WTF Happened to Rap Concerts? 🫠

[@hakeemsesay15]

Not only is concert etiquette atrocious, but the artist themselves are just completely lazy with their performance

[@juswolf22]

The audience is paying to be the artist

[@envyLP333]

Most rappers rap to the MP3 file😂

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

Exactly. Nobody wants to say this but rappers are the worst when it comes to live performances and I’ve been a fan of hip-hop since like 1990-something. So many artists, even a lot of my favorites, completely phone it in. They don’t rehearse whatsoever, they rap to the completed track instead of the instrumental which is so amateur. Only a few are pros when it comes to performing. The Lox immediately come to mind

[@gintoki_sakata__]

​@@chiarosuburekeni9325Eminem and Travis still put effort in performance

[@painhaus4110]

​@@chiarosuburekeni9325kills me.

[@committedtodd]

I'd argue most rappers have to tour because there's no other way to make money, not because they're passionate entertainers who want to give fans a memorable experience.

[@akondebeat]

Agreed. If, however, the rapper/singer is songwriter or a producer, then they can also make money by producing/writing songs for others.

[@jbsmooth7184]

A good 99.5 percent

[@LimboTheory]

That and getting to these places expands the fan base more

[@alexrivera633]

That is why the majority tour

[@HolDNutz]

@@akondebeat Realistically..how many artists are talented enough to do all that. C'mon man...thats a mute point as very few artists can do all that

[@prawnee9827]

Why would you want to spend $100 plus, seeing a DJ pretending to mix music and a rapper whose vocal is low on a pre-record? People are savvy to it now. It ain’t live music.

[@adp8177]

Exactly. It’s not hard to figure out.

[@impacc4182]

You shouldn’t box all rappers in that, it’s true lots of them do just rap over pre recordings but there’s also some that are amazing live. The ones I’ve seen are J Cole, Kendrick, Jid, Missy Elliot and a couple more you know they actually rap their verse. Kinda sad I’m praising the bare minimum but it just goes to show sum do it for the art rather than a check

[@tim.noonan]

@@impacc4182It’s probably too much to ask of some folks, but one should probably know if an artist is in it for the money or the art before they drop a chunk of change on a ticket to a show.

[@GVonzo]

@@impacc4182Big K.R.I.T. too

[@kingcam0775]

I love hip hop but have never cared for going to the vast majority of shows. I won't pay money to watch a guy rap and dance. There are exceptions. Kanye, kendrick, and Mos Def are examples of guys that elevate the live performances. This is a me thing btw. I just can't get hyped for the traditional rap performance.

[@valentin3186]

DMX performing in front of like half of earths population is peak hiphop concert

[@newnamesameperson397]

A lot of concerns feel like low effort karaoke. Most artists sound absolutely nothing like they do on their songs and that's immensely disappointing

[@34_Israel]

Raw vocals sound radically different from mixed and mastered songs.

[@envyLP333]

​@@34_Israelthere's live effects to compensate. But rappers don't practice their breath work.

[@ElChumies915]

That's because these new artists actually have no talent it's mostly autotune, then they go live and you hear their true voice.

[@34_Israel]

@@envyLP333 I honestly had no idea that shit existed outside of auto tune.

[@YUSSUFXVI]

@@34_Israelnah u can have all the same effects of the mixed song😭😭

[@TheWutangclan1995]

There’s an episode of Family Guy where Peter and Lois got high on weed performing at a concert. In their mind, they thought they were killing it. But in reality they were screaming and shouting random things. A lot of these new rappers sound exactly that.

[@jiggaman000]

Lol i remember that episode.

[@RedragonReviews]

Lol that was funny lol.

[@mandarins_9194]

😂 that episode was hilarious and yes that is it, but for the females they just throw ass when things get boring 😅

[@romello4913]

😂😂😂😂

[@Jac12]

The Episode of Sunny where The Gang perform at their high school reunion. lol

[@FoolishMaki]

Problem is artists now don’t practice performing, what they do in the studio doesn’t correlate to their appearance.

[@DetectiveTrupo203]

I agree. Making good music in a studio and performing a good show are 2 very different things. To be a good performer you have to have stage presence and be able to command a crowd. It's a physically demanding high energy activity. And honestly a lot of these rappers that are pot heads and lean heads are unathletic and out of shape and therefore their show is low energy and boring.

[@SunAndMirror]

they dont practice period

[@romanorleans504]

​@DetectiveTrupo203 i try to keep this in mind when i write shit i have songs now that i havent uploaded that are demanding especially because i smoke but i do practice my breath control to a certain extent

[@romanorleans504]

​@@DetectiveTrupo203oh and by smoke i mean Newports i dont do any drugs

[@kaelthunderhoof5619]

It's because of autotune.

