Hidden London: The Real Battle of Cable Street

[@xpat73]

What happened to the working class between then and now? There is no political activism - its all lager, football and darts and Sky TV. Pathetic what has happened.

[@22grena]

+xpat73 Relax.Jeremy has arrived

[@benjaminhennessy8050]

rerevisionist You can't blame everything on Jews. Either they're the financiers of Socialism or they're Rothschild elitist capitalists. Not both. If anyone is to blame for the degradation of the working class it's American media.

[@masalacult8293]

rerevisionist Nej, det ska det inte lilla skit

[@22grena]

rerevisionist Fuck off fascist

[@22grena]

rerevisionist Fuck off fascist

[@angelahill1890]

My great grandfather and his brothers were involved with the local Communist party and this protest. One of the things I remember being a point was many of the working class men in these areas were also veterans of WWI. They had seen first hand what the fascist movements were doing throughout Europe and they were determined to make sure it didn't arrive on their shores

[@PaquetasCar2147]

Communism!?? Well that's alright then. Not a brutal, tyrannical ideology that's been responsible for the enslavement & murder of millions over the many decades of its existence, oh no not Communism.

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

​@@PaquetasCar2147 Bro stfu the British communists of that day had more patriotism in their pinky finger then Mosley's entire pathetic mob of wanna be Nazi simpletons

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

The Battle of Cable Street increased anti-Semitism, and caused the BUF to have a surge in its support. A peaceful march by patriots was prevented when the police were attacked by Communist thugs.

[@CaesarsLegion1]

Yes but we've seen what Communism had done in eastern europe, and now we see they were right all along and that we should have let Germany go east as they pleased.

[@edelgyn2699]

@Angela My grandmother was there too as a young woman and she often recalled her pride at the solidarity of the ordinary people in fighting against those who would divide British people.

[@nachiket2211]

A glorious chapter in the history of class-conscious political action by the workers.

[@ChelseaPensioner-DJW]

My Dad was 14 at the time and went that day with his older brothers, the reason being they didn't like being told what to think or what to do. He told me when we were watching a program on it saying that it was the Unions that beat the BUF that day was bollocks. There was a Trade Union showing but the majority opposing the BUF were ordinary local people of quite a few nationalities.

[@liamscott1905]

@ChelseaPensioner-DJW Fascism is a trade unionist movement by definition.

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

​@@liamscott1905 And who ends up controlling the trade Unions in a fascist system? Not the workers

[@liamscott1905]

@@Str3tchyL3gs The trade unions are the ones in control.

[@CaesarsLegion1]

@@Str3tchyL3gs It literally is the workers

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

@@CaesarsLegion1 It's not

[@armaghnewsandstories.nuach8423]

THAT SPIRIT OF UNITY IS NOT DEAD. IT JUST NEEDS A NEW PHOENIX

[@davidsullivan8236]

In the light of what’s going today this is worth reflecting on

[@thebureuoftruth1875]

My family were EastEnd Jewish back in the 1930s. Both my granddads and my great uncles fought Mosley and his blackshirted goons. Jews from all over the UK belted down to Cable Street. From Glasgow, Sunderland, Hull, Bradford, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield. Fook the Fascists!

[@BabylonianHebrew]

+TheTruthWillOut2012 Not all Jews are commies are cultural marxists. Remember, the white man fired the first shot, when Israel was colonized and Jews were dispersed into Europe.

[@hdgskevdb]

Mosleys Folly So your family is part of the reason Europe is falling apart and under invasion. I see

[@zestonl5007]

EggRollex :D Thank you. Hail Victory.

[@twitoftheyear5044]

The Jewish commitment to war caused the downfall of the British Empire.

[@Angus1966]

Fook the ant British Communist thugs wh have ruined England. The time will come. International bankers and industrialists will tremble in fear

[@A.Mardle]

The battle of Cable Street was a message from the British government that political extremism - fascist or communist - wouldn't be tolerated. Both ideologies were European phenomena and neither was wanted in Britain.

[@Fighterofthenightmanaaaah]

Not quite sure where you’ve got the bit about communism from there but it was certainly a rejection of fascism in Britain. Also worth adding that it was very much a bottom-up rather than a top-down movement.

[@A.Mardle]

@@Fighterofthenightmanaaaah The Public Order Act of 1936 broke the BUF. Left wing street fighters can romanticise their role as much as they like, but it was the government that put down fascism. It also, more subtly, confined communism to the political fringes.

[@iantownson366]

Magnificent! Well done!! Also everyone shoud ignore the psychotic rantings of pro-fascist trolls. Let them troll off somewhere else.

[@jamoross3034]

Different opinion= troll . Typical deflections from commies

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

By late October 1936 membership in the BUF had increased by 2,000, with many joining East End branches of the organisation. In March 1937 the BUF received 18% of the East End vote, and around 30% of the non-Jewish vote, in the three main areas of the Cable Street confrontation.

