Historically correct percussion revolver rig and carry methods

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History&Coffee

History&Coffee

3 жыл бұрын

a quick overview of how percussion revolvers were carried in the 19th century and the equipment used.

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@kentuckyjustice1408
@kentuckyjustice1408 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, you have GOT to do something with that cell phone. You're only using 1/3 of the screen, in the form of a strip down the middle.
@SilntObsvr
@SilntObsvr 3 ай бұрын
Easy method: get a tripod that holds the phone horizontally, and it'll magically resize to a modern 16:9 ratio HD video...
@USAACbrat
@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын
I've been a black powder shooter for a long time. I've killed dear with a CVA 44 Navy as well as other things rabbits and quail. A lot of leather was US surplus, sometime modified. Working cattle, horses, or mules with a lariat, cross draw opposite the rope if you want to keep your pistol in your holster.
@Rangerfull3
@Rangerfull3 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, I am a sucker for detail as well and this is exactly what I was looking for.
@backlash00
@backlash00 Жыл бұрын
Portrait video is like looking through a crack in the fence.
@SilntObsvr
@SilntObsvr 3 ай бұрын
And if you had a Remington, you *might* have a pouch for one or two spare loaded cylinders instead of a cartridge pouch. It *was* done, even with Colt revolvers (Colt sold their Paterson with a spare cylinder), but with a Remington it could be done *quickly.*
@williamgregory6684
@williamgregory6684 Жыл бұрын
That is some really nice leather!! Nice video.
@jason60chev
@jason60chev Жыл бұрын
There were holsters for pocket revolvers, if you wanted one
@Master...deBater
@Master...deBater 9 ай бұрын
Why do I feel like I'm peeking through a crack in the doorway?
@thelonerider9693
@thelonerider9693 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful holster! I do think the cav. holsters were crossdraw as the main weapon was the sabre, the pistol was set up on the other side to allow for that. Might be wrong tho. Also... @5:49 "is very cumbersome!" Well said. I have used a crossdraw at the range when no one else is there. (Don't use a holster when others are there cause crossdraw may flag the guy next to me). Tried drawing from strong side grip facing rear, at home, gun not loaded... yikes! Even with my smaller 1851 it was a bear, and with my 1860's 8 inch barrel I kept catching the end of the barrel on the holster. Good thing I never tried that at the actual range! If I ever wear a cap and ball sixgun strong side I'm going with grip forward and twist draw, for that reason (not sure if it is historical but a lot easier)
@zombiezes
@zombiezes Жыл бұрын
crossdraw holsters were used by calvary because it was easier to get to while riding a horse. but you’re not completely wrong though. revolvers usually only have 6 shots so whenever they are spent, they would swap to the sabre. although you would carry the sword on your left hip (or opposite if you’re left handed) so you could still carry a holster on your right hip if you wanted to
@Hot-Shoe
@Hot-Shoe Жыл бұрын
good content but please shoot in landscape mode. looking through a slot hurts my head :)
@connorhart7597
@connorhart7597 10 ай бұрын
I think a similar issue arises with examples of historical weapons. Were all halberds these ornate, beautiful works of art? Or do we just think that because those are the ones people bothered to keep, instead of left in a field to rust away to nothing in a battlefield? Know what i mean?
@josephhaack5711
@josephhaack5711 Ай бұрын
Where did you get your holster, belt and pouches?
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
Good looking leather. You should oil it, to weather proof it, and make it pliable I would use Neats foot oil and mink oil. Make sure the stitching gets extra coating, as the thread is what rots first..
@josephhaack5711
@josephhaack5711 Ай бұрын
Where did you get your rig? Very nice
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee Ай бұрын
It's from Doves and Dandys in Wales UK. I don't think that they ship to the US anymore though because the cost of shipping went way up.
@linuxknight
@linuxknight 3 жыл бұрын
Informative video, nice holsters and guns too. But yeah, you might want to switch to landscape orientation for recording ;) This way [----] not |-| this way ok my ascii art needs work but you get the point... ANYWAY. Thanks!
@jakubfabisiak9810
@jakubfabisiak9810 3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree on the cavalry twist draw (wearing the gun strong side, butt-forward). It's not cumbersome at all - in fact it's easy, especially when you're sitting. It's cumbersome to draw a 7,5 inch barrel revolver using a traditional holster, or even the fantasy "quickdraw" one popularised by westerns, but with the cavalry draw (so called because it came from the Civil War cavalry), it's really easy.
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee 3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid that we agree, you might have misheard me in the video but I advocated for it not against it.
@jakubfabisiak9810
