Did 8bitdo make a better Pro Controller than Nintendo?

[@flitterbee]

8bitdo made the Lite SE recently, finally being the first controller I've ever used that allows me to actually have access to all the buttons I need as a one-handed gamer. No other big name controller company has ever cared as much for the disabled gaming community as 8bitdo.

[@user-uv8kw9nd2e]

Good to hear. I'm happy for you 👍🏻👍🏻❤️

[@Oyebadumn]

Xbox created a controller that is insanely customizable for the disabled gaming community. It's like a flat slab with 20+ headphone jacks to customize how you could setup your buttons.

[@JmKrokY]

@@Oyebadumn ye

[@PhaythGaming]

@@Oyebadumncost effects accessibility unfortunately.

[@unbreakablealex2732]

Have you tried the 3d print one hand mods for ps or Xbox controllers? I’m sure you’ll find them via google.

[@acoupleofschoes]

Couple of things missed here: As a lot have already pointed out, the base has USB pass-through for the dongle. More importantly, only the Bluetooth version has Hall Effect joysticks. The 2.4Ghz version has traditional potentiometer joysticks. Also the 2.4Ghz versions is available in pink, but the Bluetooth version is not.

[@akashmakkar7187]

And also hall effect triggers. Those don't crap out as easily, but hey, good to have nonetheless. Now, I do feel like Gulikit KingKong Pro 2 does it better with its easily replaceable and 50 million click rated face buttons, but it lacks the back buttons. Shoulder buttons are now the part that's most prone to failing in both these controllers especially with a game like Rocket League.

[@YounesLayachi]

Good to know, so the Bt model is superior in many ways. I wonder about the price difference, that wasn't mentioned

[@h_x_h]

@@YounesLayachi pretty sure the price difference is $20 going from $50 for the non-Bluetooth to $70 with Bluetooth and the upgraded sticks.

[@YounesLayachi]

@@h_x_h you're right, wow... I didn't think the difference would be so large, or that the 2.4 GHz model is same price as the Pro 2 Bluetooth. Meanwhile the wired pro 2 is 35$, ie the price jump from wired to bluetooth pro 2 is smaller than the jump from wireless to bluetooth ultimate

[@epy0nkaru]

if the base has 2.4ghz passthrough then that's amazing, totally worth it for the price: leave it docked on either machine to charge and then switch to BT mode whenever you want to.

[@gweeds2206]

I believe the storage in the dock also acts as a passthrough, so if you plug the dock into your switch it’ll pick up the dongle

[@elwinroyale]

Correct

[@talamidori2115]

I have a Bluetooth ultimate myself, and this is correct, the the charging dock is essentially a USB hub with a single port, for the dongle.

[@burhanuddinfadhli2480]

So is it safe to charge the controller from dock's USB port?

[@burhanuddinfadhli2480]

I read that when in Dongle mode u cant use the gyro, is it true?

[@matt5080]

Wow I didn't know this! It is able to wake the Switch in 2.4G mode using the home button now without doing that silly shake you had to do in Bluetooth mode, thanks for the tip!

[@Jesse-nl3qu]

Something to note, Gulikit is the one manufacturing the hall effect sensors for this controller. So it's the same stick as the one in the Gulikit controller

[@auralynn3862]

Yeah, thankfully it should be 8BD running QA testing.

[@renatonog1978]

Is this for both models, or only the bluetooth model?

[@auralynn3862]

@@renatonog1978 *Sigh*... Bluetooth only, disappointingly... And then only the 2.4 comes in pink!!!

[@renatonog1978]

@@auralynn3862 well, I hope it's good anyway. I was in doubt about Gulikit, but as I only play on PC I chose 8Bitdo Ultimate 2.4 ghz (and also for the xbox buttons). And yes, PINK lol.

[@auralynn3862]

@@renatonog1978 jelly Anyway, it's 8BD. Even with pots they're solid

[@NexVoidGaming]

I really appreciate how cinematic you make these reviews. All the little clips you make for these must take FOREVER! Hats off.

[@akashmakkar7187]

The lighting setup is also pretty good! Impressive. Not everyone puts in the effort.

[@PsypherWolf]

The drift that happens occasionally is a sign that it has low battery, the light on top starts blinking red. Charging it fixes it, it has happened to me more than once.

[@harrydsgn]

I’ve felt a big difference in input times and stability between the Bluetooth on my Pro 2 and the Ultimate 2.4Ghz. Absolutely love that they added that as a connection method, I only use this controller with my Switch anyway so I just keep the dongle plugged in.

[@valhallasashes4354]

"I’ve felt a big difference in input times and stability between the Bluetooth on my Pro 2 and the Ultimate 2.4Ghz." - In favor of which? Which one was better? "Absolutely love that they added that as a connection method, I only use this controller with my Switch anyway so I just keep the dongle plugged in." - Didn't Wulff just say this controller only works in Bluetooth mode on Switch? So what benefit does it provide to plug the 2.4Ghz dongle into the Switch? Or did Wullf get it wrong?

