Historian Alfred McCoy Predicts the U.S. Empire is Collapsing as China’s Power Grows

President Joe Biden’s virtual summit Monday with Chinese President Xi Jinping follows the two countries’ announcement just days earlier they will work together to confront the climate emergency after Xi did not attend the U.N. climate summit in Glasgow. Tension has been mounting between the two superpowers, especially over Taiwan and Hong Kong, with some speculating that a new Cold War is developing. “The United States, in the immediate future, is faced with the possibility of fighting a war over Taiwan … that it would probably lose,” says Alfred McCoy, professor of history at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in an extended interview about U.S.-China relations. “China is also working to break the U.S. geopolitical hold over the Eurasian landmass.” McCoy is a prolific author and his newest book is out today: “To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change.”
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[@paulwheeler6609]

America is dying from short-term thinking, corporate capitalism, wealth inequality, and military/industrial spending. And we're still doing it. Our lack of vision is breathtaking.

[@jamesbra4410]

The real problem is the government has its hands tied. The overwhelming effort to prop up the private sector is gutting the country. The military is not about actual defense like other countries, rather it is a cash cow for private defense contractors. Anytime a contract is offered for some civil project or military project it is inflated in price because they know the government has no alternative and will give them a blank check of taxpayer money. The US populace can't compete with the rest of the world as they're being milked rather than cultivated in all social and education sectors. The complete lack of social support and abhorrence to socialism is what will do the country in. China has superior state planning and accounting of resources while the US federal government can barely squeak out an infrastructure bill which will just line the pockets of the private contractors anyway.

[@user-gz4ve8mw9l]

@@jamesbra4410 Even IF the USA could win a war, it doesn't wage wars for anything aside profit, and control. It's not trying to even win wars, for perpetual conflict is highly profitable. False flag operations, propaganda, as well as other forms of brainwashing, boogeymen, phantoms, and hobgoblins to blame for everything.

[@silveriver9]

The US has 800+ military bases around the world. China has only 1. It is the US we should be worried about. The US has been at war 93% of the time - 227 out of 245 years - since its founding in 1776. i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth. History teaches us lessons about how it’s easier to blame others than blame ourselves. The greatest danger we face today is not coming from China. It is our drift toward proto-fascism!

[@marktuyet]

You'd be much happier in China .

[@donw3861]

America's vision:. LGBTQ, DIVERSITY, ANTIFA, BLM, LOOTERS, RIOTERS, $15 minimum wage, OPEN BORDERS, TRILLION DOLLAR MILITARY...all the necessary ingredients for economic success.🤬

[@slorter10]

America should be taking a look at it own human rights record it is appalling!

[@earlviney5212]

You're right. Workers in America have the worst labor laws in the industrial world

[@irwan3064]

China and Russia should hit back and initiate some publicity actions to highlight the abuse of human rights in the US

[@youngz13o]

Being in war for like 200 years didn't help? Weirddddd

[@irwan3064]

@@youngz13o America losing the trade war

[@sarahjones3338]

🙄🙄🙄

[@patricelauverjon3177]

The collapse has a lot to do with arrogance and self destruction!

[@benombati6501]

For me I think it is self destruction. You are right Mr. Nobody is going to destroy USA, USA is destroying itself.

[@Absurd-Woman]

Indeed. We will implode as China rises. For too long we have had ultra-corrupt, inept, and foolish warmongers leading our nation; fools on BOTH sides of the political aisle. We've been led by iniquitous clowns with a pseudo-moralistic attitude -- the type of fools who thump their chests like gorillas in the wild when ready to initiate violence. We've invaded over a dozen nations, ruined them, and overthrown democratically elected leaders (i.e Chile's Allende --1972, 1953 Iran Coup led by CIA, and others ). Nevertheless, we have had garbage leaders and war criminals (like Obama, Trump, Biden, etc) who have the gall to criticize other nations? Imagine what we could have done domestically to tackle the homelessness problem, failing schools, and other issues with over 10 Trillion dollars we WASTED AWAY in wars/invasions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Syria, etc. in the last 50 years?

[@godwinowu]

I've learnt more about geopolitics in the 22 minutes I spent watching this video than I have over the last ten years of reading and watching all the mainstream media outlets in the UK. A big thanks!

[@brianjacob8728]

Read McCoy's early books on the opium trade. The US and its military have been crooked for a very long time.

[@Chad-qw8ok]

Scary times for my country of Australia if these predictions are correct. We're making some severe miscalculations by being America's little dog.

[@armandomontillero8379]

I hope that Australia will regain their old trading status. Indeed, this is scary times for everyone. Cold war, trade war and hot war. No one is immune .

[@linmal2242]

Austrakia is not Americas little dog, but it does ascribe to free markets and democratic government, unlike China which is a centrally planned communist totalitarian police state.

[@rhonda6791]

And this is what I find scary. Never trust someone who is in with the American Evangelicals. Morrison is the worst.

[@rhonda6791]

@@linmal2242 And America is a democracy? Never was and never will be.

[@Chad-qw8ok]

@@rhonda6791 true that. America is old money vs new money. Businesses control everything, they use identity politics to divide Americans. It is not a democracy.

[@roblong9728]

The guy forgetting most of the trillions spent on the afghan war went to American military contractors and American corporations, about 90% I believe. Afghanistan wasn't about winning, it was about corporate profit, especially American corporations profit.

[@reason5591]

@Rob Long BINGO👍 I cannot for the life of me understand why so many dont even see this!!! Frustrating at best.

[@reason5591]

@Rob Long War is profit for the elites

[@elcarajo66]

Essentially the Vietnam War all over again.

[@briaf3370]

That’s been the USA governments position since the end of ww2

[@deecapetown]

@@UncleTe Excellent observation! 1st World 'Western Civilisation' has been built on and by parasitic destroyer-plunderers with an ethos of "Biggest Gun Wins & Winner Takes All" .... bullying, bribing, blackmailing, buying and bombing to impose their 'culture', 'values', cruel laws and judiciary model inherently for protection of the mighty; and installing s-elected / imposition of a 2 [short term] party political illusion of 'democracy' ...where any benign e.g. central meritocracy with long term sovereign service is demonised with pejorative labels ... and those who resist are assassinated, war or lawfare killed one way or another ... I know Russia has learnt the price of USSR military and other Imperialism and have NO imperial intent ... and China since time immemorial have a "Win Win" trade and "non-aggression or imposition" foreign relationship ethos / practice .... & when I look at reality history and really LISTEN to the vilified Ayatollah and/or leader of Hezbollah - find them GIANTS of MORAL & HIGHLY INTELLIGENT leadership ...as do I respect the MORAL likes of Bolivia Evo Morales punching way above their national weight in UN ..and Venezuela standing up against the Worlds Serial Paedophile Gang Rapists .... And on the point of Venezuela - look how far Western 'Civilisation' / 'International community have fallen with Bank of England heisting Venezuelan gold, USAvages sanctions on Syria and heisting Afghan & Iranian foreign funds .... not forgetting the prolific war criminal Obomber administration spiteful heisting Russian embassy property. DISGUSTING. I welcome a multi-polar world, and have hopes and prayers for the more ancient civilisations to counteract the AngloZionist run JUVENILE DELINQUENTS.

[@mlight6845]

This interview was spot on. The moment I heard China's belt and road initiative, I flashed on the industrial and economic expansion that took place as railroads and freeways spanned the conterminous US. China is connecting unprecedented markets.

[@snapdragon9300]

Have you read how destabilizing it is? How it loads up poor countries in the pacific rim with debt they can't repay? How they employ their own workforce on these projects, often entirely? The poor quality of these bridges, rail and road networks? My brother works for transrail Austraila, as a safety inspector. The issues they had with similar Chinese projects cost them a fortune. Ditto for here in New Zealand with Nz rail trains and the main Bridge in my hometown built by Chinese steel and parts.

