EXPOSED: The Truth About Pennzoil and Quaker State (Plus A Sneak Peek At Our Next Video)

[@dougrobinson8602]

Please do the history of motor oil. I'd also love to see you evaluate Big Box brands like Kirkland and Supertech. Keep on educating us. There are a lot of snake oil myths to be busted!

[@dalehilborn691]

Kirkland, supertech, and Amazon basics are all blended by the same place

[@vais3]

@@dalehilborn691 Warren oil. I believe they’re a blender and distributor. Not certain where their base stocks come from.

[@Good-luck-Jonathan]

Those are low-end group 3 and don’t compare to some of the better ones when you look at the lab work from users postings.

[@tuckerhiggins4336]

They're fine. Any oil is better than no oil

[@camsheet4649]

I’d love to know about Kirkland please

[@BornToDrive1500E]

A video about history of motor oil would be really nice!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Once upon a time in the 1800’s. Yawn!

[@boostedrex9460]

Yawn for you. Not for me or others requesting it bozo ​@@Michael-yi4mc

[@derekelliott6098]

*engine

[@JimSix-jo6hf]

I would love to see it, motor oils have changed a lot, and Lake is the guy to do it

[@Guspech750]

I never thought learning about the science of oil could be entertaining. But Lake manages to accomplish that quite easily. 👌

[@JimSix-jo6hf]

yes he does a great job, I learn new things on every video

[@anthonyiannone7618]

chemistry over brand , thats a great statement and i would love to learn what you have to say. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT MR SPEED!!!!

[@MrEFHATCH1990]

A channel about one of the most hotly debated and hated subjects on internet car forums, genius! Now we just need a guy to break down the science on tires and there will be no more fights on the forums! Great work on this channel, I love it!

[@lazerusmfh]

Tyre Reviews right here on KZbin. Amazing guy.

[@indyrock8148]

Lol was going say this. He does agreat job​@@lazerusmfh

[@airline3hum]

This never gets old! Who would have thought oil would be this fascinating, even for us gear heads. But then again, what's more important for any mechanical device rotating 1000's of times a minute for hours at a time than healthy oil. Love that you're testing and comparing the big brand names, too!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@aoeuidhtnsnthdiueoa]

I can't wait for your history of motor oil video!

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

Yes, 9:52 is exactly what I'm say when I stupidly engage in any oil debate. Yes, I also would be interested in the history of motor oil.

[@kendavis1198]

Tell y'all what folks. SCHAEFFERS OIL is gonna be Right at the TOP of the HISTORY OF MOTOR OIL. They started out making some Weird stuff, and Wagon Wheel GREASE! Guarantee it'll be right at the Beginning Somewhere of the History Of Motor Oil!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@tomm9860]

Ford Motor Oil and the Oil OIlzum use to be the best in my day.

[@davidbays9848]

I worked for 12 years at The Lubrizol Chemical plant at Deer Park, TX. I was an operator involved with the processing of the Marine Diesel Oil Detergent Component. It was a Labor Intensive Process, very little automation and Lots and Lots of Filtering the end product. The Plant was built in 1955. All the Bottling was done in Channelview,TX.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing! We used several products that came from the Deer Park plant at JGR.

[@dbmail545]

I'm old enough to remember "Pennsylvania grade" motor oil base. All I would run in my performance engines: HD40 for air-cooled engines, HD30 for water-cooled engines.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Right on!

[@outwiththem]

Single grade. And some STP in too. Too thick. I was young and youtube was a vulgar word..

[@Eturmum]

Penn crude is trash I run only Castrol or valvoline

[@smg1093]

I was born and grew up in Oil City, PA, home of Pennzoil, QS, Wolfshead, and Amalie. The natives always used Pennzoil.

[@bullwag1978]

Been using wolfshead forever at this point

[@Nel33147]

Pennsylvania = QUAKERstate

[@kirkjohnson6638]

I grew up in Oil City too. I haven't lived there since '81, but I generally visit once a year. I've never been partial to either Pennzoil or Quaker State brands, but have been using QS Ultimate Durability oil for the past several years.

[@fordrac1ng81]

Spent the last 15 or so years nerding out on BITOG so I am very glad content creators like you have started making videos about these subjects.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Welcome aboard!

[@gobsmacked230]

I've been a BITOG aficionado since it started. Even though I'm now retired and driving a LOT less I still love this stuff...keep 'em coming Lake!

[@akdomun]

History of motor oil would be great, especially the landmark court case between Mobil1 and Castrol which allowed any oil (semi synthetics included) which performed like a true synthetic to be called a synthetic in the US!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@hotrodray6802]

All the more reason the we need LAKE SPEED Jr.

[@billp5656]

Would be highly interested

[@eugeneoreilly9356]

Castrol f****d it up for everyone by imho falsely winning the court case.

[@frankjones4094]

I'm in Lake. You pretty much turned me into an oil geek now.

