Mario & Luigi: Brothership's BIGGEST CHANGE

Is Luigi an NPC in Mario & Luigi: Brothership?
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I've noticed a big change to how Mario & Luigi: Brothership approaches controlling Luigi compared to previous games.
It seems like this game is not as concerned as making you feel like you are controlling both Mario and Luigi. Instead, Luigi can sometimes go and move on his own.
How does this affect the game and does this really matter in the grand scheme of things?
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[@muffinboggers8275]

You know if they're going to separate Mario and Luigi like the way they did in Brothership they could've at least added a multiplayer That would've actually been awesome

[@TheGameCubicle]

I should’ve said that in the video!

[@ThatBoyGlitchy2]

fr dude thats what I thought when I played

[@troigrl]

We don’t need multi player for everything

[@isaiahjackson3800]

@@troigrlwho said everything needs to be multiplayer?

[@ThatBoyGlitchy2]

@@troigrl this game is perfect for it since it never has had one

[@legendarylydon2171]

Ngl I feel it’s like that so you see Luigi have more self confidence

[@HL_652]

I don't think gameplay should be compromised for story in any video game. Especially not a Mario one.

[@Hamantha]

@@HL_652yeah, Dream Team did that well

[@legendarylydon2171]

@ understandable I see where they was going with it though, and I can respect the effort but I see why not everyone’s a fan

[@StevenJones851]

I like that but understand if everyone doesn't like that

[@legendarylydon2171]

⁠@@StevenJones851ye I understand people problem but honestly, I’ve looked back at some of the older gameplay. He just follows you then as well you move Mario and Luigi walks with him and he’s not entirely and npc bro moves still require you to use both but that’s just what I think at least

[@theCandiest]

Ironic how in a game called *BROTHER SHIP* you control Luigi less than the other way more than in other games

[@Rediscool9]

The Brothership part comes from the story and the fact that Luigi can think independently from Mario, smart aleck.

[@theCandiest]

@Rediscool9 I was just making a joke..?

[@Rediscool9]

@@theCandiest Oh, well then I’m sorry

[@StevenJones851]

​@@Rediscool9i see what you mean

[@highward5292]

For me the jumping automatically is actually an improvement, i just wished for the game where brothers could’ve just swap places so then if luigi goes in front then mario would jump automatically behind him.

[@sacripan4425]

"You can play the games you want but I will never be controlled" -Angry Luigi, 2024

[@Glitchyy07]

The best way I can describe Luigi is that he behaves more like a partner character from Paper Mario, and even then I feel like you have more control of partners than him

[@beatlejuice1165]

My biggest gripe with the game isn’t the loading screens or the framerate issues. I can live with those. Where I draw the line, though, is the removal of the Lucky dial thing when you level up. That thing was a staple to all the games and it’s just gone. What the hell?

[@Austin-zc9gp]

Well it was like that in Paper Jam also.

[@kilixgamer9914]

probably so people don´t get overpowered by having one stat pretty high up

[@Rediscool9]

You freaking hypocrites cry about how modern Nintendo games being “easy” yet you want a feature that fundamentally makes a game easier.

[@StevenJones851]

Maby to not have people be Overpowered

[@epicomar8931]

they removed that in paper jam

[@admiralpotato1809]

In previous mario & luigi games it to me felt like you were playing mario AND luig since you could usually switch to him in the overworld

[@firstlast2602]

i'm gonna type a long comment but yeah, this to be honest. idk why they remove the feature to switch with luigi on the front since 3ds superstar saga remake, now it's just feels like i'm playing mario only with luigi sometimes doing certain luigi only tasks from time to time and luigi even moves automatically. these new features makes luigi feels like an npc, on the overworld that is. switching with luigi is more interactive since it lets players make decisions of whether using mario *or* luigi for certain obstacles or puzzles, now it's triggered with "luigi logic". overworld special moves in this game also always involves both brother and not seperately, i miss using *each* brother moves like using luigi as a surfboard in superstar saga or using mario as a blimp in bowser inside story. i mean, these new special moves are great but it's more fun to also have unique special moves for each brother like in previous m&l games for more insteresting gameplay. i also don't like how they make luigi choose blocks with A but then attacks with B, it should be B button all the way for luigi, this is just weird design 😕 with all that said, i still enjoy brothership since at least it stays true to it's mario&luigi roots, unlike that 3ds paper mario

[@MaddyRaddy9]

All they would've needed to do to fix Luigi was to make the player press B and Y when he got his Luigi logic. I am perfectly fine with him walking off whenever I press the L button, but I do not like that the buttons aren't even necessary as soon as you press L.

