Here's Why The 8BitDo SN30 Pro+ Is My New Favorite Controller

[@mpholicx2]

Wow, rechargeable AND replaceable. Customer convenience, what a concept.

[@joserachi96]

And only $50 🤯

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@arbaran01 drift isn't something that happens with every controller though i've had my xenoblade 2 pro controller for around the same amount of time and i haven't had that problem.

[@volsavious2319]

I have a Nyko core pro for my switch. Cost me 30$. It has gyro nfc rumble the only thing it doesn't do is turn the switch on. Best 30$ I spent

[@pingu3n_]

I'm confused, so can you recharge the controller with a USB like you could a PS4, or do you have to take out the battery itself and have a whole separate battery charger?

[@Angultra]

@@pingu3n_ You can charge it via USB like a PS4 controller.

[@theappleanddjaymusic]

This is honestly the first controller from 8BitDo that I am really interested in.

[@theappleanddjaymusic]

@@asianpablo1574 Yeah, but a big thing for me are the extended grips that this one has.

[@jjadey1752]

Same

[@nctrnlmjsty798]

All their controllers are amazing, you've been missing out.

[@DamnRightDamien]

I just hope they get all the standard classic console color schemes. I'd buy for an NES theme!

[@misterkeebler]

Ya I'll have to try this one. People talk up the snes style ones, but the dpad is average at best, and frankly the snes form factor is not very ergonomic for longer sessions. I say this as an snes diehard. The extended grips should fix that.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

Honestly, the thing that most makes me want this controller? The B and A buttons are convex, but it looks like the X and Y buttons are CONCAVE. This is how it was on the actual SNES controllers back in the day and it's still my favourite button style. The way the pad of your thumb rests between them, with the convex "lower" buttons coming up under the knuckle and the tip of your thumb in the concave portion of the "upper" buttons always felt very ergonomic. I've never really liked the super convex xbox "beans" and while the "mostly flat" playstation buttons get the job done I've always missed the old-school SNES style. Bravo to 8BitDo for FINALLY getting this detail right.

[@naam4769]

thanks to let it know.

[@leonpaelinck]

But they're so far apart

[@ssj3fox]

Mad props on the battery. The best of all worlds!

[@bland9876]

Yet when microsoft does it everyone complains.

[@Mike-nf6nf]

@Mickey Brown For which controller? My wireless XBox One controller can run on 2 AAs.

[@SteelSkin667]

@Mickey Brown Because the battery pack doesn't come with the controller doesn't mean that the charging system isn't the same.

[@pixlpuk3]

@@Mike-nf6nf nobody want's to buy batteries to use a controller literally a rechargeable battery is the best way to play games

[@ege8240]

@@Mike-nf6nf the chargeble ones are the good ones, they sell them seperatly

[@Michael-kp4bd]

Something everyone seems to overlook: the button feel/shape are different between the models. SN style has the concave, shiny X and Y buttons shaped like "smarties" . The black has convex buttons. I forget what the gameboy ones are like. I think they're like the feel of the black ones, just gb colors. For a modern feel, go black. For the perfect SNES-like experience, go SNES.

[@iduncan5424]

I noticed the Gameboy color scheme has a different dpad aswell

[@badwrongfun5541]

Yeah! I have the game boy style one and the texture/grip on the dpad is indeed different. However, I do think it feels good.

[@nikkoa.3639]

I didn't want the SNES color scheme but the concave surface is probably more comfy.

[@TearTheRoof0ff]

I suppose as a UK SNES owner, my SNES-like experience will be the black!

[@frozenlicks]

Best of all worlds *Nintendo's* SNES Dpad and B,A,Y, X buttons *Playstation's* Grip and analog layout *X-Box's* trigger buttons and detachable battery(+ AA battery compatible)

[@THEpicND]

Mark Airwind ive always preferred the asymmetrical designers so thats a negative for me but i can see how its a positive for some people and some games

[@kastaway-mtx]

No headphone jack. Battery isn’t as good as the pro.

[@THEpicND]

Py Tech thats true

[@obliviondio]

@@kastaway-mtx You can change the batteries to whatever you want and on demand compared to pro which is a proprietary battery that requires you to take the controller apart.

[@dogtime7061]

@@kastaway-mtx Merely by being removable it's better than the pro's battery

[@BraxtonKovary]

It reminds me of the SNES controller and the PS4 combined together. Great looking controller! Hope to pick one up one day!

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

The Playstation controller was pretty much designed after the SNES. All it really added was a couple of shoulder buttons and the hand grip. When analog sticks became a thing, they slapped a couple at the bottom and... yeah they haven't added much in the 20 years since.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

I mean the original PlayStation basically was part of the SNES. (Was it Nintendo CD they were going to call it?!) The fact the controller is so similar is no accident, obviously.

[@carlvernersson9493]

PS4 Controller has a touchpad though, so more like the PS3 controller and SNES controller combined?