[@GrimSagas999]

​@@snapdragon9300 We chinese know US already gone out of power😆😆😆

[@snapdragon9300]

@@GrimSagas999 We Europeans know Chinese are paper tiger compared to the west.😆 Gò help Russia, see how you like the sanctions like they are getting. Meanwhile were all making separate trade negotiations from you.

[@greedyinvader9462]

@@snapdragon9300 Europe the collapse continent, face the reality

[@mlight6845]

@@snapdragon9300 Yes, poor areas do not recognize the power they surrender to this type of expansion. The other concern has been the quality of the road or rail-track bed. Your comment supports my concern.

[@LetsGoGetThem]

"Dividing the world into blocs will bring upon disaster" To the United States global hegemony, he means.

[@lochnessamonster1912]

Maybe we shouldn’t have spent 100 years over-throwing govts and destroying countries on this side of the globe, ie: South America

[@SkyRiver1]

When you say we, you really don't mean it, unless you are one of the power-elite who actually determines that covert and overt action of government resources. I know I am not part of your we, and I doubt very much if you are either.

[@beesplaining1882]

Maybe we shouldn't have funded the worlds largest (gross understatement!) military with over 900 foreign bases and invested those trillions into our domestic infrastructure and civil society!

[@GladysAlicea]

America's wasted much time already, and now we're wasting it on hate, power envy, etc. I'm a super curious person, and learn new things every day (mostly closer to Ph.D material). First, I read a little about Sir Halford Mackinder. Now on website that briefly outlines the three geopolitical theories. It's fright night, (and I just got started), but will keep going, as I find this simultaneously fascinating and frightening. At my age, I probably won't be around to see how it ends (thank God).

[@grantgerson2492]

100% Truth America went around over throwing governments. If this was a Great policy Iran would be there best friend today. The use to be super power that aided demise in country all around the world 🌎. America will not be remembered as a builder of nations. Just an old bully getting handled by China. America please hold onto white supremacists mentality. Please hold that mind set of racists views and policies.

[@grantgerson2492]

If a country cannot admit their wrongs then let them Fall.

[@alfredoleal2101]

The USA got 200 years to build a railroad to Mexico o argentina.they don't even got one from LA to San Francisco so don't blame China.

[@billcollins6894]

There has been a railroad from LA to SF since the 1800's.

[@alfredoleal2101]

@@billcollins6894 if you can call that a railroad compare with china's 600 kmh bullet trains an 60% of railroad on the planet

[@billcollins6894]

@@alfredoleal2101 I lived in the SF Bay Area about a mile from the proposed HSR. CA voters are the ones that stopped it. Nobody wanted it running through their neighborhoods. And the route and price tag were ridiculous.

[@svshimmershimmer4872]

@@billcollins6894thats quite embarrassing that you guys are stuck in the stone age. And by the way wasn't it also the Chinese that built that for you back in 1800's as well! Smh.

[@billcollins6894]

@@svshimmershimmer4872 The Chinese laborers did it voluntarily for less money. They did not design it. They swung picks and hammers. Stuck in the stone age? The 100 square miles where the HSR died is where all of the tech in the world was and is developed that is used to create this and every web site. The other reality is that HSR did not buy much for anyone. I went from SF to LA many times. It is a 5 hour drive or 45 minute flight. Spending $60B to create something for which there were already solutions did not make sense.

[@trudellis]

Never seen this channel before, its so weird how the host and guests are just explaining stuff. Not shouting at each other like main stream news

[@user-ft9dg7hf2p]

It might be an old news but shocked me that there are 10 Chinese universities ranked in the top 20 world best engineering but only 3 in USA by US News. Also the #1 is not MIT anymore but a Chinese University. It is far more than I was anticipating for the time that China will pass US in this major field. It is a critical moment for both US politicians and individual people to really think carefully and make the mind that whether we want to continuously make China as our enemy that we have no chance to win. Don't wait to realize that until China passes USA in every fields because it may be too late for these two countries becoming ever friendly. I really wish that the two powerful countries could be peace and friendly ASAP.

[@davidwong5197]

US did this to themselves. US has the China initiative. They prosecuted 400 Chinese scientist and convicted none. As it is getting very racial. Biden finally ended it but he just not to give them grant. So thousands of scientists were returning to China. It really helps China's thousand talent program

[@bansrajmattai4548]

It's significant that the US spent 8 trillion dollars, as Professor Mc Coy pointed out, in Afghanistan only to hand the country over to China which spent nothing on destructive pursuits. While this was happening, the poverty rate has risen in this country, with 40 million and counting still living below the poverty line, constantly worrying about basic needs such as healthcare and education. All to appease the military-industrial complex! It couldn't last!!!

[@walden6272]

With the recent high inflation, the people are wondering if they can make their next rent or how will they feed their families since everything is getting expensive.

[@elliekwong3180]

@bansraj mattai: America is a dying empire! The US gov't works for the elites, NOT the people. The US gov't uses wars/conflict to launder tax payers' money to the elites. Why? US gov't is controlled by military industrial complex, money changers, CIA and Israel. Does it become clear to you now?

[@jamesbra4410]

This has been going on for a long time, around 40 years since Reagan. The poverty rate will continue to skyrocket and prices will increase while wages stay the same. Most people even if they got sick from covid they couldn't just lay down and feel sick because they'll be fired because there is no job security or if they went to the doctor then they'll be milked for a useless check up since most are without health insurance. The education system too milks you for all you're worth and most companies don't even want you knowing how terrible most university systems are with educating students. That was the beauty of globalization, you could milk everyone here at home and leave them for dead and just boat in a fresh line of immigrants this time with their own state subsidized degrees lol. No, the consensus of most yellow-bellied americans is they'd rather see this nation collapse than stick their neck out for the next man to make it a little better.

[@josecamacho3393]

So your solution is to throw a million people working in the defense industry to unemployment and poverty too? 🤢🤮

[@npc2480]

@@josecamacho3393 the other option would be a nuclear war with China in which case we’ll all be dead.

[@douglaskay9959]

I lived in Hong Kong for a while and I lived in Florida and the Chinese are way ahead in intelligence.

[@helldeirch]

how? the success china achieved is through making stuff americans invented

[@helldeirch]

@@erich4812 ford made cars not wheels, china so far has not made anything new, sure they make things cheaper I give them that

[@helldeirch]

@@erich4812 an electric car is innovation over gas powered cars, another electric car is not innovation over electric cars

[@helldeirch]

@@erich4812 you have no point, I'm talking about real innovations, you're talking about tiny improvements

[@silveriver9]

The US has 800+ military bases around the world. China has only 3. It is the US we should be worried about. The US has been at war 93% of the time - 227 out of 245 years - since its founding in 1776. i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth. History teaches us lessons about how it’s easier to blame others than blame ourselves. The greatest danger we face today is not coming from China. It is our drift toward proto-fascism.

[@drakekoefoed1642]

usa stopped being a democracy a long time ago. as the princeton study showed, what the people in the lower 90% of income want has nothing at all to do with the choices gov makes. wages have been stagnent for 40 years. people can no longer afford houses, and the truck i bought in 73 for 4k now costs more than 40 while wages are about twice.

[@bangaluru1]

The professor is cool and correct.

[@the1onlynoob]

In plain terms, the west discounted the African continent, China did not.

[@JJ-bo3wm]

An African said the best: until the Chinese came to Africa, it's the first time we felt being treated like a human being!

[@yummytummy88]

China treat people in Africa as human being and not just as a source of resource or property. China was in Africa over 600 years ago, before Christopher Columbus set foot in the America. They made few trade and did not steal anything nor even consider slavery of the native.

[@nealrutgerskid]

@@JJ-bo3wm lol... that a false narrative. you know it. The Chinese have no interest in Africa other than exploitation. You should look into their Belt and Road initiatives that treat African countries with such disdain.