[@catrionaskivingtonskivingt4819]

In other words they lost by 82% & 70%.Most people didn’t believe in their rhetoric.

[@edelgyn2699]

My grandmother arrived in the East End from German after the Nazis had shown their hatred of various people and she was part of the Cable Street protests. She said in her opinion many British people adopted Fascism with more enthusiasm than most Germans and it shocked her. The difference in her opinion was that there were more people in Britain who were willing to stick two fingers up to the establishment who advised they just put up with shit. I get the impression that modern day people are more complacent about challenging Fascism.

[@CliveLucas-z6d]

The usul Bolshevik " tribe"

[@deanwakley8357]

Thank you yet another intriguing episode, so important to keep history alive and relevant, love your work ☺️

[@liam.4454]

This is actually not accurate. The 'fascist' side was mostly teenagers, indigenous English from the working class east end they numbered around 3,000 and around a quarter of them were teenage girls; The anti fascist side numbered around 200,000 and we're a mixture of communists, Jewish Zionists and academics, mostly middle class or wealthy people The two groups never met as the police couldn't control the violent communists and the march was called off The only incident was a small group of Blackshirts (who were going early to set up podium of sorts I believe) were attacked, famously Tommy Moran boxed about a dozen communists single handedly before being hit with a wooden bat wrapped with barbed wire

[@MrCOUNTYCORK]

No it was all English girls on the fascist side,😂😂😂 FFS read a book, not Tommy's handbook of being a member of the EDL

[@Fighterofthenightmanaaaah]

Absolute bollocks. Despite Britains tendency to the right, there always been an anti-fascist movement. Cope harder

[@liam.4454]

What are you crying about? ​@@MrCOUNTYCORK

[@liam.4454]

​@Fighterofthenightmanaaaah I didn't say there wasn't , you seem confused

[@Fighterofthenightmanaaaah]

@@liam.4454 Your implication is that Cable St was an instance of left-wing aggression and that there’s some sort of conspiracy to cover it up?

[@chriswatkin5476]

Strange that support for Mosley in the East End increased after 1936.

[@liamscott1905]

@chriswatkin5476 The left only attacked Mosley because they were butthurt that he left the Labour Party.

[@zakmarsden5997]

incredible, Who were these Fascists supporters?.. where they East end Jews? Nope, East end Communists?,, Nope, East end Irish Catholics,OF COURSE THEY WERE!

[@chriswatkin5476]

@@zakmarsden5997 just ordinary Britons, not everyone on the East End was a Jew or a communist, Irish Catholics tended to be very pro Mosley, he made his home there after the war

[@zakmarsden5997]

@@chriswatkin5476 of course Ireland was onceof the most anti Jewish countries in the thirties and before, Its a sad joke to say that the East end Irish Catholics "stood with the Jews",,,Just a few years later European Catholics were helping send Jews to the Gas chambers ,and even after the Holocaust, to their eternal shame Ireland, Irish Catholics and the Irish diaspora hated the Jews and Israel even more, Some of these fairy stories concerning Irish "solidarity" with the Jews would be hilarious in any other context,

[@lauramolony]

I've heard that afterwards, Mosley left the UK for Germany where he married his wife at Hermann Goering's house, with Adolf Hitler as a guest.

[@sputnikwar]

Amazing- thanks for this. Very I formative and insightful with the guy that was there as a boy. I always love seeing old Bangladeshi 🇧🇩 signs around Brick Lane area. Never knew about the different areas being largely of differing ethnic communities. Thanks 🙏

[@suefurn7674]

My Dad was 10 at the time. His Mum was in a shop & came out to see my Dad waving a flag given to him by Mosleys crew. His Mum wacked him round the ear & told the fascists to bugger off. Classic.

[@I_like_big_bombs]

@D J I don't think that is the spirit for dealing with people. What did calling someone like that accomplish? I have to say I am even a supporter of Mosley on some levels. But I find your response to be quite distasteful and the type of behavior which would get a child a spanking.

[@jourdaindoeff97]

@D J I am all for the preservation of European identities and cultures however, this aggressive attitude against opposing mentalities makes you no better than "antifa rats". Most of them are confused teenagers who feel like they're in Star Wars and they're the rebels fighting against the evil (and in this case fascist) empire. It is up to us to show them the right path through diplomacy and by calmly providing facts. The calmer we remain the more we expose the emerging extreme left as the thugs they really are

[@IndieGinge]

Your grandma is fantastic. All these pricks trying to drag your family can go fuck themselves. Solidarity in the face of their nihilistic war against everyone. Every civilization has a commonly agreed upon story that outlines how to be a decent person, these people just want to live in a shitty selfish world of fear so they can feel big. Fascistas no pasaran!

[@angelicupstart1977]

Probably a lie tho.

[@wobblyjack9481]

@@I_like_big_bombs Beating children? Yes, that has always worked.

[@aneesasyed3153]

This video shows something I’ve never really heard about so it was interesting to get to hear about it and know the history behind it.

