HIGH MILEAGE Motor Oil - Is It Actually DIFFERENT?

How much of what's on the label is marketing versus science? We analyzed a bottle of conventional 5W-30 Pennzoil, High Mileage 5W-30 Pennzoil, and Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 Synthetic to find the differences. Watch as Certified Lubrication Specialist, Lake Speed Jr, reveals the findings. The results are quite interesting...
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[@thomasward4505]

A lot of this went over my head, maybe a chart at the very end to see the differences back to back on the three oils might have been helpful

[@mrtdiver]

I concur. maybe more charts with comparisons to other oils. charts, graphs, etc.

[@auntbarbara5576]

or at least a nice Venn Diagram. -Ktoes Harris

[@masoncushnie5494]

its really simple tho lol

[@deanb3033]

I agree with all the above, the bottom line is ???

[@Roboticgladiator]

Definitely needs a chart summary. Too much talk. More charts.

[@jamescaron6465]

I graduated in 1984 with a degree in Chemistry. I absolutely love stuff like this. Thanks for taking the time to produce these vids.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@thegeneraljoe67]

Thanx for your work. Can you tell everyone what brand & type oil you personally use in your vehicles please?​@@themotoroilgeek

[@themotoroilgeek]

@@thegeneraljoe67 I don't have a specific brand that I use. Instead, the application dictates which chemistry I use and then I pick the brand I trust to deliver that chemistry. I also test different products in my daily driver via used oil analysis. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40 is what's in it now.

[@Physics072]

I graduated undergrad with Degree in physics minor in bio and chemistry and I just like but don't love this. Thanks for taking the time to produce these videos even though I only like not love them.

[@garretjohnson764]

@@themotoroilgeekrecommendation for a 2000 Toro Groundsmaster 325-D (Mitsubishi diesel engine) with over 3,000 hours? I recently took on this mower and am in the process of changing the fluids. The engine oil had 250hrs on it & I’m unsure of age, but I would guess 5 years? The oil was BLACK. Currently have gone through 3 engine oil changes in about 1-hour of run time using Penzoil conventional 10w-30 oil and it’s finally starting to lighten-up in color. I live in MN & mow 4-8hrs/wk for roughly 26 weeks annually. I typically change my oil based on OE recommendation or when it appears to be getting dirty (darker golden brown).

[@ryszardbyczyk6938]

In the transportation business, mainly as a mechanic, for almost 46 years, and I never thought I would find motor oil so interesting. Thanks for another great video!

[@toddervin6479]

I started using Pennzoil full synthetic platinum after watching Project Farm videos on the best oils. This confirms his findings.

[@TGears314]

But his results differ based on the viscosity😬😬😬

[@toddervin6479]

@@TGears314 such as?

[@TheScrubmuffin69]

​@@TGears314 no shit

[@jason200912]

What about pennzoil ultra platinum vs pennzoil high mileage vs pennzoil plat

[@toddervin6479]

@jason200912 I use the platinum mileage on my car & just platinum on my wife's. I did use Royal Purple for years and got over 300k on my G6. I then had a mechanic friend tell me they changed their formula and it wasn't as good. He recommended Amsoil and I used that for a few years without complaint. Then Project Farm turned me onto the Pennzoil products with his comparison of Amsoil and Pennzoil. They are similar, but Pennzoil is cheaper. This is just my opinion

[@lklpalka]

Good advice here, very thorough breakdown! I was very young in 1963 but I remember my dad got a tutorial from the local Ford dealer as he was handed the keys to the baby blue Country Squire. Quick first oil change, vary highway speeds, don't race rpms especially when cold, 'baby' it from a stop. (trans care was mentioned too) After 3,000 miles he could relax but still change every 3 to 3,500 miles. The engine was a 260 v8 I remember from the cool front fender logo. Great car that served for many years until Pennsylvania road salt finally ate the body and wood grain.

[@DeepRacer-zr4yp]

Salt is really a killer man I hate it.... So many good vehicles go to waste it's just sad :(

[@kirstenspencer3630]

Yes all good advice. That fake woodgrain suffers from road salt...

[@mallardhunterhunter8588]

Fluid Flim really helps prevent salt corruption!

[@philipansell]

Your Dad was on to it. Those rules still apply.

[@kriswingert1662]

I live in PA as well. Road salt is a KILLER!

[@davea5113]

I'm an average gear head and have tried to watch/listen to other reports on the subject, almost fell asleep a few times. You my friend, I could listen to you for hours on how to tie shoe laces, great video, been using Platinum 5w30 in everything for a long time. Thanx for quantifying my choice.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@Mark-rw3kw]

Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is worth the extra cost over regular Pennzoil Platinum, especially when purchased at places like Walmart where the difference in price is not that much. Mobil 1 EP is also a very good oil, definitely better than regular Mobil 1.

[@davidmccarstle7722]

Great Video I work for SHELL and the site I'm based out of is the largest ALPHA OLEFIN Producer in the world so some amount of what we produce ends up in Motor Oils. I also worked at the GTL Plant in Qutar and it was a very impressive place. The size of the Rotating Equipment is quite impressive especially in the Oxygen Unit, since the front end of the conversion requires tremendous amounts of oxygen. Looking forward to more videos.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@bobirving6052]

Wow, thanks Lake Speed Jr!!! That was better than a college class and the info kept coming, firing on every cylinder! I appreciate you hammering the point about “don’t need high TBN!”

[@btw985]

I’m only 5 minutes in and already love your TBN/SP opinion. First I’ve heard someone explain it like that instead of poo-pooing the new oils.

