Everything You Missed in LOONA "Why Not?" MV (ft. LOONAVERSE Theories)

[@Hidye1]

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[@JuanCarvajalC]

for me one importan part of the video ....is when they are playing with the color dust... for me that means that the colors are mixing and they dont have them anymore... that´s why the 12 moons are white at the end,,,,

[@kidrm19]

THANK YOU

[@byron4545]

Thanks!

[@jinsoulheadbang8584]

Why didn't you talk about the HeeJin individual shot in the beginning?

[@iamlollyrockz]

oh finally a good explanation... i think they are reversing events that they could not control the first time, so yeah basically saving the world, and that's why kim lips hair is back to her being chosen as a odd girl...so my theory is that odd eye is going to be back, and call the girls, then the eden sub is going to answer the call, and then the 1/3 (now with yeojin, cuz she's the missing piece), then 12 reunited knowing how to save the apocalypse this time, but in the end is not going to be as they expect... yeah in my head loona is basic sailor moon

[@someoneyoullmeeteventually6834]

yes. I think this mv symbolized by the reversing feather. Because of them, there's chaos because the moon imploded. Now they're trying to go back. I see the lyrics are the opposite too. "I'm so badd >:)" (so what, 2020), "I'm not bad, we're just the same" (why not, 2020) edit. I still can't get over abt the "unimportant" girls clip. I think they turning back time, so the girls represent butterfly cb(?) and the paint represents hi high cb(?) maybe idk. Please let me know for grmatical errors, thx.

[@yalldveyaint4647]

the rain in jinsoul's phone booth scenes also comes off the ground/falls in reverse which REALLY hammers in the whole "reversing timeline" thing

[@_XHii]

they're mirrors starting form the intro try to compare it with So What's intro it feels like they're the mirrored version of So What

[@Balls308]

Kim lip made the new moon

[@shana_denn]

@@someoneyoullmeeteventually6834 hey after PTT (paint the town) was announced i thought back on the scene in why not where they were throwing paint at each other it could be a reference oml👀👀

[@yerinbaekscandlelight]

I personally think Choerry being upside down on a mirror is significant. Her animal is a fruit bat, which hangs upside down, and in Love Cherry Motion, the main point was centred around mirrors and alternate universes.

[@mesCheerios]

yea it is significant - when she is upside down it like being on the other side of a plane and suggests she has just travelled from another place. She is also upside down in the purple tree in Love Cherry Motion. I think the most interesting part of that scene is that there is fire on the mirror and i wonder if it is meant to look like the fire is coming through from the other side & she has just escaped

[@yerinbaekscandlelight]

@@mesCheerios Wow you are so clever! You're way smarter than me. Well, I hope we figure out everything someday.

[@alberttarruella826]

what i also got is like kim lip is wearing a white dress and shes also on a field with purple grass just like in choerry's Love Cherrry Motion. In LCM mv there's a moment where choerry sees a blonde girl with a wite dress blinding her with a mirror and she follows her. Does that mean that why not kim lip is the story before she met choerry in LCM? idk my mind is blown rn XD

[@yerinbaekscandlelight]

@@alberttarruella826 The blonde in the field was actually proven to be JinSoul, but you're point is still relevant!

[@alberttarruella826]

@@yerinbaekscandlelight Oh sht XD. I've been thinking about it and i dont know what the 3 moons around kim lip mean like, they could be oec members but why is there 3 if kim lip's already there? Could the moons be their powers or something? or maybe they represent the 3 worlds (eden, earth and i think oec's one is paradise)? that last one could be interesting idk tbh XD

[@GardenWall31]

They said stream "let me in" that's why they cameod the plane

[@Hidye1]

I like where your head is at

[@mangocheese2837]

I thought of a theory; I wonder if they are gonna go full reserve, going back in time, but now with a "new Loona". Like how the Morbius Strip theory goes, YYXY is a darker/mirror version of 1/3, that was the first time loop. Now with So what, we end the music video with the feathers being reversed. Why Not itself sounds like a "poppier" version of So What, so i wonder if the girls are now going back in time, and the next comeback is gonna be a different variation of Butterfly, and the next one after that a darker version(?) of Hi High, that would be the morbius strip all over again but with the whole group. Edit: Thinking a bit more about this reversed loona and time loop theory, i remember that there was another time loop in odd eye circle's Sweet Crazy Love too! Girl Front was a poppy, bubbly song with alot of high energy, and the music video had alot of energetic moments with lots of deeper meaning. However, at the end of the music video of Girl Front, we see this tape recorder that was playing foward, then it stops, and starts playing backwards. What do we get after that? Sweet Crazy Love, a darker, more serious version of Odd Eye Circle. Then again, maybe i'm just overthinking :p pls don't hate on me this is just a theory. Also, thanks for the likes ^^.

[@dianavallecillos6758]

Yea something i was also thinking about lol maybe loona the ballad could be the lighter version of butterfly but that is if they actually release it this year.

[@someoneyoullmeeteventually6834]

I thought of the same thing omg

[@mangocheese2837]

omg y'all we ascending

[@GardenWall31]

Tho I think starting from hi high, to up to why not they keep resetting at the end of the vid tho or atleast implied, but pls correct me If I'm wrong

[@alpheusrose2997]

@@GardenWall31 actually, that’s not a bad theory, it would make sense to have every era be a different reset of the timeline, the hi high era could be the first time the loop resets, which brings us to the butterfly era, where the girls try to break the loop by calling all orbits to help break it, but fail, then resetting again bringing the so what era, where the girls burn the moon along with telling everyone to break the norms of society to break the loop as well, a note is like to make is that the loop doesn’t reset all the way back to the beginning, but only up until the girls unite right before the climax of hi high, why not could be telling us that a) the girls have a little bit of time before the loop resets, or b) the loop is in the process is resetting and the girls can’t do much about it, you look at it either way you want

[@midowo]

i think it was a reference to Cinderella, in the theory i have jinsoul tried to revert the events of so what, going all the way back to hi high (i do believe the moon scene references hi high, and that's why it's reverse, as well as Yeojin being left behind before being found by Haseul and the escene you believed to reference "the first step to the moon" actually references the leap scene in hi high) and this time i think Hyunjin was the one left behind, maybe they were doing some kinda of ritual to ascend to the moon and they had to do it before midnight (referencing the spell of the fairy godmother of cinderella) and somehow Hyunjin didn't manage to get together with them in time, her magic faded out after midnight and she was left behind, she is Cinderella, that's where the shoes come in.

