High End Finnish Cans: Silent Steel Suppressors

[@philllax1719]

Glad to see atf REEEEEEEEE is an industry term too

[@chadh3441]

🤣😂👍

[@unclejj509]

European dude with the REEEEEEEEEEE! Makin fun of the libtards on a global level! AWESOME!!!

[@jerodTSI]

🇺🇸🧂

[@joelewis.]

When he said quite expensive I was expecting quite a bit more than $600-700, for that price these look like a pretty good deal.

[@DUKEisALIVE]

Funny enough suppressors are a lot cheaper in the EU compared to the US. Probably the only Gun related thing where that is the case. I have a steel supressor from A-Tec which cost me 250 bucks and an aluminium supressor from Stalon which cost me 350 bucks. So 600-700 is actually one of the more expensive suppressors. Especially for steel

[@PancakesRevenge]

Luckily for us here in the United States, we offset that high price by adding the additional cost a $200 tax stamp after you pay for your can!

[@Kesssuli]

Like @TwoFace already said supressors in europe are treated as common item which is part of reason why their price is lower. And in Finland where that Silent Steel is coming supressor arent serialised in any way. You just had to have permit for firearm to prove your right to have one and then walk away from store with supressor, box of ammo and maybe bag of chips. And state wont ever know how many you have/own Civilian can also sell his can for somebody else and it is his responsibly to least check does other party have permit for firearm. Or throw that thing to trashcan if you simply dont care. Supressors for rimfires can go low as 40e(tax included) But rifle proof quality cans are usually around 300-400e So in that regards that guy is right when said more expensive side. If i check their producs in store with muzzle break/flashider for quick detachment that compination price is pretty much 700e.(tax included)

[@LRRPFco52]

I bought my Ase-Utra QD M4 suppressor in Finland for 400 euros in the 2007 if I recall. Sold it for the same FTF in Finland. They're just not that big of a deal. You could find them next to boat anchors and waders at the sporting goods store.

[@2A_Tree_Hugger]

The price is probably relative to distance. I would assume, after importing, the price would be comparable to what we see in our big box stores

[@ThomasRonnberg]

We have amazing silencers in finland. Some of the best engineers in the world come from Finland. We are like dwarves here

[@smurfaka]

Are we Swedes elves then? 😅

[@zadeify9596]

@@smurfaka Well, we hate each other so...

[@smurfaka]

@@zadeify9596 I’d say our relationship is more like Legolas and Gimli, hate is what we have towards orcs (russia)

[@basti080891]

I own one of the compacts, extremely nice to shoot on an ar. No gas to the face, very smooth cycling. Quiet enough.

[@werre2]

in Finland, most gun-related things are regulated skyhigh but suppressors are in practice unregulated. You need to own _a_ gun to buy one. Or one hundred. No limits no paperwork no registry on suppressors.

[@Skusty]

Same in Sweden since the summer of 2022, they are treated kinda like ammo, you can freely buy a supressor that fits the gun you have a license for.

[@Kesssuli]

@@Skusty How that is specified ? By caliber range by mm how big bullet can fit trough ? threads ? Or just purely common sense ?

[@Skusty]

@@Kesssuli caliber I would assume, 9x19mm suppressors for 9x19mm gund etc

[@dankcount]

Yeah In the us you can buy as many guns as you want too. No registry either. Private sells you can buy as many as you want. No limit no paperwork. Only if the state you live in isn’t ran by commie dipshits like California.

[@PeterSikachev]

In Poland a suppressor makes your gun "especially dangerous", just like full auto. But you don't even need to show your ID to buy it xD

[@dvpbase1909]

Have the compact streamer on ar no adjustable gas block and runs great very happy with their product good stuff

[@Mr.T-SI]

On thing shown in the video but not mentioned cans are baffle less design ,you can change the cores to adapt to different calibers and the blue core is designed for use with simunition , there is also an aluminum body option for bolt actions.

[@Exhumed86]

Omg, those suppressors are amazing!! Very high quality and advanced suppresors!🤩🤩 P.s: I'm Italian, and in Italy all type of suppresors are illegal for civilians.. this is so damn sad!😥

[@454FatJack]

Maybe hunting trip to 🇫🇮, and buy a silencer as gift . Show valid gun lincense /Police etc = and money that’s it.

[@Veldtian1]

It's because only mafioso hitmen in dark suits and violin cases use silencers didn't you know.

[@smurfaka]

Thats crazy, in Sweden every gun owner has one

[@canal10centrado]

In Portugal suppressors are not regulated, i can sell them to kids if i want to, also no SBRs (up to a point)...

