please compare the sell in the USA camry sold 295 000 units and the accord sold only 153 000 units thanks for sharing your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing, cheers from Edmonton

[@groosbro1]

Good choice! As daily beater it's hard to beat a Toyota.

[@ECPP]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Force_Wielder]

I have own a 2020 Camry SE for 2 years now and its a great car. But I've been wondering whether I should have gotten a RAV4 thinking that it would be better for a tall person to get in and out.

[@gecko2000405]

I think the Camry has port injection as well, so no worry about intake valve carbon build up.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Yeah but its sorta a lie because i think toyota shoulda gave up on that spot and stuck with only port injection and got rid of direct injection so you have freaking half the injectors bruh... talk about expensive. If you had less injectors to buy from the factory this thing would be more efficient on the wallet. Is the .25 mpg worth it? Unless there was a way to reliably do port and direct injection with the same injector. Injectors these days seem to be pretty reliable. They just go and go and go but still if you do end up needing new ones in 30 years its nice if there is 4 and not 8.

[@coltonbriggs71]

The only I admire is YOU U can provide a review of that Camry after enduring a long stretch of below zero temperatures

[@stephendibari5010]

Toyota/Lexus uses the hose clamp type shown in this video, they expand with pressure and don't fail like the slotted banded ones with a screw. I'm happy my 2002 Lexus ES300 which has the super reliable 1MZ 3.0L V6, so quiet and more than enough power. 174k miles and doesn't burn any oil between 5k synthetic oil changes (Pennzoil, full synthetic high mileage). These Turbo 4 cylinders will most likely have long term reliability issues. Great choice on the Camry, but Toyota not offering a V6 anymore is a huge mistake

[@billsheehy1]

I have a 2006 Lexus ES 330. I’ve never had one problem with that car. I think they were built better back than they are now and they certainly look better. My wife has an Avalon 2002 180,000 miles. Nothing goes wrong with that car as well in her idiots son has a BMW 330. Nothing is always breaking down third turbo charger on it as we speak.

[@stephendibari5010]

@@billsheehy1 2002 through 2006 4th generation ES 300 are the highest quality Lexus has ever built along with the LS early gens. There is one on KZbin same year as mine which had 590,000 highway miles on it with original engine and transmission. This was posted about three years ago. Best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve been driving over 40 years.

[@GarryBurgess]

I bought the Toyota Rav4 XLE Hybrid. The eCVT in the hybrid is bulletproof with no belt and nothing like a CVT transmission except for the name. Toyota has 26 years of experience with the hybrid, so they have it buttery smooth right now, and I can't really tell when the engine is off or on except if I look on the dash. There's no starter or alternator to wear out, and the hydraulic brakes last twice as long because most of the time you are using the regenerative braking. the high voltage cable was corroding in the 2019-2022 models, so I bought the 7 year warranty, since Toyota Canada didn't extend the warranty against this to the 2023 models. It's a $7000 repair, and even has the name "cablegate".

[@VICNYSE845]

2020 2.0 Accord w/63k and zero issues to date. Still very fun to drive.

[@taiwoidowu2854]

You get around man.

[@BroBob1254]

Just bought a 2023 Camry SE Night shade 2.5 liter! Upgrading from a 2000 Camry that still runs great! This new car has so many features compared to the 2000 Camry, WOW!

[@ECPP]

Great choice and super reliable

[@gualbertomarmolejo7601]

Consumer Reports placing BMW third?..over Honda and Mazda? SMH

[@comeconcon569]

I was just talking to a Honda owner who drives a CR-V, the oldest model with over 250,000 miles on the odometer. he said he only changes the oil and does some minor repair.

[@Steve_in_NJ]