[@YounesLayachi]

If you keep the dongle inside the charging dock, and plug the dock to the switch dock, then the dongle will work as if it's plugged to the switch dock

[@valhallasashes4354]

@@YounesLayachi In what context? Will the controller work in 2.4Ghz mode if the dongle is in the controller dock when connected via USB to the Switch Dock? Is this somehow different from plugging dongle directly into the Switch dock, because in theory the USB connection from the dock to dock, should just be a "pass-through". So in theory, it shouldn't matter. Or is there a difference I'm not aware of. I need context. Does the 2.4Ghz mode that Wulff claims does not work on Switch, actually work? And if it does work, does it work when the dongle is directly plugged into the Switch dock, or does it need to plugged into the controller dock and then the controller dock plugged into Switch.

[@Newspeak.]

@@valhallasashes4354 The switch version of this controller works in either bluetooth or 2.4 mode with the switch but doesn't have D or X mode so it won't work with stuff that needs that.

[@YounesLayachi]

@@valhallasashes4354 you can choose 2.4 GHz or Bluetooth. If you choose 2.4 GHz mode, then you don't need to plug the dongle into the switch, that's all I'm saying.

[@viktorgvj1333]

I think it's cool that if you leave the dongle inside the dock and connect the dock to the switch or PC, you can still use the 2.4gh mode. Simply described, the dongle works inside the dock and i really like that function

[@Left4Cake]

I also love the ingenuity of it since it literally is just a pass throu for the dongle.

[@Hathos9]

The controller has 1 massive flaw that previous 8bitdo controllers also had. You cannot use gyro and vibration at the same time. When the controller vibrates, the gyro goes haywire. The Switch Pro Controller does not have this issue. This makes the 8bitdo Ultimate unusable for me in Monster Hunter Rise on Switch, for example.

[@mndrgs]

Is this an issue on Pro 2 as well?

[@Hathos9]

@@mndrgs Yes, I can confirm. Because of the issue, I only used my Pro 2 for PC games, and it looks like my Ultimate controller will share the same fate. This is unfortunate, because I otherwise like the controller, but Monster Hunter Rise is my most played Switch game with 600ish hours. I imagine that this makes the controller a deal-breaker for other games that utilize motion, such as possibly Splatoon, unless you are willing to turn of vibration. I can't in Monster Hunter since vibration indicates charge levels on weapons, such as Bow. Nor would I want to turn vibration off, since it generally enhances the experience.

[@notvictorc]

I turned down vibration on mine all the way down to 1

[@valentds]

@@Hathos9 i can't play games without vibration (except those without a vibration built in obviously) but i not use motion too much. sucks there's no option tho

[@Pysnpai]

Whaaaaaaat??? I wonder if the vibration can me lower and the gyro sensors repositioned away from the vibrators

[@baldlyrudy]

Just a heads up. The 2.4G version of the 8BitDo Ultimate Controller doesn't have the Hall Effect joysticks. It uses ALPS. The Hall Effect Joysticks is only on the Bluetooth model. Also, the 2.4Ghz dongle has a passthrough effect when it's plugged into the dock, so you can just connect it to the Switch dock and you're good to go. The gyro works pretty well on it, too. It's a smudge slower than the Pro Controller, but not by much.

[@TheLuckster]

I've heard that you can't use gyro while also using rumble? Like, it causes the gyro to act weird Have you experienced that?

[@baldlyrudy]

@@TheLuckster I haven't experienced that. The little bit of Splatoon 3 that I played using gyro didn't really have too much of an effect when rumble feedback was going off.

[@TheLuckster]

@@baldlyrudy Interesting, I wonder if that is a fault in some models

[@r1pperduck]

What do you mean slower? Like input lag?

[@baldlyrudy]

@@r1pperduck yes. There's a bit of lag with the gyro in comparison to the Switch Pro Controller.

[@carsoncurley9532]

As far as analog triggers go, with some racing games like GRID, you can put accelerate and brake on the right stick to give analog inputs and then “switch right stick with triggers” in the ultimate app to get analog function out of the triggers. Pretty nifty way to be able to get racing sims to be playable on switch.

[@nouche]

The need this solves for me is easily switching back and forth between Switch and PC whilst only having one controller on my desk. And I’m used to Nintendo style buttons. I might even do the heresy of using hair triggers. At least on the Switch.

[@mkbest]

In some other video I heard that the dock can passthrough the dongle connection, so you can connect the whole dock with the dongle inside to your Switch dock, and use the dongle that way.

[@Dracossaint]

Someone commented that on retrogamecorps video. Maybe there?

[@llibertyGamer]

@@Dracossaint Blunty mentioned it during his review too.

