Hillsong Founder Breaks Silence on Scandals Surrounding Carl Lentz

The popularity of the church Hillsong soared in the U.S. thanks in part to Carl Lentz, its New York lead pastor, whose ties to Justin Bieber and pro athletes made him a celebrity until he was fired and admitted to an affair. Now, in a TODAY exclusive, Hillsong founder Brian Houston speaks publicly about failures within the church. “I’m acknowledging that mistakes have been made,” he says.» Subscribe to TODAY: on.today.com/SubscribeToTODAY
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Hillsong Founder Breaks Silence on Scandals Surrounding Carl Lentz

[@alexguillen9598]

A pastor isn’t a celebrity, he’s a leader, the one that guides the flock. He’s not supposed to be the focus, Jesus is. Everything true christians focus upon is towards Jesus and Jesus alone

[@Caribbeanqueen1976]

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[@Caribbeanqueen1976]

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[@Bokgat]

Thx for the post. Well said! So what , he sinned. We all do. Let’s not crucify him

[@Bokgat]

@zalgrade yet you may appear to hate them for judging you as much as you are judging them. Quite ironic

[@Naisy77]

False prophets

[@airplane800]

A friend told me once that the real champions you will see in Heaven you probably didn't know their names on earth.

[@efrain7993]

I believe that

[@TheDrummerGamer]

That’s biblically true, Matthew 19:30 “But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.”

[@kiarancl]

@@TheDrummerGamer yup🙌

[@hamishcameron9106]

God elevates strong leaders just as much as he does humble servants. There are a lot of “champions” that we know very well from the scriptures whom god loved very much as well.

[@airplane800]

So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. That is enough for me.

[@annagriffin2865]

Brian Houston: “As a church we are conservative...”. NO‼️ As a church we are OBEDIENT to the WORD of GOD✝️👑

[@sammyjay698]

Brian Houston is a false teacher and needs to be called out.

[@Antnj81]

For what it's worth, most conservative values are derived from Judeo-Christian teachings.

[@lesliemanuel6971]

True that Anna,sadness is that people across the globe are looking up to the chruch,and bang,God gets the bad name because our bad habits,dragging the name of the church through the mud,thanks Anna

[@joytiston9769]

True. That should be the answer

[@neilangus4401]

This perverted in outlook or ideal That your religious fanaticism Seems to draw you people like a moth to a light It really is insane when you sit back and acknowledge the fact that you all are worshipping a vacuum

[@annagriffin2865]

Brian Houston: “I acknowledge MISTAKES have been made...”. Be honest & truthful! Call a spade by it’s right name. These are SINS in God’s Book, not MISTAKES‼️

[@heyhey2810]

YUP THAT MAN IS STUPID

[@joshuapatrick682]

To be fair all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God..The point is to focus on the systemic erosion of the church into something more akin to A corporate business model

[@thehealthylife5715]

He without sin throw the first stone!!!

[@happytrailsgaming]

Hasn't Jesus taken care of sin? That's not an excuse but a sin should not be judge by anyone who sins themselves aka all of us. It's 110% not the responsibility of another man to call out or talk about another's shortcomings but to love them... There's no point scale in heaven friend

[@Barbbfly]

They dont ASK Almighty GOD ''show me the wicked way in my heart cuz I .love u God ''. they say -I want a prosperous perfect life =i want !!!! u r my puppet god . //// GOD FORBID .I HAVE A HARD TIME TYPING THAT .

[@theintrovertgospelmusic1676]

"I believe that one reason why the church of God at this present moment has so little influence over the world is because the world has so much influence over the church." - Charles Spurgeon

[@tyhartzmusic]

Charles Spurgeon! We need more of his preachings.

[@cassie2910]

Truth.

[@tessalogan586]

Perfect

[@MissJ74]

💯

[@KatAdVictoriam]

Amen! Spurgeon is a wise teacher more need to read/listen to. Not these celebrity/worldly men who don't even preach the gospel but "feel good" sermons more akin to a motivational seminar or secular concert.

[@mandivvy]

This is the problem, people today worship the pastor instead of Jesus. They look to the man instead of God. 95% of the professed Christians I know today are spiritually disarmed and lost. They think saying “I’m a Christian” is enough. You have to walk your talk. Most don’t. You bring up God, the Bible, anything, and they’re just not interested in any of it. They are OF this world instead of IN this world.

[@ichokedonadoritoonce7670]

Yup

[@beeragainsthumanity1420]

I'm not a Christian, but I have to agree with you.

[@mandivvy]

@@beeragainsthumanity1420 And that’s why people talk so bad about Christians. Who can blame them when it’s true.

[@tronalddumb7868]

YUP

[@ulissesteixeira1408]

@amanda copeland you hit the nail on the head! So so true, ppl need to stop idolising pastors. Stop putting them on pedestals. Whenever you put your faith in man you will always be disappointed.

[@TheSpkalyan]

"Unfortunately as a pastor, you don't represent what you think but what the bible thinks", the fact that you think that is unfortunate is really unfortunate

[@kennysfdg471]

Pastor B. was being an honest human. Don't steal it from its context. Simply put, it can be easier to give in and follow your flesh's passions, but following Jesus is worth it all. As one of their worship leaders/songwriters said, "faith's about becoming more like Jesus no matter what the cost."

[@samflatley4]

@@kennysfdg471 wrong. Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. Heb 11:1. These 'leaders' in these churches are not educated on the word of God. Sanctification, rather, is God's work of conforming us to the image of Christ. Stop listening to these people who have no idea what they are talking about. and it is quite sad that he finds it 'unfortunate' because it just shows that he indeed does not desire to have that biblical view yet has to if he wants to keep the charade up.

[@kennysfdg471]

@@samflatley4 Bruh, that's legit what I just said - just re-worded. How petty.

[@samflatley4]

@@kennysfdg471 No it is not. You quoted ‘faith is about becoming more like Jesus no matter what the cost.’ This is not at all what faith is. That is sanctification, not faith. Totally different things :)

[@catherinegrace2366]

Also Houston just stepped down from Hillsong.

[@dalliskay6719]

well said: "as a Pastor you don’t represent what you think you represent what the bible says"

[@pattyrobarbe4047]

That was a wise answer

[@nathan-lu5ir]

this is why you don’t look up to humans. they’re imperfect

[@andrewhaine7217]

Serving God is more about obedience which in turn gets translated into perfection, its not about perfection from a human standpoint because that would be impossible. God doesn't expect from us hat only he can do.

[@GrowithChelsey]

So true!

[@irishindependence4115]

Remember when British Houston was hiding the horrible allegations against his father...

[@killpridebeforepridekillsy6504]

And that’s why we got to stop putting our leaders on pedestals. They need to be accountable for their actions just like the flock must be...

[@daveo2431]

Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith

[@shellbell2167]

Remember this. When a man is “head” of the church, it has stopped being Christ’s church. Christ is the one and only head of HIS Church.

[@JD-rx2kh]

I'd encourage you to rethink this theology. The church started because of men being the head of it on earth (the Apostles). The key is "on earth." Your response is a typical legalistic argument to not have to submit to any authority. But Christ is clear that he's the head of the church in the ultimate sense, but he still uses his earthly leaders to guide it and build it. It was the point in Christ telling Peter that He would start to build his church on Peter's leadership (Matt 16:18). Paul was the head of the churches he planted, so were the other apostles that planted.

[@childofthetruth3312]

Melchizedekian priesthood

[@shellbell2167]

@@JD-rx2kh Colossians 1:18,24 I don’t need to rethink my theology, b/c “theology” is not mine to begin with. The Bible says Christ is head of His church. The end.

[@ifegreen5417]

Amen.

[@natashamcclellan2707]

Amen❤️!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@musehairextensions]

Hillsong introduced me to Jesus who saved my life. I’ll forever be grateful for them. No ones perfect.

[@chookin1]

Especially their celebrity pastors.

[@tessw9744]

Someone who walks in sin can still lead you to Christ. The point is to recognize they are not pleasing to God. We don't get into heaven based on people we lead to Jesus,we get to heaven by trusting Him and obeying Him.

