The "Ultimate" 8BitDo Controller Comparison

[@d.ryan96]

If everyone is ultimate, no one is

[@LiamTrader]

Words from a wise man

[@wordsmith451]

Ur mom ultimate

[@breakpack]

That's deep

[@_JaumxD_]

Capitalism

[@dingomatic]

Exactly - all it does is dilute the branding...which is why we live in the era of Ultra Max Black Walletfucker Pro.

[@AnthonyRiddle]

This is the reason I love my ultimate controller. They took the best parts from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft’s controllers and made one controller out of them. I’ve never used a better controller.

[@ToyKeeper]

Same. It's legitimately better than the big name-brand controllers, and costs less. Their old controllers weren't great, but the 8bitdo Pro 2 and Ultimate are fantastic.

[@Threewlz]

@@ToyKeeper it baffles me how none of the big three have hall effect on their controllers

[@Halauris]

Which version of ultimate controller do you have? There seems to be many.

[@AvengingN00b]

@@Threewlz How does it baffle you? They obviously don't do it because they want to sell you more controllers

[@OmairArif]

Couple notes/corrections. 1) The "Ultimate 2.4G" has officially iOS support over Bluetooth, while the "Ultimate Bluetooth" does not. 2) the "Ultimate 2.4G" also supports Switch if you press a certain button combo (it is explained in the FAQ for the controller on 8bitdo's site). No Gyro though. 3) the reason the "Ultimate Bluetooth" is flaky on Android is because it connects as a Switch controller, and not all versions of android nor most games support switch controllers. 4) The Ultimate Wired (non-xbox) supports the ultimate software, but only in X-input mode. You can't modify the Switch mode on it, make the paddles and profiles useless if you buy that controller for Switch. I feel like the Ultimate C doesn't support Switch solely because it would make the Ultimate Wired largely pointless. I really wish they picked a better naming scheme, had a signular chart which clearly explained all the differences, and made a version of the Ultimate controller with the 8bitdo SN30 Pro 2's guts in it. Bluetooth feels like an afterthought in these controllers and currently you have to buy 2 different Ultimate controllers to get close to the Pro 2's compatibility.

[@Kirby5588]

Is the ultimate 2.4ghz one the pink one? If so then that one connects to just as much as the black $70 one for much cheaper. Only difference is hall sensor sticks and gyro. I'd go for the pink one out of all these controllers.

[@OmairArif]

@@Kirby5588 yes the pink one

[@DaMu24]

As an additional correction, as I wish @Retro Game Corps mentioned this in the closing thoughts, be aware of what you need to play on. The cheapest versions, the C Wired and C 2.4g only work on PC and mobile, NOT consoles. The priced-around-$35 Wired Ultimates only work on their respective consoles (Switch or Xbox) and can work on PC, Steam Deck and mobile, YMMV. The Ultimate Software customization should be a starting point to test full compatibility with the PC, but for Linux OS's, either an update needs to be pushed (like from Valve on the Steam Deck, or a modification to the driver to allow the mid-tier Wired to be recognized like an Xbox controller. And don't expect any of the other controllers that aren't officially licensed by Microsoft to work on Xbox without some help.

[@DragonDreamVNY]

Thank you for sharing. I was thinking recently should I use XInput mode or Android pairing mode for RetroArch in my old Shield TV 😂 I think I didn't bother with Switch mode for my android use case.

[@franciscodelico]

Wait, on your first point, how does the 2.4g version connect to IOS over Bluetooth? Isn't it supposed to NOT have bluetooth? Isn't that the whole point? I'm utterly confused.

[@iTwist24]

literally the video about 8bitdo ultimates that we need. You could've split this videos into a number of videos but you made it as a whole. Literally the "ultimate" comparison. I appreciate the effort man.

[@thefreshtowel9815]

I use my 8bitdo Pro 2 all the time and love it. So versatile and works with almost every device I own

[@bendarel]

The 8bitdo Pro2 is maybe the best one for me, it goes from PC/Mac, to Android/iOS and Switch, work works with the 8Bitdo Ultimate software, you change mode with a switch on the back and cost only 50$. Among all their line up, it's the one I use the most often for gaming on either my Switch in docked mode or my PC.

[@markangeloayaton4559]

But does it have charging dock tho?

[@bendarel]

@@markangeloayaton4559No, it doesn't really need one to be honest, the dock is more of a convenience thing more than anything else. At least for me.