[@Dracossaint]

@@llibertyGamer Thank ya

[@lyoozero]

Thank you for this comment, I did not expect them to do something so convenient.

[@burhanuddinfadhli2480]

I read somewhere that when in Dongle mode u cant use gyro, is it true?

[@kevinlivingston8947]

I got this controller so I didn't need 2 different controllers on my desk for my Switch and PC. One of the best purchases I've made in a while. The customization through software and paddles on the back are nice touch and didn't think I'd use them as much as I ended up doing. Being able to switch control between my PC and Switch by just flipping a switch (lots of 'switches') is amazing! Overall, I'm very satisfied and would recommend it to anyone in the same situation.

[@RzariRzari]

How is it working after a while? Is there any loseness or something wrong with moving elements?

[@kevinlivingston8947]

@@RzariRzari feels good so far. That convenience is amazing

[@RzariRzari]

@@kevinlivingston8947 Thanks for answer. Planning to buy this controller and I'm happy it works great after few months :)

[@Bajso84]

You dont have to pick out the dongle to use it. The compartment inside the dock is a working usb port. Simply connect the Charging dock to the Switch dock for power and you should be good to go using 2.4g aswell. Atleast this is how it works on PC. Also, you can wake the system remotely with this by shaking it.

[@alexnicolaou3579]

does that also give you the 2.4g quicker rate/conection as well?

[@Bajso84]

@@alexnicolaou3579 My experience is that the 2.4g mode is somewhat slower than the bluetooth connection, because the input has to go through the switch wired port. But it should have better range. Also, you cannot wake the console with the controller if its set to 2.4g Ive been using the Bluetooth mostly, but the dock is really nice for charging.

[@HaikuOezu]

I absolutely lost it when I found out the wake from sleep thing, it's so cute

[@morterox2]

Mind blowing! Thanks!

[@christopherheap9625]

Since discovering Bob’s channel a few years ago he has single handily changed my Switch gaming experience. Introduced me to accessories and controllers I may never would found or even known about. Thanks Bob for all your hard work! 👍🏼 Had my eye on this controller as a alternative to my Pro pad since it was announced by 8bitdo… may just pluck for the preorder

[@minifluff201]

Almost every video about this controller understandably miss that the dock actually has a USB passthrough to the dongle. You can just hook up the dock to your PC or Switch to use the 2.4ghz

[@thedecembomber]

Really so you can have 2.4 on both setups? That’s awesome

[@TAmzid2872]

@@thedecembomber wait so you mean when the dongle is in the dock and the dock is connected to the switch the dongle will work though the dock into the switch?

[@minifluff201]

@@TAmzid2872 Yes that is what I'm saying.

[@unrivaled_trigger]

Thats incredible! Thanks for the info mate!

[@Autotrope]

All the reviews I saw before this one did point it out

[@Okla_Soft]

as I sat here playing Pokemon at 4 am with my 8bitdo ultimate wireless controller, i agreed with every point you made here. I can't believe i didn't realize the 2.4 GHz dongle was in there!! now I can play PC and switch without having to reconnect Bluetooth every time. fantastic video

[@GeorgeMcF]

Bobs comedic timing is what I really watch the ads for

[@TheLukas144]

Couldn't agree more - also his sassy clones

[@Bushidounohana]

I’ve always said that Bob does the best sponsor spots on KZbin. Even when the content isn’t apropos to me, I still like to peep the sponsor spot for the sheer entertainment value.

[@Bushidounohana]

@@CGx91 welcome to Tech KZbin. Are you new here?

[@MrMark1]

I skip them. Not paying for premium to watch ads

[@Bushidounohana]

@@CGx91 perhaps ironically, participating in this conversation does just that, doesn’t it? Even your own trolling props up the very medium which is more or less founded on the consumerism you suppose to critique (whether it be through outright ads or more journalistic reviews), with every comment increasing engagement and amplifying the potential reach of the video. All the better that it’s a conflict, feeding into the strengths of how the platform (and social media in general) works. I suppose it’s one thing to submit to participation in the greater consumerism machine with awareness of one’s actions and the resulting impact, but to ignorantly contribute under the guise of some misappropriated sense of superiority seems the greater sin of ignorance so far as I’m concerned. To be called a clown is not an insult when one is aware of their folly, but how does it feel to be a clown unwittingly?🤡🤡🤡

[@moviegametime3891]

I definitively am going to pick up this controller. I've been looking for an alternative to the official Pro controller that has back buttons PLUS vibration and that is wireless. And this one seems to fit the bill just nicely.

[@Rockman64x]

Did you like the controller? I am looking at options to buy one and this seems like a good option to the Nintendo pro controller

[@lancemartinez1130]

​@@Rockman64xthere's no reason to buy it over an official pro controller unless that dpad is killing you on the official one but if you want a good dpad get the pro 2 or an sn 30

[@JohnnyWin]

I recently got the 8bitdo Ultimate Controller after my Pro Controller started drifting. I think the controller is a solid controller. I love the charging dock. The only downside is lack of amiibo scanning. However, having hall sensing sticks was a good trade off.

