Hess Edge Of Conspiracy

[@richardrichard3107]

Just a bit more about Capt. Donald: Alfred means Alf the Red? -- actually it means ''elf counsel''. Alfred is Rudolf in German? -- actually Rudolf means ''fame wolf''. Totally unrelated. Also, he says Alfred is Anglo-Saxon and not German -- well, for one thing, Anglo-Saxon is 100% Germanic, and Alfred is very common in all German-speaking countries. Captain Gasbag!

[@BrettonFerguson]

Hess had a recurring dream of an endless procession of coffins full of mothers with crying children, and of an endless procession of coffins full of children with crying mothers. He had this dream night after night. Churchill refused any peace offers. Hess wanted to stop the war so flew to Scotland to negotiate. For this he was found guilty of being a war monger and sentenced to life.

[@zenodotusofathens2122]

no... he was sentenced to life for helping to engineer military aggression and crimes of such huge magnitude hitherto unknown in human savagery

[@pasisovi]

Attention: This is a Biased Documentary

[@truthseekingmissile1430]

+pasisovi What else would you get from the BBC?

[@EarlFaulk]

Attention: Conspiracists are whining that they can't have their garbage blasted all day like they do on most tv and radio stations at the present.

[@Pfsif]

Whenever you get near the truth the guilty scream CONSPIRACY THEORIST!

[@robrobert9541]

I'm only 18 minutes into the video and this guy must have used the term "conspiracy theory," or "conspiracy theorist," and even one I've never heard before, "cock-up theorist" at least 30 to 35 times already. This is a typical tactic used to discredit anyone not accepting the official account, or proposing an alternative account, of any given event. It brings to mind a popular saying in Russia during the Soviet regime. The citizens of Soviet Russia would often say, "Believe NOTHING until the Kremlin has officially denied it." LOL! Go ahead - tell us what we should believe. My most important question, though, would be, if all of this was really just a bunch of nonsense then why would the BBC feel the need to devote a one hour programme to an attempt at dispelling the theory? If it's all just a bunch of bullshit why not just ignore it?

[@Oldgittom]

Rob Robert Agreed; this is a rather typical BBC 'snow job'. The object of the Hess coverup after all these years is to protect the several Brit aristos & VIPs who were pro-Nazi. They included the Royal Family. Hess believed he could contact & sign a peace treaty with this element. The workingclass Brits were mainly left-wing anti-fascists, tho the mass media would rather not tell you this. Hence the covering snowstorm of obscuring BS. By the way, did you spot the bullet holes in the wrechage of the Messerschmitt 110? That shows it was NOT the aircraft of Hess, which landed safely in the grounds of the Duke of Hamilton's estate (the DoH was a prominent pro-Nazi).. The wreck prop was from some other shot down plane.

[@robrobert9541]

Oldgittom Ya, I did notice that, and remembered that this conflicted with the story I'd heard about him landing at the estate of the DoH, not being shot down. I always found it very interesting that he chose to land there, of all places. I know that much of the Royal family were pro-Nazi. I also know that they are ALL Germans, having changed their name to Windsor during WW1 to appease public fears of conflict of interest, or whatever. (Probably didn't want the public asking questions about the true motives for the war.) Phillip Mountbatten had relatives who were SS. I saw a photo once of him leading a funeral procession for one of his SS relatives, prior to the war, and prior to his marriage to Princess Elizabeth - future Queen E2. I had always thought that Hitler had sent him there on some misguided errand, but when they refused his advances the Nazis claimed he was nuts and disassociated themselves from him and his actions. I also have questions regarding Hess' stay at the "prison." How many people grow that old in prison conditions? Who knows what this was really all about? Perhaps we'll never know as it will always be covered up.

[@Oldgittom]

The Duke of Hamilton's estate becoz he had a landing strip there. DoH & aristo pals in MI6 had earlier rigged the airborne escape of fascist Franco from his Canary Islands exile. There is a great deal more to the complex Hess yarn - too much for this blogette. Just note, Spandau jail was DEMOLISHED THE DAY AFTER THE HESS DEATH! &, the EU is the new Fourth Reich.

[@robrobert9541]

Oldgittom Ya, I've often said - or commented - that the Nazis may have lost the war, but Fascism won. If you know anything about the United Nations Agenda 21 you know what I mean. I wasn't aware of Spandau being demolished, and that is definitely interesting. As I wrote earlier, I don't believe he actually spent his time there, or not much of it, anyway.