[@mupenziemmanuel8168]

The Holy Spirit introduced you to Jesus, no man has the power to introduce you to Jesus.

[@matty4natty]

I’m sure they did 🤮

[@jonathan_8100]

Carl lentz is to blame. Dont blame anybody else :)

[@cryptonft2421]

when you give TOO MUCH POWER & TRUST to some people, they become “GOD” to those people

[@peterkirgan6850]

Yeah look& Scott Morrison who thinks he is the messiah! Doubt if he can perform miracles or walk on water!!!!!!!!

[@thenightporter]

Sounds like you are describing Trump.

[@benchang1022]

He’s just a man. Of you equate Christianity to a any man, you will be disappointed every time. Pastor or no pastor.

[@dianemccloud5990]

@ Nonvisi, Every time, Carl Lentz is a child of God...Still...and always will be, he is human, and make human mistakes....as we all do...Gods word is his word...it must be soooo hard to be on that pedestal of being sooo high up and then the fall....but God says, we fall down, but get up, get up....you are still his....

[@mallen6035]

Then why does his name equal 666? 😏

[@John-ww3ji]

Exactly. Fix our eyes on Jesus christ the author and finisher of our faith.

[@nathaniellowry3861]

So you would consider the apostle Paul in the same way? Please explain.

[@John-ww3ji]

@@nathaniellowry3861 Certainly. All man are fallible. But God is infallible. Mentor the author and finisher of our faith only. For me I always have this WWJD approach. Whenever I am faced with trials and tribulation circumstances, I would ask the question What would Jesus do?it helps me calm down and seek the Lord with all my heart, soul and mind.

[@KelsonMarques]

“ as a Pastor you don’t represent what you think you represent what the bible says” 👏🏻

[@developer36able]

It's unfortunate that he said "unfortunately" though before he said that. It's saddening to hear a Christian finding it unfortunate to represent Christ!

[@TheStemo1]

@@developer36able My thought exactly - how is it 'unfortunate' to represent Jesus?

[@Jasentabuell]

I’m genuinely curious how it’s unfortunate

[@LavenderInProvence]

@@TheStemo1 agree!

[@musicgal9830]

Y’all taking this out of context 🙄 Essentially Brian was emphasising that unfortunately representing Jesus means we no longer represent our own thoughts, feelings and emotions. He was bridging a gap in understanding with a critical world who operates solely in the flesh!

[@valariescott2211]

Wow!! This is not the first time this has happened in a ministry. God is cleaning house and He corrects us He loves us. What God allows to be taken down He will build back up. We are not perfect, people fail but God’s love never fails.

[@java4653]

But God did this. Your religion did this. You did this. Hide from Hillsong's Sin and be rejected from Heaven

[@frederickb74]

One thing that we all MUST remember, is that none of us are perfect and without sin. My heart goes out to both the victims and the ones behind the victimisation. God both heals wounds AND forgives the darkest of sins. And let us all remember that though one of the body might fall and make a most hurtful mistake, the message of the cross does not change. Love. These young women need our prayers and love, and the ones who have caused this hurt also need our prayer and love. God bless you all.

[@merrittascott4408]

If Brian knew nothing, he'd be innocent. But Brian is the problem himself. He also brought in savory characters he knew weren't legitimate Christians.

[@priscilladevi9705]

@@merrittascott4408 Brian is a brilliant Pastor. Hard working. I respect him so much. Keep your comments to yourself if they are negative please. Get closer to God 🙏

[@merrittascott4408]

@@priscilladevi9705 Hello, I have no problem exposing false teachers and pagan practices in the churches. Why are you defending what God hates?

[@125sloth]

@@priscilladevi9705 Funny you should say how brilliant Brian H is. Obviously you have not seen the latest where he basically admits he has a drinking problem, and also cheated on his wife mutiple times. Not too "brilliant" at all I would suggest. And the negative comments about him are usually FACTS. Hillsong members have even said how "shady" he is. You may not like the factual comments, but facts cannot be disputed. And what you are implying is that if Brian Houston has done something immoral, or even illegal, people should not call it out and keep it to themselves? Are you serious? So all Houston's "failings" are just minor indescretions are they? Things that should remain secret? That is called a "cover up", something Hillsong and many other chruches are good at. Well the NSW police have a different take on it, and do not have their heads in the sand, like many who follow this very questionable Hillsong/Pentacostal religion, which in reality is not even a real church, but a multi billion dollar BUSINESS, hiding behind the guise of a "charity", to avoid paying proper taxes.

[@ericcrook1585]

@@priscilladevi9705 Are you kidding with this? Do some research. He KNEW about child exploitation and abuse. Did nothing. There is a special place in the karma line for this piece of garbage you respect.

[@seanpark6169]

LMAOOOO, I haven't gone to church in awhile. But whenever I saw this Carl Lentz guy, with his designer fashion and friends, I never really bought that a person like him could lead a religious community. Where is the humility? The humbleness? Not surprised by this news at all.

[@mifnp8887]

Humility is not about outward appearance it's about one's heart attitude. You can read where Moses wrote that HE was the meekest man alive. Not what you might expect when describing oneself! Meekness & humility is about our heart attitude and our response to glorifying Him.

[@RS-yw4wg]

Humbleness has got nothing to do with clothes. As you said, you haven’t been in church in a while, so am sure you haven’t been ready your bubble for a while either

[@ItsAlohaMonday]

Yeah, I quite agree. I hope you do come back to the house though!

[@samuelthomas1575]

@@RS-yw4wg Maybe not. But these ''leaders'' were blowing money on designer brands, jewelry and other luxuries. Where did that money come from? from donations given in good faith and money set aside from meager wages earned by hard working every day men and women in their congregation. I'm sure Jesus would have something to say about that? Its the people like you who spend all their time in church who are the most clueless about the faith.

[@realcyrusjohn]

Church business, a huge religious business they are trying to build.

[@angie9241]

I went to Hillsong church in London for long time of period , is a great worship church, but I left this church in the end . We need a church not only feed us on worship but also growing of sprits too ...

[@JD-rx2kh]

Good point. Yes, they pride themselves in their awesome music, but their teaching at best is motivational speeches, this doesn't feed the soul. It's empty calories, much like a diet of candy or carbohydrates, eventually you become unhealthy.

[@angie9241]

@@JD-rx2kh You are absolutely correct about this ... I was in love with Hillsong’ s worship team , I also worked there as volunteer on Every Sunday service... The church is too big and can’t grow my spiritually... as Christian we have to follow the truth of our God, not follow any pastors or worship them ... 🙏🙏🙏

[@thebellamurphy_]

Agreed

[@annalinepillay6387]

That is the problem here in South Africa as well. People can't pray when they are not bombarded with worship songs..

[@angie9241]

@@annalinepillay6387 Hillsong church is mainly focused on worship, but as Christians we all need our daily bread too which is the words of holy bible... Sadly not from this church.... 🙏🙏

[@Veedubayou]

Need to realize what Hillsong did for people around the world that has been forgotten because of these scandals . Thank God for the goodness of things come into your life . Hillsong inspired me and I will never forget that

[@humanperson318]

So just ignore the real people who have been hurt, victimized, and silenced in all this?

[@Veedubayou]

Ephesians 4:31-32 31 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. 32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

[@654Crossman]

​@@humanperson318 he's not saying to forget that. He's simply saying not to forget the good deeds they did. They still need to be held accountable for their wrongs, but they did do a lot of good for people around the world. That's all he's saying and I agree.

[@inarcidyeastrail2017]

Well , I'm glad some good came out of it , cause i was wondering did any positive come out of this church . I'm glad to hear you say that .

[@serena9543]

God did not hillsong

[@pyeonghwasworld]

Whenever our Spiritual Leaders fall, we should help them find themselves again. We shouldn't say bad things about them, they are people like us. They don't have supernatural powers. Let's keep praying for them.

[@TheRisskee]

Absolutely agree. Unfortunately, the world these days likes to tear people down and keep stomping on them. It's so sad.😔

[@125sloth]

I would suggest that committing a criminal offence is hardly a simple "fall", especially when it was to cover up child abuse and protect the church.

[@chromebull884]

The problem is much deeper than that. Their doctrine is corrupt so everything else there will be.

