High IQ Moments in Rugby

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[@headintheclouds6935]

Fun fact: despite Italy pantsing England with that tactic - England voted against changing that law

[@philipglover3295]

Which ended up causing them a victory over the All Blacks that autumn as Sam Underhill scored after Courtney Lawes went offside at a ruck so Italy’s tactic along with Eddie Jones saying that wasn’t rugby mate in his interview despite a 35-17 England win meant the All Blacks won at Twickeham But that lead to Ireland beating the All Blacks for the first time in Dublin the week after so I can’t complain

[@jondavies1062]

England won the game , just got bamboozled in the 1st half

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@philipglover3295 "despite a 35-17 England win meant the All Blacks won at Twickeham" In your eyes an England win means the ABs won?

[@philipglover3295]

@@Matt_Alaric Yes because of his interview afterwards where Eddie Jones said that the Italian tactic of not committing to rucks wasn’t Rugby despite England winning 35-17 This lead to a rule change on the offside rule at rucks meaning that Courtney Lawes being offside leading to Sam Underhill’s try against the All Blacks that would have been allowed prior to the rule change meant that Jone’s rant caused an All Black win at Twickenham that Autumn

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

@@Matt_Alaric England beat Italy 35-17, ABs won at Twickenham. Two different games!

[@owentaylor5622]

the high iq moment in the game at 8:14 was getting away with that forward pass

[@archiebobo]

Can we talk about how accurate that drop kick from Beauden was at the start? And straight from a pass? Crazy

[@jackm2939]

The Richie M'ounga one is chaos

[@iffracem]

@0:15 That wasn't high IQ, that was a brain fart from the ref. He had previously just told the England captain to go talk to his team, and called time off. So the entire England team was huddled around the captain, doing as the ref asked, he then called time on without allowing the England side to get into position, but allowed the kicker to take the kick straight away.

[@branominal8564]

Half the opposing team still in the middle of the pitch drinking water? Sure, you can take the penalty now

[@brandoncharlton26]

Rugby league fan here, would be more into union if it was more available but one thing I like about this video is how everyone respects the referees decision. In rugby league everyone complains about the smallest of things that goes against them from officials and it ruins the game in my opinion. big respect to the sport that shows big respect to its officials.

[@klikitzsmith8416]

Hes called, sir in league hes called a rainbow of colourful words

[@kinghiccup]

2:36 if you've ever seen an "own try" i think this is it 😂

[@NotThatOneThisOne]

I remember Brett Davey putting a dead ball on his toes, making sure the assistant ref was watching, then running through and getting a try.

[@byDISMAL]

Nice profile picture mate. Saw em live last year 👍

[@MattPageUK]

Back in the day I scored one like the one at 2:35. Ball went over the try line at a ruck and i popped round the back and put my hand on it. One of the tries of mine I'm most proud of.

[@finn4012]

I absolutely loved it when Italy did that loophole thing with the ruck not being formed. Shame they banned that

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

It was a great tactic but it was also really inconsistently reffed. Then when Haskell and Hartley asked for clarification Poite waved them away.

[@Hhhh-cd2kf]

I know good fun that that rule

[@oscarself2911]

How is it a shame that’s hardly rugby. That would make every game so boring you’d be erasing a key facet if the game that being Ruck time making it less competitive

[@gprugby]

And me. Some people were so shocked and appalled by it but I think any intelligence to find a way around a rule to get an edge should be applauded!

[@rhysjones9870]

Shame on England not realising all they had to do was pick and drive for easy yards to counteract it, Italians werent allowed to be within a meter of the tackle area but could obstruct the passing lane 😅 honestly one of Eddies weak points as a coach, forgets something so simple because he is busy trying to innovate other areas of the game

[@vonteflon]

Captain’s reaction at 4:30 😂😂😂

[@wrightoff]

7:45 I have f*cked up but instead of admitting my mistake I’ll threaten you. Referee ranking 1/10.

[@GiraffeFeatures]

00:25 that isn’t high IQ, that’s just piss poor refereeing, he’d asked England to go and have a chat and then played on when they were busy having said chat.

[@WalkingCWild]

bro don't even. He told them to get a wriggle on and said be quick. Many english players had already spread out. Fantastic refereeing, shit game management. happened later in the game too with kieran hardy's tap and go

[@kye4216]

@@WalkingCWild he told him to have a talk with his players. Even if he wasn’t happy with how long they were talking he should still not blow the whistle while one team is clearly not ready.

