The Sparking ZERO Before Sparking ZERO - A Retrospective

[@BoomerSage]

Thanks for all the great content

[@HiddenChannel]

Thank you so much! :D

[@ryugano5025]

Love how that tenkaichi 4 mod is so well made that is pretty much treated like an official game

[@pandovolt3227]

The BT4 mod is such an amazing labor of love. I'm pretty shocked Bandai let it stay up after Sparking Zero's release.

[@PhilipMarcYT]

It's not like they could take it down, it's all over the web.

[@pandovolt3227]

@@PhilipMarcYT True, there's always gonna be a way to get it. I'm mostly talking about the main site though since it's the origin

[@someone_67406]

They are not like activision, they dont take down what fans dedicated to make

[@Wol1427]

No need, Sparking Zero is selling great. Two legends can co-exist.

[@vvgr409]

There is no reason why they would take it down. Sparking Zero is selling great and it's not like people gonna stop buying it and play unofficial mod for the 17 years old game.

[@MHF013]

10:18 A few changes that I think are worth mentioning: 1) Transformations are done with Ki, rather than with your Blast 1 Stock. This means that you can basically transform at will, and as much as you want. 2) Conversely, if you are in a transformed state, and your stamina is broken, your character will automatically detransform to their base form, putting you at a disadvantage. 3) There are way more combo strings added to the game. This might be a bit subtler to notice, but even basic square mashing combos have new extensions and follow-ups. 4) If two fighters are in Max Power mode, and they do a rush clash, instead of the usual mashing minigame, you will instead trigger the teleportation rhythm minigame that in Tenkaichi 3 proper only happened in the story mode Oh, and Frieza's voice actor was changed for consistency with Super.

[@EternalStorm796]

4) Ngl, SZ should have brought this back into core gameplay like how BT4M did it. I never understood why in BT3 it was only in few specific battles of Dragon History.

[@alphahotel9156]

This gamecisclit inown both bt4 and sparking but find i keep playing bt4 for practice. Since I play classic buttons on sparking it actually helps when I jump in online battles. Bt4 is the goat

[@MHF013]

18:50 This is correct. Earlier Betas had even less non-Super slots, but they've since figured out how to go beyond the game's set limit. This also applies to the number of Character Slots. Earlier on, they couldn't go beyond the default game's 161 slots and had to remove a lot of characters to squeeze in Super characters.

[@ThatOneGuyNamedLemon]

Fun Fact: some of the changes listed in the old sagas of story mode where first implemented in a modded BT3 called "DBZ BT3: Version Latino", wich mainly redubbed the entire game to spanish (latin spanish) using clips from the original latin dubb of the anime, but the author also changed some things and added a few early mods in, like the future Gohan missing an arm and the Trunks vs Cell fight being in the fields instead of the city. The spanish speaking community kinda used that version as the groundworks for any modding movin forward

[@Hiro_Tex]

We greatly appreciate that you did this, thank you, your retrospective videos are all very well done and this is no exception! Besides the extended combo chains there are some other gameplay changes you might want to try later, like being able to do the Aerial Clash (the one you were only able to do in Story Mode originally) by clashing while both characters are on Max Power Mode, or by doing a series of consecutive Vanishing Counters. Speaking of vanishing counters, in BT4 the fighter with less Ki no longer gets the advantage, it now resets to neutral. You can also manually do taunts with L1 + O (circle) while idle, this has some effects both on you and on your opponent, but the effect diminishes the longer you use it. There are other several changes through out the game, but you did an amazing work with all the major ones! I'll take some notes about everything you've mentioned, we all want the best experience playing a classic Tenkaichi game after all!

[@wlb277]

Amazing work you & the team have done & able to accomplish with the mod so far, please keep it up! That said, now that SZ is out & runs on UE5, are you thinking about trying to make mods for it too at some point maybe in the near-ish future? If you & your team can mod a PS2 game without having good access to the files & inner workings of the engine to such a high level then I'd love to see what you can do with a game that has its files & all much easier accessible on PC.

[@MHF013]

You guys rock I can't wait to see what will be added in the next beta.

[@ConculusHydro]

@@MHF013Moveset and Skill customisation similar to RB2 is coming 🥳

[@CheosgamerX-ik1kq]

​@@ConculusHydrowait did they confirmed that?