I just found your video and wow! Preaching to the choir!!! Seriously, we have a 2020 Accord Touring (2.0 turbo, being discontinued) that is coming off lease in May. We first checked out the 2023 Accord (no Touring models available until June). Sat in a Sport Hybrid model (one level below our Touring), and wow, smaller space in the front driver's seat than the 2020 version? WTF? Turns out, the upgraded Accords are now Hybrids. The battery packs are located under floorboard behind the front seats. So, the seat tracks were reduced, making legroom for the 6'3" driver very cramped. Then we asked about trade in value for our 2020 Touring (remember, no more 2.0 liter turbo engines). Got a figure and left dealership. Heading to our local Toyota dealership and sat in the XLE Camry (again, 2023, comparing XLE to Touring). What a difference. Camry has more legroom for driver. Plus, we can get an AWD (not available in Accords). We factory ordered a 2023 Camry XLE AWD (no sunroof) to replace our 2020 Accord. Oh, and the Toyota dealership also has an out-of-state Honda dealership, so they can take care of our lease (no costs to turn in a Honda), PLUS they are offering $2000 MORE for our 2020 Accord over the Honda Dealership! No more Honda, now we're Camry "to be" owners. Oh, and my 2022 Hyundai is a great little SUV (Kona Limited), but the infotainment is worse after a software update.

[@srhwarfield]

Great video I bought almost the same exact vehicle except my car has 2 wheel drive. 4WD or AWD is not really necessary in Dallas. Same color and wheels. My only complaint is the telephone numbers stowed in Home Screen somehow keeps getting deleted.

[@jamescps8799]

If I were in USA now, I would definitely buy a CAMRY so that I can feel secure and confident to drive around highways and country roads and interstate long distance travelling.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

I like accord for long distance because you go higher speeds and it feels really a lot better in the wide sweeping bank turns etc.

[@carlasemancik]

I have a 2024 se. bought off the lot. Cold weather package. I didn’t get push to start they only had keyed ignition Camrys. Its weird

[@jessewynne8193]

As a owner of many models in both Honda and Toyota I keep my cars for long periods Every Honda I’ve owned -2013 fit/02 civic and 09 civic automatics were 4 cyl engines non turbo had transmission issues around 120-140k miles with drain and fills (never flushed) every 40k miles at most. Ended up having the D (drive) light flashing randomly and had internal wear. The best Honda I had was my 1985 accord 5 speed cable clutch manual reached 450k miles on original trans and motor and sold running! Each Toyota I’ve had- 2010 matrix- now 2008 Yaris-07 rav4 and 09 tocoma have passed 200k miles absolutely trouble free Except for maybe a valve cover gasket and alternators . Each were also automatic

[@commonsense5709]

I've also had many automatic Honda transmission problems from different Hondas. I refuse to buy any more Hondas with automatic transmissions ever and never buying any more Hybrid cars either. Had way better luck with Toyota brand regarding reliability.

[@DU30DU30]

Practical and wise choice you made sir! How's the awd system treating you as well as the fuel consumption?

[@philipjacob2314]

Accord generally has always driven nicer and sportier at the same time. Camry was generally for those who valued a soft and smooth ride. Recent accords have upscale interiors high quality interior that feel better than mainstream cars in class. Camry interiors have more going on with a busy design but it feels cheap on the inside. Camry feels less solid to the feel and drive. But Camry is less costly to run for maintenance than accord which should be maintained more rigidly. Both great cars but better depends one what you value most.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@kiss-lips69]

Camry is the number one best selling car , year after year, where the accord sometimes gets in the top 5 but usually gets bet by the civic 😅

[@philipjacob2314]

@@kiss-lips69 no doubt new camry buyers have max reliability and durability as their number one priority not on upscale interior and performance oriented ride/engineering. Accord is for a mid size buyer who is willing to sacrifice some reliability and durability for quality, engineering and a better driving experience over the standard options available in the cost. They still get a spacious interior and practicality but with a better driver’s experience.

[@kiss-lips69]

@EchoAccord details matter, but some people don't care about wasting money 😳❓️

[@TexasBig]

****As an OWNER of the Camry 2018 XSE (Manufactured in February) we did have Transmission failure. It took two and a half weeks to order and replace under warranty but they provided a newer year Highlander as Customer Service Car that was covered as well. It was VERY NICE to drive but not as economical and costs about a third more. Around 100,000 miles but as early as 50,000 depending on driving conditions hwy/city time(s) you can expect to replace the Electric Water Pump ($45), you will get a trouble code pop up and the car will quickly go to overheat. Immediately find a place on the side of the road, put on your hazards, pop the hood, wait till either tow truck arrives or watch the overfill drop down in about a minute or two then go again, you may only get a mile before overheating again, rinse and repeat. I would advise most to call a tow, it's not worth burning up the engine. I work on cars a little as a expensive hobby. On the, "Infotainment System" it's crap, there is no reason to have this garbage tarnishing the car and it's not like you can run out and grab another head unit like you use to be able to do. Somethings are better left alone. If you love your car, CHANGE YOUR OIL when you are supposed to! I hate seeing engine from oil starvation having to be replaced. I'm currently helping my wife's cousins husband to do an engine swap, to find out it has to have all gaskets and certain elements changed to validate the warranty in case it doesn't work out. Unless you just want to throw away $4k to $5k, change your oil. If you have GM's 3.6 that are prone to timing chain issues, GET RID OF IT! Even at a loss you'll be ahead. Back to the Camry, Even though it's a, "Sealed Transmission" CHANGE this FLUID. It's similar to changing the oil, but make sure the car is level, DO NOT do a FLUSH!