[@yann664]

@@kye4216 Just look at the ref's face. Bigger clearly asks him if he can take the kick and you see on his face as he realises what Bigger wants to do, then he gives a little smile, puts his hand up and blows his whistle. Not right - but I don't blame Bigger at all.

[@ricebum8808]

You're right, it is VERY high IQ

[@branominal8564]

@@yann664 no one is blaming Biggar, it is absolutely on the referee

[@FlashMeterRed]

I will have to take the word of the author that these are high IQ in almost every instance, although I vaguely recall the England-Italy one being a news story. So weird how movement within the the technical rules that keep outsider spectators so confused can be so revered by spectators within the sport. As in, from an outside perspective I can't even glean what clever thing must be happening most of the time. And I used to play Rugby World Cup 95!!! 😆

[@WildlifeObsessed]

26 secs marked one of the lowest points in Rugby - ethics, integrity and sportsmanship were thrown in the bin.

[@bipolarparadise2766]

I know tbis video is a year old but im convinced henry knocks that on for Ulster before grounding

[@Stellaartois89]

Massive forward pass on the Carlos Spencer over the head kick

[@1unsung971]

Apparently NOT

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@1unsung971 It clearly was.

[@1unsung971]

@@Matt_Alaric Apparently not.

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@1unsung971 Clearly was.

[@aidieslater8351]

Yeah a mile forward, but we never saw the try being awarded so perhaps it was scratched off

[@Matt_Alaric]

6:35 Between reacting like this and punching his team mate in the face during a friendly, Brits really had an anger issue on the pitch.

[@matthew3078]

High IQ from Dan Biggar, low IQ from the officials to let that happen

[@lucagiancola2835]

I think actually it ended up being all englands fault? As the time between them breaking apart from the huddle to the kick going in was slightly longer than average. Wales had done their homework and seen that England were slow to reset at penalties, so the officials were fine and it was England’s sloppiness that lead to the score. Squidges video on it showed that in full for more details

[@bejaysus7388]

@@lucagiancola2835 The ref gave England a warning about penalty count, Farrell asked for time to speak to his teammates & the ref said yes. England were talking & the ref blew the whistle & said time on, it was a pathetic call, terrible officiating.

[@matthew3078]

@@lucagiancola2835 except that the official body representing referees admitted he got it wrong

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Watch Squidge's video, the officials were spot on, it was just awful from England

[@matthew3078]

@@saoirsedeltufo7436 lol who do I trust, the referees' union whose job it is to actually referee games, or some KZbinr

[@nickthefox72]

Love this video

[@charlottescott7150]

brilliant

[@RTalalemotu]

1:28 the try zone💀

[@TomasPartelius]

Number 9 knew he better let go of our enforcer hair.. he knew the consequences from the eben beale drama

[@durden8122]

What's high IQ about the second clip? Like having kick off before the other team comes out the changing room

[@EdwardsMike]

As an England fan, I hated Italy being so clever at the time. Looking back on it, I can only admire their intelligence!

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

I thought a kickoff had to travel 10 metres before touching the ground? There were at least 2 clips here where the ball was bobbling on the ground before the 10m line.

[@ruckus2702]

Has to go 10 before a player from the side kicking can touch it. Not 100% sure but the team receiving the kick can play the ball even if it doesn't go 10m

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

@@ruckus2702 that is true but I thought it had to reach the 10 metre line before touching the ground. in both clips it was the kicking team that retrieved the ball. Edit: I’ve just looked on world rugbys website and it only says the ball must reach the 10m line so I guess that law got changed.

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@philsswweightlossdiary2944 no that’s always been the rule, it only has to travel 10 metres, you could always grubber it like that

[@aidieslater8351]

@@philsswweightlossdiary2944 I remember watching teams do this occasionally in the 90's so if it did change it wasn't anytime soon

[@m9morgan428]

@6:00 are Argentina able to do that I understand the line out is over cause crossed the 15m line but they already threw a jumper in the air. Can someone help with that?

[@joelcain7243]

I'm Welsh/English and even I know that the eng Vs Wales second clip was not clever. The ref was in the wrong he didn't let England have any chance to realign themselves, and the call wasn't right.

[@alexblackcap]

the quick throw in to Liam Williams is miles forward

[@svresh]

3:04 can someone explain why he’s allowed to do this? To my understanding is it because the his team hasn’t contested the maul so the offside lines haven’t formed?

[@aidieslater8351]

Absolutly. If the other team doesn't engage in the attempted maul the the maul is never formed, meaning there are isn't an offide line.

[@svresh]

@@aidieslater8351 thanks man!