[@DavidTMSN]

The reason people are questioning the new spec is because not all of the brands who manufacture GF-6/SP certified oil do a good job plain and simple. They just don't, and Pennzoil isn't who I'm referring to. Some of the others just do not have adequate additive packages. A lot SN/SN+ oil were perfectly fine but from my understanding the push for the new spec was based not on concern for longevity of the engine. Fuel economy was a big factor. Maybe I'm wrong I don't know.

[@KaLeB_]

​@@DavidTMSNi first thought that too, but he has videos showing why these new low viscosidade oils work different....

[@naruttaanime9471]

So happy you teach us to learn chemistry without being afraid. I actually learned a lot. I wish all the science teachers could warch and learn too.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@tonycolca2241]

I remember when detergent motor oil came out. Yes i am old. I remember people saying that stuff has additives and it will ruin your engine. From a man thatvworked on engines inthe late 50s and early 60s oil today is so much better today but also the engines are so much better

[@cwnarron72]

I'd like to see a Valvoline 3 oil comparison like this. Very informative. Thank you!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@paulhaney6449]

Yes please do a valvoline breakdown

[@vermontvermont9292]

​@@themotoroilgeek please review the new valvoline restore and protect.

[@themotoroilgeek]

@@vermontvermont9292 Coming soon!

[@vermontvermont9292]

@@themotoroilgeek yes! I'm currently running it now. 487 miles so far on it. Btw, what would YOU use for a 1.5L direct injection turbocharged engine? There's so many choices, I had been running castrol edge 0w20 full synthetic. I wanted to switch it up though. Just curious on your thoughts.

[@jjgordanier]

Really appreciate your analysis breakdowns. Would like to see a Valvoline comparison sometime. I have used that brand for years, but after checking out this Pennzoil video I’m probably going to try it my next oil change.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion!

[@laurapalmerTDGE]

@@themotoroilgeek - I'm with ^. Thank you for taking the time to clarify. My passion for machines and their intricate workings is something I've cherished since I was young, carrying that Honda HR217. Whether it's my choice in top-grade oils for my machines or diving into the nitty-gritty of TBN values, I strive to know and provide the best. Living in Belgium has only reinforced my appreciation for high standards and quality. I'm always eager to expand my knowledge, and I'm grateful for this clear explanation. Here's to always learning and prioritizing quality in all we do! I'm the kinda guy that puts Amso 10w30 SS Diesel in his GCV530 V-twin engine. or XL Boosted. And ZROD in in his Dolmar blowers. Rowe - hightec synth rs sae 5w-40 is next is next on the menu. Anyway. Thanks!

[@jonathanscherer8567]

@@themotoroilgeek Could you test Mobil 1 High Mileage full synthetic while you're at it? I'm curious how these stack up against one another. I've used M1 for years now, and I've wondered if it's worth the extra expense.

[@brucebinde5303]

Thank you, people don't realize how lubricants make such a longevity difference. Even important in the days of hand cranked bulk dispensers into tin capped glass bottles.

[@btbd2785]

This is why I hate the oil standards, they make changes and update certain specs but then they don't bother making the proper adjustments on things like TBN?? Another great informative video!

[@rjaybruhh]

*_I noticed my 97 Honda Civic rear main seal dosent leak as much ever since I switched from cheap conventional 5w-30 oil to fully synthetic high mileage penzoil 5w-30. I can say it actually works!_*

[@paularc1899]

Use AT-205

[@ronfazer2423]

@@paularc1899 Yes, but the price of At-205 has risen 50% in 3 years.

[@ronfazer2423]

I use Hi-Mileage and also bump up to 10w-30 during the summer months (April -Oct). 90% of my drips are gone! When I go back to 5W Hi-mileage in the winter , I hope it stays just as dry.

[@Oofsmageroo]

I had seal leaks stop completely with pp hm oil. A car that was dripping down the pan to no longer dripping the next change. Great for beaters

[@rm5902]

The synthetic causes the seals to expand in conventional engines.

[@stevestarr6395]

Thanks for the great analysis and info on Pennzoil. Mobil 1 used to be my go to oil for years but now Pennzoil Platinum is and have noticed a big difference in engine performance and condition at OCI!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing!

[@oldgringo66]

Just switched to Pennzoil ultra premium high mileage 5w30. 2013 Hyundai 2 liter 120k miles. Mpg increased by 2 in town and 3 highway. Was running syn 5w30 by Walmart.

[@stevestarr6395]

@@oldgringo66 Hands down the best oil I’ve ever used!!

[@nicholaspetre1]

Just FYI Project Farm made a test of all main Pennzoil Oils and according to their analysis Platinum demonstrated worse performance in comparison with Full Synthetic. Ultra Platinum took the 1sr place. Check this one as you may find it interesting: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/emTUd5l3etVsd7c

[@Mark-rw3kw]

Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and Mobil 1 EP are worth the few extra dollars (per 5-quart jug). If you really want a quality oil at a reasonable price, these are the two that should be compared, instead of regular Pennzoil Platinum or regular Mobil 1.

[@robertos4172]

Looking forward to your observations after running the Synthetic in your Porsche. Always interesting videos, THANKS!