[@I_was_a_Bullfrog]

The GuliKit controller has NFC. Both are good controllers. I'm thinking about picking up the 8bitdo controller too

[@kinglagg]

Hey, may i know how is the condition of the controller so far?

[@lukemorrison4791]

I need help. I don’t know if to buy the Nintendo switch pro or 8bitdo controller. I’m looking at video but still undecided.

[@Moshugaani]

I use the 8bitdo Pro 2 on my SNES console! The d-pad in my old SNES controllers were kinda worn down and I couldn't find good replacement membranes. Plus the 8bitdo Pro 2 is more comfortable to hold than the original controller AND it's wireless to boot! The d-pad is outstanding! Soft to the touch but accurate.

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

The only thing I would miss about the ultimate controller is the easily accessible battery

[@maybebutwhatever]

This and way more device profiles.

[@ChillinWithTheCapuchins]

Finally a controller with Hall Effect Sensing joysticks AND rear buttons. Gullikit came so close, but this one seems like it may finally ben an answer to all my controller issues.

[@Kade503]

This one was a pretty easy buy for me since I only play PC and Switch, have a Pro 2, but no asymetrical controller since Switch Pro I did have started to have drifting issues. So, I was waiting for decent price drop on a Pro controller until I heard about this one with all extras of the Pro 2 and Hall Effect sticks... I should mention that I don't care at all about rumble or gyro. I do care about having remappable and back buttons because I can't stand using L3 and R3 personally. So, I love that the buttons on the back feel even better than the Pro 2.

[@SniXXy07]

Bought this gamepad on Amazon. And, unfortunately, I found a defect on the left stick. When I moved it all the way to the left, it felt like it was slightly clinging to something. As it turned out, the problem is very simple to solve. Take apart the gamepad, remove the stick head and put it back upside down. On the inside of the stick head there are micro-increments on one side that create this effect. Most likely it was just put upside down during assembly. Otherwise, there are no complaints to the device at all. The gamepad is awesome.

[@Aloiv]

Fun little thing to note if you’re using the USB Dongle (though, this applies to any USB Controller for Switch). If you’ve ever tried using BT Headphones with The Joycons or Pro Controller wireless, you’ve probably noticed that in addition to some real rough sound quality, the latency gets dramatically worse over time. However, using the 2.4ghz mode on this controller, because it’s freed up BT bandwidth, those latency issues are severely reduced. While it doesn’t really improve on the sound quality itself, it’s considerably more bearable when I don’t see people’s mouths move two seconds before hearing anything at all. So yeah, that in addition to every other awesome feature with this controller, it’s fantastic.

[@Namrenih]

Thanks for the review! I enjoy having a collection of 8bitdo controllers for when I have a large group over playing 4v4 Killer Queen Black or now the new Mario Strikers 4v4. So having a collection of 8+ controllers can get tricky but fun to have variations of stuff. Love what you do!

[@gregmasciola3332]

I decided to grab the 2.4gh model. I needed a controller just for my PC, which doesn't have Bluetooth. Works great so far. I like that you can keep the dongle in the dock and just plug the dock into the computer.

[@Zepherl01]

PC Gamer here. Had a Xbox Elite Series 2, the shoulder button died. Sent it in for repairs, it died again. Warranty was out. Bought a DualSense, it got stick drift. I bought a 8bitdo years ago for my Switch so I thought getting this new one would be a nice replacement. I like the build quality of 8bitdo controllers, but the form factor of them would always hurt my hands after long play sessions. This one looking more like an Xbox/Switch Pro controller, while coming from 8bitdo who I've never had problems with, along with the Hall sensor is enticing

[@parker838]

I feel like this is a great controller for me to upgrade for my switch. I have a power A wireless port controller and I can tell it's cheap. It does the job, but I think it would be worth it to upgrade to this one based on the better build quality and features it has. Good video Bob.

[@StuCheeks]

Always love your videos. My Pro controller is finally wearing down a bit, so I've been considering this 8bitdo Ultimate. I ordered the Bluetooth version with your link. GG!

[@angelrobles013]

Although this controller is marketed towards Nintendo switch, I've managed to connect it to my ps4 pro and have been using it ever since and I don't see any input delay so far.

[@DavidChurcheese]

THE DRIFT ! THE FING DRIFT ! That alone makes it a better controller than the official Nintendo stuff.

[@ethel72]

This was such a fantastic video. I came in wanting to buy one of these, but you definitely got me thinking more critically about whether I would actually use it. I hope the move is going well and I can’t wait to see the new stream setup!