[@GagePeterson]

​@@markangeloayaton4559I don't think so 😢

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

At $20, that wired budget one is an absolute bargain!

[@AngeloT2001]

the purple one is 12 usd rn in amazon rn, a steal

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

@@AngeloT2001 Nice, here in the UK £16 (>$20) is the cheapest I can find, and that's from AliExpress and shipped from China.

[@herogear_art]

It's weird to see them use a name like "ultimate" to describe a range of controllers with different features across a price range of $20-70. I have to thank you for this video, too. My wife got me the Ultimate Switch controller (the $70) and I had no clue the 2.4gHz dongle will work if it's plugged into the charging dock, that's plugged into your gaming device! That's just so cool!

[@OmairArif]

Additionally the "Ultimate" controllers have less compatibility compared to most of their previous controllers. For example your Ultimate model can only act as a Switch controller over Bluetooth and Switch or Xinput over 2.4G.

[@herogear_art]

@@OmairArif yeah, the Pro+ had the most compatibility I can put of them all, I think. The Ultimate line has a better controller feel for an analog stick in the “main” position though, and I love that the Switch Ultimate can actually wake up the console.

[@fryke]

I just wish they'd _finally_ get to the point to release an ultimate version of the Ultimate controller, i.e. one that _actually_ is able to connect to everything. I don't mind (much) if ABXY are labelled the wrong way for my head, but it just _shouldn't_ be the case that something called "Ultimate" has you decide whether you want to use a controller on the Switch or the Xbox and depending on which you buy, you simply CANNOT use it on one of those devices. So either I demand an _actually_ ultimate controller, or they should add an asterisk to that name.

[@fryke]

"The Ultimate Confusion Controllers by 8bitDo."

[@Zanpaa]

That's because Microsoft doesn't want any third party controllers to be wireless on xbox. Not really 8bitdo's fault.

[@fryke]

@@Zanpaa So renaming, then. :)

[@Tazerboy_10]

Yeah

[@JohnSmith-lt8sz]

Actually you can use any controller on windows, even a switch pro or a weird android only controller. But you'll have to use a program called XOutput to emulate a full X-input. The real problem is using a X-input only controller on Nintendo Switch or android.

[@zackdotcomputer]

If you like the SN30 Pro but wish it was more "Ultimate", you should check out the SN30 Pro 2. It's got the same mode-switch features and broad bluetooth support of the Pro 1, but it adds grips, analog triggers, and back buttons with support for remapping via the Ultimate software. I'm still tempted to get the Ultimate for the 2.4ghz and charging dock, but the pro 2 is great.

[@Nate_B3]

the pro still is my favorite controller from 8bitdo. can connect to switch and pc, wirelessly, with both xinput and dinput support. also the external battery that allows you to swap in double a batteries so i can use my rechargeables. perfect controller, if they can make a controller with those features on the Ultimate series grip and layout that would probably be my new favorite. love the colors that aren't just black and white too, like the newer cheaper options and the transparent options for the pro 2 line.

[@OmairArif]

I don't understand how this isn't already a thing, they've released 6 Ultimate controllers now and Bluetooth is an afterthought across the whole lineup (even the "Ultimate Bluetooth" can only act as a Switch Pro controller over Bluetooth, have to use 2.4G for x-input) and you have to buy 2 Ultimate models to come close to the compatibility of the Pro 2.

[@bland9876]

​@@OmairArifyep when they first announced it in was very confused and now I'm just more confused.

[@colewood3297]

Funnily enough one of the reasons I'm probably going to buy a Pro 2 is because it *doesn't* have the ultimate series/X box layout

[@FabianZettl]

Look at Russ who also proves his taste in music with this shirt, good guy russ

[@TeenieTinyTina]

Yeah I've seen him wear this shirt before, he definitely likes good tunes

[@MediumQuality]

We like to say this every time Russ breaks out his mewithoutYou shirt.

[@JollyAndy]

This is incredible timing for me. My old controller finally bit the dust and I'm shopping for an 8bitdo replacement. The whole lineup was a little confusing. Your video was very helpful!

[@Josuh]

Which one did you end up buying?

[@sdmods619]

I love 8bitdo and have nearly all of their controllers. They really revolutionized the 3rd party controller industry and brought us out of the dark ages of cheap poor quality knock offs. Although their Ultimate line up is confusing, I'm happy that they are finding a way to iterate their products in order to survive. I would prefer 8bitdo continues to thrive as a company long into the future. 8bitdo quality is unmatched!