[@nealrutgerskid]

nope.. see my statement above

[@cerveza2297]

@@nealrutgerskid 👍👍👍

[@kaliskunkog2255]

An American diplomat coined a phrase...we lie we cheat we steal..this pretty much sums up America in a nutshell.

[@julianparks8485]

And China, and Russia, and North Korea, and them all! The United States so-called empire needs to go and be replaced with a better government. Enought of the lying, killing, and stealing.

[@pikachus5m166]

Phatpeo.

[@kokkintang9983]

The then CIA chief who later became the secretary of state , under the Trump administration, proudly said that CIA is in the business of cheating, stealing,lying, subverting.

[@thetreekeeper143]

America also murders. Like the assassination of the Iranian general soleimani. And the ex director of CIA was prepared to murder Julian Assange too. So many devious crimes, especially the fake narratives of human rights abuse and the arming of regime change insurrectionists.

[@brotherwolf-shield1951]

@@julianparks8485 Yeah, a big start would be for the UN to get rid of the exclusive one vote VETO power of the US, Russia and China. Defeats the whole purpose.

[@johnbuckle5937]

The situation is dire. We need to stop the childish games in both houses and sit up secure our country.

[@Richard-bd4lm]

How I wished the professor never stopped talking. Thank you very much for inviting him

[@earendilpenrose5559]

People like McCoy clearly show why the US needs a historian geopolitical engineering cabinet member.

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

McCoy's bullshit shows the total failure the US education system is.

[@geoeconomics5629]

here it is for you: IT IS IMPERATIVE that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating EurasiA and thus of also challenging America - Zbignew Brzezinski Spykman Wolfowitz etc...

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

@@geoeconomics5629 What makes you think there are people who don't know the stupid ideas Brzezinski and Wolfowitz promoted? And why do you think those excuse McCoy's paranoid false claims?

[@geoeconomics5629]

@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 Very very few know what is up "stupid ideas" you have no clue what is up Alfred Mcoy knows what is up

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

@@geoeconomics5629 Go home, you're drunk!

[@randyjax09]

This is the sort of news coverage Americans should be hearing. Thank you for covering it.

[@andyhughes1776]

But they are not listening.

[@weverleywagstaff8319]

Xactly....not cpnstant virture signaling

[@franklingregory]

I had to do a deep search to find this information

[@miriamanderson6146]

Also, the anchor is not plasticized to appear young. Look at Leslie Stahl, I don’t even know what she looks like now.

[@miriamanderson6146]

Gosh, whatever! I’m leaving because it’s all yuk, yuk, yuk…

[@Ballardian]

I think he's being inaccurate when he says "America sees Africa as a charity case" and that it's only China that has begun to use it's natural resources. In fact the US has long been exploiting poor countries in Africa through extreme debt (through the IMF and World Bank, which they effectively own).

[@anobody3803]

china is building infrastructure for trade with those countries to invest in their development. Notice the difference? one is imperial power, the other doing business.

[@CHRIST-Anchord]

Countries should work for common humanity rather than against each other! My humble advice to Tiwan: Live peacefully with your neighbor, China rather than stretching beyond your limits🥀

[@Knapweed]

An Empire is near its end when it starts to eat itself. The U.S. began that process in 2008, stagnating the wealth of the bottom 90% whilst exponentially increasing the wealth of the top 1%.

[@subjectively_objective]

underrated comment

[@realpainediaz7473]

💯️🥇️🙌🏿️

[@joshuaandersen8663]

You must remember that when you hear about the upper 1% many people don't take into account that you are only counting 335 million people and there's roughly 8 billion people in the world so every American is in the upper 1%

[@realpainediaz7473]

@@joshuaandersen8663 Dude Americans have more because it costs more to be here. Your argument sounds like a "starving kids in Africa" deflection towards Americans.

[@joshuaandersen8663]

@@realpainediaz7473 have you ever been in a position where you had nothing in the United States of America??

[@PiggyPickem]

Biden has a lot of audacity to throw human rights accusations at anyone!

[@frankwilliams3036]

.......and American president, particularly Trump who was calling for the violence here and over seas. SMH.

[@leoredfield2645]

@@frankwilliams3036 lol wow.. 🤣🤣🤣

[@pikachus5m166]

And most of it easily debunked.

[@chriseshelby7705]

Huh?

[@leoredfield2645]

@Queen Dymphna summer of love, j. Blake. Any of this sound familiar?

[@MsUtuber2]

At least the bombing of a ship that started our presence in Vietnam was a lie. You'd think that we could all just get along.

[@e.priest8937]

The civilization became drunk with success. "There's always more" and they underestimated the Chinese because of a superior and condescending attitude.

[@raygan777able]

To the US, it is a competition. In a competition, 1 win and the other one loses. But to China, it should be a cooperation that should lead to a win win situation for both parties. With no losers. Huge difference in perspective.

[@donhuang9855]

The biggest difference is America want to win NOW; while China want to win LATER.

[@silveriver9]

US is playing chess, China is playing Go. That is the fundamental difference.

[@ExpatZ266]

@@donhuang9855 Nope.

[@donhuang9855]

@@ExpatZ266 Check-mate !!!

[@kevincarrigan6348]

U R naive if you think Zhong Guo is a good faith actor in this transaction. Not to say the US has an immaculate record in the relationship. What's your nationality ??? Have you ever lived in China for 8 years as an adult Socialist, like i did ???

[@TheIamtheoneandonly1]

''Look back over the past with it's changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future, too.'' - Marcus Aurelius

[@yiewleechoo6701]

Why is it that the western mind Is fixated on dominating other countries? Chinese phiosophy Is peaceful coexistence and in it's long history, China has not ravaged Asian, African, Middle East and Latín American countries the way the US has done in its shorts history. China wins over minds while the US flexes it muscles in vain. Guess who the rest of the world views as the world's greatest villian?

[@TheIamtheoneandonly1]

@@yiewleechoo6701 Ah yes! East and West, Collectivist and Individualist. It will be very interesting to see how these cultural differences will play out over the next few decades. Just saying and not hating ok.

[@alexmatibag8349]

in short, its about to collapsed... happy to see this coming.

[@TheUmaragu]

I live in the US, am a citizen of US as well and yet I believe US needs to make serious adjustments to foreign policy since economic and military powers are emerging in Asia.

[@haroldbn6816]

So you want the USA to be more prone to bombing foreign nations? Way to go USA, the world will love you.

[@andrewday3206]

When the USA decided to spend $9,000,000,000,000 on Middle East war in 20 years, the monetary crumbling was a certainty

[@silveriver9]

The US has 800+ military bases around the world. China has only 3. It is the US we should be worried about. The US has been at war 93% of the time - 227 out of 245 years - since its founding in 1776. i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth. History teaches us lessons about how it’s easier to blame others than blame ourselves. The greatest danger we face today is not coming from China. It is our drift toward proto-fascism.

[@andrewday3206]

@@silveriver9 The developed world got together after WWII and called on the USA to be the most powerful navy, military. This was literally the written charter when WWII ended. They also setup the petrodollar as the currency for all crude oil to be bought and sold with. It was not the USA acting alone as the bully, the USA was asked to be the world police.

[@silveriver9]

@Andrew Day The world was in ruins after ww2 while the US was left unscathed. So Europe handed the mantle over to the US. The US wrote most of the international laws that would favour the US. As these laws are becoming outdated with the US in decline; rising nations are looking to make changes to international laws to better fit the circumstances of the 21st century. US has shown it no longer has the capability to be the world police. Also, world policing does not mean invasion, destruction and discard. It should mean assistance, reconstruction, integration and safety.

