Exocet Attack on HMS Sheffield - Falklands War Documentary

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Falklands War series:
[1] Invasion of the Falklands • Argentina’s Shocking I...
[2] Recapture of South Georgia • Britain's Incredible R...
[3] Sinking of General Belgrano • Sinking of the General...
[4] Attack on HMS Sheffield • Exocet Attack on HMS S...
[5] Raid on Pebble island • Daring SAS Raid on Arg...
[6] Battle for San Carlos - • Argentina's Aerial Ons...
[7] Battle for Stanley - • Britain's Final Assaul...
0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Fabulous
1:36 - Tactical Situation
3:32 - The Raid Begins
9:23 - Impact!
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Sources for the Falklands War Series (so far):
Max Hastings & Simon Jenkins, Battle for the Falklands
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Martin Middlebrook, Operation Corporate
Martin Middlebrook, Battle for the Malvinas
Mike Norman, The Falklands War There and Back Again: The Story of Naval Party 8901
Kenneth Privratsky, Logistics in the Falklands War
Sandy Woodward, One Hundred Days
Paul Brown, Abandon Ship
Julian Thompson, No Picnic
John Shields, Air Power in the Falklands Conflict
Edward Hampshire, The Falklands Naval Campaign 1982
Hugh McManners, Forgotten Voices of the Falklands
Cedric Delves, Across an Angry Sea: The SAS in the Falklands War
Rowland White, Vulcan 607
Vernon Bogdanor, The Falklands War 1982 lecture • The Falklands War, 198...
Arthur Gavshon, The sinking of the belgrano archive.org/details/sinkingof...
Gordon Smith, Battle Atlas of the Falklands War 1982 by Land, Sea and Air
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Hansard- api.parliament.uk/historic-ha...
Recording of Thatcher's statement to the commons is from • Falklands Invasion
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@historigraph
@historigraph 2 жыл бұрын
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@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac 2 жыл бұрын
Feedback: Although this video is great, it still feels incomplete: 1. How did the jets return to Argentina? Did they have enough fuel, or did they have to refuel on their way back, too? 2. Did the pilots earn any medals from Argentina? 3. Did those five men who died because they refused to abandon their stations get any medals? 4. What were the consequences for the captain and the senior officers? You said the captain of the Glasgow had prohibited the use of that communications rig - I assumed that was to set the stage for a court marshal, or at least a new fleet-wide rule. Also, those men not being at their stations, surely they didn't just get off with zero career consequences?? Overall, a GREAT video, but the end seemed very abrupt, and the story still unfinished :)
@barrydysert2974
@barrydysert2974 2 жыл бұрын
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@adrien5834
@adrien5834 2 жыл бұрын
You should consider using Google Translate to hear the correct pronunciation of foreign words. It's Etendard, but you say En-tend-ard. Since you say it multiple times, it gets a little annoying.
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrien5834 In fact, he says "in-ten-dart" 😅 (the first time, at least; at 2:36 he says "in-ten-thars," and at 2:49 it's "in-ten-dars" - I think that's literally every option covered, lol) But yeah, it totally threw me for a loop the first time, too 😆 I actually had to rewind multiple times, but still didn't really get it.... Luckily, the Subtitles were written out, so that helps people who want to Google the plane - _really_ cool that he makes that extra effort! 😃👍🏼 (the auto-generated subs, by contrast, think he says "nintendos" at 2:49😂👌🏼)
@adrien5834
@adrien5834 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrNicoJac I mean, I did like the video. I didn't mean to sound too acerbic...
@troo_6656
@troo_6656 2 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to imagine the frustration and dread at HMS Glasgow when their sister ship isn't doing anything to prevent iminent danger.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 2 жыл бұрын
Even more so was they "confirmed" 4 kills when all they got was well 2. Lost contact after engagement = confirmed kill
@imking1630
@imking1630 2 жыл бұрын
What happened with the second missile? There is no reference in the video, it just disappears from radar.
@acomingextinction
@acomingextinction 2 жыл бұрын
@@imking1630 It's not entirely certain because unsurprisingly, the crew of Sheffield were similarly garbage at tracking that situation. It probably missed the Sheffield and splashed down half a mile away. Pure luck that the ship didn't get hit a second time.