[@Davido50]

Pennzoils new SP /GF-6 rated synthetic blend & full synthetic engine oils are best overall "off the shelf" oils you can buy today. Period. There use of GTL base stock is cleaner & more pure than refined mineral oil base stocks in all OTHER premium oils such as Mobil1, Castrol Edge etc. I've used Pennzoil Platinum / Ultra Platinum in my newer GTDI Ecoboost F150 trucks w/ excellent results. Used oil analysis by Blackstone Labs showed low wear metals present always/overall outstanding engine cond @ 168k mis on my '18 F150 Lariat FX4. Thus im running Pennzoil Platinum in my '22 F150 XLT Tremor w/ OEM Motorcraft filters. -NY

[@sixpest]

Might be off topic but I gotta agree Penz is the best; I just bought my truck a while back, dark brown oil My first mpg was around 16, 17 on real good days and after their high millage oil. I was consistently and easily pulling off 19 mpg and 18 Never dipped under 18 until I drove really sporty!

[@nordicpride9708]

You can’t use a UOA to show any oil being superior to another wear wise. You could run mobil 1 vs Pennzoil synthetic side by side on chassis dynos and there would be virtually zero difference in wear between them. It’s actually been done in taxis (white papers are available online). When you get into synthetics (GTL, PAO, polyol ester, hydro cracked group III… there just isn’t any huge advantage one oil base over another unless you are in EXTREME cold or you need a long OCI… just the facts. You can like Pennzoil all day long and it’s a great product. But saying it’s the best oil….theres no such thing

[@jamesyarbrough4777]

mobil buys gtl base stocks from sopus now. tell us more how mobil isnt as good

[@michaelcinaz]

I can tell you from experience, these are all very good quality oils. The first 75,000 miles, almost every single oil change was Pennzoil 5W-30 conventional. After that I started using Pennzoil 5W-30 high mileage oil. Normally use a Bosch premium oil filter or other premium filter. I’ve never tried the fully synthetic. I change my oil every 4000 - 5000 miles. I have a 2007 Toyota Tacoma 4.0 V6 with 145,000 miles that I bought brand new, and it still runs like brand new. It’s very easy changing the oil myself.

[@rdallas81]

I have a 04 Dodge Ram Hemi with 300,000 on it. Runs like brand new.

[@HubG950]

@@rdallas81 I have a 2003 Corolla with 395,000 and it still drive like brand new.

[@Life_42]

Change every 3000

[@letmethinkv]

​@@HubG950I have 2005 corolla with 330000....on supertech conventional 5w30 running like brand new.

[@RS-vd6cs]

New subscriber! My 2003 Avalon runs great on Pennzoil full synthetic-256 k and counting. 5 K change interval! Thanks for all your hard work 🙏👍

[@billarroo1]

Great hearing an expert break down the components of different oils and additives, that even I can understand !!! Great Video, THANKS

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you

[@Raysandfamily]

So every vehicle except one in our little household Fleet uses 5w 30 full synthetic. this helps so much Lake thank you..

[@wilmaharvey4216]

THANK YOU, Son.!! That old saying that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree is true here.! Your an awesome man like your Dad.! I always pulled for your Dad every Sunday.! I liked all the underdogs, and cheered them on against the Big Money teams. Lake Speed, Dave Marcus, Jimmy Means, and the others. There are millions of guys all over the world who are interested, and will be thankful for the time, and hard work, and knowledge you are offering to us.! I first saw you on another channel. The one where you,, and your Dad gave the Grand Tour of his shop, and the old Cars, engines, trophies, and everything else you could possibly think of. I have seen you on the Australians channel, LUBRICATION Explained. I know you will have millions of subscribers worldwide if KZbin's algorithm is ever overcome. Question. ?? Whatever happened to all the WYNN'S PRODUCTS locally for sale in the UNITED STATES.?? I remember when they were available in about any store you could go to.!??? I tried years ago to find them, but only saw them available in other countries.! You take care, and take care of your family, and Dad.!! Tell him his old fans still care about him.!!! THANKS AGAIN, for All the help.! I'm just north of you, to the west of CAMEL CITY.!!! Not far at all.!! I've known Mike Dillon since the 5th grade, and been friends since. We know alot of the same people, and places but for everyone's personal privacy, I leave it at that.!! GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CHANNEL, AND FUTURE.!!! 😉😉😉🙂🙂😁❤🥇🥇🥇🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you for the very kind words.

[@rickgrimes4133]

Please do a Platinum vs Ultra Platinum comparison Please

[@tempura7690]

Please do. when I saw project farms results I was surprised. I heard someone say Platinum= Ultra platinum + Full synthetic.

[@TonyTundra5.7]

They're both base GTL oils, The ultra has a better add pack

[@ChicagoRob2]

@@TonyTundra5.7 Agree, regarding the add pack, as confirmed by my Blackstone test reports.

[@metatronmen2431]

Im not living in a little town and you cant find ultra platinum anywhere.

[@ChicagoRob2]

@@metatronmen2431 Amazon

[@stray4095]

I pretty much have no clue what you were talking about through this entire video. But what it did make me realize is that oil is complicated and that I need to stick to whatever oil the manufacturer recommends and change it often.

[@themotoroilgeek]

LOL, sorry about that, but you did come to the right conclusion.

[@josecenteno9043]

🤣😂👍

[@henrystowe6217]

Very interesting. I just change oil every 5k miles. Of course, i believe these differences will show up over time. With frequent changes i think that time will be will into the future, unless youre driving a Hyundai or a Chrysler

[@bdcochran01]

I am at the same level of comprehension. Fortunately, one doesn't have to know much to be able to function in this world. All one has to do is pay attention to the car servicing, do it earlier than the manual suggests (all the mfg. wants is for the car to do 3 years or 36,000 miles -which is really only two years). Oil changes? I take a factory filter in. I give multiple copies of what is to be examined or lubed (oh, yes, you can lube places under the car although the mfgs. don't say so). The family has had 4 of the same generation of a car model. Three are gone and attained over 250,000 miles each. Mine is the last, 20 years old and running like the first day, brand new. It will outlive me.