[@Ars-Nova258]

NPC means Non Player Character You *play* as Luigi in Brothership. This thumbnail has the same logic of asking Popcorn is Corn.

[@M_JackOfAllTrades]

Exactly, just because you don't control ALL of his moves manually doesn't mean he's an NPC!

[@MRSHREKJR]

He is an NPC outside of battle

[@bbworks159]

I think Dream Team or something had the option to change the B/A settings. My mind was blown when I went to settings only to find the option wasn’t there in Brothership

[@Realshadow77]

8:49 The thing is, if Mario and Luigi are separated far enough, like Luigi falling from a great height, then the game will just straight up take away control of Mario from you and regroup the brothers even if that means throwing you from a cliff. I would prefer being punished for my own mistakes instead of the AI's.

[@multiversegamer6587]

I mean, it seems that the tracking system won’t let Luigi fail to follow you unless you physically try to make him not follow you

[@DilHark]

​@@multiversegamer6587 It happened to me where he just stopped following me after bouncing on a flower and while I arrived at the top of the mountain, he fell down and the game just took control and made me fall down with him even tho I didn't do anything wrong.

[@multiversegamer6587]

@@DilHark that’s weird I haven’t experienced any problems with Luigi

[@DilHark]

@@multiversegamer6587 that was at the end of the island with the flowers that make you spin in the air. There was like three flowers in a row almost at the top of the mountain and at like the second or third, he just went backwards and fell all the way down

[@DilHark]

@@multiversegamer6587 and he almost did it twice but I managed to reach the plug at the end of the level before the game takes control of mario again lol

[@glizzyrodriguez4720]

It's the only Mario and Luigi rpg game so I hope the sales are high to get another one. Let's keep the series going guys. Don't let Mario and Luigi brothership be the last of the series.

[@spugspence8607]

Stuff like this is why games get worse and then everyone complains about it as if they didnt cause it. Buying it just so the series doesnt die will not help. If they get the most sales ever for a M&L game here, they might even start making more changes that make luigi more of an npc.

[@Maho3942]

Getting chibi robo flashbacks, but seriously I love the mario & luigi series, however the direction that was taken after paper jam and this game, I dont like that. Paper jam is flat out generic and boring, brothership changes to 3D and is more cinematic, I dont like that for a mario & luigi game. The battles for brothership feel like it has a little too much going on. Having both bros attack when selecting a simple jump or hammer attack, longer load times, and after leveling up you can't put points into stats like the other games. If this is the direction nintendo wants to take with the series, then I'm sorry, but just let it rest

[@StevenJones851]

@@Maho3942 i agree with this the game is good but some of the new changes are quit annoying

[@Rediscool9]

@@Maho3942 That is the most petty freaking reason for wanting to let a series die I’ve ever seen. The fact that you people have the freakish audacity to call yourselves “fans” genuinely sickens me.

[@soilthestillborn4949]

As a massive Mario and Luigi Stan, i feel the complete opposite I feel like Luigi is actually getting the love he deserves rather than being bullied and called useless and a shadow to Mario all the time He actually is useful for once outside of dream team, hes not just Mario but green His and Mario's moves have their own unique spin, they help each other And most of all Luigi has autonomy like Mario does, how dare Luigi have autonomy and have more freedom, because that's what being brothers is, two dudes being helpful to each other and one guy is different Luigi feels like he's his own self, while Mario just kinda exists alongside him, they both help solve puzzles and Luigi gets rid of a lot of monotony of some side shit Luigi is the most useful he's been in a long time and is finally no longer just Mario's loser shadow Infact I would argue Mario feels more like an NPC despite being the character controlled character No character development, while Luigi is out there thriving, Mario just kinda exists more to support Luigi, tho for a lot of the puzzles they both put in equal 50/50 so it helps balance the fact Luigi is the most useful

[@goldlemon7962]

I completely agree. I don’t see the issues these people are complaining about. Both characters have their weaknesses and strengths, which they work together to adventure on. I love this game so much. It gives off the same vibes the other games did

[@soilthestillborn4949]

