this is wild ....saying Mahomes is the reason they lost the Super Bowl is crazy ..like did u even watch it? and why would he have to win without Andy Reid? Brady was the GOAT before Tampa ...does one of these guys think LeBron is better than MJ? ..thats funny cuz MJ has more titles bit that the Brady argument
@stephenbruce91122 ай бұрын
Mahomes won offensive player of the year in 2018.
@tristingarcia57182 ай бұрын
Well if you want to break Brady’s career into 3 separate HOF careers (beginning, middle, and end) Mahomes has already beat Toms first HOF career because he’s thrown for more yards, has just as many SB wins, has more individual accolades in terms of regular season MVPs and SB MVPs, and has never not made it to the AFC conference championship game. So he’s well on pace to absolutely destroy Brady’s career if he were to play as long and he’ll catch all the passing yards in much less time
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
On pace is not DOING IT. He still has to accomplish those things; they are not set in stone. Mahomes has the potential, but people think it will just happen. I want to see it happen before we put him on the same playing field as Brady. If it happens, I will acknowledge it. I said plenty of times in this video how great Mahomes is. There's nothing wrong with being the second on an all-time list.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
Regardless thanks for watching and the comment
@tristingarcia57182 ай бұрын
@@ScaryHoursStudio I would argue he is “doing it” it’s not like he’s not accomplishing his potential. Outside of winning the SB every year (which isn’t possible and will never happen) he’s literally doing everything. He’s first in every category has the highest winning percentage and even with a “bad” supporting cast won back to back SBs and has a real chance of 3-peating. I agree he’s not the GOAT now but he’s well deserving of being in the conversation because we’ve never seen a player like this in the NFL before (including Brady)
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
@@tristingarcia5718 We never disregarded that in the video. We just highlighted the fact that during the era of him "doing it," Brady handed him a playoff loss and a Super Bowl loss. I have never once discredited that Mahomes is great; it just feels like people have already forgotten how iconic of a career Brady had.
@tristingarcia57182 ай бұрын
@@ScaryHoursStudio I understand your point for sure. Just something that I feel that gets overlooked is Mahomes was in his first 3 years of starting when Brady beat him, and in that AFC Championship game Mahomes had the lead at the end of the game and Brady lucked out of a game dealing INT and was fortunate to get the ball first in OT. So I would argue Mahomes actually outplayed Brady that game. The SB loss of course Mahomes’ entire Oline was hurt and he was hitting receivers in the literal facemask and they were dropping the passes while he was parallel to the ground. So idk I feel like there needs to be context around those games as opposed to “Brady beat him head to head therefore…”. You know?
@k.c.elemenopy23932 ай бұрын
Hot garbage takes.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
Quite literally not one "take" was said we read the facts and all these comments are ifs and buts of why Mahomes is the best, Brady IS the best.
@shotinthedark53872 ай бұрын
Wow the Brady fan boys coming out swinging. Hahaha you guys are so silly. What you’re talking about is total career stats. Mahomes doesn’t need to reach any of Brady’s career stats to be the goat. We all have eyes we all see how he plays, how he makes his teammates better. Tell me when Brady was the driving force behind a championship. Brady has been on stacked teams for every superbowl he’s won. Great defenses that saved him from horrid games where he played like crap and he got lucky. Brady has had the best luck of any sports players ever. Tuck rule anyone??Not to mention he’s a cheater and never deserved to go to that 2014 superbowl. And let’s get down to it bill Russel has 11 rings and Jordan has 6 does anyone think Russel is a better player? No absolutely not. And to attack mahomes for superbowl 55 is ridiculous you guys know 4 out of his 5 linemen were out of that game. That he threw three passes that hit his receivers in the hands or their literal facemasks and they dropped them. No doubt that bucs defense was incredible and they didn’t stand much of a chance without a healthy line. And you guys acting like the bucs were some bad team that beat this juggernaut chiefs team is stupid. We all know games are decided by health and level of play on that day. Any given Sunday right. I would love to come on your show and debate you guys on this 😂😂
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching and commenting, but we can respectfully disagree. I think Mahomes still has a lot to prove to be considered even the same air as Tom Brady. As I said in the video multiple times, Mahomes is a great player, and I can't wait to see if he eclipses Brady's all-time great career, but time will tell.