[@akhakimin2408]

hi can you reccomend me 8bitdo controller that are cheap and suitable for ios that also support gyro

[@54356776]

​@@akhakimin2408 Did you get a controller ? I think the 8bitdo lite 2 is the cheapest fully functional controller that they do. Either that or spend some more on a pro 2.

[@Josuh]

@@akhakimin2408pro 2 is pretty solid

[@nxvgg]

do you know if they connect to devices like the Miyoo mini plus or the Powkiddy RGB30

[@qquack1950]

Not me buying the one that dosent work with steam deck without knowing 💀

[@KrystianMajewski]

PSA: The SN30 Pro controllers sometimes have issues with the d-pad. Plenty of posts in the 8BitDo forums. Basically, some controllers have a too sensitive d-pad in the diagonals and will sometimes trigger diagonal movement when you want to go straight. It's subtle when your controller is affected but depending on the game can lead to a frustrating game experience. If you care about d-pad quality you want to pay attention to this

[@gorkskoal9315]

This. I love the Snes pr er um SN30 pro for comfort...but having a character go careening to death or yeet himself off the map, while hilarius. is bad for netflix and chill with a good game. Also the fucking home button is in about the most braindead location known to man.

[@ariefdee6800]

Huh, good to know that I'm not the only one with this D-Pad issue, though I'm using a wired Ultimate.

[@mattb6522]

Thank you for a great review! I've had drift issues with Nintendo's official Pro Controllers, so glad to hear we have some great alternatives. I actually use 8BitDo's SN30 Pro+ with my Switch for pretty much every Switch game (except Smash Bros) and love everything about it! I have a few 8BitDo controllers and am constantly impressed at the build quality and comfort.

[@LTrain-ub1mc]

I ended up ordering the Ultimate Bluetooth Controller along with replacement Xbox style buttons direct from 8bitdo. The replacement buttons were an extra $5. Once it arrived I swapped the buttons and got the best version of the controller with buttons that match my uses.

[@Zanpaa]

I love that they sell buttons with alternate layouts.

[@pupunoob]

What I love about your videos is how well documented all the info is. How easy to understand the breakdown is when you talk about multiple topics/products in one video. Everyone else just love to just mash everything together and its just hard and confusing sometimes to know what they're talking about, especially with a product line as confusing as this.

[@cesarvarela5438]

I wish 8bitdo made an ultimate controller for Xbox but wireless, with the hall effect sticks

[@Zanpaa]

Microsoft doesn't like third party wireless controllers unfortunately.

[@cesarvarela5438]

@@Zanpaa I know I know

[@AmartharDrakestone]

TECHNICALLY controllers with a dongle could still be considered wired, since the controller connects to the dongle which connects through USB, and not to the proprietary receiver in the console itself. And it looks like 8bitdo see that loophole themselves, since they're making an Xbox licensed arcade stick with a wireless dongle (which I am sooo getting as soon as it releases).

[@cesarvarela5438]

@@AmartharDrakestone well then if that's the case i might just buy that

[@samgoff5289]

@@AmartharDrakestone that makes no sense at all

[@ttt-sq6ou]

@RetroGameCorps apparently they changed it. The 2.4g version you like now has a Hall effects option. I doubt you’ll see this. But I’d love to hear your opinion.

[@alicethegrinsecatz6011]

The difference in battery life is obviously because one uses Bluetooth Low Energy and the other uses 2.4 GHz. 2.4 GHz is far beyond the frequencies used by Bluetooth. This allows lower latency, higher transfer speed and higher pulling rate. Two of these three advantages are important for the controller. The downside is of course the higher energy consumption. The frequency of electromagnetic waves is proportional to its energy. To achieve a higher frequency you need more energy. This is basic knowledge of wave optics and, at least in Germany, is part of physics lessons in school at the latest in high school. Also, Ah is the unscientific unit of capacity. It doesn't say much about how much electric energy can actually be stored inside of a battery rather than it counts the mass of electrons that can be stored. The correct unit for the electrical storage capacity is Watt-hour (Wh). The Watt-hour of a battery is equal to its Ampere-hour multiplied by its voltage. So, double capacity doesn't mean that the battery can store double the energy and has double the battery life, if the voltage of this battery is lower. E.g. the Samsung Galaxy S21 and the Huawei Mate 20 have both a 4000 mAh battery but Samsung's battery stores 4.6 V while Huawei only stores 4.2 V. This difference in the voltage results in 9.5% more electrical energy stored in Samsung's battery.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I understand the difference in frequencies, but this is the opposite of what you would expect if we have the assumption that 2.4GHz has more battery drain. The 2.4GHz model is a 480mAh battery and gets 15 hours of battery life, the 2.4GHz/BT model has 1000mAh and 22 hours of battery life despite having a battery that is over 2x in size. So it’s likely not the 2.4GHz connection that is affecting battery life, but other features in the BT controller like gyro.