[@125sloth]

Act of what? The Bible has nothing to do with law anymore in reality. Even in courts now, those taking an oath on the Bible is less than those who choose to take an Affirmation to tell the truth. People, including many Christians, are getting sick of the Bible and how it's "rules" are broken continually by clergy and church people. Hypocrisy in the extreme.

[@TheRisskee]

@Mac cam you do realize this has absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia, right? The dude was having an affair with a married woman, not a child.

[@michaelnjuki974]

That’s why Paul kept writing letters…the news he received from some of the early churches were heartbreaking and this situation is still recurring

[@donsanchioxsmith]

Thank you. At some point he instructed that two believers should not take themselves to court before judges. He said these things must not be heard amongst us.

[@j12201980]

All i can say is fear the Lord, fear the Lord, fear the Lord, fear the Lord, fear the Lord because he is your creator, He is patient, loving and kind. Fear him! fear him!

[@pollydunn9609]

Why would you fear a loving patient and kind creator that is Love. Carl made a mistake but his sins were covered on the cross by his Savior. Christ forgivies but the media never does.

[@JessWehrle]

polly dunn.. type into google “fear the lord, bible verses” you will get an enormous amount of content!! the Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom, the Fear of Man is a snare (“it’s a trap”!😜) What does it mean to fear man? to be always conscious of their eyes on you and adjust your behavior based on knowing their watching. Now put God in that place. That’s the fear of the Lord. Being ever conscious of His gaze on your soul!

[@brittanybalentine9864]

@@JessWehrle She's correct, Polly. But we are near the "peace and security" (some say "safety") prophecy and there's nothing left to really be fulfilled next to the Harpazo. I feel the two witnesses should be here very soon.

[@williebrown7984]

In Jesus name Amen.

[@pollydunn9609]

I choose to look up love of God scriptures. Fear usually comes from Satan. Yes dont let men rule how you think or act. Thats what the media does to get the attention they crave. God definately is interested in our souls because He created them so we could love worship and have a relationship with Him through His only begotten son Yeshua. The veil in the temple was torn at the crucifixion to open that doorway to God so the only high priest we need is Yeshua. The media would like to find fault in every Christian church out there. The pastors are all sinners just like Carl and all of us but guess what those are the ones Yeshua loved on the most when He was here. He looks at the heart. Anyone that puts any pastor on a special pedestal needs to quit. That is a form of idol worship that most don't deserve or want. They are just doing what THEY feel God called them to do whether He did or didn't. I think most try to do their best but it is the Holy Spirit that touches people and brings them to God not any person.

[@mattsands161]

“But unfortunately as a pastor you don’t represent what you think, you represent what the Bible says.” Wow. That statement says a lot.

[@lisamayo7657]

Yeeeessss!! Also regarding gays and lesbians he said "AT THIS POINT we are conservative on that ....." What?? God's Word does not change. I am so disappointed. Glad I'm not the only one.

[@monicasoyombo3360]

Unfortunately???????? Wow.

[@15DavidAndrews]

So sad. False teacher! Unfortunately!!

[@siasvosloo61]

@@lisamayo7657 I also find it unfortunate that the Bible does not give clear-cut answers to many practical dilemmas faced by Christians with a non-typical sexual orientation.

[@hectickhomestead591]

@@siasvosloo61 Actually it is very clear. What are you looking for? I’d be happy to help

[@kylecarroll4339]

Brian Houston comes across as a respectable and surprisingly humble seasoned man. I appreciated his ownership of Hillsong’s public criticisms and ongoing staff problems.

[@hannahchase3881]

He's ushering in CH RI SL A M with his boyfriend S c o v I d....look it up😞😳

[@Emmalittlepengelly1690]

What video were you watching? He comes across as closed, uneasy and uncomfortable. All manipulators. Wake up

[@125sloth]

With all due respect, do you still think the same of Houston now though Kyle, given that he has been charged by police only 2 days ago for not reporting his father for child molestation back in the 70"s? Or do you still feel sorry for this clown who makes money mainly from gullible people. Like many of these charasmatic self appointed "agents of God" here on Earth, who cover up crimes. the guy should be in jail.

[@carrieb5711]

@@125sloth he didn't report his father for child molestation, who did his molest? If it was him himself I don't think he was under any obligation to report his own abuse as a traumatized child. Truly feel man because I've not heard anything about that.

[@125sloth]

@@carrieb5711 The son is not the abused. Some children within the church were. In most states in Australia the law has been the same since the late 60's. In any institution, which includes churches as well as schools etc. any allegations of child sexual abuse must be reported to police. Even if the "victim" does not want it reported. The reason for that is that others may have been abused also, so the investigation has to assume that. And it is often the case that others are involved. This was not only an allegation, but his father admitted to the offending. Houston has admitted publicly that he did not report his father, but did have him removed from his position. Regardless of all that, it was also a huge conflict of interest that Houston made the decisions about his father, when his father was the alleged person, and proven perpetrator. Totally unacceptable. Brian Houston should have stayed right out of it. All he wanted was to protect the name of the church. And he failed, even if years later it all comes out. If police did not think they had a case, they would not have charged him. There is more to it that the media either choose not to report, or have to be careful with at this stage.

[@jesuscameforrelationshipno4165]

Jesus told us to be set apart from the world

[@michaelciccone2194]

Yes you are correct! Sad that the new members aren't taught about forsaking the world, the flesh and the devil.

[@dongledong5039]

Yes but Jesus also told us to seek the lost. Most people would say celebrities are included

[@meithink642]

Jesus knew that leaders could become puffed up with their status too

[@JMTZS]

Yessssssss its music, its culture its vanity. We are not from this world. HE need to be the Center, out Foundation.

[@thepianoman808]

But not in a sense to be completely separate. That’s what I would call Amish lol. We should be living in the world but not of the world.

[@darlateegarden7595]

Build a personal and intimate relationship with Jesus! set yourself apart from the worlds ways!

[@bensononyango2426]

How is intimacy and separation done? I ask this because men don't know how to access the cross, spirit realm. All they do is in the flesh.

[@Surviver-e2o]

Word!!! Indeed it has to be like that!

[@odinakaobasi311]

Exactly! Every Christian is called to follow Christ, not a pastor. Humans are flawed and the church of Jesus isn't perfect.

[@walterwalls6507]

Darla, where in the bible do get that idea?

[@frankjosef3154]

Hello how are you doing today?

[@babatundeadefusi4447]

Regardless of what media says ,I still Love hillinsong church. I live in a Muslim country for over 10years . I have been more closer and closer to God more than I ever imagined through hillsong song misnistrations. I feel the joy of salvation and free. God Bless his church.

[@jafuni9349]

Be safe and God be with you always.

[@renebarrera4429]

The devil takes many shapes.. Even as a preacher.. Beware of many.

[@annhar43]

And that’s what happens when one tries to bring the worldly things into the church. God is a jealous God and will not be replaced by, anyone or thing.

[@charlielanguellholt3877]

How are you doing 😊☺️👋

[@annalisefelix6154]

true

[@_patontheback_]

True indeed. Many churches like Hillsong has become seeker sensitive rather than truth driven.

[@CG-lm1bu]

Amen 🙏🏼

[@aislingoneill5419]

Amen, I pray the ones really seeking the Lord with all their hearts run a mile from these so called churches, Jesus is coming back soon.

[@benjaminlink1510]

When she asked Houston about being the "head of the church," that was his moment to acknowledge Jesus as head of the church. It didn't happen.

[@elianatom1089]

These guys are running a business empire.

[@tammyh6735]

I didn't hear a Word about repentance. Maybe I missed it. We should all as the Body be broken over this going on in God's House. Yes, Christ is the Head of the Church. What will Jesus find in the church when He returns?

[@kellyrawluk2047]

@@elianatom1089 Exactly!!!

[@balung]

@@elianatom1089 $120 (Tax Free) Million a year, at last count.

[@blesseddoreen3052]

I was waiting for that in the whole interview for him to acknowledge that Christ is the head of the church and that it’s Christ that does the work in people for them to change and not a talented man. His carrying so much weight on his shoulders. He needs to let Christ help him in management of Hillsong. I am sure it’s been tough on him. May The Lord help and guide him through.

