It took a long while to figure out the reason behind Karthus R not hitting Neeko. Between trying transforming at specific intervals with Karth R, every different transformable not pet unit, and so on. It wasnt until maybe 6 hours of testing i thought to try it with dead Karthus. FrankTheBoxMonster was a massive help as hes the reason we know its actually two seperate ults.
@HextechLabАй бұрын
Thanks again for telling me about it :)
@KazuNEETАй бұрын
marry me
@ibondrayton7248Ай бұрын
😅
@AkiRa22084Ай бұрын
@@HextechLab So, which one is the intended one? Jinx R ignores Neeko in minion form, for example.
@Brain-washed2Ай бұрын
he gave it away with the thumbnail lol
@user-bl4kb7uf5lАй бұрын
You can also see the karthus bug in arena! Ulting when you are alive gives you the correct reduced cooldown that it has in arena, but ulting during his passive gives you the normal cooldown and not the reduced arena one.
@lehung0710Ай бұрын
same, karthus in passive form give the normal countdown
@HextechLabАй бұрын
Kled's own health also seems a bit inconsistent. At the same level, items, runes etc. he has 535 max health when mounted up, 534 max health while unmounted (so maybe different rounding), but then again he has 545 health at some point...
@wvermsАй бұрын
Kled's health also causes really weird interactions with items like Sterak's/Maw (basically things with a health threshold). Been hoping it'd get fixed for a while but alas
@kuukunanmuna7652Ай бұрын
Too many times I have died without getting unmounted, frustrating since the enemy is also one Q or auto away from dying…
@animositylolАй бұрын
@@kuukunanmuna7652 You mean in Arena? It's a known Arena bug, I have never seen it happen in-game unless you have like 1 hp on Kled and die to burn during dismount animation
@kuukunanmuna7652Ай бұрын
@@animositylol Not in arena, in sr. I dont specifically mean eclipse proc but I have died so many times without unmounting/during the animation to something
@patty4449Ай бұрын
From my time at Riot I actually know whats going on... (They simply forgot to add it) So the thing is this... Karthus basically is 2 Champions (Same for Nidale, Anivia, Quinn and a bunch of others... Yes Morderkaiser in Ult is also a different Morderkaiser) And the code is a pile of sh+t so when adding interactions, new devs don't know they have to add it in 2 files... So the subject is still targeted because its defined as the same object, but since it doesn't have the same stored data in both forms (or simply a different health data in this case) the ult doesn't affect the champ in Minion form... Trust me this happens way more than it should... To all devs, optimise your f*cking codes and make them readable... AND PLEASE leave the comments in... We all love those comments... (Looking at you TF2 devs)
@patty4449Ай бұрын
P.S. its not just 2 Ults, its 2 different champions, you may find more differences if you dig deep enough, I ain't kidding
@pedropimenta896Ай бұрын
Found the dev!
@SwoggersLOLАй бұрын
interesting when you say morde is two different champs when in ult form, because if you remove his skl, he'll be invisible for both forms. ig morde is duped in ult or something
@givemebeans2228Ай бұрын
@@patty4449 Bruh riot coding is so shit, i dont understand why dont just reuse the ult code from base karthus 💀
@HarpE-girlАй бұрын
Yeah one thing i found much earlier is Kog went a few seasons where alive he had 330 ms meanwhile deadKog had 325 because the buff was never applied to deadKog. Champion swaps are always weird but fun to find interactions with
@atsukana1704Ай бұрын
The neeko bug and nasfirir slow are legit useful
@Portos_O_1osАй бұрын
Imagine if the marker on the first champion never disappeared after he did the 2 headbutt bug, the other champion would get knocked back after every W in the future, unless all-star targets them again and they lose their permanent mark
@HextechLabАй бұрын
I forgot to show it, but the check for the mark is only done in some radius around the target, so it wouldn't be globally. But yeah, if the targets stayed close, all-star could just perma headbutt them. And he could even headbutt 5 at the same time. :D
@yorik1006Ай бұрын
You can do the Alistar W bug in Arena with cooldown reset thing that resets your normal abilities cooldowns every 15 seconds
@Portos_O_1osАй бұрын
The Herald recall thing happened to me when they added the mechanic, where all team members who helped get it, get the empowered recall. I was recalling after helping, and my guy kills it 3 seconds before my recall, I examined the clip and I had the empowered recall for that 3 seconds, no more after....
@thatredkite831015 күн бұрын
Rakan's W knockup zone has infinite range technically. if you spam it in practice tool, the knockup zone might just appear wherever your mouse cursor is at the moment, so if it's hovering enemy fountain, you will knock up in enemy fountain despite being on the other side of the map
@llotossАй бұрын
Bug with Naafiri works because her slow and Stridebreaker's slow are seen by game as the same type of debuff (that can be stacked by some means?..).