[@sherrikwhiteside6107]

Thanks for sharing your experience as an owner and mechanic. I desperately need a car. If you were currently in the market for a new car in the midsize segment, which would you go with, knowing what you know now? Unfortunately, none of these cars are as good as they used to be, but I have to get something asap.

[@TexasBig]

@@sherrikwhiteside6107 There are variables to every purchase. The Camry was planned for a long time to obtain in my wife's and I purchases. We bought a used Corolla having kids and budget to consider with the desire to make the most with what little we had. We still have that car today. It's just not driven. Our son is supposed to be driving but is not. It lacks the safety that we would prefer him to have. We've also owned a Hyundai Sonata, in which I maintained and drove properly for the design to prevent coking up the valves. An accident had taken the car, as well as our baby girl in her last year of high school. Most cars for rear passengers will not survive an accident in a 40 mph collision. They fail in that regard towards safety. My wife refuses to buy or be part of Hyundai. The vehicle(s) I consider are; Toyota Genesis Hyundai Kia Subaru Stay far away from CVT transmissions. I'm not a fan of Hybrids, just more to go wrong. If lack of money wasn't an issue, it would be a Bugatti, I love the engineering and challenges it brings to learn its maintenance. Uncertain as to insurance costs though. Aspects to all wheel driving dependant on budget would likely be on the new Camry or Subaru. With all due respect because I'm limited as to research in actual drive time and personal engagement, I would consult leading research materials such as Consumer Reports. Check them out, I have always suggested their data and agree with their findings. Consumer Reports- would be MY go to for the answer.

[@sherrikwhiteside6107]

@@TexasBig thanks for the detailed and well articulated response. It was definitely helpful, and I’m sorry you and your wife had to experience something so tragic. I couldn’t imagine.

[@vampiresquid]

If forced to choose...I'd buy a last-generation Accord with the 2.0L turbo engine. 5.4 sec 0-60.

[@ECPP]

Yes that’s the Accord to have in recent years fornsure

[@hoopty.]

I'd rather buy the 93 accord. Those things were tanks.

[@Firenmage433]

Striking looks too!

[@Imagenation08]

I'm a definite Camry lover; my 2010 is still a smooth and very reliable no-headache ride, and I love it so much for all the good memories it has given me. I plan to get a newer one once I get my money up - probably the SE upgrade model. Maybe I'll get an Accord someday, but for now, the exciting "boredom" of the Camry still has me hooked, lol.

[@ECPP]

They will literally run forever

[@commonsense5709]

I've owned my fair share of both Accords and Camrys and the Toyota will definitely outlast the Honda when it comes to automatic transmissions. The Honda has a very good probably of getting stolen too. Thieves desperately like to steal anything with Honda brand on them. I've personally had an Accord stolen parked outside my home and my 2005 Honda Odyssey van parked outside of a repair shop waiting in line for typical Honda automatic transmission rebuild and the thieves still stole it even though it was barely driveable due to it's failing transmission.

[@thatrallycarguy]

New watcher lifetime subscriber!!!! I have a 99 Civic SI and I would take that any day of the week over any new car!!!!💯💯💯

[@ECPP]

Thanks for the sub! And welcome to the channel.

[@wellingtonhui6060]

I would pay now just $1200 to $1500 more for the Accord Hybrid or the Camry Hybrid. They are saving gas and very reliable. Honda will have a naturally 2L non-turbo engine and zero transmission. It just has a clutch at 40 MPH to engage the engine. The E-CVT for Camry is also very good and a no brainer upgrade from the gas only version.

[@Jack-pd4ps]

I have the Camry Hybrid XLE and it does wonders! Also very smooth.