[@themotoroilgeek]

LOL

[@rjaybruhh]

*_MOTOR OIL HISTORY!!_* bring it on!!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@oveidasinclair982]

I use Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20 in my 07 Camry (only 68K miles) and 0W-20 (112K miles) high mileage in my 13 RAV4, I do 3000 mile oil changes on both cars using OEM filters. I am totally satisfied with the Pennzoil natural gas derived oils. My 07 Toyota Camry is a known oil eater, Toyota used low tension rings on the pistons from 2006 to 2009. I purchased this car in March 2023 with 61,100 verified miles on the vehicle (real good CarFax report). When I change oil it takes about 4.8 quarts to get to the fill line on the dip stick and around 2200 miles I have to pour the rest of the oil left in the 5qt jug to get it back to the fill line. I did 3 oil changes on it so far (little over 10,000 I put on it over the last year), all three change sequences were identical. I use 5w-20, the oil pass through over the rings is minimal, on the RAV4 there is NO oil pass through over the rings, I never have to add oil to that engine over the 3000 mile change interval.

[@propergarage4249]

Put some thicker oil in it 5-40 would be perfect!

[@williambikash6645]

IN the mid 1970's Smokey wrote about and tested a synthetic oil called All proof 5w-50. The article was in Popular Science magazine. He built a mild 302 Chevy and gained 20 hp and lowered oil temp by about 15 degrees. Went back to mineral oil and lost the 20 hp. He pulled the heads between tests and checked the valves etc. I called Smokey and ordered enough oil for 2 302 Ford boat engines. My gains were similar to his. I was thrilled with the results and thrilled to speak with Smokey. When i called back to reorder for another oil change he informed me that the chemist died and his son changed the formula and he didn't like it. The oil came out of Superior, Wisconsin. Recently i read that the product became part of Royal Purple.I currently use Mobil 1 15w-50 in BBC marine engines and some hiper Chevy small block boat engines that don't always have oil coolers like the BBC. The Mobil 1 15w-50 was first marketed about 1986. Always looking for the " perfect" motor oil😂 Your information adds another level of understanding, Thanks

[@themotoroilgeek]

I remember reading about that oil in his book.

[@williambikash6645]

The oil cost $5.00 a quart, back in the 1970's and the 302 oil pans were oversize and held 7-8 quarts each engine..

[@vsam868]

I changed the oil in my wife's car for years. It was only when I did the first change using Royal Purple with Synerlec (not the API certified oil) she came back and asked what did I do to the car. She said it drove better, quieter and engine felt stronger. She thought I did some kind of tune to the engine. I told her all I did was an oil change. That experience sold me on RP and I used that in my own car and the engine did feel stronger.

[@mikeschlup5279]

Polyol Ester 2 to 1...plus some PAO..!

[@williambikash6645]

@@mikeschlup5279 Are these chemicals still used and marketed by which oil companies? Thanks

[@kanyeeastlolz]

-My thoughts on oil and related topics : -My favorite oil is the cheapest often Costco supertech or Amazon. - I like Penzoil ultra platinum, but only when it’s on sale - Wix filters always. -I’ve found that using a fumoto drainvalve and changing the oil early works wonders if you’re looking to own a car long term like 200k miles -4k-5k in mileage is the sweet spot for changing oil within 6 months

[@Good-luck-Jonathan]

Warren distribution stuff is low and group 3 and you’ll get more metals than Pennzoil platinum ultra, which is one of the best off shelf oils. 200,000 miles no problem with the Warren oil and wicks filter. If you want to go to 400,000 miles better use platinum ultra and Fram ultra or Amsoil filters. In some engines certain Amsoil oils perform better than platinum ultra, but you need to do analysis trending if that is the case with your application.

[@JoseHernandez-tz6xl]

you must own a Subaru

[@Logjammer69]

I had back to back 2 wix gold filters seep on me.

[@jd646]

Learn to install an oil filter ​@@Logjammer69

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

Wix filters are ok but they don't filter very well. Independent tests on BITOG have proven their synth filter nosedives at 20 microns, BAD.

[@vais3]

GTL based oils are one of my favorites. History of the oil would likely be helpful for many people. Especially an introduction of the various oil group types for some.

[@matthiasgrunwald895]

Why?

[@vais3]

@@matthiasgrunwald895 in what regard are you asking why?

[@supersportimpalass]

⁠@@vais3he is obviously curious why you say GTL based oils are your favorite. Is it really that hard to figure out his question based on your comment? 🤦🏼‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@vais3]

@@supersportimpalass very open ended question to an entire statement. Yes, I will ask for clarity before conveying my message. I’m thankful you could respond for them.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@upptowne]

My Grandpa owned a filling station with a garage in the 40's to late 60's. He used to say only use Pennzoil its made from Pennsylvania crude and that's the best. I just got hooked on your channel. Thanks

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing!

[@HerseySyntheticOil]

Thank you, Lake, you are a very good teacher. I am a rookie Amsoil Independent Dealer by just a couple of years. I've gotten a good education from you and Amsoil. With that knowledge, I've been able to share your info with others. Thank you very much for your passion and dedication to this industry.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you so much!

[@nathanielcasas8923]

This is definitely one of my favorite channels on KZbin! No other channel is doing what the motor oil geek is doing for us and showing us the actual science and not just repeating what the motor oil company is saying about their own oil! 👍👍👍

[@themotoroilgeek]

Wow, thank you!