[@nitinanku]

John Doe It was going to be called the Play Station with a space in it while it was part of the Nintendo deal instead of being one word as we have today

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@nitinanku I can never get over the fact that Nintendo essentially created their own Frankenstein monster. If they hadn't pulled out of the deal with Sony we would never have what we have now. (too bad Sony's become so cocky they think they can pull all their shenanigans without repercussions.)

[@neightmorris]

The ease at which you take apart controllers is fun to watch.

[@SteveTheSuperSanchez]

I got mine yesterday, and I can't believe it took this long...I use it for my steam account and the Switch. It is super perfect.

[@keithpalacios11]

Do you own a Nintendo Switch Pro Controller?

[@SteveTheSuperSanchez]

@@keithpalacios11 No. I got several at launch and all of them had terrible dpads. I was trying to play puyo puyo with friends and Zelda when traveling and it kept messing up my flow. I tried the "revisions" and they are pretty much the same to me. I wanted to believe but I sent all those back and Nintendo even took one back from me because they made me miss a retail return because of their warranty policy. They were good sports about it. This was all amongst bad Launch Joy con that I too had, and even separately purchased joycon dead HD rumble problems.

[@MikazukiKai]

does it have motion control?

[@SteveTheSuperSanchez]

@@MikazukiKai yeah. The only thing it doesn't have is NFC.

[@MikazukiKai]

@@SteveTheSuperSanchez sounds fair enough, Thanx For the fast reply ^_^!

[@DreamSneak]

The replaceable battery alone has sold me on this controller. I'll definitely be grabbing one on release.

[@Ederfb78]

Good timing, I just ordered one from Amazon yesterday and will get it today :) Thanks for confirming I made a good choice :)

[@Ederfb78]

@@GodhandPlusOne I did not test the SN30 Pro+ with MM2 yet, but I played MM2 mostly exclusively with my SN30 Pro (about 40 hours) and never had any issue with it.

[@thedaoug]

lucky, i ordered mine yesterday and im not getting it until a month from now

[@AlanS158]

RyumanX a month later, what do you think of it?

[@thedaoug]

@@AlanS158 for some reason it got delivered way quicker, but using it, you really have to like the layout cause it does feel a little different compared to a standard controller, but other than that, its amazing espcially at its price, what you give up (more hd rumble [still has rumble just not hd] nfc for amiibo and a arguably better layout, its a great controller

[@inquisitorchristopher8527]

I love how completely uncomplicated this teardown is. Like, if you take apart a PS3 or PS4 controller, that is super complicated and it's all cramped inside. But this is super well built.

[@megan_alnico]

Wow he REALLY likes this thing. I mean, he actually showed us footage of him putting it BACK TOGETHER. I can't remember the last time that happened. That's quite an endorsement.

[@mrlyles2002able]

This thing feels more comfortable than the Dual Shock 4. I couldn't believe it.

[@benhair1920]

so you like it?? im ready to pull the trigger and get one off amzon but i kinda wanted to know from ppl first hand if they like it still after the first day or two

[@mrlyles2002able]

If it had amiibo support I would never use the Nintendo Pro controller again. It's my favorite controller now.

[@mrlyles2002able]

I sprung for the all black version.

[@benhair1920]

Thanks, I went with the snes for nostalgia. lol

[@TheABElia]

Just got mine delivered today, and while I was trying it out, one of the first things I said to myself was, "Damn, I wish I could use this w/ my PS4!" It just feels pretty much perfect.

[@sergeleon1163]

Wish they made a European SNES controller colour scheme for this

[@iplaydodgeball]

@@Valentine570 nintendo sent them a trademark infringement notice last year and they had to changethe SNES, SFC, and NES color schemes

[@EKOddLink]

@@iplaydodgeball Man that's really sad. Hope they find some way to make a SF30Pro +

[@ZnakerFIN]

@@iplaydodgeball Interesting. Considering that they're still using the US color scheme. I wonder why Nintendo is so much more sensitive with the Europena colors.

[@lightningx10]

@@ZnakerFIN technically they aren't using the concave - convex light purple dark purple combo so it's ok. Maybe if they made the buttons 2 of the euro colours and the triggers the other 2 colours like some GBA mods it might look nice

[@SkywardKing]

@@ZnakerFIN it's definitely a much lighter purple. I wondered why, but now I see

[@buccob]

@Spawn Wave. Thank you very much. Your teardown helped me a lot when replacing the rubber behind the buttons. The "A" button had a crack in the rubber and kept getting stucked. I contacted 8BitDo's support and they will send me replacements, but I found my old SNes controller and it was almost the same. Now I got it working again, hopefully until the spare parts arrive from China.

[@townlinetim876]

I’m definitely getting one of those. We all need a quality controller for 2d games.

[@obliviondio]

Pro controller dpad sucks and using the analog for 2d games only gets you soo far since there's more motion involved with a stick vs the near instantaneous dpad

[@brugges]

@@obliviondio Looks like you never tried this model before talking, the dpad on the Sn30pro/Sn30pro+ is great, flexible and stiff at the same time. Way better than their previous pro pad (the one that really looked like the original Snes pad). Its cross was indeed unpleasant to use.

[@JamesDewey]

"Start" and "select" being off-center bothers me way more than it ought to.