[@marimemari]

i like this! also, we have a mere second of that hi high chuuwon yellow powder scene in why not!

[@iman3622]

Damn that's kinda sad lol.

[@kerrinf876]

@LEONG YONG-KANG - wait thats so smart

[@kerrinf876]

@LEONG YONG-KANG - hyunjin’s animal is a cat, and the animal that is the nemesis of cinderella’s animal pals is Lucifer... the cat..

[@kerrinf876]

@LEONG YONG-KANG - possibly alluding to an ongoing theory that Hyunjin is the antagonist of the Loonaverse?

[@violetbunches5438]

The cans around Yeojin are cherry cans, like Jinsoul’s rap in egoist

[@julietted1635]

i thought about it too but it looks like soup cans and we don't see the labels, i feel like if it was the cherry cans there would be an hint on the labels

[@chvrrvism3833]

i was thinking the three circles with kim lip represent odd eye circle since at the end they multiple to 12 circles. also if you look closely, one of them has a very slight yellowish color and it's just on one. that could refer to hyunjin being in oec instead of choerry

[@alpheusrose2997]

that hyunjin originally being in oec is actually backed by one of the teaser photos on loona’s instagram, where hyunjin is posing with kim lip and jinsoul and choerry is with 1/3

[@joshuaaaaa8377]

and about the scene where 1/3 danced (Hyunjin, Yeojin, Vivi and Gowon) i think instead of Hyunjin it’s actually Choerry. cos if u look at it Choerry was wearing YELLOW in her upside down clip. so it could be they switched

[@aperson5163]

No actually he explained that cherry and hyunjin combined

[@phel1467]

5:06 maybe the members are supposed to represent the other moons since 8 + 4 = 12??

[@Gowonmother]

I was thinking this too ! ALSO TELL ME IF IM WRONG BUT IS THAT AHIN ?

[@phel1467]

@@Gowonmother yup that is!

[@Gowonmother]

okay the queen herself I love her so much 🥺

[@TwilightsSecrets]

@@Gowonmother Ahin? Like from Momoland?

[@phel1467]

@@TwilightsSecrets they're talking about my pfp

[@digita1ange1on1ine]

a few other things i've caught was -choerry hanging upside down as she does often wearing yellow (hyunjin's color) -choerry appearing with yyxy in the grocery store, and gowon with 1/3 on the moon (unit members switch???) -people on twitter were saying at the beginning when jinsoul was in the telephone box it was raining so possible connection to singing in the rain? also i seen on twitter an interview with odd eye circle pre ot12 i believe with jinsoul saying something to the extent of "for example i can be in a unit with hyunjin" so i believe maybe gowon and choerry appearing with different subunits could possibly mean something also great video! i love these types of videos that talk about the lore so much i miss twinfish a lot her theories really got me into loona also edit* i think you're onto something about the 2jin shadow theory because they're wearing black and white and mirroring each other with the dance!

[@angiemojica5199]

I thought it was snow in the Jinsoul telephone booth scene. Also, notice how the phone booth light is red, but the light around it is blue. 👀

[@sam6719]

Olivia being circled by the car might be like how she was circled by OEC in hi high

[@princesspeachgaming4162]

I think the rain was there also to show when exactly time stopped because it is falling in the first phone booth scene but in the flashes towoards the end the rain droplets are frozen and suspended in the air like the apples around vivi. Also u may already know this cos u r also a twinfish stan 🌈💅🏼 but the purple and yellow mirroring eachother on the colour wheel could have something to do with choerry wearing yellow in the mirror realm and how the two girls are mirrors of one another. But does that mean that it was Hyunjin in the center of the fire rather than Choerry? Like how it was possibly Hyunjin flashing the light to Choerry in LCM and Girl Front? Also thinking of how 8 moons were counted and the four girls were dancing in the middle and so counting the moons and the girls would add up to 12? also right before the midnight dancing break Yves kicks the screen and the static is shown and everything goes into reverse, there is a moment similar on the So What MV where a member Kicks the screen and the static shows and the climax of the MV kicks in

[@princesspeachgaming4162]

But yea those r just questions that i dont have answers to lool im rly excited w all the new lore stuff tho

[@mixcool]

need to see the video thinking its the other side of moebius lorde, Heejing start like a black witch, the opposite of VIVID heejin version, and the rest its the same, first chorus yyxy without go won but with choerry (the opposite of love4eva), cars symbolism i dont get it too much, but hyunjin help OEC in girl front (the yellow truck), and haseul in let me in, thinking like cars personalitys, olivia hye have a sport car, vivi's car are more small, and chuu stay in a green car (haseul teories), chuu whatching the moon in the other side, that happens because 12:00 can be am/pm or like in the earths poles. The lyrics its important to understand the video, in the first chorous, choerry do a YOHOO!, like a insider vibes haha. 2jin secction its in black and withe, the only moment the world have not colors, and singing about to doing a ritual, like witchs, that can have some connection with ViViD song, and the boring world without colors (and remember the black girl in the begining of that video). This video is the other side of loona lorde, the second chorus its loona 1/3 but with gowon, the opposite again, and in that moment can saw videos of regular people dancing in the street (butterfly era). yep this have a lot of theories

[@omni-7029]

I can't believe jaden jeong create this mind blowing masterpiece, hate him or not he's a genius

[@Hidye1]

Honestly, yeah. A lot of Orbits hate the guy because he just straight up abandoned LOONA, but I do respect and thank the guy for coming up with the LOONA project.

[@nihal571]

@@Hidye1 no we hate him bc of how badly he treated loona, no only loona but also to lovelyz and ladies code

[@mearysarchive3327]

@@nihal571 He just made this loona project- But You can hate him. Cuz i honestly don’t care.

[@rickygallardo7829]

@@nihal571 What did he do to them?