@goldlemon7962 for sure, I think it's just the Luigi stans that are upset but like the weirdo Luigi stans, cuz I swear every game with Luigi in it ends up pissing off Luigi fans somehow 💀 This game is filled with quote "controversy" when it's really just a vocal minority online and ign being ign, KZbinrs are just milking it

[@goldlemon7962]

@@soilthestillborn4949 Yeah ign always looks for the smallest flaws in games to make a big deal of. What’s funny is people started complaining not even a day after it released. Talk about giving the game a chance

[@kilixgamer9914]

That´s true since these new characters don´t know luigi they only see what luigi can truly do, do the same as his brother and even more with his luigi logic, he´s not being bullied or called loser, he´s taken as important or even more by the sage of concordia as necessary to beat the final boss, and you can see that (i won´t say what it is so no spoilers) but the point is, luigi is treated right in this game and he can really prove how useful he is that´s one of my favorite things about this game to be honest

[@StevenJones851]

​@@soilthestillborn4949Luigi Stan's be Annoying sometimes

[@supermaximglitchy1]

They could have gone the superstar saga route with the separation sections allowing you to switch between the two

[@fireplayboy305]

this is exactly how i feel with brothership luigi feels WAY too much like a npc :(

[@StevenJones851]

sadly he does

[@BoredomIncarnate16]

8:49 Sounds like a skill issue tbh, just put your thumb between the A and B buttons n' press them at the same time, simple as that.

[@TheGameCubicle]

Haha yes that’s what I do now in those games.

[@mk8-mkwil117]

True but can get annoying sometimes if Luigi falls down having to climb all the way back up can be annoying sometimes especially to me I find it bad on some virtual areas that are connected loading areas like dream team as an example just kill it for me to backtrack just to get back where u were

[@jada8047]

The developers didn't want children to struggle remember adults it's a kids game 😂

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

Some games even just let you press X to make them both jump at the same time

[@vicrusty9534]

Yeah if anyone has ever had trouble with this simple mechanic… game journalist levels of incompetency

[@rayman2902]

So far, I’ve heard most people say that they don’t like how disconnected the Luigi can feel but honestly I do I feel like it’s a really interesting take on the normal formula where you can have Luigi go off and do mini task

[@Mr2Secs]

While auto-jumping and menu commands could be solved by simple settings (which for reasons beyond my imagination are somehow not there), I think the L-button actions are indicative of missed potential in something that would've gone greatly with how much they're trying to make this game feel like a fresh take on the Mario & Luigi formula: **multiplayer.** We all know how Superstar saga has some sort of Co-op with the Gameboy Player, but that's just the equivalent of letting someone else put their thumb on your B button to act as Luigi when needed. This game literally has Luigi moving on his own, and gives him a Hammer button that I'm yet to see how it's supposed to be used in the overworld. An optional multiplayer mode where a 2nd controller can move Luigi (and forces the Bros. reuniting cutscene when far away like the game already does with the AI Luigi) and do the same actions the game has ready for AI-mode Luigi would've been so awesome, and make sense with the theme of building bonds, since what builds a bond better, than doing all of these fun action commands with your friend by your side.

[@artstrange3230]

The only Mario & Luigi game where I felt I could play as Luigi was the original Superstar Saga, because: - You could swap who the leading brother was, thus giving you access to different Bros. Field moves. - Mario and Luigi would be separated and would take their actions individually with you being at the helm. This level of team work was really important in Superstar Saga and has never really been the same since. After that, every other Mario & Luigi game felt like they simply wanted Mario to be the main character with Luigi along for the ride. The only other exception was Dream Team, but only briefly because Mario would have to take the backseat and let Luigi tackle the big boss battles on his own... Which was just par for the course in that game just as it was for Bowser's Inside Story, where Bowser was the main character and Mario & Luigi were along for the ride, but still held importance in the plot. I would've wanted, like you, to have the ability to move Luigi independently of Mario using the right stick and left stick, but it doesn't bother me too much. As I've said, every other Mario & Luigi game was already trying to make Luigi less important, than he was in OG Superstar Saga.

[@_Veno]

Luigi needs more love.. As you said, the game feels more like a Mario game featuring Luigi as an NPC. Big L on Nintendo for that, otherwise it’s a good game! Edit: HOLY- this is my first comment that got more than 5 likes XDDD

[@miguelcrafter2997]

Indeed big L😂

[@marioandultrachap]

Yeah games a mixed bag probably the most mixed bag game I ever played can't praise it too much but can't criticize it too much either

[@Emily12471]

Probably just a result of alpha dream going under, and the transition to these new guys who don't nescesarily get the fine details

[@Rediscool9]

@@marioandultrachap You’re a mixed bag.