@xTriplexSАй бұрын
Debuffs are usually aggregated by target rather than aggregated by source, so it makes sense
@xTriplexSАй бұрын
If you ignite/exhaust etc someone before the other one runs out, it doesn't increase the duration or the damage, it just removes the second stack
@xSyleNАй бұрын
3:53 Using ult as Vi in Practice tool look almost the same. When you ult one dummy and immediately another one both of them are knocked up and take dmg from ult.
@yez1062Ай бұрын
The naafiri bug is actually broken tho
@AvatarbeeАй бұрын
You know the Karthus ult bug could easily have been avoided by simply having both ult pull information from the same place so you only have to change something once.
@CatriusPham2 күн бұрын
It's called Single source of truth. Karthus is one of the first champions of the game so I guess they didn't put too much thought into refactoring his code 😅
@Avatarbee2 күн бұрын
@@CatriusPham Here I thought object orientated programming was standard nowadays.
@OvhanDevosАй бұрын
The aurora spirits are likely coded as slow moving missles.
@pinnacleexpress420Ай бұрын
5:42 oddly satisfying
@MetroArcherАй бұрын
6:33, it actually is kinda impactful, for example if you help on doing herald and wanna take a recall earlier for tempo, it will consume the herald recall if the herald dies before you end your recall, making you waste the empowered recall. Maybe its intended tho
@HextechLabАй бұрын
Yeah, that's what I meant with it probably happening in a lot of games. It happening is not gamebreaking, but it happens often.
@YawnWoofDogАй бұрын
@@HextechLabhappened to me once. I was so confused why I did not have empowered recall. Now I know.
@LambdaspicotАй бұрын
Moreover for the Karthus dead ult, there isn't even the audio tooltip for deaf people in the kill feed
@sagekins408316 күн бұрын
The recall with herald is probably intended or will never be fixed, since it gives you the buff until you recall it would be somewhat of an exploit to recall with it and then have a baron recall for whenever you want for free.
@kirinomaneАй бұрын
Does Nafiris slow also extend when someone else hits the target with stridebreaker?
@Ethan-uq2ewАй бұрын
For the Naafiri Stridebreaker slow, have you tried extending the slow with stridebreakers from multiple different players? I’m curious if that does anything.
@krodax3639Ай бұрын
How did you enable the notification when karthus ult sounds comes?
@CiasteczkowyАй бұрын
I hate those soft caps on slows. Just remove those and show how much will your slow accualy do! At the beginning of my playing lol i expected 99% slows to be basically roots with no blocking mobility abilities. But it is around 66% instead
@snapy_knightАй бұрын
About Aurora spirit vision, Kindred in season 9 also have vision, provided by Wolf when he circles around Lamb
@pedrodomingues1553Ай бұрын
Also no announcer icon on the dead karthus R
@Brain-washed2Ай бұрын
the stridebreaker naffiri slow would have been better shown in the same area with the slowed champion walking to the same place so you can really see how much distance is lost. good video though
@alterranlongbow5067Ай бұрын
the rift herald bug also works without picking up the eye if you get the assist buff
@muscifedeАй бұрын
is this a naafiri bug or can u combine other short-strong and long-weak slows? maybe some longer abilities slows and short items ones?
@dawnables2731Ай бұрын
the naafiri slow being able to be extended and refreshed with another slow source reminds me of weaken refreshing in destiny 2 lol
@vladislavkaras491Ай бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration!
@demona969923 күн бұрын
3:37 there is a rune that can reset abilities when you kill someone
@jandalf8128Ай бұрын
There also used to be a bug where if you posessed naafiri as viego her passive would trigger and you got a permenant dog that stuck around even after you stop possesing her. Not sure if it was patched out tho.
@sageker8208Ай бұрын
That fricken kled bug explains so damm much
@johanestebanramirezbarrios1411Ай бұрын
4:22 maybe you could do it in arena with augment that reset your basic skills every 10 seconds
@ToroVtn22 күн бұрын
i just noticed dead kathus ult says i am become death lol
@gamingandchill4186Ай бұрын
With the Naafiri Stridebreaker thing, could it also work on a melee champ with Voltaic Cyclosword + Stridebreaker? Both Naafiri W and Voltaic do the same slow (if you’re melee champ)
@kayodejohn3753Ай бұрын
I think Aurora's spirits granting vision is a feature.
@Mr.NormalАй бұрын
About Alistar's bug, a while ago, I found out that it also happens to Vi's ultimate. I once managed to knock 3 dummies with one ult. You should try one day, It's pretty funny.
@yamgomes3894Ай бұрын
this karthus neeko interaction happened to me a few hours ago so thank you for reading my mind
@Daimao-SamaАй бұрын
The Recall not being empowered is the same with Baron if it is killed after the recall has been initiated
@lukor-techАй бұрын
honestly alistar W should do that, just as skarner picks up champs from under his claws alistar being bigger > more champs targeted during W / Q
@eatherghost495Ай бұрын
Nilah W also interrupts the ult when timed correctly
@DanteEhomeАй бұрын
I encontered the empowered recall bug myself.