@shotinthedark53872 ай бұрын
I get that he has a ways to go and to be clear I never argued that he was the goat yet I just think some of your points are taken from Brady’s point of view. Right now I have Brady then Montana then mahomes. I still think he needs 2 to 3 more rings for it to be a legit debate. The point I’m trying to make is don’t look at or compare mahomes right now to Brady’s whole career. Let’s look at Brady and mahomes as they were/are after 6 years as a starter. Mahomes leads Brady in literally everything. He has almost 100 more passing touchdowns in that span than Brady. And yes I realize that the league is more offensive but still 100 that’s a big amount over 6 years. He’s the best playoff qb we’ve ever seen. Look at his stats he’s literally first in everything. Not totals but like qbr average yards per game and so on. Mahomes is 3-0 in superbowls when down by ten. He’s 9-2 when down by 7. Brady is 10-11, which is still impressive. The rest of the league is like 2-58 or something. He won the superbowl when leading the league in drops, had an o lineman who was penalized more than any other player that year, had a negative turnover differential, didn’t have a 1,000 yard rusher or receiver. I could keep going.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
@@shotinthedark5387 Brady is the best playoff QB ever. Mahomes could be that, but we have to watch it play out. There is so much ball left to be played, but I appreciate your feedback because those are all valid points. Mahomes is undoubtedly 2nd all-time for me or tied with Montana.
@aaronalbany32372 ай бұрын
Exactly, dude Mahomes was made in a lab he is the son of Farve and Peyton
@aaronalbany32372 ай бұрын
Bro just use the eye test, Mahomes is just on another level and it’s ok to say that. Then in 20-30yrs someone will be better than Mahomes. That’s just how it goes
@Cryptocracy_Now2 ай бұрын
Problem is that Mahomes is well ahead of Brady’s pace. If the pace keeps up he will easily surpass him. I get what you’re saying but you absolutely can not say that Mahomes can’t catch him. The evidence suggests the precise opposite.
@JohnClarkW2 ай бұрын
Until about 2015, we weren't even sure if Brady was the best QB of his era. Payton Manning was only 1 ring behind, and had far better individual stats. You are ignoring some keys facts. Tom Brady NEVER won a ring without a top 10 defense. Mahomes has only one season when they were in the top 10. Mahomes worst season was losing in the AFCCG, Tom Brady completely missed the playoffs in his second season. Mahomes won more playoff games in his first season as a starter than the Chiefs franchise had won in the previous five decades. At the rate Mahomes is going he will tie Mahomes on playoff victories in 8 seasons, at which point Mahomes will only be 36. I do agree that Brady's career records are going to be tough to catch, but that is more about longevity than being the better QB. Mahomes peak is already more impressive, and he is still going up, you also are forgetting that in terms of career track, Brady was already 38 when he won ring number 4, just remember that if Mahomes wins this year, the discussion of best QB might already be over. If Mahomes never takes another snap, he is already the 2nd best QB ever, and that is after 6 years.
@JohnClarkW2 ай бұрын
The reason the Chiefs didn't score in that game Super Bowl game had not a damn thing to do with Tom Brady. The Bucs defense won that super bowl, and did so against a crushed offensive line. The Chiefs had the crappiest injury luck in the playoffs that year, and still got to the game.
@sterling21442 ай бұрын
It’s not too late to delete this bro😅
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
Why would I delete it? Saying Tom Brady is in a class of his own isn't a hot take; watch the whole video, not the intro.
@sterling21442 ай бұрын
24:53 you can’t cover Brady for losing saying “he isn’t going to line up against lane Johnson” yet dog mahomes for losing vs Brady when he had no Oline, 2 of his picks were from tipped passes, his passes were smacking the WRs in the face and letting it drop. Mahomes wasn’t THE reason they lost. He did everything is his power just like yall say Brady did “LeBron style”. Watch the tape don’t just look up stats. He’s done more in his first 7 years than any of Brady’s first, middle, or end careers. And he didnt have a “spygate” or “deflategate” or “tuck rule”
@sterling21442 ай бұрын
I also love how you guys dog on how mahomes had no touchdowns in that Super Bowl. Tom Brady didn’t score in the 2002 divisional round, 2002 afc championship, 2012 afc championship, 2014 afc divisional, and the 2019 Super Bowl. Yet he won all those games. He was always surrounded by a great defense and offense. Not saying he isn’t great. But it’s a different kind of greatness seeing mahomes play. Stats may not match up but mahomes is the best/most talented QB OAT
@jakebarnes19502 ай бұрын
LOL, You guys are so desperate to keep Brady reputation alive. Compare the first 6 or 7 seasons between Mahomes and Brady and Mahomes smokes him. Mahomes cannot prove he is better than Brady until he plays in season 8 to whatever is Mahomes last season. Brady had no Super Bowl wins for nine seasons in a row. Mahomes will never go more than 3 or 4 seasons without a win. Just let Mahomes play and decide on Mahomes at the end of his career. If Mahomes sucks in the future then you guys win.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
Desperate to keep Brady's legacy alive? Brady will legitimately be forever engrained in the game of football he's immortal. Brother, did you watch the video or the first 30 seconds? We said all of this. There is also a 0% chance Mahomes "sucks." The argument is that Mahomes has a lot to prove, so let's watch it play out.