@frostyrobot7689
@frostyrobot7689 2 жыл бұрын
There's a really good summary of the engagement at the start of Sandy Woodward's memoir "One Hundred Days". He goes in to a bit more detail on what was happening in HMS Glasgow's Ops Room.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 2 жыл бұрын
@@imking1630 is ran out of propellant and was seen ditching into the sea. This was seen visually by some RN crewmembers. Iirc its documented in a ships log.
@TheOperationsRoom
@TheOperationsRoom 2 жыл бұрын
10:11 The way you present complex information in the form of infographics is second to none
@historigraph
@historigraph 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate- means a lot
@iminovsky
@iminovsky 2 жыл бұрын
You two should consider doing collab videos -- love both of your work!
@crystallineentity
@crystallineentity 2 жыл бұрын
High praise from the Ops room right there, I love both your channels
@markingraham4892
@markingraham4892 Жыл бұрын
It's fake. Sheffield sunk days later when a tug rammed it.
@KibuFox
@KibuFox Жыл бұрын
As Sheffield burned, the men in the lifeboats began to band together. While British ships were close by, many of the young sailors were starting to panic. Reportedly, one of the officers started singing "Look on the Bright Side of Life" from the movie "Life of Brian", and before long had the entire surviving crew singing along. This helped raise morale and spirits of the survivors, and is regarded as one of the smartest decisions made that day.
@rebelgaming1.5.14
@rebelgaming1.5.14 Жыл бұрын
Monty Python to the rescue, as per usual
@mrkiky
@mrkiky Жыл бұрын
One of the smartest decisions made that day, but the bar wasn't set very high previously 😂
@knowstitches7958
@knowstitches7958 10 ай бұрын
Nonsense,do have any recordings or were yoy provided with any,NO but parroting British lies and copium of a disastrous war,thanks to US and Chile the later bombed Argentine air field to prevent a massacre..
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 8 ай бұрын
As a Yank, I’ve always admired the British armed forces for their tenacity and dry sense of humor.
@helloxyz
@helloxyz 6 ай бұрын
Yup, I heard this at the time from survivors.
@casematecardinal
@casematecardinal Жыл бұрын
Damn, those pilots had balls. They rushed headlong into what could have been almost certain death with no support or escort and waited till the last possible moment to maximize effectiveness of their weapons. It may be textbook in a way to get as close as possible but its easier said than done. And thats why you never underestimate your enemy because they are very capable of putting a hole in you if you font respect their ability to and willingness to be bold.
@elorejano81
@elorejano81 Жыл бұрын
Ciertamente .es como llegar a tu casa y ver a tu familia amenazada no te va a interesar tu integridad para con los demás obviamente !!!
@lucasnormanschneider5190
@lucasnormanschneider5190 Жыл бұрын
I agree witj you but there's something alse should be mention that is that Argentinean belibed for wot they were fighting.
@buscador3933
@buscador3933 Жыл бұрын
Tampoco los aviones tenían radares
@georgebishop4941
@georgebishop4941 Жыл бұрын
​@@buscador3933 Sí, lo hicieron. eso dice en el video
@regarded9702
@regarded9702 Жыл бұрын
​@@capitandelespacio2 you should start believing in your economy instead, god knows it needs it
@Werrf1
@Werrf1 Жыл бұрын
Props to the Argentine pilots, this was pretty much a perfect textbook attack.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 8 ай бұрын
on a pretty much suicide mission. look how many antiair ships were there thats crazy
@jacktattis
@jacktattis 8 ай бұрын
The Brits should have made sure that the Argentinian Airforce was destroyed
@marceloocchiuzzo9444
@marceloocchiuzzo9444 7 ай бұрын
Gracias, desde la Patagonia. Muchas gracias
@grahamwilliams7114
@grahamwilliams7114 7 ай бұрын
And they paid for it
@Lt.Gruber
@Lt.Gruber 7 ай бұрын
The Argentinian Navy aviation and airforce caught the Royal Navy with their pants down a few times, flying questionably suicidal missions in outdated aircraft yet still sent ship after ship to the bottom of the Atlantic. Nothing short of miraculous and heroic. Argentina deserves to be proud of its pilots who did the best they could with what they had against an enemy who is superior in every way.
@aaronjohn6586
@aaronjohn6586 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of what happened to the Sheffield and why. The 2 Argentina pilots are to be credited with the daring boldness of their attack. They used their equipment to its full capability, maximized their skill set and attacked. They truly lived the credo "fortune favors the brave."