[@timolol6268]

Fascinating history.

[@doddycaz]

I've seen the mural many many times over the years, but this video brings it alive. Well done, wish I'd seen this sooner.

[@suefurn7674]

The Men they Couldn't hang did a great song about this called Cable Street.

[@dannythomson5239]

thanks for that Sue ive just looked up the song and found it.

[@suefurn7674]

@@dannythomson5239 Very welcome Danny. A great band. The Album is called Majestic.

[@melthebell33]

The ghosts of cable Street (R.I.P Stefan Cush)

[@franl155]

Thanks for that heads-up! I've just found it and listened to it. Brilliant song.

[@occamsrayzor]

An interesting documentary. It's sad that we still see those who are hell-bent on sowing the seeds of bigotry, and that so many seem willing to blindly follow them. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

[@occamsrayzor]

***** You need to get an education.

[@occamsrayzor]

***** Fuck off, you cretin. If you can't even recognise that these asshats were no more than a pack of fascist Hitler lapdogs, then there's no hope for you.

[@jensjensen9035]

Esoteric not just British ones

[@seanscullion2178]

The Irish have always been the underdog so no surprise to see them stand beside the Jews.

[@ianwall3645]

🇮🇱, 🇮🇪... 🤜

[@wobblyjack9481]

@@ianwall3645 I don't understand your post. Regards

[@jamoross3034]

They actually supported Mosley lol

[@edelgyn2699]

@@jamoross3034 Nonsense!

[@ShotsMerkzAll]

@@edelgyn2699educate yourself

[@Sarahk150]

This is an excellent vid and most informative piece I have seen on the battle of Cable Street-it should have been on KZbin when made but may be that was a legnth issue when they had restrictions on KZbin. Very revealing point made about the police and whose side they were on.

[@JamesLee-rq4sy]

@Sarahk 150 It was an informative piece. I now understand why the English people put (No Irish) signs up all over England.

[@diongibbsbpwp160]

As a Political and Social Scientist, this guys interpretation of what Fascism is in Britain and Europe gives me a headache, the industrial revolution is correct, however, the view that Fascism is violent Feudalism is absolutely wrong.

[@GreenmanXIV]

My Dad was 21 in 1936, his step brother Robert, was 18 both of them were there at Cable street. They were both signed up Labour party/youth members. Neither were Irish, dockers or Jewish. I think Prof' Fishman, has acquired a touch of false memory syndrome. On my maternal side my uncle Bert, as a 9 year old was given 10/- by Mosley to push books, off of his book stall in the Mile End Road. So Mosley called say look at those Jewish brats. 10/- was a lot of money in the 1930s,

[@andrewmartin6445]

It is a huge leap from saying that there were 60,000 Jewish people in an area of London to describing all of Britain as a "mongrel nation". Why use such a dismissive and denigrating term anyway?

[@theblackshritbrit1693]

Mosley was a cabinet minister in the Labour government

[@wobblyjack9481]

@@theblackshritbrit1693 Says it all. Our glorious leaders are renowned for their flitting to and fro looking for nest eggs.

[@Janos23]

@@theblackshritbrit1693 Only for a time. He left over disagrements and became leader of the British Union of Fascists.

[@liamscott1905]

@Janos23 The disagreement was that labour wasn’t left wing enough.

[@radroatch]

More and more parallels between now and then. Scary!

[@sujoyroychoudhury7903]

Idk about this man's political inclination but his analysis, particularly that on fascism sounds pretty much authentic to me, similar to that of Trotsky.

[@BeeKisses]

Powerful.

[@Cromwelldunbar]