[@RayOfLetsatsi]

Every time I went to Hillsong(South Africa) I always left feeling peace, hopeful & my faith restored. May God continue work & touch lives through this ministry❤

[@jakesimp3583]

Keep deceiving yourself. They probably are telling people like you what you want to hear. Thats why so many of you are blindly following their nonsense

[@mariehiemstra8503]

I went to Hillsong church in The Cape (SA) once , never heard of Hillsong before that, I had the opposite feeling leaving that church😒.. gutfeeling was NO!!...

[@chickbowdrie4750]

But did it change your life? Did it cause you to sincerely follow Christ more or did you just feel good?

[@Princeton_James]

It's because they use emotions instead of teaching what the bible actually says. In some good churches you leave so convicted that you do not walk out feeling good.

[@hellepost1439]

@@jakesimp3583 George Carlin 😉

[@juliemaristha8728]

Pastor Brian, I believe the Lord will be through in this dark moment. Take courage in the Lord!

[@125sloth]

Where was the Lord when Houston's father was molesting kids back in the 70's? Kids lives ruined forever, if they didn't take their own lives at a young age due to abuse. Have a good hard think about that. Pastor Brian will need more than the Lord to get himself out of the current crisis he got himself into, due to his inaction on his father back in the day. Even the best lawyers cannot get him out of what he only has himself to blame for. Covering up his fathers crimes when in the Pentacostal Church, to protect the name of the church. And he has done the same later after setting up Hillsong. Protect the name of the "church", (business), over all else. What a loser.

[@bohemianrhapsody6877]

@@125sloth exactly

[@tognyd2349]

Whoopsie.

[@pmt7335]

He was, praise His name! And exposed this heretical church

[@katrynlittle165]

God will start exposing the wolves one by one as the end times come to a close

[@Njw6219]

God always brings to light what’s in dark who are his children No matter

[@dasowle89]

Amen!

[@burtonsnow845]

Yup, judgment begins at the household of God.

[@JD-rx2kh]

Agree. Also, as Christianity becomes more and more illegal and not tolerated by culture, more churches will be exposed and quit b/c it's no longer a way for them to have power/control or to be cool.

[@dthomas1839]

Amen

[@mambamentality295]

The danger with people like him, America's Celebrity Pastors, is that we put them on pedestals. They become symbols, icons, and then we start to forget about their flaws.-Baron Zemo

[@TheFelltimber]

And I have never found much substance to his messages that could explain the size pig his church.

[@koreshdabar-yhwh3588]

That's because the modern Evangelical system in the West is a religion based on believing you go to Heaven when you die. These Pastors are what they are because they don't have the Gospel, but have a counterfeit that puts heavy burdens on people and keeps them out of the Kingdom of YHWH.

[@simondavies5309]

wise words

[@sheilashoop3308]

Exactly 💯cursed is he who trusts in man

[@mombeaubob]

And they think too much of themselves

[@nashipaikoima682]

Praying for you to overcome this stronger and better. You're a blessing. You can't please everyone. I've been so blessed by your great worship songs and messages especially when I was down. It helped me.🌹

[@piposhelves885]

He been caught himself, no human is a blessing to look upto , only Jesus!!!

[@assefawoldeselassie2625]

“And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.” - 1 Peter 4:8 (KJV)

[@thatdrummerwoman03]

I have friends who are pastors, I am close to many pastors, I hear their cries about their church. Their struggles in their ministries, people, finances, you name it. I hear their struggles and I see it everyday. The pastors close to me are THIS CLOSE to breaking under all of that pressure. I praise and thank the Lord that He’s giving them strength to operate under such stress. To even put this scandal into perspective, I don’t even know how pastor Brian is dealing with it. Really, imagine leading 5+ diff churches worldwide, with their own unique problems and needs. Only by the grace of God that’s he’s able to not crack under pressure. Instead of criticizing the leadership, pray for the leadership because all in all the pastors are human. They do sometimes crack and break, hence they need prayers and support. We are the Body of Christ and we are supposed to group hug each other when trials and tribulations rise.

[@sylviamack5076]

I agree with you Trisha Gives🤗🤗🙏🙏❤❤💜💜

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

I think pastors and church leaders "crack under pressure" because it is a "one man system" led from the front, while the passive congregation listen. The New Testament cites an "all-body ministry" made up of pastors, prophets, teachers, evamgelists, etc. They are not meant to be carried out by ONE PERSON, which is why they get burnt out. A pastor is not a teacher and vice versa. They are two separate roles. Pastors are pastoral and care for the flock such as visiting and counselling etc, but a teacher is responsible for the promulgation of Bible reading and sound doctrine. If the two roles overlap (as in many denominational churches) then the concentration on one role will be diluted and compromised. The answer to all these 'failures' is in the Bible!

[@matthewmaurysmith2486]

I hope you're not sticking up for this horrible person and his corporate big money "church" As a Christian I find mega churches like Hillsong absolutely tasteless and disgusting. And the people who support and go to these churches need to DO BETTER. Go to a small local humble a legirltimate church. Or stay home and pray and tend to your family and people in your life, or do something good for yourself instead of going to a rock show and sing vapid praise songs.

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

@@matthewmaurysmith2486 I'm not sticking up for anyone, horrible or not. I stay away from all churches and generally avoid contact with all Christian people. I do not enjoy indoctrination.

[@matthewmaurysmith2486]

@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 prob not you, no worries... as a Christian guy who plays guitar for my church, i make a stand and I will not play hillsong, bethel, any of that kind of horrible stuff. I feel it's all wrong. There always seems something so empty and so fake and so put on about not just that music, but also the modern mega church services I've unfortunately been to. And then I see the news about all the scandal and see what it is really all about ($$$$) Stuff makes me sick But here's the thing. You don't have that horrible stuff without all the "Christians" that support it. They need to do better.

[@paminhenan]

I think as Christians we need to pray for those who are "popular" in ministry or famous in a world setting. Take Chip and Joanna Gaines, I pray for them often that they will be able to stay true to each other and their faith. The same for Steven Furtick and his wife.

[@tab7782]

God Bless your heart and your spirit for interceding for these ones .God Bless you ma'am .

[@katherinewilliams5303]

Beautiful soul❤

[@MrsStrother]

Amen!

[@StayHomeEatGreat]

Yes, this! The truth is that there are people who love the Lord and are full of charisma. This is attractive to Christians and non Christians alike. Once in leadership, the challenge is staying true to God, no matter what. Your calling above all else!

[@unique_monique]

Pray for your pastors and their families, people have no idea what we battle and your prayers for us make a difference!

[@sammyjay698]

This made me deeply sad. This man has so much influence and is so far from God and His purpose. It saddens me that young people who attend think that they are going to church - where the gospel isn't taught. The Bible, God, the message, the gospel never changes - and it should stay intact throughout the ages. It doesn't need flashy lights or loud music or pretty people. My God, may those who attend see the truth and find a church where they will actually be taught true salvation.

[@centurychallenger]

In Malaysia. There is also a church I once attended, when I was really young, playing strong music, jumping here and there, celerity style, pastor always emphasize on cozy environment, missionary, demanding tithes of more than 10 pct, preaching how this member give faithfully and today earn big house, successful business, we all fall into the same trap.. So called prosperity teaching. I hope some Malaysian in Selangor/KL aware of this. Those pastor aren't follow Jesus teaching. Be aware. Well, they will say, I am jealous, envy of their success. Only God knows. I am not reveal any church name. But be aware, how they grow into mega church, they brainwash you to keep bring friends to the church, also check if the church is accountable to Hasil, maybe this could help some from falling into this trap.