[@Oldgittom]

Someone was in Spandau, but who? It's a complex tale, but remember, all the major players in WWII had 'doubles' - Churchill, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, etc. Even gen. Montgomery had one ('I Was Monty's Double'). Pertinently, Polish leader gen. Sikorski cut short his visit to America. He arrive at Prestwick handily in time to rendezvous with Hess. A Hess-Sikorski peace deal would have removed Britain's reason for being at war at all (Roosevelt would have felt betrayed). But Churchill & MI6 were well aware of these dirty moves, & blo9cked them. What C was loathe to do was reveal the treachery of his fellow Brit aristos. Hence the silencing of 'Hess', kept conveniently incommunicado until his death.

[@FlgOff044038]

Hess was not a war Criminal. He decently put his life at risk for peace, Churchill would not have liked that.

[@zenodotusofathens2122]

of course he was not a war criminal. He was a peace loving Quaker

[@thepezfeo]

Nixon was a Quaker, peace loving I'm not so sure :P

[@newlam7091]

Hess did not do this for "Peace", but to regain favor and recognition with Hitler because he was essentially set aside by Hitler's other toadies.

[@neuralvibes]

Hess' adorable facial expression at 3:03 can only mean one of two things; it's either time for the unboxing of Christmas presents on or he's in the midst of experiencing a head over heels man crush on Hitler. The decor seems a little off for Christmas so I guess it's the latter...

[@Gesundheit888]

If you are interested in the truth, don't bother watching this biased 'documentary'.

[@scotusayefreeman1297]

Here here I wonder why the title has conspiracy...could it be to encourage discussion?

[@ryanhinojosa2502]

wha do you reccomend ?

[@scotusayefreeman1297]

Flight from Reality by David Stafford. and David Irving's excellent Hess the missing years

[@rosesandsongs21]

I am interested in the truth therefore I will watch this first and check your recommendations afterwards. Thanks for the warnings but bias always seems less apparent when it fits your preconceived beliefs so to each his own. Cheers.

[@jamestcatcato7132]

Seek help!!!

[@geoffgeoff5586]

Can someone out there explain how a bullet of say .303 calibre would have, at short range, left an entrance and exit wound the size of a pea? I've fired many 303 bullets in my time in target practice and it leaves a bigger hole than a pea.

[@NCCEXECUTIVE]

A new book has been published by Barnes & Noble about R. Hess. Author is Ted Braun. Title is 2017: Dossier Hess, last enigma.

[@MrSchmolko]

they must have really feared some of his revelations to never let him out. even when the russians proposed to free him, england was firmly opposed.

[@Aristotelezz]

This is a great documentary that shows how all those BS conspiracy theories come into the world.

[@customisedfitness]

How could anyone think they are not the same person!? He had very distinctive features to start with....

[@GriefTourist]

thanks for this

[@jStevieO1]

one of the saddest chapters of Hess' memory is the recent denial of another grave lease upon the Hess family regarding their family grave plot . Hess' son has had to remove all traces of their grave place of many generations , some say due to fear of his last resting place becoming a focus for neo nazis as a memorial site . . the inscription ," i dared "was also removed from his memorial ,scandalous to say the least , im sure his grave would have already been reveered by neos .

[@EarlFaulk]

I don't know why they even sentenced him in the first place since he was not there at the time of the mass murders that occurred. Victors justice, I guess. At best, Hess was a minor figure in the glory days so it is unlikely the Neos would care about him.

[@hassaansaifullah4668]

They should not have cremated him. They should have just done a DNA test with his son and everything would have been clear.

[@newlam7091]

Yes, they should have taken his DNA, bring it to South America and create a bunch of little Hess boys to create a 4th Reich.

[@royfr8136]

This seems to have been made in the 80's. There is a different feel to this documentary....it's like it is talking down to the audience. Personaly I don't really feel this should have focused on weather he was the real Hess or not...but rather on what the hell was he doing in the U.K? Why did he fly?

[@sleepycatsqueeze]

Documentaries tend to feed conspiracies when they don't actually ask the real questions.

[@tykenminator]

I saw a gunshot wound on and old man. He was shot in the leg by his brother when he was going with water to the horses. And the brother was to shoot the waterbucket. But the bullet found it way tru his foot on the inside of the akkiles heel sen. It was almost bigger when he was old than when he got shot as young.. It was clearly visible. Could not have been mistaken. And this was also before antibiotika.

[@grevberg]

Actually the deal offered was that Germany would withdraw from all of western Europe and concentrate on Russia a deal that a lot of parliamentarians at the time would have accepted after a number of military disasters if they had had the chance.

[@Oldgittom]

+Uno G Churchill knew that 'a deal' with Hitler at that stage was a big, white flag, & so would e/one else have known. Most MPs at Parliament were Conservatives, & Churchill knew THEY would vote for a sell-out. What worried him was the minority of anti-Nazi MPs, the Labour Party, & the British working class behind them. HE KNEW a sell-out meant an uprising of Britons, & possibly revolution. Later Prime Minister, Michael Foot (Labour), confirmed this, post-WWII. "We would have fought" he affirmed. Those they would have fought were the pro-Nazi traitors like Chamberlain, Halifax, the Royals, & sundry aristo traitors. You will scratch hard to read this REAL history in mainstream BS. The ruling class filth of Britain doesn't want ordinary people to know how strong they are: nor do modern Neo-Nazis.