[@nightcoreedits266]

talented people are often crazy

[@lollmao6621]

Is no one gonna talk about Jinsoul being a water bender and how since her animal is a Blue Betta Fish and how the moon controls the earth's tides and stuff, Jinsoul must be very very powerful not to mention the meanings behind the animals, her fish eats other fishes it's put with, IDK is she's a villain per se but she does seem to make situations or things that make her seem so, if there was a devil I'm this loonaverse story I'm for certain it's Jinsoul lol her name alone Jin (Djinn meaning demon) and Soul (as in a soul, so her name means Demon soul or maybe Soul Demon since her animal eats other fish it's around)

[@stray2202]

Yeah that's true. We can also assume that Jinsoul is slightly evil because her color 'Royal Blue' is a mix of black and blue. Maybe she got that from committing the sin of swallowing the afternoon sun but that could also be BBC's way of telling us that she has a bit of evil in her soul.

[@RiceSquad]

Amazing breakdown! Thanks for making this. One addition, not sure if this is intentional, but when the 12 moons start to spiral, it sort of looks like the analemma of the moon, which is the figure 8 path the moon makes over the course of a year. Which also strongly resembles the shape of a möbius strip.

[@m4rcuhs]

and people said the lore was dead lmao

[@shinmenzbot]

Just a few of my observations... 1) In the scene with Olivia Hye and the car - there is a wolf sticker/logo on the side of the car 2:26 2) In the scene where Kim Lip is ascending 6:20, there is a brief close-up of the feet. You can see clearly that one of her toenails is painted blue and I'm assuming the other one is painted purple to represent Odd Eye Circle Timeline wise, I think what is happening is that we know something went wrong at the end of Hi High. Yes, they were able to assemble but they were not able to move forward in their timeline. In one of the teasers for Butterfly (?), we see GoWon going back in time and making a change which caused a ripple/butterfly effect. The Butterfly era would have less to contribute lore-wise to the Loonaverse but should be viewed as the action of the ripple/butterfly effect. That's when we started seeing the motif of "For all the Loonas around the world" almost as a signal for help. The event of So What is what actually happened as a result of GoWon making a change in the timeline. Instead of making it better, she made it worse and in order to fix the timeline, the Loona girls have to destroy it which is why we see Olivia Hye destroying the moon. In Why Not, we see Olivia Hye acting kind of like a boss in a gang - could be the moon destroying gang she assembled. The events in Why Not are just the aftermath of So What. The theme of Why Not seems to resolve around circles which can hint at reversing a cassette tape/going back in time. We don't see any of the Odd Eye Circle girls together in any of the shots. In fact, we see them trying to use their powers (Choerry with her dimension mirror, JinSoul with her eye and Kim Lip with the orbs doing something) which similar to their mission in Girl Front, they are trying to re-unite the girls (likely so they can go back in time and not leave anyone behind). They were successful in assembling again and did the little dance around the fire to "cast a spell" to go back to a correction timeline as seen in the MV as the orbs circling in the Lover Cherry Motion dimension mirror. The ending of Why Not makes it seem like the girls were successful in leaving this timeline but... Hyunjin somehow got left behind hence the shoe and it looks like she's still on the moon. I'm anticipating if Haseul is back for the next comeback that the lore may focus on getting these 2 members back for OT12. I'm still a little confused on why Kim Lip has those orbs. The field she's in is similar to the Haseul field in Hi High. Maybe Kim Lip is trying to look for her hence the confusion on her face. This might be a stretch but maybe Odd Eye Circle is traversing the dimensions via Choerry's power to look for Haseul and the orbs around Kim Lip would represent her going back to Love Cherry Motion dimension pools. JinSoul in the telephone booth represents calling all the Loonas around the world. I'm very confused with YeoJin though. Why is she by herself in the shopping cart and why is she looking at the moon? She's clearly seen doing the cult dance. Maybe the other girls were able to find her and brought her there. I remember reading someone had mentioned a theory about how there are 2 sets of LOONA girls. The "normal" girls that are on the regular side of the moon and another LOONA on the "dark side of the moon" which I think is super interesting.

[@Hidye1]

I thought about doing a Hi High analysis a couple months before this comeback, but the thing with HaSeul in the Hi High mv, is that she initially appears next to YeoJin in the same looking field we see here in Why Not, but in the beginning and end of Hi High, ONLY YeoJin was shown ALONE staring upwards and RUNNING.

[@alberttarruella826]

i checked kim lip's scene and even though it shines a lot, i think you're right. Her nails are bljue and purple

[@Ash2theB]

You basically said what I was thinking but way better. I think OEC is trying to help them correct the timeline but also just like yeojin, hasuel, now Hyunjin she got left behind so they need to have all 12 in order to get them into a new timeline or correct the old one. ☯️ Yin and Yang...also 2jin looks like they in the black and white world b4 Vivid came out. There could multiple universes of the the gurls all 12 videos are versions of themselves. But then again we have a human Vivi and a Android Vivi.

[@rabbitjr]

It's so cool to see the lore being discussed again by people, they're clearly still thinking hard about their world they've created and I'm really excited to see what they're going to do next. I thought of a couple of other things to add: * The point dance in the choreo (seen at 5:01, there's a solo shot with Yeojin doing it but I can't find it) is from the Sonatine choreography and represented 1/3 casting a spell so it probably has the same context here. * The girls dancing in reverse around a fire circle is referencing a ritual dance which seems to be commonly associated with Walpurgisnacht, the Pagan festival welcoming Spring. This adds to the spell imagery and also suggests new life in the Loonaverse? * The car at the beginning is drifting in an anti-clockwise direction. * The heavy hints at the reversal of time through a spell make me wonder if we're going to see new subunits soon like a re-examining of the predebut era. Note that we do not see a full group dance once in this video, it is two groups of four; yyxy but with Choerry instead of Gowon and 1/3 with Gowon instead of Heejin.

[@alpheusrose2997]

i’d like to add a bit to the moon dancing scene, in an ancient korean culture, that dance was to bring bountiful harvests, and was named ganggangsullae, or round and round in english, it was a dance primarily preformed by women and was done by jumping around in circles while signing and dancing, which is what the whole video is, just a bit of culture

The Yeojin Solo Dancing Shot appears in "12:00" the first teaser, i thought it was going to appear in the MV too but it didn't, bc i love that part

[@snflwrs_n_daisies]

wow I've never think of it this way... Your brain is just so🤯

[@pantalassian6416]

This is incredible! You've done a great analysis. Oh, I've also noticed somethings in the Chuu/Haseul part! Chuu's wearing a floral dress and there's flower petals flying all around her; exactly like Haseul's shots in Hi High! Also, they're counterparts. It makes my mind blow even more. Again, amazing points & great video ♥ Congrats ^^

[@bohosoul851]

Also the car is painted green, haseul's color

[@miguelgonzales5686]

chuu is supposed to be haseul, i think? just like hyunjin and choerry

[@reddreobri1621]

Thanks for noticing. This makes sense and I agree!

