High court rules Ulez expansion legal

[@Theflyguy522]

So ULEZ is for health grounds… yet if you pay £15 a day then it’s O.K… Everyone should submit a freedom of information act request to find out where the money goes…

[@dontdoxmeforthis6398]

If only they put this much effort into crime

[@Marvin-dg8vj]

Watching the threats and confrontation in shops these days with no police presence I would agree with you

[@AB-zl4nh]

Air pollution KILLED 4,000+ Londoners prematurely and costs each Londoner £1,000+ PER YEAR. It's funny how people cherry when they care.

[@WKDMOUSE67]

How true no money to be made catching criminals and those in power don’t go to jail.

[@paulaa3085]

Plot Twist: They are the criminals

[@eddiebear34]

It makes no sense. Stop car pollution.... by making people take the long route.

[@adriangear106]

It's being done on purpose, every town and city will be the same, then it'll be us next

[@stephen3511]

15 min cities incoming. No thanks!

[@johnwhalley8270]

They'll... Say we're pollutants and tax us for it? Is that what you're getting at?

[@johnwhalley8270]

​@@stephen3511YOU HAVE THE TUBE AND BUSSES, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR KEYSTER

[@limpethead]

You will get taxed for farting

[@organichuman]

​@@johnwhalley8270We don't want public transport. This has nothing to do with reducing pollution either. Try reading their official documents. They want a 95% to 100% reduction of private car ownership between 2030 and 2040 and that includes EVs. It is totalitarian tyranny.

[@gwilliams8656]

Why does the crime in London not get the same passion

[@DigiDriftZone]

Criminals won't pay the tax :)

[@Hindsighht]

It’s a much more complex issue that can’t just be dealt with by implementing a single sweeping policy like this.

[@Isleofskye]

@@Hindsighht Strangely enough,when I was 18 and walking thru Peckham or Brixton :3am/4am after a night out, with no car, I felt completely safe walking home in the early 1970's living there.

[@logicalView]

Biggest Criminal is Saddick😢

[@Zander7.5]

Drag this little "man" out of power!!

[@mohammedibrar3299]

It’s coming in every town & city soon if we don’t rise up !

[@sonic-factory]

lol I take it you read this in the Daily Fail.

[@adamstanford2549]

​@@sonic-factoryItake it you're very naive if you don't realise this

[@mohammedibrar3299]

@@sonic-factory you mean the Daily Tale ?

[@evgeniynagornyak1150]

He spent taxpayers money for taking all the village ( family) to holidays.

[@faze_ibr]

This government is absolutely disgusting. We need everyone to refuse paying this ulez.

[@strangemagic5502]

It's not the government on this occasion or don't you read

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

No, we need the 10% of drivers driving these terrible old cars to get rid of them and buy something cleaner. Or take the bus instead.

[@freshprince3891]

If you don't believe they're both on the same side then you need to stop reading the bs. Did you also wear the mask when they told you to wear it and not see your family members?

[@freshprince3891]

Why don't you stay at home ontill you feel safe to come out? The rest of us will live without fear of the air.

[@bannjaxx]

@@strangemagic5502 Boris introduced it whilst mayor, tories have a majority and could easily stop it, ask yourself why they dont.

[@michaelharrison3602]

ULEZ like the Congestion charge is just another cash cow for politicians

[@1ramus1]

let him go to Pakistan and let him introduce ULEZ in the first row there. I would really like to see what the Pakistanis would do with him.

[@mickmg]

He wouldn't last 5 minutes and it would not be peaceful either.

[@P_Barne_II]

No matter who Londoners vote in, its all about them making money. I personally believe that the damage is already done which cannot be reversed.

[@amjidali588]

​@@tomfox747dude, it's about money ffs

[@kowalski7086]

Money and control is what it's about. And the idea of controlling us all clearly isn't working but that won't matter in the end because they are making all this money

[@ChoppingtonOtter]

How ironic, Labour ensuring only the rich can use their cars.

[@_CaptainCookie]

This was forced by the conservatives

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

It only applies to the worst 10% of cars. 90% don't have to pay it. It's not only the rich. Those highly polluting cars should be scrapped as soon as possible.

[@strangemagic5502]

​@@_CaptainCookieno it wasn't. The government on this occasion had no influence. Get your facts right

[@_CaptainCookie]

@@strangemagic5502 it was a condition from Grant Shapps (conservative transport secretary) as part of the government bailout of TFL after it went bankrupt due to the pandemic. You are the one who needs to get your facts right

[@johnconnor3865]

Authoritarian Socialists. Never ends well.

[@reecedutfield9305]

Everyone should just REFUSE to pay it!!!

[@mikeb53]

This. If literally everybody just refused to pay there'd be nothing they could do. Sometimes, mass civil disobedience is the only way.