[@Michael-kp4bd]

Didn't bother me... until you said something. Dammit. You're now breathing manually!!

[@vincentgarcia6630]

Also YOU'VE JUST LOST THE GAME

[@awsumguy]

@@vincentgarcia6630 shit

[@mustafaalnsour1676]

I saw it after seeing you comment and now I can't unsee

[@stead6157]

You're one evil person.

[@Luvequalsrage]

my controller came in and honestly im so happy. i ordered one day shipping on amazon but it didnt come but it was so worth the wait. glad i took this over the regular switch pro controller

[@VanNguyen-ns6ck]

Mine just arrived (Black Edition), thanks to this video. Great build quality and perfect size. The analogs sticks are near perfect for FPS (adjusted resistance to 99%) and the triggers feel great for any kind of game (adjusted resistance to 50%). The rumble feature is last gen and feels muddy, after tuning it down (adjusted to level 1) it feels a bit more like the HD rumble on the official Switch Pro Controller. Wireless is great, no lag and easy to sync. My only complaint is the + and - buttons (start and select), they are a bit of a reach from the face buttons and left analog stick. Specifically for the Black Edition, the face button labels YXBA are labeled in black letters (yup on a black controller) and is very hard to make out.

[@jadeiscooll5000]

I have been using the Wii Classic Controller Pro with the 8BitDo adapter on my switch for a while now. This controller is a must buy for me!

[@TheAbsol7448]

I really like the WCP, so I'd love an updated wireless version of it, with more comfortable sticks.

[@MagicalAuroraDream]

I just ordered the 8Bitdo adapter to use with my switch and either one of my Xbox One S or PS4 controllers. Still, I might buy one of 8Bitdo's actual controllers at some point.

[@derekw8039]

Wow, this controller has EVERYTHING! I just wish there were a version with the left stick and d-pad positions switched.

[@vincentgarcia6630]

Derek W so an Xbox 360 controller but with ps4 grips lol?

[@sparda11]

I think that defeats the purpose of this controller, at least for what I had in mind.

[@HgihAsFcuk]

That would be the perfect controller, Hopefully they update the firmware to make it able to power the switch on

[@clutchmelon4587]

@North American KZbinr The sticks are convex in the middle, with the raised edges providing extra control so your thumbs don't slip. It's a good combination of concave and convex, in my opinion.

[@kc_869]

I doubt it will the only other controllers that does it is licensed third party controllers by Nintendo

[@AcidDotDrop]

That's pretty much why I stopped using the 8bitdo controllers. As neat as they are built, it has still that annoying cheap ipega controller touch to it with connecting and functionalities.

[@ZealousGoatt]

Yeaa..its an amazing controller. I just wish it was a little more friendly connecting to the switch

[@andreasbernardi3654]

@@ZealousGoatt mine connected easily every time. one of the best 3rd party controller out there.

[@unbreakablealex2732]

One day he will open up a controller and be surprised by a message like: „hello spawnwave“. Come on, some controller manufacturer needs to do this :D

[@Ant_Stark]

That's fucking stupid

[@johnflapper6361]

That would be awesome. I hope someone does

[@Wheeljack2k]

Facebook has already done this with the Oculus controllers. Messages like 'Hello ifixit, we see you' It didn't go over too well.

[@eleven9286]

Or they should tuck in a couple of those little blue paint bombs they use to stop bank robbers..

[@luigiluigi8086]

that’s dumb

[@PajamaSenpai]

I was already sold at the battery, but the controller mapping seems incredible. If the control starts to drift (ahem, Nintendo) you can adjust the deadzones in the settings. I'm definitely gonna buy it!

[@Mundus66]

The only reason why original controllers start to drift is because of the material used. I mean pretty much every console since the PS2 has been drift free with the exception of the switch. So i don't think 3rd party controllers will have the same problem. Unless they use the same material.

[@PajamaSenpai]

@@Mundus66 I know that this controller won't have drift like the joycons but, every controller starts to drift eventually. It would probably be years until this controller starts drifting but when it doea the software will help out.

[@hambu4781]

@@Mundus66 That's not true.

[@Cookieboy70]

@@Mundus66 That's absolutely not true. I have had 2 Xbox 360 and 2 PS4 controllers that drifted.

[@qwertylerqw3]

You can actually do some really interesting stuff with this controller. One example of something I did was I set up a macro to short hop in Smash Bros. whenever I push “Y” Another example is I enabled the screenshot button to be a hold turbo and I could let it skip through Splatoon 2’s intro for me. Worth the $50 just for that, right?!

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

But without a pc to adjust settings this controller with all those features is pretty worthless, true?

[@qwertylerqw3]

Yeah those features wouldn’t apply to you if you don’t have a Windows/Mac PC. I mainly bought it for the accurate d-pad, but the customizability is a bonus

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

@@qwertylerqw3 I also just read that the analogs are stiff, which i hate (makes looking around in fps's way too jerky). Without a way to adjust that ima have to pass on this. Thanks.

