HIGHLIGHTS: All Blacks v Wales (2017)

Check out all the best moments from the All Blacks season-ending 33-18 win over Wales in Cardiff.
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[@teem2395]

Rieko is the business - World Rugby player of the year. Sam Cane sensational.

[@Tordah]

monster performances from Sam Cane and Rieko Ioane

[@Simonmoke71]

SAM WAS JUST OUTSTANDING.

[@ohmon]

Too good!!

[@ANTZMMANREFIX]

Few people aren't interested in him because of his forward statute but he is simply a beast.

[@hailee2005]

Simonmoke Simonmoke I agree! He's finally getting the credit he deserves, he is a monster on defence, the hits were audible

[@DarkJonas33]

Sam Cane was immense. Pretty sure the ball carrier went backwards in the majority of his tackles.

[@ethanschmidt9038]

Reiki is a good shot for breakthrough player and IRB player of the year, he has got it all

[@Simonmoke71]

Ethan Schmidt HE GOT BREAK THROUGH PLAYER OF THE YEAR. WELL DONE, GOOD CALL.

[@becauseimbatman7240]

Rieko Ioane is becoming more of a speedy beast😂

[@teebrinner5939]

Is this guy the best winger in the game ?

[@nikoragallagher4452]

Goes to show what happens when you take speed training from 7s and bring it to the XV.

[@kiwikicker9263]

Ioane for World Player of the Year

[@betabyfar87]

I agree it would be close with him and Folau who was also outstanding in the Championship

[@kyman3843]

Reikos stats demolish folaus

[@kyman3843]

Reiko leads in: Defender's beaten Most meters gained Most meters gain post contact And I'm sure he's close if not in the lead with most tries scored. If not it is folau. Folau is way out classed

[@taiingoaphillips9481]

Mstrift Namikaze nah bro his Google works fine he's just a salty butthurt Aussie...no surprises there...I mean you can't blame him really the ABz have owned the wannabies for a long time now especially when it comes to Bledisloe what is it now 14 or 15yrs without Bledisloe and 14 without BILL...would drive any sane person cuckoo lol

[@taiingoaphillips9481]

As I flush the shitter after taking a oh mighty dump...the sound the water makes...somewhat reminds me of the state of Aus rugby as a whole...total utter ....S..H..I..T..E.... hahahahahahahaha

[@manroopsingh1602]

Ioane and Naholo were on fire tonight! Great way to end the undefeated tour and the year off.

[@hetoc2243]

Getting used to watching our men kick ass with 14 players. Reiko continues to light Sh*t up 🔥🔥🔥 Surely got to be world player of the year.

[@rukaks]

Blaze Ryder yeah could be right there bro, but I’d still rather have them all on the field 😂🤣

[@JohnLewiz1]

Sam Cane's defence in the first half when Wales had all the possession, outstanding.

[@samsonhoeta5727]

Way to do it allblacks end the year with a bang👌👌#no1inworldrugby#allblacksfolife

[@niueanlaho]

Congrats All Blacks,what a way to end the tour with a win,hard luck Wales it was a tough game

[@kuruki213]

This season will do wonders for the All Blacks heading into the next world cup. They have for different circumstances been forced to play without key experienced players and on field leaders like Dagg, B Smith, Franks, Rettalick and Coles. The All Blacks will now have confidence in starting any of 5 props with the return of Moody and Franks. The locking department behind Rettalick and Whitelock is still up for grabs with Barrett seemingly failing to lock the door on Romano and Tuipolotu, however the competition for that third position is a good problem to have. Sam Cane has just well and truly put to bed any further question marks around who our number one 7 is. There is no question and Sam Cane is fast becoming the rock of that All Black pack alongside Rettalick, Read and Whitelock. Squire will be hitting his straps heading into Japan and Vaea Fifita and Ardie Savea will provide real impact from the bench. A Smith has put his troubles behind him in terms of his on field performances however TJ Perenara has just dropped off the ball a little bit leaving a real question mark in our stocks at 9. This is even further compounded by the lack of genuine gametime given to our backup 10. B Barrett has been off the boil since the Lions tour, his running game has taken a vacation only to replaced by forced passes, flat at best and a whole lot of aimless kicking. Lima Sopoaga hasn't gone on to prove he has what it takes mostly through lack of opportunities and should Barrett fall over we will be in real trouble. Alot of this issue rides on how well Damien Mackenzie slots into 10 for the Chiefs. Richie Mounga has the skills but will struggle to find enough All Blacks exp to be a real contender for the WC in Japan. The Midfield is solid without being spectacular at this stage, however there is some good young players coming through with Laumape, Goodhew and even J Barrett. The outside backs will take care of themselves, if everyone is fit come Japan it will be more about who deoesn't get picked then who does. Ioane has cemented himself at 11. Naholo is quickly making his case for the same at 14, however the creativity and exp of Dagg will make that an interesting battle next year. Ben Smith, J Barrett, D mac and Havili have the 15 jersey covered and Nehe Milner Skudder if fit will just give Hansen a welcome headache. The biggest issues for the All Blacks going forward are 1. Discipline. 2. The struggle they have been having against rushing defence. 3. The lack of skill set that has crept into their performances since the departure of Mick Byrne. 4. How long they can continue to play with so little ball and get away with it. The All Blacks want to play tempo and chance their arm, sometimes they just need to play clever basic rugby to get themselves in the right area of the park and build pressure.