[@johnwhalley8270]

Well, not really. They'll probably just hand out fines far more expensive than paying the nominal fee

[@shit__gamer]

​@@johnwhalley8270with an attitude like that yes they will, fkn fanny.

[@johnwhalley8270]

And then if you don't pay that? You go to jail. Nice job. Take climate change seriously, because what your generation doesn't seem to understand is that my generation are the ones that'll be swimming around in a veritable pool of your mistakes.

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

@@mikeb53and porridge time for those with your views

[@caeroeth-anoeth2222]

Tax grab pure and simple and preparation for pay-per-mile to fill a budget gap. Air quality in Outer London is good - rather better than Central London which has had ULEZ for a long time. The previous expansion didn't improve air quality. The Mayor's own figures show this.

[@excess824]

April 2019 isn't exactly a long time

[@johnwhalley8270]

Absolute bullhonkey. You londoners don't seem to understand that a V8 engine inside of a Range Rover is more polluting than a Prius. And you even less understand that you still face congestion in the outskirts, and plainly should be paying higher per mile considering that you have the finest public transport in the country. But oh no, I can't drive my Hummer through Slough, how am I ever going to cope??

[@shit__gamer]

​@@excess8244 years nearly half a decade?

[@alanhat5252]

You obviously haven't been outside London - the whole of London stinks, inner & outer London, it's no wonder children's lungs aren't growing.

[@alanhat5252]

You know Ella Roberta Adoo-Kissi-Debrah lived by the South Circular Road?

[@aldo8508]

Keep voting for him Londoners or choose not to vote and keep him in. Well done!👏

[@sonic-factory]

We will do! Best mayor we've ever had, I'd say.

[@robertedwards2442]

Bit like the voters here in Wales. Constantly moaning but vote the same clowns back in!

[@aldo8508]

@@sonic-factorythe power of the vote

[@sonic-factory]

@@aldo8508 Yeah it's great when it goes your way.

[@freshprince3891]

Do you believe voting counts? It doesn't matter who you vote for the same agenda will be played. Don't pay, stand together

[@stunnerofagunner]

I am British, my family name dates back hundreds of years on this Island. Even had a coat of arms at one point. My grandfather died in World War 1 & his son survived the second. My heritage is English, Irish, French & Romani. My family is mixed race, and I am proud of my country. I am sorry to say but I genuinely believe the best thing to do as a Brit right now is save your money and get off of this rock. The leadership is immature & weak. The opposition is even less so. If you don't, your children will pay for it.

[@josephlee4443]

Sadly I feel the same and before I had kids I always thought my kids would grow here. Also Romani/showman / English. I'm disappointed in all of it.. so much tax snd so wokemess. So much bull. I'm tired of it! Spain seems like an OK option 😂

[@stevejones2310]

@@josephlee4443 how has wokeness affected you personally?

[@johnwhalley8270]

Come from a hard b×stard line of Irishmen, Welsh and British, with a little Italian heritage buried in there. my best advice? Don't let them drive you away. Because then the only people left are the people like them. And those ideas that they generate are like a cancer, and it'll spread and spread until the whole world collapses. Do the right thing. Be the change you want to see. Be ready for action.

[@stevejones2310]

We've had shocking governments for 50 years. But we've only ourselves to blame for voting for them

[@johnwhalley8270]

@@josephlee4443 Don't be tired, be upset and angry. If this is how you see it, then protest! Get out there on the street and say something about it. Get organised. Collectivised.

[@Jammyg1t]

This is exactly what we need during a financial crisis

[@orcashorts5813]

Yes! All that's missing is a sleeping tax and then and only then will it be heaven on earth :)

[@alanhat5252]

90% of cars won't be affected by it (my 11 year old car won't), it's the ancient gas guzzlers that don't get driven much anyway that will be affected.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@alanhat5252 The real figures put it at something like 70% of cars, not 90% - so 3 of 10 affected. That's quite a lot. But 100% will be affected because you'll be paying your plumber's and handyman's ULEZ. Plus, you know, pay per mile and all that that's coming in 2-3 years.

[@BigSupes81]

It's all planned.

[@ChiSa123]

​@@alanhat5252 Only cheap cars over 20 years should be considered but ULEZ is going after cars that are only 15 years old and probably of the highest fuel standards at that time.

[@Isleofskye]

We all love a cheeky chappie. This Judge is getting the poor off the roads so there is less traffic for him and his peers...

[@gazsykes67]

I take it they’re gonna scrap the third runway at Heathrow then 👍🏼

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Heathrow comes under the ulez, it's going to affect people going on holiday. Hundreds of pounds extra to park your car while you're away.

[@SuccessShared]

​@@Robert-cu9bmMore legalised theft...