[@alexblackcap]

@@aidieslater8351 I don't understand though, how does this differ from 1:58? If the maul is never formed and the ball never went 15 then isn't the lineout technically still live, so the lineout offside line is applicable?

[@Joe-po8rx]

So. The line out penalty from Munster v Dragons. Dragons didn't challenge for the lineout. Munster came down and set themselves up. Because they don't move... and Dragons did, its a penalty? Why?

[@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart]

Sneaky beaky like IQ

[@ghostguin1398]

Here for te college hat on Beuden barret

[@ghostguin1398]

Graduation hat I meant

[@edemoi3817]

I can not imagine a better sport.

[@multipletanksyndrome]

I feel like the end goal areas need to be longer.

[@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart]

8:05 try should stand because tricking the ref isn’t technically illegal, he tapped it on his own foot so technically it’s still in play this should be a try

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Nah, whistle had already gone. If the whistle hadn't gone then yes, but unfortunately the ref made the wrong call and blew the whistle

[@Donal2319]

It's not a great move because you have to fool the opposition but yet have the referee clearly see that you haven't dotted it down. A TMO can't help you.

[@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart]

Everything can be over turned in a rugby game, especially if a try takes place, you ever seen a ref add 10 metres to a penalty? The same thing applies here.

[@kirstenflower8937]

Difference is that all the opposition stopped after the whistle has blown, so you can’t overturn it. The whistle is final in this instance otherwise there’s no credibility.

[@alexblackcap]

nah I hate that kind of thing. He's made it look like he's grounded it, everyone is taking him at his word. It's like catching a ball in the 22 and yelling "MART" then playing on and claiming you never marked the ball because you said "Mart" not "Mark".

[@godisbollocks]

0:33 One of the greatest moments of individual brilliance I've ever seen.

[@cameroneinchcomb3967]

i don't understand the italy/eng game. if the italians are 'standing off' the ruck so it isn't formed then why was there italians in the ruck not rolling away? which would mean there's a ruck formed because italians are in the ruck??

[@user-nm7-RedBreeze]

ラグビーのルールは非常に難解だが、勉強すればプレイの幅が広がるね

[@alakorz3399]

The 2nd clip wasn't a high IQ moment. The referee made a bad call on letting Wales kick. He is supposed to let the other team setup first before he let's them kick. The ref got loads of backlash from it as it costed England the win. Nigel Owens even agreed the decision to play on was wrong

[@AndrewDavidForde]

There's nothing in the law book that says the team has to set up before a penalty is taken. Furthermore, the team talk is very clearly over, the players on the left wing are set, whereas the players on the right are lazy in getting there. That laziness was further demonstrated in that same game by Kieran Hardy's quick tap try. To say it cost England the win is just not true - Wales won the game by 16 points.

[@shuntacheong6836]

@@AndrewDavidForde What about the zammit try as well? that's two controversial tries in the first half alone.

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@AndrewDavidForde stop it, clearly wrong call, ref allowed England captain to talk to his players after getting a warning, and then calls the penalty, the second after they break huddle.

[@Konst_Abel]

The high IQ moment was Biggar checking with the ref that time was back on before playing quickly. The fact that he had the insight and forethought to see England lazily walking about after the team talk and checking with the ref to make sure the play is good. You guys are clearly just biased England fans.

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@Konst_Abel I’m South African just like you. Call was shocking.

[@rogeurroger7119]

Can't stretch that to 10 minutes...

[@SharpeXHD]

Is 1:09 legal? Is also 1:36 legal?

[@kekkuzzo75]

Italians teach rugby rules to English players 😂😂

[@gvz2899]

2:58 is really stupid. Rugby has allways been built on sense. In this situation, it should be a carried back scrum 5m, same as when you dot down yourself behind your own line.

[@donaldtaylor724]

Show me a time stamp where the ball gets dotted down by the scrum half and you’d be right

[@tosgu-3250]

4:10と4:59はなぜこのプレーが許されているか誰か教えてください。 なぜハンドとオフサイドではないのですか？

[@vonteflon]

Once the ball is in the in-goal area (on or past the try line), there is no offside.

[@tosgu-3250]

@@vonteflon i didn’t know that. thank you so much😄

[@Neilhuny]

I have no idea why the ref called that ball out of the ruck at 6:39. Bad decision. Well used by the No 4

[@odond36]

French ref is heard saying "no binding (with the shoulder)" which makes the defender not part of the ruck hence the ball was out. This one I'm ok with seeing it means defence has to commit at least a bit to the ruck and not be lazy

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Number 3 isn't bound to the ruck, therefore ball is out

[@user-qc9lr1bx5t]

1:13 what？

[@animekawaiichan9399]

🤦🏾‍♂️8:21 FORWARD PASS!