[@ej.osei16]

One thing that Yachty said and Tyler touched on recently which I think perfectly describes this new era of music especially in the hip-hop/rap scene and culture is the least popular thing about new artists is their actual music. They’re Internet personalities who happen to make music as part of their overall brand.

[@impacc4182]

Yup they’re not wrong at all; I’ve notice the actual “culture” of hip hop has been so commercialized and that these new fans don’t even care or wanna take the time to respect it. All they care about is internet trends and social presence over the actual music. That’s why these clowns will settle for someone not even rapping their verses and having back track playing the entire time. It’s sad what rap has become truly 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@UrbanNinja123]

There it is

[@wavestation999]

Yep, especially bad since 2020

[@thatisntryan]

Every problem in the music industry stems from the fact that labels stopped signing musicians and started signing social media influencers

[@D1Snr]

Musical talent is the last thing they look at. Image and look is the first and most important thing

[@TheEvolver311]

No

[@scumie815]

True.

[@fellapal]

Very well said

[@JohnSmith-fq7hj]

Ok well let's not act like the industry isn't a major part of the problem they killed the music scene with their own greed

[@jaymoney_9933]

Another factor, music is not the main source of entertainment anymore for many teenagers, it’s competing with gaming, streaming, social media etc.

[@moxictasculinity]

To be fair even for some of us older kids ,when we were young, music was not a main source of entertainment. Gaming was always a competitor but it’s just that kids have more options these days.

[@BTCBlizzy]

You named all things they can do from home. Lol they don’t want (or many times need) to leave the house for anything. They can get food, clothes, entertainment etc all with the swipe of a thumb. Convenience is a drug that’s hard to kick.

[@ch66ry88]

@@moxictasculinityyeah but gaming was offline it was by yourself or with friends in the house, but now with the internet everything is at the touch of your finger tips you can be in Australia and vs or become friends with someone from America on games it’s just a whole different beast nowadays

[@agoodgoodproduction864]

I don’t like live shows. Music is the thing that runs in the background during my day. I don’t need a live venue to set the mood on my walk to work.

[@torenjohnson2585]

​@@ch66ry88since like 2000 we been playing counterstrike against Australians.

[@kabr0ne]

Ain't no one paying to hear an MP3 of a song playing while the rapper misses 85% of the lyrics and poses instead

[@CoochiKente]

interesting because people will spend hours on tiktok watching people lip sync

[@gregwoodin5630]

People aren’t paying hundreds of dollars to watch those videos though

[@CoochiKente]

@@gregwoodin5630 yeah you spend time. thats far more valuable. you can always getcha money back.

[@kunpunko]

@@CoochiKenteyeah time is more important in the end but be serious social media has caused everyone to waste their time constantly, people are more worried abt their money lmao

[@senzudude]

@@CoochiKenteu spend money that u spent time and effort to get concert ticket then u also spend time n effort going at the concert. Social media is just time (…and probably brain cells 😅)

[@Craycrayallday]

The Yeezus tour was one hell of a show. I saw Kendrick open, and eventually during his performance I noticed the entire stage looked like it was covered in huge blankets. As Kanye was about to start, they unveiled the stage and I saw the stage which looked like a huge glacier. That show was amazing, I was iffy on the album at first, but after hearing the album live, I understood it more. Blood on the leaves and hold my liquor brought chills down my spine. That show was amazing, more akin to seeing like a play than your typical concert, between the stage, costume design, dancers.

[@jiggaman000]

I saw Kanye at the St Pablo tour. Great concert experience.

[@GDL364]

Saw Kanye back in the day with the Glow in The Dark tour. Lupe and N.E.R.D opened best show I’ve ever been to. Ye doesn’t disappoint live.

[@natesamadhi33]

@@GDL364 Man...the Glow in the Dark era...such great memories

[@impacc4182]

@@natesamadhi33Yall are SOOOOO lucky to have experienced the glow in the dark tour. From what I heard it was just as innovative and beautiful as his 808s album

[@JulioIsKilluminati]

Caught the Yeezus tour in Dallas during an ice storm. The arena wasn’t filled due to the weather but Ye still put on a great show.

[@NoirNameless]

Combination of things. A lot of new artists don’t really have fanbases, they have listeners. So people won’t show up to their shows, but they’ll listen to their little TikTok viral songs. Artists being late/not showing up to shows soured the experience (happened to me with Travis in Chicago last year). And artists overestimate their reach by booking shows they aren’t big enough for. The concert going experience is also weird now. Why are there mosh pits at a Tems show? Lol. Etiquette has gone out the window. It’s crazy, cause you’re safer at a Slipknot show than a Travis show. So adopts the whole punk show aesthetic, but didn’t understand that there’s unwritten rules. “If someone falls, pick them back up” “if someone’s hurt, help them” etc. bands stay scooping the crowd making sure no one gets hurt and that nothing weird is happening in the crowd. Rappers don’t do that much, I notice.