[@johnqpublic2949]

Finally Someone I feel I can trust, and with all the knowledge and expertise and REAL WORLD experience to be able to tell the truth!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@ZWortek]

I absolutely love your videos and thank you for making this one. It's really helpful to hear a real expert break things down for consumers like me instead of just judging a product entirely off some random oil analysis (which is still helpful but not complete). If possible I would love to hear your thoughts on Pennzoil Ultra Platinum as that tends to be my first choice for modern performance street engines. I'm also still trying to figure out which 0w-16 oils I prefer since I have a few newer Toyota's in my family. So far Mobil 1 extended performance and Pennzoil Platinum are all I can find, but it seems that Valvoline advanced 0w-16 might be a better option.

[@whlawson5812]

How about you sending a small sample of Toyota's own 0W16 or 0W20 engine for L.S. Jr to do a test in his lab? 🤔🤔👏👏👏

[@ZWortek]

@@whlawson5812 might have to look into, I was thinking of comparing Toyota oem oil with valvoline advanced

[@pacsunzr2]

I learned more in this video then 14 years of following BITOG forum

[@libtards1393]

AMS Oil makes a full synthetic 0w-16 its suspost to be of high quality

[@rileystanek]

I occasionally hang out on BITOG but the the arrogance there is palpable 😄@@pacsunzr2

[@MrFredscrap]

For those watching from Oceania/Australia. Sulfur content in petrol/gasoline in Australia is up to 500% (5 times) higher than US standards, up to 50 ppm (vs 10 PPM in USA), used to be up to 150ppm....

[@BMoris95]

Would you be willing to do a video comparing some of the top-of-the-line full synthetic high mileage motor oils like Pennzoil, Mobil1, Valvoline, and Castrol? I feel like it would benefit a lot of people who own and maintain older vehicles. I have been using Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage on both of my cars that are at or above 200,000mi. I've gone with this based on Project Farms video from a few years ago, but would like to see some more analysis on whether there are better options.

[@WanderingDruid68]

This would be interesting, I have an older model truck, 1992, it has the stock 5.0 liter in it with over 200k miles. I would be interested in knowing if the newer or synthetic oils would be helpful or harmful to an older engine like this that may not have been designed with the newer oils in mind.

[@cesarpenailillo6627]

Probably I commented already. Seen this video like 5 times. Great content as usual. Love the info you provide always on each one of your videos.

[@trolllibtards2604]

In high school during test time, I would of copied off of this cat.

[@themotoroilgeek]

LOL

[@billyjoejimbob56]

I have used Pennzoil products for years now, in five Honda V6 engines. Our 2006 Odyssey went 200K on 5W-20 and never needed additional oil between changes. Have driven my 2013 Accord 142K so far. Also have 2016, '17, and '18 vehicles... all four using recommended 0W-20 full synthetic, changed according to the built in reminder, and none burn any oil. Some of the quick change places try to up-sell the high mileage oil. I see no reason to shift when they all run like new engines on the recommended fill. Great info... keep the great vids coming!

[@eppyz]

Don't forget the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum haha

[@nodnarbz_1327]

For real where’s the top shelf stuff??

[@alejandrotobienne8220]

In the corner of my garage.

[@johnfleming68]

I agree 100% Pennzoil ultra Platinum is one of the best top performing oils on the market

[@jamesvw769]

​@@johnfleming68 Not really.

[@Brian_195]

In my garage and in my truck.

[@frederickwoodard9551]

I learned that even if your oil filler cap calls for 5W-20 you can use 5W-30 especially, if you have oil consumption it will reduce oil consumption with the thicker oil it will slow down the consumption and will increase mpg. 🙂

[@thatairplaneguy]

It’s always been my understanding that high milage oils just have more seal conditioners in it. I’m glad i understood correctly. Now, the big question is what is more cost effective, the high milage oil or an off the shelf additive added to regular oil? Which has more conditioner? The HM oil at 6qt or the additive diluted over 6qts? Then you can deduce the price per qt of the conditioner.

[@aciddiver1978]

The most important thing in a car, is often the hardest to replace for many people. Change it every 5.000 and you are as safe as can be.

[@jonathansherwood5841]

Interesting how two are the same with minor tweaks, and the third one has a lot of differences! 🐺🔧

[@themotoroilgeek]

Yep. This was a fun one.

[@Aprilseahorse]

My experience working at GM dealershis, and also had it explained by GM representatives, that the additives in the High Mileage oils that are meant to stop oil leaks actually swell seals and lead to quickly failure. Even more killing the good seals in a short period of time. I also saw this happen in vehicles being serviced in our shops. Just take care of your vehicle or pay the price later.

[@danold6443]

Just a shame that the oil companies don't put a lot of this information on the bottle or their website. Most people wouldn't care, but some of us nutters do care about this sort of thing! Interested with your comments re Ca in the oil affecting other additives and the whole TBN stuff. I drive a diesel....food for thought on next oil change!

[@katherynscleaning5807]

So I got Mobile one high millage oil and changed the oil after over 200 K in miles then got 5 MPG better in millage. Thanks so much for your tips and results are there. On a Prius V. I am sold!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great to hear!

[@Steven-kc7id]

So you used Mobil 1 high mileage and got 5 mpg more?