[@samsonhoeta5727]

Kuruki Chur oii stfu👌👏👐😉

[@KiwiGraggle]

A good test match this as we all know. Even though NZ are building a new squad, next year I think we will see just how good this NZ side is going to be for 2019 and this tight Autumn Series will be put completely to rest next year, comprehensively I feel for NZ. This year, a bit hit and miss in my eyes for the All-Blacks. The Lions Tour as far as I am concerned NZ should have won, so I was disappointed with NZ for not actually dispatching The Lions, regardless of what people think in the UK, NZ should have won the entire series, period. But the way they played as well was slightly less intensive than usual. I feel The Lions got away, Lions fans of course would not think that, but then again most of them are Pompous English who think that. Scotland's game last week which I missed as I was in Brazil getting hammered and being with my friends enjoying life, sounded like a brilliant game and although the Scottish will think they should have won, like all these Northern Hemisphere sides think when it is a tight match with NZ, well some news for you. NZ are capable of shutting a tight game out now without panic and as close as Scotland were, ultimately, had this been the All-Blacks side you will see next year, more in tone with the side, then Scotland would not have come close. Also Scotland will peak next year and will not be in contention for the next World Cup, period. They just do not have the quality coming through. We see this every 5 years or so, Scotland or Ireland, etc, etc will have a good side that may be capable of beating NZ and in Irelands case they have beaten us, but it lasts for a few years then they are back to square one being stomped by NZ. England is different, more consistent and genuine contenders to take that rank 1 spot in the future. NZ have a very, very special side developing that is ahead of the rest of the World and this was the year to beat us Scotland, Wales, etc, etc, because next year and into 2019 you will not be as close as you think. England deserve that 2nd spot, so the gap between rank 1 and 2 in comparison to the rest of the rugby World is probably to far for the rest to bridge before the next World Cup. England just have a side full of Pacific players of course, so they are not really England at all, but even so, they will be a massive threat to NZ superiority in the coming years, very much so I feel. Long hard year for NZ, enjoy your break, you are my heroes. Enjoy your summer back home in NZ, and see you in 2018.

[@beaup8312]

I remember Reiko's official All blacks debut, full of nerves - didn't really get involved or own his position, unsure and poor feild awareness and light on defense. So naturally I was skeptical adding to the fact that Julian Savea was outpicked from Reiko. But Steve Hansen said from the start this kid has potential and needs some time in the boots at this world class to grow. Now he is an absolute superstar and critical asset to the ABs. Look how his speed is almost unmatched on his marked defenders. Adding to his recent show of breaking tackles and strongarm defense. He needs just the slightest room and can make something beautifull from his insane speed. Must be so hard to mark him on defense.

[@yayamuzikaurelsaid2786]

Classe et fluidité juste magnifique a voir jouer les blacks☺️☺️

[@carl1095]

1:08 "They were just running backwards" lol

[@CRyan71]

Ya the NZ players knew exactly what they were doing. Especially the guy on the right. He was looking right at the runner.

[@fitnessfxone925]

That looked like a good game! Wales r one of the teams that I hope keep stepping it up.

[@christiaanbotes6404]

All Blacks playing rugby as it is meant to be played!