[@Josuh]

Y'all germans built different when it comes to stuff you learn in high school

[@AndriukYT]

I bought the ultimate (Switch/White) and it's pretty cool. I've used it on Switch, PC and Steam Deck without any issues, the rumble and gyro are good specially for something like Mario Tennis Aces. My only problem is that I wish they had more color options for that one! those green controllers look sick.

[@jonnyeh]

The SN30 Pro BT is my favourite. I love the D-Pad on it, and how it's in the most prominent position. I also love how I can have it remember 4 pairings at once (as long as they're different methods). I have it paired with my Steam Deck (B), Switch (Y), Analogue Pocket (X), and my Macbook (A). It'll connect to whichever device I choose when I power it on.

[@jpsp3901]

I love the shape and the layout, but the d-pad is just too hard to press for me. It feels tiring to use.

[@samnite3]

I still use my SN30 Pro+ SNES theme controller. It works with Switch, Android and PC. I am a fan of the parallel thumbsticks having used the PS3/PS4 much more than the XBOX over the past 15-20 yrs. The only negative is that it can't wake the Switch up from sleep.

[@omanimitokanimi7976]

🎵 This is the ultimate showdown of ultimate 8bitdo pads 🎶

[@skullninja1]

Any controller that connects to your phone can control the xbox if you use remote play as a go between. You can still just look at the tv

[@DonaldWyman]

My one "ultimate" controller is the 8bitdo pro 2. I simply love those. I have the Xbox one and the Bluetooth one. I also have the brook's adapter so I am able to use my Bluetooth pro 2 with my Xbox as well...besides that I bought a set of the Xbox layout buttons for it from 8bitdo and installed them since I use it for Xbox and pc more so than I do on switch. The cool thing about that controller is it was the Game Boy styled one, so it still has the Nintendo legend on the face of the controller if I need those.

[@TheZorch]

Recently got the Ultimate 2.4G Wireless Controller with the charging dock, and I love it so far.

[@Soddus.]

can you tell me how similar is the stick tension compaired to a series s controller?

[@BillyTeaStoop]

I really wish one of them still had the xinput, dinput, and Switch mode options. Because of that functionality, the Sn30+ pro is still my favorite.

[@bland9876]

Yeah they should have made these controllers identical to the SN30 pro 2 controller just with the difference shape. Some people like me prefer the PlayStation layout and some people prefer the Xbox.

[@sw0rdbyte]

wow, seriously this was a great video. i was super glad to see that you tested all the controllers on several different platforms and even had a chart afterwards for which one works on which! i personally got the green ultimate 2.4 g wireless controller so i could play at at my desk - the only solid controller i have is a nintendo switch pro controller and i felt it'd be better for one just for pc gaming use. awesome video, appreciate it so much 💚

[@Tazerboy_10]

Impressive! You could buy an USB extender cable; Male USB to plug into the Switch Dock and the female USB for the wired controller!

[@kacywatson6314]

I like the new pastel colours, but I also like the fact that this controller is available in a wide range of different colours and that’s awesome. What I like to do is get different colours and associate them with the different brands of the consoles that I use them for get a green one for my Xbox. A red one for my Nintendo come on. I want to see a blue one for my PlayStation

[@RyanBounedara]

I just picked up a Victrix Pro BFG myself. Fighting games have never felt better (outside of a proper arcade stick) in case you're curious!

[@vsvHUNTER]

i miss the pro 2 controller :/ still one of my favorite right behind the sn30 pro

[@thefieldsofdawn]

"mewithout8BitDo" - my favorite band!

[@mikeb714]

Can multiple controllers be connected with one dongle?