[@rb1062]

Wonder how people who work at and out of Heathrow will cope.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@jackpike7812 I know, I said that. Tens of thousands of people a year park their car at Heathrow.

[@brownmoney27]

​@@rb1062bus

[@SE16Proud]

I.m ok i.ve got stick on number plates..when entering the ulez zone it simply says Pi55 Off....😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

[@nicho165]

Where's the proof that throwing money at the problem will clear the air we breath there is none.

[@leahashley9330]

I can sense a new poll tax riot

[@jimbo6693]

It's desperately required here ASAP...

[@rb1062]

Hope so.

[@abdurroof51]

Your policy is bad policy for labour party

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

I can’t

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

@@abdurroof51good policy for my lungs 😊

[@Txvyb445]

This is too get less traffic on the roads,so only the wealthy people can drive their electric cars.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

90% of cars are already exempt.

[@DigiDriftZone]

consequently it may reduce crime too, if nobody is allowed to leave their homes, less people to get stabbed? 😂 - I mean at least Sadiq finally tries to make London safer

[@kennethwilson2840]

That man is vile and as for those judges they showed no empathy for the commen people I'm beginning to hate this country

[@goych]

That’s interesting as I hate you

[@sonic-factory]

You could at least learn to spell "common" properly.

[@sonic-factory]

@user-kz4ke8mg4r lol.

[@MrIDFWU]

Blame the government who made the law 👍🏽

[@JamesW81]

Only beginning?

[@sailaway1949]

The court may have allowed, the public will have the final say at the ballot box.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

90% of drivers won't have to pay plus all those who don't drive. It's a tiny proportion of people. Don't think it'll make much difference.

[@sailaway1949]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 So if it’s small beer why are we even bothering implementing it? It is not necessary so dump it!!

[@DigiDriftZone]

​@@adrianthoroughgood1191 That statistic was debunked, it's 70% of cars. But 100% of households are impacted as you're paying your plumber's ULEZ. Plus Pay Per Mile in 2-3 years.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

@@sailaway1949 a small proportion of drivers are causing much more than their fair share of pollution.

[@dh7314]

So glad I don’t live in London

[@manwingchi9156]

Who care, these people have money to buy new car. Include the judge. If these people care, ask them to walk to work, go shopping. 😢😢😢😢

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

You can buy a 2nd hand car. It doesn't have to be new. Just not terrible. Only 10% of cars are so polluting they get there charge. 90% are already fine. Or use London's excellent public transport instead. That would be even better!

[@Isleofskye]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Are you, deliberately, trying to be funny? INNER LONDON=YES. I lived there for 29 great years from 1954-83. I have lived in Outer London for 40 years and had a fine standard of living thanks to having a car. My old work journey, which I made 6,000 times(3,000 returns) involved 4 walks,2 Buses,2 Trains,2 Tubes) assuming ha ha, that everything went smoothly and there were never any strikes it took between 2 and 2.5 hours each way. By car in the warm and dry and comfort? 45 minutes and 33 minutes, respectively,commencing my homeward journey at 11PM. Ridiculous Comment.

[@CouchCoop128]

Don't worry about them dead kids at the hands of rampant knife crime....go after emissions ...jesus maaate, when is he stepping down

[@DigiDriftZone]

Can't tax a dead kid I suppose?

[@just_chris1630]

What is all this BS about the poor driving cars in London. I was a student in London, and lived there for 5 years at a different time of my life. If you think there are millions of poor people driving around London you are dreaming. The poor are on a bike or walking.

[@markcorby2830]

Gonna cost huge amounts in admin chasing unpaid fines... Resist, defy, do not comply!!!

[@freshprince3891]

Funny how paying £12.50 a day to the gov some how helps the weather 🤔

[@bannjaxx]

nothing to do with weather, ULEZ is trying to clean London's filthy air a bit - it's working too.

[@johnwhalley8270]

It stops people who can't afford the levy from driving their cars so much, which cuts down on emissions

[@johnwhalley8270]

Inconvenience is a bigger motivator than even fear or lust

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@johnwhalley8270 not really, it's people replacing their 1 litre non compliant micra, with a 3 month newer range rover 4 litre that is compliant. That'll fix the air immediately.

[@supersardonic1179]

@@johnwhalley8270 Cutting down on emissions by pushing people to order new ones. What a brilliant idea.

[@mechtechmechanical1571]

this horrible little man needs to go at any cost

[@jameskeith7608]

He has no right at all to do this I fear the worst for him

[@jameshartlonuk]

How can he say he will listen to Londoners when he can’t even listen to the questions being asked and answering the question!

[@Renegade1127]

The guy is a psychopathic robot. Never gives a straight answer to anything, just keeps spouting the same bullshit.