[@andrewday3206]

@@silveriver9 The Marshall Plan was a massive investment from the USA into other nations. The USA also incurred huge amounts of debt and had a human cost to WWII. If you think China and Russia how the best intent for other nations you are mistaken. What China did is also unsustainable. China has an artificial currency and has bankrolled factories while ignoring environmental standards or worker well being. China relies on fossil fuels and raw materials from other nations. Without oil that was to a large degree developed by western powers China would not be where it is. Heck China relied on the USA and western world to develop the customer base is under paid workers built for the next generation. Now that wages are increasing in China and nations are not wanting to fund the expansionist State, supply chains are starting to leave and stagnation is setting in. Yes the USA and NATO have issues, but they are far from done or irrelevant.

[@silveriver9]

@Andrew Day Nobody is saying the US is done. The fact is that the US economy, foreign policy and power projection is in decline. By 2028 China is set to surpass the US but that doesnt mean the US is finished, it will now just have to make changes to itself and accomadate a new no.1 nation in this case China and for an Asian Century. The world is changing fast, if the US doesnt change with it, it can find itself in a worse off position economically. India is projected to surpass the US around 2040s ish. That too doesn't mean the US is finished. The world will just become a more multi-polar world. Win win, that's if we take a collaborate approach. All the cold war zero sum rhetoric is nonsense, it is just politicians trying to rally as much support and get the votes. They know that hate sells and they choose scapegoats to achieve their objective i.e. votes.

[@masnur7007]

The Chinese students in US are not the best from China. The BEST Chinese students study in Chinese Universities! Those who could not get into Chinese Universities but come from Rich Families go abroad to study. So if Americans are amazed at the Chinese students in US Colleges and Universities imagine if they were to meet the Best Chinese Students in Chinese universities! Period!

[@Rhythmicons]

This is a version of "Asians are good at math."

[@SirSpinach]

@@Rhythmicons pattern-matching to whatever the overeducated activists deemed problematic this week isn't helpful dude

[@SirSpinach]

The best Chinese students certainly tried to go abroad to the US two decades ago -- mainly to seek opportunity and escape poverty. Makes sense that more of the brightest are sticking to a country that is now richer, and which is strongly encouraging its citizens to improve life at home.

[@Rhythmicons]

@@SirSpinach Don't work too hard trying to quip yourself into believing you are punching downwards.

[@donhuang9855]

Not entirely correct; a good numbers of China's brightest still prefer to upgrade themselves in well known western universities for their Masters and PhDs in the field of science, engineering and computers, etc. Chinese students still need to learn new knowledge / innovations from the West as much as the West need to do businesses in China. In most Asian countries, passing grades for Science, Maths, local langauge, foreign language (English), and the major subjects is compulsory for entry into tertiary education.

[@elsieschmaltz6754]

Thank you

[@craigkeller]

Thank you for this enlightening interview.

[@ramiznorthland7179]

It’s very simple China has a smart government we don’t.

[@silveriver9]

The US has 800+ military bases around the world. China has only 1. It is the US we should be worried about. The US has been at war 93% of the time - 227 out of 245 years - since its founding in 1776. i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth. History teaches us lessons about how it’s easier to blame others than blame ourselves. The greatest danger we face today is not coming from China. It is our drift toward proto-fascism.

[@silveriver9]

Agree.

[@Itthew]

The US still has very smart people running it. It's the short vision and stay hostage to money- both foreign and domestic - interest in our government that I would argue is the cause of all these. From the Tanzan railway example, China has clearly been laying chess pieces since he 1970s.

[@silveriver9]

@@Itthew China are masters at the long game. China is afterall, led by engineers (long term planning and pragmatic). US is led by lawyers and actors, all about charming/quick sale mentality/deflection/manipulation and short term vision (4 years only). US politics is basically a reality show on roids.

[@charlesritter6640]

China has a government that does the best thing for China and America has a government that does the best thing for the biggest donors (bribers). The U.S. has puppets for politicians.

[@hau8072]

Forever wars had always been the hallmarks of empire's decline throughout the ages, why is America doing exactly the same thing now? Is it fate, destiny, arrogance or downright learning disability?

[@JK360noscope]

We're free to bomb as we please, thank you

[@hau8072]

@@JK360noscope America had to flee vietnam like a freaked out dog with tail between its legs, dashed out of Afghanistan in middle of night like freaked out headless chicken leaving thousands comrades behind to die.....economically it's a dead meat living on borrowed time and monies, moron!!!

[@bluesteel5688]

@@JK360noscope ...sarcasm and irony (I hope)

[@douglasrobertson1330]

It's all of the above plus tons of greed and selfishness.

[@DukeLM]

Greed!

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

This was a great discussion. Learned a lot.

[@silviopina_111]

19:54 China is the key investor in Africa, whereas the US sees it as a "charity case".

[@MrGanbat84]

Love whole China from SKorea. We need to be strong together 👏👏🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷. I always studying about China history and culture that shows all aspect it is great nation and peaceful. I am so proud of China. I live in Busan city Republic of Korea but really like Sino culture. 👍🧧

[@supahsmashbro]

Believe me, in two decades or so China and S. Korea will have very good relations :D We will always be siblings

[@Time4Peace]

You are a minority of Koreans who believe that. China and South Korea have much to gain from cooperation. Let's help spread the message. Only benefits will come from cooperation and not from conflicts.

[@rliu001]

Sadly you are in the minority in South Korea. Any country that let US media (CNN, MSNBC, Fox News etc.) into its market, the people will be brainwashed by Western anti-China propaganda. Both S. Korea and Japan are guilty of this. South Korea will always be tied to China with both countries forever tied both culturally and economically. It always been the case throughout history. I will be looking forward to the day when North and South Korea can unite. China and Korea will always be brothers on many levels.

[@supahsmashbro]

@@rliu001 So right. Hell, even a number of Chinese people unironically listen to Radio Free Asia and whatnot. As long as Western media gets to you, you WILL have brainwashed peoples. The CIA has profoundly infiltrated Japan, S. Korea as well, and to a lesser extent China. Asia will never be truly confident, proud, and sovereign until they kick out these colonizers who fantasize day and night about Asia going to war and them subjugating the peoples for their own perversions.

[@tarhunta2111]

It's good to be proud of your culture and country but be careful not to become arrogant like the Americans.

[@sandraberry5132]

I can imagine China sitting back waiting for the US to self destruct internally with our political parties only interest seemingly to be not how to serve the people but more about how to minimize any productivity of the other. My country, God help us.....

[@_Wai_Wai_]

China will not sit back and relax, the Western Propaganda machine is insidious and pervasive. Western gov'ts are poisonous snakes never rests. They must be beaten down with big stick.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

western gov'ts and Medias, hide behind the mantle of American Hegemony, to spread lies about China. The CIA / NED has been operating in Xinjiang and Hong kong for decades, with the aim of causing unrest and division in China. There were over a dozen Terrorist attacks in Xinjiang since 2006, by the ETIM, which is recognized by the UN as a terrorist organization, but was taken off the Terrorism list by the US gov't. Edward Snowden was a CIA operative that was stationed in Hong Kong for years before he chose self Exile. The American gov't has been waging a "War on Terror" for over 20 years, on Muslim soil, killing Muslim civilians, and yet, pretend to care about the well being of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang. The propaganda machine in Europe and the USA are insidious and Pervasive. The US invasion of Iraq, and destabilization of the country in 2003 led directly to the Rise of ISIS in the region, not to mention Syrian War, Lebanon unrest, and millions of refugees streaming across Europe. Being an American Ally means cleaning up the mess that US gov't creates.

[@joandolliedoyle775]

Those politicians behave that way because too many voters continue to reward bad behaviour and not hold politicians accountable. Republicans are openly spreading or tolerating lies and still look likely to succeed in the midterm. I hope that doesn’t happen. However the reputation of the US has plummeted abroad.

[@Jamie-nt3eh]

US is self destructing by printing so much money. The hole is getting bigger and deeper.

[@donhuang9855]

It would be stupid of China to interfere with the USA's self distructive behavors; wonder why Americans love to say: GOD Save America (from their politicians).

