Hidden Consequences of Mario & Luigi Brothership's Reviews

[@vianabdullah2837]

It's a bit strange why people put so much stock on the review of a single website. Especially since the overall critical response is mildly positive.

[@jacobfoxfires9647]

Especially one with a rather tarnished reputation like IGN. So many people have wrote off their reviews and yet somehow this one has weight to it? It’s odd.

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

​@@jacobfoxfires9647 shitendo fanboys need to feel like victims

[@paulgilbert5278]

Not mildly positive, generally positive. Maybe it's folks who can't do math but last time I checked. 78/100 and a 8.1 user rating is pretty good. In elementary school terms it's like getting a B on your class project.

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

@@paulgilbert5278 in most countries you need 80% for a passing grade bro. 81% is one percent removed from a failure in most of the world

[@Folutu]

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 Didn't know eric had a KZbin account.

[@Pyrple]

I'll just say, it probably doesn't help that every single Nintendo KZbinr has been putting a big picture of a 5 in their M&L video thumbnails for the past weeks. Since everyone here claims to not care about IGN reviews, none of them would've even been aware of it if their favorite KZbinrs and Twitter users weren't posting it all over the place. It's true that IGN has been reposting their review on Twitter over and over for attention, which isn't nice, but to be fair, so are all your favorite Nintendo KZbinrs. Everyone is trying to profit off this game's negative publicity, which only makes it worse, not better.

[@StephenN.Parker]

Yeah, so many people put the whole IGN 5/10 in their thumbnails and title more than they actually talking about why they think the game is better than that. And even then, some still saying they have the same few problems with the game just like IGN but they would give it a slightly higher score as if everyone has different merit as how they score something.

[@Pyrple]

@ yeah every video is "I agree with basically every criticism IGN said but it's not THAT bad so I give it an 8."

[@xana3961]

@@Pyrple More accurately, even though they agree with the criticism, they don't think the flaws in question *lower* the score to such a low number because the *positives* of the game are that much better than the flaws. There is nothing wrong with thinking a game is better than what someone else thinks it is *in spite of* the flaws it has.

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

Yeah ninty fanboys have been coping for weeks

[@sayzar9474]

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 and then theres there’s the people like you who talk like hating on “ninty fanboys” is their entire personality

[@Elliemaeggles]

I just wish people could enjoy things without feeling like they have to fit in with what they think the norm is. It immediately sets doubt within you and makes you think…”am I really allowed to like this?” or “is it okay if I’m enjoying this?”…it really brings down your enjoyment, unless you are able to block off those thoughts.

[@amygeer2217]

I know how you feel….

[@adult11252]

The problem is they are unsecured, and they fear to risk their valuable times (of course, time is valuable) and money to invest in the game. That's why review is existed. Multimedia is different from installation arts because you seen everything in your eye. However, movies and games are not. In addition, Some countries ONE $60 games maybe to equal 2 weeks of minimum wage per hour, and games nowadays are like 30+ hours. I kinda understand if they want to save it for something better. But anyway, I personally hated score review because, at the end of the day, they are arts. You cannot quantifying arts (although some can quantifying like number of bugs in the game), and especially IGN has no standard when give a rating.

[@tacitgamingfanREAL]

how it feels to like any pokemon game past gen 7

[@carnage0685]

@@tacitgamingfanREAL also gen 6

[@FoundOasis]

hey if you enjoy pokemon good for u you can voiceur opinion but honestly i really dont see the hype in it its always so boring theres so many better rpg games worth playing to me

[@adriann9919]

I just keep going back to that dunkey video that shows how viewers react to reviews, basing its whole merit on the score at the end. People just want reviews to reflect their preconceived notions on a game. One comment on the video was for Age of Calamity that went like "9 is a fair score for this game. Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow!"

[@schmampus6701]

Which dunkey video are you talking about What’s it called

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

I do love how everyone claims that game reviewers are useless, but then have a meltdown for weeks whenever a big outlet posts a controversial review (clickbait or not). The majority of people already pay attention more to user reviews (be it on Amazon, Steam, etc), so at this point all these people are doing are giving the mainstream outlets more credibility and popularity (regardless of whether you think thats a good thing or not).