[@ichiwo1526]

5:34 the biggest load of BS I've ever seen. Doesn't get any more offside than that.

[@AndrewDavidForde]

There was no ruck so he was onside

[@argyledart85]

the first welsh try absolute BS wasn't high IQ was poor refereeing

[@toto1999]

Is there a long history of inbreeding in your family that explains your monumental ignorance?

[@rh5466]

I've decided that rugby's stupid now. Dominated by nutty rules, line-defenses, unhuman players, and over-exposure.

[@woodybenjam]

The second clip is a joke right? The ref told one team captain to go have a word with his players, and then told the other side team player that time was back on. Disgraceful. LOW IQ from the ref.

[@AndrewDavidForde]

Great thinking from Dan Biggar, saw that one side of the defence was set whilst the wingers on the other side were lazy getting there - took the opportunity well. High IQ.

[@woodybenjam]

@@AndrewDavidForde Hahhahah yeah ok. keep telling yourself that.

[@AndrewDavidForde]

@@woodybenjam Thank You!

[@JM19649]

The commentary at 6:15 annoys me about rugby, it happens allot.. He knew what he was doing.. pen 100% justified.. it's like the penalty for not rolling why trapped usually followed by "not much he could have done there"

[@jameswyatt4443]

No, Britz was low enough for a pass to go over him, the 9 clearly passes incredibly low to hit him intentionally.

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

The only high IQ move in rugby is deciding to do literally anything else in the world other than rugby.

[@syslash2617]

Lol the 0:21 wasn’t high iq it was just bad refereeing

[@barryoffeastenders]

The England defence on the right of the screen were all ready. It was the fault of Anthony Watson and others casually walking back from the huddle. Also, George Ford decided to call a huddle under the posts while Farrell was with the ref. Bad move.

[@syslash2617]

@@barryoffeastenders if you look closely their defence isnt fully set they are still running across. The ref needs to allow them to set

[@barryoffeastenders]

@@syslash2617 The ref doesn't have to wait for them, he just has to give them ample time, which he did and is how the left wing was ready. The right wing are just ambling back. Watch Squidge rugby's video on that match. Breaks that moment down really clearly

[@jonnybaynham1689]

@@barryoffeastenders Squidge, the Welshman, breaks that moment down clearly. Nah perhaps an unbiased view would be better. The ref told Farrell to speak to his players, which is what he gathered them to do. Something similar happened with John Smit and SA against Ireland when ROG took a quick tap and the saffas were filthy about it. The ref was simply appalling that day

[@outerdiamonds9091]

@@jonnybaynham1689 I agree, remember watching the game which had several shit decisions from the ref

[@odond36]

Some of these legalistic ruck strategies just go completely against the spirit of the Sport. Italy's chinanegans while "clever" on paper made them entirely unlikeable and frankly pathetic

[@adrian1689]

It really endeared them to me. Using clever tactics to more effectively compete with a team who, on paper, has you beat.

[@odond36]

@@adrian1689 i think most tactics are fair game, but this looked nothing like rugby to me and as much as i want England to lose, that just wasn't worth it

[@darraghtormey1500]

Can't agree with that statement. If anything it endeared them to pretty much every rugby nation in the world - except England obviously. People love an underdog causing disruption when punching well above their weight.

[@trimad6128]

@@darraghtormey1500 no mate just pathetic like your comment

[@darraghtormey1500]

@@trimad6128 Try making sense .

[@casperselka671]

the first video was blatant terrible refereeing. One of the worst reffed games ive ever watched and that decision could only be explained by severe incompetency or cheating. You cant tell a team to go have a chat with all the players then when they do that say the other team can have a free try with no prior warning. Pathetic.

[@1unsung971]

High IQ Moments in Rugby is a lazy and mistaken title for this sort of banal video. IQ has very little to do with athletic prowess. Intuition and a range of other Intelligences are at play. The implication of the title is insulting; that most of the time players are unintelligent/stupid., which they demonstrably not. I suspect that Andrew Forde (clearly a lover of Rugby) is projecting his ignorance onto players; not a sound premise for any kind of commentary. Embarrassing for him.

[@hencoharmse8757]

I have a feeling you don't get invited out much.

[@AndrewDavidForde]

Are you okay?

[@x-latetv-x6816]

Buddy I recommend a therapist

[@1unsung971]

@@AndrewDavidForde Really good thanks. How about yourself?

[@thomasclark6642]

What a nonce

[@lerouxrenison9642]

But non of it in the WC 2023.