[@Prodbykayyyso]

No way who was moshing @ a tems show 😭😭

[@impacc4182]

I don’t think it’s fair to box all rappers in that category. I went to see Jid and he was constantly on crowd control making sure everyone was good. I agree with everything else tho about these artist confusing their monthly listeners and instagram followers to actual fanbase and booking out shows they can’t sell. Also punk rock has been a good influence on these shows but like you said they help people in rock but in rap they’ll just keep raging

[@NoirNameless]

@@Prodbykayyyso I swear to god, last year at one of her shows, clips went viral off people in the crowd moshing like a mf. Nbs. Wasn’t even a large venue either.

[@NoirNameless]

@@impacc4182 Well, I’m not really boxing them in the same category. That’s why I said rappers don’t do it much, not that they don’t at all.

[@TraciD512]

Most of their followers ARE FAKE

[@ThoughtOuter]

Both the artists and fans are to blame for the heavy decline. Artists barely practice on their craft or know any breath control performing over playback tracks barely rapping the words and forgetting songs. There's no showmanship or any type of entertainment at all especially with male rappers who are clearly just showing up for the check. Then we have fans who have the shortest attention span nowadays and can't view anything without pulling up their phone and recording it. The lack of respect for the genre of hip hop in general from both sides continues on and on when you have people in the genre disrespecting past greats or saying they don't even like rapping or hip hop they just doing it for a check. Don't get me started on how everyone thinks they are a "GOAT" or a "Trendsetter" nowadays everyone apparently started something and wants credit and respect for it. Just some of the many heavy drawbacks of Hip Hop becoming so mainstream now

[@painhaus4110]

Cant even keep up with their own raps. 😤😨

[@impacc4182]

There is nothing wrong with recording a moment you goof😂but I agree with everything else

[@jovanreid6782]

​​@@impacc4182 There is also nothing wrong with living in the moment. What would you have possibly done at a concert in the days before Smartphones? Oh I don't know.... Actually watch it?

[@impacc4182]

@@jovanreid6782 Technological evolves and has drastically changed our way of life for the better. What would you do before you could call a person in seconds? Oh I don’t mail it and take days to get the message lol pipe down. I’m not about to be ashamed for a recording a moment that my grandkids can now watch goofball

[@jovanreid6782]

@@impacc4182 What would I do before I could call a person in seconds? lol You know, I was born in 1981, so I spent a fair share of my life doing just that, back when people didn't spend their every waking moment on social media therefore it wasn't crucial to have to get hold of everyone at anytime for any and every reason. And I remember we did perfectly okay. Technological advances are meant to make life easier, sure, but the new generation has taken things much further than that. Life simply isn't experienced anymore. That's all I'm saying. If you get defensive from hearing that, then perhaps that's because you're precisely the person Jack White or Dave Chappelle has in mind when they ban cell phones at venues they perform.

[@Matt-yj1lz]

Alot of people don't care to see someone lip synch their songs stage

[@opmallmoneyin]

Kendrick big stepper tour in Vegas was a great show. The tickets wasn’t too expensive. Definitely got my money’s worth

[@trebworld]

Missy & Busta just finished their tour yesterday, shit was the greatest rap show I’d ever seen and there was none of this foolishness!

[@Funpopular_Opinion]

Came looking for this concert. Missy n Busta should go into history as the best rap concert performers of all time

[@varga4488]

Ya but it’s not 2000 anymore unc

[@tripled153]

Came here to cosign this. Missy, Busta and Ciara killed it in Toronto. Can't believe this was MIssy's first tour. None of these new acts have stage presence. These 3 legends could teach these folk a thing or too.

[@trebworld]

@@varga4488 clearly.

[@friday4557]

They have real fans and came up in the 90s when there was artist development. If you couldn't rock a show your ass wasn't getting signed.

[@SIKICIBIRKANAL]

I'm not an old-head, i like modern music more, but whenever i come across a 2Pac concert footage on the internet almost everytime i see him singing the whole song without backup vocals while screaming and jumping across the stage without losing his voice, i get sad... Why *most* mdoern artists can't have the same energy?

[@angelicsoulz]

They don't love hip-hop like we did back then, they just love the money and clout.