[@mumiby]

I just received the 30 dollars' one. Since I only play game on a mini pc hooked up to the TV in the living room or on my android tablet (Samsung Tab S8). It's work just as intended. I chose this particular model because I had bad experiences on pc built-in bluetooth adapters (randomly disconnect with some of my bluetooth devices). Nice review by the way PS: They should have made an USB-C 2.4G dongle too for portable device since it has become a norm nowadays

[@JuanCAraujoS]

I have a 1st-gen Intel Compute Stick. My project is to turn it into a retro console with Batocera. For that purpose, and given how unreliable is the BT connection of the aforementioned device, the slimed-down 2.4 version would work the best.

[@bland9876]

5 and 1/2 ft is very short That's like saying the GameCube controllers too long we need to make it shorter. Remember Nintendo had to increase the length of the gamecube controller cord from 6 feet to 9 feet.

[@gordonchen9533]

This video does a good job highlighting how confusing the 8bitdo Ultimate lineup is. For example, before watching this video, I thought all of these had hall effect analog sticks, when in reality only the Bluetooth one has it.

[@jtwgeek]

Was shopping for a PC controller and remembered this video. Ended up buying one of them. The Ultimate C.

[@MistaWells]

to whom it may consern, there is now a hall effect version of the ultimate 2.5g and they have the standard A B X Y arrangement. so you dont have to wrap your head around the switch controls when using it on pc.

[@lehanderjau6269]

I’ve received my black Ultimate Bluetooth today. Bought it for my Switch, but mainly for my NVidia Shield TV. It immediately connected over Bluetooth, I could use it to control the Shield interface and play any emulators I’ve tried. Didn’t even need to update firmware. So I don’t know why most youtuber reviewers are saying that the ultimate Bluetooth doesn’t work on android devices…

[@jostar9854]

I purchased 2 of these when they first released a little while ago, and ended up returning both due to QA issues. Both units I received had mushy, sticking right bumper buttons and looking at some recent amazon reviews, this is still ongoing... it's a real shame as all other 8bitdo controllers I own are outstanding.

[@nsos28]

I love 8bitdo controllers and can't stop collecting them lol. I have the sn30pro plus, the pro 2, the ultimate bluetooth, the ultimate 2.4g, and i just ordered a ultimate c wired since they have a deal on amazon where they are $12-13. Love all the controllers I've used so far and will continue to stay updated with their product lines

[@dogboy0912]

My favorite thing about my 8bitdo is switching between several profiles with a button press for different system emulation (Nintendo vs Genesis A B buttons are swapped). My least favorite is it connects as an Xbox controller so the normal profile has my buttons swapped compared to button prompts in games and menus.

[@zachariasstarlid5365]

I have the 8bitdo ultimate C bluetoth controller for switch. It costs 30 bucks and it has a great gyro.

[@madmommy]

So, I'm sending the Amazon link for that lovely pink controller to my husband as a Christmas gift idea for me. I use Batocera on an old Macbook, but I also do a lot of PC gaming and we have a Batocera/Raspberry Pi 4 setup in our living room. This controller matches all those requirements!

[@trbdann2]

I have the black version of your favorite one as well with the dock! Loved everything about it until I realized it didn't have gyro :( got stuck on a level of BotW (emulated on PC) and had to plug in a DualShock 4, glad I kept one of those around... made me wonder why I had the 8BitDo in the first place... Also kinda dumb it didnt have Bluetooth .so no Android... but that's my fault for not checking properly. Old Dualshock4 kinda wins again? Most useful on Windows than anything for me anyway. Still love it for everything else! the dock is nice, the little charging white led strip on the bottom looks sick. very usable battery life, (ashamed that i played long enough once to deplete it). I imagine it's better latency than bluetooth? I get a lot of interference sometimes with 2.4Ghz and bluetooth devices having everything on my setup being wireless so having the wireless connection between the dock and the controller instead of in the back of my PC is probably a plus too? Never run into any trouble. So, I like it but I'm a bit annoyed that it isn't actually ''ultimate'' ... I need to keep a dualshock4 around... I should program some macros! forgot about that.

[@Vincent-yv9ng]

Great video, Russ! Would you be open to showing metric measurements alongside the imperial units when talking about things like cable length? I've noticed more and more American channels doing this and it's very helpful for us European folks.

[@w0mblemania]

Just do the conversion in your head. 3 feet is about 1 metre. It's a good skill to develop.