[@ConculusHydro]

@@CheosgamerX-ik1kqYeah, Hiro made a video on his channel demonstrating the feature, its still a work in progress though. Massive news and very exciting, im literally shaking everyday with anticipation 😅

[@MetalFreezer3000]

Thanks for talking about the Mod once again, in regards to some of your questions, let me answer some of them > Special Saga has less Chapters because it's replacing the What If Saga and the DBSuper Saga is replacing the Special Saga in Vanilla, that's why it has less Chapters. > Yeah, the First Chapter in the DBSuper Saga is badly done with the 3 Beam Struggles in a Row, I keep insisting to PxGamer for a long time to redo it but basing it on the Movie instead of the Anime. > In regards to the Audio in Story Mode, All of it is Audio taken from the Anime (At least DBSuper the other Saga sometimes uses a mix of both games and from the Anime) , the English Dub Audio is in 5.1, which means it has the music track and the Voices/Sound Effects track separated, so what you're hearing isn't remains of a Background Music, it's just whatever background sound had that scene like wind, I don't mind it that much since at least there's no music on the Voiceline that's too intrusive > On the Topic of Music, I don't know if you've played throughout all the Story Mode with the Music off, but if you did, you're missing out a lot of the music choices, some are referencing past games > You're referencing TFS on the Section Titles, yet you didn't pointed out the references on Mission 100

[@Chunkymunky4ever]

Thank you for your hard work!

[@ConculusHydro]

I’d love for you to give Recoome his iconic and funny “You do well haha you do well” voiceline Thanks for all the work you put into the games audio, it goes under appreciated

[@MHF013]

9:10 You are correct. The timing for executing Z-Counters was made slightly easier in Tenkaichi 4. Not as easy as in Sparking Zero, but way better than the literal frame-perfect input that it was in Tenkaichi 3.

[@Windwalker88]

Im so glad it is easier in sparking. Maybe im getting old, but i found it so unfair the enemy could counter everything you threw at them while i could barely counter them back. I finally can defend myself in sparking zero

[@SleepyChloeFist]

I could immediately tell than SZ made it easier, but I play a lot of fighting games, and this is pretty common in sequels. (Sf4 to sf5 to sf6, or Tekken tag2 to T7, to T8, for example) I'm over it already. If it allows more people to enjoy the game at various levels, then I guess it was worth it in the end.

[@josephsekavec]

217 characters is NUTS. i dont even know what i would do with 218 characters.

[@HiddenChannel]

218 is just taking it too far.

[@modihasn7911]

Wait until the sparking dlcs come out lol, its gonna go past that

[@nexusgaminguniverse3722]

My mugen have 400 plus characters

[@ConculusHydro]

@@nexusgaminguniverse3722low quality tho lmao

[@supamalleo64]

High quality thoughbeit​@@ConculusHydro

[@benney9908]

"unfortunately there is no mustache gt vegeta" there actually is if you equip gt vegeta with the special cosmetic item. if i remember correctly you can preview all special cosmetics in the zuno mode by holding the rb button while selecting the character to look at

[@nukedukem614]

Fans are so dedicated

[@brucebarnes802]

Your videos are best

[@HiddenChannel]

Thank you so much :D

[@matiaschacoma8726]

great video! also 8:50 HIS WORLD!?!?!?! love it

[@Dogflamingo]

Thank you!! Literally learnt about the budokai tenkaichi 4 mod today but could barely find any comparisons. Most KZbin videos are (understandably) talking about sparking zero and the website doesn't seem to have any comparisons besides text on the changelogs, which isn't entirely useful since it doesn't compare visuals and I haven't even played budokai tenkaichi 3 anyways 😅. Honestly based only on what I've seen it looks immensely impressive, surprised they not only added new characters but also seemingly brand new moves for them as well?!! (not to mention the character art for them fits in great)

[@InvinciDon]

As strange as this is going to sound, but I would have liked to have gotten a BT3 Remaster with DLC than Sparking Zero, now that I’m aware of and will be playing BT4. I don’t hate Sparking Zero, but man, the content in this mod is wild.

[@brucebarnes802]

For some reason, your videos give me a nostalgic feeling that reminds me of a more simple youtube. Like back in 2018 to 2020 vibes when youtubers weren't so trendy and all about fake thumbnails. I really love it

[@Cautious_Gamer]

FUCK YEAH! Giving the best Tenkaichi 3 modders out there the spotlight! I wasn't expecting a TeamBT4's Tenkaichi 4 retrospective! Let's go! You're the best Hidden! Perfect girlfriend response, "I played Tenkaichi 3 for 100 days."

[@backloggedgamer9338]

4:50 Bully is one of my all time favorite games so this music was appreciated

[@taurusasaurusrex1183]

Than I'll be a Super Deduper Dedo Saiyan!

[@HiddenChannel]

Than I'll be a Super Deduper Dedo Dedo Saiyan!