[@dotori8992]

If they're going reverse does that mean that we are having solos and sub units videos again? Jsjsjjs i wish

[@food_goddess_queen7299]

YYXY repackage is all that we want but never got

[@dotori8992]

@@food_goddess_queen7299 i want a vivi solo and loona 1/3 album so bad

[@food_goddess_queen7299]

@@dotori8992 Yesss! I need more Haseul high notes and ad-libs

[@idalsosmuscularscalp7624]

@@food_goddess_queen7299 hear me out... haseul opera solo!!!!!

[@spatchcockedturkey4597]

imo vivi would fit oec and yeojin would fit in 1/3,but that’s gonna ruin the whole loonaverse plot

[@lilywab]

Also, Chuu is wearing Choerry's diamond earrings (which I'm pretty sure are what Haseul used to shoot her other self in Let Me In). The only difference is she has an earring with three diamonds on the right and only two on the left, while Choerry's had four on each ear. So maybe the diamonds represent the shots they have at fixing things/changing the past/saving the world/idk?

[@sashianahye9827]

i feel like gowon can manifest a hurricane. we all know that rain is mostly associated to haseul and jinsoul who are represented by green and blue colors. gowon's color, eden green, is a mix of blue and green, which are jinsoul and haseul's colors.

[@sonikdas5821]

There's also the "hurricane" lyric in butterfly. "It starts with a small flap Now, inside my heart, a hurricane Been been there" She probably caused this small "flap" and created a ripple which went on to be a hurricane [butterfly effect] This probably won't make sense but then again it's the loonaverse.

[@zhonglimybeloved-]

also, gowon’s animal is a butterfly, and i think it has something to do with the butterfly effect

[@sonikdas5821]

@@zhonglimybeloved- Gowon' animal is a butterfly, and the butterfly era was to reflect a butterfly effect. My theory is that Gowon was the one who caused the effect.

[@princesspeachgaming4162]

Did not pick up on the aeroplane omg!!!! I assumed it was just a meteor as the moon was imploding that's so awesome!!! The Haseul references are still here i'm so happy

[@Farre56]

do the colored smoke not mean anything? it appeared initially in sweet crazy love and we had not seen it since. gowon is seen playing with the blue smoke, like jinsoul was in the oec era, and then we see a quick flash of yellow or orange smoke, most likely referring to hyunjin oof referring to anything at all. Also I thought the last black converse reversed shot was a reference to Hi High since every girl there was wearing white converse, but it might just be an ad. And idk why they added that clip of hyunjin missing a shoe but it’s too random not to be part of the lore

[@BlueStylus]

agree with mostly everything you say, just want to add that there was a scene in hi high where chuu and gowon are dancing in yellow colored smoke. it must be a reference to that time period at hi high, or at least before the events of butterfly

[@Vivi-sz8pe]

I saw a comment that hyunjin was missing a shoe in reference to cinderella,,,,,12:00 thingy,,,,

[@Heibin33]

Yeah I thought the same thing about the colors exploding + when i first saw the black and white part with 2jin the first thing i thought of was sweet crazy love being in black and white And i don't know why that ending with hyunjin keeps reminding me of her running around oec in circles in what i think was girl front

[@violetbunches5438]

The main colored powders we see are red blue & yellow, the new oec colors

[@Farre56]

@@violetbunches5438 new oec colors?? did members switch spots in the subunits?

[@guigozito13]

1:00 One of the moons is yellow, and I think it's in the place of the choerry moon 5:10 I think the 8 moons represent the 8 members who are not dancing

[@NoOne-nu5df]

The car circling Olivia hye also parallels Chuu circling yves in heart attack like a clock, as well in the loonatic mv where the OEC girls where being circled by someone

[@bagasd.r.2689]

the one circling oec i think was heejin, i forgot where i read it but they say it was heejin trying to reach out to oec

[@arthurrodrigues1465]

so, for the butterfly at the end: • Haseul kills haseul boy (let me in) • Go Won from the past gets the feather of haseulboy/white bird and transforms it in butterflies and they fly up (XIIX) • of course in butterfly, the butterfly flies, butterfly doesnt have much lore • Go won from the present/future see the butterflids flying even more up (So What) • The butterflies appear when olivia burned the moon (so what, when she is rounded by fire, if u look close u can see them flapping the wings) • the butterflys burning (because the fire of the moon) returns to be a feather like in iceland, and then starts unburning So in why not, that butterfly at the end, would be one of the butterflies that were on so what mv flying to the moon. That because Hyunjin is on the Earth, not on the moon

[@ЮлияЕрмакова-э2ж]

But why Hyunjin?

[@owllip773]

The girls wear dress and white converse when they are circling around the fire. But hyunjin wears regular clothes and black converse at the end of the video.

[@halfterlife]

if you believe the theory about heejin being the creator of the loonaverse who cast out olivia i think it really has alot more to it now. the scenes with oliva in so what make it seem like she is fighting back and destroying the loonaverse as revenge. now in why not, the girls are reversing time and fixing it but the scenes with olivia make it seem like she is trying to create her own universe the same way heejin did (the glowing eyes girls)

[@marcrimonmanguilimotan6419]

Chuu's scene has a car filled with floral decals and you can see the words "POWER" and "LOVE" which pretty much means the Flower Power era in the 1960's. In 1966, Leonid meteor shower, the greatest Meteor Storm ever recorded with 40 meteors per second lasting for 15 minutes happened. In So What, Heejin was looking up at the meteor shower in the sky. In Why Not, there were meteors crashing in her scene and also streaks of lightning which could mean a Storm. Another event that happened in the 60's decade is the Apollo 11 mission: the first moon landing in 1969 which is pretty much obvious since the teaser with 12:00 audio came out.