[@AnyBodyWannaPeanut]

Love the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny reference :)

[@AmartharDrakestone]

I got the 2.4g with the dock and it's become my daily driver. And I don't know if you're aware, but they've added limited Bluetooth support with the 2.0 firmware. Yes, to the 2.4g version.

[@Mingodough]

I hope they do Hall effect sticks for their controllers that have tha analogue sticks in the play station layout

[@ellaquin]

If you have a modded Nintendo Switch, you can actually use the Ultimate C 2.4 Ghz with the Switch as well, making it a very good controller for the price. Unfortunatly, I was unable to get the Ultimate C Wired to work, as it appears to be defaulting to dinput, and showing up as a generic HID device.

[@BuckieJr]

The repairability of these controllers are phenomenal. And case swaps, button swaps and joystick swaps are also super easy. I’ve got 2, the ultimate Bluetooth version and just the 2.4ghz (Genshin impact edition). I’ve swapped the case between the 2 and the buttons so that I get the he Xbox layout and Bluetooth with the hall effect sticks.

[@ToyKeeper]

I love my 8bitdo Pro 2... it's probably the best controller I've ever used, and it's good on both Switch and Batocera. I love the back buttons, turbo, remapping profiles, wired/wireless modes, motion control, etc. But due to a thumb injury, I'd like one with the joystick and d-pad swapped. Also, I'd like a nice controller for player 2. So I'm thinking I might upgrade to that top-tier model, and use the Pro 2 for Player 2 instead.

[@mercster]

I've had several of these. The SN30, SN30+, Pro 2 (maybe Pro 1 as well? hard to keep up with this company) and just last month I got the 2.4Ghz Ultimate for XBOX in black. The cradle is mainly why I got it... I was fine with the Pro 2, but that charging cradle is just too convenient (plus, no wear on a USB port.) Only gripe is that it has no replaceable battery like the others.

[@mercster]

I would've loved the Hall sensors, but... yeah, I'm not gonna pay $70 for a controller that I use for PC in XBOX mode and have the buttons be mislabeled. I know it's a dumb nitpick but... anyway, while Hall sensors are undoubtedly a superior technology, it's not like I expect a gamepad to be something that lasts so long that I'm handing it down to my grandchildren or something. For me the 2.4Ghz-only XBOX one just made more sense.

[@mercster]

One other note is that everyone says 2.4Ghz has less input lag than Bluetooth, but that Bluetooth is lower power so the battery lasts longer. Just additional info.

[@mercster]

Also I won't lie... part of my consideration was the color. While I am a shut-in and I don't care what anyone ELSE thinks, there's just no way I wanna be looking at those goofy pale pastel colored controllers. 😂

[@cargath]

Thank you for pointing out that the Ultimate does wake the Switch from sleep - this is a feature i've been wanting from 8BitDo controllers for years. I wish it was available on the SN30 pro, but i'll take it.

[@Mokkatomic]

Ended up with the wired ultimate. Originally I went with the 2 4ghz, but it turned out to only poll at 120-125hz. Pretty bad compared to 200hz on the BT and 250hz on the wired. I like the shorter cord on it. Wouldn't be surprised if this purple one is stuck at 60hz or something with that 10 hour longer battery life on the same size battery

[@AnArmyOfFish]

When I need gyro on my PC the only alternative is the DS4 - works great with Steam Deck & I've previously gotten TF2 connected to control the cursor with the gyro much like splatoon. I played like that for like a week and then went back to normal but yeah the gyro works great and it still has analog triggers.

[@DaMu24]

I think that 8bitdo, during mass production, had a lot of surplus parts but not enough to completely manufacturer the most expensive Ultimate, so the cheaper variants like the C Wired and the C 2.4Ghz are a compromise of reusing existing parts. It's very unusual for controllers of high physical quality to be sold at $20, and because of this I don't expect these controllers to stay in manufacturing for much longer.

[@OmairArif]

That doesn't really make sense. The PCBs inside are different, the housings are slightly different (no back paddle cutouts and no profile button/lights), and every visible component is molded in a different color plastic compared to the original models. The only parts that directly transfer are basic components like button membranes, trigger mechanisms, and the analog sticks. None of which really justify making a new product line to use up. What's more likely is that because 8bitdo already had the good R&D done and high quality molding completed on this core design, they were able to make a premium feeling controller for cheap by greatly simplifying the electronics as much as possible and removing extras like the Dock. You don't typically see controllers of high physical quality sold at $20, because the investment to make a high physical quality controller usually doesn't make sense for a $20 target price, but when you've already made that investment on a higher priced product, it becomes practical.