[@chooongusbug724]

User reviews are typically BS as well TBH. I think both are a joke and just play the game myself to form my opinion 🤷‍♀️

[@jacksonlovesnintendo]

Unrelated, but as an American I really enjoy hearing your British expressions like “thunderstorm in a teacup.” Had me dying

[@RiqMoran]

sort of unrelated but score inflation is a real phenomenon where everyone is afraid to give anything a score lower than 7 so a 5 which should be the median is seen as offensive. But it shouldnt be.

[@connormclernon26]

I stopped listening to IGN a long time ago, but playing the game, I do admit there are flaws. I don't think it's a 5/10. I'd give it an 8/10 personally.

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

Same here. There's only some initial pacing and button mapping issues that bothered me, but if they ironed those out, it might be my favorite in the series!

[@ravenebony2267]

8/10 seems perfectly reasonable.

[@tyler9425]

90% of the game is backtracking a 5/10 is correct

[@ravenebony2267]

@@tyler9425 that's ridiculous

[@tyler9425]

@@ravenebony2267 after the 3rd sea you do nothing but backtrack to areas you have already been to for the rest of the game. Its really bad

[@Limomon]

Just finished the game a few days ago. 50+ hours. And I enjoyed it thoroughly. 9/10 for me with my admittedly different things I look for in games than most people, but I honestly think it's a 8/10 at worst.

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

Same here. I think it's an 8/10, but it would be a 9-9.5/10 if they changed the button mapping for Luigi, and made the performance better, which both could easily happen on Switch 2!

[@JsYTA]

9/10 at it's peak, 8/10 when you reach that fight with Bowser's Minions.

[@IAmNotASandwich453]

Well, it has the twistee Island theme, so it's immediately a 11/10 for me

[@TheLiquidLove]

I played and finished Mario and Luigi Brothership, I did the majority of the sidequests, and leveled up my characters to level 47. I personally would rate the game a 9/10. It’s slow to start, sure, but it didn’t mean it wasn’t fun. My biggest issue with the game is the loading times between each area. Otherwise I see myself replaying this game, I loved it!

[@Malik-1994]

Loading times are probably going to be fix on switch 2 I guess

[@nathanieljones8043]

I dont trust Amazon reviews. The main reason ign's review is so damming is the fact they won't review anything below a 7 unless it's unstable/unfinished.

[@NumberOneHorseDrowner]

You can see on metacritic that IGN's average review score is 71. That's a bit below the average reviewer.

[@Otherface]

My theory behind this is that for them (and... everyone else in the world) a 7 means average. So if the game is average at best... it gets a 7 at best. That our they are too afraid of giving a very high/low score to a game that may not deserve it, so a 7 is a perfect middle ground for them.

[@robbyrobot3303]

Never forget and never forgive the 7.9 they gave Double Dash

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

I am convinced that Logan Plant did NOT play the same Brothership that I did. Nearly every one of his criticisms felt antithetical to the real state of the game. It's a real shame how one man's opinion can so severely affect a game's success!

[@lilisaur]

I got same impression. Maybe he played an earlier version that cut out a lot of the gameplay or humor or something. This is why people are going nuts over it and trying to figure out how to justify a 5, because his score is way off base from the majority.

[@banjobro64]

@@lilisaur Logan probably rushed the game so bad, has some fanboy complaints and didn't like it very much. He was about to give a 6 or a 7 but then he remember that IGN wants him to release a clickbait score once in a while so he opted to sacrifice this one.

[@PeruvianPotato]

​​@@banjobro64 Nintendrone

[@banjobro64]

@PeruvianPotato did you read the review?

[@adult11252]

That's why numbered review scores should be abolished. They give too much power to a one dude to anchoring product's experience and can manipulate the fate of products.

[@Valoric]

The more you try to abolish them. The greater others desire to use them becomes. If it was illegal, you’d get black market review scores. As funny as that sounds.

[@adult11252]

@Valoric Yeah, I got you. It can't be helped since people addict to oversimplicity nowadays. But honestly, black market review score sounds nicer for me, lol, At least we don't have major companies who trendsetter everything.

[@shane3x]

I know people who when i talk about brothership are like “isn’t that the game that got terribly received” because of the IGN review. It’s as much an indictment on people’s lack of awareness on basic psychology and just accepting whatever they hear as it is IGNs review itself.

[@Goolix_Aero]

I've been seeing a lot of "IGN also gave X game Y score" as if it's one person reviewing all these games. The guy is allowed to give it a 5 in his review, and you are allowed to disregard it if you feel that way. It's okay. Both can be true.