[@IASSAASSAI]

I saw someone mention in the dance of voice they create a tree when yves dances on the floor as it looks like she is a falling apple

[@skyvenger7724]

To me I thought she looked more like a snake that will tempt the other members to bite into their fruits

[@s_archive1]

at 5:30 we see Gowon with blue smoke similar to Hi High and the color of the smoke match with her new hair, then Yves scene showing the same blue smoke edit: if u see carefully her hair was blonde when she was exposed to blue smoke then suddenly her hair change color

[@Hidye1]

I think you mean favOriTe. I don't remember seeing blue smoke in Hi High. The smoke in Yves' scene, after GoWon, is just regular smoke, its just that the lighting makes it looks like it's colored. Also, I don't think GoWon's hair was blonde at any point during the video. Her hair, when she was in the blue smoke, definitely looked like the blue hair she has throughout the mv to me.

[@ecemgurbuz]

@@Hidye1 there was smoke (not one but some) in hi high but i only remember the yellow one.

[@TwilightsSecrets]

@@ecemgurbuz GoWon isn't in the shot at 2:24. Maybe you're getting her confused with Chuu?

[@renaol]

@@TwilightsSecrets I think its 2:24 in the actual MV, but its 5:30 in this video. I am also pretty sure GoWon is not blonde, it just looks blond because of the lighting. Her hair is being lit up by light, while her entire face is shadowed, you can tell by the small spot on her forehead that has a bit of light shining on it.

[@ecemgurbuz]

@@renaol i was confused and looked it up again and now i think it's blue lmao will delete the comments

[@bluhbluhbluh3542]

I’ve seen a lot of theories on them going back in time and resetting the timeline. Gowon caused a ripple effect or a ‘Butterfly Effect’ in butterfly in the teasers which lead on to So What having a bad ending and Why Not shows the chaos but now we’re moving in to a good ending and there’s possibly unit changes in the future with them resetting the timeline. Choerry and Gowon have been seen dancing with a different unit. In the description of Why Not, there’s something on them finding themself and their true role so it’s possible Choerry might not actually be in OEC (cherry on the cake in LCM might’ve been for Hyunjin), Gowon might belong in 1/3 and Hyunjin in OEC since OEC would be the primary colors. There’s so many connections and theories I’d like to share but my brain just crashed into a wall. Thank you for reading lol

[@mahomeoww]

i haven't seen anyone mention this but when the 12 moons start turning around, they're forming a mobius

[@nashiettoNe]

Hyunjin wear black converse! So shes the one that were on the 'moon' 1st then...... everybody else got white converse..... wtf this is even more confusing cause shes the only one left at earth..... also ,can hyunjin shapeshift or something cause the part yeojin look at the moon is suspiciously similar to ending hyunjin

[@tea_owl0758]

my take on the mv - i think that jinsoul being in the telephone box with the red light, and her being able to stop time (manipulation of time being a power that is normally associated with kimlip) probably means something. - maybe Hyunjin’s line “take it to the left, take it to the right” is a reference to the light on the moon flashing earlier on in the mv (right after olivia’s car scene). since hyunjin and heejin are wearing black and white suits maybe they could be imitating the moon? - maybe the 8 moons surrounding hyunjin, yeojin, vivi, and gowon might be a reference to the other 8 girls? And note that the choreography that they do for that part is actually for the final chorus rather then that specific part in the song. - in chuu’s 2nd scene with the car, white petals are blowing past her, maybe they are similar petals to haseul and yeojin’s scene in hi high? note that haseul was the 3rd member to be introduced and chuu was the 3rd-to-last member to be introduced.

[@NikiLove01_02]

Gowon doesn't have lines or screetime, but her part in the Loonaverse is so freaking important And I also love how they include Haseul in every theory, even if she is in Hiatus, her part in the story is also really important

[@noeochoa3448]

Me: I just want to watch a LOONA music video and not think about the lore. Also me: proceeds to scour the internet and watch multiple theory videos about the deep deep lore of the LOONAverse

[@Gowonmother]

You’re analysis was amazing thank you so much ! Also thank you for showing unreleased clips I think they’re really amazing and it’s really sad that bbc didn’t released officially :( like vivi’s letter to Hong Kong video is so good especially the end

[@saturn4rchive]

I'm surprised there was no mention of Choerry being upside down just like in Love Cherry Motion (we know it's because of her animal) added to the fact that she's standing in a mirror which we can also see in LCM which aside from eating the cherry to travel to other worlds is also her way of using her power as we see she realizes she can see her ''other'' self moving unlike a reflection followed by dropping a cherry and her catching it

[@maggie7429]

i feel like this has more to do with the mobius strip than we realize...in order to get back to the starting point on a mobius strip, you have to go around the loop twice, and the second loop ends up being on the opposite (or mirrored) plane of the strip... what if the so what video was them reaching the end of the first loop and this video is supposed to represent them entering into the mirrored plane and making their way back to the beginning? that could explain why hyunjin and yeojin were both on the moon but also on earth looking up at the moon, we were seeing two versions of them?? it would also explain why so many of the shots in this video are alternate versions of what already happened in previous videos, the events are happening at the same point on the loop but on the opposite plane

[@wompwompana]

your vids on the loonaverse are probably the best ones i've seen since twinfish's. thank you for creating such fun content thats fun and easy to digest :D

[@GardenWall31]

You just revived all my brain cells like how loona keeps trying to fix the looping timeline

[@SAdams1996]

Thank you for this! It's really helpful and also gives me hope as a Haseul bias that she'll come back.

[@somisgf9135]

This was amazing thank u sm

[@jonaseoche1584]

Just my take on Jinsoul and Kim Lip's scene. I feel like Jinsoul is reaching out to Kim Lip. While we see Jinsoul in a telephone booth, there's a scene where Kim Lip looks like she's hearing voices. Then after the scene where Jinsoul shows her odd eye, Kim Lip seems to ascend as if she knows something now.

[@Toypianist95]

Something that I noticed is all of them playing with colors at 6:32 how they throw it at each other like mixing everything. It is supposed their representative colors were only for them but now it is a colorful mess. What does that could possibly mean?

[@tammybeboso4968]

The theory- converse sponsor let's go

[@sansaparaganum]

in Chuu's scence. A moon has synchronous rotation... that's why a lot of people thought that's a sun and the hurricane scene reference to butterfly effect.