[@BenitoBeni1414]

Im surprised that “if its not broken dont fix it” didnt show up

[@PoyoDesuka]

Pretty much all of these issue could easily be fixed in a patch, but damned be if they add another config setting other than Rumble.

[@DE23]

What's worse about there not being an option for battle controls is that WE ALREADY HAVE A MARIO RPG ON SWITCH WITH TWO DIFFERENT BATTLE CONTROL SCHEMES YOU SWITCH BETWEEN IN AN OPTIONS MENU

[@Davidbruh6969]

I think Nintendo forgot what a Mario and Luigi game was, but honestly this game is still pretty enjoyable

[@LittleRedSlime]

Idk I really like it(other than the selection) for some reason it makes me feel like Luigi as a character is more alive, but I dunno.

[@ToppSpeed88]

I think it was probably to make overworld traversal a little easier especially for people that don't play games much. I remember when I first played a Mario & Luigi game I was like 5 and making jumps was hard for me because I couldn't get the timing down for Luigi because I had to delay his jump compared to Mario's, but nowadays that's not an issue and I like that you control both fully in the rest of the series. I think they should keep this, but make it an option to have him fully under your control, just because the ability to have either is always nice.

[@ToppSpeed88]

OOPS YOU TOUCHED ON THIS I HADN'T GOTTEN THERE YET THAT'S MY FAULT

[@jada8047]

Adults have to remember kids play these games. They need something easier

[@trunguss]

​@@jada8047No they don't. Adults were kids when they played the older games.

[@Adri564style]

yeah, especially there are puzzles in this game that would be horrendous if luigi didnt autojump

[@diamondsteve201]

@@trunguss Yeah? They were also inexpiance as well when they were kids, your point?

[@miguel83883]

The B not working for the luigi selection thing tripped me up for like 2 hrs I always kept pressing B since I've played every game prior to brothership and now this was soo weird I mean ig it can be simpler for newcomers but idk I also went to the settings to check that out just to be disappointed with 1 setting 😭

[@Hamantha]

I feel like you don’t even control Luigi anymore, he doesn’t even jump quite right with the B button. They probably wanted to streamline it, but in doing so they kinda lost the plot a bit and it’s upsetting

[@Adri564style]

in my opinion this change is for the better, because outside superstar saga and dream team, luigi is just a secondary outside battles, yes, i know in paper jam there is a solo luigi section, but in PiT and BiS luigi only works to do the special moves and maybe to hit a enemy. in superstar saga you could separate luigi and do different stuff like special puzzles, solo mario sections and solo luigi sections, dont forget about those special moves like jumps, hammers or hands. in dream team the luiginary moves that are just a special thing only luigi can do and now in brothership luigi can do more stuff, like auto hammer while mario can do another stuff, or special puzzles, like the green and red pads (there are 2 variants of this puzzle), or another puzzles involving luigi, not just "special moves" like in the other games (PiT, BiS and paper jam) edit: and because luigi is "separated from mario" doesnt mean luigi is just a npc, this game adds more luigi areas where luigi feels more usefull than previous games

[@kilixgamer9914]

it makes luigi more alive, even more alive than mario since he´s on his own

[@robertm5110]

I don’t mind Luigi being an NPC, but I do not like having to use A to select Luigi’s commands.

[@EduSolsa]

Since Dream Team, the M^L series has been a exemple of wasted potential with baffling decisions. It lose a lot of ids charm having Luigi going in auto mode, specially since the Switch has the Joy-Cons. They could have done like those puzzle games where you control each character with a different stick. Heck, you could give half of it to a freind or brother (ha) and play in co-op, specially since you use both brothers for even the basic attacks.

[@HerosTheme]

Its really not that big a deal. It actually simplifies monotonous BS having Luigi do stuff on his own sometime.

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

Most, if not all of that monotonous bs only exists because of these changes though. The old games didn't have plucking turnips, smashing tiny crates, and chasing down light orbs

[@HerosTheme]

@Aktedya1-jt7vw i just look at that as the game giving me constant free money at the press of one button. All just perspective i guess.