[@farmnurse9319]

@@centurychallenger When I was younger (mid 30s or so) we went to a fairly large church (not a mega church) and the pastor would call on people to give testimony of the good things God had done in their life but he would only call on those that menti oned how faithful they were with their tithes. The church had some of the poorest people that went to that church because the church would pick people up from nearby homeless camps, when the head pastor shook your hand you always had a sense of while he was shaking your hand ✋️, he was busy looking for the next hand ✋️ to shake. He did run for city council. Once someone donated a jag to the church that he commandeered. We finally left the church after a few months because we felt that Jesus doesn't work that way 😪

[@centurychallenger]

@@farmnurse9319 the pastor motive has only one - to proof the sheep that "those who tithes will be blessed richly, unexpectedly", imply that "those who don't, will not be blessed"...but also..the secret code is - those who put money in my pocket, you will be blessed by God abundantly, quoting all the bible verse ..out of CONTEXT, yet claiming still applying to today's context. at the end of the day, only God knows what that pastor really thinks about it.

[@radinkeishamayenner.647]

ive been hearing the controversy about the hillsong church and songs, but one time i knew a christian whom i am not closed with, and had a supernatural encounter with God, she wrote a comic about it and i read it just recently. as someone who also had an encounter with God long ago, i am very much convinced that he is not the author of confusion. and i understand that each on of us has a relationship with God and that is our biggest responsibility, keeping that relationship till the end. so i read one chapter about her being listless and laying on the bed, she played the hossana by hillsong, and then she saw angels on the door of her room singing along the song. and she said she's slept being assured, knowing she's in the presence of God.

[@saiat9185]

Carl made a mistake, he’s human. He isn’t perfect, instead of bashing this guy we should be praying for him

[@varvarauru6747]

I get what your saying, but “a mistake” can excused. He did more than a mistake, there’s no way he didn’t know what he was doing. He cheated on his wife, lost his job, ruined many relationships. He’s an adult, I personally don’t think that’s a mistake:/

[@kristagerbrandt8971]

These things keep happening. The culture of "leadership" in the church needs to change significantly

[@pewpewparamedic8255]

‘You shall know them by their fruits. Any tree that does not produce fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.” -Jesus. It’s called actions speak louder than words. He’s a leader of arguably millions and he only exudes wealth, fame, self-promotion, and culture centered messages. Nothing about his actions represented Jesus, the homeless counter culture pacifist that befriended the rejects and healed the sick. Jesus stated time after time after time that actions will always speak volumes more than words.

[@JJ-wg1ec]

Accountability first. There are consequences. And you can still pray for him all you want but pray for those whose lives he has affected and that of his broken family too.

[@JJ-wg1ec]

@@varvarauru6747 exactly, and he had a million chances to NOT do what he did for his millions of mistakes or his millions of lies to everyone he knew including his own, wife, kids goodness even his mistress. But he was selfish and only thought of himself. So don’t sugar coat “mistakes” for CHOICES, there are consequences.

[@bauman7962]

You know who NEVER let’s you down? GOD! Don’t let things like this discourage you from seeking Him

[@johnnyperez1969]

Amen dude!!

[@dongray6144]

Yes I do. Rick Astley

[@tinaferr]

AMEN! I strayed so far from God because I was discouraged and focused on the bad in the Catholic Church. It was all part of His plan in retrospect...but I hope other people can just read the Bible directly so God can speak directly to them

[@chellep6740]

Amen!

[@chellep6740]

Glad your back in His arms!! 🤍

[@Tawadeb]

Everyone of us is responsible for our OWN choices. Let’s make our choices in line with Gods Word.

[@johncool6496]

A quote that I keep with me while I’m serving the Lord. The Lord doesn’t say to us, “Good and famous servant” he says to us “Good and faithful servant”. We are all the same in the Lords eyes when it comes to serving we have to come under authority of our Pastors and Leaders. Everyone is welcomed. No famous people should be acknowledged in the church only the leaders that are sold out and serving Jesus whole heartedly and faithfully that’s who Jesus will Come back to take when he returns to rapture us. Jesus is very near.

[@JD-rx2kh]

What’s funny to me is a lot of Christians and pastors spoke out against Hillsong movement and were told to be quiet and were called judgmental and now it’s true. Remember that next time.

[@SavedSis]

Very true. I was thinking the same thing.

[@ulissesteixeira1408]

Its funny how ppl expect church and church gowers to be perfect. Its like church is this magical perfect bubble. The reality is that we are all imperfect and all churches are just a cross section of the community, you get the good the bad and the ugly.

[@triciathurman9668]

We are finding out that they are also imperfect. Scandalous

[@JD-rx2kh]

@@triciathurman9668 There’s a difference between imperfect and having a constant stream of unbiblical behaviour. But you have the right to defend sin all you want.

[@JD-rx2kh]

@@ulissesteixeira1408 Like I tell everyone who uses your unbiblical and sin justifying line, there’s a difference between imperfection and having a consistent stream of unbiblical behaviour and reputation. Hillsong has had quite a few scandals if you research them, not just this one. But hey, you have the right to justify sin all you want. God will reveal it in everyone one day.

[@bldlightpainting]

Carl sounds more like a worldy celebrity, not a humbal man of God.

[@Iworkwithnitwits]

So true.

[@shawnaweiss5407]

BS.

[@ArchingScarab]

"Who are you to judge another man's servant?" (Romans 14:4) You don't know his heart, only God does. Man looks at the outward appearance, God sees Carl's heart and loves him and desires for him to restored to right relationship with Him.

[@jaidenmcdonald8848]

@@ArchingScarab we don't know a man's heart, but we can see some of it through his actions. A man caught up in adultery who is leading a church is showing his faith...or lack of it. So many people are excusing these sins and not acknowledging the women used and hurt in the process. Famillies destroyed by infidelity. You forget that God calls these men to a higher standard and that should cause you all and them not to use such careless words as, "they are just human and sin like the rest of us". Of course they are, but they should not allow this type of sin that brings down the witness and testimony of Christ into their lives and to infect the church. He would and will call them to account for their careless actions. Too many excuses because so many of you are worshipping the men and the institutions. If the church is caught up in sin, make significant changes. Enough is enough. End times could be upon us and this behavious is sick and inexcusable.

[@D-Z321]

Hmbaal i like it 😂

[@emelinek673]

The interviewer was very diplomatic and did a great job, showing respect and being considerate, she made the interview easy to follow instead of feeling uneasy about the whole thing

[@KingdomofGoals]

Jesus!!! I can't believe it, Carl is one preacher I listened to without filters. Truly, the best of humans is nothing but a human. Jesus is our perfect example

[@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603]

Don't use The Lord's name in vain. Choose your words carefully when discussing The Son of the Most High God. Not all people who say Lord will enter in Heaven

[@hellepost1439]

@@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603 “If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God.” Tracie Harris❣️❣️❣️

[@ashtonayat1972]

“ love not the WORLD; neither the things that are in it !; for who ever loves this world, the love of Father is not in them “ 1john 2:15

[@sandraescobar5219]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@bensononyango2426]

Those in flesh will always set the eyes on things of flesh. The church has not known the way to the spiritual realm. All they do is in the flesh.

[@lovinggraceendtimes5153]

🙏🌹

[@janwindham2309]

Amen!

[@henryfortunatow]

"unfortunately as a pastor we have to go with what the bible teaches..." - definitely could have worded that better.

[@Jessica-ls9bf]

Amen

[@markhenderson3545]

Maybe he wasn’t saying it’s unfortunate for him but it’s unfortunate for people in that lifestyle

[@MATTHEWJOHNBELL]

@@markhenderson3545 Maybe that is what he meant. But that's not true either. It's actually a supreme blessing that God's Word shows us the truth, whatever our sin.

[@burtonsnow845]

Yup. This is a pastor who cannot confidently stand on the Word of God.

[@briancoleman5125]

He meant unfortunately for Savanah and all the Christian haters out there who believe the church should adapt to the culture instead of vice versa.

[@josephmiller997]

As a Christian, I think she asked fantastic questions. I was tracking ok with this guy (he was giving pretty solid answers) until she asked if it's possible that the church was TOO big. That answer to me exposed his naked ambition. He doesn't think it's possible to be too big. Red flag.

[@natvtxn1213]

As usual, deflect deflect Brian. It's the Hillsong culture that promotes this behavior and thinking. It trickles down from the top. And how insulting to re-victimize those that HAVE reported abuses only to be hushed. Same response to his father's accusers. Anything to maintain your image. If Jesus walked through your doors, truthfully, He would NOT be pleased.