@gregjohnson7270Ай бұрын
I don't know why people are having this conversation now, I think it shouldn't even happen for another 15-17 years.
@ScaryHoursStudioАй бұрын
Thank you, this is all that was trying to be said the whole time.
@vgb13282 ай бұрын
The bucs had not been to a playoff since 2007...mike evans for instance has been there 8 seasons with a 1000 yards every season ...their defenses was 1 rounders they were a losing franchuse so always had high drafts ...brady proved the adage " you can have all the talent in the world but if you dont know how to use it it dont matter" ..the owner gm and coach said they said they needed to learn how to win and they went and got tom brady
@CodyMcCool2 ай бұрын
this is absolute garbage. i agree that right now he is not there, but there is nothing so far in mahomes career that suggests he won't get there. if he gets the 3 peat, he will be way closer than you think. just because brady career was 20+ years doesn't mean mahomes cant get there. I am not saying he will get there, but nothing he has done so far suggests that he won't. there is nothing wrong having that conversation. also, he doesn't need 7 to be better. if he gets a 3 peat and wins 5 than he is the goat.at this rate, mahomes won't need to play 23 years to get there.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your comment but respectfully disagree; Brady beat Mahomes head-to-head in a Super Bowl. He will have to prove a lot to outshine that result. Mahomes is a great player no matter what, but he has a lot to accomplish for me to consider him the GOAT. But you are entitled to your own opinion and thank you for watching.
@CodyMcCool2 ай бұрын
@ScaryHoursStudios yeah because only agreed to play for a team with one of the best defenses ever, and if course chiefs had decimated o line and receivers that couldn't catch lasers right to them. You switch qbs and mahomes destroys brady in that game. But hey you're right, brady won, my point is that you can't say with certainty that he won't catch brady. You have no idea. The only thing to go by is his career so far comparatively and mahomes is doing more than fine in that front. You're assuming mahomes next 6 or 7 years won't be similar to his first 6 or 7 seasons and you cannot guarantee it won't be. You're preaching something as fact when it simply isn't.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
@@CodyMcCool You are correct; I have no idea, and neither do you. I said that in the video. I did not speak hypothetically; I spoke facts. We still have a lot that needs to play out, but I will appreciate greatness, and IF he reaches GOAT status, I will acknowledge it at that time.
@CodyMcCool2 ай бұрын
@ScaryHoursStudios that's cool, and I never said he will be. Like the "fact" in your title about how he will never pass brady. All your reasons he won't pass brady are hypothetical. Based on stats, but you really don't know for sure.
@vgb13282 ай бұрын
@@CodyMcCoolstop with the excuses the OL was mess all season..BUT MAHOMES AND REID thought that he could win with his legs...THAT WHY DIDNT ADJUST TO RUN GAME...TOM BRADT DEVISED THE GAME PLAN FOR BOWLES IN THAT SB RUN
@calebconver21882 ай бұрын
Obviously Brady has the longevity numbers but mahomes is the best to ever play the position. His impact on the game from the position is more influential than Brady. That’s the argument and it is backed by the numbers at this point in his career. Also if Brady has 5 Super Bowl mvps then mahomes only needs 2 more sbmvps to match because he has 3 currently. Also mahomes has won offensive player of the year in 2018.
@francisdasta8646Ай бұрын
Brady also won two Super Bowls when he only scored 13 points. Brady had a long career and had a lot of luck go his way.
@ScaryHoursStudioАй бұрын
Correct mahomes is also an extra point miss away last Super Bowl from not having it. So yes luck plays into this.
@jamesduncan55592 ай бұрын
Mahomes played 6 games against Brady and they split them 3-3. Yes Brady won both playoff matches, however the argument that brady had better and more complete teams would be an easy argument, let alone if Dee Ford doesn't line up offside when Brady throws the game ending INT in the AFC title game. Mahomes goes and potentially beats the Rams as Brady did and Brady misses out on another ring. The Bucs team was so much more talented than people let on. That team went 7-9 with Winston throwing 30 INTs and loosing 5 of his 12 fumbles. If Winston doesn't have 2+ turnovers a game, who knows how many more wins that team would've had and how far in the postseason they would have gone. Even if the chiefs were completely healthy in the 2020 SB I would bet the Bucs win 6 or 7 out of 10 matches. That front 7 matched up so well against the O line of KC especially when the 2 starting tackles are out and only 1 player of the 5 lineman was at his original position. KC may not have scored a TD in the game but it doesn't change the fact Mahomes threw 2 TD passes but Tyreek Hill and Darrel Williams both dropped the passes hitting their hands and/or face while Mahomes scramble for 497 yards before either throwing or getting sacked while dealing with pressure 31-56 drop backs. A TB defense featuring Vita Vea, Suh, Shaq Barret, JPP, Devon White, and Lavonte David. The KC Def. was too small for that Bucs O line and specialty players in Gronk, Evans, Brown, and Fournette just ate up KC. All the postseason statistics in particular are going to be so skewed with only 1 team getting the bye and another game being played wild card weekend. Also, the reg. season stats with the additional game for the 17-game season. Brady's greatness is added due to his longevity, availability is the best ability for players, so his career stats are insane to comprehend, which is why per game stats should be compared initially. Or just take Brady's best 7-8 seasons and put those against Mahomes current career after the next season or 2.