[@sizzla123]

Excellent interview, Amy 1 Corinthians 10:12 Therefore the one thinking to stand, let him take heed, lest he fall.

[@Javaidahwani786]

US and its allies played the same role with Ukraine as the did with Pakistan in 1971. Pakistan has learnt a great lesson

[@noellaw3477]

The biggest reason China is building a large navy is because the US and its 'allies' (in quotes because in the case of real war, I doubt too many countries would really jump in...) sailing their war ships and aircraft carriers off the coast of China. I wouldn't blame the US for building 100 more war ships if the Chinese sails their naval ships off the coast of California and the East Coast.

[@firefly4326]

US trying to create imaginery tension so China can focus more on their defenses. Their attack on China is unwarranted. The US just do not want China to be fast moving in the economy.

[@elmohead]

@@firefly4326 incorrect. USA creates perceived threats to justify $1T per annum spending on military.

[@ivandafoe5451]

@@elmohead Why claim that Firefly is incorrect when you are both stating basically the same thing?

[@johnli6430]

Exactly ! You got it Noel !

[@johnli6430]

@@elmohead and Firefly are correct !

[@davealy3799]

Everything in this world has an expiration date so does empires !!!

[@johntrojan9653]

Universes too ! (🚽)

[@davidsalcido383]

“Dead-Man-Walking’ AmeriKKKa is in its last Dayz of its rein of MURDER 🌎, MAYHEM and TERROR🇺🇸 - can you believe it?! 💀🇺🇸💀🦇💀🧨💀🐷

[@Koloviv48i]

Indeed, that's the natural order. Nothing stays the same. Even the universe is moving. America one time in the future will be a thing of the past. It will just exist in the history books as Britain, Portugal , Napoleon's France , Romans, the Songhai, the Mali, the Gana, the Egyptian. They all come and have their 5 munites of fame and will disappear.

[@Koloviv48i]

@@davidsalcido383 I can believe it however its coming sooner than anticipated.

[@davidsalcido383]

“Dave Aly: Great Post, LOL! 😂 TheAZCowBoy, Tombstone, Az. The Town too TOUGH to 💀! ☢️!

[@lilydev2808]

Developing a strategic alliance with China is far more beneficial than being a competitor

[@Charcmode]

America is so unconvincing these days

[@Time4Peace]

Clearly, his words of one-China policy are discrepant from his thoughts/action of 2-China policy. That virtual summit was just to buy time to arm and train Taiwan with more deadly weapons, and then leave it to Taiwan to do its damage on China. Like in other countries that US has intervened in the name of democracy, Taiwan will be the one who pays the heavy price.

[@eddiecheang1513]

Yeah, the USA is really good in staging and instigating other countries "brother fight brother", then it either left those countries in chaos or simply marched in to control and dominate over them.

[@pitwongyip1906]

Insightful accurate.

[@michaelloong964]

Henry Kissinger once said: "To be American enemy is dangerous; but to be American friend is fatal.". Taiwan President Tsai will regret for asking the US to help her achieve independence. She will spend billions of dollars to appease the US and comply with all demands from the US to buy expensive arms. When the PLA strikes at Taiwan, the US has already sent their battleships back to Okinawa.

[@zeissiez]

I’m afraid so. Because the fundamentals of the rift between the two countries are still there. Unless the USA accepts the rise of China, and willing to dig down to fundamental instead of by printing money to solve all its problems, the “China threat” will always be there.

[@kokkintang9983]

Agreed.

[@tinatang1]

Yes, the BRI is not owned exclusively by China. All the BRI countries are in partnership with China.

[@richardsmith6644]

9

[@donhuang9855]

The BRI is a mutally beneficial infrastructure development program that most Chinese believe is a proven way for economic prosperity - To become prosperous first built transportation conduits to facilitiates goods and services. In many senses, Biden's "BUILT BACK BETTER" is a mere copy of China's successful infrastructure development programs over the past decades. However, Biden's USD 1.2 trillion is too little too late to built a better America; at best, it will give Americans a false sense of security.

[@mikenekosama4426]

@@donhuang9855 LOL! The BRI suckers countries into getting loans that they can't possibly repay, known as "debt traps", Many BRI countries are now having second thoughts, like Kazakhstan, Sri Lanka, and the Baltic countries. It has been estimated that at least 30% of BRI projects are rife with corruption.

[@donhuang9855]

@@mikenekosama4426There you go barking at the wrong tree again. Truth Be Told, the real issue is not the BRI; it's rampant corruption in these third world nations that is the real cause of the high costs of constructions. Malaysia' former PM, Najib, is a case in point. Then again, the BRI loans were mostly secured through western financial institutions rather than from Chinese banks, with the Chinese government providing a certain percentage of the financing through equities. Even in "goody two shoes" USA, Trump's great wall of America along the Mexican border incurred prohibitive costs due to rampant corruption. In America and Europe, it's not called "Debt Trap" but sanitized as throwing good monies on bad investments. The concept of China's BRI program has been well expounded for decades - it's basically a long term government infrastructure investments to enhance international hinterland trade and commerce amongst nations stretching from the Asian Far East through to Eurasia, Middle East, and into Germany / France in Europe. These BRI programs will serve as catalyse to generate economic activities to attract related investment opportunities, open-up the countries to effect efficient transport of goods/services, tourism, and as well as create more job opportunities along the BRI path for private / foriegn business entities. In fact, the BRI programs have, over the decades, achieved relative successes that even the Biden Administration will be creating a similar infrastructure program known as " Built Back Better" for the global communty; the EU community will, no doubt, be comtemplating a similar infrastructure project of their own soon.

[@blackiemwe1481]

@@mikenekosama4426 US is the center of corruption and it didnt harm them

[@davidndahura7437]

Good show teaching informative and on facts.

[@judykraska400]

Very interesting. Good listening 👂.

[@gazgaz6737]

Biden is talking about human rights. What American govt. was doing in Bagram, Abu Garib and Guantanamo bay with prisoners. Were they following human rights there ??

[@pashakdescilly7517]

Buden talks about the rights of journalists, but is allowing the persecution of Julian Assange to continue, for having published documents revealing US war-crimes.

[@Sabundy]

The double standards and hypocrisy are just mind numbing

[@sandralangen7750]

Of course. It is easier to see the pimple on your neighbours' nose, than the one on your own.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

@@sandralangen7750 By drawing attention to the pimple on your neighbour's nose, you try to draw attention away from your own. There's a BBC interview of Azerbaijan's president, Ilhan Aliyev from April 2021, which can be found on YT. The interviewer asked why his government was prosecuting and imprisoning journalists who were critical of his government. He retorted that the US and UK were doing exactly the same thing to Julian Assange, so that position was hypocrisy. He was totally correct.

[@Sabundy]

@@sandralangen7750 well said

[@emole9511]

I heard of Alfred McCoy via Chris Hedges, another great and open journalist. Mr. McCoy truly understands the the decline of American empire and the rise if China.

[@reason5591]

@Emole Chris Hedges has magnificent insight into what is really happening all around us. I hold very high regard for him 👍

[@sheldoncooper4192]

feels very weird to see this kind of wise understanding, cause all the people are just blaming china for everything

[@Jenvlogs404]

US is most comprehensive of the west with every ecosystem. It’s something never happened in the world, end of empires, diverse, turned negative to positive. Only it’s start, I’m a brwn immigrant btw.

[@Jenvlogs404]

C foundation is not based on freedom or morals to ever lead. Dump of factories and got carried away with greed. Destroying own history and culture. Cheap infrastructure collapses at once. Kind of like the spoiled child.

[@joylean1225]

@@Jenvlogs404 huh? You mean US, right? You been to China?

[@samluca1244]

1:09 who decides the positioning of which flag should be on the left or the right side?

[@tmwyl6985]

Who is USA to point fingers on the human rights issue after all the atrocities they committed globally?

