Hip Hop Fan Tries To Get Into Heavy Metal

[@AlfoMedia]

Thanks for all the recommendations & clarifications for things I didn't understand everybody!! Super helpful. I really appreciate it. P.S. super embarrassing that I've been mis-reading "Megadeth" as "Megadeath" this whole time lmao

[@AlfoMedia]

System of a Down, Mastodon, and Dio seem to be the front runners for suggestions rn 🤝

[@klasesalk]

you are gonna have so many comment with 50 bands that you “must” listen. but yeah soad is great also to get a general idea just listen to spotify metal playlists, you will get the hits and see what sounds you like

[@johnhallberg7113]

Pre-emptive defense nice, was coming here to comment Megadeath lol

[@JamoboBorg]

@@AlfoMedia For Dio I'd recommend Rainbow's Rising as well, as he sang lead over that. It also has Ritchie Blackmore the lead guitarist for Deep Purple another very early band

[@Madvillain47]

I'll love to see you listen to Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse and Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark. Two classics of the black metal that would be a perfect introduction to the genre.

[@aidanb8300]

As a metal head, I think that to understand metal fully, you need to understand metal sub-genres

[@elmerinase5734]

Absolutely. For example I think that Power Metal (my favourite subgenre, tbf) is one of the best places to start. It's cleaner, but still clearly metal and can get really rough at times. I also like nu metal, but I don't think it's the best place to start.

[@renzcastro1602]

facts

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

not really. I don't need to understand anything but some history to understand sabaton I don't need to understand anything to understand Alestorm, I just need to like pirates Babymetal is just interesting to listen to and Gloryhammer, the only thing you need is imagination and love of fantasy

[@RsPker141]

Absolutely agree Aidan.

[@herrmiseria]

Started with black metal 💀

[@gabbeandersson483]

I love how he became a metal elitist in just 40 days

[@baivabjena1438]

I hate how he became an elitist in 40 days. I like classic metal too, but the constant need to bash current artists solely for the reason they weren't born 30-40 yrs back seems absurd.

[@gabbeandersson483]

Baivab Jena yeah I know, It was a joke and I’m with you on that, I for one love both old and new metal and always have

[@alexw3777]

Besides, he didn’t actively bash the newer bands, he just said he didn’t vibe with it too much

[@xXPurpleLoliTranceXx]

LMAO

[@deadmeme8122]

sven tutt i doubt he would like them i do enjoy some black metal but drath metal is just trash to me and its the reason people think metal is “only screaming lul”

[@calebdickerson2003]

When has Guns N' Roses and AC/DC ever classified as Metal lmao, I love them both but they’re Hard Rock plain and simple

[@syrionband]

guns is hair metal tho

[@juuzousuzuya24]

@@syrionband gnr isn't quite "metal" altho their "use your illusions albums were kinda heavy.

[@syrionband]

@@juuzousuzuya24 they have the characteristics of a hair or a glam metal band but I can see why some people call them hard rock, not a fan of them tho so I might be biast

[@GodsOfWar666]

"Dont damn me" is kinda heavy metal

[@calebdickerson2003]

@@syrionband hair metal is far from heavy metal and thrash which is what metal has become known for

[@theenglishviking3194]

You have my respect. As a metalhead, I can respect someone who knows nothing wanting to get the knowledge.

[@ericgollinger367]

It's a trippy journey through many sub-genras, as well as the history of the electric guitar.

[@BOBSMITH-YouTubeStoleMyHandle]

That is the exact reason I'm watching this. I know very very little about metal and its subgeneras. I like classic rock and hip hop, but am trying to learn about Metal. I bought my first metal vinyl Metallica's Master of Puppets. I was told that was a good jumping off point. I do like the sounds of the 80s metal over some of the new stuff I've listened to. Maybe that is where everyone starts. I just don't like the growling and incoherent vocals lots of metal bands have.

[@mikescott1792]

Amen

[@sundor5401]

"the speed seems like a big factor too" *stoner metal would like to know your location*

[@bexiemounne7781]

The Sword might really be my favorite band, when I don't really know any other stoner band. I like their rawness. D'you have any recomendations pal?

[@sundor5401]

@@bexiemounne7781 I don't really listen to a lot of stoner metal, but i could recommend DOWN. With Phil Anselmo being the vocalist, i think you'll like it, it's also pretty easy to listen to (not overwhelming and shit like that). \m/

[@thatyoutubechannel9953]

Sleep is probably the best band ever when I'm high, nearly impossible to enjoy when I'm sober

[@FalafelTheBurner]

*Sun O))) wants to know your location*

[@biblicaladrian6007]

Doom Metal is awesome

[@HeliosXII]

"I'm not scared of this genre anymore" - a man who hasn't touched black metal yet.

[@northern_patriot0691]

Helios XII exactly what I was thinking when he said that haha

[@HughMansonMD]

Lol the first time listening to Gorgoroth, Deathspell Omega, and Blut Aus Nord were definitely some experiences for me..

[@swiggityswag6748]

Helios XII I've been a metal head since 7th grade. I still steer clear of black metal.

[@andrewa6095]

Wait till he finds out about grindcore

[@hipbubble7685]

That sunbather stuff comes near it

[@vulcan1358]

Slayer: Thrash with a darker content Amon Amarth: Melodic death metal about a lot of viking stuff Rammstein: You either like it or you don’t, just give it a whirl Black Label Society: trust me on this one, some stuff is metal but Zakk Wylde likes his blues Body Count: Ice-T likes metal GWAR: it seems hokey and over the top, but necessary Killswitch Engage: I’m not big on metalcore but Howard Jones. Any of their work with Howard Jones Dio: Ronnie James Dio. If Black Sabbath had a more Dungeons and Dragons feel. Motörhead: Lemmy. Closer to punk than metal, but one of Metallica’s favorite bands Tool: Lateralus Venom: another band from the transitional hard rock to heavy metal era Sabaton: anthemic power metal and a lesson in military history

[@BrogieSmells]

vulcan1358 “Tool: Lateralus” well said

[@osmacar5331]

THROUGH THE GATES IF HELL, AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN, THOUGH THE NAZI LIIIINES, PRIMO VICTORIA!

[@cockixxon6308]

Amon Amarth is viking metal

[@emilbreidling2420]

@@osmacar5331 well said my friend

[@tringenbach64]

@@cockixxon6308 They actually don't like to be classified as viking metal.

[@Smartguy561]

One of the most confusing things about getting into metal for the first time is the fact that metal has so many different subgenres and they sound different. So one sound doesn't define the genre as a whole.

[@BChuckVT]

Me: *sees that Megadeth's name is spelled wrong* My objectively bias metalhead heart: calm down....CALM DOWN, JUST BREATH, IT'S HIS FIRST TIIIIIIIIME!!!

[@bronysaiyan5236]

RJEIDHSJDNSJDKDKDKSDNAHA

[@Titopaivag3]

He called the black album Metallica's self entitled album

[@Dropla]

@@Titopaivag3 Wellll, the black album was trash, so, he could have just called it that, I would have been fine with it.

[@thevisionary2007]

Yes, take a deep breth and calm down.

[@beepboop663]

same though

[@TheHistoryWaffle]

Slipknot is one if those bands that you either vibe with or don't. If you know their backstory it really helps, because they're a band that a lot of people relate to.

[@n00b_drifty70]

i agree. personally i think IOWA is their best album partially because of what happened behind the scenes and how they managed to power through it.

[@fackumon292]

Yasss

[@Dicey6969]

I don’t mind their music, they have really sad backstories. But I just prefer classic metal. i.e Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Megadeth and Slayer too. Mötley Crüe if you wanna count them too

[@hunt3r_OW]

Iowa hooked me into metal in general. The pure nihilism of that album was perfect for angsty 15 year old me just entering highschool. Still go back to that album from time to time brings back rushes of memories.

[@ericramos1916]

I’ve gone through just about the entire discography and I don’t like 99% of SlipKnot but Physcosocial is so fucking fun idk why

[@micahsnyder7299]

Fun fact: Megadeth is a technical term that’s used to measure number of casualties caused by a nuclear bomb. 1 Megadeth = 1 million deaths via nuclear bomb.

[@waxl4449]

Actually it's mega dumb

[@multslash]

Its megadeath Dave Just tossed away the "a" because its cooler without it

[@aideneberhardt6871]

I hear a meganerd

[@multslash]

@@aideneberhardt6871 meganrd

[@jamieporter7290]

And he also spelt it ‘megadeath’ in the video which is incorrect....sorry to be that guy but the metalhead inside me got triggered at this for some reason

[@angrywelshman7207]

Motörhead directly inspired Metallica so listening to them is a must in my book if you love Metallica

[@mesadrums375]

Me, a metalhead: there is no album we unanimously agree upon “Most seemed to say master of puppets” ...... damn, you won this time

[@AJY-ee7yk]

Injustice for all was better

[@moistier3333]

I prefered kill em all

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

MoP is very insane in first listen, but since it's very overplayed in my playlist i get kinda bored

[@Casketkrusher_]

Vio-Lence - Eternal Nightmare. Probably the best Thrash album ever made. Never been a huge Metallica fan and Justice is their best work in my opinion.