[@Rediscool9]

@@Aktedya1-jt7vw Uh yeah they fucking did

[@CidCDdrafts]

So much for the year of Luigi... go back into your Mario movie bird cage, "Green Mario".

[@ShyGuyXXL]

My friend told me I would get used to the new controls. I'm now 25 hours into the game and I still think my thumb is on B when Luigi jumps against the attack block. Because he always jumps with B everywhere else in the game.

[@Nate9-9]

I do see the differences of how Luigi is handled has obvious changes, but I did get used to it over time. I also understand how it possibly goes against the theme the series has always had. One change of controls I do like is how you use the right stick to choose overworld bro moves. I never really liked how you pick and switch between these abilities in other games in the series. The right stick feels very intuitive, imo.

[@jacksonbyers3711]

These complaints are very over the top!!! I am having fun with this game and the change with not controlling Luigi for the most part is fine by me!!! I do agree that needing to press the A button for Luigi to attack is very strange and needs to be changed next game. I still feel like it’s a Mario & Luigi game and you still control him in the battles which is more than enough!!!

[@jada8047]

I'm not a RPG fan but I don't think any RPG has where you can control all of them while moving only fighting... That would be annoying in a 30 hr game having to use both analog to control both an A to jump while moving an B to jump with Luigi while moving.. I think they did it right control Luigi when they have to work together.. It's faster....

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

​​@@jada8047Not an RPG, but I did play a game called Cereza And The Lost Demon where you move 2 characters like this. It worked cause you could make them join together, and act like you're just playing as 1 character. I think something similar could work with Mario & Luigi, having a button to split up and join together when necessary.

[@oobtty]

I feel like people bloated their expectations of this game playing exactly like the previous ones, even though it's basically been a decade so obviously Nintendo's going to mix it up a little bit.

[@jada8047]

@Aktedya1-jt7vw I understand but I rather control more than one player with just fighting an doin certain obstacles.. Moving with both walking is not a big deal.

[@Adri564style]

i already completed the game and some puzzles would be awful if luigi could solo jump, specially those ones about carrying something, because you need to jump with mario, switch, jump with luigi, switch, and repeat

[@goldlemon7962]

People will complain about anything huh 😂 I don’t see how Luigi’s character is any different from the other games. He follows you around and both brothers work together to push forward. 10/10 game for me

[@MRSHREKJR]

In the other games you control both brothers at the same time. In this one, you play as Mario and have an Ai follow you around

[@goldlemon7962]

@@MRSHREKJR so you’re saying Luigi doesn’t follow Mario in the past games? And you don’t play as both brothers in this? I think wrong

[@AlvinCwk]

Imagine pressing A to select an attack and pressing A again to selecting an enemy, but then pressing B to actually perform the attack. I am confused af

[@PipExists]

5:27 I dont think hes the smarter one , he just thinks differently cuz hes luigi (Its called luigi logic for a reason) Mario just isnt strong enough to think like luigi , LUIGI IS HIM.

[@elpatosad5757]

As far as I saw from gameplays Luigi has more impact on the story than Mario lol

[@ddgaming9717]

I see the argument but i feel like luigi is my brother still and i am mario and my bro is doing is own thing doesnt feel like i am alone if that makes sense at least for me but yeah the A for confirmed for Luigi is awful i hope it gets patched

[@lucashamers3770]

3:50 I did the exact same i also wanted the b to be used and also searched for a way to have it that way

[@cringywafflesquirrel4015]

Me too, that was legit the same comment I just about to make

[@Azuretta-K]

To be honest. They could've had q setting where you could set 2 different controllers to the 2 brothers. Such as the two joycons what'll allow Luigi some freedom. It seems perfect seeing as how the switch has two controllers always.

[@rafalosso170]

Yeah i really dislike that approach to Luigi. It's nowhere near a dealbreaker but i feel future games should go back with this one

[@johnforkner]

Exactly! It’s Mario with Luigi.

[@DraigoDragon]

Yeah It feels weird having Luigi follow me the way he does now...

[@lunamaster123]

The battle change is something that would only trip up people who played the other games. New players likely wouldn't think too much about it. I still think it could have at least been an option. Also, in the older games, you had a block designated to go back that you could hit with the respective button. I never used the L button.

[@UltimateHedgehogShadow]

crazy they have two joycons and didnt think to map each character to a joycon not only to make it multiplayer but it'd give them an excuse to make a Mario & Luigi Nintendo Switch with a Red Joycon and a Green Joycon ... And that kind of marketing is what Nintendo would do.