[@MiamiMidwest]

Ver cool can design, I hope these come stateside

[@matthewfox3468]

In Germany you purchase your long gun or suppressor and at the store or private sale. Then you have 14 days to register that item on your waffenbesitzkarte (weapons card). This is done at the district level. You get a stamp on your card. Every stamp cost. Suppressor are indeed respectful.

[@mrfunswitch]

in germany the only way to get a suppressor is becoming a hunter and achieving this takes about a year or more and it costs alot of money so there aren't alot of people in germany that can become a hunter in the first place.

[@coolsenjoyer]

@@mrfunswitch I'm sure people who want to hunt in Germany will be able to do it just fine. Finland has a fraction of population of Germany and we have a thriving domestic 3-gun shooting sport SRA that requires owning a handgun and you need to practice supervised for 2 years on a rental or loaned gun before you can get your own. And now thanks to the new EU regulation you need a year to be able to get magazines higher than 10 round capacity, which are also a necessity for the sport.

[@mrfunswitch]

@@coolsenjoyer Is it doable for an ordinanry German citizen to make the hunting license? Sure it is but it's too expensive and too time consuming for most people that would like to hunt. Deamn, I didn't know that Finland has such strict gun laws.

[@coolsenjoyer]

@@mrfunswitch I mean yeah it definitely sucks that hunting there is almost as bad as getting "high capacity" magazines here, didn't mean to downplay that issue.. but my point is more that it doesn't really diminish the market as much since the overall population of the country is pretty big

[@rogerevans3112]

I'm glad there addressing the helo vibration issues, that's got me a number of times 🤣

[@keimolantio]

Those can are supreme beings. No gas to your face but still quite and long lasting

[@livingterminal5792]

Cans are a rip in the states which is crazy because they're half the price if not less in New Zealand !!

[@Sephiroth391]

Guns and New Zealand is a subject I'd like to learn more about

[@johnnymossville]

Such a nice gent. Knowledgeable too.

[@-joe-davidson]

Europe has the right idea about suppressors.

[@Exhumed86]

Unfortunatly not all the Eurpean countries :( I'm Italian, in Italy all type of suppressors are illegal for civilians 🥲

[@joostprins3381]

@@Exhumed86 like in the Netherlands, but the real weird thing is that on air guns they are allowed, but not on fire arms.

[@Exhumed86]

@@joostprins3381 Yeah, that's sounds weird. I really do not understand why in every country there are some stupid laws about firearms🙄

[@joostprins3381]

@@Exhumed86 well, for first it’s the easy two, the idea of control (99% of the crimes with guns are with illegal guns and are easier to get then legal ones) and the great equalizer, money. We have to renew our permit every year and this costs about 140 Euros every time.

[@tatskamaster]

@@joostprins3381 Wow.. That is F-ed up! And here I was complaining that getting a licence for a gun in Finland costs 105 euros as a one time payment. God I hate gun regulations lol

[@T_bone]

Now that is cool!!!

[@spookyindeed]

Haven't seen a mesh in a suppressor made since like 1950

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

It's viable in Europe but selling a mesh can in the US would be a very tough sell.

[@Mrgunsngear]

🇺🇸

[@sealove79able]

A great neat very interesting video and sound suppressors.It is like 180 degrees with firearms and silencers in the USA and Europe.At least these silencers are great for the CCW in a shorts just like a piece of cod.The price is quite affordable for these products.Have a good one. Did you see the HS Produkt booth?

[@edwardhoward4708]

On the European beer… Closest thing I have ever tasted too olde Chimay is the Belgian Ale from Blue Mountain Barrel House, a brewery just off the Blue Ridge Parkway in Central Virginia. There are many terrific brewpubs in the area. Their Bourbon barrel ale is also terrific. That’s all that I can speak to, from experience.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Looks nice. Those cans would still be viable in the US even with only one set of internals per tube. A 5.56 through a 30 cal tube is sort of a low back pressure setup by default.

[@DaaDrache]

"its just a can" PLEASE YEEEES, why not everywhere!!

[@ETHRON1]

Are they going to be imported...and if so who will have them.

[@timom6740]

Silent Steel offers a complete system for LE & professional users. 5:43 shows a blank firing adapter for training, additionally the manufacturer also offers an FX Simunition firing adapter. All adapters have the exact same weight as the original suppressor unit, according to the mindset "Train as you fight". It is a fantastic suppressor and a fantastic company to work with.