[@rossgriffin252]

Alief Fauzan thecat battery always does it for me, purely for the intro

[@silvera924]

You have to try Gojira, I think they are essential for getting people into heavier stuff. They are fuckin amazing

[@willgolden]

Yeah I agree completely. Flying Whales was the first song I actually loved that didn't have clean vocals

[@erikjonsson1519]

I just went in with cannibal corpse as like my first metal band I listened to and they are still one of my favorites but I get where you are coming from with Gojira because I revisited them yesterday and they are probably better if you want to into it more easily

[@Bigcheese747]

I love them

[@uwotm8]

You gotta start off with something casual and easy to get into like Infant Annihilator for example.

[@jonasbree9332]

Holy shit, don´t scare him right away. :D

[@RagingAggron]

Infant Annihilator is a bit weak. I would say The Violation by Fleshgod Apocalypse is a better start for something casual

[@TheGreatWhiteShark78]

This made me lol. The new album is sick as shit

[@vanillapaste9671]

U Wot M8? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Kogasa_Tatara]

IA is a good start for something casual but I'd say listen to some Benighted if you're looking to just kick your feet up and relax.

[@pieterk.3590]

Never heard of Guns 'n Roses as a metal band, being a metalhead.

[@Searching4CB]

Pieter K. Slash is more of the metal in GnR

[@antekm2639]

Maybe glam or hair metal idk

[@penepleto1210]

They were thrown in the metal pile by the general population a long time ago, as the hard rock/metal differences weren't that clear back then. They're definitely harder than average rock but not metal in my book. I'd say most of Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin's discography wouldn't fit in our contemporary definition of metal either, but back when they released it everything was softer and there was no way to guess how hard metal would become. I mean the "earliest" example was Helter Skelter by The Beatles of all people so

[@MrLump]

Aren’t they a t-shirt brand?

[@fsanmiguel666]

Hard rock is more like it honestly

[@ArkaeaFCL3]

I love it when someone has an open mind enough to make an effort to really explore something new. This was a cool video!

[@Jon.so.vile.]

Ayee Gojira. Hell yeah

[@Downsider24]

90's - Pantera, Emperor, Darkthrone, Blind Guardian, Iced Earth. 2000's - Lamb of God, Gojira, Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend Project, Septicflesh, Wintersun.

[@bulletfaceLP]

Everything with Devin Townsend is good, the guy is a genius.

[@chaosbringer2752]

Don't you dare forget Opeth

[@A..lie..sha3]

@@bulletfaceLP devin is beastly.

[@Andrexei000]

@@chaosbringer2752 Dude Opeth is just great

[@block4562]

Oh shit yeah Devin Townsend, I always think of him as a mad scientist of metal

[@thrashmetaldad]

This was so delightful I really wish he would do an update. Its so much fun to watch someone start getting into something you're passionate about!

[@aaradicatin12]

Yeah I'd love to see if he burst his death metal cherry and which band got him into it.

[@TemkaUwU]

@@aaradicatin12 yea i can imagine it will be something more mellow like death or obituary

[@Trifyllonews]

The album that made me a metal head is DIO - HOLY DIVER, i think it's a perfect introduction to the genre

[@s_for_short2400]

I love holy diver, the song, its one of my favourite metal songs, but i always questioned if the rest was metal. It sounded too soft.

[@Trifyllonews]

@@s_for_short2400 it is the sound of traditional heavy metal tho.

[@killar1one]

slipknot - subliminal verses, although i wasn’t born when the album come out so many songs played on the rock channels on tv and my mum was a big fan during the early 2010s

[@Will_Wel]

@@s_for_short2400 go listen to the song stand Up and shout then get back to me.

[@christianthompson7915]

as a huge metal head, i personally think the black album is a great introduction into heavy metal

[@kaedengable4318]

Alice in chains is considered as alternative metal and they’re my favourite band. They’re mainly considered grunge but alternative metal works.

[@Sh0koUN1776]

ehhh, i disagree, dont get me wrong, AIC is dope but "mostly grunge with heavy metal influence" is a better way to describe them

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

They’re grunge with metal influence. Just like Nirvana were grunge with punk and Pearl Jam were grunge with rock.

[@muslimmetalman]

​@@Ballin4Vengeancesame for soundgarden. AiC seems more thrashy and SG more Sabbathy

[@Maidenintime86]

AIC is great but too depressing hahaha, I feel a bit down after listening to them.

[@Kyle-xk4ke]

Here a few recommendations : Progressive Metal: Mastodon - Crack the Skye (personal favourite ) Tool - Lateralus Gojira - From Mars to Sirius Stoner/Doom Metal: Electric Wizard - Dopethrone Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley Should hopefully be enough for now, enjoy the journey :)

[@johna8341]

Great list here!

[@nospaddy36]

All of those albums are amazing

[@mnemosynegates625]

Good choices

[@TheMinecraftMan4Ever]

Sleep - Dopesmoker

[@glorious4897]

Melvins - Houdini is a personal fav doom metal album

[@aimbug_]

Hip Hop Fan tries metal: Metal heads: *entered the chat* edit: spelling

[@micsokoli4207]

You should try Black Metal. It's solf,relaxing,heart-warming,inspiring,motivational,emotional etc. Believe me Forgot to mention, infant annihilator would be nice to listen to

[@wornstrat5517]

Yes forced gender reassignment is a beautiful song. I saranade the ladies with it.

[@morasoftwood8224]

I propose behemoth.

[@just_another_internet_man755]

I recommend Mayhem, it's so relaxing that the singer is sleeping to this day :)

[@micsokoli4207]

@@just_another_internet_man755 they even made an album using a photo of him sleeping, what a generous and lovely band

[@ShirouTheHero]

@@micsokoli4207 don't forget that the bassist helped the guitarist fall asslepp.

[@Tears_of_Isha]

“I’m not scared of this genre anymore” wait until your turn your back on Metallica and they hit you with saint anger, you’re not ready

[@alexworkr1192]

He's going to be in for a shock.

[@arbi9506]

No one tell him about Load's album cover!

[@arash7378]

XDXD

[@mastertwitch1]

Saint Anger is like being constipated. I couldn't give a shit about it. Metallica stopped being worth the listen with And Justice For All

[@gerardcote8391]

Or Cannibal Corpse

[@somberlainnn9883]

I know you're new to the genre and all of these amazing albums, but you almost fucking killed me when you spelt megadeth like "megaDEATH" Also, some recommendations: Thrash Slayer - Raining Blood Anthrax - Among The Living Kreator - Coma Of Souls Testament - The Legacy Suicidal Tendencies - Lights, Camera, Revolution Sepultura - Arise Death metal (heavier thrash with harsher vocals) Death - Human Death - Symbolic Morbid Angel - Alters Of Madness At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul Carcass - Heartwork Entombed - Left Hand Path Bolt Thrower - For Victory Black Metal (very abrasive and raw. Its designed to be that way. Also, tread VERY carefully. Some black metal fans are very intense and defensive of the genre. If you at all try to say why you don't like the genre, they will tear you a new one) Mayhem - Deathcrush Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane Doom Metal (heavy metal but slower and more melancholy. Can have both clean and extreme vocals) Candle mass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses Sleep - Holy Mountain Electric Wizard - Dopethrone Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper Progressive Metal (pushes the boundaries of metal in terms of technicality instead of extremety, even though it can be extreme and borrow from other metal genres) Dream Theater - Images And Words Tool - Lateralus Opeth - Blackwater Park Mastodon - Crack The Skye Gojira - From Mars To Sirius Meshuggah - ObZen Cynic - Focus Metalcore (heavy metal fuzed with hardcore [a subgenre of punk and in a way, a cousin of thrash metal] once again tread very carefully. The elitists [oldheads for metal heads] absolutely HATE this genre) Killswitch Engage - The End Of Heartache Avenged Sevenfold - Waking The Fallen (probably heavier than the stuff you've heard by them) Bullet For My Valentine - Scream Aim Fire Bring Me The Horizon - Sempiternal Deathcore (death metal fuzed together with hardcore and incorporates breakdowns. This is where a bunch of the modern metal is made) Suicide Silence - The Cleansing Thy Art Is Murder - Hate Job For A Cowboy - Demonocracy Whitechapel - Our Endless War As Blood Runs Black - Allegience Black Tongue - Born Hanged Metallic Hardcore (literally hardcore bands that listen to and borrow more from metal than hardcore) Code Orange - Forever Code Orange - Underneath (literally only dropped a few weeks ago) Converge - Jane Doe Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works Knocked Loose - A Different Shade Of Blue Other (groove metal, industrial metal, power metal) Machine Head - Burn My Eyes Sepultura - Roots Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle Earth Sabaton - Heroes Dragonforce - Inhuman Rampage Rammstein - Mutter Extreme Metal (exactly what you'd expect it to be. This is the heaviest, most aggressive and most brutal forms of music ever made. I only put this in here if you really wanted to challenge yourself because this would send any new comer running to the hills [yes, that was an iron maiden pun]. Have fun with these and yes, all of these band and album names are real) Infant Annihilator - The Elysian Granderval Galleraich NAILS - You Will Never Be One Of Us Cattle Decapitation - Monolith Of Humanity Cannibal Corpse - Tomb Of The Mutilated Behemoth - The Satanist Fleshgod Apocalypse - Agony Suffocation - Effigy Of The Forgotten Carcass - Symphonies Of Sickness Devourment - Butcher The Weak Best music of last decade. Last decade had a bunch of amazing releases from both old and new bands. I've put down 10 albums which I believe were the best of last decade. Some of these are going to be underground releases and pretty extreme but I fully believe that these albums best paint a picture of 2010s metal Gojira - L'enfant Sauvage Power Trip - Nightmare Logic Deaf heaven - Sunbather Horrendous - Ecdysis Behemoth - The Satanist Carcass - Surgical Steel Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper Code Orange - Forever Mgla - Exercises In Futility Cattle Decapitation - Death Atlas Sorry for the long read but you're literally trying to cover 50 years of music history in the span of a few months. It's really not easy