[@abis1688]

Thank you for acknowledging America's involvement in the destabilization and destruction of the Balkan. It's often left out or ignored.

[@mikenekosama4426]

LOL! The Serbians did more than anyone else to destabilize the Balkans! While most of the constituent republics of the former Yugoslavia wanted to join the rest of Europe after the collapse of East European Communism in 1989, Serbia insisted that Yugoslavia remain under authoritarian control. The rest of Yugoslavia told Serbia to F off. Look up "Serbia" and "ethnic cleansing". It's not pretty.

[@Dushan88]

@@mikenekosama4426 go home

[@mikenekosama4426]

@@Dushan88 LOL! So maybe you'd like to explain how every constituent "republic" of Yugoslavia wanted to get away from the iron hand of Serbia? I worked for a company that tried to establish a business relationship with Serbia on different occasions. Our Serbian counterparts had absolutely no concept of "meeting a deadline", "submitting samples", or "writing reports". They were still stuck in a Tito-era mentality, and I realized why everyone else wanted to get away from them.

[@Dushan88]

@@mikenekosama4426 nope

[@mikenekosama4426]

@@Dushan88 Please tell me why Yugoslavia, which had been governed from Belgrade, is now 7 or 8 different countries now.

[@ardien.535]

we needed another hour with Professor McCoy

[@themightykabool]

what a good interview.

[@MrTrda]

Your President can’t have a meeting without reading from a script 🤣

[@lapinchechismosa]

The US is dilapidated, tax those billionaires and corporations

[@SweetPotatoesBlackStyle25]

The place is God awful.

[@vallee7966]

Far too, too late now. The entire Republican Party & “moderate” Democrats are in their pockets.

[@freelance_commie]

Yeah “tax” them by way of mob

[@bingosunnoon9341]

You forgot old and shabby.

[@leoredfield2645]

Taxing billionaires and corporations will do absolutely nothing put cause the poor and middle class to suffer.

[@Wunderpus-photogenicus]

China might rise but the US does not have to decline. Get rid of the zero-sum mentality and embrace the win-win aspiration, and both countries will survive in their own right.

[@ZenTurtle]

It's DemocracyNow! They like binary thinking, either/or mentality.

[@magicsmurfy]

I agree, China is not here to put down America. A lot of people in China still respect US a lot, but the more and more miscalculation occurs, the more and more people in China are starting to doubt on US as a leader. This can be a win win. US has used the cheap labour in China to benefit US (unfortunately that benefit is not equally shared with ordinary Americans, only the rich has got that benefit - which is not our fault that your system does not share equally). There is still a win-win if you believe so. Remember, China never invaded USA. Our warship is not out on San Francisco Bay, but your warships are at our doorstep. What would you do if we start sending Carriers ourside the coast of LA? How would you react to that?

[@andywong9847]

When a great nation decline morally, the writing is on the wall. The Chinese are not interested in what the American do in the world as long as Chinese business interest is not threaten. But the American are curtailing Chinese businesses/companies in every possible way in the rule of laws declare by themselves. Big bully boy.

[@jerry85g7]

U.S. can't live being 2nd place

[@erozionzeall6371]

The US deserves to collapse

[@josephfigueira813]

Well taught out mr mc coy.👍👍👍👏👏👏

[@waryaamoxamad3115]

Influence built on domination and lies vs. Influence built on merits and genuine cooperation.

[@hg1288]

I have a question to Alfred McCoy: What is the right way for US to compete with China? Obviously the present way of blocking, Tariffs and sable rattling only make China and the Chinese people more resilient and more determine to succeed.

[@joshtep6784]

The only rational way. Cooperation, delegation, and strategic competition. We look at China the same way the British once did to us.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@joshtep6784 western gov'ts and Medias, hide behind the mantle of American Hegemony, to spread lies about China. The CIA / NED has been operating in Xinjiang and Hong kong for decades, with the aim of causing unrest and division in China. There were over a dozen Terrorist attacks in Xinjiang since 2006, by the ETIM, which is recognized by the UN as a terrorist organization, but was taken off the Terrorism list by the US gov't. Edward Snowden was a CIA operative that was stationed in Hong Kong for years before he chose self Exile. The American gov't has been waging a "War on Terror" for over 20 years, on Muslim soil, killing Muslim civilians, and yet, pretend to care about the well being of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang. The propaganda machine in Europe and the USA are insidious and Pervasive. The US invasion of Iraq, and destabilization of the country in 2003 led directly to the Rise of ISIS in the region, not to mention Syrian War, Lebanon unrest, and millions of refugees streaming across Europe. Being an American Ally means cleaning up the mess that US gov't creates.

[@joeawk]

@@_Wai_Wai_ NED is all over ASEAN

[@kokkintang9983]

In sports, how do you compete ? By improving yourself in all aspects. By sabotaging your opponent will ultimately fail. So, the US must improve herself and not seek to sabotage China.

[@laogong52]

@@_Wai_Wai_ excellently written.

[@joylean1225]

In short, McCoy is pointing out that China's strategy is a win win one where it helps other countries to develop their infrastructures and naturally development of economy followed which benefits both parties. All done through goodwill without using superiority as a license to just waddle into other borders and dictate who should govern their countries.

[@PhilLesh69]

I've read enough books by former CIA and state department officials to understand that even if Americans came to a country or region with the best of intentions, typically a Republican administration would come along and replace all the career diplomats with a bunch of arrogant zealots who either believed they could threaten and bully their way to better results, or simply lacked any respect for the people they were dealing with because those people were not superior white Christian americans.

[@jhogan1960]

Are you really that blind? China's 'goodwill'? Really? Have you read about how China goes into a country to build infrastructure, using mainly Chinese labor, then leaves the country in debt. Or how China treats her own people, and religious minorities? Do you think Taiwan is part of mainland China? Or do you detest the democracy that is Taiwan? How about what they did to Hong Kong? Was that 'good will'?

[@joylean1225]

@@jhogan1960 nope not blind, just that some of us do read news from independent journalists awa listen to different geopolitical analysts rather than depending on politically influenced media. Just see how differently the media report on the rioting at capitol hill and that of the rioting in HK. First look at how IMF operates first before condemning China or any other country

[@MikeCarrick]

@@joylean1225 And what of their genocide of the Uyghurs? And what of their authoritarian system of “Social Credit”? And what of the systematic attack on Democracy in Hong Kong? Not to deny America’s creeping fascism, but this is NOT a government without blood on their hands. Or is that all made up?

[@joylean1225]

@@MikeCarrick genocide yet uyghurs population has increased and are employed in various fields due to being able to communicate in mandarin thereby bettering its livelihood and whilst Iraq was attacked based on a lie, authoritarian or whatever yet over 90% of the country's population voted satisfaction on their government's performance, a study conducted by a very reputable western varsity, must be due to having shelter, good education, health system and security, systematic attack really or government has to put security law in place thx to some rioters committing violent acts to properties, to people that don't share their views which is ironical as these rioters are supposedly fighting for democracy, and injury too to police personnel whose duty is to keep peace and protect people. Each country has its own system of governance and it is its democratic rights to do so if it works for its country and people. I wonder whether people in those countries that US has gone in to do its magic is doing much better now or worse than before. Yeah, do go visit Xinjiang and no, you won't have problem going there contrary to what some western media has reported. And I have stated in one of my comments that no country has a pristine report. However there are some countries who learned and improved and made hugh progress

[@TimYorty]

We don't learn anything from history. this country looks like its on the same path that led to the collapse of the Roman empire.

[@BITTERTRUTHISBITES]

I really Liked him to hear. thanks A bitter TRUTH.

[@rogerhull5632]

McCoy is at the top of this field and always worth hearing. Thanks for asking him to speak.