[@banjobro64]

I recognize that you cannot eliminate 100% of the reviewer's subjective bias but generally I cannot agree with your argument. That IGN reviewer was quite aware that the game is "not bad" (by his own admission) and he is generally quite loose with high scores. He didn't respect even his own standards. Every webiste including IGN has certain published scoring guidelines that are supposed to be homogenous among all reviewers. The existence of a score itself is a categorization that expects to encpsulate some kind of objectivity. A review is supposed to be a professional judgment, not a personal experience. The reason why there are certain "wrong" reviews is for two reasons imho: 1) professional reviewers are forced to rush the game and they are playing so many other titles at the same time they can barely keep up 2) sometimes they just clickbait (not always of course, otherwise this strategy doesn't work)

[@snuggie1849]

​@@banjobro64who cares about a review being "professional" when at the end of the day a game is supposed to be fun first and foremost. Brothership actively gets in the way of having fun with tutorials that treat people like they are dumb. The older games never did that.

[@banjobro64]

@@snuggie1849 I don't know, maybe you're right but if the reviews are not professional enough, that's a problem because I can't orient myself properly. Logan's review was more a rant than a review. Generally I don't appreciate Mario RPGs that much because they are too chatty. I was interested in this one because of the music, the art style and the combat but my feeling is that Logan's review polluted and polarized the whole discussion

[@snuggie1849]

@@banjobro64 thats a fair take. I do agree with alot of the point the ign guy made and its crazy that people lost their minds over this game.

[@banjobro64]

@@snuggie1849 the problem to me is that the too chatty/too handhandling issue is common in many games but the fact that this time the score is impacted that much is surprising. Are these issues really that huge this time? Or is it just due to Logan's "complain backlog"? It seems a wild exaggeration to me but anyway I wouldn't probably buy the game because some issues pointed out by Logan are a problem to me (i.e. inflated longevity, long dialogues). While some others are irrelevant (i.e. frame rate drops in certain areas)

[@RMarr-uy9hf]

I remember a poor critic reception of Metroid Prime in the first year after release, it was the same for Zelda Windwalker... It took years for people to see those games for what they were.

[@SpeedfreakUK]

Huh? Prime got rave reviews immediately.

[@tschro6539]

@@SpeedfreakUKyes I think he’s talking about the original Metroid Prime for game cube

[@chrisbarnes3660]

I remember 10/10 reviews everywhere for the GC Metroid Prime, maybe it was different for different regions to be fair

[@RrEMBT]

@@tschro6539 that game is a 97

[@RMarr-uy9hf]

@chrisbarnes3660 I was in France at the time, so probably ;) The main complaint I remember was the control, and the fact that Nintendo refused to call it an FPS and insisted calling it a First Person Adventure :)

[@jacobfoxfires9647]

Just got the news and I think I figured out what was going on. Dragon Quest cannibalize the sales. As so far it’s the best selling game in Japan with the switch and PlayStation sales. So it might be less of the IGN affecting things and more it being sold at a VERY unfortunate time.

[@justice8718]

And then Shadow Generations sucks up the rest of the attention with a movie.

[@jacobfoxfires9647]

@@justice8718 Don't think there is any correlation there.

[@corey2232]

I also felt the game was mediocre. Maybe it'll be more enjoyable without the extremely distracting performance issues if it runs better on Switch 2

[@Knopey]

Another very intelligent look on the goings-on in the world of Nintendo. I'm very interested in that 2011 study. I think it might be worth a revision after 10+ years in the fast-paced world of gaming, but it really has a bunch of worthwhile implications.

[@be7e4px]

Having played the game I can honestly say there is a lot to enjoy. I can acknowledge the flaws, and feel like the game could have improved in a lot of ways. Specifically in how funny/silly the game is compared to previous titles, as this game is a bit on the unfunny side for me. I would probably rate the game a 7/10 or 8/10. It’s good, accomplishes what it sets out to do, but can grow into a better game. I hope this game does well enough for another in the series so the developers can show what they learned and how they grew since this title.

[@Austin-zc9gp]

When I saw the IGN review I said to myself “it can’t be that bad”. And I finished the game 2 days ago, and I rate it a 9/10. This game was amazing, and all the problems IGN had, I never had a problem with.

