Haley Adams || Natty or Not

[@Amanda_Hari]

I do hope people stay for the whole video!! It’s a really interesting and thoroughly thought through perspective on what kind of difference a realistic amount of strength improvement could make for Haley.

[@hillerfit]

Amanda is a true homie! Yes I did try to pull people in on this one, guilty!

[@richfroningsr4387]

Interesting analysis! Just know that Haley is aware/ focused/ working on said weaknesses. Wait for it!!

[@thebarbellspin]

I think the takeaway from this video is that Hiller has been the one crunching the numbers behind the scenes for Brian Friend the whole time.

[@Gamer1000-y2g]

😅right!

[@hillerfit]

Brian Friend has entered the chat

[@MikeHalpin]

::cough 🙋🏼‍♂️ cough:: I guess I missed some things while traveling.

[@Gamer1000-y2g]

This video was actually really good! All in, we are rooting for you Haley!!!🎉

[@hillerfit]

THANK YOU!! Haley is a stud

[@Mullethead]

Natty or Not episode on Fraser?

[@maretteboyle2549]

I *loved* this video…. You should make a series called “If you attacked your weaknesses” and showed specific athletes and how they would hypothetically do, if they shored up weaknesses like this!

[@JBoudreaux0712]

Great vid. Garret comment had me laughing out loud. My wife asked me what I was doing. She heard fun in the background.

[@djsgolfer714]

Dude you’re like a CrossFit Rainman. Love these videos. Keep up the good work!

[@Heisenberg-qo7gu]

Props Hiller! I think this is a very interesting topic to discuss so thanks for your analysis. A more accurate answer to the question you ask, how would an athlete perform with a 10% increase to their strength or conditioning (or whatever performance metric), would include a multitude of variables and generate many different outcomes. In general, I agree with the rankings you provide for Haley in the 2019 - 2022 games. How cool would it be if someone in the CF community created a multivariate regression model (non-linear) or stochastic model (nondeterministic) to provide a more accurate prediction or at least provide some insight in how an athlete may perform better/worse. Maybe I'm ignorant and coaches already use a mathmatical approach to training their athletes?

[@leetroche]

another great video braddah.. she will continue to get stronger and how you broke it down, we can clearly see a podium opportunity in the future.

[@WODZombie]

Such a cool video. Now do one if Colten Mertens was taller.

[@baxtermystery]

Margin of height increase? Is he 5'6" for the model or taller?

[@stang93ful]

The fact that Haley is still always in top five or ten at the games every year is unreal knowing what her weakness is. She’s an absolute beast. If she can get herself a lot stronger? She can absolutely podium and challenge to win it all. I really hope I see it happen. She’s my favorite athlete and I’ve always wanted to see her reach her goals.

[@clintiacuone1703]

Maybe a slight controversial take but I feel like if she’s truely serious about getting stronger she needs to take atleast a full season off to just focus on improving that side of her game. Yes she could and is probably improving a bit by training that quality concurrently alongside everything else but a full year of just doing that would probably help her a lot

[@passleycraig]

One of your top 5 best videos. 🙌👏👍

[@ronsutton7614]

Great show, love Haley hope she gets the strength she needs

[@meredithjones8593]

This was a really interesting exercise. Thanks for crunching the numbers!

[@hillerfit]

For the record. Appearance isn’t a dead giveaway here nor is the strength. That’s how many make claims without doing much research. It’s drastic changes in those that are HUGE giveaways.

[@jhorgos12]

Plenty of people on roids who look like absolute shit

[@santiagoferrari1973]

Next do "Kari Pearce Not Natty or Not Natty"

[@canyonmoody7931]

What about doing an analysis of some of the athletes that tested positive already, working backwards, is there cases that could have been made prior to popping?

[@SevAnsdigg-123]

Who ever could follow this entire thing is a hero.

[@chasewheeler6446]

10% grip increase woulda helped on “the Capital”

[@hillerfit]

Thought about that. Next closest competitor way a minute away and she was already top 5

[@chasewheeler6446]

I was at the games, and watching her grip die right at the end will never leave my mind, brutal. You’re right tho, the finished looked worse than it was.