@paulhodgetts1803
@paulhodgetts1803 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was only British soldiers and sailors burning to death. Knob
@karlshaner2453
@karlshaner2453 Жыл бұрын
Nah, they were chicken and blind. They wanted bigger fish, and settled for a guppy.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 Жыл бұрын
The two naval pilots had rehearsed the attack a number of times in war games with their own Type 42 destroyers. Some of the simulated attacks were carried out with naval Tracker aircraft.
@karlshaner2453
@karlshaner2453 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhearn3052 War favors the bold.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 Жыл бұрын
@@karlshaner2453 true. But they got lucky!
@vinloy23
@vinloy23 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant. The Super Etendard-Exocet combo is deadly for navies.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 10 ай бұрын
If your navy hasn't upgraded in 40 years, and your enemy's navy hasn't upgraded in 40 years, then yeah, sure.
@poxiplu1095
@poxiplu1095 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very well done and entertaining. With just 5 exocets, the argentinian naval air force proved the enormous skills and bravery of their pilots. Sinking two majors british ships (HMS Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor), if argentinian forces would have more exocets the outcome of the war could have changed. Another thing to note is that France not only refused to give Argentina the other 9 they should have give them, the french also refused to teach the argentinians how to operate them, so argentinians had to figure out how to do it in very short time. That was also very remarkable. I'm argentinian and I have to say that war sucks. But both sides fought bravely. RIP all the heroes that fought on both sides.
@mirandela777
@mirandela777 5 ай бұрын
Worst, the 5 missiles were 4 in fact ( one was a dud, in this attack, crashed in the water) and the Argentinian Air Force have ZERO maintenance / spare parts for most of the fighters ( US embargo since 1976) and the french not even installed the targeting modules for the exocet ! They refused, and they refused to service the fighters, also. Argentina was forced to adapt and improvise, and they only had FOUR working missiles...
@danielnavarro537
@danielnavarro537 Жыл бұрын
The fact the Argentinians went below to about 50 feet above sea just to use the earth’s curvature fascinates me. I never knew the earth’s curvature could be use in such a manner. I wonder if other aerial operations of other wars used this tactic too. I find it interesting and amazing that the earth’s curvature could be use to hide oneself from the enemy. Very fascinating. Overall very well made video. Godspeed to those who perished during the Falkland War. 🇫🇰 🇬🇧 🇦🇷
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 Жыл бұрын
Its a really common tactic. Its why no one really cares much about Hypersonics nowadays, as long as you have harpoons that can glide along the curvature of the earth with minimal issues.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
Common tactic.However the Argentine aircraft had to climb above the horizon to allow them to acquire the target.The bearing and range to the target allowed the missile to be launched.This according to the pilot took between one and two minutes,and after launch the aircraft dropped below the horizon while executing a 180 degree turn.The Exocet missile has an active seeker guidance system that switches on after launch to search for the target and home onto it.A ship won't out manouver it once launched.The only possible defence is,shootdown which is difficult,jamming or decoy.
@EE-ve3vh
@EE-ve3vh Жыл бұрын
Thats why North Korea has studied this war and started producing Argentine Pucaras....
@matiasfpm
@matiasfpm 10 ай бұрын
​@@EE-ve3vh.... what? Never heard about that
@claudiotepedino5753
@claudiotepedino5753 9 ай бұрын
​@@matiasfpmbecause is not true
@josepablolunasanchez1283
@josepablolunasanchez1283 Жыл бұрын
Amazinly upon returning to Argentina, Argentine soldiers and pilots felt more respected by the Brits than by teir own people. For people it was the same reaction of losing a soccer game. But only veterans know the deep sadness that rests in a battlefield. This is why all veterans from any country, have my respect, especially if they are conscripts.
@elorejano81
@elorejano81 Жыл бұрын
Si Inglaterra perdía iva ser lo mismo además en el país estaban bajo una dictadura militar financiada x EEUU fue todontriangulado para q esa guerra se diera no fue tan al azahar !!!
