Higher Hertz = Better Gamer? Analyzing Gaming Mouse Polling Rates | Is 4k Hz Worth it?

[@hawkittyhawk]

This was a really fun experiment to help me determine if upgrading to 4khz would’ve been worth it or not. I learned a lot and it was dope knowing Optimum Tech (HUGE KZbinr) was working on a similar video at the same time! Timestamps: 00:00 4000Hz?!? 0:22 Polling Rate & Latency Differences 0:44 Polling Rates Are Caps, Flicking vs Tracking? 1:31 Testing Method & Aimlabs 2:43 Test Results (SHOCKING!) 3:00 Do Latency Differences from Polling Rates Matter? 3:32 Higher Polling Rates Need a Powerful PC 4:26 Still Using a 500Hz Mouse? Watch This Part! 4:54 Resource: rtings.com (detailed mouse info) 5:12 Resource: Mouse Movement Recorder (MarkC) 5:51 Optimum Tech's (HUGE KZbinr) Polling Rate Video Mouse Movement Recorder: donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html Rtings: www.rtings.com/ Found this helpful/entertaining? Please consider supporting, thank you: kzbin.info/door/tp5ufZzbe3jH4dCGNh5N6gjoin Definitely. (lol)

[@peoplestopidevenme]

best bro I watch alot of vids because I have a low end and this one is gold you making of a research and a vid is amazing thank you♥

[@silentwitness536]

good content,good vid. Subbed.

[@hamburgers-nb2x]

so am i screwed at 1k hertz?

[@Hk7762Tube]

8Hz and WH's actually got me higher k/d, then 1Hz and no WH's... so clearly 8Hz is better! Do better!

[@DaveAlkema]

Great video, the one thing I would have changed about your testing is the DPI. For higher polling rates 1600 really should be the minimum, with myself and quite a few others running at 3200 dpi. You can always turn down your sensitivity in game and in Windows, so it'll still feel like 800 DPI, but will do a better job of saturating the polling rate. All that said, even on my Razer Viper Mini Signature Edition, I still run 1000hz because I don't think there's a noticeable difference due to my screen "only" running at 144hz. I put only in quiotes because for the games I play I rarely hit 144fps as I game with a 3080 on a 4k screen.

[@hawkittyhawk]

Thanks! And 100% agreed. I often switch between 800 and 1600 dpi. And I was just set to 800 when I started. I'm also thinking about doing this similar experiment with different DPIs too...

[@jordan-mn6yy]

On older dx9 games i feel theyre easier to control with 500hz. Cause at 1000hz no matter what dpi i set it to it always feels either really too sensitive or not sensitive enough, and i dont think my mouse is using an accelerator not really sure. Oh and windows mouse sensitivity is like 3rd from the lowest sensitivity.

[@WolfEmerald214]

As a gamer myself I am "very" picky with my equipment of choice. I have a wired Razer Viper as it is my only gaming mouse I have with a 4ms click rate and 1000hz polling rate. I was thinking about upgrading to a wireless mouse because I hate tugging on the wire but I kept seeing 4k polling rate mice as the same as you did. At first I thought upgrading to 4k was going to be the best choice but if it's going to effect my CPU then I don't see a reason to ever upgrade the polling rate. It's like companies thinks we all have $10,000 gaming rigs and wants us all to upgrade polling rates to make a buck or 2 from us LMAO

[@hawkittyhawk]

You're 100% right. Most pros are STILL playing at 500hz or 1000hz. 4000hz is NOT necessary at all in my opinion.

[@Taj_Rahine]

Did you try a mouse cord bungee ?

[@WolfEmerald214]

@@Taj_Rahine not yet but I might lol

[@hawkittyhawk]

I have in the past but it's been years because all my gaming mice are wireless now since the technology is so good. @@Taj_Rahine

[@Metarig]

If your computer has more 4 cores or more, then you won't see any drop in performance for games.

[@akaChriss4L]

Yeah ok, this confirmed too what I suspected. I'm going down to 500hz (Pulsar X2 mini). I'll take that battery life instead.