[@hellepost1439]

“If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God.” Tracie Harris❣️❣️❣️❣️

[@scottbrandon9390]

I was reading about Ravi Zacharias today. It's a shame this happens to people who do so much good in this world. Whether it is Ravi or Carl, it shows that we all fall short of the glory of God. We all are sinners. But I know who holds tomorrow. It is through Jesus Christ that we can be saved.

[@michellec.7996]

Nope, assault is not a "we are all sinners" conversation. Ravi did horrific disgusting things. To reduce it to that is unjust and why so many people leave the church. Making what he did palatable is one of the reason I grew tired of Christianity.

[@scottbrandon9390]

@@michellec.7996 I agree the accusations are pretty horrible. But there were a numbers of things I don't like about this case. He had the woman who sent him nude pictures in 2017. He made a statement on that denying any involvement. But the other three women from the day spa in Atlanta made those accusations after he died. He can't defend himself. Anyways, the inquiry stated he was guilty, and that is a terrible thing he did. I don't like how his wife was evicted from her home this week. His daughter and the rest of his family are also getting dumped on when they were not part of these accusations. My family were just discussing this tonight. Ravi Zacharias, Benny Hinn, Hillsong and other ministries have been in the news lately. It doesn't make be believe any less. The point I was making is it proves to me even people at the top are sinners. Doesn't excuse it. But it is part of human nature that people sin. In this case of Ravi, it was a shock to me. I saw him three years ago when he came to my mother's church. I even bought two of his books. It is hard to reconcile when seemingly good people do bad things like this. Fortunately no controversy in my church with leadership.

[@uscitizen3252]

@@scottbrandon9390 Regardless of when the three women came forward, RZIM investigated and determined the accusations were true and Ravi's business partner admitted that he should've intervened during those incidents. It's not easy to come forward with those kind of accusations against someone that powerful. We are not in those women's position so we should show some grace and empathy towards them. They are the victims, not Ravi.

[@kareemeverison]

Well Jesus himself spoke in the bible saying that noone is good only God. Our good works are like dirty rags compared to the goodness and righteousness of God

[@bonsaitomato8290]

Yeah, I’ve always had a problem with that “you are a disgusting piece of trash in need of a savior” message that Christianity tries to sell. Think about it, would you let anyone in your life (mother, father, husband, wife, friend ,employer, etc.) treat you that way? No, most people would reject someone attempting to verbally and mentally abuse someone in that manner, but, call it a “religion” and all of a sudden people lose all of their critical thinking faculties. Disturbing.

[@vamvakit]

Celebrity culture/attitude has no place in any church!! 🙏🏻💙

[@Iworkwithnitwits]

Worldly dress and views don't belong in church. We all need to humble ourselves and be Christlike.

[@JanTabanao]

I do belong in a church that pertains to a lot a Celebrities, what happened the whole Network got "shutdown" (ABS-CBN). Still as a believer that really doesn't mean anything to be honest on an economic standpoint Celebrities are just bearers of Goodwill showing how God has been good to them and that they are human too. i kin'a think i'm a celebrity my self. But I always go for the Praise and Worship that is where i give my all.

[@ethanlenton6834]

I was in rehab for a year & graduated. I'm not a Christian. Yet the rehab I was associated with was a Christian orientated one. We went to Hillsong in the hills. Which is the hills district. We also attended the conference and other events they held. Which was great because it would give us boys the chance to get out and do something ( it was a all male rehab - one80tc ) The only thing I looked forward to in that time of hardship was going to Hillsong.. to hopefully have Brian speak that night..

[@bonneedillin-fontana6904]

Brian Huston always spoke the true things of God..he honored Christ & will come back after sin &be a even better leader. He really loves the Lord Love in Christ Bonnee

[@nicolaluk4613]

I grew up in a traditional church, I have made my decision to believe, I have gone through different seasons in my journey with God and have been to and served in different churches. No church is perfect because no one is perfect, we come to church because we're thirsty for God and we want to follow. I just hope that all these scandals, bad news don't affect our believe in God. The greatness of God can nowhere be represented by any church on earth, but we still come because we want more of life and for each other.

[@jayneschwalger7554]

Beautifully said 🌸🌸

[@marietjienel2126]

Totally agree!!

[@uccppanabo7516]

Agree!! the Church is not Perfect, that's why we need to be reform & reforming..

[@marietjienel2126]

This is so true!!! Jesus came for those who need salvation. We all fail! Thank God for His love and mercy and for Jesus, Who is our righteousness!!!

[@franervin2653]

“unfortunately as a pastor you don’t represent what you think , you represent what the Bible says”. Ummmmmm…..

[@ping7364]

Well said

[@02michellica]

I was thinking the same thing so his thoughts differ from jesus's thoughts? Interesting not the kind of pastor I would want to follow that's for sure

[@nathaniellowry3861]

WHAT??? Maybe to you!!! Whats the point of being in a pastoral role & not agreeing with the textbook?? 😂😂😂

[@elizeviktoria]

@@nathaniellowry3861 Ahahah yess🙌🏻🔥

[@johnspikes256]

Lol, I think he meant it more as, as a Christian in general, your thoughts on a situation may not always be perfectly aligned with what the Bible says, which makes sense because we are all imperfect and fall short of the glory of God. However, He represents a Truth greater than his own mindset (which is influenced by the world since he's still human), and as a pastor, it's his responsibility to preach the surpassing righteousness of God's truth, even when he can't fully understand it all.

[@respectabletampodcast]

Huge respect to Brian Houston for this interview. I appreciate him even more now.

[@leavemealone5520]

He’s false teacher

[@priscilladevi9705]

I respect him too. Bless You !

[@priscilladevi9705]

@@leavemealone5520Read the Bible. He teaches Biblically. His not false. Alot of people are jealous of him and bring Hillsong Church all the time

[@leavemealone5520]

@@priscilladevi9705 i do read my Bible & okay 🤣

[@crispinswainstonharrison9042]

Brian is genuinely a believer in tithing

[@thinkcivil1627]

As the director of men's ministries at a large church for 20 years, I can tell you that I spoke with more men about this problem than most people realize. This included a fair amount of pastors who became involved in the same problem that hurt their churches and almost destroyed the church's ministry. We are all human and we all sin, which is why Christ came and died on the cross for those who repent and turn to, or back to Him, and scripture is very clear on judging others. I discovered why it is so important for church leaders to establish accountability which would hopefully head off some of these problems. The churches ranged from the various mainline denominations to charismatic, to large and smaller independent ministries. What saddens me is the pastors and other "religious" leaders who have been posting reasons online why they no longer allow Bethel or Hillsong music in their churches any longer and they will go to great lengths (including taking videos of services and posting them online) to portray them in a negative manner. Instead of trying to bring down a ministry that has reached so many people that other churches have failed to reach, these people in positions of leadership who are throwing stones should be careful about judging and mostly about giving free advertising to the many people who are looking for an excuse to not attend ANY church. Look at the work and the people that were being reached prior to the scandal. If they were that concerned, these pastors and church leaders might have reached out to this ministry to see if they could do anything for them while the problem was being taken care of. Which is how most of these scandals are handled with most mainline denominational churches, instead of posting online. They instead are doing the work for those who are trying to bring down all ministries, and being in a position of leadership, they will be judged differently for their actions. Instead of fighting amongst each other, it is crucial in this day and age for churches to be working together and to look at the important issues that every church should be concerned with. Which is bringing people to having a personal relationship with Christ by grace through faith and not through works (Ephesians 2:8-9). When He walked this earth, we read in scripture that the only people Christ criticized and openly spoke out against were the religious leaders of that day who were threatened by Him, which is the same type of legalism that has become too prevalent within the body of Christ today. Jesus was more concerned with the one person who didn't know Him and came to HIm than the 99 "righteous" people (the Pharisees) who were trying to bring down His ministry and worked to keep people from coming to Him. In today's world, it is more important than ever for the body of Christ to be working together and be reaching out to those ministries who are going through a period of trouble, instead of working to destroy them.

[@mnwilliams386]

Amen xxxx

[@paulcollins5586]

Well said.

[@Sherlock245]

And you too should join the lgbtq and follow your words and not judge them either.