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you watching!
@francisdarko86472 ай бұрын
Everything Brady can do, Mahomes can do.. Plus more! ...Will his team to a victory as a leader ✅ Put the team on his back for game-winning drive ✅ Read defenses like no other ✅... Brady is obviously a great QB, but he was never the most talented.. he's the Goat because of his preparation, leadership, longevity, and the intangible Winnign X factor. Mahomes has all those qualities plus he can throw for 5k yards, scramble for a key first down (Brady couldn't scramble to save his life), and throw the ball to anywhere on the field from anywhere on the field. If you asked EVERY head coach in the league to pick between Brady and Mahomes I guarantee 80% would pick Patrick Mahomes.
@vgb13282 ай бұрын
@francisdarko8647....can do more than brady but beat him...all the fancy play but could not beat brady in his 40's okkkk
@kcsal18762 ай бұрын
@@vgb1328Brady couldn't beat Eli with better teams...in the AFC championship game Mahomes way outplayed Brady ...Brady ,like Brady does gets lucky (Dee Ford)...SB Mahomes had no blocking but thats a loss..so at worst should be 1-1..Mahomes is just better at football
@vgb13282 ай бұрын
@@kcsal1876 well let's get technical...bb defenses could not beat ELI brady put his team in the lead both SB bb defenses gave it ip...AFC ha ha you act as of d Ford offsides was last play...matter of fact mahomes had the ball last on regulation to beat brady but could not do it had to settle for FG to tie and force OT and brady was brady converted 3 BEAUTIFUL 3 3RD SND LONGS RIGHT DOWN THE FIELD SND SCORE...mahomes had a chance to beat brady and could not!!!!!!
@BlackMamba-ec4dn2 ай бұрын
The one thing that will separate the two, is Mahomes doesn’t lose the big game, Brady has! He lost to Eli twice, what kind of a GOAT is that? Two of Brady’s Super Bowls were handed to him on a silver platter! Seattle should have ran Beastmode 3 times on the goal line! All the Falcons had to do was run the ball in the second half, instead, they kept throwing the ball! The Patriots and Bucs defense won those Super Bowls! Joe Montana is still the GOAT, because he played in an era of football when the QB had to be a man in that pocket! Brady’s knee injury is responsible for not being able to hit a QB below his knees, and now you can’t hit him high! Two completely different games for the receivers Brady played with, you can’t touch them anymore! Don’t cry GOAT shit in this era, and Mahomes benefits from the rules changes as well! Montana and Bradshaw are the top 2, not Mahomes or Brady!
@bobcouch937Ай бұрын
All these Brady truthers crack me up Just watch the damn game Mahomes is significantly better than Brady It’s not even close
@francisdasta8646Ай бұрын
I agree that Mahomes is not at Brady's level. Mahomes is better. Better arm, better athlete, more talented.
@kcsal18762 ай бұрын
so Mahomes is the better football player by quite a bit...Can make a ton of plays Brady could never make.....but Brady is much more accomplished ...Mahomes wins the eye test ..wins more...carries his teams more....Now...Mahomes has to keep.it up...but currently he is ahead of Bradys pace..Mahomes has been quite a bit better to thus same point. These are facts
@ScaryHoursStudio2 ай бұрын
@@kcsal1876 yes if you started watching the NFL 2 years ago I can see why you think that. Sit down, go do some homework, and report back when you’re done.
@kcsal1876Ай бұрын
ya if u watch Brady play football and Mahomes play football and u think Brady is better you are biased. Also Brady cheated..also saying Mahomes could NEVER get there proves your bias. He doesn't have to win 7 to be the best ..ala MJ. Mahomes gets to 5 he will be considered ...also your stats are wrong..Mahomes won OPOY in 2018..do some research ...clown shit..lol
@kcsal1876Ай бұрын
also Mahomes outplayed Brady bad in the AFC championship game ..Brady had just lost the game on his 3rd INT but Dee Ford ..thats why H2H is so such a stupid argument ...its fine ..u like Brady ..just admit that. Mahomes makes plays Brady is not capable of making...Mahomes isn't the GOAT ..He is just better at QB...Brady is more accomplished