[@hawkittyhawk]

Good call. Many pros still play at 500hz too.

[@arminhg2978]

sir i have intel i7-13700 but and my pc while playing the new multiplayer game calls "finals" expriences stutters while playing it, when i reduce my mouse polling rate from 1000 to 500, the stutters are all gone and its smooth, i have 2 questions that i really would be appreciated if you help me undrestand, is this weird for a strong cpu to requires 500 polling rate instead of 1000 ? and the second question is putting polling rate to 500 would have any bad effect on multiplayer experiences or not ? 🙏

[@hawkittyhawk]

If it's not the CPU then it could be the game itself. I love the FINALS but it's new so that might be it. Playing on 500hz MAY have a tiny amount more input latency but it's in milliseconds so it's realistically won't make a difference. If it's working on 500hz I'd just play on that for a smoother game.

[@arminhg2978]

thank you so much for the info, i guess from the time i set this to 500, my fortnite's major stutters and rainbow six siege's major stutters have gone too, but they are now new games, but they get updates once in a while, do you think its weird with this cpu ? love to know your opinion about it 🌹@@hawkittyhawk

[@Mandydeth]

Very misleading here. You talk about 4k hz, but proceed to use a 2k hz mouse for your testing. You're also using a 240hz monitor. Try a 360hz or 540hz monitor with 4k polling, let us know where you're at after that. I already know the best aimers in the world are content with 1khz, and that's enough for me. A lot of this stuff falls into the same category as things like the Wooting 60he. None of the hardware is going to move you up a rank, but if you have disposable income, why not remove the doubt that your hardware is the problem? Nothing wrong with doing so, especially when many of the new 4k mice are cheaper than the Logi or Razer offerings anyway.

[@mennikin]

what DPI where you testing at? 1600+ DPI would make the most sense since at that polling rate you actually start utilizing the 4k/2k hz polling rate at all times.

[@hawkittyhawk]

Yep, 1600 dpi is my jam!

[@eyliano4381]

not a compatible informitions

[@MrDanny1911]

So TLDR: Everything after 1000hz is not really worth it?

[@hawkittyhawk]

Yep!

[@almeidachannel7121]

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[@hawkittyhawk]

Thanks! Me too!

[@almeidachannel7121]

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[@ulaloo26]

Thank you so much! Very informative video! new subscriber here

[@hawkittyhawk]

Thanks! I appreciate it! And I'm glad it helped!

[@cipratac17]

Nice video, i really like your content!

[@hawkittyhawk]

Thanks!

[@Z_Belphemon]

I'm running 7600dpi, 8k polling rate with a 240hz. Holy fuck it feels good. Also my 360 cm is 25

[@hawkittyhawk]

Dang that's crazy, nice!

[@Z_Belphemon]

@@hawkittyhawk thanks legend.

[@hawkittyhawk]

Anytime! @@Z_Belphemon

[@DashMatin]

holly heck

[@jimmynguyen3970]

just curious? do you use 1k or 2k on ur GPX2. i have one and not sure if 2k would help or just be a battery drainer

[@hawkittyhawk]

2k. Battery life is still amazing at 2k and if you're not getting stutters in game when switching between 1k and 2k, then I'd say use 2k.

[@donatopirrod]

I think you have made a big mistake. 800* dpi is NOT enough to react at peak performance of 4000 hz. You will need at least 1600dpi or 3200dpi. You can test this with razers software.

[@hawkittyhawk]

Yes you are correct and I apologize if I made an error. Thanks for sharing!

[@donatopirrod]

@@hawkittyhawk No, no problem. Just if you can, try 4k or 8k with 3200dpi. And share if you feel a difference. I do feel a slight difference, but i am unsure if it is a relevant difference, hence why i am looking around still 😂. To me, if our games run at under 400fps, i am unsure how more hz than 1000 could logically make a difference. Just cant make sense of it myself.