[@cwp1alpha]

Some combinations do have their advantages though. I used to have a 2006 Grand Caravan with a slightly abused 3.8L V6 (prior owner). Day one, it was burning oil at a rate of 1-1/2 quarts per 5,000 mile oil change using 5w20. I'm not much into addditives, so i tried Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, even Kendall oil. Even ran some Lucas oil. The magic combo was the Valvoline MaxLife synthetic blend oil, as it reduced my burn rate to less than 1/2 a quart between oil changes. Since then, I've been a strong supporter of Valvoline high mileage motor oils. And yes, the brand of oil filters does aid in the longevity of oils as well. Used to be a Wix user, but saw lots of cut open inspections and saw glue chunks floating around in their canisters from factory. New filters, too. I'm more into either Mobil 1 or NAPA premium filters now, even Motorcraft.

[@themotoroilgeek]

The Valvoline Max Life Blend is an amazing oil. I've seen great results with that oil in many engines.

[@rileyrogers3912]

I believe WIX is the manufacturer of the Napa Gold oil filters, although if memory serves they're better quality than the standard WIX ones. Used to work for a Hyundai dealership and one of the parts guys cut open a Napa and a WIX and the Napa was better constructed

[@IronMike-f8i]

😂😂WIX,, MAKES NAPA ,, ALL NAPA FILTERS!!

[@dedomv11]

Great information. Great learning experience. I do oil analysis at work. I love it.

[@johnmosetti545]

Lake another great video. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.

[@traumajock]

I've been using Pennzoil Platinum in my 2014 Ram 5.7 and 2014 Ford Fusion 1.5 Eco Boost since we bought them. 212K on the Fusion, 185K on the Ram. They both still run great. Looks like I'll switch to the high mileage flavor. I've been going 7500 miles between changes.

[@thinkforyourself5672]

Would love to see a video on oil additives. Ceratec, MOS2, STP Ceramic etc etc. Just your thoughts on if they work at all and if there is ever a time / situation to use them

[@nofascistsonmywatch]

+ LubeGard BioTech, Molygen, RLI, Torco Moly additives, the good ol' boy truckers fave MotorKote, etc.

[@chrischarles9218]

Glad I found your channel. I've been going down the oil rabbit hole and there is lots of disinformation out there.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks, that's why I'm doing this. Trying to get the correct info out there.

[@jasonmajere2165]

I been using valvoline, they were out of the regular high mileage I got the synthetic one. Which seemed to help my oil burning problems greatly. I figure it helped to free up piston rings in my 260,000 mile car.

[@Olds_Pwr]

I had a Cruze that got totaled with over 200,000 miles that required Dexos oil. I used the cheapest oil that I could find on the shelf, mixed brands, viscosities, types, changed it every 10,000 miles and it ran perfect. I am sure this Platinum oil may be better but I think it is an overkill for a daily driver. Loved the video and am subscribing.

[@mplslawnguy3389]

You're not really supposed to change viscosities lol. You put in what is recommended for the engine, nothing else.

[@Olds_Pwr]

@@mplslawnguy3389 Companies spend billions on marketing and the majority of the people fall for it. I myself like to think outside the box and prove it can be done with no negative consequences. Since the Cruze, I now have a G6 and have been following the same routine for years and it gets me to work Monday through Friday.

[@mplslawnguy3389]

@@Olds_Pwr It's not "falling for" something. The engines are specifically designed to use a certain oil. Many modern engines have very narrow oil passages, thus need very light oils. Changing oils was fine on old cars, and people did that, but everything now needs very specific fluids and oils.

[@Olds_Pwr]

​@@mplslawnguy3389 Thank you for your concern on this subject but do you have any thoughts on how I am able to get hundreds of thousands of miles on engines while doing what I have been doing for years?

[@mplslawnguy3389]

@@Olds_Pwr All I’m saying is you’re supposed to use the recommended viscosity. You don’t have to buy the expensive brands, that’s not what I’m saying, but modern engines need very specific viscosities. Either you lucked out or have an older engine with a wider tolerance. Ask any mechanic worth his salt and he’ll tell you to not mess around with viscosity, use what the manual says. It’s also a good idea to find a favorite brand and stick with it.

[@coffeefish]

On your advice, I'm using Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage Full Synthetic in my 06 Duratec 3.0L V6. It has 236,000 miles and it leaks a little bit of oil from everywhere. Maybe the seal conditioners will help with that. I'll be doing my 3rd oil change in about 800 miles. Changing at a 3,000 interval.

[@staciecarverd8136]

This is the sort of information I have been looking for. I've a new vehicle with 2.0L Ecoboost, and before I decide on which oil I want to use for the long haul, I want to learn something about the oils themselves and their differing characteristics and potential benefits over each other. As I am leaning towards a small number of brands, Pennzoil being one of them, this has been really quite helpful in educating myself. Now I need to scour your channel and see if you mention the other brands I'm considering too. BTW: I work in a dealership and can use the OEM grade full synthetic Motorcraft oil, and get it at a discount, but I want to be assured I'm protecting my investment the best way possible, even if it costs me a couple dollars more w/each oil change. And I don't recommend or subscribe to the manufacturers extended oil change intervals as I've seen the good and bad to following that practice. One needs to be honest with the affects of their operating environment and the demands their driving habits on what required maintenance should be followed.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for the comment. We have several other videos on the channel that should be helpful. The key is not picking a brand first. That should be the last choice. Start with the application and work from there. Then choose the brand you trust to deliver that product consistently. Since you have an EcoBoost, the key is getting a product designed for direct injection engines. The Motorcraft is a great oil to start with. Do used oil analysis to establish a baseline and then try a different oil (like the Pennzoil Ultra) to see if it actually reduces wear for your engine.