[@madrocts]

@@DickRileyTheConquistador you read... If you haven't used it yourself, so how is this accurate con towards the controller

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

@@madrocts Yes I READ, thru comments and that is what popular opinion are saying. Other videos have also stated Stiff analogs "but that maybe that issue can be resolved in setting adjustments" ON PC. Thats a con TO ME cuz i dont own a pc and analogs shouldnt come from the manufacturer STIFF. Also, at only $10 cheaper than 1st party, they damn well better have AWAKE FROM SLEEP and NFC SUPPORT or else whats the point buying 3rd party at almost the same fu©king price point? Too many CONS for me. Im out.

[@docdavesmediacave6104]

Been looking forward to this video since you've been so in depth in the past about controllers. That and I ordered mine yesterday already lol

[@nightwalkerj]

Hah! Same here.

[@jahjoeka]

Did u get it yet?

[@docdavesmediacave6104]

@@jahjoeka Arriving Wednesday.

[@TomFoolery9001]

I just updated my fc30 pro and now it works with the Nintendo switch. I am really impressed that they have added this functionality to older controllers and it makes me want more of their products! Keep up the great work 8bitDo!

[@pepekong]

Just got this bad boy in the mail. Indeed, it feels and plays great!

[@latinochico]

Does it feel like a premium product?

[@KBvidss]

Also does the rubber on the sticks wear away? My 8bito snes controller does sadly

[@keithpalacios11]

What store in the mall sells 8BitDo?

[@piggyreet6739]

Congratulations!

[@BomberDX97]

So do you still feel it was worth it after having it for a few months?

[@TheMarrt]

Thank you so much for opening this! A review without a teardown is no review for me. You could setup some latency test though I can instantly tell they improved the D-pad. The carbon landings on the previous gamepads had an X-shape, which caused the affinity for diagonals. These landings will have a better diagonal separation for sure. Now if they have softened the rubbers too, this gamepad might be the first 8bitdo Pad i don't have to mod. I agree about the name. It does hint the evolution, but just "8BitDo PRO" or something fancy like "8BitDo Custrom" would easier to associate

[@ducciboi]

This controller is almost perfect but it feels very counter intuitive when you have to press button combinations to sync with different devices instead of just having a switch on the controller. I'm also having issues with the battery losing its charge way too quickly which seems to be pretty common with this controller.

[@Xfade81]

It actually makes it easier, as it doesn't need a extra button pcb. No need to flip wonky switches.

[@blues_721]

@@Xfade81 +1 here. I have the Pro 2 (updated version of the SN30+), and the physical switch is really wonky. Bad design, so now its loose and it makes my controller disconnect very often. Had to keep it in place with sticky tack (thanks Reddit) and even then, it's still spotty.

[@Charsept]

I bought the SN30 Pro right before I discovered there was a Pro+. This thing looks amazing. I kinda regret getting the other one but at least it's more compact. 8bitdo really makes some good bluetooth controllers.

[@markjdube]

If you ever get the pro+ you could use your pro as your on-the-go controller as it’s more compact. Both seem like great controllers though!

[@JerryLoffelbein]

Yeah, got mine delivered on Friday, and I'm quite impressed. It's like everything I liked from the SN30 Pro, but made more comfortable. Having larger hands, it helps a lot. Especially the full-size shoulder buttons. Since it's an iteration on the SN30, thus a modified SNES controller, I understand the placement of pieces. However , the 2 analog sticks are closer together than on a PS4 controller, more like the distance of the DualShock 1-3 controllers. That's a little irritating to me, as my thumbs can collide if I'm using both analog sticks at the same time. It doesn't make design sense to offset them like the Pro controller or 360 though. Not a deal breaker, but something they could probably improve over time. About the only other criticism I could think of with it, is that the sticker that informs you of the different pairing modes is under the battery. The battery is SNUG in place, so it takes a bit of time or prying to get it out to get a view on how to pair it with different modes. The SN30 Pro just has it on the back of the controller so it's easily seen whenever it's needed. It might be nice in the future if they had a sticker either on the back of the controller, or perhaps on the underside of the battery cover to make that information easier to access. This thing is a beast though, and probably going to be my go-to controller for PC games and menu-heavy games on Switch. It's an absolute treat for emulation / retro games.

[@AceofTunes]

It's my favourite controller that I have used in a long time; I find it more comfortable than any other controller that I use day to day. It has a good tension in the sticks; the triggers feel wonderful. So glad to have gotten it for Christmas

[@nightwalkerj]

Love these reviews, man! Especially when you take the tech apart and show the inner workings. I look forward to more videos!

[@ValentinoNicko]

as long time Playstation gamer, I really appreciate this kind of controller's layout

[@RascalKyng]

The battery compartment really makes this future proof too... easy to fall back to NiMH AA batteries...