[@irishstew9951]

This is exactly what happens when you put people in power that hate the country they are in/from it's pure madness

[@grime_garage]

So you are admitting that Boris hates this country, after all ULEZ was his idea

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@grime_garage You can be pro ULEZ in central but be against ULEZ in rural areas surrounded by fields and deer. There's no hypocrisy there.

[@grime_garage]

@@DigiDriftZone Apart from Richmond, nowhere in London is that rural. Boris the liar is also The man who advocated for Ruislp and Uxbridge police station to close when he was mayor but when Khan became mayor and was gonna do it Boris said he was soft on crime, Boris is trying to do the same thing again.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@grime_garage Havering - literally need to let deer cross the street, fields everywhere, no traffic, no air quality problems (check brown car guy, he shows where the air quality problems are), yet people are expected to breath poison on London public transport, going in and back out of London for 2.5 hours, to replace what would take a 15-20 minute drive.

[@grime_garage]

@@DigiDriftZone So out of 32 Boroughs in London, only 2 a rural. But none of that matters anyway because like Ive already stated ULEZ was the idea of Boris and It was approved by David Cameron and recently Shapps forced it upon Khan. LEZ already existed and covered the whole of London but was aimed more for heavy goods.

[@LAD907]

people dont care for reasoning when even more money is being taken out of their pockets

[@jaksonsantos64]

What a disaster interview, just repetitive lies

[@paulthepiper4602]

DOWN WITH ULEZ AND GET KHAN OUT

[@aaronwalderslade]

As long as you're squeezing out more tax units you'll get extra support.

[@Silver-st2zq]

Over expensive London just got even more expensive...............

[@grahamcliffe8672]

How can this be called an ultra low emmission zone when cars that dont meet the emmission standards are still allowed in? If everyone chooses to pay the charge then emmissions are not reduced in the slightest, its a tax plain and simple. Should be called Londons emmision grift, or LEG for short.

[@DavidKnowles0]

But because most citizens are law abiding citizens and will either change their cars or change how they travel, it does lower air pollution.

[@grahamcliffe8672]

@@DavidKnowles0 It has nothing to do with law abiding citizens, because it isnt illegal to drive a high emmission vehicle in the zone, you just have to pay for the privilege. Low income people cant afford to change their cars, they either have to pay the charge or are forced off the road and into overcrowded extortionally expense public transport. Drivers of large engined SUVs or sports cars etc some of which have the highest emmisions, dont care they just pay the charge, who can blame them. The only way this works as a way to reduce vehicle emmissions is to ban ICE vehicles completely, and that includes Sadiq Khan's £300,000 five-litre V8 armoured Range Rover, he is driven to work in every day and make it EVs only.

[@kblchannel9411]

The cost of living out of control now pay £12.50 ripping off the working class

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

In my opinion it’s criminal

[@awesome29march75]

Unless we deal with Climate change, we're all toast.

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

@@awesome29march75 yep, agree but I don’t believe this will have huge affect on climate change. It’s more related to clean air that is also a positive. However, I believe in the big picture the embodied energy in making the new cars and mining the materials for the batteries will cause more problems for climate change. With the way China and India are pumping out fossil fuels we don’t stand a chance anyway.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

​@@XTSu-sl1bbeven with today's grid an EV produces only 1/3 of the emissions of an ICE car, including manufacture and running it. By 2035 we are due to have a totally fossil fuel free power grid. Then EVs will be even better. Pollution from mining etc needs to be minimised as much as possible, but it is negligible compared to pollution from coal and oil production and burning.

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 what about China India and the GCC.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

@@XTSu-sl1bb One of the best ways to pressure other countries to do more is to reduce our emissions to shame them into catching up. It is unfortunate that China is building new coal plants but did you know that China has more solar and wind generation than any other country? They are second for nuclear. Their renewables plus nuclear is almost enough to cover the usage of their population. Their fossil fuel generation is mostly to power factories making stuff for us. Even ignoring that aspect their emissions per person are still only about half that of the US. Hopefully these coal plants will mostly only be used as backup power when needed with most electricity coming from low carbon sources, like how coal is mostly only used for backup in the UK. Then their emissions will be a fraction of a full time plant. India is moving to solar in a big way. They also a leading research in thorium power as they have huge deposits of that. The GCC's own emissions are not all that large as their populations are quite small. They mostly export FF for others. Personally I am in favour of focussing on reducing the need for FF rather than restricting supply as high prices hurt poor people who haven't managed to change over yet. The other thing we could do is introduce a price for carbon. That could be applied both to fossil fuel production and import, and to import of goods produced using fossil fuels. That would give an incentive for other countries to reduce their fossil fuel usage the make their exports more competitive. If you take the money from the carbon tax and distribute it equally to all citizens then those who use less than the average amount will be financially better off.