@jakubfabisiak9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@History_Coffee might have misheard, then. Either way works - butt forward (the way Hickock did it), or cross draw. IIRC, this whole quickdraw debacle came from one of the actors to portray Wyatt Earp in ye olde westerns era television, who decided, of his own volition, to learn to draw his gun faster than anyone else before. Kinda like that one scene at the end of Sanjuro defined a whole genre of samurai cinema, so did this, but for westerns.
@AmBotanischenGarten
@AmBotanischenGarten 3 жыл бұрын
Butt forward on my weak side is very close to a cross-draw, and what I prefer. I know it won't be taken from behind me. I practice draw with my weak hand. Advantage--no safety, no racking, if you end up having one hand to work with, you can do it. Hickok carried in a US officer sash, butt forward on both sides, most of his career. The draw can be very fast.
@Italiano-Forte
@Italiano-Forte Жыл бұрын
When cartriges came around did they carry spare bullets in pouches? It seems loose bullets in pouches would be easier than bullets on a belt loop.
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee Жыл бұрын
Yes, the ordnance department made a wood block insert with six holes in it that fit inside the old issue cap pouch for cartridges. Most people threw it away however and just stuffed loose cartridges in the pouch because you could fit more
@Italiano-Forte
@Italiano-Forte Жыл бұрын
@@History_Coffee Thanks
@michaellittle226
@michaellittle226 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@christroupe325
@christroupe325 3 жыл бұрын
Who made the leather goods?
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee 3 жыл бұрын
They're from a UK based shop called Doves and Dandies leatherworks that I highly recommend.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Nice hoglegs
@jamesparsons6268
@jamesparsons6268 2 жыл бұрын
Who does your leather work?
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee 2 жыл бұрын
Doves and dandies leatherworks
@stevenlawson9460
@stevenlawson9460 3 жыл бұрын
Good information
@nancisaling9546
@nancisaling9546 2 жыл бұрын
The movie the good, bad, and ugly. They wore a cartrage belt with a cap and ball pistol. Wrong time period. 1873 colt came out some years after the war.
@jason60chev
@jason60chev Жыл бұрын
How many people who wore arms, ever had to "QUick draw" in a gun fight,etc? Everyone wants to be a pistolero.
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee Жыл бұрын
Not to be contrarian but Wild Bill was known for being able to draw and fire quickly which in my research seems to be a matter of him figuring out to cock the hammer during the draw rather than after like most 19th century folks would have. Also, the Newton Kansas shootout is a good example, a young man named James Rielly sauntered into a saloon, drew two colt 1860s from his belt and dispatched a room full of people he believed had murdered his marshal friend, like something straight out of a movie.
@dsan94
@dsan94 Жыл бұрын
​@History_Coffee there's lots of conflicting accounts on any real life gunfights. In the period you had shoddy eyewitnesses with conflicting details, you have rumors spreading about and becoming twisted from the truth, etc. Many historic gunfights started with guns drawn. The Wild Bill - Tutt shooting happened at long range with some saying both drew and fired at each other and some saying wild Bill drew, steadied the pistol on his left arm, took aim, and fired. I'm sure drawing to fire in an emergency happened about as often as today, which is to say, a relatively small percentage.
@JamesSmith-et8fl
@JamesSmith-et8fl 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your information? Sorry, but there was no reverse or backwards draw. You would get snakebit. Calvary soldiers carried their sidearm on the right, butt forward because their main weapon was the sword. Usually used in the right hand and the pistol was cross drawn with the left. Whoever started this backwards draw thing would not have lived very long in the 1860's.
@63DW89A
@63DW89A 2 жыл бұрын
Revolvers carried butt forward on weak side were very common on the Western Frontier. Check out original photographs (1850's & 60's) of prospectors and miners on the frontier. Having done a bit of prospecting myself, while carrying a Uberti Remington Army replica in a strong side flap holster (right side, butt to rear), I quickly moved the revolver to the left side, butt forward, because the revolver on the right side interfered with panning!
@marcusferguson8458
@marcusferguson8458 4 ай бұрын
Those pistols. Are call black powder pistols. The most common ones. A Remington 1858 new Montana army. Those are old pistols. Did not consider as. Firearms. Clothing A federal law and state law. Because these are old guns. Been used. Says to Civil War. Or longer. Those are not considered as firearms. Look it up. On Google. That's what my dad told me. This is just a tip. Bye bye. Walmart thing. Great job on the video, but learn more.
@hoghunter6872
@hoghunter6872 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, whether modern firearms or single actions cross draw way more comfortable for me like I always said there’s no right or wrong way to carry your firearm as long as you’re comfortable
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