[@amysisk5832]

If you look at yves’ music video for new about three minutes in you can see apples floating around her I think that might have something to do with Vivi’s scene

[@watanabesuke]

I was thinking about jinsoul's tattoos from mmt behind because there are cherry and some represent 3 moons (maybe oec?). I guess jinsoul was on a telephone box to call vivi because you can see from eily there was one missed call on vivi's phone. By using cherry, jinsoul teleported to the place vivi made her video message. they finally met in einy. But i'm still confused what will jinsoul do after that. The way you also bring haseul met chuu reminds me of the carol 2.0 because vivi can't meet yves in why not and with choerry's help, they finally gather. Btw I like your explanation. Thank you for making this video 😃

[@germanperrito7027]

did anyone notes that the chuu earrings are same of choerry in love cherry motion mv ?

[@vinly4458]

I thought the field where she was in might be the same one Choerry had in her MV but it could also be the one with Haseul in Hi High

[@peppylemmy8456]

I feel like the part where heejin and hyunjin are dancing together in suits, may be a reference to when the world was without any color, also I feel like at 12:00 am may be a time where the end of the world starts and than time reverses???? Idk I just feel like that 12:00 am may be a bit important 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@CUCHO14able]

I might be wrong but im pretty sure that the shoe color the girls are wearing represent the timeline/universe they are currently in. Black is the old time line and white is the new one. We can see that in the scene when yeojin is looking at the unburned moon and chuu is looking at the now burned moon, they are wearing black shoes, which means in those scenes the rewind has not happend yet, we can also see them when yyy is dancing alongside choerry. Now yeojin is also in this same place that yyy and choerry, but she is not with them, that's because the market place shes in is now in the new universe. Theres a big focus in here on her shoes, which are white. Also stuff is just floating around. Which makes me believe that either: 1) The universe got altered because of the changes. 2) Time is currently stopped because of the rewind. Maybe, somehow kimlip time travel powers are being used, since the scene reminds me a lot of eclipse lighting. The same happens in the scene with yves and vivi. They are both wearing white shoes here (which means they are in the new timeline) and theres red lighting inside the cars. Maybe the cars can be used to travel in time? Perhaps Vivi is using them for that? We can see that Gowon smokes is first blue, but in the final scenes it changes to yellow, maybe she took hyunjin place now in this new timeline? It is also possible that the girls combined atributtes in some form, as we can see in the scene where they are color splashing (making it possible for them to use kimlip powers). Kimlip is barefoot in her scene, meaning she's in the LCM universe. She has the power of time travel, but at the end, after looking confused, she dissapears and we see the 12 moons orbiting around, the 12 girls are affected by her power. In the 2jin scene (which has black frames, meaning its more like an overview of everything i think?) We can see hyunjin wearing the new timeline color, while heejin wears black. Hyunjin went to the new timeline, but somehow Heejin helped her have connections to the old one too? At the end we can see hyunjin wearing a fully blue outfit and gowon's butterfly. Maybe resembling the butterfly effect that happend and the fact she took Gowons place. All of this ends on her having acces to the old and new timeline (b&w converse shoe) and the LCM universe (bareefoot). Idk, maybe the shoewear have nothing to do so, but I feel that theres really something on to them considering all the focus that have been given to them.

[@Ash2theB]

Yeojin - cans refers to Jinsoul in Olivia’s egotist video 2jin - Yin and Yang Moons 8 + Member’s 4=12 Kim lip - the high grass is more like in hi high where yeojin was. Also her climbing upward is like Heejin in hi high

[@coelhoxcx]

im obsessed with loona omg

[@maluf1]

i also think that hyunjin was trying to save the girls from the olivia catastrophe, where she burns the moon. that's why her step on the moon was reversed, she's trying to go back in time to stop olivia. i also think that she's choerry's "mirror", and maybe she belongs to the odd eye circle unit.

[@mrmjeber]

The skidmarks from the car also resemble orbiting trajectories/magnetic fields around plants/moons. The car is also driven by a crew called Peaches, and they have a Peaches label on the back (and wolf on the side ofc). It ends up mirroring "Yves" circling OEC and Chuu (peach) circling Yves. It's probably circumstantial but a cool thing I noticed.

[@tylawrence1316]

The LOONAVERSE blows my mind

[@teodoravuckovic7823]

also in the beginning choerry is sitting on a mirror just like in love cherry motion as a connection of the worlds

[@plantitasp]

MEanwhile me: So they had their moon midnight festival.. Olivya was in charged of making the fire pit, at the end they forgot to turn it off so it started a fire on the moon and that caused a disaster on earth because the moon started to fall into pieces. I am joking by the way

[@Hidye1]

No you see, GoWon tried to cook spaghetti...

[@28rizzons]

@@Hidye1 DELETE THOS 💀💀💀💀💀

[@Shamila.a.r]

@@28rizzons no don't

[@bratzboyernesto]

WHAT I THOUGHT THIS WHOLE TIME IT WAS YVES WAKING UP CHUU AT THE END OF HEART ATTACK WE-

[@eliane2463]

WHAT??? LMAO NO

[@KT-lt4fy]

Y'all noticed how the burning moon in Chuu's scene got smaller? Was that some kind of mistake or a reference that the events of So What are reversing? Also, I wonder if the members are spread out between realms in this video or if they keep missing each other due to bad timing. Cause Yeojin was at the same place as Yves, Chuu, Choerry, Olivia Hye, but the stores lighting was very different so is she in a different dimension then? Her world also has a moon in it while the 'So What' world's moon is on fire. She's still lost right? Same deal with Vivi. Maybe she was at the same place and time as where Yves was but not in the same dimension so she couldn't find her. Then where does Gowon, and Hyunjin fit in all of this? Hyunjin at the end looks like she's in the same place as Yeojin cause she has the same moon in the background. I wonder if Yeojin, Hyunjin, Vivi and Gowon are all in the same place, and Olivia Hye, Yves, Chuu, Heejin are still in So What's world. Are Choerry, Kim Lip and Jinsoul bringing everyone from across realms together again so that's why their activating their powers?

[@shelby2710]

i'm so glad they continued to have haseul in the lore even though she was taking a break ..