[@31titan70]

Man it feels like yesturday this Ioane kid just start his sevens career what an amazing player he is and the scariest part of him is he's body is not mature yet into men standard and that would be deadly for the international game..

[@wadesharp11]

Too good...again..beauty🕺🏼👌🏽✊️

[@davsavchav]

Hallam Amos is the only one who anticipated Rieko making that freakish line break in midfield

[@Baratheon.]

0:48 that play pass by Naholo, next level strats

[@hasta_la_vista_baby6511]

that pass 👌

[@hunterkid5939]

Great match of rugby

[@elfedmorris595]

Greatest moment in rugby.Kobus Wiese shattering Derwyn Jones' jaw

[@Youre]

Freiko surely has to win player of the year...

[@Youre]

LIGER ZERO Hey bud how ya been?

[@joeblack1098]

LIGER ZERO compare the stats..... nuff said

[@kazaekapri5892]

LIGER ZERO damn you got problems son. Go sort your self out the more you type the more you sound insecure over a sporting game.

[@lagaafamasaga2566]

You must be a troll? You know New Zealand have way more mins in their rivalry 😂

[@lagaafamasaga2566]

LIGER ZERO Okay that is true. So Australia is as good as their last game. 51-24 loss to Scotland.

[@timmyturner5479]

When you're mad early but you have nothing to comment.

[@theopensider7462]

Reiko POTY ALL DAY.Barnes AB fan of the year

[@slayerbot1394]

Reiko Ioane! Dude is a freak

[@niceguyandy]

Wales needs a big shake up and soon. Was a great game of rugby in the first half then everything fell apart in the second. Well done NZ, maybe one day we’ll break the losing streak.

[@gilessb]

A classic homer from Wayne Barnes. ABs did well to beat 16 men.

[@StewartVlogs]

Wow done boys!

[@fandedieudo]

I don't think Savea could return with Ioane and Naholo at this level

[@Simonmoke71]

fandedieudo BUT WHAT A BACK UP PLAYER JUST IN CASE.

[@JJ-xp6mr]

Naholo can’t secure a solid starting position because he’s a liability on defence. He makes up for it in his attack but until he sorts it out he’s still going to be playing second fiddle to skudder and whomever else pops up.

[@odongocronk9693]

I'm contented lookin forward to see what Ireland's goin to bring as well as England '018

[@hamperedlakers3704]

Yess boys

[@AhTu1306]

Why can't you replay the tries the Welsh scored man.....

[@Alkhoholic]

Watching the ABs play is like watching the ancient Roman army do battle, completely dominant and masterful.

[@RealmofGenghisKhan]

Romans? Nah more like the Mongols.

[@JrRyder44]

All Blacks with the grand aka on their end of the year tour. ABs all day

[@thenewzealandmaoriallblack5103]

Lets go All Black's

[@smilodontiger5675]

Once I saw it was an English referee (Wayne Barnes), I knew it would be Roger Quittenden all over again.

[@tjhill9411]

Aza knew it was on look at that smile camera angle hahaha

[@BenDover-uk5wk]

Wayne Barnes reffing is just as bad as Justin Marshall's commentary...😂😂

[@forsakenoce3687]

Reiko the 🐐

[@delailama736]

Just standing their ground. Giiit Faaaaarked

[@dopeboyzzz659]

Anyone else think the yellow card was a weird call?

[@Simonmoke71]

竜也 NO , ITS BEEN THE NORM ALL YEAR, BUT ISN'T IT GREAT THAT WE CAN STILL SCORE A TRY WITH 14.

[@petespirals]

it would be weird if weird yellow cards didn't happen when all blacks play british

[@aiurea1]

Referees clearly suport northern teams now, I dont know why, it's a pitty

[@Olivierstreet]

100%!! There wasn't a ruck anymore, Sam had all the rights. In a similar instance when Sam was back on, a Welsh player was on the ground with the ball and no protection so Sam was about to go after the ball and Wayne was like "No, you've lost"... I was so confused. He was just gifting Wales possession.

[@catherinelynnfraser2001]

Sonny Bill and Reiko and team. NZ is finding team.

[@archiebunker4108]

In the first All Blacks try one of the passes in the build up looked close to being forward.