[@vincentlester9684]

replying to this a few months later but this list got me into metal! thank you so much, i'm now a prog metal superfan lmao

[@alienjack6375]

you really said a few suggestions and named every metal album

[@marissa4939]

for a second I was worried Ecdysis was never going to show up on the list lol

[@user-ey8yc7st7k]

Your list threatens my manhood

[@wodenmetal5908]

I recommend Death atlas over Monolith of Inhumanity

[@junkie47]

in my honest opinion AC/DC and Guns n’ roses are hard rock, tho it’s “heavy” it doesn’t have the same type of chugging, complexity, and speed that metal bands have, guns n’ roses and ac/dc in the 80s had lots of commercial appeal and were very popular. metal was definitely a more underground thing

[@pastproject4932]

I call 80s stuff dust metal

[@ah-kulkulkan]

Influential for sure but yeah totally agree, hard rock. We just have to acknowledge that influence they had in both transitioning people to heavier music and the challenge in becoming better guitarists and more complex players.

[@calebdickerson2003]

I’ve never heard anyone call them metal, only hard rock😂

[@PinkMaggit]

I think the reason tose bands get often lumped into metal, is that you won't get shit from the "real" metal fans for liking them.

[@trinidad17]

Metal was literally the most popular genre of the 90s, after the mid 80s it was definitely not underground. Although there were the purists and snobs fans, in interviews of bands like Metalica you clearly see the bands themselves weren't even close to match the elitism of the fans, and spoke nicely about some glam or other popular metal bands. And even the "serious" metal bands were as much "posers" with their forced angry faces and rebel persona, as the ones that metal heads derided just because those bands had popular appeal. Pop bands just didn't fake it as well and played "happier" songs using major scales which was a give away lol

[@carl-fredrikmartensson9231]

At the gates "slaughter of the soul", 1995. A must! Melodic death metal

[@alexandremarchand8815]

Opeth, Mastodon, Gojira, Tool, Katatonia, Between The Buried and Me, Be'lakor, Rivers of Nihil, Cult of Luna, Alcest, Behemoth, Pallbearer, Insomnium, Agalloch, Blood Incantation, Cynic, Devin Townsend, The Ocean, Zeal and Ardor...the list goes on and on! There are so many great modern bands. The classics are great, but if you are patient modern stuff will grow on you :) The current metal scene is diverse even tho you need to go a little beyond what is mainstream to find gems ! Hope you continue your metal journey :) !

[@majakian]

Can add Jinjer to the list as well

[@gmobile6991]

i wouldnt call tool metal Id put them more in an experimental alt rock category

[@xoaquinbennett7728]

@@gmobile6991 Tool is metal, obviously, but its progmetal and they are unique, but its hard sound without using the pentathonic scale, and screamings, makes Tool a great progressive METAL band. Also their lirycs are hard, complexe and tuff like metal lirycs, and also they try to make new sounds

[@immaculateusername9457]

Death,Sabaton

[@fps_efg]

100% this list. A lot of progressive metal here and it is most likely some of the deepest metal you can find.

[@serspeny1237]

The three albums in history that actually started heavy metal as a genre 1. Black Sabbath-paranoid 2. Led Zeppelin-led zeppelin II 3. Deep Purple-in rock

[@timothyness6695]

You forgot motorhead

[@Dementat]

@@timothyness6695 no he didn't, Motorhead are awesome but the term Heavy Metal was coined about Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple, while Sabbath was the first to openly commit to it

[@Dementat]

Although I will say I think he picked out the wrong Deep Purple album, Machine head is way more important than In Rock

[@Solid_Garlic]

I prefer the less “thrashy” stuff, I prefer deep purple, led zeppelin and black sabbath for some reason

[@serspeny1237]

@@Dementat I picked In Rock because all of the three albums were released around the same time(69 to 70 era). They were the three albums at that time that popularized the heavy and aggressive style of sound.

[@dagbertwilliams1681]

I would really recommend the industrial genre. Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Einstruzende Neubaten, Pailhead, Lard, Revolting Cocks, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, Foetus and others. The blend of electronic, metal, and noise was my 90s sound.

[@doomguyjustnotthecoolone2931]

I know you didn’t purposely exclude Rammstein for the Industrial side of metal

[@samothy6118]

Industrial is so cool, skinny puppy sounded like nothing else I had ever heard when I found them

[@Anonymous-wb3nz]

Hell yes!

[@stevenhenderson1198]

NIN has my upvote

[@shhkyler]

Glad to see Revolting Cocks + Rammstein. Some of the industrial samples in Pop Will Eat Its Self are great too

[@carlosdiego2332]

Megadeth: one million deaths -usually used as a unit in reference to nuclear warfare.

[@nigelnash7516]

I'm a Deth fan and I genuinely didn't know that

[@FutileGrief]

"Metal: a Headbanger's Journey" is the documentary *YOU NEED* ! Trust me. The Metal world goes above and beyond anything you mentioned here. We live in a golden age of metal. No, seriously. It may not be on the radio, but Metal has never been this interesting or diverse. Welcome! ♥ (Seriously watch that doc)

[@JohnBrutalizesYouth]

That one person is right !

[@msjuju1109]

I agree. There’s TOO many sub genres and it’ll get overwhelming for a new person.

[@hectorcastillo1792]

I second this! I hope he sees this and watches it!

[@christofferridderland6521]

The fact that you categorized Slayer, Metallica and Megadeth together made me very happy!

[@andyb1653]

Get anthrax in there and we got us a big 4 tour!

[@christofferridderland6521]

@@andyb1653 hell yes!

[@bellisskillz8876]

Death - The Sound of perseverance Dying Fetus - Grotesque Implement Slipknot - Self Titled Lamb of God - Ashes of the wake Behemoth - The Satanist Bloodbath - Nightmares made flesh

[@cawashka]

The Slipknot self titled album might be the best for a hip hop head imo

[@cawashka]

Nevermind, he doesn’t like Slipknot lol

[@dystopiant7793]

Whitechapel - This is Exile

[@bobunitone]

Ah, a man of taste

[@Naruto735]

Great albums but those are all going to be very harsh for someone who doesn't already like metal.

[@dot555666777]

So starting from the late 80s to 2000s, I'd say there were 3 major developments outside of the classic/thrash metal you listened to that you seem to have missed. 1. Metalcore This is metal combined with hardcore punk from the late 80s. This music generally features breakdowns, and fast sections reminiscent of hardcore punk riffs from bands like black flag and minor threat. Albums I'd recommend are Converge - Jane Doe, Poison the Well - Opposite of December, Botch - We Are the Romans, and more recently Knocked Loose - A Different Shade of Blue from last year. The general impression among metal fans of metalcore is unreasonably negative, I'd say. Most of the bands that developed from this genre in the mid 2000s like Bring me the horizon, August Burns Red, As I Lay Dying and Parkway Drive are seen as being for angsty warped tour-going teenagers with scene hair and emo clothes, though I think a lot of the earlier stuff from the genre is great. [Some bands from this thread of music are called math-core sometimes, this basically refers to the odd and changing time signatures they use to create a chaotic sound] 2. Nu metal The embarrassing cousin of metal that is mostly looked back at with cringe. This is metal mixed with hip hop, starting in the early-mid 90s. There are very good albums from this genre that I'd recommend like Rage Against the Machine - s/t , System of a Down - Toxicity and Deftones - White Pony. The most famous bands from this genre would be Linkin Park(early) , Limp Bizkit, Slipknot and Korn. Musically, its characterised by heavily Hip-Hop influenced drumming, and down-tuned rhythm-focused guitar riffs that have a huge but monotone sound. The vocalists can be especially cringey, a prime example being Fred Durst from Limp Bizkit's rapping. 3. Extreme Metal - Namely Death Metal and Black Metal The most complex, heaviest and by far the genres with the most material. I can see fans being pissed that I put them together, but hear me out. These 2 genres are products of seeing just how far "heaviness" in metal can go, hence the "extreme" label. This question received 2 different answers, hence the split to the 2 genres. Basically Death Metal - Speed and Complexity and Black Metal - Evil and Depressing Atmosphere. a) Death Metal Recommended: Death - Symbolic and Cannibal Corpse - The Bleeding. Very fast and complex, with Blast Beats - basically a drummer going as fast as humanly possible with lyrics often about explicit violence. More Popular and pioneered in America. b) Black Metal Probably the most infamous genre of music, period, given the amount of genuine Nazis, Satanists and Church Burners in the genre. The Drums are fast, but the guitars are used to create an atmosphere of evil, with complexity thrown out the window. Its like metal's version of lo-fi or shoegaze. Depressive and satanic lyrics. Deafheaven is considered part of this genre, but is absolutely hated by the hardcore fans of the genre. Recommended: Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon, Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness, Behemoth - The Satanist. Essentially in Death Metal, the hate is directed outward - to the world, wanting to destroy it and cause violence to others, but in Black Metal the hate is directed inward, with depressive and suicidal lyrics and atmosphere. Death Metal is more popular in the US and Black Metal in Europe - read into the cultural differences as much as you like **Extra Notes** -A genre with "technical" written in front of it generally means that the genre is a more "wanky" or complex version of the original genre. -Progressive Metal is what progressive rock is to rock (Rec: Opeth - Blackwater Park) -Djent is closely related to Mathcore, with odd time signature, but this time not used to create a chaotic atmosphere, and gets its name from the low guitar tone that characterises the genre. (Can hear it on eg. Meshuggah - Stengah, that low, bending sound) -Folk Metal = Folk+Metal -Power Metal = "motivational metal" - heroic lyrics and guitar leads about wars, heroism and fantasy. -Stoner/Doom Metal - Slow, thick guitar riffs that create the feeling of being high, Master of Reality is similar to this (Rec: Sleep - Holy Mountain) -Groove/Southern Metal - Rythmic-focused riffs with a lot of sliding , Pantera is in this genre