@poprostuguiАй бұрын
6:30 we need to see if that bug is working while he entered the spawn
@gamerguy5185Ай бұрын
how did you people even find the alistar bug
@mister8560Ай бұрын
5:50 Experienced that one a lot, it's pretty annoying
@engkropix0558Ай бұрын
imagine if karthus' ult code would have taken an animation id parameter AKA riot wrote maintanable code that follows the DRY (don't repeat yourself) principle, hextech would've made a couple dollars less off his videos :(
@natashalaguer5400Ай бұрын
you should put Neeko's auto attack when transforming to Bel'veth. I couldn't clear enemy wards lol
@QuestionableObjectАй бұрын
After that karthus ult bug I was expecting you to tell me that LoL is constructed entirely of if statements
@svekadimdostuj5015Ай бұрын
"ACED"🥶🥶
@SkinShowcase-zm3rsАй бұрын
Great video! That's why neeko has high win ratio vs Karthus!
@bidaum_4822Ай бұрын
6:40 - Does this interaction also work with Nasus slow? I.E if you stridebreaker on the last tick of Nasus Slow it extends it?
@the_darkin_bladeАй бұрын
how get same champion on the same team
@archangel8172Ай бұрын
Only in league 99% doesnt actually mean 99%
@th3j0t46Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure I've already knocked back 2 champs with alistar in arena. I thought it was intended since I played it once or twice and did not bother to read the abilities lol I have no idea how it happened tho, I can try to check with champ I played with and maybe you can find out
@SgtMorningWood69Ай бұрын
how about the .15 second trynd ult delay or when it goes haywire if u spam w and try to r during the w animation. i swear im not crazy that ult isnt instacast damnit and it fails ALOT. Source:Trynd OTP
@matheusheringer9569Ай бұрын
the 6th beg the question, it would also effect the xayah/rakan special recall?
@Huy12323Ай бұрын
Riot said: thanks for this Vid
@dantnadАй бұрын
If you've seen Vandiril, you'll know, they don't care 😅 they leave the bugs right there until it happens live on the Worlds stage
@jonhyolealeon1451Ай бұрын
Hi, Someone know why my Display Champion Sound Notification dont have the echo animation only show the notification of ults stati static and simple like a kill normal
@TheF4llenOneАй бұрын
whats the background music tho ? on the first part of the video
@shadowstrike5692Ай бұрын
he bullies a helpless cho gath bot with cheats.
@Panni-yq2vnАй бұрын
karthus ult same problem with yuumi. She can dodge damage by just W on friend
@ronaldbeaver7 күн бұрын
Relax guys.. karhus is a new champion... they still are fixing it
@saqren2997Ай бұрын
When you play aram karthus you have less time to press ult after death for some reason, or I'm delusional
@SoulPvPGangstarАй бұрын
spaghetti code
@AM-we1esАй бұрын
How do you make the sound cues pop up in the top right?
@NyppaahClipsАй бұрын
I've been doing this on neeko for kharthus r, denied a penta once...
@jazzybeatss5960Ай бұрын
Who's the artist of the second song in the video named Tranquil?
@alqallaf11_Ай бұрын
do u know if neeko get smited while she's a minion she will get 1200 true damage? You need to try it in the next video
@rev.42010 күн бұрын
its not bug, its a mechanic that u can use
@hoangtanthuy3947Ай бұрын
if Alistar's W has that mark mechanic then why can we flash it
@Alex50969Ай бұрын
What if the alistar w mark is an on hit effect and rageblade applies ut again. Does anyons know?
@kocurowskyy39Ай бұрын
how did u pick 2 same champs in a custom match
@fancenАй бұрын
he did
@mustafacankoken1434Ай бұрын
0:30 duh, its cuz of viego
@lilian__uzuiАй бұрын
first music name?
@lukistevens4747Ай бұрын
imagine copying entire ability instead of runnin it with diffrent animation, crazy
@mynameischun-li798Ай бұрын
They don't know shit of coding if they did it this way I will explain which was a better way to do it in a way no nerd people can understan They probably coded it this way: If -> Alive -> Use Ult 1 If -> Dead -> Use Ult 2 They could have just do this instead If -> Alive -> Use Animation ult 1 If -> Dead -> Use Animation ult 2 It's obviously more difficult than this, but c'mon
@thekilleryellowduckАй бұрын
Average neeko bug
@Treq4Trak8 күн бұрын
Why don't they just rebuild the game in a new engine... Well not because it would take time but it is risky they are afraid of players reaction and what bugs the new version will have. I think they will never do it.
@SwoggersLOLАй бұрын
Ight Mr Lab, youre getting on my nerves. You show off all these interesting bugs, and then showcase an obv meta Naafiri build. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