[@Clockwork0nions]

I wish we could have these in the state 😢

[@BEder-it4lf]

This guy has a Dueling Scar.

[@crazysham6396]

In Italy… “I need a suppressor” Italy law “NOPE”

[@DinoNucci]

I'll take 2

[@SmokesKwazukii]

if theyre that price in the US holy shit

[@watariovids1645]

Way cheaper than an OSS if they come in at that. I would definitely consider buying one.

[@PeterSikachev]

In Poland a suppressor makes your gun "especially dangerous", just like a full auto trigger group. But you don't even need to show your ID to buy it, let alone possess a gun/gun license xD

[@awsomedude9111]

@JamesReeves you need to wear the 5.11 Commando Kilt while your in Europe and tell us how you like it :) @TFBTV Show Time

[@realitycheck4158]

I'm on the pooper

[@dudesame2207]

Same

[@LibertysTeeth83]

Yup

[@realitycheck4158]

Bowl bros

[@argg.x]

Hey Cris, if the internals is replaceable and so is the cap removable, would it not be possible to run 556 and 30 cal on the same can, just replacing the internals and cap? not sure if I'm missing anything. (this would be to avoid 2 tax stamps and having multi-cal with a single can)

[@imperfectlump6070]

You could probably buy a second set of internal parts.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Mechanically, yes. Legally in the US, no, as the baffle set is considered a suppressor part and is therefore a suppressor. You could use the 30 cal internals and swap the endcaps for each caliber, which is what a lot of people do already.

[@argg.x]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz oh really? I thought they only applied to the parts that were serialized. Since some companies feature replaceable parts if there is a baffle strike or damage but without having to get the entire can, nor going through the whole suppressor paperwork.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

@@argg.x in those cases the manufacturer is allowed to swap them out on a 1:1 basis. Having extra baffles is a no-go, which also means selling extra is a no-go as well. The AFT also went back and forth on wether a wipe was able to be serviced by the owner, they settled on 'you can replace it yourself, but you cant have extras'. It doesn't make sense as baffles are just useless bits of metal without a tube to contain them, but we all know the ATF is mechanically illiterate and following the rules of people who were even more mechanically illiterate 90 years ago. And of course I need to add: I dont agree with the laws, I'm just telling you what the ATF thinks about them. I think silencers should be bordering on (but not actually) mandatory (because I hate mandates), I hate the stupid way theyre regulated.

[@argg.x]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I see, I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the explanation. Fuck the ATF

[@HB-kp6rl]

Suppressed shooting is very civilized

[@newengland8126]

Mr Congressman, don't you care about my dog's hearing?

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

"Your dog cant go deaf if it's dead"-ATF agent

[@Manco65]

Hah! I got it Suppressors are hearing protection for animals. Let's get the PETA crowd in on our side here in the USA! Pet Hearing Protection Act! 😉

[@joshm557]

It's funny how they see $600-$700.00 as expensive. Over there tho they see cans as normal and even polite. Here we have the availability of getting guns easier, but the suppressors are much more of a process. I will say the only advantage to the process we have is the quality of the cans. Someone is not going to want to spend $700.00 plus the tax on a can that sucks. There is a push to make quality and quiet cans because of how the market is. Cool design. It would be neat to see them stateside.

[@BasementOps]

Is because supressor are made to be wear in items and cheap... longevity was a US market thing since we have the NFA and the headaches to get one. In Europe it is a courtesy thing and it would be any different than to say buy hearing protection...

[@Kesssuli]

Cheaper side of aluminium cans in europe are made for bolt actions so those are made lighter and maybe bit less durable by design for average hunter so he can enjoy his hobby and make it less painfull for his buddies and dog. Cans meant for semi/full-auto otherhand are more expensive for reason and flow through design is even more because more complex system than solid baffles in traditional supressor.

[@PureCountryof91]

If I could get one in the states... Ooh yes

[@CHMichael]

Always wonder why no one is utilizing the tesla valve fundamentals. Once they let you have a gun you have already jumped through way more hoops than an American owning a full auto.

[@lieutenantcoloneltanyavond8273]

Probably because it's a lot of backpreassure for little to no gain.

[@Paelorian]

​@@lieutenantcoloneltanyavond8273 If the back of the action remains closed, as on any manual-action (bolt-action, etc.), then the more backpressure the better. The gas is only released through the suppressor, and the more slowly it is released, the better. Less of a spiking pressure wave to hear as loud sound. Obviously back pressure id a concern on any autoloading firearm that cycles when there is still gas pressure in the barrel. But a classic Tesla valve isn't ideal because of the cylindrical shape of a firearm suppressor. But modern suppressors are designed with such fluid dynamics principles in mind. It's all about retarding the release of gas as much as possible, and for autoloaders directing the release of gas at the front and away from the action. With the increased popularity of suppressors, maybe we'll see suppressed actions where the ejection port is suppressed.