[@EternalEpure]

Great write up, home it gains more traction.

[@colbyfarnham3859]

Was thinking about writing a similar comment. Thanks for doing the hard work! I hope he sees something like this because to appreciate metal as a whole it is important to hear how different it can all sound, and we all know the amount of subgenres is absurd.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

LOL. Slipknot and System of a Down are cringy? Ok pal. What's cringy is the atonal screeching that counts as 'singing' now.

[@confusedturtle55]

It's great to know all this stuff. Everyone's gotta find their niche in metal.

[@dot555666777]

@@Jordan-Ramses Oh sorry if it came off that way. Since he was asking how various bands/genres are seen by the metal community, I have to admit that although some excellent music came out of nu metal, the genre as a whole (especially the derivative stuff later) isnt seen very positively by most metalheads. By "cringe" I mean stuff like mudvayne, puddle of mudd, godsmack, disturbed. Love system of a down and slipknot btw

[@ECGgroup]

Hey man, You've stumbled your way into a bit of a feud within the metal community. Ie what is metal and what isn't. There's a term used a lot, "pure metal" or "true metal" that people often use to discount various forms or subgenres that they don't count as real metal. An example of this would be glam metal (eg Motley Crue) or nu metal (Korn). But realistically everything is lumped together under the overarching genre "metal". The term heavy metal wasn't actually applied to the earlier tracks that we now consider to be heavy metal. The term actually came from a lyric in Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild and was then used by a journalist to refer to music with a heavy sound and tone. There a plenty of examples of early metal but Black Sabbath is definitely the father of metal, basically responsible for multiple subgenres and setting the overall theme that would be present in heavy metal from then on. One track that is worth mentioning is Blue Cheer's Summertime Blues. Give that a listen. But from there you have bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Deep Purple incorporate progressive and heavy elements into their music. Even if the band themselves isn't purely a metal band, they definitely contributed heavily to the formation of the genre. Coming into the late 70s and early 80s you had bands starting to push the boundaries of guitar playing and the technology on offer to the limit. Giving us an even more distorted sound and faster guitar playing. This is probably the first sub genre of heavy metal that came about. Trash. And that's what bands like Slayer, Metallica and Anthrax are. Rather than making this a short novel I thought I'd quickly go over a few prominent subgenres of metal and a few notable bands (maybe an album or two) for you to check out. Its also worth noting that most bands in metal don't strictly adhere to one subgenre but like to incorporate elements of multiple. In no particular order: Nu Metal (formed in the 90s blending metal with influences from the hip hop scene). Bands include Korn and Limp Bizkit. I'd listen to Korn's Take a Look in the Mirror (purely because that's my favourite). Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory. Alternative Metal (very similar to grunge to be honest). Bands like Alice in Chains fit this subgenre. Black Metal (not a fan of this genre myself but has a huge following). Give a listen to Emperor: IX Equilibrium. Darkthrone is another example and there's quite a few of their tracks I like. Celtic Frost, Immortal, Bathory are more well known black metal bands. Death Metal (tends to have the classic cookie monster vocal style). Bands like Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation and Deicide fit this genre. I'd recommend Suffocation's self titled album. Great listen back to front. Groove Metal (probably the sub genre that really got me into listening to and wanting to explore metal further than the nu metal that was popular when I was growing up). This is really defined by chugging riffs that have a real groove to them and make you want to move. Bands such as Lamb of God fit this genre well. Doom Metal (often characterised by slow droning chords and even lower tunings, although drone is arguably its own subgenre). This is a genre Black Sabbath is directly responsible for. See Sunn O))) and Earth. Industrial Metal was popular in the 90s along with Nu Metal. Bands like White Zombie (Rob Zombie), Rammstein, Fear Factory and Marilyn Mason are the most famous. Metalcore (this is more 2000s now and blends elements of death metal with punk and rock). Bands such as Killswitch Engage pioneered this subgenre. Other popular examples include Atreyu, Trivium and Bullet for My Valentine. Symphonic Metal (uses orchestral elements). See Nightwish, Within Temptation. Power Metal and Speed Metal. See DragonForce. Stoner Metal (and psychedelic metal, use often slow riffs like doom but have a more cheerful tone (cheerful for metal) and generally have blues as an influence as well as using retro style vocals). Examples include Electric Wizard, Acid Witch, Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats, Cybernetic Witchcult. Progressive Metal (generally characterised as using a lot of elements common and uncommon in other metal genres and blending them as well as using odd time signatures, complex structures and all around songs that are designed to take the listener on a journey). Check out Gojira's From Mars to Sirius, anything from Tool and Opeth. I know I've left multi subgenres out, such as viking, pirate, folk etc. But it's already an essay. Happy to discuss it further and for anyone else to add in their opinions/correct me if you think I'm wrong etc. It's a discussion. Enjoy the metal.

[@benhickerson6695]

Matthew Edwards Rap-Metal for example early Linkin Park. Like the name says its a blending of the 2 genres

[@jo3nriqueenrique168]

Dude how long took this comment to wright 😂😂😂

[@IrateWizrd]

I would argue that things like pirate and viking metal all fall into either power or folk metal or maybe a blend of the two, they're mostly different thematically and don't differentiate themselves enough musically to be their own subgenre.

[@tylerpike1625]

"See DragonForce" Don't do this to yourself. See Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, Edguy, Angra, Hammerfall, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica.... Anything but DragonForce.

[@probablynotdad6553]

Pirate, Viking, Cowboy, etc are all theme metal. They don't typically share anything but having a theme, Alestorm vs Sabaton for instance have little in common.

[@khorneflakes2175]

Here's my take on your questions : - ACDC and G&R are not metal, at all, they're hard rock with some punchy lyrics. - Pantera suffered from irregularity, they've got a few really awesome songs mixed into pretty mediocre albums, the singer definitely has a monstruous potential (cemetary gates, 5 minutes alone) and they had Dimebag, who's considered one of the (if not straight up the) best metal guitarist ever. - Slipknot and Disturbed are awesome, the other mentions are medium at best, i can't stand avenged sevenfold and i've never met a hardcore fan of them older than 16. - I do not like Judas Priest stuff that much either, the singer's voice and demeanor scream punk. - Please listen to more Iron Maiden, Bruce is such a powerhouse of a singer and their songs are genuinly interesting to listen to. - Do yourself a favor and listen to Rammstein. - Most metal heads i know absolutely love hip-hop (mostly old school stuff), most hip-hop heads i know despise metal, i don't know why but it is something i've seen throughout my life. - It's not about being "that guy" there's very little i find enjoyable in today's music, you don't have to like everything, you don't have to like what's new and trending, i'd rather turn my musical interest towards real classics and learn the history of music than force myself to listen to what's pop nowadays just to be included in the conversation.

[@edenjamesis2398]

I never understood the strong dislike towards Avenged Sevenfold

[@chillychese]

@@edenjamesis2398 same

[@edenjamesis2398]

@@chillychese growing up my intro to metal. They were the starters for me and only a handful of A7X fans were around the metal community I was in

[@chillychese]

@@edenjamesis2398 slipknot got me into metal but avenged was definitely in my top 10

[@edenjamesis2398]

@@chillychese agreed felt the same way with slipknot. Just wish there was a satisfied explanation

[@Juan-ir2rh]

If the band makes you hesitant about classifying then as metal than it’s probably not metal

[@zsjb_]

I mean a lot of people would argue that even iron maiden are hard rock, I guess the line between classic metal and hard rock can get blurry at times

[@psychoticbreaks167justletm4]

I dont know if thats true anymore. There used to be this whole purist deal but now things are so open I couldnt condense what metal today sounds like. Its more mindset than sound these days. Almost anything can be metal.

[@mot0rdeth]

@@s_for_short2400 bruh

[@Will_Wel]

@@zsjb_ growing up at the time I would absolutely disagree and say iron maiden is the prototypical (original version of) heavy metal sounding band. Black Sabbath invented the sound that became heavy metal but was before the term existed so would probably have been called hard Rock. But not iron maiden.