[@clarknotkent__]

You adding the TFS bits was a nice touch

[@alphahotel9156]

Great video i got both bt4 and sparking zero last week. Really enjoying both. I get to play my friends on bt3/4 who do not own a new gen console. Both games are a joy. Bt4 brings back so much nostalgia and like the story mode interactions, better.

[@chrisfontaine3826]

You’re one of the most informed Dragonball game KZbinrs I’ve seen. You go into really good detail on this stuff more than a lot of other people. Thanks for the ambiance in my room.

[@phenom504]

I think a lot of people that like and are playing Sparking Zero now have definitely played Tenkaichi 4

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

I actually found out about Tenkaichi 4 after I played Sparking Zero. I lovee what they've done, but with as smooth and fluid as Sparking Zero is, it kinda hurts to play Tenkaichi 4.

[@supmichael]

I honestly love this mod and I've never even played it, but the ammount of love and effort put into it is amazing, and it has definitely helped keep BT3 alive. Without it we might not have gotten Sparking Zero tbh

[@dweenobloke489]

Really cool retrospective, along with the other videos you've uploaded very cool coverage of the games I've loved growing up. Always excited to see more. 👏🤗

[@MrGuidoxo]

21:23 idk when this was recorded but GT Vegeta's stache is in the game now, it's one of the Special Cosmetic items, like the halos in BT3, or another new cosmetic to BT4, Gohan's nerd glasses. You can see if the character has a Special Cosmetic in Character Reference by pressing L1 when selecting an outfit.

[@kazi1]

great video 👍

[@HiddenChannel]

Thanks, I'm so glad you are still enjoying my vids after so long lol

[@GlobalOutcast]

I still have this mod on my pc and despite having and greatly enjoing sparking zero, will still go back to play

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

It’s always cool to see modding projects like this. The amount of love put into this game is really incredible.

[@brmawe]

Great vid, I love the Sonic music in the background!

[@Calibcookx]

you are one of the best dbz game reviewers on this sitee

[@DanPantzig]

BT4 is so fucking good. I was so blown away playing through the story mode.

[@home9dog2blue199]

5:23 AHH yes. remember that time when Gohan was in SquidGame? Good times. Good times 😌

[@Boi-wot]

I guess memorizing the outfit as a poopy memey reference to squid game is easier to remember than the actual shoddy movie it came from

[@papahudz69]

Love your videos 😊

[@Salsa_Dip]

Did NOT expect this but it is very much welcome

[@xl4712]

This mod is better than Sparking Zero. I really enjoyed Sparking Zero Day 1 playing with my friend, but the moment I do anything else outside of splitscreen my interest drops... this on the other hand..... crazy good.

[@ssjalpha6593]

Sales say otherwise. More people playing SZ than this free game.

[@xl4712]

@@ssjalpha6593 well duh... of course people are gonna be playing a new Dragon Ball game that has been heavily advertised and is easily accessible on all modern platforms versus a mod of a 20 year old game that is mainly played through Emulation?

[@ssjalpha6593]

@@xl4712 A $0.00 game is infinitely more accessible than a $75 game.

[@milkymalik2628]

​@@ssjalpha6593sales do not prove anything. Long time Call of Duty fans know that Call of Duty has not been as good as it was since the mid 2010's and before that. Yet the series is more popular than it ever was back then and makes more sales too.

[@ConculusHydro]

@@ssjalpha6593goofball

[@ProdigalSui]

Deserve more subs!!! Good content right here

[@thevegetor5985]

As much as i love dragon ball and loved bt3, i never had an itch to try bt4. Perhaps it is because i am only recently getting into game mods, i am almost done playing through the legend of zelda ultimate trial (at least i think im almost done) for example. bt4 looks awesome. Wonderful video, keep up the good work.

[@HiddenChannel]

I need to play the Ultimate Trial, I've heard great things about it. Every time I go to play OoT I always end up playing a randomizer instead, I just get so addicted to randomizers lol

[@thevegetor5985]

@HiddenChannel same. But I do recommend that you try it when you can. Also there is something called archipelago, it is a system that allows a multi world between games. I'm sure you know but just in case someone reading this does not, a multiworld randomizer is when 2 or more people must complete a randomizer but items from one player may be in another player's world, and using this software you could do a darksouls 3/ OOT randomizer where dark souls items are in hyrule and zelda items are in dark souls. It is neat. There is a variety of supported games as well.

[@PlatypusKing10]

11:30 That Namek stage really reminds me of the frieza battle from budokai 1 for some reason!