[@stellviahohenheim]

The performance goes down in quality but the ticket price goes up

[@LynnHermione]

Many are lazy but I think the cynicism and cringe culture of today makes sincere enthusiasm feel "uncool" for some people

[@TheNinjapancake14]

Tupac is more famous today than he was when he was alive. A lot of smaller artists with that real talent just aren’t hyped up as much

[@deelee6080]

On drugs 24/7 forgetting lyrics telling the world lies, about performing live. Example you’re telling the world to use a show mix. Which means only the chorus is playing. The problem is they do the total opposite and the whole studio song is playing in the background. Nooooo you suppose to rap when the verse comes in live. When you’re rapping live you need to use breathing techniques. Last thing Young Thug was performing and he showed up late. Me and my girl waited for hrs. When we left at 2 we heard he came at 4. When they do come is not for long at all. The record labels tripping to you’re promoting all this violence. People might be skeptical to come. Protect your artist, but we see what’s going on. You make more money when they’re dead. It’s just sad as hell. It’s just a quick money grab. These rappers got to be out there mines. How I’m gone pay for this high ticket when you don’t care. Dummy I don’t care either.

[@Brandon-yg7mw]

Biggie looking 30 in the video of him freestyling at 17😂😂

[@TheMistiMae]

😂😂😂

[@FormerMexican69]

That’s how it was back then tho. Everyone in my mom’s high school yearbook looks 30, it’s pretty weird

[@angelicsoulz]

Growing up in the hood in the 80s was hard.

[@Dmaj089]

​@@FormerMexican69Think it's due to the lifestyle and environment he's been through

[@Dmaj089]

​@@angelicsoulzexactly

[@itsannapop]

Small correction on the thumbnail, ice spice is twerking like this 😐 on stage these days

[@tayj1008]

That Metro x Future show was $250 plus the fees PER TICKET

[@Ryan-tb6mr]

Thought it was lame, but tbh, I got dragged there. Maybe Im bias 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Kryxx07]

That's crazy. I saw the greatest freestyler of all time do a 100% improvised show for $25 a ticket.

[@marcop.525]

Why i would spend 250 to see a drug addict when i could go see a proper rap show for 25?

[@CLJasonX]

The problem is that many artists today did not grow up as performers. Artists back in the day became famous by performing for different crowds in their towns before blowing up. Today, they blow up from one viral video and can't move a single crowd

[@skatemo100]

The problem is the vast majority of people at concerts are casuals and not actual fans of the art. Also 90% of rappers suck with live performances.

[@ahoo179]

🤓 🤓 🤓

[@Goofygoober-d8y]

@@ahoo179 Can you give an actual logical explanation of your opinion instead of being braindead and sending a nerd emoji with no context?

[@ahoo179]

@@Goofygoober-d8y ermmm actually! The fact that I am the only person who's a real music enthusiast! Most people these days doesn't even listen to real music!

[@philipbanks2462]

Yes! This is why as a millennial I know the best rap shows are the 90% gen x concerts. Get a room full of 45-50 year olds to attend a rap show that's a room full of deeply passionate fans

[@ahoo179]

@@skatemo100 this shit got to be satire

[@liljay3006]

Befor the Travis Scott Incident I always wanted to go one of his concert I’m good off that now😂😂😂

[@romankotas448]

I went to one after that, it was fun

[@OrangeJungle]

Same I was actually at astroworld when it happened and I used to like to go to rap concerts to mosh and shit but now I don’t really fw the hype stuff anymore rather go see Earl sweatshirt or someone who really raps and has a chill fan base

[@Jordan-u2x]

Nah your loss. Rome was fire last year

[@junyaiwase]

@@Jordan-u2xdefinitely not loss of life that’s for sure lmao

[@vaux20012001]

Yet almost 30yrs of the gathering manages to keep the concert casualties at 0 🤔

[@SUBKOLOR]

Probably a lot to be said about how the come up works these days. You used to get noticed for your live performance and following. Now you're chosen for your virality and online following. There was never a need for the artist to learn how to perform outside of the studio and watching them learn how to figure out what a live audience wants is crushing them. Give us a reason to see live music! Even DJ sets are more popular and engaging than live hip hop on the main stage. Wild.

[@ChrisJoestarr]

That's what u get when majority of the new "rappers" do not even know how to rap, let alone perform live.

[@baileyayyy5085]

people who don't listen to underground artists and claiming to know what "most new rappers" do name a more iconic duo

[@morbid1.]

I'm a metalhead... and honestly never seen anyone throwing stuff at the artists on stage during any metal concerts.

[@kbrown3787]

why do metalheads always end up the comments of hip hop discussions trying to show their superiority? Are you looking for something?