[@zkatt3238]

The 2.4gHz model doesn't have Hall Effect sensors either to my knowledge.

[@lijahgil]

I really hope they put trigger stops on future controllers. Id also love to see the hall effect sensors on a pro 3 controller.

[@Milo-l4g]

Just bought it replace a wired off-brand controller I've been using for a couple of years. I'm pretty excited for it

[@MrBurnthetrees]

I really wish 8bitdo would make a more comfortable joy con already.

[@sneakingelephant]

That 8bitdo controller is the dpad in the snes position is my fav for 2d games. The ultimate is my fav for everything else. Those back buttons are soooo clutch for tons of games (especially shooters and character action games)

[@Kevintendo]

Isn’t it “8-Bit Doe” like “Nin-Ten-Doe”?? 1:06

[@blue-cloud-studios]

No it's 8bitdo like Scooby Doo the company confirmed it...twice

[@Kevintendo]

@@blue-cloud-studios Ahh okay! I looked it up and found a reddit post that did a survey and deep dive lol Supposedly when the company was small it originally was pronounced like Nintendo. But as it got bigger, PR has changed the pronunciation to avoid copyright. So you're right! But I'm gonna mispronounce it cuz I like it better as doe haha

[@moderusprime]

@@blue-cloud-studios Yes, it's like NintenDO.

[@moderusprime]

@@Kevintendo It's pronounced like NintenDO. Nintendo can't sue over a vowel sound. They can "claim" it's "due" all they want, but it's "DOE".

[@blue-cloud-studios]

@@moderusprime if the company says it's 8bitDOO why the fu- are people arguing against it they clearly want it to be 8bitDOO probably cause they don't only want to be associated with Nintendo but other companies like Xbox

[@PercyPanleo]

fun fact about the dock: The spot inside the dock for the dongle is actually a functioning USB 2.0 port that gets passed through to whatever the dock is plugged into

[@MrMoon-hy6pn]

This at least looks like it solves all my issues with the pro controller. I go between my pc and switch fairly frequently and re-syncing is becoming a huge pain so having an easy toggle between them would be awesome. Having hall effect sensors would be really cool because my pro controller has been having weird drift issues and the d-pad is borderline unusable in 2d games even after applying some "fixes" to it. Also having support for features like gyro is definitely a plus. So it is tempting.

[@mindlessinfinite]

yo i woke up today wishing there was a switch controller with paddles.. bam your video gets recommended to me

[@hugolink6459]

I really like 8bitdo products, and I also like wulff den reviews. But this time I'm a little bit surprised he didn't talk about (or maybe I missed it) gyro, rumble, and nfc compared to a pro controller. Edit : also is it possible to use it as a wired controller ? Edit 2 : It seems it is also available in pink, that looks super good

[@johntheslider5802]

The pink is only for the dongle only version. I'm not really sure why.

[@ligerdrag20]

@@johntheslider5802 Neither am I, I would absolutely love to purchase that pink controller, but I only tend to use my 8bitdo stuff for switch. I'm a bit bummed.

[@johntheslider5802]

@@ligerdrag20 Yeah. I'm hoping they'll release an option for the bluetooth version. And maybe add some other colors too?

[@coolbean9880]

​@@johntheslider5802 another option would be hoping this thing gets as rich of a modding scene as the normal pro controller so i can just buy aftermarket shells (and hopefully buttons) for it in any color, maybe even some transparent ones

[@HarmonicWave]

Yeah, HD rumble is one of the main reasons I use official controllers for Switch. I have an SNES style 8bitdo controller that I really like, looks exactly like an original SNES controller.

[@Anna_Rae]

I gave it to my best friend as a gift and she loves it on PC. She has a lot of hand pain, so she’s VERY picky about which controllers feel nice. This one is by far the comfiest controller she’s ever used that also has 2 paddles (she needs 2 paddles desperately). She also really loves the charging dock, it’s much easier to remember to charge the thing with it there, and switching between her PC and switch is seamless.

[@HK_on_YT]

The Xbox Adaptive Controller has many options if there is pain or mobility issues. She could even use foot pedals.

[@tato-chip7612]

I have this controller and i have to say its great but you _must_ set a deadzone. Hall effect sticks are so precise that they might sit in a 0.0002 location and cause drift. Said drift is not caused by the controllers being worn out but rather precision

[@Washington_Marques]

how to do this?

[@Lego_Fish]

​@@Washington_Marques You can set the deadzone in the 8bitdo software, although if you for example use Steam Input, it already adds Deadzone by default. My recommendation would be to set a preffered deadzone in the app (it saves to the controller) and disable or set smaller deadzone in steam.

[@louisdellalucca8969]

The thing I love most about this is that it’s able to wake the Switch! When you take it off the dock, a slight shake will wake up the console!