[@staciecarverd8136]

@@themotoroilgeek My big concern it first matching the recommended specifications, then determining which one might be less prone to promote varnish and reduce wear. I do not plan to exceed 4K intervals, keeping closer to 3-3.5K as my standard. Much of that is based on my environment, living in the north east, then on the style and type of driving I do. Since I'm older now I don't outright run my vehicles hard, but more spirited, nonetheless. Am I wrong in thinking something like the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Castrol Edge full synthetic would be better again varnish production and wear vs. the OEM semi-synthetic oil?

[@themotoroilgeek]

@@staciecarverd8136 i like your line of thinking! Match the specs and then go with a full synthetic. That will reduce varnish formation and handle the turbo heat better. Used oil analysis is the best way to determine which oil provides the best wear protection for your environment and driving style.

[@saulespino2510]

@@themotoroilgeekWhy didn’t you include the Ultra I your review?

[@themotoroilgeek]

@@saulespino2510 we have a different video that covers Ultra vs Platinum

[@9mmARman]

Back in the mid 90's we had a lubrication specialist come into the place I worked. At the time, with the vehicle technology when many people drove pre-fuel injected vehicles (like I still do!), he said that if you change your oil every 3000 miles, like I still do, it really doesn't matter what oil you use. People say I'm wasting money changing my oil and filter every 3000 miles. It works for me, since I'm still driving my '94 Chevy 4x4 with a 350 with 300,000 miles on it that still doesn't burn any oil and I've never done a single repair to the engine. I've had to replace the water pump, radiator and AC compressor once each, and 6 starters, but the engine itself is still original and never repaired in any way.

[@JohnT-j4e]

Do you have any oil leaks? Such as at valve cover/front crank seal/cam seal/rear main seal/etc...??? If you do I am curious where/when in mileage and time did the particular leak occur? I am trying to see if there is any benefits to more shorter change interval to minimize seal leaks repair but my experience has been that around 12-15 years or around 120-150k I would start to have leakage even though my oil change interval has always been at 5k. First leak is usually valve cover, follows by oil pan and now rear main seal...ughhh too expensive and not worth of repairing. I am really surprised that yours engine never leaked a drop being 30 years old and additionally the fact that you are putting in approx 10k a year which means many short trips and multiple heating cyclings the seal has to hardened no????

[@wardroland270]

Thanks Lake. Great job. Good info. God bless. Happy trails.

[@timothythompson4036]

Great technical presentation. There is a difference with high mileage oil. It isn't just marketing hype.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@noobwow2009]

Penny oil ultra is the best oil for the lowest price you can get. It’s just much much smoother and quieter then other oil.

[@jasonsong86]

Most high mileage oil will be slightly higher viscosity when new and contain higher amount of seal conditioner to help with an engine that has been loosened up over time.

[@joebarra1941]

Do a before and after video of high mileage engine cylinders before and after adding coolant to engine intake, and compare to using seafoam and techron. Amazing videos, thanks !

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@DigitalIP]

I started using Platinum High Mileage Full Synthetic a number of years ago partially due to a trusted source on youtube that tends to test such things. For my 99 Tahoe nearing 200k i dont know of anything better.

[@Relusion1388]

I've been putting high mileage pennzoil platinum in my 2001 Ford ranger for a couple years. 126k miles. Seems to run really smooth with it.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing!

[@nicholaspetre1]

This is outstanding data! Simply superb info and explanations!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nicholaspetre1]

@@themotoroilgeek Do you have anywhere oil report for Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W20 ?

[@themotoroilgeek]

@@nicholaspetre1 stay tuned! That video is coming soon.

[@stanleybennett8879]

What do you think of Motor kote?

[@cmerighe2]

What’s the conclusion????????????????

[@DaDaDo661]

They are the same but with seal conditioners. Which is already known

[@bohickity]

I exclusively have used Super Tech High Mileage Full Synthetic in all my twenty year old/plus 200K cars (Honda/Toyota). Maybe if I owned a Ford EcoBoost or Dodge Hemi I would change to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Some engines need all the help they can get.

[@bobmartens1089]

I switched to Pennsoil full syn high mileage oil at 100,000km on 5.0 2014 f150 sounds better but ive always changed at 3500km full syn hopefully get 500,000km out of her

[@themotoroilgeek]

Those more frequent oil changes are the best way to reach that long engine life.

[@arturozarate1752]

I've been running 5w-20 in my 2016 F150 5.0L for over 400k miles! @ 100k I had the valve covers off to replace the VVT solenoids. Clean on both sides. I mean CLEAN! @ 220k I replaced the leaking oil pan gasket. The crankcase was SO CLEAN! Recently, @ 380k I replaced the plastic valve covers with the Ford Racing aluminum covers.....just as clean as it was at 100k! I run a Corsa CAI, custom stainless and coated 1¾" stepped to 1⅞" tuned equal length longtubes, Corsa cat back, and a tune. 93 pump gas costs over $125 to fill up and I get a little over 700 miles to a tank. I'm a Ford Senior Master Automotive and Diesel Technician, and I've recommended this oil to everyone for almost 10 years. In 25 years of turning wrenches, I've seen a lot of oils, but this is the only one I've stood behind.

[@hazendismukesjr.8319]

I like the high mileage oil have ester oil in it for the seals to remain soft

[@jkim6200]

Great info! I have relocated in South Korea, where they chauvinistically champion Group 3 Base Oil and oil products (VHVI) that the domestic petroleum products manufacturers specialize on. Price is relatively low and quality is good, but unquestioning faith in the donestic/local products is a bit disturbing even if Yubase and other Korean base oils are commonly used.