Interesting appraisal by Alan Hudson but I don‘t think he‘s entirely honest: for starters he confuses his premisses somewhat by talking of a fascist sympathiser facing some kind of home eviction which issue if at all really relevant is then quickly left entirely! Then he brings the abandoned tram by its communist party motorman and then the confusing matters of whether or not labour and/or communist party leaders wanted to take official action or not, and I understand probably not. He cites the communist party and of its home base of Russia as though it was a paragon of virtue - which many did think - but that was before George Orwell‘s observations were made known. Popular opinion did side with the Republican Government of Spain against Franco‘s military insurrection but little did it know of internal politics of that country eg the murder of a highly respectedright wing member of Spanish parliament Calvo Sotello answering the door at his home by government agents, an assassination taken as the last straw by Spanish army circles and an excuse to rise up against the ruling left wing government there. He talks disparagingly of fascist attitudes in Mosley‘s party where probably many thought other parties weren‘t doing enough for the country and who just loved their country…certainly many were unwittingly naive and wanted more done to bring an end to unemployment…and even the Independent Labour Party and eG Fenner Brockway had spoken well of Mosley and his recommendations dismissed by his ministerial superiors causing him to resign to form his New Party (which wasn‘t ever called the New Fascist Party of GB btw). Mosley certainly had his faults and was both ambitious and impatient and no doubt at all that he would be dictatorial! Hudson also talks of the Jewish population as though they were hard done by…and not unlike the Bangladeshis…Many Jewish people would be thankful for their asylum in Britain and if they were communistic in belief why were they in Britain? As for the Irish both speakers talk of the “sweated labour of the Irish” as though Britain was guilty of committing some injustice…The Irish Free State existed why should they be in England and not in their own country? They were active in their IRA activities - not the Irish government of course - but why criticise a country that gives work and exile? And in the coming war against fascism the Irish would remain neutral, and none of the bs about Irish volunteers in the British Army… And in Britain there was a market for Irish exports… Has Alan Hudson read Frederick Mulally’s little book on Fascism in Britain written in the 1930s? When a very young teenager I came across a copy which I bought at a second-hand bookshop in South London and it made a life-long impression upon me. Mosley was a strange figure, and lost his aim. I saw his Trafalgar Square rally of Europe a Nation, heard his speech, noted his personal pronunciation of the word “capitalistic” accentuating the second vowel rather than the fourth, and even felt a little sorry for him warding off the arms of many who followed him at very close quarters all the way to Charing Cross Station court precincts and especially noting his limp - the origins of which at the time I was ignorant - and thinking he had been aggressed. The original left-wing expression in Spanish ¡ No pasarán ! is better translated as “They shall not pass!” which to right-wing anti Republican Spaniards became a joke, they saying ‘but they did pass!’ Also strange the absence of any mention that of the Jewish exiles in the East End none came from fascist Spain, mostly from Eastern Europe. A little reading of the history of that country might find something in common of most countries including Britain’s. He could have mentioned the case of Austria that although Austro-fascist the mass exodus of Austrian Jews including that of Freud himself RIP came only after the Anschluss take-over by Austrian Nazis and that even a renowned Austrian Socialist Karl Renner voted in favour of Hitler’s take-over rather than assassinated Dollfuss’s successor Schussnig. Lastly two points on the Cable Street affair: ( i) the reported version I have read gave credit to the police chief I/c of the failure of its effort to ensure the safe passage of Mosley’s fascists and his reporting this to Mosley and recommending Mosley to give way and abandon his wish to pursue with his March…with the result that Mosley agreed and gave instruction to his people to march away elsewhere (ii) that a result of the Cable Street fiasco was the Home Office ruling against the public adornment of political uniforms ie black shirts etc - which I think was a stroke of enlightenment on the part of the government of the day and credit ought to be made of it! As for immigration just take a good look at the state of London today! Post scrtum addenda: In point of fact as regards Ireland and the Irish, Mosley got on very well them, lived there when out of favour in England, took the Irish side over the Black and Tans, might even have met Skorzeny on his farm or down at a local pub in Ireland…to talk of the IRA Sabotage in England in 1939 campaign in league with the Gestapo especially in Coventry on 25th August 1939….When did Neville declare war on the Nazis?

[@DSilsbury]

Wow!!! Not sure when this was made but at the end there he's saying you could never reinvigorate that mural. Well it's 2018 and I think it's happening!

[@MrsGypsumFantastic]

Bobby Dazzler and then came 2020. I can see so many parallels with what’s going on today!

[@MrsGypsumFantastic]

Monkee Media you muppet! I literally live in a foreign country and it’s the least stressed I’ve ever been in my life. Trump is a pathetic man-baby.

[@MrsGypsumFantastic]

Monkee Media highly unlikely, the Portuguese are a very welcoming people. I’m pretty sure it’s only xenophobes and racists who get stressed being around foreigners, the rest of us realise we’re all just people and we’re not that different and we just get on with living.

[@MrsGypsumFantastic]

Monkee Media I don’t know who the “we” you’re referring to is, but Mosley literally never articulated a single word that myself or indeed virtually everyone I know agrees with. He is saying how you feel, cos you’re obviously a nasty little fascist.

[@markcangila1613]

@Monkee Media Yikes

[@elonerrigby9389]

Hello. Please reply. Does anyone have more details on Mccarthy the boxer? Was he blonde and stocky. Called John but everyone called him 'Paddy' I have a photo.

[@MarsBorg]

Lots of info on Paddy McCarthy Irish Footballer and Boxer via Google search www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&hs=MV7&sxsrf=ACYBGNQVm2IDHf0IhIRP1Rp0XVZKRVYavw%3A1573537307788&ei=G0bKXeTiL6XMxgPF24mIAw&q=Paddy+Mccarthy+the+boxer+John&oq=Paddy+Mccarthy+the+boxer+John&gs_l=psy-ab.12...35393.41008..52408...0.0..0.91.241.3......0....1..gws-wiz.......35i302i39.4hPQk1xjGXE&ved=0ahUKEwik3JWi--PlAhUlpnEKHcVtAjEQ4dUDCAo

[@DuncanMcintyre-jk3qb]

Tbh am a Scot but from mining community originally and still hate nazis

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

I'm Australian but my grandmother is from Scone originally and same

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

Scotland openly supported Nazi Germany.