[@Ricky-SC]

Been using 8bitdo a lot, my current setup is Ultimate Wireless+Bluetooth for my PC and Switch, and 8bitdo arcade for Street Fighter 6 & fighting games. Good, consistent quality, and the most important of all with controllers, good durability! Other 3rd party controllers I used only lasted a year at most before they started to drift (Yes, it's both of you, Razer, Scuff...).

[@Jayroro]

I have the Pro 2 wired controller. Seems ok but analog sticks go to 100% very quickly

[@danbooke2001]

Just FYI, the 2.4ghz model with dock has had an update and you can now use it with the Switch. It's missing features like gyro, nfc support, doesn't wake the Switch, and also can only be used in dock mode obviously since the dongle has to be plugged in. As long as you're fine with a and b being backwards (or normal for us xbox users), there's not much downside now in getting the 2.4 ghz model. It's basically the only controller I use with my Switch and Steam Deck now.

[@bland9876]

A and B are backwards? Are the labels correct or are the placement correct? If the placement is correct then that's fine pressing right for A and Down for B just like any other Switch controller is good.

[@mitchel71]

I have the ultimate with hall effect sensors, I love it. Its the only controller I use on my pc anymore. I have an sn30 pro for switch. I've had a few 8bitdo controllers and have never had an issue with them

[@MunitionsDudTester]

You can now get the 2.4G wireless with dock and hall effect sticks for the same $50 price tag. W

[@nerdyrockcomics5428]

Glad you did this. I'm really curious about these

[@tyzerro]

and just like that, one t-shirt tells me so much more about Russ than just he enjoys retro gaming

[@Pedro-do-Canada]

It was sooo hard to decide which one to buy, so thank you for this! Just got the 2.4g one from Amazon on Prime Big Deal day here in Canada for $55 ($41 USD) 😀

[@jessiewhiley1490]

Bought the SN30 fot my Deck. Its so awesome. And fits in the JSeaux case perfectly.

[@NiKE-2002]

I'm using the Ultimate Bluetooth wireless with my XSX, thanks to an adapter, and it works almost perfectly (the home button works a bit different). It is the Mayflash Magic-X, which works better than the Brook Wingman XB as the one from Brook has problems with analogue stick sensitivity.

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

Have had the Ultimate BT+2.4Ghz since it's release and love it.

[@nickuhland7148]

I bought an 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth controller a year ago thinking it would be the end of my controller struggles, but I was so wrong. The ergonomics are laughably bad. The handles have such a narrow spread that they are basically parallel to each other. Compared to an Xbox One controller, which is closer to 45 degrees, the difference is enormous. Just to grip this controller, I have to keep my wrists angled up in an uncomfortable position. When I play with my 8bitdo controller for even a few minutes, it feels like I'm getting carpal tunnel. The triggers have too short of a radius and the bumpers are placed too far up so they are awkward to reach. I love the software and the back buttons, but this controller hurts to use and if that's true, then it doesn't really matter. If this controller had a wider spread angle for its handles and better triggers/bumpers, it would be the best controller of all time. Instead, it collects dust on my shelf.

[@SuperpopeGaming]

Reppin' the greatest band of all time. Respect!

[@father042]

I have had black SN30 Pro+ for over 2 years now and it has beenmy default choice for PSX and other retro games

[@Mr.Gottfried]

I don't mind common controlling sticks, when I have the option to buy them as a spare part and just solder in new ones. I don't want a $ 50 product to potentially stop working after 100 hours of use.

[@heavenly2k]

Dude. I LOVE YOUR SHIRT . Did not expect that ❤

[@spiritualastralsoul]

As much as I love all the 8bitdo controllers (and I own a good amount), I really wish there was a 2.4Ghz controller with symmetrical analog sticks. I thought something liike the 8Bitdo Pro 2 with a USB 2.4 dongle would be great.

[@cosmic_drew]

Love the mewithoutyou shirt. I hung out with them after a show in 2007 in Little Rock. Amazing guys.

[@XtianApi]

Also 2.4g works in d input which Bluetooth version does not have, so it does work on Odin 2 with dock or dongle plugged in, in my experience. Also yeah, sn30 seems to do everything. All features, which oddly ultimate does not. Edit: rewritten several times

[@TheChameleon2008]

But he said that the 2.4gz connects to android with bluetooth.....