[@craigpearce7282]

You have not listenened to Londoner's we're not complying !!

[@juliehorton1246]

@craigpearce7282...Good for you👍

[@christinevenner183]

Khan has been mayor for far too long, about time he was booted. Hes so rich he has no idea how much £12 a day is to normal people.

[@_CaptainCookie]

This wasn't his choice. The conservatives forced him to go ahead with the expansion as part of the TFL bailout. This is all their fault, not his.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Only 10% of cars drivers will have to pay it. They should sell their old car to someone outside of the city so they aren't causing so much pollution.

[@wingit7602]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 I smell bullshit

[@christinevenner183]

@adrianthoroughgood1191 You are shortsighted. Once Khan's grift goes national, it will be everywhere. The traffic it will affect most is long haul trucks who can't switch to electric because of the distances they need to cover. The £12 a day won't be swallowed by the exporters, the haulage companies, or the importers. It will just get added to the price of everything that is imported. Your food, your drinks, your clothing, shoes, household goods, etc. Do you think car drivers are the only ones affected? So very short-sighted.

[@TheRealMikeMichaels]

​@@christinevenner183finally someone who has intellect! ULEZ will F up the economy even more.

[@samrowbotham8914]

The judge who has taken a judicial oath to uphold the Ancients Laws of England has violated his oath of office and should be arrested for committing treason against the English people. It clearly states in our Constitution that we have the right to travel freely unimpeded by Agents of the Crown. I will not pay this charge for the same reason I refuse to pay council tax it is unLawful.

[@belkentens]

All bent

[@ps3isthebest560]

I think its about time the uk ppl start telling the judges in their profession that they are just as bad as the criminals and need to be fired from that job

[@thomasrutherford4113]

Stand together don’t pay

[@Zander7.5]

Now you've got it!!

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

The 90% of drivers who already have a less polluting car should stand up to the 10% driving old bangers and tell them to sort their sh*t out!

[@thomasrutherford4113]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 oh so the poorest who do the jobs that keep society going have to suffer yet if you check any hybrid car they produce more emissions than any other car google it you’ll be mugged off channel 5 done a documentary about it so yet again get ya facts right spaz

[@bjorntheviking6745]

Don’t pay it, don’t get rid of your car. These clowns do not have the resource to enforce this, otherwise you really own nothing and on your daily dose of SSRI will be happy

[@Alex-bz7re]

Courts are bought and paid by the government and big corporations. Of course they won’t find any fault in paying the same green tax 3 times, once at the pump, CC and ULEZ. They didn’t find any problem in paying VAT on the green tax at the pump. What do you expect from them?

[@barrygriffiths4530]

Never trust a rat

[@ae5668]

Makes up numbers out of his head and expects people to belive them.

[@shishapundit8495]

Full on BS what about the stats on using central line tube and how bad the air quality is and health effects it has on long term use. This is a full on tax grab in a financial crisis

[@raul3450]

Sadie Khan need to be sacked. Waste of space. Shame 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

[@carlderbyshire1925]

Habitual liar and must be removed

[@jayantparmar7102]

I don't vote Labour party any more. In future.

[@limpethead]

Its the start of making everyone a prisoner in their own house. Expect constant goalpost moving.

[@emmabrooker166]

Paranoid claptrap.

[@ilfordwines]

I think crime is spreading more than pollution in uk specially in London optical these politicians not doing anything about this

[@A.D.Hayche.D]

@@emmabrooker166 you'll see

[@dh7314]

Tin foil hat nutcase

[@idontusetwitter]

Guy Faux had the right idea.....

[@BunyanaRed1958]

What happens if everyone pays the charge and carries on using their cars ?

[@BIAWolf]

Then nothing changes but the government get richer, win win

[@jonathancolling2284]

Meanwhile Putin is blowing up stuff daily and creating HUGE amounts of pollution but your average person who is running an older car to save up for a house, or because they cannot afford a newer one, is FINED for £12.50 per day! Well done Sadiq - NOT

[@edgar6628]

While Sunak assures us not to worry to hold our nerve he fully understands and he is trying his upmost do bring inflation down. Yet he approved the extended ulez zone

[@timelesstravel1321]

While doubling interest rates.

[@billyp2516]

He needs to fulfil the WEF’s agenda

[@cockneycharm3970]

The end of London for the people 😡

[@goych]

As if that hasn’t already happened, I grew up in London, but then boomers thought it would be hilarious to ruin it for everyone else and be clueless about it, cheers

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

It only applies to 10% of cars. It's not very strict. It should be stricter.

[@TheAArmstrong]

I think London died decades ago for proper Brits. It’s a dump.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 That statistic was debunked, it's 30% of cars, 100% of households as you're paying your plumber's ULEZ. Plus Pay Per Mile in 2-3 years.