[@taftuto62]

I am a old generation player born in the 90’s. I have played a lot of games in my life. I will solely focus on the Mario and Luigi series. I personally do not like the newer games that they are making. Mario and Luigi brothership has more negative than positive. I 100% every single Mario and Luigi RPG. Let’s talk about the positive of the game. The battle system was improved and it’s one of the best. It has good character designs and unique mechanics with Luigi. One of the few biggest disappointment I had was the boring storyline and the map designs were not creative with the lack of new enemies. I felt like the game gave me more boring side quests and puzzles than the main story gameplay. The game only has few extra bosses for experienced players to tackle on and the rest is just not challenging enough. I just felt that the game needed improvement on the main story and map designs. People that loved this game will not understand how good the other RPG were and comparing to other RPG from the past, this game does not stand out at all. I do give the developers enough credit for trying to make this game work. I will give this game a solid 7/10.

[@cherubin7th]

Yes, but Nintendo needs to do something about that unnecessary flaws. And they need to show some ambition and not just doing 90 % good enough games. How did they look at the menu of Zelda EoW an thought this is good? Of Fi annoying the heck out of you in Zelda SS?

[@shadowsquid1351]

The faster people stop listening to these corporate sites like IGN the better.

[@t_zz8275]

you're so very well spoken, it makes your videos satisfying to listen to

[@nintendoforecast]

Thank you! 😊

[@user-wb8iu1hl6i]

Brothership has 78 critic score and 8.2 user score on Metacritic. Just because the IGN reviewer gave it a 5 instead of an 8 doesn’t mean that it’s reviewing poorly. It’s a fine game with flaws but definitely enjoyable

[@Gonsoi]

i don't think that ign is wrong with mario & luigi, the problem is that they are wrong rating other games that are way more boring than mario & luigi games with a 7/8/9. Games like concord, fifa, cod, triple A woke games and ubisoft games (with the exception of prince of persia)

[@crowmaster9652]

I don't think its ign alone I think people who had the opportunity to review the game were dishonest because they wanted to show up ign review by creating a direct opposite review in no shape or form are either ign or these individuals leaving 10/10 peak reviews being honest thus they see actual reviews and they are 6.5/10 - 8/10 which makes sense the music isn't as great as say paper jam the load screens are long luigi ai is odd the story is very unorganic

[@zarkiwi73]

Never listen to IGN's ratings, the game is obviously not perfect, but it's their first Mario&Luigi game in a while and this one is actually in 3D, the next one will probably be way better

[@Thepietro5000pp]

and are people supposed to review the product that's there or some kind of imagined future game?

[@xenobrina7880]

@@zarkiwi73 Why do we need a next one when they have made the same thing six times in a row? What would Mario and Luigi 7 really do differently to justify the resources over a more fresh idea?

[@sarcasm-aplenty]

A sequel may not come, i heard the developers were bought by Sony

[@zarkiwi73]

@@xenobrina7880 If you think they are all the same then you need to replay them

[@zarkiwi73]

@@sarcasm-aplenty really? well they can still make one with a different studio

[@gintoki48]

I’m just gonna say it, every one here is bashing the IGN review and I agree IGN (as a company) is crap. What everyone doesn’t understand is that the individual who wrote the review for Brothership (Logan Plant) is a long time M&L fan and a frequent speaker in the ign Nintendo podcast (NVC) his review has actual valid critiques. I didn’t see an angry person trying to bomb a game I saw a disappointed long time fan. Everyone is willing to turn a blind eye to this because I understand it’s been a long M&L drought but if the game doesn’t meet someone’s expectations then why should they support it? So Nintendo keeps pumping out newer games of the same quality that doesn’t meet those standards?

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Doesnt matter if he's a long time M&L RPG fan. He wont be in IGN if he's not part of the problem. He would have long been removed if hes not.

[@keyboardcowgirl69]

nintendo shills dont give a shit, you can think the latest game is a 7/10 and they'll crucify you for not giving it at least a 9

[@xenobrina7880]

Also, Logan has been behind multiple other Mario reviews this year that people seem to agree with. He gave TTYD a 9 and Princess Peach Showtime a 7 for instance, and nobody got mad. Nintendo fans get so upset when anyone, including someone extremely familiar with the company, dares to critique them. It is maddening

[@gintoki48]

@@xenobrina7880 When I have a discussion with my bro we call them “The White Knights of Nintendo” Where literally Nintendo can do no wrong! Don’t bash the game you guys! Just shut up, consume product, get excited for next product! If Nintendo wants the majority of people to enjoy their games they should do better next time in the next installment.