[@El_Diablo_LI]

It's very obvious to many of us that you're speaking the truth based on science. So I think we would all love to see an episode, or more, on the history of motor oil I first became interested in motor oils when I bought my first brand new motorcycle in 1986. I wondered why there were car motor oils and motorcycle motor oils and wondered if I could run the cheaper of the two in my bike. I was also told at the time to not run synthetic oil in my bike because it would make the seals shrink causing oil leaks. Low and behold, against that original piece of advice, I did and actually started to see some oil seeping out of some seals which immediately made me switch back to conventional oil. That told me at the time there were significant differences in certain types of oils, but I'm also now aware that the additives are just as important, if not more, than what the base oil is made from. I'm so glad I found this channel and hope to get all of my questions answered over time as I watch future and past episodes. Thank you!

[@dyllanmarshall3506]

Thank you so much for all the information and the video.

[@sirdewd2197]

I feel like @LibricationExplained does a more detailed analysis.

[@redlywaxer]

Thank you Lake for all your testing, teaching, and sharing. So glad we found your channel! And yes, please do a history of motor oil for us!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@keithfraley9275]

Bob is no longer the oil guy, YOU ARE. I'm glad I discovered your channel. Great info. Keep it coming.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Wow! Thank you!!!

[@buckaroobonsi555]

Bob is dead and has been for some time. He was a great guy I knew him and was on bitog from the beginning. He was a Schaeffers sale rep not a chemistist or tribologist. You did not know him and are talking out your rear! The modern site is a mere shadow of what it once was. On top of that NORIA is a better place to go if you actual want to have intelligent conversations about lubrication of all kinds!

[@DGander007]

“Bob is the oil guy”. BITOG is the OG of online oil forum and advice. Truly a pioneer. He will be missed. That said, this KZbin channel is great as well. Cheers.

[@CedroCron]

Yeah it's full of junk science and a heavy amount of bias on their forums and when you question them the mob jumps all over you. I left a while ago.

[@Good-luck-Jonathan]

Does Noria have a forum to make posts? @@buckaroobonsi555

[@Bassy660]

I have a story about Quaker State. I had a kx250 for about 2yrs continuously running Mobil one crank oil(don’t remember the viscosity). The single time I was being cheap, the one time I used Quaker State(same viscosity), 5min into the first ride with Quaker, engine locked up. Bottom end had seized. Had to do a bottom end rebuild, but top end was okay, just changed rings. Never used that oil again. I now exclusively use mobile one on my bikes, and Mobil one, sometimes Pennzoil full synthetic, or motul on my cars/trucks. Never had a problem going that route. I won’t even use Quaker State in my lawn mower to be honest. Matter fact, I got a free case of pentosin oil from an owner of a Mercedes that I fixed and I’ve been using that for it. Runs sooo much better. I’m actually thinking about using pentosin in my cars now. It seems to be that good.

[@terrybuckwalter2340]

All consumers of motor oil should watch your videos. Science NOT speculation! Do not doubt for a moment the value of the research you provide to us! THANK YOU!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@kevinarnott9484]

Yes thank you very much 🤙

[@kevinarnott9484]

I’m waiting for the the Amsoil test!!! I will say this I ran Amsoil 2 stroke oil in my chain saw years ago and it was like a brand new saw , I don’t cut much anymore haven’t used it since, back when I tried it it was hard to find “ early 90’s lol, you or anyone reading this I have a ford 3.5 ecoboost , I want to do what’s right , I just put a quart of Lucas in my oil change, I’m going to dump it out !!!

[@MyerShift7]

Sadly, we've seen that science is speculation and propaganda with left wing nuts

[@charlesjacobs9785]

It would be very interesting to see the history of motor oil

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@sm7091bs]

Always nice to watch your content! Not to long, informative and some humor makes it delightful to watch. Greeting from the Netherlands

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for watching!

[@redironacres]

It would be really cool to see a video going over OEM diesel oils such as John Deere, AGCO, CNH, Kubota, CAT vs aftermarket like Rotella T4, T5, and T6, Delvac, and Delo. Would be nice to know what blends OEMs think work best in their equipment

[@jefweb5043]

Agreed 100%

[@rangerdalexp6221]

Don't forget about Delvac 1.

[@buckaroobonsi555]

None of the OEM oils are made by those OEM's they are buying oil from SOPUS, Exxon Mobile, Warren Industries, Valvoline, Citgo, BP etc....

[@redironacres]

@@buckaroobonsi555 I’m aware. They’re blended to the OEMs specks by those companies

[@oneninerniner3427]

And the OEMs bid it out to the lowest bidder as well I bet.

[@KHIJAPAN]

Can you make a video about motorbike wet clutch oil? For example, Motorex, Yamalube, Motul

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@dennisj3879]

would love to see a comparitive/review of the TriboDyn engine oils. There is very little information other than specs/certifications from the manufacturer - is the cost worth it!?!. Love your content!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for watching and the suggestion!

[@d.vinny1997]

Oh this is awesome! I use both of these oils and I’ve often wondered the differences since they are both SOPUS products. Thanks so much for taking the time to properly inform fellow oil nerds like myself! I am really looking forward to your motor oil history video!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@TheJcrandazzo]

Maybe I missed it but which oil is better QS or Penn ?