[@forecasted7]

I think a lot of the changes are alright to be fair. For example, the menu changes, for any new player will probably be no issue, but if you've been a longtime fan it's a bit of an adjustment. As for the overworld changes, It's a bit weird, but I think it does give luigi a very distinct personality. I think they could probably combine the "Luigi Logic" features, with the more tightly knit controlling of both characters from older games for the next game. Otherwise, I think the game has been one of the best in the series so far!!

[@julienkarch334]

funny how its called brothership... yet cant play with my little brother

[@samseesyou30]

Honesty if they just added an option to toggle this in the settings it would be much better

[@Jlopezocasio]

The only changes I’d make is to allow you to change the in battle menu buttons and to make it so you can make Luigi jump without him stopping half the time. He can still do it automatically for those who like it and I can do it myself as well. Otherwise it’s fine for me. This game isn’t as much about teamwork as it is about relationships which is probably why they have sections with brotherly competition to show that it can be slightly complex.

[@LukeForPuns]

I agree - the game is great - but a few fixes would make it excellent: They should patch in manual control for Luigi, let Luigi jump and carry momentum on all surfaces, and cut down the dialogue at the start. The game would also be better if they gave the bros move with fast movement earlier in the game (like PM64), and there were more attack options earlier to get past the 7-10 hour slog at the start.

[@GuyWithAMission]

Missed opportunity imo to add a Coop option for the game about working together as brothers

[@someRandomConeGuy]

Mario Brothership + Luigi

[@moldyreptileyt]

I 100% agree with this, it is also my biggest criticism of the game. I CANT SPAM LUIGI JUMP ON MARIO'S TURN OR VICE VERSA. Definitely going back to dream team after this.

[@tyruku18]

I kind think the reason they did this was because most of the Mario & Luigi Series where you play more Luigi. Like Super Star Saga and Dream Team. While Mario had the same time as the game run, or even less, besides the Tutorial. But I would have loved to see Luigi just controllable. Still have yet to play it.

[@spugspence8607]

He's like a pikmin, he goes through that small opening for mario, you can press a button to make him go off and pick up things or do jumps to solve a "puzzle." Its kinda sad when we have so many games that let you play as multiple characters that you can swap between but instead they didnt take inspiration from those and made him an npc that mario has to allow to do something.

[@ironencepersonal9634]

The game is still pretty recent, I wouldn't be surprised if they patch the game to fix the B button thing later. Otherwise I actually really like having Luigi be an NPC. It feels more "authentic", in a way? Not sure how to describe it. For example, during that one section with the barrel, Luigi does stuff on his own to help get through the section. It really feels more like I am working _with_ Luigi rather than ordering him around myself.

[@supermannygamer2003]

Eh, i think the game is really good despite your gripes with it. Its really un natural using A to select with luigi right after finishing dream team but i can learn to adapt and hope a classic setting is allowed in the future, and luigi being A.I controlled isnt bad, after all the platforming sections in this game wouldve been absolutely unforgiving (to me anyway) if i had to keep luigi in mind, especially since like i said before i came hit off the heels if dream team and i kept miss timing luigis jumps in the over worlds and im hapoy luigi has given luigi character progression. Also im just thankful this game isnt constantly holding your hands the entire way through like dream team. Otherwise the games a solid 7.5 or 8 /10. Its what id call a modern day superstar saga, its experimental and im guessing the devs are testing the waters for future games like superstar saga did many years ago.

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

I’m buying this game later tonight and why Nintendo thats just annoying, and who else where hoping a Mario odyssey enemy was there.

[@TheGameCubicle]

Haven’t played the full game yet but from my understanding almost all the enemies are original which, while they have good designs, I was really hoping for “altered” Mario enemies

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

@ that sucks, I just want Mario odyssey enemies in one other game, not counting that mobile game.