[@elainepomeransky6377]

fantastic x

[@edwardbit8225]

hail the BUF!

[@jon123xyz]

Great doc!

[@joeletaxi821]

Mosley and his black shirts were never involved in this and the 'Battle of Cable Street' never happened. You were shown images of barricades and film of Jews/Communists fighting with the police but where were the blackshirts in this footage? The reality is that Mosley agreed not to march through the East End that day and went to Parliament Square instead. Also, the conflicts were not in Cable Street but on Whitechapel High Street. The video shows organised blackshirt marches interweaved with communists fighting with the police. Our government were building an anti-fascist narrative at that time for obvious reasons and so created this myth. In the decades since, it is often used by left leaning groups as an example but it never happened. Stories evolve over the years and people idealise and elevate their part in past events. It is a historical fact that the blackshirts were not involved. It is worth noting that the people of the East End gave Mosley huge support. This film tries to suggest anti-fascism unified the people and that is a lie. The poor of East London were devastatingly effected by immigration because of the crime wave it brought and the rise in rental costs. This is a one-sided story and misleading to the extreme.

[@liam.4454]

That's a great point Joe, it's the only accurate comment I've read. The 'blackshirts' that day were around 3,000, mostly working class teenagers from the east end I believe, around 25% of them were women. The only fighting on cable street was Communists and Zionists attacking the police And also for the sake of accuracy a small group of Blackshirts (who were going early to set up podium of sorts I believe) were attacked, famously Tommy Moran, a working class Geordie from the north of England boxed about a dozen communists single handedly before being hit with a wooden bat wrapped with barbed wire, which you can clearly see in the footage, I believe that's the only fighting between the two groups all day

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

Not a myth mate it's history. Anti fascism did unite the British people cause they didn't want some pompuss ass to impose a foreign rule of law on them and change their way of life

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

​@@liam.4454 Oh cry me a fucking river

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

@@Str3tchyL3gs The vast majority of people fully supported Mosley.

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

​@@JamesRichards-mj9kwIs that why the Mosley supporters were greatly outnumbered by their opponents and needed the police to protect them?

[@KmT81]

14:56 Picasso's Cubism ! Blacks,Jews and Irish Caths

[@TheCruxy]

It’s actually much more like a more realistic, less abstract take on futurism melting into surrealism. Futurism happened to be at its height between the two world wars, most concentratedly in Italy. Cubism, including its many sub-styles, mostly aims at presenting the topics form, where Futurism aims at presenting the desired emotion, through the shapes of the form of the subject. Hope you find this interesting, not irritating

[@socialistish]

The one thing that strikes me about the comments from the fascists lovers on here, is if we looked inside their heads we would struggle to find enough brain cells to cover the surface area of a postage stamp

[@acohen1980]

nicely argued ...you must be a barrister

[@socialistish]

nope just an ordinary bloke that can think

[@dianadoors1]

Brain cells??I think you will find far more on the right than the left.The left is the 'hidden hand' but not hidden so much now,known for your subversion of all societies.

[@americanunionoffascist8315]

Ariel Cohen No, its the other way around, we are dedicated to protect our people. You want migrants in.

[@philipgage1072]

You said it :-)

[@sarasimm6668]

BBC is that you?

[@yehuditcollins6783]

I was a baby but my Dad was very proud of being in the battle of Cable St. He said it was the dockers who stood with us, the Jews, and defeated the Fascists.

[@crustysherrifsbadge]

​@@SUBWAYSWITCH They had the foresight and courage to say fascism is wrong. Do you support fascists?

[@crustysherrifsbadge]

@@SUBWAYSWITCH are you implying that British fascism was different to Italian, Russian and German fascism?

[@crustysherrifsbadge]

@@SUBWAYSWITCH So fascism is ok if it’s British ?

[@crustysherrifsbadge]

@@SUBWAYSWITCH for who?

[@greatdane1991]

@@crustysherrifsbadgeBritish fascism is clearly different form nazism. I clearly can spot the difference between hitlers writing and Mosley writing. Fascism is the battle aganist the decay of captialism and the nick of time of communism destroying culture. Third position.

[@crustysherrifsbadge]

People have short memories I'm afraid 😢

[@fernbracken]

i am 83 year old, i saw the battle first hand Oswald mosely saved us from the racist comies jews and rentamob, Mosely saved us many times, they stationed men outside shops that were being robbed by the rentamob

[@edelgyn2699]

If you were 83 years old last year then you weren't born in 1936 - you are lying!!!

[@Shagyamum]

Mosley was a legend

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

Sure mate 😂😂😂

[@next9676]

✋, bro

wow what a biast report aginst the greatest movement britain could have chosen. those jews that sided with the communists fled from Russia years before and were persecuted by communists, yet sided with them as lady Diana said the Jewish matter wasn't as big as the left communists made out he was against the minority that wanted a ww2 he didnt

[@cherelled6419]

What a fantastic history lesson!