[@goych]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 ban all cars! Woohoo

[@TheBFHmontage]

😂😂😂 people acting like they want polluted cities

[@Isleofskye]

These 70+-year-olds saying it will ruin any social life they have in OUTER London. Let them walk the 3 miles or cycle or get the half-hourly bus,in the pouring rain.

[@trnawa1982]

As again Just going after hard working people.

[@chrisstrider]

So they can afford a Mercedes but can’t afford to run it ? BS

[@Stevie-74]

Can you do basic maths? £12.50 a day - imagine you work in London and need the car to collect your young kids after work therefore necessitating its use. You can get a Merc for not much money - but paying that ULEZ fee 20 times a month is more than I pay on my own car payments, by a fair margin.

[@chrisstrider]

@@Stevie-74 I can’t imagine anything worse

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

​@@Stevie-74that is exactly the point. You are not supposed to just pay the charge. You are supposed to buy a less polluting car on finance instead as that is cheaper.

[@tomhermens7698]

Go to the supreme court. As always, let the little people and small businesses pay!!! Alternative to grabbing tax is to only allow electric cars in, into the centre not outer london.

[@JamesW81]

Electric cars are not cleaner either, they produce a fuckload more carbon whilst building them and still need coal fired power stations to produce the electric they run on. It's not zero emissions, it's displaced emissions.

[@illegalopinions4082]

EVs aren't an alternative lol

[@juliehorton1246]

​@@JamesW81absolutely spot on

[@Mcsqw]

​@@JamesW81Electricity is electricity wherever it comes from, it hardly requires coal fired power stations specifically. I do totally agree however that the myopic laser focus on lithium ion electric vehicles is utterly stupid versus investigating the myriad other options we should be funding research into.

[@JamesW81]

@@Mcsqw Yes that's true, but most power (certainly here in the UK) is produced by burning fossil fuels. We do have one power station that burns wood pellets, but they've also been found be just as bad because of the glue that holds them together.

[@historickeeper]

Still a FAT NO keep pushing people Khan you will feel the the push back.

[@audreyamakihe5990]

Honestly we accept everything they throw at us

[@jasonking6892]

I didn't..... I left the UK 🇬🇧 35 years ago .no regrets

[@audreyamakihe5990]

Good on you

[@bigbasil1908]

We are a nation of mugs.

[@LLLLLLLLLucas]

Another stealth tax for the average person.

[@illegalopinions4082]

Anything is legal if you pass it through Parliament. The question is it _lawful,_ and the answer is _still_ "no".

[@SlayerEddyTV]

I guess you missed the recent news then. "The expansion of London's ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ) to the capital's outer boroughs has been ruled lawful by the High Court." Note the word 'lawful'. It is also a legal commitment so it doesn't matter who is the mayor of London. If the tories are so concerned about the people then I'm sure they will offer even more support as apparently 9/10 vehicles in the new ULEZ zone are already compliant.

[@alexmitchell7563]

Are you a lawyer?

[@illegalopinions4082]

@@SlayerEddyTV I guess you missed both public consultations. Given their results were "no" to ULEZ there is no lawful grounds for it. Legal commitments, by their very nature, cannot override a citizen's innate rights. I'm not even going to comment on the absurdity of taking money from people with one hand and "supporting" them with the other.

[@SlayerEddyTV]

@@illegalopinions4082 And that was covered by the High Court which said it was 'lawful'. lol good luck with life then if you think "citizen's innate rights" overrides what is legal. You will find out the hard way that if you think it does.

[@illegalopinions4082]

@@SlayerEddyTV If you think black letter law overrides natural law then I am not the one who will be learning something the hard way. If you are comfortable letting your rights be violated then go ahead, I won't judge your fetishes. It really doesn't matter what he said when the evidence points to the contrary. There is no mandate for the policy as there is no public consent. It makes the entire conversation irrelevant, but then people like you exist. Quite a shame you're given a vote.

[@ACsPianoCorner]

This is a nuanced debate. I completely agree with the overall spirit of the Ulez. We need to reduce the pollutants we’re putting in the air, reduce our reliance on fossil fuels and move towards greener options. Climate change is real and we do need to act now. That said, putting this burden on the poorest in society is heinous. The average electric car costs £33,000 (or £22k avg. second hand) whereas the average petrol/diesel car £19,000 (or 12k avg. second hand) according to auto trader. The poorest members of our society simply don’t stand a chance. The government should better invest in schemes to make it much more beneficial for all drivers to buy electric, have low emission cars or have car conversions. Mechanics like that gentlemen shown will have business boom if the government had legitimate schemes to convert classic cars to electric (it would perhaps require some up-skilling at first maybe, but his business wouldn’t be half the value. I’ve driven for over 20+ years and gave up my car 8 years ago because I moved to London and the cost of keeping it was just too high. For many with the extension of the Ulez this will become the same. I hope the overall goal is met but the government mustn’t do this in isolation it needs more. My fear is they (the government) will do what they always do - say we have to make “hard decisions” meaning they’ll charge/tax the poor and working class and do nothing to properly support the average person. There’s more I could say on this, but that’s long enough for 1 post.