[@pipedreams57]

With 42 years in this business and a 20 year old chevy silverado, I use dino 10w30 oil and add a 1/2 bottle of STP at every change [olefin copolymer with zinc] . This stands up much better to heavy use like hauling and towing than synthetics. For extreme cold weather I go to the synthetics for their pumpability. Cost is a factor here as well as oil change intervals [ every 3000 miles for my truck]. I like 15w40 for all my air cooled engines, mowers, log splitter, etc.because 10w30 allows too much wear and heat.When in doubt always go with the heavy duty stuff. Also America still buys junk crude oil from all over the world, so who knows what we are getting. Keep it simple & keep it safe. GM is in the business of selling cars and the API cannot be trusted.

[@wanderpup]

Really absorbing the meaning of the oil recipes, thx. Are you going to do a series on oil friction reducing additives? I've been die hard for Prolong for all my gas engines for thirty years and would appreciate your analysis.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Yes, we are going to do a deep dive on additives.

[@wanderpup]

@@themotoroilgeek sweet! Can't wait. Thx

[@speedbeagle6498]

Good information for people who already know this information. Clear as mud.

[@marksullivan9954]

Please do a Platinum vs Ultra Platinum comparison. Not only Please but Pretty Please. 😁😁 I have switched from Mobil One to Penzoil Platinum to Pennzoil ultra platinum. Oil consumption with Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra Platinum is much less than with Mobil One. Thanks for the Great videos.

[@brucek.hoffman5868]

m1 = crap 💩

[@davesiringo7147]

I just found this channel and I can't get enough. Ive been using pennzoil platinum or ultra platinum and wix synthetic filters for over 20 years. One of our vehicles is a 2010 dodge with the 3.5 V6. It just turned 200k and is still quiet as a mouse. Isn't that unheard of? It's got to be the oil.

[@SirPractical]

For 111K miles, would you go with Pennzoil Ultra, or a high mileage?

[@JBean_COCR]

I've moved away from ICE to EV except for my motorcycle. But I appreciate anyone who knows what they are talking about and depends on data (professional). Thank you

[@donaldbanner2185]

................................... DUMB....should have gone Hybred!

[@eppyz]

Thank You simplifying something that can be very difficult to understand👍

[@ericalbers4867]

I did a LOT of research to use a new oil and Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra Platinum (good luck getting that anywhere but online) both came out on top in basically everything. I was expecting Royal Purple, Redline, Amsoil, and Mobile 1 to all beat it out. Idk what Pennzoil did since the early 2000's when I first started driving but man they went for it with their synthetics. I'm just glad they made a Platinum that exceeds the top certifications for my TDI. Not many oils get that cert.

[@doughty_performance]

If you ever wrote a book I wanna buy 2. One autographed and the other as a textbook that I would refer to on a daily basis. So much damn good information.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@V.is.for.Vae.Victus]

Been using Pennzoil Platinum Ultra 0W20 in my Outback for years, and 5W30 in everything older for as long as it's been on the market. Pretty close to AmSoil without the trouble of tracking the stuff down.

[@robmclain6423]

Very interesting, I bought Pennzoil ultra platinum, truck has over 80,000 miles. Doesn't use oil, will the ultra be as good as anything or should I use a high mileage or another oil?

[@Funkydood]

I'm starting to get interested in tribology...BTW, the Ultra Platinum is even better!

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

I’ve been using pennzoil synthetic high mileage and it’s great I had tried mobile one and valvoline and Quaker state my Jeeps did ok but my wife’s Toyota 2.5ARFE was having a little VVT rattle on start up after going to pennzoil it literally went away on start up and my Jeeps 3.6 ran smoother . I now use ultra love it even more my wife’s gas mileage improved and still runs quieter

[@ChicagoRob2]

Yes, Ultra Platinum is my go-to. Best cold-flow properties of all oils, except for the very expensive Amzoil. Zero valvetrain noise in our ‘19 CX-5 and ‘17 Camry. Blackstone analysis shows a robust add pack.

[@TheLonesometoad]

@@ChicagoRob2 : Been wanting to try the ultra but can't find it anywhere! Where can it be found?

[@harrylister804]

Interesting. I ran LiquiMoly(green stuff) 5W-30 in my 2.4L Toyota and took a 2000 mile round trip at high speeds and burned 1/2 a quart down and another 1/2 quart on return. I wasnt too happy about that. I switched to High Mileage synthetic 5W-30 STP and made another trip and didn't burn a drop. The difference in price between brands is significant. If I let it sit overnight however, the first start has a stumble and a slight rattle in the first 2 seconds or so and then silence. It didn't do that on startup with LIquiMoly. I wonder if It'd be happier on startup and no burning on hard trips with a GTL like Pennzoil Platinum?

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

@@harrylister804 i just switched to pennzoil ultra platinum. No VVT rattle now

[@harrylister804]

@@sheerwillsurvival2064 That's good to hear, I'll keep in mind for next oil change. Does it have something that helps cold starts, or is that the benefit of Platinum's superior base oil like Mr. Lake says reduces the need for the additive levels?

[@Latrocinium086]

Man liking the channel, subscribing. But saw you do a visit to another shop and you went on about detergents and fuel additives, especially for diesel. Was curious if you could do a video on that, fleshing it out

[@the_lippmann]

i was hoping you had your own channel! saw you on Stapleton's channel and thought you'd be an interesting one to crank out some videos. Glad you do!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@stephanebucari8800]

j'ai tellement appris sur cette vidéo ! merci de partager votre passion et travail

[@daveroski]

I also was Wondering how the ultra platinum performs with the group!