[@rayman2902]

@@TheGameCubicle I will say I would like to see some Mario enemies, but it also does make sense for the fact that they’re not in the mushroom kingdom anymore

[@SuperPrestogamer]

@@rayman2902there are some Mario enemies, just most are the generic; Koopas; goombas, bobbombs, hammer bros

[@Adri564style]

mario odissey is different to mario & luigi saga, in this game are enemies from previous games, like some from PiT, BiS and dream team

[@raydin9485]

I feel that the issue with the B button is fairly self-explanatory. Since Luigi is more controlled by AI (including jumps), the association between A & B buttons and both of the brothers is not as apparent in this title. Honestly, I think that giving Luigi more AI doesn't make him an NPC. In fact, I feel that it really distinguishes him more from Mario, as he is the proactive thinker of the brothers. I can't see how this narrative could be possible if we had equivalent control over them here. You may see this as them being more separate than ever, but I think it characterizes Luigi better than the rest of the games do (yes, there are moments and cutscenes in the previous games that characterize him, but seeing him know what to do on his own is more convincing in my opinion).

[@PandaWithAnASharp]

Honestly all they have to fix this is add an accessibility option to enable or disable auto jump for luigi. That would fix my only personal issue with luigi

[@troigrl]

Well, I never played the other games so I learned how to play this one. Yes he does seem like an NPC

[@joltik2]

It’s kind of nothing point. BUT, when you think about it with the context of the rest of the game. it’s a really good point.

[@Dave__TheArtist]

It’s really not a big deal when you’re selecting an attack with the a button, it literally took me two seconds to get the hang of it lol

[@kilixgamer9914]

I think it was made this way for luigi logic, it would´ve had been hard to make both characters controllable without ruining the luigi logic since it would make it hard to code, like when luigi is in that mode, mario moves and then for luigi? it would make puzzles more tedious and less challenging but more time taking and wouldn´t feel like this is luigi´s doing but a idea he got once and the player recreate it over and over, i think is fine is this way, is true i don´t like the A for selection luigi actions to then be B to attack, bad choice, but the idea of giving luigi more personality rather than the shadow of mario, his own thing, i would say the implement it really well, and like another commentary said luigi doesn´t get bullied or treated wrong here, but as a hero equal or better than mario, he´s not a npc, but his own thing, with his own life and personality, i´m glad this game exist

[@Bob-ombboy]

0:29 is exactly what I thought.

[@neonchaosbreon]

congratulations on putting my thoughts into words. 👍

[@zariaalhajmoustafa2573]

I expected there are two player control second player control Luigi

[@astralbirthvoid02]

He is a friend.

[@gtcproductions4097]

Mario + Luigi Brothership

[@nathanieljones8043]

It's the first game that has 2 joysticks they could have let you control luigi

[@marioandultrachap]

Its so dumb. I kept screwing up hitting A to attack when i meant to B its like whyyy. If your already attacking Mario with A then you get to Luigi then A again A again THEN B can totally screw up your brain.

[@fabiopauli420]

Honestly. As a longtime fan of the series Luigi feels less like an NPC than ever. I really dont understand the complaint at all. In the old Mario and Luigi's except for some scripted events playing just Luigi was basically not a thing at all anyway Being able to give , even just simple, commands with L (for Luigi lmao) makes him feel more controllable than ever Does his pathfinding seam off at times? yes Would it have been great if position switching returned? also yes My biggest gripes with the game if anything rn is the constant cutscenes like you cant go into a new room without having a cutscene And The abysmally handholdy start Also Luigi being controlled with A in battles, whats up with that.

[@dingodaber7799]

I hope Nintendo gets enough hate to add a setting to do the menu for weegee being b in the menu

[@rayman2902]

Amen 🙏

[@robbiekop7]

The guy doing the voice in this video sounds like Arnie Pye in the Sky the helicopter reporter 🚁from The Simpsons

[@t-wrecksthenerdasaur7468]

Ha, I can totally see that.

[@picky9687]

This is actually a really helpful thing to know before buying the game! :)

[@TheGameCubicle]

I still recommend it!

[@nitronix2787]

Ive never played a mario and luigi game before, but theyve always looked interesting and i wanna try buying this one, but can you control luigi outside of the battles or is that it?

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

In old games, Mario and Luigi were kinda glued together. Luigi followed behind mostly, but you still had to make him jump for platforming, and to avoid enemy encounters. In the new game, Luigi is mostly just computer controlled. So no, you don't really play as him outside of battles.