[@rukaks]

Hamish Dawson noticed that too, A Smith’s pass?

[@lalonesko9152]

Sbw dub done good to get himself into the game , supporting and into set plays and making some good meters , and ma nigga cocane , almost like a ritchie putting his body on the line , and that road runner beep beep beep reiko speedy gunner runner ....I bet he's got heaps of speeding tickets 🎥in this game lol....running on hot wheels🚔🚔

[@oscarwhyte3811]

God poor welsh but great game from the allblacks

[@marshmallowmorgmorg9549]

That game could've been much more different if Dan biggar didn't give that interception pass.

[@mattkimhan]

Wales... Wow what a tremendous performance even without Warburton. If this if the level, and I expect they will get better, they will be playing at in the RWC then Australia are in for some real shit.

[@disco1974ever]

AB's win 33-8 (revised for ref errors)

[@XxRemixerzxX]

Another idiotic nz fan, like all new zealand fans...

[@disco1974ever]

"idiotic"? Is that the Welsh word for "Invincible"? If Welsh fans knew more about Rugby than kiwi fans, how come one of them hasn't managed to coach a Welsh team to anything other than seasonal whipping Boys. ABs just use Wales to experiment with drills to use against the real opposition...England

[@mattkimhan]

If only D Mack caught the pass from Naholo. Would've been a classic AB move but oh well

[@SuperEdge67]

Ione was superb........but Sam Cane deserved Man of the Match.

[@JS-kq7tn]

Clean sweep go the mighty all blacks better than our kiwis league team

[@gordondarker916]

its like i always said there should have been more welsh on the lions

[@luchiboy]

That cutey @ 3:55 though...

[@vanzylcronje1340]

Can the New Zealand commentators just be a little less biased??

[@keytools197]

Swampy played well for wales

[@zezzee5475]

With a thumbnail like that I thought Wales won.. Thank fuck they didn't.

[@tuameliefakahua8101]

And people still wonder why Julian Savea is no longer an All Black. #WorldRugbyPlayerOfTheYearRiekoIoane

[@nacanielitupou5457]

Julian Savea is history. He is all about running over whereas Rieko Ioane runs over, run through, run around and can catch you from way off.

[@tuameliefakahua8101]

Nacanieli Tupou Exactly bro he's too one dimensional. Still has a bit of time to improve his game, but I think Rieko has sealed the 11 black jersey for a long time.

[@Simonmoke71]

WELL DON'T GET TO COMFY BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO ALL BLACKS RUGBY YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHO'S AROUND THE CORNER.

[@JVIMTM]

Seems like the ref wanted wales to score by penalising abs in front of thier line twice when clearly williams and whitelock where both on their feet in an onside position. I think they shld have had ref frm the sth who has just refd a whole season.

[@Joker-yw9hl]

0:58 is a penalty. NZ are the best team in the world but they always get away with stuff like this. Only commenting because I'm amazed the commentators are so biased

[@charliejones1711]

Wales has so much chances to get tries but they keep stuffing it up in the end

[@Legend-qb3cv]

I have a promising youngster keep it up

[@hakopawihone-solomon]

All Blacks last game

[@Simonmoke71]

hakopa wihone-solomon rest hard brothers, here comes england

[@pla6454]

1:00 defensive players dont have to drop to their knees and wave the kicker thru - theyre allowed to hold their line. Rubbish refereeing.

[@bwhit6541]

Clean sweep!

[@Simonmoke71]

....AGAIN....

[@deborahbarnes7033]

Yer but you faced the weakest northern hemisphere teams! Ireland and England would of pushed you close if not beaten you.

[@bwhit6541]

deborah barnes and you played our weakest abs team. England and Ireland, I don't think so after those last couple of performances.

[@taffyducks544]

Bloody hilarious reading some of these comments about how bad Wales were...yet the truth is Wales dominated the entire game for except for about 15 minutes in the second half...could and should have easily beat them, yet the Welsh do what they do best, find a way to lose the game. Also, Gatland and the majority of his coaching staff should be sacked now, They consistently pick players on Reputation instead of quality. How the fck does players such as halfpenny, Roberts, AWJ, Francis get in the team!?

[@asznee6984]

BOOMfa

[@albertbremner8173]

People in the Northern Hemisphere just don't get it. They are in denial.