[@fryke]

I'm quite content with the official Nintendo Pro controller. Should it develop stick-drift in 4-5 years' time (I'm a rather casual gamer), I'd certainly buy the 8BitDo one featured here. Had it been available back when I bought my Nintendo Pro controller, I'd have bought it instead.

[@Electron86]

Ill definitely keep this controller in mind the next time im in need of a solid controller.

[@onatgz]

one more thing with the dock and the dongle: if the dongle is connected to the dock, you can use the 2.4ghz mode on a device that the dock is connected to. it acts as a usb pass-through. so rather than the signal going through your desk and case and whatnot, it just goes to the dock, which is probably sitting on your desk, near the monitor. great feature for pc.

[@Kermoedi77]

My hope for everyone is that they know what it's like to be loved as much as Bob loves clicky buttons. That is a pure, true love. :)

[@andrewvoorhies7651]

I’m definitely tempted by this controller. I want a wireless controller, but I’m drawn to the 8bitdo because of the dock, the Hall effect joysticks, the battery life, macros, and the price. If anyone finds a better deal on a wireless Hall effect docking controller, let me know lol. Thanks for the vid, I’ve been waiting for more channels I trust to cover the controller

[@stefanjakobsen6038]

There is no better deal than this trust me I just played with it 12 hours straight and it's the best controller I have ever had for this price

[@THEpicND]

This is the best product out that fits your requirements

[@stefanjakobsen6038]

@@THEpicND the paddles are amazing! I will wait to buy God Of War Ragnerok until I can buy a Duelsense Edge for my PS5 this controller is amazing on pc and Switch

[@countlitmogaphil392]

Bob, ur so close to 1 million, I legit cant believe it... I've seen you grow for so long... you're my favourite switch youtuber. Here's to waiting for your videos every week for many many more moons 🍻

[@green8923]

Just a bit of production feedback: It seems that your noise gate is set a bit too high when you're in the dark room with the white light. I understand that it's being used to reduce the amount of reverb we hear, but it is set high enough that it is grabbing some of the words you're not saying as loud.

[@leopies6032]

I noticed this too. Kinda ruined the video for me.

[@ethylg7572]

Yeah, it sounds really weird. I couldn’t quite pinpoint why, so thanks for your analysis of it, too.

[@thinkublu]

​@@leopies6032 it's definitely not video ruining lol

[@Level1Sword]

It's interesting whenever people compare Bluetooth and 2.4Ghz. Bluetooth is 2.4Ghz, specifically the 2.45 part of the band. Which is why I don't understand why Bluetooth has more input lag...

[@30livesshow]

I'd be curious to know more about the gyro performance on this controller. I have a Gulikit King Kong and it's great for a bunch of games, but been playing Splatoon 3 recetnly and it's Gyro is *fine* but not on par with the pro controller or joycons at all, so with my first party pro-controller certainly on it's final days I'm trying to look at all my options, but this thing would need 1:1 quality gyro with the first party controller for me to consider it right now

[@HK_on_YT]

Try the Binbok RGB controller. Its gyro is even better than the gyro of the Joy-Cons or the Pro Controller. It has 2 back buttons, turbo, and higher quality thumbsticks than the Pro Controller. It's currently the best controller for Splatoon 3.

[@raventalon]

im very tempted on this controller for one main reason: the plus & minus button location. i hate where they are on a pro controller , & it wont let you remap those buttons elsewhere. maybe you can but i could not figure it out! anyways i got tiny hands. the location of the plus & minus buttons on this controller have me loving it

[@gamergod9182]

it's important to note that only the Switch version has gyro, so for anyone who wants to use motion controls on their emulators, do not make the mistake of getting the cheaper one.

[@leoforzeth]

The cheaper one also doesn't have Hal sensor sticks, which is kind of the selling point.

[@blue-cloud-studios]

Well for me I'm just going to map the motion controls to the back buttons

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@blue-cloud-studiosHow tf would that work for anything besides like Zelda shrine puzzles lmfao

[@blue-cloud-studios]

@@IceBlueLugia it works man 🤷‍♂️ so...

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@blue-cloud-studios Works for what? I’m legitimately curious. If it works for simple stuff like that then whatever but if you’re able to get it working in any meaningful capacity, please tell me, it’d be very useful

[@probably_afk]

I am the person this was made for. Had the Pro Controller since launce - Hated the D-Pad since launce. Also the grips become loose and once they start moving a bit, I can't "not" twist them while using it. Always wanted an 8bitdo but hated the alt layout (I don't like the PS style of dual joysticks at the bottom). This thing retaining the official layout, giving me the functional D-Pad, and a charging stand.. the literally only thing it doesn't have is the NFC reader but meh.. it's a rarely used feature. It really became obvious how bad the official pro controller was once I started using my XBOX Elite 2 as my primary PC controller.. omg that thing is a joy to hold.. Now I can and will have both.