[@nataser2011]

She did amazing interviewing him! Idk if she is saved but man I can feel the questions making him do proper self exam

[@heathermunoz6282]

That's exactly what I was thinking. These didn't feel like judgy world questions. I believe the Lord used her to speak truth (whether saved or not).

[@ashl8804]

Agree.

[@jhonklan3794]

"saved" you guys are hilarious.

[@natepfunk]

This interview seemed like many of the details were edited out. I would have liked to hear all of what he said.

[@draggabeats]

He should come on the Joe Rogan podcast

[@natepfunk]

@@draggabeats my thoughts, exactly.

[@natepfunk]

@@draggabeats TV interviews are too shallow.

[@MTknitter22]

He was saying what lawyers told him to say, he was very evasive. Very very sad. But God is exposing corruption and sin the House of the Lord. Just the beginning.

[@123JWJWJW]

@@MTknitter22 who knows. Seems edited too much

[@vianelle3821]

At some point the songs of hill song heal my soul Thanks Hillsong 😭😭😭😭. I feel healed and loved when l listen to your songs

[@GLENLYNAS]

I believe as a church gets bigger and more popular, this can often go to the pastors head. The spirit of arrogance takes over, and these pastors start to think they are celebrities and they take their eyes off of Jesus and what they church is meant to represent. I left my last church 3yr ago because of the way the pastor treated me and many other people. That pastor is now on the verge of losing his job because of scandal that has recently come to surface. These people forget who God is

[@GloryBeToGodForever]

“There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death.” “Hay camino que al hombre le parece derecho, pero su fin es camino de muerte.”

[@nonnayerbiz4550]

🙄 What has that verse got to do with obvious, admitted sin?

[@GloryBeToGodForever]

@@nonnayerbiz4550 He thought his *WAY* of living was right.

[@sjv9147s]

There is a way which seems right to a man and appears straight before him, But its end is the way of death. Proverbs 14:12 AMP bible.com/bible/1588/pro.14.12.AMP

[@lagodifuoco313]

All religious garbage. Wake up people.

[@bower9686]

@@nonnayerbiz4550 you

[@monicaramirez51015]

And Jesus said, “I will leave you the Comforter, the Holy Spirit to teach you all truth and to guide you” The kingdom of Heaven is within!!!!! Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling and above all love others, however ONLY TRUST THE LIVING GOD YAH!!!!!

[@AquaMarino]

Amen amen amen

[@michaelrodriguez9984]

Hello

[@BigBossStatusAintMadeForRunts]

I think we need to focus on how many people really want to follow Jesus in their life...it's just unfortunate how many leaders of the church are really not followers themselves🤔🙄🙏☝👑

[@jerryfracquiles6101]

6:51- Wow! I can't understand why he'd say "it's unfortunate..." Representing Jesus is but a privilege. It's the most fortunate thing to be called by God and represent Him to those people in need of salvation.

[@LuisLopez-od8bp]

“Look at the difference in Bieber” Dude have you heard his recent music?!

[@SethMacLeod95]

😂😂

[@natashamok8236]

"i got my weed from California"

[@jruninpass9393]

@@natashamok8236 thats that shi*

[@lindsayleonettearries1774]

Precisely. Doesn't he also smoke marijuana?

[@Mighty-ue7bt]

Justin Bieber is Borg Again

[@ThatsNOTChristian]

We continue to pray for the Church

[@howardlervik4983]

Amen

[@manuerrivares]

Brian da la cara como debe ser, una pena por la familia Lentz, no lo podría juzgar solo orar por la iglesia en NY, Laura y los niños que puedan recuperarse y poder salir adelante

[@fearfullywonderfullymade4057]

You will know them by their fruits. They preach a different Gospel.

[@juan-pierreleroux8323]

Yeah new age prosperity gospel is misleading, deceiving and deadly

[@radiomanze1296]

And yet these churches continue to flourish, people want their ears tickeld

[@Gabriel.1985.]

@@radiomanze1296 in the last days many will not endure sound doctrine, we are in the last days.

[@radiomanze1296]

@@Gabriel.1985. Yes indeed I agree

[@thetruththewayandthelife803]

@@radiomanze1296 the churches have fallen

[@flee.The.Cities]

This is sadly a sober reminder of man's weakness and fragility...the ultimate focus is our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ. Not celebrities, not popularity, this is a race of endurance, not the fitness or the strongest. Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 1 Corinthians 1:26. Confess your sins. Remain humble. Focus on Christ the author and finisher of our faith and Continue to pray for the church.

[@lindabenabides2727]

Praying for Pastor Brian and Bobbie love yall

[@protectorofillinois3]

I'm just going to say this - all of us are NOT perfect and we'll all going to fall short of God. Just like our pastors pray for us, we also need to pray for our pastors.

[@BamiAyoBamiAyo]

“Unfortunately, as a pastor, you don’t represent what you think. You represent what the bible says.” Huh??? Is it ever unfortunate to represent what the Bible says?

[@joeychen3946]

The way he says it sounds like he wishes to not represent what the Bible says.

[@KDenis-xn5tw]

Not a fan of that answer. But I do love hill song.

[@01jesusfrk]

I think I was more disturbed when he went on to say “At this point we are still a conservative church” So does that mean at some point in the future you won’t be conservative and change your views?

[@GuitarNTheCar]

@@KDenis-xn5tw that seems to be the problem. Hill song isn't about Christ as much as it is about appealing to the world, About looking cool and being popular. Their "worship" looks like a Coldplay concert.

[@Matthew24.4]

@Brim - Solomon, David, Saul - all saved me. Solomon is the wisest man, David loved the Lord. They all committed very serious sins. To say that a pastor can’t stray is unbiblical.

[@bonggakaday1120]

Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "'Come out of her, my people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; rev 18:4

[@deirdremorris9234]

CORRECT

[@arsiemaberhane3274]

Who is 'her?'

[@bkad687]

@@arsiemaberhane3274 mystery religion...it has infiltrated the Christian church. Can see the symbology and the non-Biblical teachings if you listen

[@brittanybalentine9864]

@@bkad687 yes, or sometimes referring to "Mystery Babylon" in Rev. Hmm....

[@EMChantalG]

Amen

[@bikdav]

The thing that I learned the hard way is that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT CHURCH.

[@blessed7fold]

“Unfortunately as a pastor you don’t represent what you think , you represent what the Bible says” This is a very troubling statement as it reveals this pastor does not share the same attitudes as God. Another bad statement was "A church can never be too big" Everything about that statement couldn't be anymore wrong. This is why I have never had anything to do with this church. Their philosophy is the antithesis of the pattern that was set before us in the scriptures.

[@chookin1]

Amen to that.Their gatherings look like the MTV awards.

[@carolynfinn-fleming8032]

Amen pastor Brian well said "The church doesn't represent what the pastor thinks but what the Bible says." Pastor Lent didn't change Justin Bieber, God Almighty did!!!

[@AlistairDBClarkson]

So he doesn't align his heart with the bible?

[@redeemablesoul]

@@AlistairDBClarkson do you.

[@AlistairDBClarkson]

@@redeemablesoul as best I can muster

[@carolynfinn-fleming8032]

@@AlistairDBClarkson He's human, not perfect.

[@rachelabbott1338]

You just gotta be careful about some pastors interpretation of the Bible, but yes. You are right.

[@knunez4862]

People forget that we are all humans and that falling out a grace is a real thing.

[@minutemeditations14All]

@Esther

[@IzingaI]

@Esther Are you talking about James 3:1? That's talking about God judging teachers more harshly, not someone in the KZbin comments.

[@brightpage1020]

Agreed. Every human is fallible and every human sins. And all of us are worthy, thanks to Christ, of the ultimate heavenly forgiveness.

[@goodvibes7424]

@Esther Wow…… Ever heard of David? “A Man after God’s own Heart”. Don’t be self-righteous.