[@archvermin]

Test rugby doesn't return until February next year. Just knock me out and wake me up then

[@nospyingundercover6104]

cracks are showing now Wayne Smith has left!

[@TheNiceytube]

Great match. Wayne actually had a good game, thank goodness, I thought his management of the scrums in particular was really good, but the chumminess with the players, the little touches, the calling by first name, it’s unnecessary and frankly nauseating. All Blacks can finish and that’s the gaping difference. Peace Love you are a blatant hater.

[@rukaks]

I’m ready to get rid of Wyatt Crocket. Close to leading the penalty count for the year despite being a sub, and put the ref in a yellow card frame of mind, which ended up coming out of the pocket for something that didn’t even warrant a penalty. He’s fortunate Moody is injured and there are few others that are deemed ready for international rugby, I expect

[@bwhit6541]

rukaks agreed bro an his hands aren't the best either.

[@tyonamin]

rukaks Hey Steve. Didn't know you were on youtube.

[@BenDover-uk5wk]

That yellow card was deserved, he came in from the side and that far out from the try line definitely a yellow

[@rukaks]

Ben Dover that's probably the right call, but Barnes' own rationale was that Whitelock was too late, other man was already over the ball (his words, not mine) suggesting that his entry and positioning were ok. Either way, I'd still rather not have Crockett in the team

[@rukaks]

Mackem Slinger sorry cuz, don't know Steve, or is there are joke there that I'm missing? 🤷🏾‍♂️😉😊

[@charlesharmer101]

Ok so whos faster than reiko the answer nobody

[@randyviper388]

Reiko ioanes cockiness and arrogance is going to bite him in the ass one day. Out of all the blacks, hes the one bad mouthing after scoring... steve hansen probably wouldnt be happy

[@yakob9672]

his arrogance really showed today... lmao fuck up

[@corez_x8378]

randy viper You mad because hes the best? haha

[@randyviper388]

Im just saying the all blacks arent normally like that and all you fuckers swearing, the all blacks are the best team in the world but no doubt they have the worst fans in the world

[@randyviper388]

Uncle Mase are yOu blind buddy? Do you know what arrogant means?

[@yakob9672]

randy viper how is he

[@joeskienz]

Rieko Ioane was the absolute best player on the park. Everyone else in the AB's looked lazy and slow compared to him (especially Beauden ffs). Deserves best player of the year easily.

[@Simonmoke71]

EXCEPT FOR SAM CANE WHO WAS EQUALLY OUTSTANDING IF NOT BETTER

[@rJBowker007]

joeskienz I thought Sam Cane had a huge game, his defense was massive

[@giorgikhuberashvili2152]

I think Georgia are better than Wales now😁😁😁

[@Bacon56ful]

Horrible video quality

[@isaacpritchard2606]

Scotland cant win against 13 wales against 14 northern hem rugbys lookin awesome

[@Maxarobeli]

სასტიკი მანქანა იოანე

[@recognizedeez2733]

stal ker ... that's exactly what I was thinking too.

[@MrMonikura]

AB played poorly, going by the AB standard, they should have have Wales a true hiding! 50 plus at least!

[@niopasene7381]

Where is that old man Adam.is he dead. hahaha. 14 men and can still score a try. hahaha

[@BenDover-uk5wk]

He's up there 👆

[@islandjazz2240]

Some of Wayne Barnes's calls are the same as poo on my 1yr old's nappies - there is the ever presence of a repugnant stench which doesn't belong to the nappies - but are there because of bad and erroneous decisions made by biased refs like Barnssy. He should retire soon being around for such a very very very loooooooooong time. He'll be a great Ref betweeen a boxing match between North Korea's Leader and USA's president.

[@cowboy7354]

i dont understand what is the reason you should play against all blacks, its already boring to watch how they always win -_-

[@karenhodgson4065]

First

[@CODY1GUN]

Commentary Bias AF 1:06

[@Trickshot72]

Wales have the lowest Rugby IQ in top flight rugby, and possibly the worst hands. Every time they move the ball, I'm just waiting for them to drop it. If they were the only team on the field, they would have to work hard to scrape a win.

[@NZTrumpFan]

Whitelock shouldn't have got a yellow card

[@islandjazz2240]

then he'll be biased to Trump coz they look the same?...might think the same as well as.....bye Barnssy- go away or words to that effect son...