[@Yukeena]

What pisses me off about the pro controller is that it costs so much and they can't even fix the fucking Dpad. Even when I bought the Xenoblade 2 version because I heard it had a better Dpad, I still had problems with it. When I try pressing down on the dpad it goes to the right instead, so I have to press it just right every time which is almost impossible during very hardcore gaming sessions where you have to press on the dpad fast and precisely. I'm definitely getting this controller. Fuck Nintendo for charging so much for their controllers but don't want to fix the dpad.

[@Repsahj]

DOBE controllers are also durable. Mine is 3 years old already and still working perfectly fine. And the price is very affordable too.

[@explawsion]

I have no idea how u stretched the video out to 15 mins, and yet there's still zero mention of the rumble. Come on.

[@Danodan94]

The two biggest issues I've come across with third-party controllers are motion control and vibration. I have never found a third-party controller that has rumble as good as the first-party pro controller. In fact, most of them don't have any sort of rumble at all! I need to know this thing's rumble capabilities before I make my purchase.

[@Halz0holic]

I have switch and 0 Nintendo pro controllers. I wanted to save some money and went for 8bitdo Pro. Instantly fell in love. I then got Pro 2 and Ultimate on release. I'm planning to get the 2nd Ultimate. I have put my Pro and Pro 2 through some heavy use and there is no sign of wear. These controllers work with literally everything and comfy to use. Fun fact: if you connect Ultimate dock via USB C to your PC it will also connect 2.4G dongle plugged inside the base. It's a working USB connection.

[@olliepop369]

I loved my pro 2 when I first got it but after about a year of use, I've had to set like 20% deadzones on both sticks and even the triggers to avoid drift also after 200 hours of playing elden ring on it, the right bumper has gone completely spongey and lost its tactile clickiness after this, I dunno if I would go 8bitdo again

[@jarnobot]

I would recommend to contact their customer support. I don't have any experience with their support myself, but from what I've heard on their subreddit (/r/8bitdo) their support is very helpful and often willing to send replacement-parts.

[@olliepop369]

@@jarnobot nice thanks, I'll give that a go

[@EdisonTheFox]

I bought my SN30 Pro+ because of you. I have loved EVERYTHING about that controller! This one is certainly one I'll look at getting!

[@johnxina8268]

1:30 I see your left screen *dggL*

[@sooperspeedy]

I actually prefer the way it's done with the Xbox controllers. I like that the chargeable battery pack just slots in to where the AAs go, so if it fails over time, I can just throw some AAs in it and still be fine or buy a new battery pack and easily swap it out. I hate when rechargeable batteries are built into expensive controllers that would be a pain to disassemble and replace.

[@elijahdavison389]

If literally anyone is doubting getting this controller, get it right now it is so good. It’s one of the best controllers I’ve ever used and I am definitely going to keep this for so many years to come.

[@ghostPepperWonton]

This is my all-time favorite controller, and I know that probably no one cares, but I love my setup, so here it is: Bluetooth is paired with my Switch and 2.4Ghz is paired with my PC, so I can swap device with the switch on the back, and since I do tons of emulation on PC, I have a control profile for Xbox button layout, Nintendo button layout, and then one for GameCube too. I typically map my back-paddles to save load state. Very, very handy.

[@mkbest]

It seems that you're one of very few KZbinrs that pronounce "8bitdo" correctly. 😅

[@Cobalon]

"8BitDoo, Doh, Damn, whatever" -Scott the Woz

[@Vegasguy79]

Yup.

[@anderxale1]

He and 8bitdo are the only ones who pronounce it wrong. They also pronounce Nintendo with "doo" at the end.

[@melancholyentertainment]

@@anderxale1 The company pronounces their own name wrong? Okay lmao. It’s 8BitDo, not 8BitDoe. No one is talking about retro deer.

[@anderxale1]

@@melancholyentertainment Yes, that's the joke. They say their own company name wrong.

[@bastien-]

Smoke machine for visual effect, or humidifier for sinus issues that happened to look interesting

[@FlameLFH]

I really dislike how some companies choose to give their Pro Controllers analog triggers even though the original version never supported it. If you're playing a shooter that requires a ton of speed such as Splatoon, the extra travel time to hit ZR makes a huge difference.

[@kipschumm1849]

Got one of these recently, it’s become my go to controller for Dolphin, Yuzu, and games in the NSO classics collection

[@susanfirehead6893]

DggL?

[@Blitzwin]

I just bought one specifically for my switch; I'm so happy about it; the d pad alone is beautiful and I've needed an external controller for a while

[@Zogun_85]

I'll probably get this as my 4th controller (got the 2 joy-cons, an official Pro controller and a PowerA Bluetooth where one of the triggers just dies). It might even replace the Pro-controller as the main one IF I can justify the need for extra buttons and turbo/macro (could probably be useful for Smash) :D But how is the battery time?