[@pinksus5528]

This is kind of hard to watch. The music comes up and is too loud then you speak and I have to turn my speakers up 😭

[@Hidye1]

Yeah, I noticed that too. A couple hours after I uploaded the video, I remembered that forgot to balance the audio. I just added subtitles to try to help.

[@someoneyoullmeeteventually6834]

@@Hidye1 It's so much help. Thx! Your vid is very useful

[@winstonadriansering9774]

Thank you for this! It’s been a while since I’ve watched a loona vid with theories 😬

[@artlessandro]

THOUGHTS on HYUNJIN's MISSING SHOE : - There is butterfly which implies the butterfly effect - Hyunjin's shoe is not theoretically missing, but there are 2 Hyunjins that collide together. How come? - These 2 Hyunjins come from 2 different dimensions/timelines, my guess would be Hyunjin before apocalypse and Hyunjin after apocalypse OR Hyunjin from apocalyptic world and Hyunjin from the unapocalyptic world - These 2 Hyunjins collide because of PARADOX EFFECT (Watch Cloverfield Paradox to see more insights!) - Basically it is like 2 dimensions overlapping one another and a being can be transferred to the other dimension or a being can subconsciously unite with its 'doppleganger'. So... - Hyunjin with shoe on is from the after apocalypse timeline - Hyunjin without shoe on is from the before apocalypse timeline >> kinda symbolizes her being a cat as the pureness and innocence of her being shown in "Around You" MV Which can mean.... - All girls successfully go back to the past to save the world, meanwhile Hyunjin is stuck in between 2 timelines/dimensions

[@sphixion]

HyunJin lost her shoe while doing military drills. Or while looking for bread. Or while barking and making aeong sounds. Yeah,.............. Stan Talent Stan Loona

[@enchancozreamy]

i got goosebump at the airplane thingy !!!

[@gaemgalf]

I think when they dancing reverse in the moon, their clothes look like those of Hi High eras

[@thieenj46]

OMG so many fascinating lores and theories here and in the comments, it all makes some sense!!! Loona is such an interesting group ahhhhh :)

[@Pranckall]

Adding on my own theories 5:09 there r 8 moons cos 4 of the loona girls are dancing on-screen = combined 12 6:32 throwing of the colour powder is in reference of heejin's vivid. loonaverse was first created in black and white but god heejin was like "let there be light." throwing colour powder here references the creation of a new world/reality and that their reverse time spell thingy worked. 6:16 kim lip floating up = mirroring jinsoul in singing in the rain when she unleashed her odd eye powers 8:33 gowon descending on earth - note her blue hair n blue mist scene. blue corresponds to jinsoul and recall jinsoul had the words "fallen angel" in neon lights behind her when she rapped in egoist mv. turns out jinsoul is not the fallen angel but gowon is. gowon falls onto earth and causes the butterfly effect. 10:18 the butterfly signifies the butterfly effect has come into effect.

[@GardenWall31]

That "with all loona's around the world was very spot on, I couldn't even read it, and earlier someone said a different word, but this one made more sense now, and the oec place ref is 🔥 also haseuls ✈ 🕊 💚 srsly the theories hits me so hard like the meteors hit the ground behind heejin

[@louisetagac7077]

Wah- How- You really have good eyesight and a big brain- How did you even know all of this- It was fun watching it btw, You really had good explanation to the theory

[@ramonksanchez3435]

I agree with alot of the theories about time/dimension manipulation with OEC. Choerry's inverted and mirrored angle, the rain/snow slowing down with Jinsoul and general reverse footage. With time reversing this could mean that yyxy never left Eden. For instance, when Vivi gets to the car location, Yves is already gone and the only thing left are the crazy amount of apples she ate/threw away in the new MV. This could also mean that Chuu and GoWon never got a red apple either. Perhaps Go Won not descending/falling to Earth but maybe is actually ascending back to Eden. With Olivia they reused similar imagery from Egoist, the wolf and the red eyes, before she joined the rest of the Loona. And let's face it, Olivia was the one who set the moon on fire in so what, so the would need to stop her from doing so. Now, my theory for 1/3 is bit out there. If everyone in 1/3 are 'normal' people, maybe their memories should have been wiped. But Hyunjin's is back on Earth but her shoe was left back on the moon and a butterfly appears at the end which could signify that she remembers all the events. If so maybe she'll be part of OEC instead of Choerry in this new world. Or maybe this could be an alternative Hyujin (dark Moon) since she was originally wearing all white with Heejin, but she's the only one to with black shoes at the end. Lastly, Yeojin looks like she's also back on Earth, but notice that she has similar gems on her face very similar to Heejin? Could they be the same person where Yeojin be a younger version of Heejin that was caused by the time manipulation? The gems on Yeojin are only on when she's alone on earth, not when's she's in the supermarket.

[@JinSoulmatexd]

big thumbs up, very str8 forward explanation ! take care orbits and as always stan loona !!!

[@The-Stone-Lion]

Girl Front has rewinding tapes (spinning circles) signifying a rewinding of time. Both are mirrored in this video. Note, the rain is shown to freeze in motion in Jinsoul's phone booth shot. We also see suspended paint cans in Yeojins shopping cart shot, implying time is paused before the reverse. There was also a flash of old timey, vhs style static when Yves kicked the screen. Static was used for some of the butterfly teasers, iirc, and was theorized to show a change between worlds? Might also be linked to the Rain 51db video.

[@hbpesse]

Kim lip going up takes the same steps as Heejin in the So What trailer (with the piano sounds). Kim Lip finds Heejin in Hi High.

[@bebemenemen7363]

maybe dancing in reverse in the moon represents their life in the moon in the beginning.

[@Kharmatos13]

or them reversing time to try again

[@mesCheerios]

or ganggangsullae

[@DD-jn4vj]

5:27 Btw, in this scene theres a sea behind them, i thought about Choerry or Haseul since they both go near seas in the mv's. I don't know if it makes sense, but since this four have some conection with her (Choerry) i kinda see this as a point to be considered for some reason :]

[@ink8027]

I think it is also notable how Choerry is with yyxy and Gowon is with 1/3. This means Choerry has successfully linked Gowon with Hyunjin, the thing she was trying to do in Girls front. And at the end, we see a blue butterfly with Hyunjin. Butterfly is Gowons color, and it fits her hair color too

[@teesomnia]

Its so wired ,when ever I miss on loona,I keep coming back here to get my medicine_I love loona so much.