[@manuelleos1007]

The pennzoil has a more refined base oil. Personally I've run both in all my vehicles and can't tell a difference. I'll get whichever is available and on sale at Wal-Mart.

[@rolandotillit2867]

That actually blows my mind, I thought QS was a GTL based oil, thanks for setting the record straight!

[@Nellis202]

It’s still damn good oil and at a great price. Their Ultimate Protection is as good as any advanced synthetic oil out there and can be had for $22 at Walmart. Just a dollar more than SuperTech or Kirkland. For a 5,000 OCI , it just can’t be beat.

[@kalani1987]

​@@Nellis202as of 3/1/24, this QS Ultimate is on sale on Walmart online for $19 per 5 qt jug

[@wholeNwon]

@@kalani1987 Which is why I bought it and I keep my cars "forever"...26 yrs. now with my daily driver. No issues. I also ignore the time interval between changes.

[@speterbilt]

I use pennzoil ultra-platinum in my 2017 v6 Tacoma for the last 2yrs. It is fantastic. Truck idles so smooth. Can't even tell it's running and has over 127k miles on it.

[@rubenfranko6600]

I just started using penszoil platinum on tacoma and it’s awesome next time ultra platinum.

[@speterbilt]

@@rubenfranko6600 the utra platinum is amazing. My truck idles so smooth. It took like 2 changes for it to idle so smooth, but worth it

[@barongilocano]

Please make a video about mixing oils - different brands, different viscosity, etc. Thanks, Lake! Wishing you all the best for this channel.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion!

[@rickss69]

@@themotoroilgeek Yeah great...then nobody knows what the heck you have concocted or it's properties.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

There is a video of just this. Look for Project farm mixing oils. He is very thorough and the video is well done.

[@dwaynemcallister7231]

Thank you Lake! I recall in 1991 after I built a 351C engine for street a drag usage after break in I chose Torco 5W-40, the dealer provided me with brochure's on the history of the Torco brand going back to the post WWII era. They spoke of Gus Johnston, Bob Lancaster who invented the first 20W-50 racing oil in 1948 long before SAE identified this viscosity. He was racing a Ariel Square Four at El Mirage dry lake in California and he needed to find a way make the engine live through a race.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing!

[@save16thave]

351C engines are great and are the king of all small blocks. Just had to say that.

[@dwaynemcallister7231]

Yes, I agree, and ai do miss beast, owned it 30 years. The guy I sold it to pulled the quench heads and put open chamber on it, big mistake, but yeah they can really make a lot of power.@@save16thave

[@donrichter3523]

Which is why Ford dumped it after about 5 years.

[@dwaynemcallister7231]

After 1971 they were looking for low emissions, performance was dead @@donrichter3523

[@tonybrunetti]

Also want to see Amsoil but I love to see that chemistry as well

[@kevinirvine8038]

Thanks lake for the great topics and high end video quality. Some of my favorite videos on KZbin by far!!!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Wow, thanks!

[@Bbbbad724]

I ran Penzoil 10w40 in my FEs. Never lost a cam. And at 259,000 miles I tore it down and did even need to bore it! But I did.020 over for the forged pistons and the cork gaskets had a thick layer of sweat, but inside it was like new. Amazing. That old Penzoil 10w40 was really good!

[@5hawks]

FEs and Pennzoil!

[@Switzerlandboy420]

Tried both. Pennzoil on the Thin side (platinum)5w30 runs like 0w20. It doesn’t even last 5k mile interval without burning oil. Quaker state 5w30 doesn’t burn at all.

[@richcombs4805]

Such a pleasure to listen to a fellow engineer. Having helped application engineer and sell API machinery governed by 2000 pages of enduser specs and Shell DEP specs, I can say for sure that their ultra tough project requirements tend to yield higher quality and consistency, and that Ultra certainly helped my car reach 400,000 miles. I did not know Shell owned them and the additive company until now....very interesting!!!! I consider myself fortunate to have met Shell engineers in a meeting.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Right on! Thanks for sharing!

[@jimandnancymcoil]

I met Speed at a Carlisle seminar15 years ago, I believe He was working for Joe Gibbs? I asked a few questions wearing my AMSOIL hat & t-shirt? He seemed to not like me?

[@richcombs4805]

@@jimandnancymcoil well, once in a while our attire can set the tone....don't feel bad, I got a "go-away" reception from a competitor at the turbo show once in Houston LOL....I was just standing there minding my own business looking at their booth, wearing my employer's emblem on my shirt 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Cfchild1]

I've been using the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic for several years now instead of the Motorcraft brand for my Ford vehicle. Seems like my vehicle consumes less oil between changes with the Pennzoil. I look forward to seeing your evaluation results for your Porsche using the Pennzoil.

[@AlanSanderson-u4t]

When I got my 2001 F450, Pennzoil made the only 5w20 synthetic I could buy on the open market. Others later became available. I believe Honda used the same oil.

[@John_D2]

A video on "the best oil for air cooled engines" would be really interesting. Thanks for the vids, Lake !