[@seacliff217]

I agree with this. The 5 only seems significantly harsher because mediocre and bad games still get generous scores from IGN. I think Brothership is underwhelming, to the extent that while I think a 5 is too harsh I'm understanding as to why someone would rate it so. The problem is that it feels very out of place on the same scale that gave buggy messes like Star Wars Outlaws a 7.

[@sashielefreet1799]

I don't get the hate on this game. I'm 20 hours in, taking my time and having a lot of fun.

[@MrGuy__]

this game seemed to have had a good bit going against it before the reviews came out. mario rpg fatigue had no doubt set in, as we already saw with ttyd, and no matter the quality it's taking a risk by having a new developer (with a few veterans) make an original game, compared to two remakes. whether or not it stands up to previous entries, it's going to be a bit different, and when you're not blowing people away like with botw, that can be a turnoff for fans. and you *have* to get the approval of fans, because in a case like this, i think the potential upside lies mostly in attracting other core-ish users (a la metroid dread), not so much the general public when considering the overload of mario games lately. i know we're in the midst of a holiday season, so that'll help, but i think even the best-case scenario was always that it would sell worse than mario rpg. i hope nintendo take these factors into account, though, not so much blame the game itself, or regardless give the team another chance, with their acquired experience, in a more favorable position schedule-wise (if kadokawa aren't bought out by sony.. like you said though maybe nintendo will still keep pursuing the series)

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

No one will believe youre not Logan Plant using a dummy account. Just saying.

[@MrGuy__]

@@DontKnowDontCare6.9 who??? lmao

[@LemonicParade]

Oh look, its Logan Plant! Yeah, no. No one's gonna believe thats not a smurf account. Suspiciously defensive and detailed.

[@PeruvianPotato]

​​@@LemonicParadeNintendrone moment

[@chrisbarnes3660]

Gotta say having played it through, the performance is fine, very minor frame drops that don’t affect the controller inputs no matter what anyone says. People have a real bee in their bonnnet about minor shit like this (eg Echoes of Wisdom) when they should save their whinging for a low performance game that deserves it (Pokemon Scarlet/Violet) Having said that I do think the art style is ugly as sin and the battle mechanics do get stale after a while so it’s far from perfect, 7/10 seems fair to me

[@Dr._Nicolas]

i wish youtubers would learn to ignore ign more and stop making videos about that 5 number

[@Thepietro5000pp]

why do people even care about that review? just move on, not like it ruins the enjoyment of the game for you, right...?

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

A game dev hiring a consultation firm in cahoots with IGN gets an automatic 7. Like Concord, the game that shut down after less than a month. Or Ma'am Solo. Game dev also gets hit piece articles attacking gamers who complain about the game through affiliated game journalists like Kotaku.

[@jtscorecrystal]

I love this game and can’t put it down and it seems like its still doing good on the eshop

[@neroclaudius8502]

I like the game and only have some nitpicks. My main thing is I really wish it were more tactile, like when you press A to pull, it would have been more fun if we had to move or spin the joystick too.

[@imerebus]

makes sense. I played the remake of M&L BIS and loved it just to hear 5 years later that the game was bad.

[@YoumiiZen]

Im pretty sure most reviews for games come from the first hour or so of the games. They "dont have time" to play the whole thing. I myself havent played mario and luigi brothership but i bet it gets better after the turorial section

[@Mario_Stuff]

it's true, it has a slow start but gets better later on

[@ibbsters6212]

It's sad that i kmow that obscure Stephen merchant mention is from hello ladies

[@m.m.2897]

They also just gave The Penguin a 5 as well so… they’re probably on something right now

[@kyleroberts9857]

This review doesn't pertain directly to this particular video, but I just want to say since KZbin tells me I'm in the top 0.3% of your viewers that I do enjoy watching your videos. The fact they're based on statistics and facts rather than so much speculation like most gaming KZbinrs makes it a good watch even if the subjects are sometimes what my friends would call nerdy. Lol. And plus my hillbilly gay ass from Kentucky just imagines some fancy brit speaking over a cup of tea and it is almost an ASMR experience. Keep up the good work. 😁

[@nintendoforecast]

Haha - thank you for being in the top 0.3%! Didn't know YT did stats like this but I appreciate it. And yes, I am often speaking over a cup of tea (or sometimes green tea with orange and lotus flower)!