[@chan13153]

Replacing batteries for Switch Pro controller I doubt will be an issue in the future. It's also really easy to replace. Basically 2 screws the handles and then 4 more for the battery cover. And when it comes to finding replacement battery I don't think it will be an issue. It shares the same battery as the 3DS. This is and will be a common battery to find online. Heck I bought a GBA SP replacement battery recently. only current gen controller that might give people problems replacing the battery is the PS4 controller. You actually have to open it up to take the battery out. And those clips are annoying to undo. Also some small pieces might get lost. Still it's not too bad because battery is one of the first things you have access too once you open it up. Joycons on the other hand are a different story and is the hardest controller by far to replace the battery. Even gonna say its easier to replace the battery on the Switch itself than it is to replace the joycons

[@queenbeeautumn]

@@chan13153 Maybe easy now, but not once this hardware enters the "retro" phase, plus I think its more convenient to have a standard AA battery charger and just hot swap whenever a controller is low on batteries, as well as having some ready for remote controls, kids toys etc, hated the move away from standard batteries after the Wii

[@chan13153]

@@queenbeeautumn you would think so but let’s use gba for example. Do a quick amazon or eBay search for gba battery and tell me if it’s rare. Switch pro uses same battery as the 3ds. It’s not gonna be hard. And PS4 well there’s at least 100-300 million controllers out there. Companies will make battery replacements

[@Ederfb78]

Got the controller on Sunday. Definitely one of the best controller I own. I love how it fits in the hands and the buttons work very well. The D-Pad is excellent! If they could patch waking up the Switch with the controller, it would be perfect! :)

[@luistailsprower3051]

Perfect Controller: D-pad: SNES - Nintendo A B X and Y Buttons: SNES - Nintendo Thumbsticks: Playstation 4 - Sony Triggers: Xbox One - Microsoft

[@elbitxo5945]

* D-pad: japanese Saturn ;)

[@luistailsprower3051]

@@elbitxo5945 jpn satirn is same as mega drive, genesis, sega cd, even og xbox and xbox 360.

[@Tekrow]

I'm going to buy this controller after this review. I've never bought a controller based off one video lol nice job 8bitdo and spawn wave

[@FRETW1ZARD]

Please please PLEASE let us see the dpad being used in the switch's input testing menu. I need to see if there are ghost inputs.

[@delphicknight]

Jonathan Treasure: When using their SN30 pro, it is really easy to accidentally press “down” while pressing right (at least for me) so sometimes I accidentally crouch while playing Mario, but there definitely is no drift, although I love mine better than the joy cons and the switch wired GameCube controller. It’s awesome.

[@ZealousGoatt]

There is. At least in mine. But its not horrible

[@mortmortmort8908]

I finally got around to picking one of these up a couple months ago. It has completely replaced my switch pro controller, and it's also the main controller I use for my PC. I love this thing.

[@TheAbsol7448]

I'm hoping they'll make a GCN and Wii Classic Pro controller.

[@piplup2009]

There's a bluetooth gamecube controller available

[@Kashaku3]

GCN? What does the N stand for? Nintendo? So is the ps4 controller called PS4S?

[@Champoforyx]

@@Kashaku3 they use GCN in North America because NGC is trademark of National Geographic Channel.

[@Champoforyx]

I mean how would they do a wii classic controller? Since it has to connect to the Wii remote. And this controller looks almost identical to a wii classic controller pro.

[@TheAbsol7448]

@@Champoforyx They could just do the same thing, with the shell mold of the WCP. I know it's just wishful thinking, but that mold is really comfortable.

[@neoasura]

As a big handed dude that plays 80% emulator and 20% PC games who also likes a good cross DPad. I feel like this was made for me specifically.

[@ItzATM]

GOOD MORNING. Greatest KZbin channel out there

[@joserachi96]

No lie detective.

[@TheZotmeister]

Okay, this is amazing. Probably getting one soon. Thanks for such an in-depth (literally!) review.

[@dankbuster2181]

Saw this at Best Buy. I was so shocked, because I always wanted it, and this is the first time I found it in a store. Turns out, I couldn’t get it cause I was broke

[@irawhitejr]

That is really awesome it is much more than just another 8bitdo controller, I'm amazed by the removable battery, the program to customize buttons, thanks for the thorough review, mine is on the way I got the all black one really excited now!

[@dethwizard]

Thank you for your informative videos! You're a good man.

[@davidz1592]

Thank you Spawn Wave. Definitely buying this now. You sold me on this 100%

[@anthonyc2808]

Advertisers take yet another soul.

[@mugzie18]

Love your videos but I wanted to provide a point of clarification... the company has announced that their name is pronounced 8bit(doo) Just wanted to let you know since you are such a fan of their controller. :)

[@KairuHakubi]

that's... somehow even stupider like the impression I got was that it was supposed to sound like nintendo, but "dat X doe" became a slang among rioting types, so it started to sound really stupid.

[@hundredquestions]

Great video and echos my time with the controller so far. My D-pad test was DKC:TF because I found the SN30 pro would register left or right when I was trying to hold down to crouch, this controller does not have that problem. Fantastic feel in your hand, sturdy, good weight, nice software. I’m liking this better than my Switch Pro Controller.

[@SulfurFurious]

Great video spawn. I am thinking about getting one as well 🤔

[@KennyGJr]

Thanks for the detailed review. I think I'm going get this one for my tablet.

[@viperexcess6214]

This almost seems like the perfect controller. Only missing the headphone Jack. SN30 Pro++?