[@JJ62]

Note that most of the fascists replying below here can't even spell Mosley's name right, showing their intelligence right from the start.

[@alittlebitofhistory]

From what I've heard from my grandfather my great uncle was close to being a communist around this time and was certainly no lover of Mosley and did live in the east end, I've often wondered if he was on Cable Street that day.

[@philipgage1072]

I'm gusessing a resounding yes.

[@alittlebitofhistory]

@Saxon Wyvern My Grandfather was 6 at the time.

[@alittlebitofhistory]

@Saxon Wyvern To be honest I have no idea I have never heard him voice any political opinions ever, he was just telling stories about when he was growing up.

[@wobblyjack9481]

@Saxon Wyvern Don't tell him your name, Pike!

[@alex-sv8ru]

Your great uncle was based.

[@davideddy2672]

The Men They Couldn’t Hang - The Ghosts of Cable Street! A classic …

[@BENJIMANBREEG33]

I think it means "Judaism must be destroyed". You should perhaps have asked him first, what he meant by it. It was a silly thing to say really, cause a lot of Jews are against Zionism.

[@dianadoors1]

Yes but communism was created by them.

[@Bartholomew_Musgrave]

I’m glad they found an old Jewish chap and a Marxist lecturer to give a completely balanced version of events.

[@egapnala65]

The real argument on immigration is one of allowing CEOs to exploit currency differentials to mass import and exploit (on minimum wage/zero hour contracts usually) foreign labourers and drive down wages and conditions for everybody (which was a complaint that Henry Mayhew often met with in Victorian times) not consigned to foodbanks and redundancy by it vs. local investment and higher pay acquired by limiting the pool of potential work units opened up to corporations by creating border controls. As long as you have a situation where people can be shipped in because a minimum wage/zero hour job can make them wealthy back home this condition is going to exist. It is not their fault for wanting to better themselves. It is people wanting to exploit that to make money off their backs. I think until we have a global minimum wage to iron out these currency differentials and make migration needless there is little hope of this situation improving. It should also be borne in mind that it isn't just foreign PEOPLE that "undermine" domestic pay and conditions, companies from countries with stronger economic power also do so by being able to mass produce and market more cheaply than our natives. Again this is something Mayhew noted, the abolition of tariffs on corn led to our domestic agricultural set up being reduced to bugger by the importing of cheap German corn and the removal of tariffs on cotton did the same for the weaving industry through cheap French silk being imported. Nowadays we can see German supermarkets like Aldi doing the same for our retail sector. Domestic firms are being put in the classic social darwinian position of either cutting back on things like worker's benefits, pay etc or going to the wall. It is this that I can see both left and right (in their different ways) seeking to oppose. Bannon and Sanders both agree that open borders is a right wing policy to guarentee cheap labour for multinationals at the expense of domestic workers. "Fascism vs Anti-fascism" is a side show to divert and divide the working classes against their common enemy.

[@wobblyjack9481]

I enjoyed that post. Well done. People should realise that decency has it's own rewards. I often give a thumbs up to a post with which I disagree but appreciate that some effort has been made. I hope everyone keeps well during this thingamebob.

[@dianampm99]

Alan Page Well said. Though the mainstream left now promote the EU and the mainstream right promote brexit for world trade and anti immigration. We need a socialist brexit. Local self sufficiency will eventually lead to a better economic model than market capitalism. The tech to produce and distribute in abundance is already here.

[@craigmullen9046]

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[@Prauwlet213]

silence nazi

[@themoonfleesthroughclouds]

No chance

[@craigmullen9046]

@@themoonfleesthroughclouds lol 😂😂

[@Str3tchyL3gs]

Nothing patriotic about fascism bro 💀

[@craigmullen9046]

​@@Str3tchyL3gs Nothing wrong with Fascism!!!!

[@angelsone-five7912]

And look at London now, hardly any English left.

[@Bartholomew_Musgrave]

But won’t someone think of the Bangladeshis and their housing!

[@BENJIMANBREEG33]

Is that all you can say?

[@AlexSimpson1967]

If we, the real people in both the UK and the US stood up - we would vastly outnumber the facists every single day! Not the far left against the far right. We, the majority - regular joes who have no time for both factions hate...

[@nicholasmwangangi6257]

You think the far left is a hate group? Horseshoe theory does not exist. The labour unions fighting the fascists were far left. You liberals are the fascist enablers

[@MichaelJ44]

You have no time yet want to outnumber fascists everyday? Make up your mind

[@peterpedant]

Well it was all worth it in the end because now the east end has been made safe for a flourishing Islamic emirate.

[@George_Kush]

i love muslims so much i let them fuck my girlfriend

[@weltgeist2604]

@@George_Kush Thank you George, your service to our country is unimaginable, I really do shed a tear thinking about the beautiful brown future of humanity.

[@jensjensen9035]

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[@AutumnOddity]

your icon is perfect for you.