[@mrtdiver]

Are you thinking for airplanes? That's my first thought when you say air cooled.

[@felixschubert7800]

Porsche & VW Bug

[@gnarlytothemax]

and Harleys@@felixschubert7800

[@brianchisnell1548]

I use Valvoline VR-1 straight 30wt in my VW engine. High zinc, for flat tappet engines. Really happy with how much quieter the engine is.

[@David-vu9zo]

Do the history of oil. Can you see if you can get your hands on some old Arco graphite oil. Curious what’s in that old oil. My Dad thought that was greatest stuff ever. Love the channel.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion! Thanks!

[@BlazerGuy1983]

I’d be interested in seeing the difference between CVT fluids. Such as Nissan brand NS2 vs Havoline, Valvoline, Castrol. I see Castrol sells at Walmart a universal CVT fluid that works in automatic transmission too. I wonder how safe it is to use in a CVT?

[@johnmatthews7703]

Glad to hear that you will be looking at Amsoil eventually. Also would be curious if you took a look at Idemitsu, both US and Japanese formulas.

[@averyalexander2303]

Agreed. Eneos and Ravenol are two other brands I'm curious about. One way Lake could really set his channel apart from most others is by making videos on foreign brands that aren't common here.

[@scatpack4715]

@@averyalexander2303Are Ravenol oils available in the US?

[@averyalexander2303]

@@scatpack4715 It's not readily available, but if someone wants it, it's available online. It's expensive, but so is Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, HPL, etc.

[@mrtdiver]

I second your thoughts. Yes that Japanese Idemitsu oil looks really interesting. I'm thinking it's really good engine oil. If I remember correctly it was high in the additive package . maybe Molybdenum and Boron.

[@johnmatthews7703]

We are a multiple Subaru family so intersted as Idimitsu manufactures the Subaru-branded oil. @@mrtdiver

[@vinniemorciglio4632]

A video about which manufacturers make the OEM oils for Automotive companies would be helpful as well.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion!

[@dsmith2656]

Yes please, Motorcraft 5w30 vs Dexos etc

[@darryladams519]

​@@themotoroilgeekDiesel oil video please

[@scottwhitcher265]

@vinniemorciglio4632 Realize that OEMs fill their equipment with "break-in oil". They often use a moly disulfide cam lubricant and likely other additives in larger quantities than one would want to maintain. They also may well use a different blend for maintenance after the first oil change or two.

[@rickss69]

@@scottwhitcher265 Bullshit...none of them have ever used a "break-in" oil...ever.

[@Maverick09171]

Man. Can you just do an motor oil 101. GTL, group 3, pao, etc. what the differences are. How they’re made. What the pros and cons of each are. That’d be a great reference! Thanks!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Great suggestion!

[@JayzBeerz]

I use Ultra Platinum only in my turbo. It’s been 30,000 miles and it is spotless.

[@OvaHendrix-j4t]

I have a 09 platinum Ford 4*4 its got a 198.000 on it an it runs as new as the day I got it a I run Pennzoil platinum or motor craft oil an sometime Quaker State an its clean an runs great always out mid grade or better it helps the oil clean the ins use of the engine better

[@johnfeliu6635]

Love your vids Lake. Keep up the good work.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks! I really appreciate that.

[@johnfeliu6635]

Any chance about transmission fluid. There's little said on the breakdown of the plethora of different types that are out there. Your the man to do it. If the engine is the heart the tranny is the soul.

[@johndyc3047]

Would love to see a oil history video! Great information, keep em coming!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@wesmullennix3495]

super interested

[@Josh-b3c]

Everything all the time yes

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@Redonammo]

Keep em coming Lake, just keeps getting better!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@ruqbanali]

Hi, can you also test amsoil signature series 0w-20 100% synthetic engine oil. Thanks❤.

[@dyllanmarshall3506]

I know the Quaker State Full Synthetic 0w-20 blew the doors off the mobil 1 0w-20, I had less wear metals, QSFS then the Mobil 1, that’s what the engine told me.

[@kyridgejumper]

Please keep up these great videos. You really put a different perspective out there for us and that is truly needed

[@nicholaspetre1]

Highly anticipating that video with your Porsche and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil analysis after 3K miles. Very interesting to hear your opinion about its performance and also your interpretation of its chemical and physical properties/coefficients after oil analysis. This is definitely a top content!

[@D3AThCAl2DS]

As a mechanic who is cleaning up an isx15 who ran pennzoil say no it has a lot of plugged oil galleries

[@codym7960]

@@D3AThCAl2DS i dont even think pennzoil makes a diesel oil ? if they do i dont think it marketed towards heavy duty trucks

[@lieutenantdangle3128]

@@nicholaspetre1An ISX is a 15liter Cummins truck engine.

[@lieutenantdangle3128]

@@D3AThCAl2DSPennzoil doesn’t make a HD diesel oil. I’m calling BS.

[@garywinkel1831]

Love these videos, Lake. I do all of my own car maintenance and have for decades. My family routinely gets hundreds of thousands of miles out of a car, and I credit that to proper, routine maintenance, oil changes being number one on the list. Your information is invaluable.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you so much!