[@brentharrington9235]

Hybrid adds unnecessary complexity for marginal MPG gains. Going from high 30's MPG to high 40;s isn't worth the risk to me.

[@Jack-pd4ps]

@@brentharrington9235 Definitely understandable. Would you ever show up to the airport and get on an airline with a single engine?

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

​@@brentharrington9235 i agree. There is some trade offs though like usually they get rid of stuff like serpintine belts and the ecvt are not those trash band kinds but they are just gears. So in some aspects theyre actuually more reliable. Up until you need a battery or have to go into the engine too much... then it costs a fortune compared to s simple NA 4 banger or v6

[@SSSocials]

@@Jack-pd4psit is a car, not a plane. Big difference!😊

[@jeretso]

My priority is price and reliability. Both are reliable. Accord sticker price is a few thousand higher. Accords have bigger screens but I prefer buttons and don't watch movies in my car. Ventilated seats would be nice but at what price? Which dealership will give me a hard time with negotiations and markups? Time is money too.

[@ECPP]

They are great cars and might be worth it

[@allyance8846]

Accord 2.0T is the way to go for me. Better in performance while still being reliable and practical.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Reliable yes but not as reliable as my 2007 accord v6. Frankly I think theres a good chamce my 15 year old accord will still outlast it.

[@allyance8846]

@@TheAnnoyingBoss Yeah man, old is gold. I myself own an Accord CL7 (2003), built to last.

[@mickluke9228]

Yes I agree I have a 2003 cm6 Accord with the original automatic transmission still going strong, transmission fluid change every 50,000 km is very important. The car is 20 years old with over 240, 000 kilometres. It's still feels like I have over 240 horsepower under the bonnet. Great cheap car. The only problem I have had with the Accord is the solenoid on the starter motor. It still has the original alternator Touchwood

[@mickluke9228]

PS. No oil lakes from the transmission and engine, and no oil consumption at all

[@electronicsonsite3276]

Very interesting video. Can you do a video comparing the Corolla vs Civic ?

[@robertjohnson4401]

I prefer Hondas but for 2022, I would choose the Toyota. I don't like turbochargers as I want it to last 200,000 miles. My 2016 Accord is naturally aspirated. I will be switching to Toyota for my next car.

[@ECPP]

Turbos are great for the track but for long lasting dailies, not as much

[@sk-un5jq]

Hybrid!

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

​@@sk-un5jq i dont want to replace an expensive battery after 15 years. My 2007 accord v6 is naturally aspirated 250 hp and i mever have to worry about critical components like.turbos and batteries failing. Not having them is lots saved that can be out into better engine components stock, or changing a plastic peiece for a higher quality material. So when my 15 year old accord turns 30 i have less buttons to replace like im doing now on my wonderful 2007 v6 accord sedan

[@commonsense5709]

@@sk-un5jq I've owned 4 hybrid cars 3 Honda Civics and one Toyota Camry Hybrid and never again will I ever own another hybrid. Once the hybrid battery dies everything totally shuts off and the car becomes a real death trap of it quits right in the middle of a highway intersection especially at night. Not even the flashing hazards work or lights. Plus the $5000-$8500 replacement battery cost plus labor. The gas savings won't offset the replacement hybrid battery cost.

[@darbysuntrup1499]

I really like your presentations. Crisp and to the point. You come across loud and clear. Thanks

[@good104]

I have a 2021 Hyundai Sonata. I bought it after test driving other models in the same category. In the last 2+ years, no issues whatsoever. Camry has an ok interior. Accord has a better one. But, Sonata is the best looking. Sonata also comes with more standard safety features. It is a win!

[@mattstarr2674]

The Toyotas have such cheap interiors I can’t stand it. I tested driven a new Corolla and it was pretty pathetic

[@andershilmo1866]

Not sure about the 2021 accord. My older Accord with less than 75k is pretty decent But all Camrys I drive are more comfortable than the sonatas just my experience. I drive a lot and far distances, so that’s very important to me. I find the Sonatas have an uncomfortable back seat to. I travel with groups so that’s not as nice.

[@LL.inc009]

I owned many Hondas over the years. They were awesome, bulletproof vehicles. Until the Oil dilution issues on the 1.5 Turbo engines. Honda screwed up with this engine. The CVTs also suck. I no longer own any Hondas. They have lost their way in building simple, bulletproof vehicles.