[@kyleroberts9857]

@nintendoforecast see... Fancy Brit tea. Lol. That's awesome. And as far as the 0.3% thing, go to the "you" page and if it's like mine there will be a 2024 gaming recap. My favorite game was totk and Nintendo forecast was my favorite gaming tuber. "Watched 25x more than the average N.F. subscriber." And gladly so.

[@blindspuut]

Even if 5 is pretty abysmal, after watching Nathaniel Bandy's video, most of the criticisms actually written by IGN are fair- you can't excuse a sloppy pace, or timed side quests

[@sayzar9474]

The criticisms may have been valid but that score was ridiculous

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

​@@sayzar9474 only ridiculous thing about it is its too high. That dreck deserved a 2/10 at most

[@sayzar9474]

@ if the game wasn’t for you then sure. The game is still not a bad game. 7/10 at worst

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

@sayzar9474 its dog ass

[@PownicMania5000]

Timed side quests are literally RPG staples, you can argue HOW Brothership does it (Which to me was honestly pretty good) but that in of itself isn't really bad. I remember seeing people got pissed at it the moment it got shown from a leak and it was obvious who has and who hasn't played RPGs

[@FoundOasis]

Bruh I played the game for like a hour and it seemed good to me but this game new outlets are so fake bruh the will rate shit games much higher just stop rating.

[@medicami]

It's a problem when reviews are critical to push improvement, this hurts the industry!!! But if a game is a perfect 10/10 from multiple sources only before review embargo lifts, clearly the game is just good, criticism is bad, just look at all the tens! Paid reviews? Clearly you've had a bit too much to think. Stop thinking! Just make all choices based on a reductive generalized score meant to provide a broad description of a nuanced perspective and never look any deeper.

[@Starkor990]

Frankly, I don't care much, and neither should the fans. You like the game ? Good ! Just enjoy it and ignore the negative reviews. The game is flawed, but it's still a good game in my opinion, like 7/10. I think what got people riled up was the fact that they gave brothership the same score that other really shitty games like Concord or even Dustborn got in IGN reviews. But really, you should just enjoy the game. But don't be an idiot and say that the game is perfect. It's not. The fact it's the first mario and luigi games in like a decade doesn't make it immune to criticism. And if you are worried that Nintendo will let the franchise "die" again, if they continue many other franchises like Metroid after Other M, or even Paper mario after Sticker star, I don't why a slightly mixed reception would make them stop making any other Mario & Luigi games in the future.

[@Humbledandelion]

Switch is 10 years old. Wth did they expect.

[@SoloBoardGamingKnight]

There have been many times when I have purchased games because I’m interested in it yet the critics panned it. Nier was a phenomenal game that, at the time, received 4/10’s almost all the way across the board. From then on, I only follow my interests and my opinions.

[@SoloBoardGamingKnight]

For anyone interested, I’ve played Brothership for over almost 35 hours. I can’t say how far I am into the game but it seems to me that I’m about halfway in. Overall, I have enjoyed the game immensely. Sure, it’s not perfect but the enjoyment I’ve had with the game has eclipsed its shortcomings. The writing took a long time to pick up but I like where it’s going right now. The combat has become much more challenging than it was during the first half. Overall, however, even at its lowest point, I never considered the game bad or boring. It was still really good. My thought is that the game happened to be much longer than critics wanted it to be. I review board games and I receive review copies from companies. With that written, I still buy my own games and truly love the hobby. I write this to say that I create videos at my pace. Some board games require a much greater time investment than others. Due to that, I space my video reviews accordingly. Video game reviewers from big sites have time constraints when reviewing games. They’re competing to be the first out the door to receive the most views possible. That, in my opinion, was and is the problem when it comes to the reviews of Brothership. I’m playing Brothership because I enjoy the series and I am playing it on my time and at my pace. Therefore, I get to soak in the experience and truly enjoy the adventure. Now, if I had to finish the game in less than a week, maybe my opinions would drastically be impacted, which is what I truly believe happened here. All this to say, if you are interested in this or any game, go for it. Experience it and come up with your own conclusions. Game on!

[@jellyface401]

I remember there was a lot of hype around the metroid games back on the gamecube/wii era but the bad reception of other m put the franchise on a comma. Like a holywood movie realising poorly and having to wait 4-5 years to make another movie with the same ip.