[@rshettle123]

The best oil is by whoever changes it the most.

[@klauswilson4687]

I agree changing oil is more important. Frequency is everything.

[@philipfarnam6013]

Agree. It's a machine. Put oil in it. Change it once in a while...and don't drive like an idiot. You'll be fine.

[@markdavidson1049]

Not really. The best oil is the one that has the best wear protection and sludge prevention and ALSO gets changed on time.

[@lonniebeal6032]

@@klauswilson4687 Nope, the additive package is everything.

[@Shadows-RC]

​@@lonniebeal6032There are folks with a LOT of miles on stuff like Kirkland and SuperTech synthetic. OG poster is correct. Keep it changed and clean without going overboard. If it's not a super car, get realistic and drop the super dee duper veja veeta vitamin oils. People are making obsession into a hobby. It's neurotic imo.

[@TastySurrealBowl]

It’s good to hear you emphatically state IT’S NOT THE BRAND THAT MATTERS it’s WHAT’S IN THE BRAND. Too many car guys love to bluster on about what they always relied on “back in the day” because they had X number of cars run 250,000 miles without a hiccup using “good ol’ reliable ____”. I grew up loyal to conventional Quaker State in my first 30 years of cars (80s, 90s, 00’s). Then when everything changed and little GDI engines with turbos became the new normal I relearned how to find the right oil for each vehicle I bought based on its individual engine. I quickly learned brand is not what matters most anymore. Thank you for your analysis & advice on the samples I’ve sent to SpeedDiagnostix, and thank you for making these videos and continuing to educate!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you so much!

[@garyszewc3339]

Lake, I love all your videos. It's funny how many people blow off your advice, saying they don't trust random Internet dudes. They have mo clue of your knowledge and expertise. I just give up trying to teach people, and absorb as much as possible from your videos.

[@themotoroilgeek]

LOL, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it.

[@scottwhitcher265]

@garyszewc3339 It's the "random" part that loses credibility. One needs to read what they write then determine "does it pass the 'smell test"" and does it add up? Performance beats credentials every time. Having credentials, passing the "smell test" and "speaking the truth" are the marks of a true professional.

[@riceburner4747]

Thank u for all u DO. I'd very much be interested in history. Oil is the heartbeat & I feel I never could learn too much. I'm 71, live in PA & used Quakerstate in my dad's car. As I went to automotive schools, used Kendall. And the last few decades, went from Castol & now use Toyota brand oil. I haven't used PA oil since 50yrs. I ALSO, am a stickler on gasoline & buy "top tier" gasoline ONLY. 👍

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@soldierbyname]

Yes history please!!!!!!! Lubrizol plants in niagara falls Canada. Lots of the valvoline I ran came from there. Was interesting to drive through the plant. When they blended oil was usually with 50lbs bags of raw additives into a vat. Would mix overnight then would get tested and adjusted. There was a small window of variance between batches.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Awesome! The original batches of Joe Gibbs oil was made at the LuCan plant... Noted on the history video.

[@andrewflores4981]

Any word on that new Valvoline Restore and protect oil? Considering running it in my vehicle but not sure how effective Valvoline's claim of removing *100% of deposits*

[@brainyj13]

recently switched from mobil 1 to Pennzoil platinum , i can say may sound silly but the pennzoil is the best smelling oil ive came across other than race gas washed vr1

[@r1ckgrimes97]

Would love the full history on motor oils!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@mordaccadrom250]

Hi Lake. Love your research & explanations. Question/Request: Can you explain why the top of the line Pennzoil "Ultimate Platinum" does not appear to meet Dexos1 standards, while the "Platinum" does.... at a considerably lesser price point? Pennzoil's back of the bottle comparisons simple show the difference as the "Ultimate" is for higher performance/protection than the regular "Platinum". Seems odd to me that a better performing, better protection & higher priced "Flag-ship" oil would knock itself out of GM specs..... Is it too good for GM? LOL. Thank you for your thoughts and explanations. I enjoy your channel!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for the kind words and the suggestion.

[@TedSchoenling]

Yes I'd love to hear you talk about the history of Motor Oil

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@brandonzilka1274]

I've had nothing but great success in the past 27 years with Pennzoil natural base oils and quality Wix oil filters. My current Hyundai daily driver is almost 13 years old and is just shy of 90,000 miles, I bought it new. It starts, runs, and drives perfectly every day and sounds completely happy. On other cars, even ones I bought new, I tried the expensive synthetics and had nothing but problems with them. I can't completely blame the oil though, it's critical to follow the instructions of the engineers who designed the engine and use what they intended to be used for lubrication.

[@dyllanmarshall3506]

The Valvoline 5w-20 Restore and Protect has a 6.1 oxidation value.