@claudiojaviertajan1024
@claudiojaviertajan1024 Жыл бұрын
Coincido soy aargentino y en esa epoca hubo muchos desa0arecidos x las tonterias de ee.uu de desaparecer a kos comunistas en sa epoca aqui si se valora a los veteranos de mavinas
@tuff9486
@tuff9486 Жыл бұрын
@@claudiojaviertajan1024 No eran tonterias. Los hijos de mil puta de los comunistas plantaban bombas en mi Tucuman. Ponian bombas en jardines, en autos y no les importaba si moria gente inocente. Y si el ejercito no hacia nada, Argentina seria como cuba.
@Toxic2T
@Toxic2T Жыл бұрын
You can thank the left wing terrorism for turning the people against the army for imposing order on the 'dictatorship'(Aka Proceso de Reorganizacion Nacional). That's why our soldiers got the nam treatment. Thankfully it's changing and Argentina is slowly letting the left wing die.
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday 5 ай бұрын
​@@elorejano81 It was not England. Britain is the country I am part of. Should our forces have come back alive but defeated our government would have fallen and then the next would have been forced to build better armed forces to win back the territory. Even if by then all the islanders had been evicted and replaced by Argentinians. Or not last very long.
@phildurling7185
@phildurling7185 2 жыл бұрын
The UK military learnt a lot from this conflict. Having being largely army focused due to the NI troubles no one thought that aluminium on warships or nylon uniforms for the ship's company would be a problem. Also putting the right personnel in the right positions. The captain of Sheffield, as I understand it, was a former submarine commander. This wasn't the only incident that lessons were learned from, there were others. In any conflict lessons are learnt quickly, early on. I don't think that it was just the fault of officers in command but also the designers and beaurocrats back in the UK ministry of defence. The bravery shown by both UK and Argentine military is without question.
@sichere
@sichere Жыл бұрын
The Sheffield's role was primarily to counter the submarine threat and a former Submarine Commander was an appropriate candidate.
@docdr7199
@docdr7199 Жыл бұрын
@@sichere Sheffield was a type 42 air warfare destroyer - not there primarily to counter the submarine threat. The Captain & First Lieutenant's skillsets were found wanting - according to the Board of Enquiry.
@sichere
@sichere Жыл бұрын
@@docdr7199 Indeed but the role that they had at that time was to counter the very real Submarine threat, as an unsuccessful attack had already been made on the Task force and the Captain was not reprimanded.
@docdr7199
@docdr7199 Жыл бұрын
@@sichere We disagree...
@sichere
@sichere Жыл бұрын
@@docdr7199 The Task force was attacked by ARA San Luis on the 1st May. ARA San Luis completed a five-week patrol unscathed. She staged several attacks on British warships but missed each time because of torpedo system malfunctions. Meanwhile, British ASW efforts against that single target proved futile. The British fired over 200 torpedoes at false contacts over the five weeks, You are correct but the bigger picture was that the RN were forced to operate their ships in ways they where not designed for, including defending the beachhead in San Carlos. Previous to the Falklands, Whitehall had assured the RN that the RAF had the ability to cover Naval operations. Also, initially Exocet missiles were not identified as Foe, due to the British fleet operated them too, so only defensive action could be taken at the time. After the attack on HMS Sheffield and the withdrawal of the Argentinian Navy, the computers were updated.
@rainbowseeker5930
@rainbowseeker5930 9 ай бұрын
No doubt the Argentinian Air Force was something to contend with, not only because of its size but mostly because of its daring and highly skilled pilots. I've always had the impression that the Brit Fleet somehow underestimated the danger the Argies' planes posed and later paid a high price for it. A lesson for future engagements.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 8 ай бұрын
not 300 fighters jets, the number includes all. but it was pretty big during the military regime yeah
@agustinlucchetti
@agustinlucchetti 7 ай бұрын
small correction, most of the damage to the british fleet was done by the Navy Aviation (COAN), not the Air Force. The COAN that was specifically trained to perform these exact type of attacks. The Air Force was big in numbers, but had very limited ways of projecting power to the Islands, the planes simply lacked the range and equipment. That's why on paper the numbers greatly favor Argentina, but in reality there was never a favorable situation in the air combat for us, everything we could do was avoid detection by flying low, strike the naval assets and assets on the ground, and fly back. There was no realistic scenario where we could stand a fight with A4s that had no radars, no flares, and no MAW vs the Harriers.