[@paulwilliams6827]

Agree Haley Adam’s Terminator cardio wise but if she just concentrated in that 10% she would be the bollox 💪🏾 Be interesting if she moves from the barn to address the strength with possibly HWPO with her mate Mal ? Watch this space… but brownie points for a brilliant review on the potential based on you number crunching no easy feat 👏 Great content Paul🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@thehopelesscrossfitter]

So this is by far one of my favorite videos so far. I have said the only thing g holding haley ba k is her lack of strength. She is a grunt worker and that is how she got her points and did so well. Imo she needs to make her focus an entire off season just strength. Look at what Craig Richey has done when he turned from doing 100% crossfit to olympic lifting the numbers skyrocketed.

[@aaronsanspeller7719]

great video as usual !

[@yashhgami]

If she isn't natural, it's likely peptides to recover so she can train harder/more frequency. She has the ⚽ player build.

[@rickl4159]

Are peptides illegal?

[@hillerfit]

@@rickl4159 Most are illegal. The ones they know of anyway

[@patricklang7162]

Clickbait away. I love that you draw me in. Very cool to look at something this way. Thank you for putting in all that work.

[@hillerfit]

I gotchu Patrick!

[@marlows47]

I think you should have bumped her up in The Capitol too using a lot of your logic. Those carries were heavy for her. It was not the conditioning. I think you'll then find with reconfiguring, she places second.

[@FitnessSheriff]

What program do you use to edit? Most programs have a 'horizontal flip frame' one click feature so nothing looks backwards. That would blow minds for viewers. *The squat rack is on the other side!!!*

[@passleycraig]

You should do a similar video analyzing Sam Briggs in order to help support Haley 2.0. Briggs transformed a lot of the years without lossing her cardio

[@ellieb445]

Are you going to do a Mal O’Brien Natty or not video ? 🧐

[@ljdecker546]

This is very well done. She's such a likeable, seemingly high character kid, which makes her hard not to root for. She is a completely elite CF athlete whose only real hole seems like it could be fixed with the right game plan. Rich said he only eats 3000 calories with all those workouts, whereas Fraser said he eats 7000. Illegal substances aside, how much benefit could Haley gain from adding 1000 calories a day to her diet? I would think its hard for her to gain a lot of strength in part because of her metabolism. I bet she lifts enough for it to be considered a crazy strength cycle for a normal person, but if she's still doing metabolic conditioning for hours a day, maybe its just a calorie thing?

[@jessehicks1160]

No more TRT vids? Curious on your progress

[@kerrymcintyre9024]

This was a super interesting video. Even if it was just a "guess", it was a well thought out one and I totally agree, of course Haley would do much better if she did something about her strength.

[@ThePirateburke86]

Mal kind disproved that “bigger stronger athletes do better on the bike” statement this year at the atlas games.

[@spencergsmith]

There might be exceptions, but as a general rule, he’s correct. Bigger athletes have more mass to move the bike, rower, skierg, etc. more powerfully. At the very least we can assume that a stronger Haley would perform better on the bike than in her current state.

[@mikedevereux514]

Awesome analysis.

[@raybolt2926]

Haley my fave female Crossfiter and Mayhem in general. A bit more power in the legs with out the lost in fitness and she will win in the next few years. But I think she could win now if everything lines up well for her and stays injury free. 🙏🙏❤❤

[@johnsm00007]

Do a video on youth development, compare Mal and Emma with Haley at the same age. Emma's development is insane!

[@BuiltonGODSrock]

Why does it say Karissa Pearce for Kari? 🤔

[@xSkorpyon]

So here is the thing. Would she lose some points on some of the cardio / gymnastics events? Wouldn’t it be fair to assume a bit of that?

[@BHRAGE]

With added strength comes added muscle, how does this impact the longer time domain events?

[@matthewplampton955]

Would love to see her try a Deka or Hyrox, think she'd smash those.

[@tonyeyles1848]

Great video. She's just gotta get stronger, the rest will come.

[@tobywilliams6261]

I agree with Michael, increased strength would have allowed her to place better in the Capitol event. A little extra strength lets her carry the sandbag a little longer

[@phil245]

I think she'd place very high for sure. The fact that she gets top 10 when routinely getting low or no points on strength events is nuts. But I think this also shows that people aren't right when they think she should cut out cardio entirely to focus on strength, but should lower the volume to maintenance levels, and maybe take a week off during her hardest strength workouts. Putting her strength into the middle of the pack and avoiding cardio would make her a middle of the pack athlete imo

[@philipdelpiere3460]

Natty or not ideas…. Fraser. Jacob Heppner (increased his # fast and a lot) or others lol love the videos. Keep up the great work.