[@mlieser1230]

I'd be interested in a motor oil history video. I didn't know that Pennzoil and Quakerstate were both owned by Shell. Your oil analysis reports go into much more detail than Blackstone's. I like how your reports give an explanation of the purpose each additive performs.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@stephenalbright6961]

I love your videos, I thought I knew a lot about motor oil but I'm learning even more watching your videos

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

I also can't wait for your history of motor oil video from Lake Speed Jr. I am a huge fan of him and his cutting through all the fog of motor oil. I am a retired 58 year old IT geek with a deep car history who geeks on all this stuff. My new favorite thing is thowing up lab analysis numbers on brands in oil debate forums. I truly 150% agree with Lake's statement, brand means little, it's all in the oil chemistry but you'll always have tons of hard core brand only loyalist on oil debate forums that feel better spending $12 a quart when the lab results show near identical numbers with $6.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for watching!

[@bloodbushcraft2467]

What's funny is this was my choices of oil Friday and I went with QS because it was available and cheaper. I'll try to pick up some pennzoil well before I bed to change it again

[@damarpo5467]

What a subject matter to explore! the last 25 yeas oils have gone through a major transformation, very interesting subject matter

[@chasecapehart]

Yes sir I would love more history and content

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@bgj2940]

Can you do testing on euro spec oil like Motul. Specifically Motul 8100 X-cess Gen 2 vs something like Pennzoil Euro and Quaker State Euro.

[@michaelh.1262]

Also liqui moly

[@dadgarage7966]

Great video. Shell and Shell brand lubricants are really good overall. As well, Shell makes the Motomaster brand for Canadian Tire.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing!

[@petershulick5270]

I'm curious if speed Diagnostics if it's possible to color code the additives in the oil examination or Diagnostics reports depending on the company they're manufactured by

[@themotoroilgeek]

That’s an interesting idea, but it would be very difficult to do with a high level of accuracy.

[@petershulick5270]

@@themotoroilgeek have you been to a tour at the Amsoil oil production facility

[@joelmacdonald6994]

I’d be comfortable using either, but I do use Platinum. I’ll keep using it. I believe in top notch oil, I use a group 4 oil in my motorcycle, and the longevity shows. I agree, it’s not the brand, it’s the chemistry.

[@albisasky766]

Very interesting and informative video. I wish that Pennzoil Platinum Plus would come in 0W-16 so that I can use it in my 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross.

[@randomfootages9120]

I bought pennzoil platinum ow 16 with 24000KM protection guaranteed for my 2020 Toyota Prius and it’s outstanding really amazing 🤩. I think you should give it a try and see for yourself 😎. I mean why not bro

[@ogdale]

Hey Lake Appreciate all you're work you put into making these vids! Always great info. I get excited when I see you have a new vid out. 😀 💯👍

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@capriracer351]

I drive past the former Quaker State corporate headquarters on my way to work ever day. Right up the road from there was the original Pennzoil refinery. I also drive past what used to be the Pennzoil research center on my way to work every day. When those companies were bought out by Shell, a HUGE amount of talent left the area when they shut everything down. I'm sure they make great oil, but I am having a hard time buying any of it since they left. Probably just being overly stubborn and bull headed, but I knew a lot of good people that lost good paying jobs and pretty much everything they owned in the aftermath. Some started over again, usually by moving out of the area. Many never recovered.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for sharing that insight.

[@Nellis202]

Just go with Valvoline ! An independent American owned company out of Ashland Tennessee. Their advanced synthetic offers great protection and is priced competitively. Their Extended protection is excellent, comparable to Pennzoil Ultra and costs less.

[@terrywolfe3344]

I concur. I live in Oil City. We are proud of our contribution to the oil industry. Little do most people know the world's first oil was drilled up the road in Titusville, Pa in 1859

[@capriracer351]

@@terrywolfe3344 absolutely. We were once the center of the world and most people in the modern day don't even realize it.

[@somaday2595]

@@Nellis202 Aramco bought Valvoline in 2022. Before that, it had been independent following a spinoff from Ashland, (at one time in Ashland, KY). Its headquarters is now in Lexington, KY.

[@scottwhitcher265]

First time seeing your video explaination. As an engineer (and old mechanic), I enjoyed it. I've beed using Pennz since the '70's and ling ago noticed customers who used QS in their cars tended to have paraffin gumming things up. Those who used Pennz, Valvoline or Castrol stayed clean. Much agree with the one who pointed out that oil change FREQUENCY is most important. Do the math and it would take a lot of " extra" oil changes to equal the cost of an overhaul...even one you do yourself...Same goes for paying a bit more for a Wix or quality oil filter.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thank you!

[@justaviewer111]

Great job. However, I'll save you the time on Pennzoil VS Amsoil ... Amsoil will win by a very small and mostly insignificant margin but at 5 or more times the price, the different isn't worth it.

[@rtaggs8178]

Use Pennzoil Platinum 10w 30 in a 2002 Buick Lesabre Custom with a 3.8 liter engine. It had a long life with AC Delco 10w 30. I continued to use the Mobil for a few changes and it ate it up. With the Pennzoil Platinum I hardly have to top it off every two weeks, unlike the Mobil or Quaker Ultimate I was using.

[@oveidasinclair982]

My 07 Toyota Camry is a known oil eater, Toyota used low tension rings on the pistons from 2006 to 2009. I purchased this car in March 2023 with 61,100 verified miles on the vehicle (real good CarFax report). When I change oil it takes about 4.8 quarts to get to the fill line on the dip stick and around 2200 miles I have to pour the rest of the oil left in the 5qt jug to get it back to the fill line. I did 3 oil changes on it so far (little over 10,000 I put on it over the last year), all three change sequences were identical. I use 5w-20, the oil pass through over the rings is minimal.