[@yungsamus6662]

5/10 is harsh in my opinion but it's 6 or 7 in my opinion. The game runs very badly and the loading times are ridiculous. This game screams for a stable fps 30 or 60 it doesn't matter as long as it's stable. Nintendo needs to patch this ASAP

[@RobotMusic10110]

Can I get a genuine recommendation on this game? I loved Superstar Saga but if they kinda just whiffed it, I might not check it out...

[@AnimalXing]

Eh, it’s more like a 7/10, but IGN’s criticisms are valid

[@OChunks]

Reject number scores, they are the problem.

[@Mike-ge7pe]

To me it’s a stripped-down version of Super Mario RPG, a tried and true, wash-rinse-repeat Nintendo title. Nothing great, nothing terrible. Somewhere in the 7 to 8.5 range seems right.

[@HoboWithAShotgun]

This is what happened to TOTK imo. So much negativity by the pc fans with BG 3 and botw fans trashing tears for no reason. TOTK clears both but especially botw because it does everything better and with more things to do, again in my opinion

[@Starkor990]

I may love TOTK, but seriously saying it's better than Baldur's gate 3 is just not true, tho I do respect your opinion. As for breath of the wild, I think the only thing that it has over TOTK is the overall story, eveb tho I didn't mind the sotry of TOTK has much as other people.

[@EmeraldMan25]

Actually I agree with that. I would say that TOTK and Brothership are both great games that I have a lot of nitpicks with.

[@jellyface401]

I don't buy aliexpress withouth a review because of fake stores on amazon i trust buying with no review.

[@1krubby]

Tbh I find the game rly underwhelming and probably won’t finish it despite rly wanting it to succeed.

[@kalehamblin1098]

Good content. But at the end of the day if you just make a good game that will shine through. Thousand year door and mario rpg remakes were incredible. This game not so much

[@kamchikamchi2737]

I don’t trust most reviews, especially “official reviews”. As official review sites and places are fake, if not rigged customers reviews as they sometimes delete people reviews to balance out the their narrative or their alignment. Heck I won’t even surprise by bot or fake reviewers. We don’t know the actual total sales and this is the holiday, so people are prepping for the holidays and we already had some good games that came out from the past 2 months like Zelda, Dragon Ball, and Sonic. So people wallet are a bit tight and saving up for the holiday. If I had to say this is that these offcial review site like ign and even metacritic the one that will have an impact ON THEMSELVES! People are less trusting to these sites, especially bio ware recent game that gotten so much heat that sales failed and customers were angry at them when those who trusted the reviews and not surprises here as many were bribe to make the review sound good and all know too well to these bait trick. They should focus on customers review (if possible. Hopefully not rigged) then official reviewers.

[@Joeybott]

before I watch this video I want it said that, despite the IGN review, I still went into this game open minded, but it ended up disappointing me. and that sucks. I love the original four games and was hoping this revival would revive the identity that paper jam single-handedly murdered. this game does not achieve such. very rarely do I find myself speeding through dialogue but this game is so boring that I have no choice.

[@smcclure3545]

excellent literature wrap-in 👍

[@ninjashep5264]

As someone who has played Mario & Luigi Bowser Inside Story (DS & 3DS versions) & luigi dream team there’s a few reasons I skipped Mario brothership - Reviews have been pretty bad - They overhauled the controls for Luigi for the worst… no longer feeling like the two are together but rather Luigi following Mario & sometimes not well - plus instead of controlling Luigi with B it’s not A & then B…. No thanks - bad timing release wise imo When it comes to timing I got the new Mario party to play with friends as my holiday title. Alongside a Black Friday pickup or two I’m done with buying new games for the year.. then there’s a slow period in the new yr where between a holiday game, Black Friday games & Christmas…. There’s a period in time where you’re good & chilling with your collection. Not to mention 2025 is the year of Switch 2 & the hype is focused on that & the first calendar year titles…

[@BlackBeltGamers88]

Critic reviews are garbage, have been for a while now. I'll wait until peer reviews come out from independent small reviewers. The game is a high 8.5 for me, it's a great game, lots of content, can play it at your own pace.

[@Switch_Lens]

Who's team Marmite 💪 ?

[@SharpEdgeSoda]

don't swear off reviews. Swear off numbers though jesus christ. If I could make review numbers illegal I would. THere is NO benefit unless you argue "I'm lazy and I don't want to think about things." High Scores do just as much damage, especially if you've bought a "well reviewed" peice of trash on Amazon without reading reviews.