[@IWannaGoMissing]

I've done dozens of metal shows and people act crazier at metal shows than many others. Also metal singers will act up and throw stuff like manson and danzig

[@LynnHermione]

I would NEVER be a fan of someone whom I have a suspicion may not give 100% on stage. I am a ballerina and theatre performer and it has been drilled into my head since childhood that EVERY AUDIENCE deserves your all!

[@MXRX]

nah fr, im taking out time to train specific skills to build a good performance. they making it easier for most rap artist

[@prettyboyswagger]

Going to a DJ Khaled live show is insane ngl like what's he even going to do

[@willydynamite9806]

Well, Definitely not rap.

[@JEFFMAN90]

Probably screaming We The Best

[@user-cp9id1mj8b]

He's going to bring out the lobster

[@nini1986]

😂😂​@@user-cp9id1mj8b

[@AikiraBeats]

Tinashe has one of the best performances concert wise. She’s still one of my favorite performers that I try to see at least once a year. Because you never know what she’ll do.

[@Jamaal.R.]

10/10 thumbnail

[@PhillipPlus]

2:57 I pray that another man never carries me off like that 😂

[@autonomous8108]

He really just accepted it and let him carry him away like a 7 year old kid, too 😂😂

[@killagilla24]

I will never pay these exorbitant prices. Dont let em rob you people.

[@Toastfacekillah87]

I went to see one of Roy Ayers' last gigs before he chilled out in 2023 due to old age and at 82 he had more energy and passion for his craft than a lot of young artists these days. Even though he was limited as to what he could do (he old) he definitely got the crowd moving. A lot of these kids need to learn from the elders regarding how to put on a show.

[@KenneyChika]

Oh yeah, this is a GREAT discussion topic

[@bertog8080]

Literally 90% of rappers just use backing track and that’s it. It’s essentially an expensive karaoke night. Shii I mean I’ve seen some concerts where the rapper will only sing the adlibs

[@paixao26]

Kodak black and nle choppa Just dance 😂

[@gravymuztache8108]

Uhhhhh it’s been this way for over a decade. Sincerely, a 34-year old avid concert goer. Hip hop as a genre harbors the most cynical and money-over-everything artists. It’s no wonder the shows reflect that. Still, there are always notable exceptions like Kendrick, Kanye (sometimes), Jay Z and many others. But the artistry that this genre cultivates tends to be mostly kept to the studio. Oh, and the fans are the WORST. More aggressive than metal shows. Less fired up than punk shows. It’s sad and cheap and the fans are cheapened by it.

[@Marc-n5e]

That's yo people

[@vanhalenman60]

man i saw onyx, RA the rugged man, and harrd luck. that was one hell of a show man, small venue but they killed it.

[@Eternal420ninja]

I’ll never forget seeing ski mask the slump god at grey day 2022, he was second to last on the set, did a 15 min set that was half juice and XXX songs, and he couldn’t rap a full bar at all and pretty much just yell ad libs the whole time… smh

[@alienn8218]

Aight homies. I'm still tryin to check out some good live shows. Yall got like a list of your favorite rappers or musicians I should check out?

[@Swush-1]

Kendrick Lammar

[@SikaVutha]

Lil Yatchy

[@nutpeg6915]

If Kanye ever starts touring you know what to do

[@jsmacks11]

Jay Z was one of my best Rap shows. Also Bun B was good.

[@FE0003]

Playboi Carti has some crazy concerts

[@Hersheydimples]

WE'RE IN A RECESSION

[@jesserobinson749]

Taylor swift concerts cause earthquakes and noise complaints from miles away. Every show. Everywhere. Nas was right when he said Hip Hop is dead.

[@elsongs]

Most of the early '90s was in a recession, and yet, some of the greatest hip-hop ever made came out of that era.

[@juniorbatchy9501]

Above all, it's the death of MCs at a certain level of the mainstream

[@west.undercover]

i swear a cultural shift is happening since the drake vs kendrick beef and im loving every single moment of it. its time to kick out the bad artists that keep diluting the genre/ culture and replace them with talented individuals.

[@deelee6080]

Yes I swear you’re right don’t know what these labels be thinking about anyway. If I was a ceo you gone show me your stage presence. You gone show me your business skills and you gone most importantly show me your drive and talent before I sign you. You’re not gone get sign for just followers. That doesn’t tell the whole story. A label can take a talented person and make them popular. With a hit song. If they promote them right.

[@honourrolle]

Long story short, if you boring we ain’t spending our money.