[@ECPP]

I agree things have changed

[@johnl3230]

Have a 2016 Scion iM 6sp and I do have to say they make quality interiors these days, the plastics are definitely not as crappy as my old Chevy Cobalt. The cobalt treated me well for the 10 years I had it though

[@XHollisWood]

Great update and comparison Mark 🇨🇦✌️

[@ECPP]

Thanks 👍

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

I’m really, really excited about the next gen Camry. It looks so much better than any Camry before it. Only issue is that I gotta wait a year

[@ECPP]

Yes it’s a long wait for sure

[@rken3116]

Camry is the pinnacle of reliability, Great choice.

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@2k2albatross22]

If my 2002 Maxima ever dies I will either put a new motor in it or get this Camry. Good advice. Everytime I jump in a Camry Uber here in NY I ask the guys for the mileage. Usually the response is in the +150k-200k mile range. When I ask about repairs it is always tires, brakes and oil.

[@joyofautomobiles8056]

Great video! I was surprised that they went with a cvt for the Camry, my 2021 has an 8 speed automatic transmission. Personally I’m not a fan of it sometimes because when I get into 7th gear I feel hesitation sometimes when it goes into it. Also, has anyone noticed that it gives off a weird engine sound when parked idling? I feel it is due to the high pressure pump in the engine

[@emeyer6963]

That weird sound is the Direct Injection

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

Camry has a 8 speed no cvt ever the accord yes

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

And I have a 2018 Camry bd the engine is low the high pressure fuel pump low and direct nd port injection too

[@MadManDan-MMD]

Yes nasty engine sound idle and has a SLOW acceleration from a stop, also HARD shifting from a stop. Might take it back.

[@joeysantillo8977]

I'm looking at both for a daily. Leaning towards finding a used 2.0t with a manual. If i cant find one, next choice is a V6 camry. I'm expecting used prices to drop here in the US next month when student loan repayments start.

[@shaunkennedy174]

As a Honda service advisor, 2018-2022 Accords I actually do not recommend at all. First your fuel injectors will go out ($1300 repair) then your turbo ( $1600 repair) and finally your head gasket has a high chance of blowing between 70k-100k miles ($2400) If you buy a 2018-2022 accord PLEASE buy the extended warranty. We currently have 6 2018-2019’s waiting on head gaskets in the shop. These cars are actually pieces of shit, as much as I hate to say that. Civics are much more reliable.

[@natas12rm]

Is the 2024 civic sport hatchback ok? It’s the 2.0. I’m leasing it and hoping to buy it at the end. I’m worried about the cvt.

[@66cptsfmf-fapedres14]

You should make a youtube channel going undercover honda reviewer and what common issues are coming from a real honda advisor

[@david37376]

I have a 2010 Accord 4 cyl 2.4 vtec, 450,000 kms on salted roads for half the year in Canada. I have never had an unusual repair. I still have the original exhaust.

[@te7646]

I looked at both cars before going for the 2019 Camry XSEV6 in 19, both excellent cars, fun to drive and very reliable but few reasons why I chose one and not the other. V6 vs 2.0t engine, Better looks (personal opinion) even though the Accord is very nice looking, better stereo, panoramic roof, LED lights on everything, cheaper price, an offered deal by Toyota and the dealer while Honda almost never offers any deals on their cars, 8 speed tranny vs CVT and finally the horror stories of paint flaking and peeling off on Hondas while the car is still new!. The Honda 2.0t is slightly faster to 60 and handles better than the XSEV6 but anybody whose driven the Camry knows it has plenty of power and handle without having a harsh or bouncy driving experience.

[@maloney7461]

I agree. 2022 Honda is an ugly design to me. 2023 is a little improvement. The Camry looks way nicer than the Honda. I am a Honda fanboy. But I would hands down purchase the Camry over the Honda. I love the interior and the exterior of the Camry. Plus, its non turbo.

[@jcallen21]

​@@maloney7461 I'm exactly opposite. For me ,the 10thgen Accord is the best looking Honda ever made( excluding the NSX).

[@maloney7461]

@@jcallen21 I saw several in person the other day. It was bland to me, but nicer looking than the 2022. The Camry just looks cool inside and out to me. We still have our 1997 Honda Accord, 2009 Honda CRV and 2019 Honda Ridgeline.