[@zsjb_]

@@Will_Wel there is zero doubt in my mind that maiden is metal, and sabbath too I'd say, but I'm pointing out that many people argue that the first real metal bands were thrash like Metallica and megadeth. I think that's utter bs tho, sabbath is the first metal band

[@Arbiter099]

gonna recomend Sabaton, swedish power metal band playing songs about military history

[@Vermbraunt]

I recommend them too

[@bobesponja7791]

I also recommend

[@TechNizzle88]

I 5th this

[@DutchDread]

I 6th this, it might not be for him, but if this is for you, then GOD DAMNIT is it for you!

[@OPZero1301]

Sabaton, Powerwolf, Dragonforce 😍❤️😍❤️

[@xxjonah98xx11]

Damn man you need to listen to more of what Korn has to offer, and DEFINITELY classic Deftones.. but I do like those newer bands, you gotta delve deeper into their works. Kinda hurts me to hear 90s and early 2000s bands being thrown under the bus.. that’s my childhood and still a part of my adult life. Please reconsider checking them out more.

[@stevenhenderson1198]

Deftones is in my recommended as well, important to note that they are more grunge then metal. Love that band.

[@greasemaster614]

Resident metalhead here: There are definitely some bands that people will say aren't metal because people think they aren't good, but you don't get to decide if a band fits into a genre because you don't like them. Guns n' Roses, on the other hand, is 100% a rock band. Google has swindled you, nobody really considers gnr to be metal.

[@zyuranger21]

14:39 Those bands like Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, etc, only seemed like fads because the gatekeepers and critics hated it coz it was so new and created a new sound (nu metal), so they convinced all metal fans that they didn't count. So these bands had to change their style to make the gatekeepers happy. But now all these bands are loved and respected by the fans, bands, and the gatekeepers.

[@PA551ON]

Yeah they kinda lead him astray on that one. Every metalhead that I've ever known including myself appreciates all those bands.

[@brooksmullen5426]

Slipknot is still very popular today though

[@zyuranger21]

@@brooksmullen5426 I never said they weren't.

[@xxbos5xx]

Thank you for defending them Nu metal is fun

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

It’s also that Nu-metal also mixed in some rap/hip-hop elements, be it thematically, sound-wise or vocally, so it might be a bit of a bridge between rap and metal. A lot of songs are basically rap with metal riffs under it

[@chriscueva1866]

"Run for the hills sounds fun" it's about genocide 🤣🤣🤣

[@SamuelSouza-di6nq]

Still sounds fun

[@VxssxlSlxyer]

You can tell this guy is new when he writes "Megadeth" as "Megadeath"

[@gerardcote8391]

Blame Spell checker. I spell it right and Autocorrect always changes the spelling.

[@daniiiba2633]

Some songs to get into heavier subgenres: Mastodon: The Czar Fear Factory: Descend Dope: Paranoia All That Remains: Focus Shall Not fail Death: Crystal Mountain Gojira: Pain is a Master Falkenbach: Bluot Fuer Bluot Carach Angren: The Carriage Wheel Murder Batushka: Yekteniya 7

[@JerichoScale]

I'm all aboard on The Czar. GOD I love that track.

[@CoDwithSwords]

Mastadon and Gojira, my man.

[@lithoodievlogs467]

If you're gonna give him "Batushka" then given him bands such as " Sleep", "OM" and "Electric Wizard"

[@ivanserna1577]

Holy shit, another person who's listened to Dope?!?!

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

I'd Add Dana Dan by Bloodywood to this list

[@anonymousrabbit3519]

Nobody in the comments is mentioning Mastodon. They are one of the best metal bands ever and almost certainly the best from the last 20 years.

[@waltertrusevych2954]

Yeah and Nobody mentioned Man 'O' War either, what's your point?

[@thetiniestcar1]

SOAD, Korn, and Seether are my personal favorite from the last 20 years, but you are entitled to your opinion.

[@kristinfarr9684]

That is exactly what I was thinking

[@predatorhunter3169]

Eh mastodon is alright

[@vik8596]

Too much happening in too little time imo. Not even a live show could convince me (I was there for Opeth though)

[@danielkong5471]

System of a Down - Toxicity is a masterpiece

[@TheFrostbite324]

I'm mainly a hip hop and Indie/Alternative guy myself but I've always liked System of a Down, especially Toxicity. I think its mainly because that album covers topics about problems with America similarly to a lot of my favorite hip hop songs. Plus, I love how bipolar each song is, making the whole album feel like a rollercoaster ride of sorts.

[@OzwalR]

Mesmerize / Hypnotize are brilliant as well

[@jeeology8574]

@@OzwalR I mean they don't really have a bad album imho

[@bexiemounne7781]

Well, nothing well ever really beat their first record. If you didn't listened to it, I highly reccomend it. The punk influences, the rawness, the vocal delivery, the mixing, the tracklist.... I do not listen to Toxicity no more.

[@jeeology8574]

@@bexiemounne7781 I'm a mezmerize kinda person myself. Immense range of influences among the tracks, from techno to reggae. The rest of the album's have one or two tracks I dislike but that has literally none.

[@skateup2291]

Great video. I’m a massive classic rock and metal fan. Cool to hear a actual opinion not some fake reaction.

[@stuartwilliams3206]

The most problem my rap friends have with metal and rock, is the length of the song. Most of the songs my friends listen can hardly cross mark of 3 minutes. And I can listen to the song on repeat that is 13 minutes. Plus my friends(don’t have anyone irl listening to metal and rock) always insulting my music taste and making excuses for nothing. It’s really upsetting me(

[@gerardcote8391]

They wouldn't like Prog or Symphonic Metal. Some of those songs run 20 minutes plus.

[@juanguillen51]

@@gerardcote8391 besides with prog, they wouldn't get the appeal of odd times

[@tysonevarard968]

13 minutes? Psshaaw! *Laughs in doom metal* In all seriousness though, don't take what people say about your music taste seriously. Because in reality, in terms of preferences and music taste, it's all subjective.

[@soccer_mom_3873]

Excuse the arrogance but They are smooth-brained basic bitches who struggle to understand musical story telling and/or experiences and also have seizures if a lyric in a MINUTE long song features more than three syllables. I like some rap if that doesn’t make me any less arrogant

[@stuartwilliams3206]

@@tysonevarard968 ya I listen to doom metal sometimes)

[@boisjoliwales9164]

I recommend Gojira. Very technical and heavy with some death metal elements and the drummer kicks ass as well!

[@heythemsmida-guesmi7943]

The way you described War Pigs as a map for Master of Puppets is beautiful.

[@thefolder69]

A newer Metal band that I love is Sabaton, a Swedish band that sings of history. It's not grungey, it's catchy and powerful and the stories told are great. A lot of Metalheads don't like them, but idk I thought I'd suggest.

[@edibleandsentientautomobil5396]

It's not that new but they are pretty awesome, their songs show their genuine love for history

[@dovahkiin5902]

"Korn being on the best of anything seems like a joke" Holy shit dude lol Guessing you weren't a fan? Korn is well respected though.

[@kennymoore7546]

Older Korn. I don't like the new stuff, after take a look in the mirror

[@b.e.z6831]

I think he is talking about their name?

[@JustThinkAboutIt2681]

@@kennymoore7546 the nothing and serenity of suffering are their most recent stuff and it's super good

[@JC_Soulless]

Outside of the heavy metal bubble, Korn is seen as a joke. They're looked at as the weird child among the bigger names like Metallica and Black Sabbath. They're like the Nickelback of the bunch to most people.

[@JustThinkAboutIt2681]

@@JC_Soulless but honestly I think they're better in terms of how powerful their lirycs are and they're rythm is better in MY opinion

[@trolled6720]

Some personal favorites: Judas Priest- Defenders of the Faith Black Sabbath- S/T Iron Maiden- Killers Megadeth- Peace Sells King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard- Infest the Rat's Nest Death- Symbolic Venom- Welcome to Hell Bruce Dickinson- The Chemical Wedding Rainbow- Rising (Not sure if this one counts as metal) Rage Against the Machine- S/T Lost Horizon- A Flame to the Ground Beneath DIO- Holy Diver Nile- Annihilation of the Wicked

[@maceoflux6474]

Great list. I would say Rainbow's "Rising" definitely counts as metal.

[@kasPWI]

So you put Nile on there but not Origin's Anthithesis? Or Entity?

[@jallen1754]

"I'm not scared of this genre anymore." Well boys, I think he's ready for Deicide

[@aintydwarf]

I think he is ready for that mayhem album cover

[@CrowleyWill]

@@aintydwarf bruhhh dawn of the blackhearts 😫

[@choirsofdeath]

LUNATIC, OF GOD'S CREATION

[@maddogg6298]

Cannibal corpse

[@aintydwarf]

Let’s show him behemoth aswell

[@aidenyoo2906]

The key to getting a rap fan into Metal is "Nu Metal". The secret to getting a Metal fan into rap is "tech n9ne".

[@aidenyoo2906]

@@SonicObscurum granted it's not my favorite but it's not that bad either when done correctly. Just look at Slipknot, Rage Against, so on. Nu Metal is a hip-hop, metal, fusion. So if you're a rap fan trying to get into Metal than it's a good place to start. That's all I'm saying.