[@neuralvibes]

+Uno G And when would Germany withdraw from eastern Europe according to that same plan?

[@grevberg]

***** Never, Nazis against communists fighting to the death what's not to like.

[@neuralvibes]

What communists? These lands were supposedly already "liberated" from communists, so since the job was done and over with, there would have been no problem to give back the "liberated" land to its inhabitants. After all, the Nazi war effort had nothing to do with ruthless conquest and genocide, right?

[@neuralvibes]

***** Britain should have teamed up with Nazi Germany, so that Russia could have defeated and dismantled Germany and Britain in one go. I do think this was a missed opportunity, although thankfully Britain is going down the drain either way in the coming decades.

[@martyrobinson149]

Germany was desperate for negotiations with Britain. Germany failed miserably in the Battle Britain to gain air supremacy. Infact the Brits ended the battle with more aircraft than they started ! Germany had no fleet to conquer Britain or it's overseas territories. Hitler's focus had turned towards the USSR his long ambition of creating a German Empire in Eastern Europe and Western Russia. Hitler hoped to the USSR would quickly collapse after been completely overwhelmed and Britain would be forced to agree to negotiations. Germany would withdraw from Western Europe and keep expanding East eventually becoming the world's superpower. The Axis Power's would be the "UN"

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

On the face of it presents some good evidence but it's also too glib and quick to reach conclusions and avoid other possibilities. And it is way over the top in trying to trash conspiracy theory as a general category.

[@mgytitanic1912]

It's amazing how many conspiracy theorists come crawling out of the word work at the slightest provocation isn't it. To switch Hess and keep it going for so long is an enormous task. And they can't tell you why anyone do such a thing in the first place . If in the end you wanted him dead there were many ways to do so, including while he was incarcerated in England and failing that sentencing him to death at Nurmeburg.

[@carloppinions6732]

good video

[@kimmichaelthon3893]

Round about the six minute mark: "He refused a cup of tea. He'd only have a glass of water." Clearly insane.

[@watchgoose]

+Graf Grausam and what medical school did you attend?

[@kimmichaelthon3893]

***** Uni Hamburg. Which school of humor do you subscribe to?

[@scotusayefreeman1297]

Mr Kipling makes a fabulous pie ... and a tasty tart. His pastry is always crumbly and buttery (just as it should be), and his fillings never fail to impress. ...Hessceedingly Good Cakes

[@superchitownhustler]

The reasons they give for the murder motives are silly. The old bird offed himself.

[@johnquinn456]

his story is becoming inconvenient.

[@scotusayefreeman1297]

www.helpforheroes.org.uk/

[@Xantylon74]

Ruhe in Frieden, Rudolph.

[@brucefultz2462]

Hess was nuts

[@johnquinn456]

history, is a mutha.

[@paulspydar]

captured my ass! He flew to the Uk ffs! you think he wanted to hide? smh

[@พิณสุดาเปลี่ยนสมัย]

paulspydar เพลงสเทพ

[@raluhovarth]

Closed this the soon I heard "racist bible of the nazi party". Got better documentaries to view. You can tell from the first phrase at the beginning - "fanatical follower" - that they'll portray them all mad.

[@michaelahern9883]

Inconclusive.

[@dianneschuman6328]

Conspiracy theories = $$.

[@scotusayefreeman1297]

+Dianne Schuman Good point, every cloud has a silver lining. All the best to you

[@I_am_Diogenes]

Damn . History channel AND the BBC in one documentary ? I was actually hoping for some facts . Guess I can go look somewhere else since they will be few and far between in this one .

[@danieln1]

Hess = Mess

[@450celtic]

He knew about the bases on the moon and Antarctic. Pressure was coming to have him released. I remember they say he died in his cell then they changed it to the garden.

[@maxpayne3824]

Murders by sas

[@juanseegar2546]

Is Hail inSaudi Arabia?

[@johnquinn456]

critical thinking?

[@heartaloft]

Tried, but couldn't watch it - my bull-shit alarm kept going off.

[@aglock2044]

typical BBC dribble

[@jacobchigung]

English Propaganda Film - so many of them - its embarassing to be English sometimes

[@ramsaymcewan3916]

code name z and put in camp z =zion

[@maddogoz08]

r.i.p rudolf hess

[@GENERALWACKASS]

Oh look a macintosh comp

[@brucefultz2462]

Hess was nuts

[@watchgoose]

+Bruce Fultz The Russians didn't think so.... think about it. Why did they keep him alive, but sequestered, for so long?