[@taiwomarvellous9306]

@@maloney7461 lol you aren’t an Honda fan am very sure. How would you call that Honda front grille ugly 😂😂. And you see turbo has a problem when my luxury cars bands have been using it in their reliable vehicles since 2008. Honda aren’t no car they are machines. It’s faster with good handling. So it’s actually preference you aren’t no Honda fan.

[@taiwomarvellous9306]

Many*

[@brandonbarnette4013]

PTL. Why did Toyota go to CVT? Do theirs use a belt like the others? What is the reliability quotient? PTL

[@mmahtnart8986]

Sounds like you made a good/well educated purchase.

[@ECPP]

I really believe so

[@kevmarcol780]

The specs. show the Camry having an 8-speed ECT Transmission. Is this a CVT? I thought that's what you said it has an automatic CVT at time stamp 6:18. I've heard maintenance nightmares concerning the CVT transmissions, on your channel as well in a segment stating engines to steer clear of. Now the CVT's are ok?

[@MichaelM2K23]

8-speed, by definition, is not a CVT. I believe he was referring to the Honda’s CVT.

[@edgartorres1858]

My 1999 Corolla 4dr sdn CE still alive 392 000 miles .. need a new car

[@ECPP]

That’s a great run

[@Where2bub]

SE is the base model? do they no longer have the LE now?

[@ECPP]

You bet LE still exists and is the true base

[@johnmoore8599]

Turbo and CVT on the Accord versus a reliable aspirated engine and 8 speed transmission. Yeah, I can see your choice of the Camry. You went with the reliability.

[@taiwomarvellous9306]

Exactly ….. Honda engines with even their turbo are more reliable than the naturally aspirated Toyota engines. More faster, better handling. Honda’s give you interesting better features of things you can see but feel. Toyotas preys on your priorities in a car for an average person. Honda’s don’t make you feel average it makes you feel like not just classy but Dey added performance along side🔥🔥🔥.

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

@@taiwomarvellous9306🤣🤣 Toyota is way ahead in tech compare to Honda for years come on Honda using gm for their ev cars red flag right there and Acura can’t compare to Lexus

[@dfhhtyu3434]

@@andersonrodriguez8258 Honda and gm been partners for a long time, look the resemblance of a accord and Malibu from comparing from years 2011 accord very similar to a 2013 Chevy Malibu.

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

@@dfhhtyu3434 to bad gm is junk

[@dancarlton7973]

No issues with my CR-V's 1.5 turbo and CVT

[@jcallen21]

I went with the 2021 Honda Accord 2.0t 10 speed. For me the 10th gen Accord is the second best looking Honda ever made (#1 NSX). Only thing I didn't like was no AWD available

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Man its good but i want a war amongst naturally aspirated v6. I love how hondas drive but i like my old hondas v6 too much to gove it up for 4 banger hybrid or turbo etc.

[@zsb707]

Mark, the oxymoron creator: his new car (Camry) & his slogan ("life is too short to drive boring cars").

[@Imurge]

great review my brother but I'm still in love with my 2018 accord with the 2.0 turbo 6 SPEED MANUAL. if i could have one thing from the 2023 version into my 2018 will be the full screen cluster display, other than that there’s nothing else i would change about my car

[@pawelkilian3890]

2018 2.0 turbo automatic 106k no problems ❤it

[@Imurge]

@@pawelkilian3890 what a car huh ☺️ 🚗 ✨

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Every time honda makes a v6 its a banger

[@Thankyou_3]

Awesome video, you hit the nail on many points. Toyota Camry have consistently proven to be more reliable than Accord especially in the last two decades. In the late 80s and 90s, the Camry and Accord were neck to neck on quality and value but since late 90s the Camry led the way to be superior. I don’t know what it is, Hondas have lost their mojo and overpriced vehicles. Many of them have issues and rust is still a killer especially around the wheel wells and subframe.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

I think youre wrong on some stuff here man. For one camry was ugly as hell for a huge period in there man. And also, you can say toyota is more reliable but its also relative because in some ways it is and in others it isnt. Its also uglier on the inside. Honda made a good move going very basic front dash area. Toyota does all this swooshing and piano black and jts very odd. The honda feels better to drive.