[@JasPlun]

It is sad the previous owner did not take part in the program Toyota had they could have had the ring issue fixed for free at Toyota. Thing is as time goes by it will get worse with a high risk of clogging up your Cat converters. It would be wise to have the rings changed. Wekll worth the money that engine with the new rings is a bullet proof engine that will easily last 300k miles if maintained. Do not wait too long because if you do the damage will get worse so get it in for repair before you have to rebuild that engine.@@oveidasinclair982

[@ShivaShakur]

​@@oveidasinclair982 What oil are you using? 5w20 what brand & type?

[@oveidasinclair982]

@@ShivaShakur Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20

[@06wrxRAR]

@@oveidasinclair982 previous 5w-30 oil was mobil 1 right?

[@scottchadbourne4759]

Hard to beat the chemistry vs speculation vs real life comparisons done by Todd of Project Farm. In my opinion, The Motor Oil Geek is an advanced step up in the details of how and why and very, very interesting!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks!

[@jabomiles6947]

Absolutely would like a video on the history of oil.

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@jeremystory6981]

These videos have taught me more 2 hours About all oil,,,,,,, Sure helps you connect the gaps,,,, Thanks a lot means a lot of people that work and build on engines

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.

[@paulholmes672]

Sir, Discovered your channel and intrigued. One question, I know for a fact that the original Mobil 1 from back in the 70's was a lot more synthetic than it is now as it was clear, loved using it as the viscosity range handled 0 to 100 degrees OAT with ease. I also vaguely remember the Popular Mechanics (or Science) article on its process as well as it's capabilities, such as full flow at 40 below, etc. I also, am pretty sure, at some time they decided to change the process to make it a bit cheaper, trying to get similar properties from the original straight refined oil, because of the "made from base oil (or NatGas)" labeling, and it looks pretty much like oil at this point. Synthetic oil USED to mean it was a substitute for petroleum based oils but not any more. The problem is you can not find any reference to this change in most historical research. Just wondering if you have seen anything about this in your 'travels' in regards to 'old' motor oils. Thank You!!!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for the question. We are going to cover that in the History of Motor Oil video.

[@jessegreenwood1956]

Yes! A history of motor oil would be fantastic! Great video!

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@02autogt]

Amsoil ALWAYS tests the best and Pennzoil is ALWAYS a close second... Had a 2011 Mustang GT that was drag raced regularly and used Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30. Car had over 225,000 miles on it when i got rid of it... Engine had never been opened up...

[@123suzukisamurai]

Just discovered your channel. Fascinating and very informative content. Thanks for these

[@MedoS-g9c]

Through my experience in the field of oils and my review of the comparisons and videos published on the Internet, I can say that this video is the best I have seen in my life. It touched on all the topics that affect those who work in the field of manufacturing oils.

[@aulharris2930]

Which do you use? I drive a VW jetta..

[@dyllanmarshall3506]

I would also believe the Quaker State Full Synthetic is a better oil then the Valvoline Restore and Protect based on the oxidation value. Also $22.87 5 quarts at Walmart the QSFS v 39$ 5 quarts Valvoline Restore and Protect. The Valvoline additive packaging will be a little stouter. However is it really? The Infenium in the Quaker State, probably doesn’t need all the additive. I wonder how the Quaker State 5w-30 full synthetic high mileage base oil would be against the 5w-30 pennzoil platinum.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Amsoil Vs Redline vs Royal Purple would be a sweet Video Lake 8:30 @The Motor Oil Geek

[@randykollman22]

Love your channel! Please do a video on history of oils 👌🏻

[@themotoroilgeek]

Noted!

[@wildmanofthewynooch7028]

Lake could you do a video on Valvoline's new oil Restore and Protect?

[@themotoroilgeek]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@jasonhavers5961]

​@@themotoroilgeekplease let us know your thoughts on Schaefer's oil products? I have asked this several times with no response. Please advise. Thank you. Need advice on Schaefer oil

[@edspencer7121]

What you see at the bottom of a 5 quart jug of Penzoil full synthetic anything after you perform an oil change will tell you whether or not you'd want to use Penzoil products agian. The last three oil changes I did on my own vehicles I noticed a fine black silt in the bottom of the jugs. Putting the cap back on the jug immediately after doing the service on the last two go arounds I let the empty jugs sit for a week then check the content after it has settled. The fine particulate I notice in the little bit of oil that settles is quite annoying.

[@buzzedalldrink9131]

way back before youtube I used Quaker State in my first car It turned black in a few days! there’s my analysis from 45 years ago! That’s the last time I ever used it!

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

The fact that it turned black is a good thing. Means it is holding the dirt, not leaving it in the engine.

[@buzzedalldrink9131]

@@scrambler69-xk3kv that should not happen in a week or so. It does not happen with other oil I’ve used. I read at one time there’s just too much wax in it, but I never bothered researching that I just use other oil.