[@Toastfacekillah87]

Its the phones for me. The damn phones!!! Put them away 😡😡😡

[@ahoo179]

Old nga

[@imhim830]

They want to record the experience

[@Xiiiiky2H]

@@imhim830 and then to never watch it again bcs they alrdy recorded their whole life

[@Kryxx07]

Yup. The sea of phones is the saddest thing. Just live in the moment, not through a screen, for once in your f'in life. And yeah, like @Xiiiiky2H said, most people will never watch that video. I've watched people come across their favorite artist performing in the street. They are 5 feet away from them and don't even look at the artist; they're staring through their phone. It truly makes me sad. You could have had a genuine experince, but instead look like a total muppet head down, staring at a tiny screen, instead of the real thing standing right before you.

[@ahoo179]

This is cringe af

[@gilmeaguitar]

As (primarily) a metal head - from normally priced tickets (for mid to small bands), necessities at venues included (toilets, bar), safety, a sense of unity, normal merch prices, friendly chats with bands after the show etc. most of this feels really like the opposite side of the specter... (although metal has it's share of issues regarding artists but not nearly as shown here) Props to all artists that live for the live show - no matter what genre they play.

[@angelicsoulz]

Hip-hoppers and metalheads always had a mutual respect for each other 👊🏾

[@nondescriptcat5620]

since metal has always been underground, Metalheads really feel like a community. especially with the extreme subgenres, if you put in the time to research bands and get into it, you're _passionate_ about the scene, and you look out for your brothers and sisters. and yea, i could see Opeth for $50, or Morbid Angel *AND* Suffocation for $36.

[@yeezystreetteam]

low effort artists get low effort fans.

[@Hains22]

I cannot stop laughing at that DJ Khalid clip😂

[@Lexx1192]

So embarrassing!!!

[@duduman05]

That Khalid clip was kind of funny though

[@wiley983]

You nailed it bro i like how you highlighted both sides of the industry instead of being biased to the negative side only ✌🏽💯💯

[@imaniblack]

So it’s just like most things in life…the ones going above and beyond and who are committed are winning.

[@BrandNameLess]

i can't even think of a handful of rappers whose performancees are actually worth seeing for free.

[@Kryxx07]

Find better rappers.

[@jacevita2163]

Y’all want good, passionate, fun live shows? Go to your local underground hiphop shows, trust me

[@Kryxx07]

Exactly. I saw the greatest freestyler of all time for $25 because he's not a mainstream sellout clown.

[@MadCaril]

Number 1, modern Rap artists dont even look like rappers. They certainly don't act like one either, as they dance and act like teenagers doing trendy dances and moves. 2- Their music is mostly crap. 3- There is no difference between one rapper and another. Few years ago, each rapper had their own distinctive style which got people interested and made them relatable. 4 - The show itself focuses more on special effects than the music itself and if it's a female rapper, then it becomes a stripper show.

[@domaniquematthewz7413]

If artists had showmanship, people will spend their money & show respect. Seeing Missy this month on her scheduled tour proved that to me. I spent 200 & felt like I underpaid, that’s how you do a show!

[@doogieFive-Four]

0:17 that Kid Cudi clip is unintentionally funny 😂 whoever threw that was petty AF

[@Epsteindidinfactkillhimself]

He’s a bum😂😂😂 get off stage🤣🤣🤣

[@mlbjmaur]

It used to piss me off lol now I just laugh😂

[@joshuaconniff7712]

Bro walked off like an angry toddler

[@TEFFTPATTERN]

This is out of place here, but I like different forms of music. One of the bands I grew up on was Dave Matthews Band. I’ve been to many of their shows, and hopefully many more to come. His tickets have been a cool $40 for lawn seats in my area for years and years. They go on stage on time, and they play for 3+ hours every single show. They also jam out their songs, extending them sometimes to 15+ minutes, and you get to see something unique on the spot, only for those who are in the crowd that night. Then they do an encore and play another 2-3 songs after the show. It’s hard to drop over $100 for a lackluster hour long performance after I got used to the quality of DMB shows. I wish more artists cared that much about their fans.

[@khotso_dirane]

8:12 😭 that DJ KHALED clip

[@jovanreid6782]

That makes my day LOL 😂

[@hiddeninsorrow]

But he don't rap, so... Ppl might come to see tpain more than him

[@greenfox42]

11:56 the fact the fans are getting paid less and can’t afford anything but subscriptions now is a major player as well…too bloated of a market and no cash flow in the hands of attendees

[@Akirasloss]

Trav gives his all every show Quality performances

[@john52601]

Here’s something I can personally say about the Cudi concert in Miami. He replaced Kanye that night bc he dropped out last minute, but Cudi performed brand new songs nobody knew and didn’t play any classics. So on top of people already being mad ab Kanye and that beef, the set was terrible

[@TheRealSandman]

For me the 2 biggest reasons are artists giving lacklustre performances & Ticketmaster/ Livenation. The reason why Metal/ Rock shows are still thriving is they're performing & putting on a show, compared to a lot (not all) hip-hop artists who'll go on stage performing to a backing track, pretty much adlibing & screaming a few words over the backing track, which isn't really performing. Even worse I've been to shows when the artist will bring about 20 of his friends on stage whilst they're all there filming, talking on stage etc. it just feels weak. Also the ticket prices aren't justifiable a lot of the time now. I love Post Malone & wanted to go to one of his shows back in 2022, but by the time I priced up how much it would be for the ticket + fees, travel, it worked out cheaper, or the same price for me to go on a cheap holiday for a few days.