[@riceball4u172]

🇨🇳 China Pushjng you back? Umm the US is half way around the world and have hundreds of base surrounding china. So it's ok for the US to do my that in others backyard, but not China in their surroundings areas? Maybe you shouldn't be that far from home.

[@TheOne30264]

This is call American exceptionalism. There is no logic in it. You can't convince them with logic and reasoning. It's more like arrogance and superiority. It will take some generation for people to accept it. After all, the west has been the dominant force for at least 200 years. Only time will change it. In the meantime, just stay strong and don't be a push over.

[@shine-on-tv8082]

You people are crazy for even talking down about the country your from because if China will ever take over there not going to care for you.

[@coolguy007171]

China should build military and missiles launch bases in Cuba and Mexico

[@hassanabdulahi4705]

@@shine-on-tv8082 that’s precisely why I support the rise of China, because unlike the US they won’t interfere in your internal affairs. They just want to make money in win-win situations. I’d rather have a superpower that wouldn’t care than one that is a hyper police force, that arbitrarily imposes their laws unilaterally.

[@stevemace1725]

@@shine-on-tv8082 just a matter of time, horrible management will take care of that.

[@tariqsyed445]

An accurate assessment !

[@kevinbolembach8294]

WOW - eye-opening...

[@user-ff5xy6lu4v]

Already visited china. The new built high speed train station in a less known province Sichuan is so modern like a spacecraft.

[@user-gr5mz8hq2s]

@@GarrishChristopherRobin777 aint all the anglosaxon places built by slaves ? england the one and only thats excluded. 🥴

[@lktan224]

@@GarrishChristopherRobin777 They are not slave . They are hired to build the infrastructures . Idiot .

[@m4a1JAY]

@@GarrishChristopherRobin777 lmao slaves.

[@algodooperson7692]

@@GarrishChristopherRobin777 we are not slaves lol

[@deadbydaylight3168]

i live in new york city and it's absolute shit here. train stations are over 100+ years old and are breaking apart. dirty rats regularly run on across platforms, hobos/bums stink up the whole train which is why usually they take up a whole section, very easy to get assaulted/shanked in a hit-and-run, train is regularly late, and price increases every few years. first time i went to china, mfs had bullet trains and glass doors to prevent people from falling into the tracks unlike in NYC, all we get is a fucking yellow strip of line. not sure why outsiders love to come to NYC.. manhattan/times square isn't even that glamorous compared to many places in asia. it's all lights and nothing else in NYC.

[@plfong22]

Just look at American domestic problems, high inflation, supply chain problem, worsening crimes, increase drug addiction, more homelessness and the list goes on.

[@donhuang9855]

But the US politicians all say that these things that are happening in America is China's faults.

[@plfong22]

@@donhuang9855 let them say what they want, cannot change facts and reality.

[@elliekwong3180]

@PL Fong: Did you see what happened in CA? About 80-100 people got together and robbed a store. . . the real wild, wild west!

[@plfong22]

@@elliekwong3180 yup seen it...and the US govt wants to dictate to China about freedom 🤭

[@rachelstevens6578]

Good 👍

[@Spiritfba]

Hopefully once it’s impossible for the US to dominate, we can start focusing on other things to bring us into the modern world, like universal healthcare, low cost tuition, and paid sick leave.

[@Cooliegeez]

Not only collapsing but deteriorating.

[@daohenlie]

Warmonger: Let's build military bases around the globe, conduct military activities to show who's in power, make sure every other country follows the "rule of law". Peacemaker: Let's build infrastructures to reach out to undeveloped and developing countries, conduct economic activities to help build prosperity for each other, and grow together.

[@goda7137]

That is what they learn in world wars when America was an isolationist country. Finally they understand to prevent it they surround they enemies just like how they did at USSR.

[@donhuang9855]

Natives: Errr, we will consider it; We'll call you, but don't call us.

[@silveriver9]

The US has 800+ military bases around the world. China has only 3. It is the US we should be worried about. The US has been at war 93% of the time - 227 out of 245 years - since its founding in 1776. i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth. History teaches us lessons about how it’s easier to blame others than blame ourselves. The greatest danger we face today is not coming from China. It is our drift toward proto-fascism.

[@anthonymullen6300]

Do you really want the Chinese Communist party to dominate the world according to their doctrine...seriously.

[@subjectively_objective]

@@anthonymullen6300 Have you been to China? Or is everything you know about China explained to you through American media?

[@stenyethanmathews945]

If you take a look at China's high tech cities they are so developed they have left American cities in the dust. We need to ask ourselves where our tax payer money is going that we cant do the same things China is doing.

[@danielli5092]

your tax money went to the military. Your military have been in wars and killing people none-stop.

[@FirstLast-it2ev]

It’s going to the military budget, which to put kindly has made countless enemies of the U.S in countless countries throughout the world…

[@elmohead]

One trillion dollars a year goes to military. There's your answer.

[@yangliu5727]

China is still much more behind than USA, still China face serious demographic and enviromental problems.

[@gfkgfk7178]

@@yangliu5727 what are they behind in? Honestly I'm looking for something. No "America is the greatest" with nothing to back it up. Weapons distribution is one thing I guess.

[@Red-jl5dq]

I am convinced that there are special kind of hell for all politicians .

[@GETJUSTICE4U]

Is there anyone else out there who is confused by the Washington regimes rhetoric on US/China relations. According to the UN including the US and UK Taiwan is part of China. Therefore the Washington promise to defend the sovereignty of Taiwan means it will defend China. So if the US military attack Chinese warships heading for Taiwan would Washington follow up with attacks on the US military that are attacking the Chinese warships? Can some explain how China moving troops from one Chinese province to another is an invasion. Any answer should show how any country can invade and take over itself. There are about 800 military bases spread throughout all the US. When US marines based in say Arizona move to say Colorado is this an invasion as would be the case, according to Washington logic, if Chinese troops station say in Hong Kong moved to Taiwan? Can anyone help clarify these bizarre statements about China invading itself?

[@chrisbacos]

Sadly the major Anglophone nations (USA, UK, Australia, Canada) still have a 19th Century mindset. Like I have said for decades cooperation, not competition. My perspective is to look at China and ask what are they doing right? I know they have flaws in their environmental policies. As for human rights, I know what is happening there. Regarding that, if you're an American have you seen your own country lately?

[@eddieoi9444]

Well said...

[@redfro4992]

@@eddieoi9444 Yea, cause organ harvesting for profit happens in America. Captain false equivalence

[@walden6272]

@@redfro4992 We do that too. Ever been to Las Vegas?

[@wendiqiu3225]

“As for human rights, I know what is happening there”. We know for a fact that the US keeps pushing lies and propaganda against its former foes when it wanted to make them seem like the bad guys (remember Iraq and Afghanistan or the late Soviet Union) but it all turned out to be falsified lies. And Americans and much of the west have forgotten all about it and say well I am gonna believe whatever the media says about China. Ask any expats or native Chinese who has been to provinces dominated by minor ethnicities and you will find how absurd and ungrounded those claims are. There’s no forced cultural assimilation in China and absolutely no so-called “massacre and nazi-scale internment camps” in China. The US used to consider the East Turkmenistan movement as a terrorist organization, until the late Bomba F. Pompeo removed it from the list at the end of the Trump regime, and at that time scholars and informants alike advised him that it is scientifically and legally unfounded to claim that there’s “ethnic massacres” or “forced labor” in Xinjiang. To be absolutely frank, Chinese people simply laugh at the attempts of western imperialist media when it keeps creating lies about China.

[@penhdog2207]

I agree with you but I suggest checking out The Grayzone, The New Atlas and Daniel Dumbrill on China and see how much blatant fiction there is regarding China's 'human rights abuses'. Almost all of it is NED (ie CIA) funded propaganda and weapons industry funded think tank 'research'. I was duped too, until about 9 months ago, when I started looking into moving to China.

[@TheJazzMatt]

China is very old. They see things in terms of decades and centuries. USA can barely see beyond 4 years.