[@varanisesetalefenua7781]

@Esther Totally Agree with you and so does the bible, I don't think your being self righteous at all it's discernment and alot of the modern day Christians lack it because they are not being spiritually fed by the word nor do the have the spiritual maturity to know it. The truth hurts but it should challenge us to build a real relationship with God 🙌🏾 bless you

[@malaniadoo4731]

Forgiveness is the greatest thing we can do ....do not judge...but we pray fr u pastor Houston and hillsong...that restoration and peace over the church

[@ar.5484]

I love this church we are the church we have to make a change if we relapse we have to continue forward it’s not the church for is us we need to start changing in our hearts the right ways 🕊

[@7sk89]

It doesn't matter how small or big a church is, there will be people who will try to hide from accountability.

[@siyaake6851]

True.

[@KudziC]

Exactly

[@dailybibletime-bibleversef2417]

“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Deuteronomy 6:4-5

[@lalasng8643]

Amen.. Love God and not Man

[@bensononyango2426]

Men have never known how to love God; that's why Jesus Christ came.

[@justinwetzler3579]

These questions did not address the alleged sexual assault and other SIN that took place among Hillsong Church leaders. This man needs to answer some much more serious questions.

[@hellepost1439]

“If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God.” Tracie Harris❣️❣️❣️❣️

[@itan1759]

Is this an edited or full release?

[@KarmicTimes333]

It's all about the money for most churches. Churches are treated like businesses and corporations anymore. The church has really become no different than the world. You have to find God and Jesus for yourself.

[@KarmicTimes333]

@@AE-oh4sr I agree.

[@henryfortunatow]

@@AE-oh4sr i also have this feeling

[@Ryuohmaru01]

I disagree that most churches are all about money. Certainly we need money in order to operate, support different ministries, and spread the gospel, but for the most part I see the churches in my community being all about Jesus. Nobody is looking to make a profit in most local churches. These mega churches are few and far in between.

[@Cr3013Pr1nc355]

While this statement is true for a good amount of churches this does not apply to all. There are good churches but they’re hard to find. I’d suggest asking God to lead you to the right church. Just like God lead me to a good church when I asked He can do the same for you. In these end times it is not good to be without fellowship or having a preacher that can help guide you through spiritual warfare or whatever situations you deal with. The devil wants isolated believers because that gives him the opportunity to easily mislead you or attack you. Like the Bible says he is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Please take heed. You will need the body of Christ to help you in these last and evil days. The Bible says that Jesus is coming back for a Church without spot of wrinkle and if you’re not apart of a church and you’re not getting spiritually fed by a seasoned man of God who can rightly divide the word and you don’t have anyone to call to help when the devil is attacking you in your mind then you won’t make it in these end times. That’s why the Bible clearly states “And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10:25‬ ‭NLT‬‬

[@KarmicTimes333]

@@Cr3013Pr1nc355 Thank you for your message. After my last attempt at going back to church, I just threw my hands up. After being back out in the world for a long time, which I enjoyed, I went to this one, larger, well-known church in my area and they were definitely all about the money, where you went to college, how much money you had, what you were wearing, etc. They are planting churches like they're opening up new businesses across the country. More money. The pastor is like a cult leader; he's the chaplain for an NFL team. And when I did need spiritual support, they were not available. I have run into many people that also have had the same experience with this church. I have never seen such narcissistic, arrogant, indifferent, judgmental "Christians," including the pastors, in my life. It is no wonder that people are no longer interested in the church or Christianity. For now, I enjoy being able to watch whatever pastor I choose online. Thanks again. 😌

[@Isamiinspires]

“And look at Justin Bieber today” my friend, that had nothing to do with Carl that was because of Jesus.

[@myrnashoults9735]

I think he was saying that Carl aided in bringing Justin to Christ. I’ve always been taught that Christ puts people in your life for a reason and Carl was that person for Justin. I didn’t feel that he was giving Carl full credit, just saying Carl was an instrument that Christ used

[@Isamiinspires]

@@yourturn777 ya it bothered me that’s the first thing he mentioned. Especially since the interviewer never asked about JB. Carl hasn’t been his pastor in over 2 yrs. it felt like a “ya it’s bad but look what we did good”

[@anthonyadebonojo5502]

To me the pandemic shows the absolute holiness of God. This is very sad but God is not limited by the failures of humans. This I trust will be a tool of cleansing and warning for all of us. May I desire Jesus. I know people have been blessed by Hillsong.

[@devboh2235]

Carl is in free masonry and a deceiver. Bieber is actually a female transitioned into male. Do the research! All the A list actors and actresses are inverted to deceive us all.

[@kingdomlyricz2578]

@@myrnashoults9735 Carl didn’t bring Justin to Christ. He only pastored him, and we can see the fruits of that.

[@eleanorjordan3404]

How much harder could they have been than to FIRE and expose his behavior? Yes Justin Bieber is a different person because of Christ…THAT, no one can deny, nor have they tried!

[@micalah8282]

There is something very wrong with this whole situation.

[@jtorie1]

God's church can't be too big but yes, a pastor's congregation can.

[@angelique8702]

Jesus calls us to Be the “Church”

[@tashizzle2004]

I honestly think part of the reason Hillsong has found itself in the state it is in now is because the Church indeed is too big. So many branches, operating like a business with little to no accountability, evidently, with what has come to light.

[@HennesysHernandez]

This interview had a lot of FROSTING on it. We the body of Christ need to see what’s under it.

[@ivornworrell]

sugar coated?

[@HennesysHernandez]

@@ivornworrell It has diabetes all over it!

[@ivornworrell]

@@HennesysHernandez That's why we need to pray without ceasing, lest we be deceived by false prophets.

[@HennesysHernandez]

@@ivornworrell Amen! Without a fail.

[@Chings001]

💯

[@Babesofthepower1113]

Thank God for grace. His mercy is life.

[@becomingchristian54321]

I’m a sinner and will not thrown any stones at no one - am praying that God show me the way cause am looking for God now

[@watchman316ly]

When you don't truly preach the Word of God and not live it, this is what happens. God's name will not be mocked!

[@michelleneal2023]

Amen!!!

[@Harmonic2010]

I totally agree.

[@MsBamagirl58]

Word! Thank you!

[@MattSeabolt]

We are all human. If you are expecting perfection, you won't find it. We have all fallen short. If anything these kind of issues show our need of a savior. If anything, it shows the chance to start again.

[@brittanybalentine9864]

Time's sped up for a reason. To get tgs Saints out of here just in time.

[@chelseagirl278]

Exactly there is only One who is perfect 🙏

[@Bambotb]

It means Don't respect or trust people based on what they say..doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye like you're trying to sya

[@bonsaitomato8290]

Well isn’t that convenient, just shove it all off on “Jesus” and that absolves you of everything. No real accountability at all. You’ve been caught lying and exploiting your followers? No problem, just tell them “no one is perfect” and there you go. Instant absolution. No wonder people like this Christianity thing, you can do literally anything and no one will ever hold you responsible for it IF you appeal to the basic tenet of the religion which is “you are all terrible people” . You escape accountability for your flaws while you go about judging others, like gays and transgendered people for what you mistakenly assume is their “flaw” . What a mess these people are.

[@ItsFinished]

This is the problem with these churches as they pedal "cheap grace" and preach that is ok to remain in your sin and God will give you a mulligan. Jesus said "be ye perfect as your father is perfect" in Matthew 5 so why are we not striving to hit the bulls eye? Because of churches like hillsong who teach baby Christians to believe its ok to remain in their sin. NO! Jesus's first ministry was repentance! Are we forgetting that God is sovereign? Do not be deceived by the music and the watered down message!

[@nomore1371]

Of course he will say it's a good church. It's an enormous asset for him.

[@reylumban6448]

Too much popularity and power can corrupt even the elite

[@andrearohrscheib6541]

Great interview. She asked the tough questions

[@MsEllee]

Yes she did.

[@dankxng]

Grateful she didn't go easy on him. Jesus would definitely not enjoy Hillsong Church. He'd be flipping tables!

[@maryannajackson8238]

@@dankxng He most certainly would be flipping tables, along with declaring that His Church will be a house of prayer! Matthew 21:12-13.

[@carmellewis2466]

She was very good.

[@bonsaitomato8290]

I don’t think she was nearly tough enough. She pulled her punches but then again the media always goes toes up to the line of actual tough journalism only then at the last second back away from actually doing their jobs all because they’re afraid of upsetting Christians.