[@Timrox]

any updates on that? how do you feel with it?

[@Zogun_85]

@@Timrox Never got one, but I might soon because the PowerA one is busted on both triggers :D

[@Timrox]

@@Zogun_85 I got mine 3 days ago and I'm totally in love with it, got mine for about 45€

[@byakka]

6:05 I'm gigahurt every time you say it that way

[@DeLewrh]

I love their controllers Got two Pro2, amazon accidentally sent me two!

[@gomichow]

It does say 2 in the name

[@DeLewrh]

@@gomichow Maybe they were slicker than I thought

[@fridgegaming1544]

Buying an 8bitdo ultimate w hall sensors + a steam deck for my best friend. I love both the deck and the controller - and I know bffie will too.

[@fridgegaming1544]

Update. We are dating now. Controller unrelated - but through loose statistical analysis using parameters that are not statistically significant at ALL, this controller will help u find your special someone. Probably. 💜

[@DizieNess]

@@fridgegaming1544happy for you! May yall be happy and continue gaming till yall say “I do” 🤞🏽✨

[@rhymingbecktionary]

Kind of bummed there's no option to swap out the battery pack for your own AAA batteries like with the past 8bitdo Pro controllers. I have a ton of rechargeable AA/AAA batteries so when I need a new set for my Series X or 8bitdo Pros I just swap them out with ones in the charger and don't have to worry about docking it and having a dock take up space on a desk or coffee table.

[@LRM12o8]

Yeah, swappable batteries are so much more convenient than integrated ones, I can't wrap my mind around why they're so uncommon nowadays. I have to hide a long USB-C cable between the cushions of my couch, so I can quickly plug in my Switch Pro controller and continue to play without having to fall back on the Joycons. Before I got the Pro controller I did have to quit/pause my gaming session earlier than I planned to several times, just to charge the darn controller 🤦‍♂️

[@Autotrope]

I must say I preferred your old background with the more natural lighting and all the sonic and Kirby figures behind you

[@meteorjuice4088]

1:30 dggL

[@Trevanadian]

I don't think I've seen one of your videos in a while, not sure why. Love your new filming setup, man. Clean and professional.

[@saintsrobbed6450]

dgg 4 lyfe

[@nicmoss9101]

Thank you so much for mentioning the dongle ! I have been eyeing this controller for a little bit and my computer does not have native Bluetooth. I appreciate it!

[@manja5198]

dggL everyone ❤

[@MartinBielkovic]

somebody should put up a no smoking sign in the studio, its a hazard and I advise you fire that employee

[@EvilConCarne]

DGG

[@AuxCart]

Still waiting on a Gulikit v 8bitdU showdown!

[@4horsemenoftheapocalypse58]

It's not hard to out do Nintendo

[@soccerz222]

Idk when it comes to controllers I rarely see a controller that is actually better than official pro controllers. For generations too, gamecube, wii, and wii u first party controllers are hard to beat.

[@Droogie128]

@@soccerz222 The official pro controller has that terrible d pad, and no customization options. Nintendo kind of dropped the ball on it for the money.

[@YounesLayachi]

GameCube is hard to beat but others are whatever

[@markus1351]

@@Droogie128 you know there are 2 versions of the pro controller? one with a better DPad? the pro controller is hands down one of the best controllers available

[@Droogie128]

@@markus1351 no there aren't. The "updated" dpad is supposedly on the Xenoblade controller. I own it. False inputs that can be fixed with the scotch tape mod, just like the regular one. The dpad is terrible even with the fix, though. Feels horrible. Especially from the company that invented the dpad. The snes dpad is the best ever made. That need to go back to that design.

[@CarlosVS]

That lighting is godly.

[@adamnash7908]

8bitdoo? I feel like its 8bitdoe, like nintendo? Please pronounce it Nnintendoo from now on so we are less confused. Thanks Wulffy!

[@clairekopenhafer8272]

Honestly the form factor of a pro controller with the ability to switch back and forth between switch and PC is really, really attractive. Already thinking about how the Dpad and macro triggers could be used in Genshin lol

[@BizarrePower]

You watch Destiny too? dggL

[@blarghblargh]

cringe. destiny is centrist garbage

[@wpwentzell]

As a heads up, mine had stick drift in the right joystick within about a month and half after purchasing. False advertising on the "no stick drift" front, mine got drift faster than any other controller I've ever owned.

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

these are so precise, and due to magnetic field being directly affected by ambient temperature that might be it too, recalibration is needed a lot. it doesn't mean they are actually "worn"

[@kurainaru]

dgg4lyfe

[@corylim7351]

I just love 8bitdo in general.

[@plushtrbl6831]

dggL

[@terabiman]

I would buy this over a pro controller, but I'd rather have the Gulikit. Seeing as I have a Pro 2 right now, though, I'll use that until it's dead.