[@thecomment9489]

USA can also see beyond 4 years like who to wage war against in the year 2030, 2040, 2050, 2100.😂😂

[@danielli5092]

every two years. there is a middle term election. hahaha. You missed half.

[@bx9258]

Also trump said “America first” that pissed the whole world off . What a joke 🤣

[@candacewithana4929]

Because we are dumb, fat, and too woke. Ask other countries about is and they say the same. Plus they usually add we are the warmongers of the world.

[@AutoAllan]

This is the consequences of cheating, lying and stealing…

[@HumminbirdMoth]

In the age of ICBMs and medium range accurate Air-to-Sea and Land to Sea missiles to deter carriers ; the talk of First Chain and Second Chain is moot.

[@dsun1263]

I live in China for 24 years and lived in America for 29 years. For my 29 years here in US, there are so many changes, i.e. internet, immigrants, progressive politicians, etc. There are even more changes in China. But one thing is clear, America used to advocate that it’s dominance is good for the world due to its democracy. But the truth is it’s dominance is based purely on military powers. The mirage is gone. American society is downhill because of the baby boomers generation. The Christian values are replaced by chaos. Only today when I went to Barnes and Nobles bookstore, I was surprised to find so many books on how to grow cannabis or marijuana in the gardening session. The homelessness in big cities, the drug issues, the BLM, the unisex bathroom, etc. Only Americans think they are progressing. Forget about the communist labeling of Chinese government. (I think Marxism and Communism is bullshit that no Chinese actually cares, including the leaders. ) At least China is not ruled by special interest and the normal citizens get to enjoy the infrastructures, safe neighborhood and clean streets without human waste and needles.

[@tofuyam7361]

De-criminalizing drugs was a good idea because it made criminals out of people self-medicating depression/mental illness/escapism... the problem is that people are now getting into drugs more than ever because deciminalizing somehow allow legal sales of some of it...

[@dsun1263]

@@tofuyam7361 Well, don’t overestimate human nature. Just think about Prop 47, which is advertised as safe neighborhood. How naive.

[@ruidadgmailcanada8508]

False statements. I’ve been to both mainland China (quite scary how controlled everything is) and Hong Kong. The main problem is the CCP’s chokehold on their citizens. Thankfully the new generations and speed of information sharing has exposed the true nature of CCP control. It’s now just a matter of time before their people rise up against the CCP, the rest of the world is waiting to help. They’ll rise up quickly as their investments in Real Estate disappears. Paper dragon is a correct assessment.

[@tofuyam7361]

@@ruidadgmailcanada8508 You prefer them to be like the US and vote for war and bombing around the world to achive hegemony?

[@blackiemwe1481]

@@ruidadgmailcanada8508 Same 94 percent of citizens that support the CPC. Surely u jest

[@geoff9858]

Alfred McCoy should just admit US is belligerent and hegemonic. He conveniently forgot about the almost 800 bases around the world. How hegemonic one country can be. Sailing warships 12 miles from someone's coastline.

[@philgibbon5446]

😂 USA talking about unfair trade practices while itself sanctions the competition 😂

[@mr_scythefortnite7861]

This is what happens when you find a warrant instead of a solution

[@factanonverba7547]

It's not a billion worth of rare earth minerals, it's trillions worth

[@brianbevilacqua4984]

Bro misspoke, the rest of his info was pretty excellent

[@Jawshuah]

We have as much they just mine it cheaper. The real power of china is its population, work ethic, efficiency, arable land and massive industry

[@junewebb-baptiste2409]

@@Jawshuah Aided by ruthless control from the top

[@perisemiotics3204]

@@junewebb-baptiste2409 I won't dispute the authoritarian facet of its bureaucracy but one cannot dismiss the long-term vision and, more importantly, the awareness regarding private encroachment over the public sphere - something the US will never learn until it's too late.

[@factanonverba7547]

@@perisemiotics3204 huh? That's its main reason for existence, the privatizing and eradication or control of all public spheres. You sound like a flunky from American University. The common ideologies of the last century are just about dead. The leaders and elites don't follow them and the masses can barely learn to tie a knot and prefer wanking or eating, so they could care less unless it creates discomfort.

[@popcycleism]

China study's Sun Tzu: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." While US replaced critical thinking with capitalism and glutinous ignorance.

[@jordie4423]

The rise of China? The real estate sector is collapsing, immense debt used to build roads and bridges to nowhere. China will not surpass the US, the old model for GDP growth is no longer working and citizens consumption will be affected for decades. The real estate bubble in China was capitalism 2.0, people got greedy and the years of growth were possible because of this Ponzi scheme, building ghost cities, and promising great wealth for all.

[@falconeaterf15]

I prefer my ignorance gluten-free.

[@Rudyjosephjr]

@@jordie4423 no wonder it is said that the west were short sighted. 😂 U proven me right. Thanks.

[@virtuous8]

woo wei

[@brucehcooper7994]

Excellent!

[@philgibbon5446]

We can only hope

[@anthonydietrich9581]

You're not talking about military base encircling around China. Chinese navy and military build up is defensive and not offensive as you claimed it to be.

[@stevebreedlove9760]

"Predicts" empire is collapsing. Me: looks aroud* Ya effin THINK?

[@SkyRiver1]

@@ethericboy It may not have occurred to you but the USA is one of the most self-critical nations on earth. All the rot is exposed continually, and lots of fantasy rot too. Your metaphor is a metaphor for nothing real. And your perception is so exacting that you did not even realize that Steve meant exactly the opposite of what you think he did.

[@lapinchechismosa]

@@SkyRiver1 you came over here after you couldn’t debate on your own thread 🤡

[@lapinchechismosa]

@@SkyRiver1 the US needs to butt out, Afghanistan anyone?

[@SkyRiver1]

@@lapinchechismosa Grow up. I reply where ever on what ever.

[@brianbevilacqua4984]

Lol my thoughts exactly. The elites want the population of America to be living in 3rd world conditions.

[@rubbercable]

He's a Historian - not a Military analyst. There is no way America gets beaten militarily.

[@mikefatah]

Amazing!

[@wolf-man-bear-pig-torque]

It's pretty much in line with what a lot of people been saying (outside mainstream media) for a good decade now. People in the political circle want this cold war, but I think most Americans really just want peace and enjoy life from their end. If the inflation and other economic woes get even bigger and these current "culture wars" get more physical, the government can forget about a war with China...we're more likely to have another civil war over those issues.

[@tinatang1]

The US government is trying to divert your attention away from all their failures by shifting the blame for all your domestic woes onto Bogeyman China and may try to start a war with China in the hope of uniting Americans against an imaginary common enemy.

[@foylebutler8952]

there is already a civil war , there just isnt a line drawn anywhere in the sand .

[@trustyetman1678]

I think if a war was declared it would unify the American people against genocide and generally a terrible government system but if it doesn’t happen soon it will be too late

[@amberfoster3285]

@@tinatang1 That's what I think too. The US always needs a bogeyman to control and manipulate the public. Every war since Veitnam was based on lies. I don't believe anything the US media says about other countries anymore, the only way to get the truth these days is through international travel and learn the truth for your self. The US always will us it's media to demonize a country before war starts. I was in Wuhan when COVID-19 broke out. It didn't start there but for telling the truth on Reddit I got banned. That's how the US keeps people from knowing the truth.

[@andrewlim7751]

The Chinese wouldn't careless what said, they don't even wanna talk to him. 😁

[@literung8767]

When a highly regarded country has started to do faultfindings all the time, it is a sign of difficulties.

[@phillipyap7697]

It's not only on country It's also on each individual if we only find faults on other's we got no times to understand our own faults

[@literung8767]

@@phillipyap7697 yep.

[@truthovercomfort7659]

Truth Over Comfort !!!

[@nadeemmaqbool4088]

Excellent knowledge