[@jimmyneutron7221]

Viper Excess Sn30pro+deluxe?

[@Maxx-Oblivion]

SN30 Pro+ Ultra

[@xxkarlosxxxxxx7233]

Viper Excess headphone jack? Um the future is wireless

[@rpghank]

@@xxkarlosxxxxxx7233 Sadly the switch doesnt seem to think so

[@Noah-hx9oi]

@@xxkarlosxxxxxx7233 Not everyone can be bothered to play competitive games and have their headset run out of battery half way through.

[@winlover37]

This controller is the real fucking deal. Been using it on my switch for a year and love it. I plugged it into my PS3 after being done with Dualshock 3's and I was blown away by how much better it is. Best gift I ever got

[@Jimbo28263]

I just got my sn30 pro and it’s a way better deal than Nintendo’s $60 nes controllers

[@user-rd5wj2mm8n]

£60 NES controllers?

[@FirstnameLastName-mr8lk]

@@user-rd5wj2mm8n yes for the nintendo switch the online exclusive ones?

[@badazzboxer]

Elite Diamond Gamer that’s because they are collectible

[@thegreatcarraway]

Kind of an apples/oranges comparison. I see them as two completely different controllers for different uses.

[@chocolatephone7840]

@@thegreatcarraway exactly, what kind of comparison is that?

[@CRead227]

I was looking around for a controller I can use for both my switch and pc and so this one, immediately came to Spawn Wave for a review. I’m getting this right now.

[@LLaw85_]

Really tempted to flip my splatoon & smash pro controllers for this. I hate offset sticks

[@kc_869]

Lawfool85 how is the smash pro d pad?

[@browsingstuffaimlessly4663]

With this controller I can seriously consider getting Katamari for Switch. Offset joysticks ruin the gameplay feel. This controller remedies that problem. Plus it looks more practical over all.

[@LLaw85_]

Kenteo A.K.A Young_Scootie it’s the same crappy d pad thats on all the other pro controllers.

[@MarvinMonroe]

I've had this controller since April 2020 and it's now October 2021 and Ive always loved it and never had any issues. But now since N64 games are available for Switch Online it is unsuseable for all the n64 games. Fine for the Genesis games that released at the same time as the 64 games though. It's starts rumbling as soon as I select a 64 game and won't stop until I stop and go back to the "select game" screen. It's up to date AND my N30 Pro works fine ( not sure if that controller even has rumble though)

[@luistailsprower3051]

Neither my dad or I know if this was him or his imagination, but he found the SN30 Pro+ D-pad to be a teeny weeny smaller than the original SNES one. Which can make the D-pad feel loose at times, maybe I used it extremely heavily. It's still a great D-pad, it's my dad's favorite.

[@iamishsantos]

Thanks for tearing down the SN30 Pro+! Mine definitely needs cleaning cause buttons aren’t as responsive and there’s a little drifting going on. This is almost a year after I bought this awesome controller.

[@papasfritas3]

Can someone explain why it’s so hard to implement wake up functionality on switch third party controllers? It’s been almost 3 years I still don’t get it

[@TrentTheCreator]

Same it's very finicky for me I dont even use mine unless my joy cons are dead.

[@1unar_eclipse]

I think it has to do with controller firmware - Nintendo only gives it to licensed controller makers, I think.

[@dylanrivera333]

Nintendo Has a Code on the firmware with the Joycon and The Pro Controller they don't let I up to third parties

[@David-bj8ri]

I still even have problems with the pro controller, occasionally it will just refuse to wake the switch up.

[@SlickTater]

The reason is 8BitDo controllers aren't primarily for the Switch. They've always been Android first with PC, Mac and Linux their secondary function. They're a Chinese company so their main focus is mobile. With all of the different modes, it probably isn't feasible to keep it connected to a Switch after it's powered off

[@StuCheeks]

Finally bought it and came back to this video to help me make the decision. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@yonyon5432]

Why even bother talking about nfc support? Just use the joycons, there's no reason to make the price higher for a useless feature

[@yonyon5432]

@Mickey Brown I hope for your sake that you're joking... the tech itself costs way more than that, so obviously putting it in a controller will raise its price

[@obliviondio]

Lets also add to the fact that nintendo being a japanese company outsources the hardware from china.

[@SkywardKing]

True, but in a review you just gotta weigh it's available features against the first party offerings. Someone out there will care and appreciate that lol. Also, it eliminates a lot of repeated questions in the comment section.

[@Aragoness]

Because having to trade to joycons just to use the NFC is terrible. And for the ppl saying i would be to expensive there is some "pro controllers" w/ NFC for less than 13 dollars on Alibaba.

[@obliviondio]

@@Aragoness Alibaba as in not the same rate as if it were the same controller sold in america. Not a fair comparison.

[@Simon_E32]

I've been waiting so long to pick this controller up, I'm glad it's a quality product. Probably gonna wait another week or 2 to see if any unforeseen issues pop up then I'll pull the trigger! Great video btw very informative

[@Wheeljack2k]

How far do you have to press the triggers for the switch to recognize them as ZL/ZR (in let's say default settings)?