[@RoadKing65]

A very interesting topic and it was well explained. I wish I could find the truth of small engine garden tractor oil vs car oil of the same weight.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion!

[@pkdude5334]

I refuse to use Pennzoil ever again since they refused to send me my $25 rebate. That $25 will cost them thousands in future sales.

[@brandonbennett7337]

😂😂

[@johnmpifer]

I came here to post about the $25 Pennzoil rebate that’s going on right now.

[@pkdude5334]

​@@johnmpiferlook at the replies on slickdeals posts. people had to fight to get rebates, and many including myself never got them. Not worth the hassle for $25. I'll just use Supertech if I want to save money.

[@BoilerBloodline]

Mobil1 has sent me every single rebate I’ve ever gotten through them. But the best part is that I’ve been using only Mobil1 in my vehicles for over 20 years. Not once in that time have I had any engine failures of any type. Two vehicles of which I still own. I have friends who run Amsoil, Royal Purple, Liqui-Moly, Total and they’ve all experienced failures in the time that I’ve had none. The results speak for themselves.

[@hialeahhigh]

He cant be serious 😅

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Very interesting results Wow Impressive For the Platinum very nice 18:12 @The Motor Oil Geek

[@MrsSunshine75]

Would love for you to analyze Valvoline high mileage full synthetic, and Valvoline semi-synthetic high mileage 150k!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion!

[@brucek.hoffman5868]

y wood u think that a product w/sum REAL oil could possibly b any better ? ? ? 'full syn' iz really over refined real oil, junk... 🤯

[@MrsSunshine75]

@@brucek.hoffman5868 WTH are you talking about?

[@spartanpatriot3163]

TBN does however play a part in how well an oil handles fuel dilution in DI engines and some DI engines have a huge fuel dilution problem.

[@themotoroilgeek]

A high TBN from Calcium detergents is very bad for DI engines.

[@nofascistsonmywatch]

THIS is what I always thought as well, especially for GTDI engines which must idle in cold weather for extended periods of time (stop and go traffic, etc.). The excess blow-by from boosted DI engines also hurts as well. Doesn't the fuel in the oil eventually turn it at least somewhat acidic, even if it is of THE lowest sulfur content possible? Is there just as much harm to GTDI engines (LSPI, deposits, etc.) from the magnesium and boron detergents/dispersants as there is from the purely calcium based ones??? I thought that was WHY the blenders/additive package manufacturers switched from calcium to the other element detergents, no?

[@Jeff_Seely]

I have an organics background to a lesser degree and I do not know many compounds that I work with that could withstand 150C for a whopping 150 hours. That's a very aggressive test. The only thing I think would come close is H3PO4 (phosphoric acid). This video is very interesting, thank you!

[@TonyTundra5.7]

Awesome channel and explained in a way we can all understand Thank you You have a new subscriber

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@dadadadada4974]

Great detail and review of the high milage formula. 👍

[@chipsawdust5816]

Monday morning nerding out on oil tech. Thanks :)

[@jjames5928]

I watched this video.. and now I understand why my "100% PAO HotShot Blue Diamond" turns black so fast in a deleted diesel but yet Rotella takes 5x longer before it gets to the same darkness Its oxidation rate is alot higher even tho they claim it resists oxidation

[@bigblocklawyer]

Man, I don't care who hears it, but two absolute rock solids tennants of mine after working on engines for 40 years is never use pennzoil oil or fram filter.

[@usocrazy6133]

What are your thoughts about liquid titanium additives?

[@TheCrewChief374]

Lake, extremely informative as alway man, which one of the key themes I keep hearing is about the oils like 0w 30 for instance over the traditional way I would look at oil say for a racecar. Which would be the standard 20W 50 for a performance application. Of course, I am no doubt seeing my line of thinking isn't or wasn't as fruitful as I was lead to believe for such a long time. It is also definitely got me even reconsidering using my Amsoil 20W 50 in my 97 3.8 Chrysler van. Although I still love my Amsoil products, so I may just have to look into the 5W 30 as the manufacturer recommends and stop playing around with the higher numbers like 20W 50. Because no doubt something else that comes across from your videos is my line of thinking is most definitely flawed. 😂

[@themotoroilgeek]

I’m glad the videos are helpful!

[@LA_Commander]

Always use what the manufacturer specifies on the oil cap. That 20w50 is way too thick for your engine if they require 5w30. There are many reasons they specify that grade of oil.

[@brucek.hoffman5868]

i used m1 in my vette engine, went rite out the exhaust... filled it up w/3 qts of stp 20w50, ran like a champ... which AMSOIL r u considering ? ' premium protection' ( ARO ) or Z_ROD ( ZRF ) i hav used a higher weight oil 2 help STOP chewing oil, just up a little, f/a 5w30 2 a 5w40... it does work... 😁

[@aaronwright561]

You need to do more content youre a treasure. You should tackle oil ratings like ck4 cj5 etc as well as educate the population on why ash or sulphur is problematic in oil in zeolithic/catalytic matrixes on modern engines.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@gnd111]

Any oil is fine oif changed at 5k or 6 months.....been doing this 40 years

[@mikecee_bbq1802]

This was excellent, and I appreciate it. I also found it interesting how some of these chemicals are also used in the process of optical fiber. Bcl3, pocl3, sicl3, used in a vapor form, not liquid though.