[@gabrielventura2510]

@@aidenyoo2906 Rage isn't really Nu Metal, as the genre didn't even exist when they started. But Rage really is a good start for someone who likes Rap to get into Metal, as the Hip Hop influence is so obvious and at the same time it's a really good band, unlike most Nu Metal bands, that, as the other comment said, are horrible.

[@aidenyoo2906]

@@gabrielventura2510 I don't know about rage not being nu Metal just because it wasn't classified until after there time. But I can agree with most else. Most nu Metal bands leave alot to be desired. A rap-rock/Metal fusion is hard to pull off and fue do it well. I consider rage to be among those that do.

[@gabrielventura2510]

@@aidenyoo2906 well, Rage was a predecessor to Nu Metal, but they weren't necessarily Nu Metal. Rap and Metal had merged before Rage, especially Anthrax's partnership with Public Enemy and Body Count were already merging Rap and Metal. Rage followed that steps adding a funky sound resulted by their influence of bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers. Although Nu Metal is known by having bands that combined Rap and Metal, that wasn't necessarily an essential thing for all the bands, as bands like Slipknot, Disturbed or SOAD have little to none Rap characteristics on their songs. So, I view Rage more as Funk/Rap Metal band that later were a influence to Nu Metal

[@aidenyoo2906]

@@gabrielventura2510 fair points, I'll have to learn more about the genre's history before I decide for myself, but I'll consider.

[@UrbanistWaldeinsamkeit]

GNR don't count as metal, they're just hard rock. Not that that's a bad thing, to be sure. As for your question about Avenged Sevenfold, Korn, etc., they're not my cup of tea, but you do you. Keep in mind, though, there are MANY modern bands. If you like thrash, I'd recommend modern bands like Vektor, Toxic Holocaust (ikr) and Havok .

[@micahparks869]

Ghoul is also a great modern band

[@derekcleffi6476]

Municipal waste is also good modern thrash, and terrifier’s weapons of thrash destruction is not bad

[@oskarstrom4034]

You never mentioned Dio. He was the greatest of the metal gods.

[@findorbed]

I do agree, but man... You can't do that to Lemmy. They both are on the level :)

[@fnors2]

@@findorbed In the living legends, there's also Devin Townsend to consider.

[@uoabigaillevey]

@@fnors2 I was so gonna suggest DTP or Strapping Young Lad... or both, really. And bands like Jinjer and Gojira. Maybe even Meshuggah. Could have also suggested a mathcore band.. iwresledabearonce. Or something more sinister like Possessed. Infant Annihilator would be a good one to suggest also lol.

[@crappyaccount]

Dio was the Freddie Mercury of metal

[@cousinit666]

He was a goofy little elf.

[@DarkKnight6six6]

Can't recommend Opeth enough, I recommend their album Ghost Reveries in particular. Always love to see people checking out new genres!

[@tovubek8287]

Some album suggestion Death - The Sound of Perseverance Converge - All we Love we Leave Behind Agalloch - The Mantlr

[@____smith]

Agalloch is the shit

[@breakbearrr]

@@____smith Death might be a bit much for someone who's a bit put off by complicated/busy stuff

[@____smith]

@@breakbearrr Well, he enjoyed Rust in Peace which is a pretty damn technical album, and he loved Sunbather too, which is busy and extreme, so I think he'd be alright lol

[@Abasedbymygrief]

Id say Jane Doe by Converge would be a better start

[@sofiarune3124]

That is Agalloch most overated album

[@leongouzinis4521]

It’s a process, I started with foo fighters and made my way through bands like muse and then up to slipknot. The heavier you go the more experience you will need with other types of metal. Don’t make a massive step from Metallica to slipknot and then feel as if you won’t understand it. After some time and knowledge you will recognize how good all metal is, like how all hip hop is :D

[@Cruiser052]

Yes, absolutely, progression must be maintained from lighter to heavier. You're not going to drop someone into the harder subgenres and expect it to click... though I do enjoy making my country music coworkers listen to death metal on occasion. It's fun (turn about is fair play).

[@ianhutchinson2283]

Definitely. I've sort of identified "stages" of my metal listening where I had to really appreciate one set of bands before I could begin to enjoy the next. I started out with stuff like Muse, Audioslave, and Evanescence as the heavier side of my rock playlist, after a couple of years I stumbled upon Disturbed, A7X, and Godsmack which is when I got a lot more serious about listening to metal, and even then it took another year before I could start to like Five Finger Death Punch and Slipknot. I can name songs that I didn't like at first (Fake It, Duality) that I notably disliked and cast off at first but then came around to love in the next "stage" of my taste.

[@daxmj09]

I just listen to what I want in metal lol. I transitioned from Slipknot to many bands that may have a lighter or darker sound. I don't mind quick transitions from bands, I'm thrilled by it. I never expected Dream Theater to be that good when I first listened to them. Stream Of Consciousness is my fave song from them. I'd say it's more of an instrumental but still, never expected to like that band

[@Cruiser052]

@@ianhutchinson2283 my first metal band, aside from what came on the classic rock station back in the day, was Megadeth. From there I've learned to appreciate almost all metal.

[@the_maskjs]

No it there dont has to be a progression. For example I got from Dubstep to Slipknot to other metal bands to Desert Rock or Stoner Rock to Jimi Hendrix to Pink Floyd. But I do agree that some people need that progression, but others(like I) dont.

[@youngjiggymf1704]

Rage against the machine, System of a Down, deftones, maybe even some jinjer because some of their groves. U might really enjoy those bands considerin ur passion for hip hop

[@johngiorgas9997]

Man I love ratm but they ain't metal ... right? Great thinking about hip hop tho!

[@youngjiggymf1704]

@@johngiorgas9997 Prolly not but I’m just throwing them in their cuz most of those bands blew up during the whole rap/metal & groove era

[@JaceFincham]

@@johngiorgas9997 I count RATM as rap-metal

[@strawberrywigz1658]

@@johngiorgas9997 deftones is metal.

[@Diskode48]

@@johngiorgas9997 they are definitely metal the instrumental is metal they are a rap metal band

[@fonzyandcompany]

Dude, as a guy (and now subscriber) who is in the same boat as you accept switch around the hip hop with Rock/Metal/Punk etc I can really respect anybody who is willing to go out of their way to at least spread their awareness of music in general. Just taking the honest approach and getting out of that one track mind is admirable. Your logic, arguments and level headed opinions is very refreshing to see. Keep it up.

[@fonzyandcompany]

Also, Rap Metal? Possibly the best of both worlds for you? Rage Against The Machine, Body Count (Ice T's band dating back late 80s), Limp Bizkit (though their a very marmite band for metal heads) and Skindred (to some extent) maybe a good way to go.

[@user-bp9zj9xs2y]

Some bands that you might want to hear: Rainbow Dio (The singer is one of the most important figures in the heavy metal history) Deep Purple Alice in Chains have some heavy metal theme Motorhead Sabaton

[@randomhalf-mapplesiruphalf1666]

papaespinho lokojola Slipknot Avenged Sevenfold Amon Amarth

[@righthere27]

W.A.S.P. Grim Reaper Accept

[@gymshorts2tight382]

Sabaton

[@2404Vampire]

I am a bit late with this comment, but I just found the video and I wanted to praise your willingness to dive into the genre and I am glad you liked some of it. As someone who listens to metal almost my whole life, gotta say, there is so much more to it - power, gothic, symphonic, black, death, industrial and much more with every subgenre offering different sounds and themes. I hope you get to it eventually, till then, enjoy your new favourite bands and I hope I see a similar video sometime in the future :) \../

[@bvmangas]

Ok, i know what you into, so listen up: - Slayer: Show no mercy; Seasons in the Abyss - Metal Church: Metal Church; Blessing in Disguise - Megadeth: Countdown to Extinction; Youthanasia - Iced Earth: The Dark Saga; Horror Show - Blind Guardian: Somewhere Far Beyond; Nightfall in Middle-Earth - Manowar: Warriors of the World; Kings Of Metal - Iron Maiden: Somewhere in Time; Seventh Son of a Seventh Son - Testament: The Ritual; The New Order - Anthrax: Among the Living; Volume 8: The Threat Is Real - Kreator: Extreme Aggression; Violent Revolution - Black Sabbath: Sabotage; Heaven and Hell - Pantera: Cowboys from Hell; Far Beyond Driven - WASP: Inside the Electric Circus; The Crimson Idol - Savatage: Hall of the Mountain King; Handful of Rain - Suicidal Tendencies: The Art of Rebellion ; How Will I Laugh Tomorrow this is just for warm-up :)

[@Ufphen]

I think Savatage is one of the best intro to heavy metal bands, because they do have some ballads which can help someone get into the band's sound but they still have really good thrash sounding metal songs.