[@alexmitchell7563]

I'm glad someone is thinking about our children's health. Sadiq should tax all the McDonald's in London to pay for those affected by ulez.

[@huzurgelecek]

Ulez expension is legal but Ulez itself is not legal. This is another way to make poor pay more. There are mega yatchs entering hearth of London, they do not pay any charge because they are rich.

[@alanjones6359]

Big engines on those yachts are they taxed ?

[@huzurgelecek]

@@alanjones6359 No man, in Britain billionaires never pay tax on property or yatchs, or anything, because regime in Britain only wants rich people around and they hate poor people.

[@alanjones6359]

@@huzurgelecek thats right us ordinarily people like us have and always subsidised these these tax dodging bastards

[@traveler650]

That's labour finished

[@AlexPeka]

I'm for it. Climate change policy transcends popular opinion, and without decisions like this we'll all stick our heads in the sand until its too late. Making sure to point the finger elsewhere while we do it!

[@orcashorts5813]

We breathe more when sleeping. We should be taxed for sleep.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

It's not very strict. 90% of cars exempt. I don't think many if those are EVs yet. About 1/3 of new cars are, but there's a looong way to go.

[@Divdive]

My question is where do they find such a muppet , he can only say two sentences and repeat it no matter what the question is

[@evgeniynagornyak1150]

From the bus driver. His father was.

[@OrdinaryBloke66]

LABOUR DONT WANT POOR PEOPLE DRIVING. A VOTE FOR LABOUR IS A VOTE TO WALK.

[@yaddayadda....9080]

Nothing they do is legal!!😂

[@maximemaxime7705]

He needs to go! He is so thick ! People cannot afford to pay £12.50 a day. How is it that hard to understand ?

[@stevejones2310]

He said 90% of vehicles are already compliant. Not forgetting the percentage of residents who don't have a car at all. And not forgetting the scrappage scheme. I bet less than 5% of the residents in the outer London boroughs will end up paying a penny more.

[@johnconnor3865]

Why cant he talk properly? When he speaks, it sounds like a Cassetteboy mashup. What a berk!

[@sudhapatel5687]

UKEZ will be generating lot of money. Hope the taxpayers get better services like more police as ref crime rate is going up. The roads and pavements are dangerous and traffic is a nightmare

[@pmarkerson70]

Wonder how many brown envelopes that had then to be legal

[@johnwhalley8270]

Absolute idiocy to try and claim that people who could very easily take public transport, cant now take public transport.

[@BillSikes.]

How will I get my welding rig and all my ladders on the bus ?

[@johnwhalley8270]

@@BillSikes. Ingenuity. I've moved house on worse public transport than what you have

[@johnwhalley8270]

@@BillSikes. On a more serious note though, I assume you're a welder? If so, you likely work for a company. Assuming this is the case, it's very easy for you guys to carpool in whatever the biggest car you have is and slap the gear in the boot, or alternatively find one of your mates with a van. Remember; 12 split across 3 people (the standard seating arrangement of the front of a work van) is only 4 pounds a day to work for more money than anywhere else in the country

[@BillSikes.]

@@johnwhalley8270 You're funny 🤡🤡🤡

[@mamafreaky]

Suddenly Conservatives are so concerned about Dr's and nurses😂😂😂😂

[@Isleofskye]

I am concerned about my local Doctor. He is only on £110,000 per annum and got £30 every time anyone had a Covid jab. Nice work of you can get it...

[@chello70]

No they are not.

[@Isleofskye]

@@chello70 He was being sarcastic and ironic.

[@stevesmith1793]

People are sovereign not politicians, this is a crime against the sovereign people of London

[@AdamDziobek]

The government can't solve any social problem but Sadiq by taxing us more will make the sun cooler lol

[@fiddlecastro1453]

Yep. Leftwing nonsense in a nutshell.

[@alanhat5252]

What?

[@sonic-factory]

This literally makes no sense. Clearly the Putinbots are failing at language as much as they are at life these days.

[@AdamDziobek]

@alanhat5252 read it this is all bullshit. Created to control. It was hotter 150 years ago before combustion engines. I'm gobsmacked my comment didn't get removed

[@bannjaxx]

what has the sun got to do with it? its a fresh air act, nothing to do with the sun, the weather, the climate.....do you get a vote? jeezuz. no wonder the country's a mess with morons like you voting for whatever BS the Mail whispers in your ear - you're so susceptible its sad.