[@ivandiaz5442]

There's a capsule that adds a special cosmetic to most characters vegeta gt mustache is back with that capsule

[@TheRealNightShot]

Tenkaichi 4 also has a TON of custom what if interaction dialogues. Sparking Zero lacks a LOT there. For example, if you put SSJ2 Goku against Perfect Cell, Cell will say “You’ve changed!” and Goku will be angry and go “You won’t get away!” Which is a throwback to a fanmade what if where Gohan died and Goku turned SSJ2 and fought Cell!

[@Needwagon4Speedwagon]

Since everyone else is pointing out their favorite music in the video, based use of No More Heroes soundtrack at 21:03

[@ChildlikeMan]

Was not expecting to hear the ACIII theme in background of a video about a Dragon Ball Mod game.

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

I love this Dragon Ball Z game!

[@SleepyChloeFist]

6:16 i know a Bully OST when i hear one! 🎉

[@arrombaacasa390]

Legend

[@biggysmals9715]

As someone who only care about single player, this mod is better than SZ

[@quentonlyles619]

The only thing that bugs me about this game is the outfut trunks is wearing in the Time Nest mode, ISNT ACTUALLY IN THE GAME. The most iconic time patroller outfit is unavailable lol.

[@ConculusHydro]

It’s coming along with TONS of other missing ones

[@MrGuidoxo]

@@ConculusHydro We're did they announce the future changes?

[@aisback1990]

Great video, Now I need TFS movies fights. That would be so much fun with the fan dub

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

"NOTHING" is different about budokai tenkaichi? REALLY? We went from 2D sidescrolling fighters to actual 3D arenas with free movement, and you're saying it's the same as all the other ones?

[@tman8876]

I can’t justify spending the money on sparking zero. Just too much for me. But bt4 is free and I’ve been loving it lol. It’s a really nice perk that it runs great on the steam deck too. I hear sparking zero is pretty borderline on performance

[@ssjalpha6593]

Just say you broke lil man

[@ultrascarlet5275]

​@@ssjalpha6593 That's just mean. I'm telling your mom you said that lil bro.

[@tman8876]

Guy who spends his money on video games to let others know he’s not poor, lmao

[@milkymalik2628]

​@@ssjalpha6593Sparking Zero meat rider spotted🎉🎉

[@LostSauce360]

@@ssjalpha6593 shit game ten 4 is betta

[@GustavoSuperSonic2001]

Sparking can have the best ADHD Graphics and colors and animations. But there is something about BT4 that makes it a better game in my eyes

[@nekonomicon2983]

I need to get a gaming pc to play this.

[@Prince_Of_Fish]

whats that music playing at around 13:37?

[@bananashoplifter3440]

Realizing they didn't include Tarble in Sparking Zero :(

[@ultranilo2642]

Bully and AC3 OST this is a W video

[@CaribbeanOlympian]

Team BT4 created mod content for KOF2002 Unlimited Match? What’s the mod’s name, I’m curious :0

[@om58499]

Yeah i want db heros characters and fusions in the game mods will fix that but i do want it to be a official release

[@aldico4067]

Super Saga is Special Saga and Special saga is What If saga. Each Saga is limited by how many fights it has cuz it needs to add up to 100% at the end. I still can't belive BT4 is a thing as I always wanted DBS game but in BT3 style story mode.

[@andresbernache8529]

Can you please please please please please answer this question is the Japanese version of the Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Series in English

[@SleepyChloeFist]

11:08 *laughs in Doppo Orochi*

[@jh46497]

Do you have any social medias ? Id love to follow you as a fellow kiwi and dbz fan 😊

[@HiddenChannel]

Not really, I've kind of gone off social media quite a bit since it felt like it wasn't adding anything good to my life. KZbin it pretty much the only social media I use.

[@babyjoker997]

Grape video

[@PulseDemon.]

OHHH SO THATS WHERE THE BARDOCK BRILLIANT SCIENTIST COMES FROM

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

It's from the old original Funimation dub with the Ocean dub voice actors. Back in the 90s we had a different set of voice actors voicing our favorite characters from the beginning of DBZ up to the episode where Goku actually emerges from his spaceship on Namek. We went probably a year or two without any new episodes at all, and when Goku landed on Namek, the next day we'd see the very first episode of DBZ again. Eventually they got around to dubbing more episodes, and it was really weird and jarring, because now everybody had a new voice actor. Later they went back and redubbed the Saiyan Saga and first half of the Frieza Saga, and then they redid everything for Kai.