[@theprogram931]

You should do a natty or not on Ellie Turner, her “transformation” is insane

[@sdfdfdg839]

Im sure this will go over well...pepelaugh

[@hillerfit]

he hehehe

[@ukaserex]

Well, if Haley isn't a "natty", then she needs a refund for her gear. Of course she's natty. The only way we can know if she needs to spend more time "under the bar" is to know how much time she's spending under the bar currently. Cardio fitness takes a good 6-8 weeks to develop. Whereas strength takes a long, long time - unless you're a genetic anomaly, or using gear of some kind, or a beginner. Beginner gains are real. For me, Haley is a kid. (I'm an old curmudgeon) I believe Tia is several years older than she is, so Tia, also having a background in Olympic lifts will almost always out-perform Haley, as well as most of the other ladies in weight related comps. The problem for Haley is Tia will likely retire before Haley can increase her lifts to be more competitive. It's going to take time. And, there are younger competitors - Mal O'Brien, for one - who is already ahead of Haley in strength. So, it really doesn't matter how much Haley works on her strength, because the other athletes will also be working on their strength. She may catch up 5-10 pounds on some athletes, but it won't amount to much. She'll always have some events she'll do very well in, but some events that will cause her problems. There's no way around it, unless the judges don't have a barbell or sled work in the CF games. She might get 3rd...at best. She's just not strong enough to win yet. Just my opinion, I'm no expert.

[@scottpeterson6525]

I hope she gets stronger or goes and wins Hyrox, or both is cool.

[@jawee6144]

I came for a crucifixion…you give me the resurrection 😢

[@ContemplateNow]

Cute to see any take on a top 20 male or female athlete as “natty”. I realize the discomfort of the truth but if Haley Adams is “natty”, she’s the greatest CrossFit athlete of all time! To be natural and compete at the level she has with PED supported athletes would be beyond remarkable. I have no reasonable idea why we buy into any the National level competitors being natural but pro bodybuilding has its believes too so anything is possible. The level of intensity, endurance, and repetition of effort over the necessary period of time including the competition itself combined with the size and definition are dead giveaways this is not and never again will be a “natty” competition.

[@michaeldominick747]

Is Rich Froning on TRT? After all these years and he’s still a top dog….TRT is the future.

[@nursannie]

❤Haley

[@samuelcorreia9747]

I think Haley could have maybe won or finish 2nd on The Capitol if she was a bit stronger and focussed because she went too early with the Bear Hug carry.

[@stephenpliler5983]

I wanna put 10% on all my lifts 🙂

[@rickyjames5610]

All the CrossFit ppl on roids

[@BernhardKohli]

Her strength would not come without weight gain. run & gymnastics times might suffer

[@stevengarde6475]

You forgot to add the Capital, just for fun Haley would have won the Capital if she had a bump in strength. She dominated the event and then fell apart on the last few sets of stairs.

[@Pigpensblanket]

Made since to me

[@Zoet50]

Dam, harder to follow than differential calculus

[@LeviHeatonIII]

If she gains weight and gets stronger her run times will suffer.

[@coleby77]

Great video really interesting take form the rain man of CrossFit! I agree Hayley is 100% natural and you can really see the athletes who are not when she goes up against them.

[@leecaporalli1]

Birthday Post- the NO REP KING is on it.. go celebrate it my man . Keep no repping your BDAYS and stay young

[@WagyuMamaRanch]

I say Natty that girl hasn’t changed her appearance/facial structures, overall muscular build, strength…for the love of God…has not boosted. Not much to lead me to believe she’s not all Natural

[@alexgalant2922]

I think you need to redefine your natty or not. You are defining PEDs exclusively as muscle/strength increasing drugs when those types of drugs are only a small part of the WADA prohibited drugs. Cycling used to be considered the dirtiest of all sports because of the number of stimulants, other energy producing drugs, and recovery drugs they used. Virtually no one was using drugs to get jacked. So, while Haley Adams may not be using muscle building drugs, how do you know whether she's using the other types of performance drugs? I'll put monet down that more cross fit athletes are using the types of drugs cyclists use than strongman use.

[@closedcircuittelevision555]

no way she’s natty

[@hillerfit]

Maegan woke up and chose violence

[@Horndog08]

Hopefully she won’t block you over this 🫢 #jk

[@Ziterberg]

I don’t even need to watch this. She’s natty AF. That’s why she still has the prom queen bod and won’t ever see the podium.

[@summerw5773]

Wow my goodness Andrew 🦇genius!!! Out!🦇