[@saintkevinofficial]

Rock concerts aren't "thriving" as such, unless you're specifically referring to the legacy acts, then I'll agree with you.

[@TheRealSandman]

@@saintkevinofficial I still see a lot of big bands like Sleep Token, Architects, Alter Bridge, Bring Me The Horizon that're doing huge shows. Maybe thriving is the wrong word, but they're still able to pull in a lot of people regularly.

[@Scamp2x]

Hip hop as a whole is going through a massive change. You can’t get away with that lazy shit anymore. The fans are starting to notice the patterns and habits of artists and want something to new. Whoever doesn’t change will be left behind as we go into this new era and new world order

[@terey13]

we all said #AMEN to this truth

[@SYE149]

Gunna a good example of care for ur concerts he played like 55 bangers no back track costumes dope set designs fan engagement and putting forth 100% energy his show was so 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Tswazy2]

Yeah that Madison square garden concert was so good and he sold it out as well

[@O.T.M.Steezo]

Gunna issa 🐀

[@terminaldeity]

I see more and more hip hop heads at hardcore punk shows these days. Aside from hip hop influence being a staple of hardcore since the 90s (especially in NYC), there are bands like Soul Glo that just have straight up rap songs (check out Driponomics), and I've seen a couple rappers opening hardcore shows in the past couple years.

[@mandarins_9194]

Simple: lack of true talent, stage prescence, and actual pride in putting on an amazing show! BUT: DOJA IS KILLING IT single handedly ❤🎉😊

[@willydynamite9806]

Pffft muahahahahahahahahaha doja hahahahahahahahahah lmfao hahahahahahaha

[@willydynamite9806]

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[@vitoleskur]

It's always smart to look up previous live concerts from the artist who's concert you want to go to. It paints a really good picture about what you're about to spend money and time on. If 2 or 3 lives in a row are trash, don't think that yours will be any different.

[@orlandowright2323]

I've only been to two concerts in my life (The Weeknd's "Starboy" and Lecrae's "All Things Work Together" tours) back in 2017. Both were great experiences. Reasons why I don't go to concerts now are because the prices are way too high, the crowds are either very rowdy or lackluster and alot of the newer artist are terrible at performing live. Also of note is the fact that for hip hop concerts and festivals, there tends to be this uneasiness of potential drama or violence. I'd rather just watch a show on a livestream for convienience sake.

[@RedragonReviews]

I was wondering when someone would ever discuss this. Now ima get into this video to see if its what i been talking about years ago

[@L1LZam]

Literally only hip hop concert I want to go to now is Cypress Hill those guys seem like they care about their fans & put on a good show other than that I'm tired of buying tickets for the rapper to just stand there with no energy after showing up late or not even to showing up at all.

[@jacklightyear5869]

The crazy thing about Drake getting booed off the Flog Gnaw stage is that they thought Frank Ocean was gonna be performing with NO evidence. It was literally all fan theories from stans. They booed Drake off stage expecting Frank Ocean to then perform when Drake was the surprise guest that was the final performer of the night. There’s video of everyone standing there and the collective realization of what they did sets in, they ended their night early for being so entitled.

[@CruelSMBA]

Switching from rap concerts to raves and rock shows changed my whole view on live shows lol

[@henning14]

I remember seeing 50 Cent “Get rich or die tryin” and later The Game “The Doctor’s advocate” tours. 50 Cents did a lazy playback show and did every trick to not perform. Throw his shirts into the crowd every song and get a new one😂. His “performance” including wasting time was about 3/4 hour. 1/2 years later The Game was on different level. About 2 hours, no playback, high energy, interaction with the crowd. The Wu-Tang and Nas show was also worth the money. They know how to do live shows.

[@mindyourbusiness1934]

Compromising quality for commercial appeal is finally catching up to Hip Hop. It's about time for a reset.

[@stevenotero2627]

Some don't even know their own lyrics. Most dont even perform live. They have a backing track doing most the work while they chime in once in awhile. You pay for a performance but what you get is a listening party as they just play their songs.