[@johnjones549]

Wales crap , getting worse with every game, Gatland has to go, look at Scotland, totally outstanding.

[@Simonmoke71]

WALES WERE NOT TO BAD PAL, THEY WEREN'T CRAP, PLAYED A LOT BETTER THAN I THOUGHT

[@XxRemixerzxX]

to be honest nz played crap all game until the last 30 minutes

[@notmyrealname7738]

As a welshman (living in NZ) i had great hopes for this game, mainly because the all blacks were playing shockingly bad for the first half. But as always everybody forgets why the All blacks are the best in the world. Its not because they have the best kickers, Runners or scrummers in the business (though some are clearly fantastic) but because they can just keep going and going and going while everyone else gets sloppy. This performance felt the Ali rope-a-dope, When the all blacks suddenly unleashed a massive counter attack second half.

[@kazeveready4915]

I'm Welsh but even if realise Wales are total garbage and we will be lucky in beating Italy in the six nations next year. The coaching staff have to go,yesterday's game showed were Wales need to go to improve but we'll never do so while we continue to pick cuthbert,priestland,halfpenny,roberts and Amos instead of players like giles and hewitt..mark my words once we start actually playing players who are attacking and can finish of moves with trys and make things out of nothing we will continue with the same old thing the coaching staff say which is basically we need to learn how to finish of a move when we have a chance. We hear it all the time when we play Australia or new Zealand beginning to depress me now.. need a certain coach from the scarlets who knows how to play rugby

[@Adam-jx8td]

So lucky

[@rukaks]

Adam exactly what I thought! If it had been refereed fairly and the All Blacks hadn’t made the odd error here and there, the ABs could’ve cracked 50+ on them again. They played really well, but Wales were so lucky!

[@whoopsya532]

Oh Adam. Luv u hunxx

[@dylan9434]

We love you adam🖖

[@CODY1GUN]

Fuck the dumb one-eyed kiwi’s on here, they were lucky And to say players like sonny bill & that front rower were awesome is pretty fucking ignorant,keep sugar coating over bad play you ignorant Fucks 🖕

[@hicktownguy2]

you love a school kid pretending to be a oldman lol look at his channel

[@bossman7144]

The only new zealand team I watch for footy. Warriors are shite.. And the kiwis league team welllll........

[@CODY1GUN]

Good win but seriously need to look at getting rid of sonny bill, and some of the dumb play By the AB’s Ppl here happy they won but it’s sugar coating over what is really annoying and dumb rugby By some of the players. Wales really served it up to the All-blacks Way to make it an entertaining game.

[@elchaposione5808]

crack up seeing the wallabies lose to scotland by 30 + lol

[@thaboshai6239]

bad referee

[@fadeotara3976]

Mckenzie needs to be droped

[@Andrew_Yeo]

They are developing him to be a utility back to inject pace when he comes on at 50-60 min, like they did with Barrett. I think he will be better in that role. We still have Ben Smith and Izzy Dagg to come back.

[@hetoc2243]

andrew yeo yeah man that's the position I see him going for.

[@rukaks]

If I remember right, Hansen had him pegged as a 1st five, and after a particularly good performance at the back, made some comment about having to rethink DMac’s best position. With him playing at 10 for the Chiefs in 2018, I guess we’ll see soon after that where he’ll fit in. Taking what was once B Barrett’s position (bench utility and late game pocket rocket) would be an interesting symmetry

[@rJBowker007]

Ru Monga agree, he’s like a flea in a bottle...all over the place. Missing Ben Smith big time and jordie

[@Jordan-mq4wj]

He's a great player not as good as ben smith though.

[@rhysjones3867]

Some individual brilliance from certain kiwis but wakes were by far the better team. Probably the first time iv said this and probably ever will but new Zealand were lucky against wales today. We lost the game, all blacks didn't win it

[@TheJiggamah]

Can I have your coke dealer? Your either fucked off your brains or your wife just left you

[@Youre]

You're*

[@andrewmackinnon7918]

far out you must be welsh I'd say

[@rhysjones3867]

You're* you missed my *wales or do you only do *you're

[@rhysjones3867]

Andrew Mackinnon not humble, you must be a kiwi I'd say

[@disco1974ever]

Northern Teams? Good for money I guess