[@commonsense5709]

Agreed. I've owned my fair share of both Hondas and Toyotas and the Hondas definitely feel cheaply made with very thin metal and hollowness compared to Toyota. I've had multiple Honda automatic transmissions fail Accord, Pilot and TWO Odessey vans had transmission problems and bought a used Prelude with automatic transmission that actually failed while driving it home while my Toyotas still kept going no issues like what my Hondas had plus my Accord and an Odessey even got stolen. That's for sure thieves sure are desperate to steal Hondas.

[@agapepz4111]

Why you didn’t get the well serviced bmw G30 540i. You get the reliability, high fuel economy and the majestic handling ?

[@thomashelm6931]

Excellent selection! Everyone needs a reliable horse in the stable, while the beast takes a break in the garage. Most definitely when faced with the weather there. And I have a bad feeling about 4 cylinder turbo vehicles, personally. And no ugly grill! Good choice!

[@ECPP]

Haha, indeed Thomas. How is your weekend? Yes up here, the reality a good reliable mode of transport is a must for the day to day grind. I will never be without the fun toys, but who wants to drive a Mclaren everyday? It just would not fee the same. So These are the types of cars that are easy to live with. Very similar to the 4Runner, just put gas in every once in a while a set of tires or oil change, but other than that......

[@thomashelm6931]

@@ECPP Great weekend so far, with no snow! In our minor league hockey team, The Thunderbirds, continues to do well going into the playoffs. Edmonton took it all last year, as you may remember. My son is the announcer in the local barn here. But I think that you guys will be very pleased with this Toyota. Even the appearance is pretty nice!

[@taiwomarvellous9306]

Lol… the crab front grille of the Honda 2018-2022 can never be beaten by any Toyota Camry it’s a very nice and classy looking car. We all know Honda are reliability and performance in one car. Toyota based on reliability. If you over rev Toyota’s daily with the same wey you rev and Honda you engine won’t make it through the year. Honda engines last forever regardless of the turbo but my advice is don’t go for a 1.5T go for a 2.0T of the Honda. It’s more reliable. If you don driver at high speed good you can pick Toyotas but high performance with reliable Honda is your best bet the handling is super amazing a lot and the cruise control is just brilliant.

[@gabriellejose0411]

​@@taiwomarvellous9306 lol😅 what a nice lie

[@olfactory_art]

How do you all deal with the bouncy pounce feel if the Camry suspension while driving? It makes me uncomfortable. Been a Honda/Acura owner for the last 20 years and never had that issue. Should I go back to Honda? Please help…

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Wait until honda gives us a 2.5L 4 cylinder and 3.5L v6 and competes eith camry fr fr snd starts driving these costs down when they cut deals to do stuff like use the same bolt in that one spot so the parts market is even broader.

[@mercuripietro6888]

i think the camry looks fantastik its one of the best looking car out there nothing comes close to it in looks

[@ECPP]

They do look great especially in the se and xse variants

[@peterjung4680]

6:17. The Camry does not have a "CVT". It is an 8-speed automatic transmission.

[@Blue-moon12]

Easy break ins? Toyota and Lexus are amongst the highest stolen in Ontario. I work in the investigation industry. But you cannot go wrong with that Camry. N/A engine too.

[@ECPP]

You are totally right and the big brother Lexus is also high on that list

[@jack8356]

Just throw a honda badge it and people will avoid it

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

You can’t steal a modern Toyota without the key.

[@Blue-moon12]

@B Yes, you can. Lexus also.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@Blue-moon12 I guess if you want to drag it on dollies with a tow truck, or strip down the parts.

[@g5magic]

I agree with you for this. Honda accord failed a big time cuz of turbo engine, it s not reliable. Turbo made engine too hot and had a short life. I think. 😢

[@ctgaming168]

Congrats, you made the perfect choice.

[@ECPP]

Thank you!

[@RB-je3yj]

My 2003 Accord 2.4L automatic transmission has 400k miles it's still running like a new car!

[@23ginger]

I owned a Camry before my accord and I like the Camry more. The accord handles better and has more pep in the older generations but the ride quality was much better in the Camry and the noise level was lower than the accord in the Camry.

[@jamessouthworth1699]

Working on a V6 in a front-wheel drive is always a nightmare. In a front-wheel drive vehicle I'll take the naturally aspirated 4-cylinder every time. I can also do without the infotainment, the electric water pump, electric power steering if it has it, the CVT, and the all-wheel drive. A lot of Toyotas are also using that dual fuel injection setup now which I would also avoid.