[@mehmetpektas9752]

People who did elected him deserve it.

[@dancer5355]

The court’s will always side with Labour conservatives and that they call the London mayor.

[@goych]

What?

[@stupot_64]

​@@goychObviously used a very bad AI to try and write a sentence that makes any sense.

[@brrbrr7961]

Tories did brexit, where are we? I remember 2016 ads on tv talking about how brexit would bring better prices, more work, more opportunities to get a house; complete opposite from what it is. All government is corrupt, we suffer they eat good.

[@fiddlecastro1453]

@@brrbrr7961 And what a surprise. EU loving Labour have wrecked London. So what now?

[@stevejones2310]

​@@fiddlecastro1453great news for asthma sufferers in London. Excellent news that khan won the legal case .

[@syedjafri3305]

I don’t agree with this

[@chindit6784]

In 6 months all of these boomers would have moved on once they realise their cars are compliant

[@fortyfour1654]

Trust the science

[@jontibloom6125]

Khan is a grifter spouting very dubious statistics .

[@HarleyN93]

This will be a massive boost to the government earnings I hope its worth it considering the cost to the poor

[@chadimirputin2282]

You get what you vote for enjoy London. 😂

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Yes I will enjoy the less polluted air thanks!

[@Jammyg1t]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Then you best vote to ban ALL vehicles, because brake dust pollutes too. But you’re no hypocrite, no ,no. You walk everywhere don’t you?

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

@@Jammyg1t EVs don't use brakes most of the time because they have regen braking, so very little brake dust. It's tiny compared to the pollution from ICE vehicles. I mostly travel by bicycle and train.

[@Jammyg1t]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Volume is less but they still produce. They are heavier vehicles , the same rule won’t apply to lorries and other heavy goods vehicles. Not to mention the cost and resource to manufacture the batteries. Batteries lose range as it ages. You cannot replace the battery, you must buy a new vehicle.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

@@Jammyg1t on modern EVs with temperature management the battery degradation is actually very low. Yes you lose a bit over time so range is reduced, but it still works. Old cars with reduced range will feed into a cheaper second hand market. The batteries last long enough that you don't even need to replace them in most cases as they last as long as the cars expected service life. Some cars are built in such a way as to make replacing the battery difficult but most are not. It is untrue to say you can't replace them. In some cars eg Teslas, you can even refurbish the battery by replacing just some of the cells rather than the whole battery. EV batteries can also be used for fixed storage after being removed from cars. When they finally can'teven be used for that after around 25 years they can be recycled. That isn't happening much yet because there are hardly any end of life batteries yet.

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

I hear the air quality is an issue on the tube 🤔🤔🤔

[@krpkrp3033]

It's time independent auditors went into the finacial books of Greater London under Khan and prove or disprove it's about air quality or not.

[@georgef822]

Pay me £12.50 and you can pollute as much as you like...

[@SlayerEddyTV]

People and the government need to get their priorities in order. Children are struggling to breathe, and in some cases are being killed by the toxic air pollution which is also linked to many other health issues, all caused by the burning of fossil fuels. The government just needs to give more support to all those who are affected, and if 9/10 vehicles are already compliant that shouldn't be much of a problem.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Yes exactly. Everyone in these comments seems to think everyone's going to have to pay. This is not like the congestion charge, it only applies to very bad cars which should be retired anyway.

[@nathanleigh3486]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 If you honestly think it will not creep more and more to cover more recent cars once the infrastructure is in place then you are delusional. This is how the do things, The Totalitarian Tip Toe, only a matter of time before this is nation wide and a high percentage of the population effected. All for the "greater good" This is a direct push towards 15 minute cities.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Yes, I am retiring my non compliant 1 litre micra and replacing it with a 3 month newer 4 litre range rover, that will fix the problem immediately.

[@shitzuation]

Khan not answering any of the interviewers specific questions is wild 🙃

[@Robotron5000Deluxe]

He doesn't need to, he's a dictator.

[@KeithMather-r4g]

You noticed that as well !!!! If ignorance is bliss, Sadiq. Khan must be the most blissful man on earth !!!! IDIOT !!!!😠😡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@tahaanzar123]

He said so many times he’s not gonna postpone, idk why she kept asking - a lot of other pressing questions that could have been asked

[@gareth449]

can`t drive your car on the road , then stop paying your road tax

[@ThePixey1000]

It might be legal but its IMMORAL

[@emmabrooker166]

It’s immoral to think you’ve a god given right to push your pollution into the air everyone depends on.

[@Britannia.]

Bye bye khan , you wont be mayor again thank goodness.