[@razagan1343]

don't forget rammstein

[@IXorchard9XI]

90s and 00s metal bands to check out: More Pantera Opeth Death Lamb of god Killswitch engage

[@Jablan11]

Opeth and Death can be a bit rough for new listeners, good list though

[@precise1329]

I wanted to kick in under this thread because it's the first one that mentioned Killswitch Engage. I'm still unsure how anyone considers Ghost metal aside from their imagery, which is listed in higher engaged posts above. That aside, Opeth and Lamb of God maaaaaaaaay be a bit much for a new listener who has already found his/her roots in Metallica - Master of Puppets. I always always always recommend Mastadon. New listeners should also at least be exposed to 'one hit wonders' like Dragon Force. I'm sure I will get flamed on for recommending this, but do a search for "guitar hero warriors of rock" and find the play list. Only halfish of these songs are even considered Metal. But, the songs listed show the direction of Metal or Rock at the time and can lead down the dark rabbit hole and help understand how Metal took the turns it did when it did.

[@AZirk1997]

@@Jablan11 I bought an extra ticket to see Opeth and gave it to whoever wanted to go with me because I don't know anyone who likes them. I took my cousin who likes a lot of classic heavy metal stuff so not sure if he counts as a "new listener", but he really enjoyed the concert without any context of death metal.

[@abmutes3533]

Don’t forget Primus

[@metalmanny666]

Riley Orchard don’t forget about Iced Earth.

[@biblicaladrian6007]

6 years since discovering Metal Barley listens to Rap now Listening to Rap now Just Feels like driving a Chevy Camaro when owning a Ferrari, just isn't the same for me like before

[@kanyesouth1631]

I would highly recommend "infest the rat's nest" by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard

[@Quickestpie]

Motorhead is a must listen, they were a HUGE influence on metal and pushed the whole genre to new places

[@poet_of_the_apocalypse9850]

Listening to shoegaze facilitated my transition into black/doom metal. I started with Slowdive and progressed gradually towards Deafheaven.

[@bagrat6085]

In terms of genre seems like what interests you is Classic Metal and Thrash Metal whereas you're not a fan of Groove or Nu Metal. In terms of bands you need to check out System of a Down, Sepultura, Death, Mastodon, Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Deaftones, Type O Negative, Gojira, Alice in Chains, and Kyuss. I also more personally recommend Opeth, Electric Wizard, White Zombie, and Strapping Young Lad. PS the 90s is where metal really started to fragment into it's sub genres so if you don't have an idea of what these sub genres are and which ones you're trying to listen to you can hear a lot of wildly different music from all over the spectrum and I recommend you take a look into this before going further

[@capitaen_proton9480]

I would also add bands like dark tranquillity, Epica, Nightwish, Arch Enemy, Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth and Lacuna Coil to create a larger overview

[@holland883]

He likes rap so body count and linkin park might be interesting. It is also worth checking out powermetal bands like blind guardian, sabaton and powerwolf.

[@miguel-vo1cb]

Listen to king gizzards latest record

[@hegleevangelista7141]

They are so many types of metal. I love symphonic metal, power metal and melodic metal 🤷 so the journey goes a little deeper

[@tidloc]

I see your point for Slipknot, it's not for everyone, as they and KoRN more or less defined the Nu Metal Genre... But for someone coming from Hip Hop/Rap, maybe you can identify yourself more with "Spit It Out" by Slipknot? for more Bands, of the softer side: (no paticular order, just as they came into my mind) - Nightwish - Alestorm - Babymetal and of the a little harder side: - Jinjer - Amon Amarth - Trivium - Heaven Shall Burn

[@drinibuzali1289]

Michael Friedl maybe even gojira but the"from mars to sirius"album

[@BenightedSouls]

No Life - Slipknot

[@gro_skunk]

Oh man Amon Amarth, so good.

[@greggflynn2423]

Like for Baby Metal, maybe not serious metal, but so fun!

[@brokkoli3245]

i am not familiar with the modern NIghtwish, but under Tarja they werent metal but Alternative Rock, atleast id categorize them as such. are the new albums good?

[@muvbuf1]

Suggestions: Porcupine Tree, Katatonia, Anathema, Opeth, Riverside, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Primus, Gojira, Ihsahn, Leprous, Neurosis, TesseracT, Dream Theater, Mastodon, and Cult of Luna.

[@GarboSweaty]

You, sir, are very smart and good.

[@tylerpike1625]

This person knows what's up.

[@pseudoillusion2556]

Porcupine Tree feels like dark/depressing rock. I like it though.

[@ezramalzbender7934]

I would love to hear his opinion on Gojira.

[@jimhiggins8642]

Mastodon is amazing. One of the first bands I really got into, especially their trippy videos.

[@davequiquegg]

As you’ve said before: context is king. Something like White Pony by Deftones has a lot more appeal in the context of what the band was going through and takes the lyrics from just a bunch of words into the really twisted and dark underbelly of music. Watching the documentary on the making of any Slipknot album will help you see what they bring and achieve in their music and the context it grew from. Context is king here in metal. There’s a lot of escapism in metal too. The full throttle tension in the verse then the release of the chorus. Musically or lyrically, the themes give the listener power and agency through speed, attack and delivery. Whatever the listener is experiencing, they can latch onto something in metal and transcend it for a few minutes. This stands at juxtaposition to the lyrical storytelling realness of hip hop that works on relatability and matches that with groove to build a community, it’s cathartic in the same way that hanging out with your friends will make you feel better; you’re free to be yourself. Metal is cathartic in the same way that boxing is: you’re free to release yourself.

[@matthewjesus1630]

I don't normally comment on videos but as a fan of both hip-hop and heavy metal I love this. There is a great docuseries from VH1 called "Heavy the Story of Metal" 10/10 would recommend you watching it. It explains the beginning from Black Sabbath, to why British Steel sounds different than Master of Puppets and also the different sub-genres of metal. It is a little older, I believe it was made in mid 2000s but I would 100% recommend it to help you get through the heavy metal landscape.

[@buns9022]

Guns N' Roses aren't a Metal Band, they are what's called "Ugly Hard Rock" Think your average glam metal band, but with a little bit more grittiness in it.

[@tajbaber9425]

Ahh, yes . the sunset Blvd bands

[@pappo666]

GNR aren't metal band think avarage glam METAL band hmmmm okey that makes total sense so in one way you say they are not but you should think of a subgenre to metal o.o That makes them metal \o/

[@CincinnatusPublish]

"uGLY hARD rOCK?" I never heard that before. Are you small town?

[@jimink3047]

@@pappo666 lmao

[@XouZ88]

Back in the day it was flat out metal, but nowadays they is a part of hard rock

[@HenriRN]

For the 90's and 2000's Id sugest listening to The Dillinger Escape Plan, Meshuggah and System of a Down. They're pretty different, but they are very influencial to more recent metal bands.

[@DaDinkler]

DEP is more of a hardcore band tho

[@DaDinkler]

And that's a whole different beast

[@julesc4228]

Just no. Stop giving non metal listeners bands that are extremely technical. TDEP is already an acquired taste for metalheads, imagine giving a rap fan TDEP to listen to.

[@garrett4299]

DespisedDumbass they are not strictly hardcore. They are mathcore which is metalcore with fast, technical, and complicated instrumentals.

[@garrett4299]

Dillinger is a bad idea, especially when they are just discovering metal. Little too overwhelming. If you wanna give them some good bands that represent the 2000s, I’d go with avenged sevenfold and bullet for my valentine. I’m not a fan, but this was the sound of the era

[@loweffortproductions1985]

When I was coming of age, I had a similar problem to you, but the exact opposite. I was metal and rock all the way. My mom and sister liked most "radio rap" (besides like maybe one eminem album they had) but it didn't appeal to me. As I made more friends in my late teens/early adulthood, I found that a lot of them really LOVED rap music, often putting on beats to try and freestyle over for fun. I ended up looking up a bunch of influential tracks, and getting fascinated by the underground and newer stuff. I became a DOOMhead (rest in peace), but also really enjoy Tyler, AFRO, and a lot of other modern rappers who can blend in the boom-bap style. I'm also really enjoying Kendrick too, I can see why he's so GOATed. I think Hip Hop also opened me up to appreciating Jazz more too (thanks to great samples), which came full circle into listening to a lot more Jazz Fusion and Prog Rock/Metal

[@claytonwomack3771]

Slipknot’s first album is a masterpiece.

[@Daggz]

If he were to do slipknot I'd think their third album is a better place to start because it's a lot more accessible in sound. Self titled and iowa are amazing albums but very hard to listen to if you aren't in to metal already I think. Subliminal verses I think is the best out of all their albums to be used as a gateway into slipknot.

[@norwish6940]

@@Daggz I remember my first time hearing (sic) a few days after discovering Slipknot, I was like "wtf is this", but after I listened more to Slipknot and (sic) I loved the song. And I think that WANYK and The Gray Chapter also are pretty good albums to be used as an introduction to them.

[@tove7836]

Its good, masterpiece? Nah.

[@gabriellawrence109]

@@tove7836 you wouldn't get it

[@arturtomczak636]

@@Daggz Yeah, I agree on that 100%. Overall Slipknot is pretty much a band you should listen to backwards if you want to get into it

[@JamoboBorg]

For me it was the other way round, Rock and Metal are the largest genres i know about and Hip-Hop is something i'm still getting into. For some fairly recent intro stuff i'd recommend: Baroness - Purple 2015 Gojira - Magma 2016 Opeth - Watershed 2008 Mastodon - Crack the Skye 2009 They're all well established bands with albums heavier than these if you want to check out, but these are definitely Metal and probably easier to get into

[@xkathira]

Baroness is amazing!