[@ECPP]

That is totally true

[@nickevans5296]

Had a 01 Toyota 4Runner with 250k and I had a 98 Honda accord with 300k. They are both fantastic and reliable brands. Basically just have to buy the one you personally think looks better.

[@superbird24]

Did your Camry come with Eco, Normal and Sport mode? I don't see the buttons below the shifter like they are on other Camry's in this generation.

[@bobriemersma]

My experience with 2 Toyota dealers was abysmal. My experience with Honda dealers runs from middling to good, but my Hondas have never needed all of the trips back to dealerships like Toyotas do.

[@richardlau2447]

My driver door window switch caught fire while driving. How’s that?

[@NordicSnowhammer]

I bought a 20 Camry LE AWD new. Got about 46,000 on it now. No problems. I love the fact I get 43MPG on the highway. I don't know why I get that cause the specs say I shouldn't. No completes though. Only buy yodas. 200,000 is common.

[@ECPP]

Sounds like a real win

[@NordicSnowhammer]

@@ECPP Until my wife drives it. 27mpg on the highway. I get that with her Highlander! Marriage is tough bro.

[@SUPASLY75]

I suddenly became freezing cold watching this vid😅

[@Blue-moon12]

Welcome to Alberta

[@ECPP]

It was minus 20 when I filmed

[@Blue-moon12]

@@ECPP Not bad then haha

[@emeyer6963]

@@ECPP 84 degrees in Florida today with the wind chill!Best of Luck with the Camry.I am in the market and these 2 are on the radar screen

[@penvon]

Hey Mark do you have winter tires on the Camry? Lots of snow in your part of the globe.

[@comeonman1100]

A couple years ago when I was comparing Toyota Rav4s and Honda CRVs I went with the Honda mainly because the Hondas had a few trims but Toyota had a few trims then on top of that various "packages" of features. This made it hard to find a RAV4 in a trim I wanted with both packages I wanted locally so I bought the CR-V.

[@RamoNYC]

In my household we own either Acura’s or Lexus’s. Obviously they’re luxury brands of both parent companies Honda and toyota. I’ve driven and owned acuras all my life. They’re more sportier and more aggressive/ sporty with their design vs Toyota products. I definitely appreciate Toyota products though. Their cars are super comfortable.. from their cabin, down to how they drive. It’s really up to the consumer at the end of they day. Do they prefer comfort or something that’s a little more fun to drive? Me personally i need something sporty so I always choose Hondas vs the other members of my family where they choose a more comfortable drive. To each their own. You can’t go wrong with either brand.

[@xp50player]

When a new Camry comes out, it's a non-event, like when a new Android phone comes out.

[@ECPP]

Haha, nice

[@Rockrewls]

We have a 2023 Camry Hybrid and a had a 2021 prior to that, aside from dust intrusion they are great, we drive a fair bit of gravel road.

[@ECPP]

True that can happen sadly

[@richardalolino4518]

I Just Love the Camry ❤❤❤..that’s the Bottom line!….

[@mattstarr2674]

How’s the Camry compare to a 2021 Chrysler 300s 3.6 I was looking at some Camrys but the interior styling and screen looks so cheap

[@terryboston3292]

Lets be totally honest the Camry has a more appealing exterior styling than the Accord, and usually always will, because even over the last 30 years or so, the Accord has not really changed that much in exterior styling.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Its changed a lot. Camry used to look like a kids piece of chewed bubble gum. Hsve you seen what prius used to look like?

[@rongendron8705]

My 2004 Toyota Camry, bought new, is still running great & hasn't had any major repairs! My biggest reason for not purchasing a Honda, instead, is their very inferior paint jobs! Over the years, I have seen older Honda's, having their entire car's body paint, fading badly, making the vehicle look shabby! All new cars should be required to have at least a 10 year 'bumper to bumper' warranty, including the paint job, against fading or chipping!

[@engatech1]

Most important is that the Camry has a spare tire and the Accord owners don't. Deal breaker for me.

[@ECPP]

Nice….it can be important

[@olfactory_art]

Very important fact

[@crushbandicoon]

My 2.0 Touring has a spare.

[@UcheRed]

I am big Toyota fan after doing crazy research I went with the 2021 honda because that car just got everything in them.