[@beefy45]

It’s all about the fan base. Atmosphere tours non stop and sell out every show. They stick to venues they know they can sell out and keep touring cosets low.

[@kiddvandal91]

Got to see The Roots live a few weeks back in the UK and legitimately one of the best shows I've ever seen. Sometimes you just know from some people's music they can't do a proper show ever.

[@hazeydaze5718]

Ayoo...this is a Kpop/Rap problem...I swear they know what we want, & want to overcharge us. I saw Wiz Khalifa for 18$ at a small venue, performing Kush & OJ, I met K. Dot for 150$ & saw Got7 & Twice for 90$ at Tier 1. Now, I'm really picky about what concert I want to attend...

[@PirateCommando]

Love the thumbnail! 🙌🏽🎾

[@gone8792]

That khaled clip is PAINFUL

[@ianvjones]

Great piece!

[@danielg.w5733]

This is why i like rock concerts. the Bands always bring it

[@iam1remnant]

Interesting video -I was over the beef breakdown videos

[@deadmanthehekatonkheire994]

It would have been less funny if Khaled had just kept continuously performing, instead of having brief pauses where he expected people to sing along only to be met wit complete and utter silence.🤣😂🤣 They did him wrong, though, *EVERYONE* knows that song.

[@O.T.M.Steezo]

Because he is just a glorified hype man he don't even write verses and all the songs he be on are features. Dj Khaled is a culture vulture that never even spun a vinyl record.

[@willydynamite9806]

So he wants people to sing along to a song he doesn't sing in. He did himself wrong.

[@BigGuyZee]

A very well written video, with great points made.

[@nickcooper4265]

There’s not been really any new hip hop artist making waves. Just look at the stuff the industry try’s to push, it just don’t hit. And the shows reflect that. The real fans want quality music, not no tiktoc crap. Artist with good music have a core audience and have no problem selling out shows.

[@Endlesszestg0d]

One problem with rappers is that they think they can sell out arenas. They are maybe 5 rappers who can do that

[@BENZ-GVEVO]

Industry’s want followers instead of talent 🤷🏽‍♂️ ….

[@Omniryu]

I think, the biggest problem is all these new people who are trying to skip steps for the sake of making money. I keep seeing all these canceled arena tours and my first thought is "Why tf were they even doing an arena tour in the first place?" Got people who barely have an album out doing arena tours and they don't even have enough music to make going to a concert worth it. Most of em still need to be opening for people and doing festivals.

[@ANIMALWITHART]

I really like the thumbnail to this

[@hiphopmadness]

Thanks 🙏

[@joshcate2060]

Nobody is going to pay to see an internet rapper put on a concert.

[@Jorda5s]

I went to a 4batz concert in chicago last month I like his style but the show was trash. First time I left early at a concert. He was mostly singing over the whole track which I didnt mind but then he started playing other artists songs while he was being thirsty on stage having girls come up to twerk on him. I guess it was hype for the females but then he started playing we belong together by mariah carey and went off stage so I didnt know if he was done performing or what so I left to find out he had 4 more songs. IDK live performances aint what they used to be. I used to like going to live shows over vacations but maybe its not for me anymore.

[@Tigercam24]

Respectfully, did you honestly expect a much higher quality show from 4Batz or was it a "our expectations were low but holy shit" type of thing?

[@CCXLINKS]

The evolution of the thumbnail is something to see

[@AnthonyWilliams_83]

I think some of these artist need to be more realistic about the venue size. It’s okay to perform at smaller venues. Everybody ain’t arena or stadium artist.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

theaters are the best venues anyway. better acoustics, more intimate vibe, and actually _designed_ to put on shows.

[@BudJr]

If you’re talented enough to give great live performances, your fans are loyal, and love you enough, they WILL come to concerts to support you. The environment, or price won’t matter.

[@davidluna7237]

That’s why I don’t go to smaller shows, I only see goats. From fights breaking out , no sure seating, and big ass fees. I’ve seen Lil Wayne, Kendrick twice, J Cole for rap shows

[@raimesey]

Tickets are much more expensive now due to the lack of album sales due to streaming. This mean that the artist has to give you a performance worthy of the price tag and by the looks of these shows, that doesn’t seem to be happening.

[@Lowkey420]

I said it once and I’ll say it again, but concerts are supposed to be an immersive experience. I’m not paying to go watch somebody do lazy karaoke, I can do that at home

[@187marz]

I’ve noticed the older acts put on the best shows and it makes sense since they’ve been doing it so long while the newer acts just stand there and dance and just shout adlibs.

[@darren223]

Ain't that Zendaya on the thumbnail from Challengers?