[@izioandme]

gowon's hurricane simply means a butterfly effect as one description butterfly effect has is that a butterfly flappings its wings could cause a storm in another place in earth

[@fabiant.2485]

What i just realized: The yellow eyed wolf transitions directly into a frontal view of the black car (with yellow headlights) followed by another shot of that car doing circles around olivia. To me this seems like a symbolic representation of the wolf circling/stalking her.

[@Sam-mo6cp]

Really great video it deserves better and the title is totally right that airplane theory blown my mind

[@adambouchouchi6118]

5:29 same blue mist from FavOrite

[@JAKESEOUL31tv]

I love loonA for all of this !!!

[@euphoriacover2653]

I believe that all the scenes before the second chorus (when it shows midnight on the clock) are the destruction of Earth bc of the moon falling. That's why after they are on moon and Yeojin seems to be in a devastated place (the Earth). Of course Cherry is upside down cause she is on the other side. Also I think that they are starting to go back at the end of the MV cause the meet of all the worlds (eden, Odd, Earth) creates an imbalance and the break of the Mobius Strip. And as a comparison of Hi High Gowon smoke is now blue, Chuu seems to be at the same place of Haseul (Clothes, petals, field, car and of course the plane) and Kim Lip scene reminds me the second verse with Choerry, Jinsoul and her around Olivia.

[@pamuUwiw]

A theory of Mine: The girls were trying to revert the events in So What to avoid destroying the Moon, so they made a ritual to go to the past (That explains why before the MV started the Moon that appears in their logo is backwards with a black background foreshadowing that something bad is gonna happened) but they fail and end up traveling thru more time resulting in all of the events that happened in the previous MVs were erased, Yeojin is lost again since Haseul found her in High Hi, the Moon once again is incomplete due to the fact that they haven't met up yet

[@tanyazdanovich2094]

i noticed that in a song there's always clock sound, but in mv all the loops that looks like clocks are going backwards, like reversed :car around Olivia Hye, girls dancing in store, moons around Kim lip, then girls running backwards and moons too, even rain goes backwards

[@synovelle]

This timeline is INSANE

[@maiheartx]

They are always going in reverse after new events. A new cycle is going to began. The new changes produces this big hurricane (according to the butterfly effect theory and the lyrics) so this happens everytime since hi high. But when the möbius starts again, they have to find each other again and looks like they return to their worlds.

[@thalesshu6615]

To me; the missing shoe its a Cinderalla reference, yes. Losing a shoe at 12:00? BUT NOT ONLY we know Yves changed her shoes, every time she comes to Earth. we see Chuu doing the same when following Yves we also know OEC has converse as their characteristics shoes... to me, after the hurricane and rewinding, Hyujin was stuck between two worlds, teh converse represent OEC's realm and the barefoot, the post apocalyptic earth

[@nct666]

another thing about the grocery store scene with yeojin in the cart; she's surrounded by the same canned cherries that jinsoul eats in the egoist music video

[@Hidye1]

I thought about this too, but the cans in the store didn't have the writing we see in the Egoist mv, so I didn't comment about it.

[@fikriabdul2960]

I believe the 2jin scene took place way before vivid cause there were no colors in that specific scene. whereas in vivid lyrics it all revolves around colors and how she started bringing different colors into loonaverse. this was further proven by that teaser of heejin's in premiere greeting being in black and white

[@ramadragneel5703]

Yeah, thanks buat analisis nya dude

[@dilipkumarbhatti3754]

Great video bro keep it up, looking more videos like this 👍👍👍

[@fergusonover604]

I have an idea What if after so what they're working to reverse everything so they can repair everything... But like in all time travel things... Has a cost They get to recover some things and make some big changes (more members are with Olhye... And in love4eva they used to relegate Olhye; yeojin is with them; the group is together... Etc) But end up messing some thingd up. They create a new world with a new paradox... Now hyunjin is the lost girl instead of yeojin after the shift (when they're dancing in the campfire), Kim lip is the new goddess of the loonaverse (her ascending), what if a new odd eye circle is created (Jinsoul leaders it and the other members are swifting between one member of 1/3 and one member of yyxy), vivi is human again, and now they're all in the odd place where Choerry treverses usually Hyunjin became the lost girl... And this time gowon is her guardian (just as Haseul was yeojin's guardian) So now they're looking for hyunjin in the new reverse loona world of the loonaverse And since the cycle reversed(and also they're in reverse world where Choerry can go) ... Technically the cycles reversed... So my suppositions are that this is the new order: new 1/3: olivia, gowon, chuu and choerry The / of 1/3: yves (i just contradicted myself... Shit hahaha... But kinda makes sense since according to the choreo of voice (not sure where i read it i just read it) yves is... Eve... Obviously... So she's the different girl now) newOEC : Jinsoul (she's the new leader of the oec), kim lip (but now as a goddess ,and vivi (literally the odd girls now New yyxy: yeojin, Haseul, hyunjin (she's the x in yyxy now, and Heejin... But Heejin is the ruler of the eden since she created That way at least one girl from each sub unit is important for the reorganization of the world (heejin as the ruler and goddess, kim lip as a newborn goddess, and yves as the eve of the 1/3, the missing part that completes the eden Now that's just an idea i have... I'm not good at this stuff... I suck at making theories but i like to check them so... Yeah don't hate me please Srry for my bad writing... My phone is not working well and just had a stroke while I was writing this

[@fergusonover604]

Btw... What if the girls that are wirh olivia are like their gang to mess up the loonas (she still knows and remembers what happened when they weren't together so she's taking advantage pf thw reorganization of the world and the close the loonas are to just destroy them at once

[@blameviolet]

as a new loona stan, im excited to learn about their lores and theories but it gets too overwhelming for me xD

[@IASSAASSAI]

Vivi(the human) rn is in the u between world protected by OEC as Kim lip is a reference of the 3 moons to lcm

[@aywlrt]

This suddenly came into my mind. Here at 5:10, there are only 8 moon surrounded cause 4 more are dancing in the middle

[@lemeoriy]

gowon had butterflies in her mv and then in the butterfly mv and now in why not