Hero Wars Alliance/Mobile - Heidi Rework! Crazy?

New video about the Heidi Rework!
► Test against JJI and Amira
► Crazy 151k - 248k hits
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[@thiagogustavo78]

Your work is very good. I always watch replays of your videos

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Thank you very much my friend 🙂❤️

[@dijada972]

Thank you very much for Heidi analysis 👍🏾

[@herowarssuddendeath]

You are welcome, it was a little bit quick and dirty 😅 so perhaps a better video for the future

[@t.balazs836]

Have you seen Cascade leaving the fight? I mean, he literally runs out the arena, I think its some kind of behavior when Kayla is involved into the fight. (happened with Luther, Tristan, Kayla, Yasmine, Cascade vs Ziri, Jorgen, Amira, Faceless, Lian and once with Cleaver, Kayla, Xe'sha, Peppy, Aidan vs Aurora, Dante, Heidi, Iris, Cascade). It is kinda funny, ngl

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Haha no, not yet 👍 I would guess because of losing his target while he is using his skill 😅

[@theoneandonlycarlo]

​@@herowarssuddendeath I can link you the clip on discord if needed

[@rafomin]

Nice results and analysis, thank you. Have you tried Heidi team against FART?

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Thanks 🙂 yes, that's why I made the last statement 👍 Heidi loads Fafnir and if he ults it's Game over

[@Mehmet-yc3ff]

thanks for the video. perfect one as usual. after heidi rewor which one is better? JJI Nebua Ginger or JJI Nebula Astrid or another engineer combo?

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Thank you very much 👍❤️ Mh both are losing against that Heidi team 🙃 but you can increase the chances if use the JJI synergy in the middle and a tank like Luther + Phobos

[@robertcatania1120]

I also like Amira with new Heidi. I did quite a few tests vs Nebula/Heidi/Amira/Cascade then for tank use Ziri for PA opponents and Rufus for MA opponents. Ziri team was good vs Cleaver, Luther, Fart, and JJI with Astrid (but not so much against Ginger) and the Rufus one is good against Nature MAM teams. Some have even used Aurora as the tank.

[@herowarssuddendeath]

I got 8:2 against CL FArt but the result was more than close 😂 Cascade is too squishy for the last spot where he should be 🙃 I'm still not a big fan of him

[@robertcatania1120]

@herowarssuddendeath not all maxed heroes im assuming? I just tested again putting ziri nebula heidi amira cascade on defense and attacking with cleaver luther fart and they lost 0-10. All 10 heroes are max except Tristan armor skin which I purposely keep at 37 to protect Artemis from Yasmine.

[@robertcatania1120]

@herowarssuddendeath but yes it is not convincing victories.

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Yes, not fully maxed 493k def team

[@jacekmedyk2995]

🎉🎉🎉

[@herowarssuddendeath]

😄

[@pillarokon2376]

Thanks dude I have a request for the solar skin event for Aiden and Kayla

[@herowarssuddendeath]

You are welcome. I'm not the event guy 😅 and don't buy the skins even they are good. Outlandsale was a nice overlapping and with the additional coins you can buy additional skin stones 😂

[@alisadegzadeh5463]

I guess I have to form my JJI defense teams with corvus from now on 😜

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Unfortunately the dots into a shield won't trigger the altar 🎁

[@elbahrful]

Great 😊

[@herowarssuddendeath]

🙂✌️

[@TheSuave1975]

As progress team always wins eternity team. Will adding heidi into eternity team helps?

[@andytab1688]

try use eternity team : corvus dante iris nebula morrigan that team can win progress team so well

[@TheSuave1975]

@@andytab1688 Can this team beat Julius judge nebula isaac ginger at max?

[@herowarssuddendeath]

I tried it, undead 2:8 jji ginger in def

[@herowarssuddendeath]

If I sub Heidi for Morrigan stll 2: 8 for JJI Corvus Morri Iris Heidi Phobos/Face 0 :10 Also with Karkh as damagedealer 0:10 So it doesn't help

[@andytab1688]

@@TheSuave1975 that for julius judge nebula isaac astrid bro...,

[@BeautifulNSideAndOut]

Can you give me opinions on this team? Satori, Celeste, Heidi, Orion, Martha. It's meant to be a quick kill team because my guild has trouble with FART & JJI. Satori ults fast with magic pen from Orion + Celeste magic attack at half energy for a hard hit! Celeste keeps Satori up because Martha is slow to get her first heal off... Heidi offers the AOE for clean-up for whoever didnt die.

[@herowarssuddendeath]

It's a risky combo and satori tank works only against certain setups. The timing is close and against FART you need definitely Amira, otherwise a crit can kill him. His aoe will be interrupted, so you can only kill tristan. Your combo vs JJI Ginger Astrid 0:10 😅 Best I could get was 9:1 (Satori, Celeste, Heidi, Amira, Cascade)

[@BeautifulNSideAndOut]

@@herowarssuddendeath THANK YOU!!!

[@alisadegzadeh5463]

Please retest Heidi, as he gets his talisman now, specially I'm curious about an all mystery line ups, like ziri/Amira/lian/Heidi/maya or Martha or Celeste.