[@opensourceai8357]

Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz come to the states Silent Steel!!!

[@doejohn8674]

Well, for Germany, it's only hunters that can buy cans, sports-shooters can't.

[@MikeA817]

imagine a United States where suppressors are treated like courtesy accessories rather than scary devices. Of all gun regulations, suppressor restrictions are the dumbest. I'd be okay with just running a 4473/NICS background check if it meant walking out the store/FFL with the can I just dropped $600-2000 on that same day.

[@dansihvonen8218]

When it takes time, dedication and money to legally get a gun the accessories doesn't have to be heavily regulated.

[@ktmistdiegang7881]

Timo bester Mann 👍🏼

[@proZach380]

This guy just dropped the perfect reason to take silencers off the NFA: protecting the hearing of dogs! Fido can't wear earpro

[@chasewalden3644]

Neat

[@safeline6745]

Cool shit man

[@cesardrudi8238]

❤

[@albertptran]

I wish the Springfield Armory voice and ads would go away

[@sfcablecar]

Timmay!!!

[@joostprins3381]

It’s damned that silencers aren’t allowed in the Netherlands. But, and here comes the Dutch way, on air guns they are allowed. 😂

[@matthewconnor5483]

Be lucky to get a good suppressor for $600 here in the US.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

YHM exists

[@BasementOps]

This design of modularity won't work here in the US because of the classification of "supressor parts" and the brain dead NFA...in theory this is the next step forward in the supressor world but the manufacturers are held up by arbitrary rules and regulations.

[@jacksin3323]

Expensive is like 6-7k.

[@morecarstuff]

he said $800 expensive, im crying in Rugged and dumb ATF wait times.

[@notyoaveragejosay1577]

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[@Hojjiifp]

Great...US is so behind with suppressors regulations...

[@meccastreisand2722]

/me looks at my Ase Utra suppressors and thinks, "I'll pass."

[@Edmondson_Avenue]

SILENCERS 🤫🌬🗣👤👥

[@Blackpowderdad]

We like to brag about our “freedoms” but we are actually just prisoners who have been given an hour extra of yard time! Lol

[@dansihvonen8218]

You are just customers who have been indoctrinated that you are unsafe (even irresponsible!) without guns.

[@mattiaprinces2766]

I live in Italy, no suppressor here. It is illegal for a citizen to own one

[@lovrop]

come to your neighbours to slovenia, buy one, take it home 😉

[@ilikegearsofwar3]

The suppressor market is still kind of a circle jerk and somewhat irrelevant in the us just because of the dumb laws and the pain in the butt to get them. Still very niche, i own one and will probably never go through that process again.

[@aarona8203]

I'm surprised Europe is better about suppressors than the US gesh

[@VR-vv2qe]

But in Europe thats expensive.. cause as he said ppl just go buy a new one when ever than want . Vs the communist unconstitutional NFA we have here

[@yourlocaltoad5102]

Nah, it’s still not expensive here in europe. Some people will buy those super cheap 160€ cans for .22lr and .223, but those are mostly seen as cheap cans to get started with. They also aren’t very robust and won’t last very long if you use them with 223. Hunters and sports shooters (in countries where they can buy suppressors) will usually go for better ones which are in the 500-700€ price range and hunters who are very dedicated to suppression will often buy cans which are priced at well over 1000 euros. And the NFA sucks, but it still has advantages over what we have here in Europe. Here suppressors are usually limited to certain groups (hunters, licensed gun owners, etc) and full auto guns, grenade launchers, etc are completely banned. The idea of anyone being allowed to buy these things after paying a 200€ tax stamp is completely utopian to us.

[@T_bone]

Frecken Ferking Hoff. Making tubes better.

[@am-reconvlogchannel7278]

James face every time he is reminded that countries that aren’t as free as us somehow has less restrictions on guns

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

They don't.

[@am-reconvlogchannel7278]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz most countries don’t require to register or even go through a background to buy a can but here in the USA you do is my point

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

@@am-reconvlogchannel7278 you said on guns. I can walk into a store with money and walk out with a gun within an hour.

[@ericallaire8677]

So dangerous here in O canada...10 year prison sentence for using commun sens...