[@LuxInvidious]

As soon as they’re pressed, just as if they’re digital buttons. I just got the SN30 Pro+ today and that was the first thing I tested playing BotW.

[@MrNotgoth]

You are such a baller for opening up all your hardware overviews. Love you man!!

[@kubuspuchatek19833]

The only disadvantage of this controller is that I can hardly find it anywhere in my country 😔

[@amirhamzah3619]

kubuspuchatek19833 OMG SAME!! I really want this but the only place that sells it is on Online Shops (which i do not trust that much)

[@schmeat7609]

AliExpress for me.

[@Ahmed-mp4og]

@@schmeat7609 bruh that’s the worst website for online shopping

[@willtaylor9091]

This controller is so good. Best one I've ever used. Basically a Dualshock 4 fused with a SNES controller, so it works great for retro and modern games.

[@clarecequiette5118]

Any gud on fortnite? Switch

[@willtaylor9091]

@@clarecequiette5118 I don't play fortnite, so I couldn't tell you for sure, but it most likely works with fortnite great. I've found that the controller works really well with both retro and modern games, and since it's set up like a PS4 controller, it probably works great for fortnite

[@Curryskie]

When you said it's your new favorite I expect it wakes up my Switch. So disappointed… lack of this function is a real deal breaker for me. But it if ever adds this function in a future update this will be my first Switch 3rd party controller.

[@lumaro9704]

Imagine taking 3 steps to turn on your docked switch.

[@toasternfriends3329]

Jesus, how fat and lazy are you??

[@ReavoEnd]

I've been waiting for this video! I was so excited to see it in my feed heheheh. Thanks, John. Can't wait to get my own.

[@Snotnarok]

New name for the controller? I got it: New 8Bit_Pro+ ControllerSN30-Grip+Rumble Gray Edition. Sorted.

[@AdventureRuben]

READ BEFORE BUYING IF YOU OWN A COMPUTER WITHOUT WINDOWS. So I really like this channel and I watch videos multiple times a week, which is why I bought this controller. Jonathan did a great review. And I could wait to get my hands on this product. But what he didn’t mention is that you need a windows computer for firmware updates. So two days ago this controller finally arrived. I took it out of the package, but it was almost empty. I put it on charge overnight, and long story short: until now I just haven’t got it to work/charge with the battery pack, nor Duracell AA batteries. Been goin back an forward with the 8bitDo support, but other then a red indictor when wiring the controller and a simple pairing with the switch it doesn’t go. They have Mac firmware updates on the website, but apparently those don’t do the trick, coz support emailed me this. “You can ask a friend who owns WINDOWS7/10 for help. These operations can only be done with WINDOWS.” The controller might look great, but if you are a casual consumer like myself that justs want to unpack a controller and play, this is a BIG no no. For me this was really big a disappointment. I just packed it all back in the box for return and ordered a Switch Pro controller (that one will also be able to turn the Switch on and off). I feel great for those who have enjoyed it, but the dependence on computers is definitely not going tp be for everyone.

[@opens11]

I just bought a switch pro controller , wishing I'd known about this prior..

[@r4ryder388]

Thank you for doing the controller dissections, it really helps me when I forget how to put one back together!

[@SoFRESHandSoMJ]

I noticed that the LEFT rumble motor has more weights than the RIGHT motor 🤔🤔 Why is that?

[@dannyd4339]

You mean like every controller ever?

[@davidleonreyes]

The difference in size and weight is what actually makes the controller rumble when they spin up. If they were the same size, the effect wouldn't be as noticable.

[@Cyclops1980]

Gives different amount of vibration strength. For example if you scrape the car you are driving on a guard rail the smaller one vibrates, if you crash badly the bigger one vibrates. or both if you drive into a wall at 300km/t :-)

[@dannyd4339]

@@davidleonreyes thank you

[@Wheeljack2k]

The heavier weight does the hard rumble, the small weight does the buzzing.

[@Spideykris51]

I preordered I cant wait to try it out! I'm going to receive it from Amazon later today. I'm so excited great review and great to hear all the incredible features 👌🏼 great video

[@dylankirdahy9591]

Definitely gonna pick up one of these some day, I really like that it has analog triggers for gamecube emulation!

[@bland9876]

the triggers do not click the only controller besides gamecube i know of with clicky triggers is the steam controller

[@bland9876]

@maynardcissist when you get to the bottom of the GameCube controller or of the steam controller's analog triggers they act like a regular button all of a sudden and they do a click press thing if you ever seen the inside of a GameCube controller actually has a rubber just like you see on a face button at the end of it

[@bland9876]

@maynardcissist in games like super Mario sunshine it helps you to know when you have gone past the point where mario stops moving and you can now aim his water blasts but im sure if you used different controller you would get use to not having the click

[@disputedivine5425]

This will be my next purchase. Thanks for the in-depth video!