[@cassandralyris4918]

Excellent suggestions!

[@torstenatterberg5788]

great picks, but gojira's best are Terra Incognita and From Mars to Sirius!

[@JamoboBorg]

@@torstenatterberg5788 From Mars To Sirius is definitely their best, but Magma just felt like a better option for someone new to Metal

[@mellowcorpsep6665]

i would say the best Baroness stuff is their early EPs and most their newer stuff is boring but as a skramz elitist im very biased

[@viniciusleaoa]

Man, this video is so amazing Congratulations for stepping out of your comfort zone 🤘

[@henryshriver4582]

Some personal recommendations: Amon Amarth "Twilight of the Thunder God" probably my all time most listened to album to date. It is on the more aggressive side, but has some incredible guitar riffs with a strong melody. Iced Earth "Burnt Offerings" a great album if you like something closer to classic heavy metal, but with strong thrash metal influences. Behemoth "The Satanist" easily one of the greatest albums of the new millennium, of all time in my opinion Mercyful Fate "Melissa" Very catchy classic heavy metal Mayhem "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas" Norwegian Black Metal is NOT what I would usually recommend to newcomers, but Ill be damned it this album doesn't get at least a mention. Black Sites "Exile" Very new album with classic metal feel to it. Helloween "Keeper of the Seven Keys" Considered by many to be the all time best power metal Devin Townsend "Ziltoid the Omniscient" looks silly , but trust me is more than worth every second

[@oneforty1623]

Reccomending DMDS for newcomers is pretty risky lol but god I hope it's successful

[@ghoffmann821]

Popping your metal cherry on Master and then having to judge all others against it, is like losing your virginity to an energetic and busty 10, then living out the rest of your life in Pittsburg.

[@EchoesOfPastTimes]

Here's a list of what I would consider "classics" from more recent years. I tried not to stick with a specific sub-genre of metal, and some of my albums/group of choice might not be classics for everybody : - Gojira (L'enfant sauvage) : had to mention them first, I'm french and they're one of the few french metal band to have international success. Also they're very good - Mastodon (Crack the Skye) : my personnal favorite band and best album of all time - Tool (10 000 days) - Opeth (Blackwater park) - Emperor (IX Equilibrium) I probably could go on, but most of my favorite bands are in similar genres as those I just cited or in very specific sub-genres of metal that I would enjoy but not everyone might

[@kotanovakota]

You're a prog boy I see why no Queensyrche or Meshuggah?

[@EchoesOfPastTimes]

@@kotanovakota Because I don't know the first and don't like Meshuggah

[@kotanovakota]

@@EchoesOfPastTimes check them out they are like Dream Theater but much faster

[@Kogasa_Tatara]

Nice to see Emperor getting some love.

[@khorak6463]

I just got into Gojira and I love them. A little sad it took too long to find them

[@WetAdek]

Dio would be as heavy metal as you can get. You get depending on song fast, slow but also very very powerful vocals.

[@yasharaghdam866]

I'd recommend Archenemy , Rammstein, System of a down, Thy Art is Murder, and Vader

[@LockonStratous94]

Yashar Aghdam TAIM might be too much for someone getting into metal

[@yasharaghdam866]

@@LockonStratous94 Well, yeah. I agree, even Archenemy may be too too much to handle at this point for him but i strongly recommend the others.

[@stiandahl0649]

Not thy art is murder. Not for a person getting in to metal.

[@antontipura2686]

Only Vader is good band here. There are way more way better bands he can check out, why would he waste his time?

[@caouillon370]

Korn

[@hpistache]

I admire how you jumped into this. I don't expect anyone who didn't grew up with metal to like it now. It's pretty amazing that you picked three masterpieces that are so different to each other, that's crazy, you got taste brother. And yeah the recent bands you've mentioned before are not very good, and most new "metal" bands are disgusting unfortunately. Your assessment of all this is pretty interesting.

[@ashlowe2217]

System of a down, Tool, Converge, Gojira, Code Orange, Rage Against the Machine, Mastodon, Death, Nails, and if you want to get into more experimental stuff: Dillinger Escape Plan, Sunn O))), Meshuggah

[@DubbX767]

how is meshuggah expiramental

[@ashlowe2217]

@@DubbX767 At the time nobody was doing anything close to what Meshuggah was doing

[@pixel-hy4jx]

Tool hahahah

[@HenriRN]

Up up up

[@trippybruh1592]

Car Bomb!

[@StevenPleaseArmy]

Death metal albums: Cannibal corpse - the bleeding Carcass - heartwork Death - spiritual healing 1914 - the blind leading the blind Obituary- slowly we rot Black metal albums: dark throne - under a funeral moon Archgoat - the Luciferian crown Bathory - under the sign of the black mark Emperor - in the nightside eclipse Mayhem - death crush EP I’m not claiming these are the best albums each band has to offer. Or even their “biggest” albums. But check these out

[@bababouille9707]

GoDzz ScOpe mayhem is as metal as metal will ever be

[@StevenPleaseArmy]

Butler Sanders hahaha true

[@TheMarkman11]

You suggest death metal albums and forget Gojira? shame. /s

[@bignicenergyy]

you have a very good taste. i’ve never met anyone else that listens to 1914

[@StevenPleaseArmy]

Marcus I said death metal albums, not progressive death metal lmao. I am seeing them live in the summer.

[@lordender_kitty_official]

this is 3 years old so idk if you'll ever even read this but if you want some banger bands/albums that are i bit less known about, you got to hear some stuff from Manowar. i recommend the album The Triumph of Steel and Kings of Metal and the song Warriors of the World United is a great introduction to the band. i also recommend the Australian band King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard. they're a newer band. they started in 2012 i think but they have 25 albums as of now and i think won an award for hardest working band at some point. they're not a heavy metal band specifically but every album they do is pretty much a different genre. they're very experimental with their stuff and they have done a heavy metal album that i love called Infest The Rats' Nest which is amazing and they also made a thrash metal album called PetroDragonic Apocalypse which is a bit different from the classics but in my opinion, one of the best new heavy/thrash metal albums out there. and if you want to see some other wacky stuff try out their album Omnium Gatherum. it has a bunch of songs that are pretty much all different genres and some are mixed as well. it's bizarre.

[@Jakemetalhead439]

I would recommend Sevendust, Deftones, System of a down, Trivium, Killswitch Engage, Tool, late era Parkway Drive, Chevelle, Late era Of Mice and Men, Anthrax

[@Psyantic1196]

I agree with everything you just said

[@BadBlueBoysBorovje]

This is the worst list of ''metal'' bands I ever saw, no hate. Tool and Anthrax are good but everything else is beyond trash

[@Jakemetalhead439]

@@BadBlueBoysBorovje none taken man, everyone has different opinions, nothing wrong with that🤘

[@er4din903]

@@BadBlueBoysBorovje oh cmon my man, cant leave SOAD alone can you haha

[@er4din903]

Also i see ur BB profile pic, not includimg them on your list?

[@AndromedaEleven]

There are soo many metal sub genres that sound completely different. I think that exploring metal through RateYourMusic is really good, because you can quickly read about those sub genres and then listen to the highest rated albums.

[@IvefoundthetruthonMay]

That's awesome advice

[@npinjest7779]

Heavy metal is basically the root of the metal tree, accessible to many. The evergrowing number of branches and leaves that are sub-genres produce increasingly niche stuff, which means tons of people listen to metal, but few bands are as huge as the classic bands. With all the niches, chances are there's metal for anyone who likes music, it's just a matter of finding the stuff to your tastes. Also means different gateways for people who like rock, jazz, classical, rap, EDM, country, etc. For me it was Metallica and symphonic metal. For a rap fan, nu metal or all the rap-metal collaborations/crossovers would seem an obvious choice, especially if can get past the harsh-vocal barrier...

[@jamesjohnston1935]

For a more complete understanding of the genre as a whole, watch "Metal: A headbangers Journey" and "Metal: Evolution" One is a movie, the other is a series. Both directed by an anthropologist. Also there are so many sub-genres of meal that it can get quite confusing. My biggest piece of advice is keep an open mind, and dont be afraid of other sub-genres. Your tastes are your tastes.

[@AHVENAN]

Was just gonna recommend those same documentaries

[@PCGameNerd917]

Metal Album recommendation: Dream Theater - Images And Worlds Queensrÿche - Operation Mindcrime Death - Human Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness Dark Tranquility - Gallery At The Gates - Slaughter Of Souls In Flames - The Jester Race Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger Mayhem De Mysteriis - Dom Sathanas Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus Primordial - To the Nameless Dead Moonsorrow - Kivenkantaja Eluveitie - Helvetios

[@Kogasa_Tatara]

All great songs!

[@shinrafugitives3880]

Are you trying to kill him? He hasn't even gone full thrash yet

[@makmakmaster]

Norwegian black metal is a bit extreme

[@Eric13345]

Operation Mindcrime is somehow very lauded in the metal community and completely unknown outside of it, it is a masterpiece though. Good list with some folk metal in there also

[@tkdmanbb185]

Don't get me wrong Images and Words is a great album but I think Awake is a better Dream Theater album to start newbs out on tbh.