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Heidi with armor.. makes him only stronger against kayla 🙂

[@Wow-dc7ll]

Can I assume Corvus is a counter?

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Yes, Corvus is a good counter because of the lower periodic damage. But like I said in the other comment, it won't work if the damage is absorbed

[@robertcatania1120]

I have been using a team like Corvus/Morrigan/Iris/Phobos/Dorian (maybe Faceless instead of Dorian, I have to test more) to beat the new Heidi variations. Obviously won't work against all.

[@Antagonopolis]

In browser version we use Heidi with Dorian to counter Corvus. Perhaps , it can work in mobile version too.

[@mistic7710]

I'd like to run octavia dante and nebula for mobile end game but idk what would hard counter heidi while having synergy with them, that monkey ruins my games

[@herowarssuddendeath]

👌

[@parnpichate]

What about heidi with eternity (Corvus, Morrigan, Iris)

[@herowarssuddendeath]

I've put it in defense with Phobos: FART Aurora 10:0 Twins Celeste Martha 10:0 ODH Celeste Auro 10:0 JJI Amira 10:0 So it looks not so good

[@nikocoklat2]

hei buddy i'm new here and i had invested in aurora & yasmine. can u give advice on heroes that support them both and give solid defence in arena ? @@herowarssuddendeath

[@Dicaprio99]

Na, wie sind deine Talisman rerolls so gelaufen ?😅

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Hey, mittelmäßig 😂 Ich hasse Glücksspiel 😅 Und selbst?

[@Azure_KilluX]

Artemis Or Amira?😅

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Yeah afterwards I felt the same 😅 But I mean TAF teams are still number 1, so Heidi rework didn't change this 🙃

[@hazard7702]

How about Octavia - hiedi -nebula-dante-aroura

[@herowarssuddendeath]

It's okay 🙂 take aurora out and add someone like Jorgen between Octavia/Heidi or use Amira instead of Heidi 👍

[@hazard7702]

@@herowarssuddendeath I don't have amira but if I put in jorgen and remove aroura can I beat jji

[@herowarssuddendeath]

@@hazard7702 I tried and the answer is unfortunately "No"

[@humungous09]

​@@herowarssuddendeathTry this combo.. Dante/Morrigan/Keira/Iris/Octavia.. you can beat JJI, 10 - 0

[@dtonyhui4105]

you have to try him against Aiden teams, it is really boooom and aiden disappeared

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Yes very good 😅👍✌️

[@Coerced]

Heidi's not showing a lot of potential tbh. Heidi + Cascade much less so even. There's too many fundamental weaknesses and if they can't burst down the every modern super defensive team, they will always be destroyed because of how they charge the enemies

[@herowarssuddendeath]

You can use him now to "protect" your defense better against JJI. I havn't tested a lot because we are nearly at season end 🙃 But it's defintely a new option to kill quickly low life last position heroes or to defeat JJI defenses

[@Coerced]

@@herowarssuddendeathyes but be honest. Do you really think this grants Mystics a meta chance..? Look at the amount of teams Nature, Honour, Progress and even Chaos are destroying without trouble. Mystics still stand no chance to get a real meta position. Cascade + Heidi synergy IMO is a waste of an opportunity. They should have made a different hero than Cascade to create real synergy within the faction, like Aidan and Julius did. Heidi rework could then have been much more impactful. As of right now, IMO, Mystics are still just a counter-niche faction. Ziri countering physical teams without team synergy. Rufus vs magic without synergy. Satori vs marks without synergy, Amira... Andvari... etc. All aimed to cancel 1 team but there's no faction theme binding them together

[@Coerced]

Even Eternity has a lot better chance to create a good faction synergy with all the buffing / debuffing going on. They just need a new support / tank option within the faction. But it's hard to blame them as they have the fewest heroes by far. Mystics however, they have plenty of heroes. Just no faction theme

[@herowarssuddendeath]

I tried today to go through a JJI defense with Heidi (without Ziri) and the result was not really great. So to one of your question, no it's not really meta...

[@Coerced]

@@herowarssuddendeath yeah. I appreciate a careful approach to definitive statements, but we have to also be realistic and simply admit that as of right now, Heidi still sucks and the Mystics are still a poor team. Some good individual counter heroes, but very sub-par in terms of faction synergy

[@HeroWarsPhanatic]

Why dont you just slow the fights down, only like that you can ever actually see & understand what is happenning

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Because I like more the stopmotion than to slow everything down 🙃 you have even the option in youtube itself to change the playbackspeed to 0.25 😉

[@HeroWarsPhanatic]

@@herowarssuddendeath yes i know my friend, but you are the educator, there are moments when you say you cant exactly see what is happenning because its going too fast.. so the solution is just slow down the fights or toggle back & forth, anyway's its all good iam only on level 70 so most of this is irrelavant to me anyways..

[@herowarssuddendeath]

Yeah normally I try to explain slowly and show everything you need 🙂 This heidi rework video was released quickly after change. So not much time but still not quick & dirty like other youtubers here