[@DauntlessDamian]

Criminal: "What are you man?" Circuit Board: "I'm Batboard"

[@helgenx]

Thanks so much for dissembling it, I spilled beer in mine and wanted to clean it up. The insides of this, the design, this is top notch shit, in fact, I've never opened up a pad that was so finely constructed as this one. Everything is where it should be, and snaps in or goes down properly with literally 0 obstructions. It was the most simplest yet clean assembly I've ever seen in most pads I've ever used. It's also the most comfortable I've ever used, and is my main pad for PC. The only downside is the button layout per-say (Nintendo's,) but that's simply because it was designed for it. I can remember the button layout for any pad, so that's not even really a minus. As soon as I saw how good it was, I purchased the black one as well just in case this one (which I highly doubt) wears down or breaks, to which I will attempt to repair it!

[@waynechung3712]

Just got a switch today I'm so excited I feel like a kid again cant wait to play smash and Zelda is their any recomendations you guys have for other games also have online

[@jeremy3261]

Mario kart 8 deluxe

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

I love the all black version of this. We call that "murdered out" when it's a vehicle I believe right. The point is it's tight.

[@ben31uk]

I would be interested if it had a.... headphone jack.

[@chironthecuddley6144]

@Realauthorityofthespiritsquadcodename Gareth It's more for people that like playing 2D games. The D-PAD is honestly on par with the original SNES controller and it's only $50 which isn't bad for a good second pro controller.

[@s_gaming71]

@Realauthorityofthespiritsquadcodename Gareth because the pro controller d-pad sucks and will often give you random unwanted down inputs , this Sn30 pro has a better d-pad and people playing 2d games will want to buy it. Also buying this controller doesnt prevent getting new games , you can buy both if you have enough money , and many people do have enough money. PLUS this controller is cheaper than most other controller and most games

[@chowt002]

@Mykel Hardin Actually, yes you can

[@toasternfriends3329]

@Mykel HardinI believe he thought you were asking it rhetorically, even though it personally didn't seem that way to me at all.

[@whathefuk3512]

Can i play COD mobile in this controller?

[@chinnarciso]

I was looking for a new controller, specifically, an all in one and what u need controller. This is exactly what im looking for. Good pricing, customizable, can be used with ios pc android or switch, wired or wireless, removable battery. Has a software and looks pretty pretty good. Man this hits all the check marks. Glad I stumbled on your video.

[@positivevibesyo]

It's basically a SNES and PS1 controller fused together. 🤤

[@Mailrobot]

Which is kinda what the PS1 controller itself was

[@xenos_n.]

Basically the two best controllers to exist, combined.

[@brendaajamu7152]

@@xenos_n. its too wide

[@xenos_n.]

@@brendaajamu7152 the game boy micro should fit your hands nicely 😂

[@Dragon_Ryder]

4:25 Heyyy, I've got the Xenoblade 2 controller as well! Unfortunately, it's started to drift, so I've actually decided to get the 8bitdo Pro 2 after watching your review. I got the GB design because I love that retro look. It's arriving later today for my birthday, so...I gave a happy birthday gift to myself! I can't wait to try it out for Metroid Dread and Super Metroid. I love playing SM on the SNES Classic because the controller feels really good, so I'll imagine I'll love the Pro 2. Thanks to whomever is reading this; have a great day!

[@bengamin98]

I wish Nintendo would make their own Elite Pro Controller. Something that has similar to XBox’s Elite controller

[@RedSunFX]

I would already be happy with a decent D-Pad

[@chucklea5898]

Thanks John. I'm going to pick one of these up for my switch and PC. I like the multi use. Awesome video.

[@delzanzius6228]

I watched this with no sound and added my own commentary

[@lehran2516]

After Bloodstained I've been reluctant to prepurchase anything, but I'm glad I decided to grab this one. It's my new favorite switch controller so far.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

Lehran I don’t blame ya, the switch version of bloodstained didn’t turn out well at all and I’m pretty sure even now it still isn’t fixed.

[@dasgettopikachu7878]

6:35 Bad news for the TV remote!

[@delux847]

Just got it for my bday. It is fantastic! My favorite controller

[@yekog]

the start select aren’t centered im screaming

[@damezz1726]

Crap why did u mention thatttt

[@traderghost]

Solid review, as always. I'm sold on this controller. Thanks for the fantastic review and breakdown!

[@3hollowedd]

Dashiegames has that new controller for super Mario maker 2!!

[@noquarterdesign]

i've been using the SN30 pro controller for about 8 months and absolutely love it. its so frustrating taking the switch pro controller between the switch and PC, but its so effortless with the 8bitdo. I just ordered the SN30 pro + so i don't have to ever use the switch pro controller again.

[@AskaLangly]

My assumption on turning on Switches remotely: 8bitdo needs to have an actual Nintendo licence. Maybe PowerA has acquired one?

[@aaRafastsbh]

Yeah i think thats it, bc power A does have a license

[@r1skt8k3r]

Awesome controller review!!! I loved the sn30 pro for its portability and now this looks like it is vastly upgraded and replaces the Nintendo pro controller. Plus it's $24 CDN less than a pro controller!!! As soon as I can find a bit of a deal on Amazon Canada I'll definitely pick it up