[@SuperTastyone]

My Dad went down to Cable St with his mates just for a Good punch up. .He said he didn't care whether they were Fascists, communists or Jews. . or even Police He punched them all . . and a few of his mates too! There was some very Well to do people putting the Boot in too, he said. I went through the L.A riots so I know what happens in a riot. . once it kicks off nobody knows what's going on. . or what its about! Sorry Folks. . but we just aren't ready for Heaven just yet!

[@davidpollard1139]

The fascists weren't at Cable Street.

[@ashley-fk6dp]

Did he really. Punch his mate though?

[@dermot1961able]

wow. thanks for posting this. no pasaran! history for my children. it repeats itself of course with the EDL.

[@wobble3859]

I don't think you know what hypocrisy means. Also, nothing in my very short post points to ignorance, naivety or being brainwashed. So erm..... what? Did you hit the wrong reply button?

[@wobble3859]

I called him a Nazi, not for "simply posting facts and an opinion based on those facts", but for ending his comment with "Delenda Est Judaica". I have not been conditioned to hate Nazis. I hate anyone who thinks it is fine to exterminate a race, such as the author of the comment I replied to. Of course I only know selected parts of history, as does every other person in the world. I realise that. You have made a lot of incorrect assumptions about me based on an 8 word comment I made.

[@J-bidenJackson]

That story after 2 mins is beautiful and makes me proud to be left wing

[@J-bidenJackson]

@Saxon Wyvern thanks for your intelligent reply

[@J-bidenJackson]

@Saxon Wyvern now you've made your peodophile comment seem intelligent

[@AlwaysAC]

Saxon Wyvern the left is the establishment? Let’s review that claim shall we? You’re a clever fellow always up for examining his views in the light of factual evidence aren’t you? Economic leftism, as proscribed by Marx, advocated the collective ownership and distribution of means of production and wealth. Marx and others who followed his teachings wanted a classes moneyless society in which workers had complete control over their produce right? I wonder if you could be so kind as to tell me what percentage of British businesses are collectively owned and operated by workers collectives? Or who in parliament is advocating for the forceful seizure of the means of production and the violent removal of the capitalist class? No? Oh you didn’t mean economic leftism you mean social leftism don’t you? what you mean is that you can’t call gay people and black folks names anymore without losing your job? I wonder why? The fault of evil Marxist who control everything no doubt? Or perhaps . . . Companies don’t want to employ people who represent such repugnant views because if they do people will no longer use their services and buy their goods . . . Which would mean . . . The demands of capital are the reason you can’t say those things. Now what about those elites? Definitely all Marxist right? The same elites who funnel masses of their wealth through offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes and so they can horde resources? The same elites that sow division and discord between working class people in the media they own, so you think the benefit cheats and immigrants are your enemy? Ever looked in to the amount of tax revenue lost to benefit cheats versus the amount lost to corporate fraud? I wonder why those Marxist newspapers are always berating the working class and under classes and not going after tax dodging billionaires? Doesn’t sound like a great way to build class consciousness to me? The EU, surely a radical leftist organisation though right?! The EU that exist to facilitate the easier transfers of goods and wealth between the hands of a small group of super wealthy individuals? Hmmmm strange, doesn’t sound very Marxist to me? It’s almost like all those things you people claim to hate are . . . neoliberalism. . . But someone sold you a big old lie that it’s all the fault of the scary Marxist lurking in the universities and hiding in the bushes. And now you’ve swallowed that shit sandwich it seems to late to turn back and start thinking for yourself again. You’re a pawn. Nothing more.

[@J-bidenJackson]

@@AlwaysAC 🙏🙏

[@J-bidenJackson]

@@AlwaysAC that's basically what I couldn't be bothered to say, thanks

[@next9676]

Hail Oswald Mosley !

[@DuncanMcintyre-jk3qb]

Alerta alerta antifascita ✊no passaran

[@whateveryhhfskppl9365]

God bless sir Oswald Mosley he was not racist he was not anti Semitic he was a man who was slandered by the media time and time again he was great he was right he did not care about race or religion he cared about England and about Europe god bless Mosley The Union Movement and the BUF.

[@patriotalliance2198]

American nationalist Workers party ANWP hear-hear

[@parkerc9816]

Fascism is the revolution of the bourgeoisie. Nazi scum defending a monster makes you a monster.

[@allmightlionthunder5515]

Commie do same or even worst Jews and commies are and was the biggest criminals

[@markelsdon2453]

Still a wanker stila w*****

[@jamoross3034]

Hail Mosley

[@Michael.Eddington]

I held my tongue up until this man said “English or British-whatever *that* meant, in a mongrel nation”

[@BenWillock]

British & English history is a history of the melding of different cultures; Celts, Picts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Norse, Normans etc. The English language itself is a mongrel hybrid of germanic and romance verbiage & syntax.