[@SleepyChloeFist]

9:52 *laughs in Sparking Zero*

[@KalterPakster]

I really enjoy the mod but it super bothers me that ultra instinct is a completely different character so goku cant transform into all his forms

[@skylarbeaulieu6982]

didn't now there is such a thing as a super thanks until now. lol

[@ianrobinson2729]

Lore accurate uub if they loved him like himkuu 13:04

[@THJamie]

Jiren is so boring haha

[@chezumi7]

I believe there is a mustached Vegeta GT... you just need to equip the potara for it? or maybe I remember this wrong or was just dreaming of it @.@

[@81684hnxv]

Man... ive been playing Spakling Zero, but I still want to go check this out! I played BT3 on emulator for years, I didnt even know BT4 was a thing!!!

[@carterparson3401]

9:57 Well it’s not an online game so I like that stronger characters are stronger than weaker characters and it takes crazy amounts of skill to win with weak characters

[@psychopassisamasterpiece1997]

there is an online mode in the wii version

[@YellowPlagueProductions]

BT4 mod was much more fun for me than SZ. I'm so disappointed by SZ. The only thing better imo are the graphics, other than that, the BT4 mod is better.

[@dinosaurifyful]

Leagues better. In bt4 there’s a better story mode, go Pick a character and there’s already many costumes, there’s so many maps to choose, every Transform on top of almost all characters that have been wanted including the ssj3s. Not to mention the CPU in sparking zero is dogwater compared to bt4. Even tournament mode is better. I can barely play sparking anymore and it’s only been a month.

[@YellowPlagueProductions]

@@dinosaurifyful I stopped playing after 2 weeks. Words can't describe my disappointment with Sparking Zero. I almost even want to say that BT2 and BT3 are better than Sparking Zero.

[@dinosaurifyful]

@ I go back to bt4 regularly. It just has so many costumes, missions, maps, characters, and the AI can give me a run for my money on hard still, unlike sparking where the AI could almost never pose a real threat. It’s just perfect DBZ fan service in a great fighting too. Sparking probably couldn’t hope to match it in that way since it’s a AAA game that focuses graphics, flashy animations and fluid online play instead.

[@AarturoSc]

Your dumb Bardock joke got me.

[@onthedre]

I think the HUD and UI look amateurish but other than that it looks quite fun

[@onthedre]

The menus genuinely look awesome though

[@Tiger-makhulu]

Has anyone played this game/ mod on ps3?

[@ToLetTheWorldBe1]

12:22 wait! Bardock being a scientist came from this dub only??? I thought he just was a scientist!

[@kazi1]

hi

[@HiddenChannel]

Hi, Kazi :D

[@Tisson8891]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@aroccoification]

What’s embarrassing is that tenkaichi plays better than sparking and has dragon ball characters in it Sparking is just prettier

[@ArmoredSushi]

Glad I'm not alone to find Jiren extremely boring. One of the most forgettable characters indeed

[@om58499]

0:09 0:36

[@DoomyRei]

How do u get these mods

[@Xenix005]

Google team bt4 and you’ll find it. You can download the full game in their official website

[@Sleepylevi]

The mod is still better tbh ....

[@SakuraPhoenix153]

If only modders unleashed the potential of Battle of Z. It was super ahead of it's time and took Dragon Ball games in a direction that no other game have dared to go.

[@yubeluchiha]

All this mods make sparkling zero look bad at full price

[@wassupalg210]

Shout out New Zealand 🔥🔥🔥

[@DoomyRei]

Sup yo lol did u get sparking zero yet

[@whateverjustgetitoverwith4456]

Pov: your broke ass can't afford sparking zero

[@EWOODJ]

POV: Enjoying a mod more than an official release.

[@SnitchRat]

I dont even know what dragon ball is anymore.

[@undyingsoul3949]

I bet you'd love Jiren's mysterious nature and his no-nonsense attitude if he was really pleasing to your eyes. I've seen it over and over. Females are actually the most superficial gender. I myself found him admirable in most occasions before his lame backstory got revealed. It's impressive to me if a guy is a cold, never truly impressed quiet badass. Jiren's just not perfect in that regard. I don't like his arrogance. I'd still be humble if I could be like him.

[@FffDddd-lp1vc]

Calling a hack a sequel is kinda wrong

[@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970]

Calling a really good modded sequel a hack makes you a hack💀

[@FffDddd-lp1vc]

@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 aha, makes sense..

[@theantone7476]

Lol this isnt even an official game. Fan modded game. Invalid retro

[@bigtimerusher9719]

It does enough changes to the point it feels like a new game but I kinda see your point since it’s a mod

[@omegabossking]

It is an offcial game..an offical fan modded game :D

[@milkymalik2628]

That doesn't make it any less a video game lol.

[@KanackenKhan]

Thank you Baka Critics

[@Iamsuraimu]

Do you have an instagram? Because you been speakin my language & lingo since I found your page