[@robertwegner7993]

Who cares about IGN? Didn’t they give Wukong just 5/10 points?

[@JardsonJean]

dude wtf are you saying wukong got an 8 from ign

[@iSalahMan]

I didn’t like the game but idk if it’s a 5/10. No more then 7 but honestly the ign review may of killed the franchise

[@kindaepicngl1671]

Not all hope is lost for these games though, theres always potential for the series to have their surrogate successors much like wario land helped spawn anton blast and pizza tower

[@maacha286]

Its sadly a mediocre game just like mario bros wonder. These games lack the nintendo magic. It’s hard to explain but I feel like bowsers inside story was a much better game in every aspect. Mario wonder was a good game but it doesn’t just have that feel of a game like mario bros ds. I don’t know whats wrong with nintendo but they need to start making interesting and atmospheric games again.

[@kindaepicngl1671]

I feel like smb wonder and the first nsmb on the ds are equally as good but to each their own

[@maacha286]

@@kindaepicngl1671 yeah i just dont see the fun in wonder since the game is so easy. nintendo even said that they removed throwable yoshi eggs because it would be too hard for players. too hard indeed if the target audience is toddlers. absolute toddler game

[@kindaepicngl1671]

@@maacha286 yeah im not the biggest on this new design philosophy of nintendo's either even if i do have a soft spot for wonder. The jospeh anderson video on odyssey goes into this in good detail

[@sarcasm-aplenty]

Who owns IGN?

[@malachitep4276]

Pokemon mystery dungeon If you know, you know not to take IGN seriously, ever (Also, the anti-woke grift has ruined all actual discussion of games I swear)

[@despeinado340]

I'll be honest, it did have an effect on me. I've felt let down ever since Dream Team, so this one had a high bar to clear if it was to get me back into the series. I'd need to see it being praised as much as Bowser's Inside Story for me to care.

[@Malik-1994]

If you won’t play another game because its not as good as Bowser Story its overating that game and you won’t enjoy nothing if you are stuck in the past with nostalgia.

[@despeinado340]

@@Malik-1994 I won't deny I'm a bit nostalgic, but I don't think it's wong to expect similar quality. The game just doesn't look AS appealing, that's it.

[@kindaepicngl1671]

​@@Malik-1994when we get a mod for brothership that makes the pacing and gameplay as quick and crunchy as the original BiS im playing that day 1

[@Water90435]

This game is slop not gonna lie

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

Fr the nintentards dont wanna hear it though 😂

[@OChunks]

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 Excuse me your lordship, I forgot we weren't allowed to have opinions.

[@ThePaulineu]

I wish I didn't care so much about what other people think. I've been so excited about this game, I asked for it for christmas, but I've been saddened by the discussion around it. I've been seeking out (cherry picking) positive reviews about the game to make me feel better, but it doesn't really. I just wish they hadn't come out at all with any reviews and I could experience the game with my own unbiased opinion! Being human is tough.

[@varietychan]

you remind me of Karl Jobst with your script

[@malo932]

Ign is not a reliable source

[@eatvietnam2682]

I unsubscribed to IGN games 2 weeks ago Love the Steve Merchant reference

[@SuperJoselink]

They gave it a 5 because it’s not lame, gay and has a chick in it.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

really nuanced insight

[@Mauricio0973]

Yall really blame minorities on everything huh

[@Alfenium]

They hate it because Connie is a cute lolipop

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

You realize nintendo is at the forefront of woke messaging in games right? Microsoft and Sony sell wokeness to adults, nintendo use their platform to brainwash children 😂

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

This game is dog ass

[@keyboardcowgirl69]

majoras mask 3d and mh4u era is 100x stronger than anything since, botw and odyssey arent worth all of the other shit

[@GamesAndAnimes]

In the past many reviews ruined me games, that I many years later play or I saw some essay or retrospective on those games and get annoyed on those reviews, that put my away from interesting games. Example: Pokken Tournament, the review talked about a shallow gameplay, but that was totally wrong. As I played it for the first time it was fun and interesting so I brought the DX version on the Switch. I experimented with the system and found I couple fun good combos. This game is a blast and one of my favourite fighting games. I only consult reviews, if I miss informations about a game or want to hear another opinion after I played it for my self. As I was younger I used them as a buy criterion. A error, that I will never do again, but also we get today much more informations about a game, if we want to buy it or not.