Himalayan 450 vs CFMOTO 450MT - Shed Talk Ep.64

[@thebigw3377]

And the winner is dr650 🎉 🥇

[@EddyOtway]

Just clocked 10,000 klm on my MT450 and she hasn’t had any issues and I’ve done everything from single track to highway riding sitting on 120, yeah it runs out of puff on the highway that would be my only gripe. And it carries its weight well, you wouldn’t know it was 195kg.

[@seawench555]

Just got to remember she's a 450cc, but we can only do 110kms on the highway anyway. 🇦🇺🤙

[@nockianlifter661]

There’s a KZbin of an Asian guy taking the CF Moto engine apart and it’s a copy of the CP2 Yamaha engine. One of the issues found was sub standard big end bearings compared to Japanese bikes, possibly why they initially use a high Zinc content break in oil.

[@jonnothetrucker]

My mt450 is brilliant! Sounds bloody awesome with a pipe on it, feels a lot lighter than it is or looks, front brake is not brilliant, but does the job, you sit in it rather than on it, 4 litres per 100k, have gotten over 400k to a tank, plenty of power, happiest above 3500rpm, stock rebound is to quick in the bush, comp and preload is good for 90kg, I backed my rebound off 4 clicks front and back from the standard 10 out of 20 available, I find the kyb to usually be double what a showa fork would be to get the same results. An absolute joy to ride

[@Daniel-Mclovin]

Good to see yous back boys! Viewing from FNQ📍

[@darrabase1]

I am glad you are back, will miss seeing oldy ones, as I would go to them for the info, but you had to do what you had to do. Looking forward to more informed shed talks. Cheers. Ric

[@UncannySense]

Saving up for my MT450 for me its the 270* crank twin cylinder engine. No interest in doing single track, never plan to drop it in the rough so weight is not that big of an issue and it will sit better on the highway than any dual sport. Also I don't think the Himmy 452 looks that good.

[@arnohag1]

Both bikes are great. Depends what you want them for. The himi is more relaxed.

[@davidcauchi2837]

Greetings Gentlemen SO good to see you all doing what you do. The discussion on the Himalayan and CF 450 bikes is a good one and MAD TV did do a very comprehensive review; Mark maybe its time to change, a new bike may help to get the Vibe back. I had to make some decisions about bikes in regards to my Health and Age...I still want to ride I need bikes that allow me to do just that! It's your choice Mark. Thank you all. Yes I like my Scramblers, I can do a lot with them. Make see you soon... David....Adelaide.....Triumph Scramblers 1200X and 900......all for the ride

[@jonnothetrucker]

Been hanging out for this review/comparison 😊

[@billcotton1551]

Hi guys! Good to see a Shed talk. Where I am in the States, we don't have either bike yet. The bike that has me most excited is the 2025 BMW f450 GS. BTW Rem's Mom got the CF Moto, and she seems to love it.

[@46MOOKS]

Looking forward to you guys also discussing the AJP PR7 at some point. Love ya work fellas! 🍺 (600cc Adv, 165kg wet)

[@keithward2521]

Good topic but I was distracted by the fact you all had hair cuts for the pod cast, looking good guys👍

[@BikerBits]

LOL 🤣

[@rik3849]

Grumpy is on track with Kove. Check out the Kove 450 Rally lads, maybe not a direct competitor to an adv bike but take my money.

[@NinjoJas0]

So for some reason, Biker Bits has been removed from Spotify. It this just me? As your biggest Canadian fan, your podcast has been some of my favorites. Please send help. 😫

[@waggyboy1]

Hey Mark, Wags with the CFmoto here from the ride we went on You're welcome to take it for a spin and do a ride review if you wish

[@BikerBits]

Thanks mate will have to organise something soon!

[@jimtitt3571]

It's interesting, I have a riding buddy with plenty of money (like a Multistrada, a 1300GS and a 501 Husky) who bought a 411. I asked if he was going to get a 452 an his reply was no. His reasoning was his other bikes were perfect and the 452 too good, the old Himmy was so bad he could tinker with it buying parts without end to make it vaguely acceptable. Sometimes you just need a hobby.

[@jonnothetrucker]

Better than standard Bark busters, and bashplate are an absolute must on the MT450, standard bashplate is tinfoil

[@jonnothetrucker]

Also the standard tyres on the mt450 hate wet and slippery off road 😅

[@timothyangus954]

I tried one two up as I am selling my V Strom 650 that I rode around the world (including circumnavigating Australia). The guy I tried it with was on a Himi and I asked if if we should swap bikes. I wouldn’t bother he said so I didn’t. Ordered one next day in September and it arrives in March, such is the demand in Europe.

[@slakk5093]

I’m guessing you are talking about the cfmoto? So you had the chance to ride the himi back to back and took someone else’s opinion instead of getting first hand experience?

[@timothyangus954]

@@slakk5093 The man I was riding with was Nathan Millward, of Nathanthepostman fame. A far better rider than an old man of 69 like me will ever be.

[@slakk5093]

@@timothyangus954 ah ok that would explain it, Nathan hates the 450 himi. Interesting he told you not to ride it at all though 🤔 he’s mentioned in his videos that guys on his rides have tried both and preferred the himi. He always says that people should try first hand, which I agree with 100%

[@teamgas]

@@slakk5093I rode them back to back a few weeks ago with Nathan and liked them both. Would probably go for the MT.

[@user-co4ey6mm3e]

(Tenere dry weight is 187kg - wet 205 kg ) these 2 bikes are too heavy for their engine sizes / better going Yamaha for engine size 700cc

[@UncannySense]

T7 has a taller seat and almost costs 2x more.

[@nockianlifter661]

If you watch the recent Nathan the Postman ride on the CF he rides up a tough climb and he said he would not have taken the T7 up there. It’s not just weight or power, it’s a combination of everything that makes it such a good bike for novice riders and those with less talent.

[@Ozsmallbore]

You spec sheet warriors need to give it a rest. There is so much more to a bike than what a few numbers may suggest. Anyone who is being honest will tell you the T700 feels way heavier than it actually is, and the MT450 and Himalayan feel lighter than their numbers suggest. And less than 1/2 the price.

[@billcotton1551]

Yamaha is American?

[@BikerBits]

Japan!

[@kristbjornbjarnason2771]

HI why compare bikes base on price. these bikes are not compatible with each other. one vs two cylinder. compare bikes with same cylinder count. you can compare Himalayan 450 with CRF450. DRZ400. KTM690. and so on. I own 450MT and KTM450.

[@DEADSHOT55555]

Nobody mentioning CF MT 450 are build with the help of KTM 🤔

[@slakk5093]

But it isn’t. 450mt is a cfmoto only bike

[@DEADSHOT55555]

@slakk5093 Chinese are known for reverse engineering masters...KTM have legally provided them engines by partnering them

[@slakk5093]

@ yes but only under licence, and only the 790 engine so far

[@tonybedingfield9085]

Get a Harley 🤣🤣🤣