[@nitronix2787]

@Aktedya1-jt7vw well shit guess I'll wait until a discount or something 💀 thanks for letting me know

[@kiarawolfe4723]

@@nitronix2787 well I can answer that better then them, the old games you did have parts you separate as both brothers, so you do sometimes have sections where they can be off on their own, but most is either one or the other in front, especially the first game, do recommend the first one even if you do the remaster version

[@attemptinggamer9888]

I think some of the assited movement is nice but puzzles suffer from removing all control of luigi

[@ashemabahumat4173]

I mean, the action command is literally a qte. I don't see the issue even if I get the sentiment

[@gabrielarmengou3985]

Bro, not even worth it anymore I was hoping I could at least map the joycon buttons for 'multiplayer' But now that Luigi's like this, it's done

[@brandonsclips7741]

I feel like every video I see of this game, I feel like everyone is slowly realizing the guy who reviewed the game for IGN knew what he was talking about, but instead dude just got jumped for having an opinion. I just finished the first couple islands and I'm enjoying it so far for what it is, but even down to the DISTANCE from how far luigi runs from you feels off. It just feels like I'm leading adound an escort mission guy. Not my bro. Luigi used to be right there with Mario. :( The framerate really gets on my nerves as well. Its nothing terrible but idk, 'expect more' from Mario and Luigi and the load times and enemies animations studdering it just added up.

[@trunguss]

Yeah, I always thought the backlash towards that reviewer was odd.

[@andrzej8144]

Hopefully i won't be bothered by this too much when i will buy it next week😓

[@marioandultrachap]

Yeah the coin thing was werid its a cool little mini game but its kind of pointless if were on the same team anyways. Its not like Mario or luigi get a reward for getting more coins

[@AuraPhotonReality]

3:55 Same here

[@ScholarlyNick]

I’m so so glad I found this video, you totally understand where I’m coming from!

[@duel-chip5]

part 1 they changed they because they think it is a problem pressing b to do something so they changed it to an a and i don't like that because when i press a as luigi to choose to attack it makes my brain go wrong and make me think i am playing mario and not luigi because of the change sometimes part 2 yes luigi is basically like an npc but until you choose for luigi to get kidnapped your statement is 50% wrong key word 50% in part 2 part 3 your still right the part where the auto jump doesn't make me happy it makes me wonder why bother make luigi jump if he will auto jump i use his jump to hit the 2nd ? block so i won't feel guilty thinking i am ignoring luigi and i am favoriting maqrio over luigi and the rest yeah i have a problem with that if they just allowed us to switch between luigi and mario like the rest of the mario and luigi this would have been the only thing that would make the game just feel different instead a change

[@gogocooljens]

Im not gonna lie i thought luigi kinda was like an ai wich doesnt make the game bad BUTthe auto jump huge praise for it idc what ppl say i love that change

[@zachjones2588]

Yeah. I agree

[@ignacio4400]

Damn I literally had the same train of thought that what you tell throughout the video 😂

[@thapupfather]

switch 2 gonna be a fail time tendo go the sega route

[@JorArg-c7s]

The dev team isa full new team so im not surprise by the changes

[@superjumpbros64]

Love the game so far, however I have some nitpicks. 1: Luigi and Mario don't feel too connected when moving as they did in other games: I need two things. The B button to fully control Luigi in Battle, and that the Other stick can move luigi to a degree. 2: the Hype music for battles is missing 3: When leveling up, you dont get to add points to whatever category you choose 4: the battle transitions lost their charm, its no longer some shoe,hammer, exclamation, etc. for the transition into battles 5: Loss of Iconic sound effects. But otherwise, good game, just miss these elements from the other games.

[@GreatGonzalez]

What do you mean by hype music

[@superjumpbros64]

@GreatGonzalez like if you go back to the other games, even paper jam, and listen to the final bosses, they are like you are about to die. Furthermore, they all were composed by the same Kingdom Hearts conposer which made them all sound epic, distinct, and unique. Here, while the music still slaps and is nice, it sometimes sounds like a Mario Kart Track. That's all

[@GreatGonzalez]

@@superjumpbros64 oh ok, i haven't gotten to the final boss yet

[@superjumpbros64]

@@GreatGonzalez me either, but the OST was what I really worried about first.

[@aquaponieee]

QUIT HAVING FUN!

[@kaiserwave5977]

Its cause mario is number 1 can’t let Luigi take that away from him

[@serpentmaster1323]

A and B. 1 and 2. It’s not taken away in the original scheme

[@Chronothemeter]

I will still buy the game but this is just frustrating Why all this change ?

[@militantpacifist4087]

Perhaps IGN wasn’t wrong all this time….

[@Scrafydraws]

Just make it go back next time