[@bigbadjojo4863]

when using a dongle with another dongle put an extinction usb cable between them, the radio interference can mess the connections up.

[@prince_warhero]

Ultimate is the best one for me. Comes with dock+dongle for 2.4ghz for pc and Bluetooth for all other devices. Great battery life , very ergonomic comfortable and solid build quality with hall effect sticks

[@GRIMEYtheFATMAN]

I wanted to love my Ultimate Wired Xbox controller, but the left stick wore out to a point where the deadzone had to be set to 78% to restore full range in-game in just over a month. Granted, I acknowledge that I do play a LOT more than average, being an anti-social hermit working from home, and mostly racing games, but come on! A month!?! Also, it wasn't the inside of the stick travel that wore out - it was the OUTSIDE! This is why my next Xbox controller purchase will be the GameSir G7 SE, but if 8BitDo puts the sticks from the Switch controller in the Xbox model, I would give it a shot, because stick wear aside, I LOVED how it felt...

[@MichaelCaruso13]

Retro Game Corps is like the only channel I like before I even watch the video. I might as well get it over with because I know I'm gonna

[@ErnestJay88]

The one and only "Ultimate" controller is Bluetooth Controller with Dock + Hall Magnetic because it's compatible with everything (Xbox series X needs another 3rd party dongle)

[@OmairArif]

It's not though. Over Bluetooth it only acts as a Switch controller, and over 2.4G it acts as a Switch or X-input controller. The "Ultimate 2.4G" (the pink one in the video) can do X-input, D-input, or Switch (no gyro) over 2.4G, and has official iOS support over Bluetooth. Compatibility wise all the Ultimate controllers are worse than 8bitdo's older controllers.

[@rahatadnaan]

Thanks for covering every little details. Really grateful.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

I wish the colours were available for every model. I'd like to be able buy the "Switch Pro controller replacement" in green.

[@death2abrahamism]

Your favorite controller is only missing the ability to go bluetooth while in x-input mode.

[@middle_pickup]

Bought the xbox wired one a few weeks ago. Really enjoying it for both retro and modern games. The added back buttons are kinda cool for a few games too.

[@ariathyf144]

Concept idea: Replace the left stick with the great 8bitDo M30 D-pad and add 2 extra buttons on the right side. This will make a awesome layout for classic games, retro fighting games and "x360 layout" friendly modern ones.

[@pedroferreira8623]

Love the new pastel colors. I'm thinking of getting both pastel colors for my living room

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Thanks so much. My friend wants to get into gaming on a budget and I know 8bitdo is a good brand but I only have first party controllers (and a Logitech F310 which I wouldn't recommend)

[@snowmean1]

My recent experience with Ultimate C 2.4GHz controller was very sketchy. It seems like the timeout there is quite short, so I had this controller often switched off during the cut-scenes. I checked reddit, and found multiple similar issues with no fix, so I just returned it. And that's pity, because controller itself nicely done for the price.

[@rodolfoalvim]

should feature 6 face buttons (withhout compromise right analog stick) to be consdered such as an "ultmate" contrller

[@jarnobot]

I love 8BitDo's controller, but I really wish they didn't ditch the user-removable AA-compatible batteries on their wireless Ultimate controllers. Kind of a deal breaker to me. I'm still considering a wired Ultimate or Ultimate C though

[@samaeltheangelofdeath]

Look at that pillow! You are just so aesthetic.

[@ikissfutebol12]

Love 8bitdo. The dealbreaker on so many controllers for me is non-replaceable batteries. The Pro 2 checks that box. Just wish we would get a Pro 3 with Hall effect sticks. Mine doesn’t have drift (yet), but when it will continue to last…just a matter of time. I do have a Zero 2 and Arcade stick (and wireless Sega Classic) which all have rechargeable batteries. I just don’t use them as much as the Pro 2.

[@MrNotgoth]

I have the Ultimate Wireless ($70 one) and it’s the best controller I have right now, even better than the Elite 2. The stand out features are the dock, wonderful-feeling dpad, back buttons, and the ease of use to reprogram settings via the iOS app. I get the confusion calling it “Ultimate” if it can’t switch between XBox/Switch, but it’s “Ultimate” going between the Switch and PC.

[@borf42]

A very nice and comprehensive review and test. Thanks! I do love my 8bitdo controllers. :)