[@hawkittyhawk]

For sure. I wasn't planning on getting the 8k dongle but people have a lot of questions so I'm reconsidering it now. @@donatopirrod

[@Metarig]

In the split second I checked it out, the 4000 pulling rate really stood out. But my guess is you're so dialed into it that it's not gonna mess with your aim for a bit, at least.

[@hawkittyhawk]

It's a fraction of a millisecond difference from anything over 1000 Hz. BUT, like I mentioned in the video, there's a visual clarity difference with higher hertz. Since my main gaming is Warzone and enemies can be hundreds of meters away, that extra clarity is REALLY nice and I'm currently using my GPX 2 at 4000 Hz and love it.

[@sakama0212]

bro wtf i use gprox2 4000hz and hz stuck at 125 i don’t know why…

[@tiagomiguel8496]

Logitech GHub update with 4K Hz support for Super Light 2, new firmware update too :)

[@hawkittyhawk]

YEP!!! I might do another video on it...

[@luca296-luca]

Is normal that i feel better with 500hz on console?

[@Master_trac]

is fast swipe delay a polling rate problem ??cuz my logitech m90 makes me feel like i am swiping in slow motion when i swipe fast to check my in game corners

[@hawkittyhawk]

In your case, yes it's the polling rate. The Logitch M90 can ONLY go to a maximum polling rate of 125hz. When you move your mouse fast, the higher the polling rate will go up, as it does with all mice. So you're reaching the limit of 125hz when you swipe quickly and that's why it feels like it's in slow motion. The mouse is literally not updating fast enough with your movement. The only solution unfortunately is to buy another mouse. I'd recommend looking for a gaming mouse with 1000hz, which is very common today. If you're on a tight budget, 500hz will still be a big upgrade from your current M90 but will be slightly less smooth on faster swipes than 1000hz. Hope this helps!

[@Master_trac]

@@hawkittyhawk thanks bro much respect you really helped me

[@hawkittyhawk]

Yea no problem man. All this stuff is a headache to figure out so I totally understand. Good luck! @@Master_trac

[@Master_trac]

@@hawkittyhawk yeah that's true thanks again

[@murraymcm1]

I guess shape is king after all

[@hawkittyhawk]

Indeed!

[@EpochBattles]

I use razer viper I prefer 500hz instead of 1000hz, if you are playing a processor-heavy game, mouse and keyboard software and over 500hz polling rate puts a lot of load on the processor and causes you to experience sudden fps drops in-game.

[@hay2697]

True

[@luca296-luca]

Do you mean that for heavy games with bad processor it's better to use 500 than 1000?

[@AnkurSingha-u5s]

Bro my mouse is like 150 hz max a cheap mouse(tested in a website it doesn't have a software), would a 4khz mouse make a HUGE difference in valorant ?

[@ivansentanu3498]

Yes😊

[@lithinjoe5565]

I have a 125hz mouse will upgrading to 1000hz help me in valorant

[@razerium4416]

yes it will, 125 is pretty bad

[@KikkerTech]

What is the best polling rate for fortnite ps5?

[@hawkittyhawk]

1k Hz is great.

[@KikkerTech]

@@hawkittyhawk alr bc i heard that 125hz makes it feel more like pc, is that true?

[@iTzGaMEtiME1]

Great video, I got in an argument with someone because they said they bought a $200 4khz mouse so they would have better aim . The amount of change is so tiny that it wouldnt even be able to notice or make you go from shit to pro. you know what i mean lol.

[@rayyybu7348]

nice clickbait, title says "4k" while u only used crappy 2k from logitech that is known to not perform good

[@zombieimpact2790]

Lol, there is no noticeable difference between 2000hz and 4000hz polling rate. Logitech's gaming mice are damn good.

[@Wookuny]

​@@zombieimpact2790He's mad, and yeah, the fact that this mouse is very good, and used among pros

[@histxmi9579]

hi man, no hate just constructive criticism. COPY OPTIMUM TECH

[@histxmi9579]

your review is based on ''feelings''.

[@H0tCh0c0-gr3qe]

hawk tuah