[@pennoshea2204]

@@BenWillock this can be said of most nations. I defy you to find anyone today speaking of, let's say, an Asian or African country in this way, though. Trying to delegitimize people's identity by saying, "bro its not even real, you're just a mongrel in a mud puddle of a country." Is decidedly shitty and again, something you would not dare do to a demographically majority black or asian country.

[@NotAyFox]

@@pennoshea2204 Just because most people buy into the idea the there is us and them, doesn't make it any more real than claiming that the air molecules in the kitchen are Kitchen air and the ones in bedroom are Bedroom air. No nationality is based on any relevant property of a human being. Nationality is only a recent political invention that replaced identity based on feudal rulers.

[@pennoshea2204]

@@NotAyFox again, you can deconstruct anything in this way. And doing so is the bane of western civilization. Saying something is a "social construct" or "relatively new"(meaning upwards of a millenia+ in this case) doesn't make said thing invalid or bad. Language is a social construct. Its a relatively new idea to not beat my wife with a broom handle. Wearing clothes is a social construct. And again, I never hear anyone deconstructing an African American's racial identity or an Asian's racial identity with the zeal in which I hear people talk about how countries of traditionally european stock are invalid or not real, just an idea that can change or be molded to some new, better, mocha colored future.

[@NotAyFox]

@@pennoshea2204 - Language or clothes are not a "social construct". - Not beating a wife is not new. - When I said recent, I meant a century or two ago, because that's when feudalism started being phased away. - African Americans were all SLAVES for generations and to this day they're still oppressed. This is what they have in common. Not race, or religion and most certainly not nationality. BTW, race, religion and nationality are actual "social constructs". ("A social construct is something that exists not in objective reality, but as a result of human interaction. It exists because humans agree that it exists.")

[@lemsip207]

Be warned. Worldwrite is an offshoot of Spiked Online a right wing libertarian online political magazine run by Brendan O'Neill.

[@kevu4057]

thankyou

[@haroldsullivan2036]

Long live the people long live the communist movement

[@tyrssen1]

Death to the Reds.

hail sir oswald hail b u f hail our ENGLAND UNDER A FASCIST GOVERNMENT

[@tyrssen1]

@ And the same for America! (Those who agree are invited to check out "The New Fascism: An Idea Whose Time Has Come" on Lulu.com.)

@@tyrssen1 also check out new British union

[@tyrssen1]

@ I hear from Gary Raikes fairly regularly. A good man.

[@bmosley4444]

Hello

[@billionsubsbeforeBC]

Justin Time excuse me are you calling a far right Hitler supporter ‘great’

[@bmosley4444]

I am the great grandson of James Mosley, James went to the Canadas and fomented the War of 1812 and later his son went west and fomented the Nirthwest Rebellion then built the Royal Imperial Hotel in Calgary. Oswalds dad was Baron by extant.

[@bmosley4444]

Of note, Aldous Huxley plagerized Mosley and his gang to write his book.

[@bmosley4444]

I have a photo of me with Allan Sidle, a double phd from Stanford holding aan autographed copy of The Brave New World, I was in Stockton Ca investigating the murder of my brother on Labourday 2000 in Calgary Alberta.

[@bmosley4444]

Allen was roomates with Gordon Wasson in Stanford and knows all about the lsd program.

[@andyandson3700]

As usual, the Irish are the muscle of the working class :-)

[@ivanhart6675]

To me , Mosley as a middle aged man , in the 30s always reminded me of a Jewish band leader .towards the end of his life ,one person said that he looked like an old , old rabbi .

[@SniffMyDeadwax]

Ivan Hart who was it said he had a touch of the levant? He probably wasnt his father's son.

[@stephenroney3630]

@@SniffMyDeadwax it was Lord Curzon who said that.

[@Kuntyful]

Fascism never took off in Britain... and never will... thank god...

[@philipgage1072]

No Pasaran!

[@Prauwlet213]

Bash the fash!

[@canturgan]

Mosley didn't look like a party animal, ironically. He looked like his jaw was wired together or he was holding in a fart. He also had a very high waistband.

[@s31720]

Alan Hudson, who narrates this piece, obviously has spent too much time among the dreaming spires of Oxford and not enough time talking to the actual veterans of the battle. My great-uncle fought against the fascists in cable street and you should have heard his language when he came back to visit the neighbourhood and saw the street signs translated into Urdu and Bengali. Immigration then and immigration now simply aren't equivelant.

[@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts]

Then that just means your great-uncle is a racist prick.

[@JohnHamer-j4w]

clear the street of Bengalis that will the best thing be to do

[@TheDb2450]

Ave Victoria

[@fernbracken]

fishman is obviously very racist, some jews are like this and its a shame

[@davidpollard1139]

I don't think Mosley would have quarreled with the Jews if they hadn't sided with the Communists.

[@xxsuefair]

Many simply were communists. 'Being' not 'siding'.

[@chriswatkin6213]

The East End of London was a fascist stronghold and his support there went up after 1936 so the "battle" was a total failure,