@mirandela777
@mirandela777 5 ай бұрын
What "size" ??? They only had 240 aircraft, most of them 30 yo +, many propeller fighters from ww2 era, and from those 240 ONLY 120 were available. Worst, they had no maintenance for them ( US embargo from 1976). Even Belgorod was a ww2 era cruiser, lol, 50 yo, and was killed by a brand new nuclear sub... Imagine that, an 1938 cruiser fighting a modern nuclear sub...
@rainbowseeker5930
@rainbowseeker5930 5 ай бұрын
@@mirandela777 - "Many propeller fighters from WW2 era"...! Are you crazy or just plain ignorant ? Please tell us make and model of such imaginary "propeller fighters" ! Then, you switch to naval affairs (though I wrote about the AIR FORCE only) ! Then you talk about a "US embargo from 1976"....Dude, that embargo was imposed on the neighboring country of CHILE...not Argentina ! and so on... Moral: keep your mouth SHUT before writing novels or else better hit the books and get acquainted first with facts !
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday 5 ай бұрын
Everybody respected the ability and daring of those pilots, because they were Argentine. Once the fleet set sail I relaxed. Anyway, the man who told me it was about to kick off down there had found himself a job in Britain a month earlier. Mind you, hitting Sheffield surprised and annoyed me.
@rickm9244
@rickm9244 2 жыл бұрын
Balls of steel from the pilots and sailors and the mercy of command failures. The task force failed at basic defense and the pilots took full advantage of the command failures. This is from someone living in the UK. The enemy pilots (from my point of view) were very brave as everything should have been against them.
@fasfas8999
@fasfas8999 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly Sir !!!!
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah closing well within firing range of anti air destroyers that were part of a carrier task force requires balls big enough that I'm surprised the planes took off. Not only that but they thought they were attacking the aircraft carrier at first which they would have been aware had a screen protecting it.
@paulcardin6344
@paulcardin6344 Жыл бұрын
I think when you're dealing death on behalf of a fascist Junta, the bravery can only be described as misplaced.
@82Pucara11
@82Pucara11 Жыл бұрын
@@paulcardin6344 Wikipedia?
@PramurtoMukhopadhyay
@PramurtoMukhopadhyay Жыл бұрын
@@paulcardin6344 God Save the Queen! Her fascist regime!
@Seyhawk
@Seyhawk 2 жыл бұрын
As a former destroyer sailor, this is an absolute nightmare. Great job as always on this video.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
4:13 Flat earthers will naturally make terrible pilots and navigators.
@historigraph
@historigraph 2 жыл бұрын
One imagines they would get shot down *a lot*
@living2ndchildhood347
@living2ndchildhood347 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a professional Marine Navigator. The Earth is not flat.
@ajay9429
@ajay9429 2 жыл бұрын
@@living2ndchildhood347 tell this to muslims 😂🤣
@maxkennedy8075
@maxkennedy8075 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t build a “cheap ship” If you reduce the monetary cost you’ll pay in sailor’s blood
@andrewholdaway813
@andrewholdaway813 2 жыл бұрын
Also, get a competent captain.
@cjclark2002
@cjclark2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewholdaway813 hard to believe those kinds of issues still exist isn’t it?
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjclark2002 I mean not really, humans are always humans and even though we try to make the military purely a professional thing based on merit that's hard in practice. Plus you never know when someone is just having a bad day, that's kinda the issue in war, it's almost impossible to keep alert 24/7 and humans are bad at judging risk. Also I think it's worth noting that the Admiral takes just as much blame here since he seemingly had the same careless attitude and didn't redirect the jets nor did he order the fleet to take proper precautions like not using satelite communications.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Which we are doing again by skimping on weapons system for Type 45.
@petersummers5728
@petersummers5728 Жыл бұрын
What about the sas in Argentine , observing all departures of combat aircraft? This was a cock up.
@iainmalcolm9583
@iainmalcolm9583 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, most people in the UK (that are old enough) remember the Falklands War. However the detail you provide is fantastic. Learned things I didn't know. Currently the IWM channel (Imperial War Museum) are running a video series about the Falklands war. Worth checking out for anyone interested in learning about it.
@bobmiller7502
@bobmiller7502 2 жыл бұрын
It was NEVER a war brother,, it was a conflict war was never declared, just greasing the wheels and sharing the love xxxx
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 Жыл бұрын
@@bobmiller7502 like the Ukraine, you meant to say? Not a war?
@mohammed_2939
@mohammed_2939 Жыл бұрын
Those videos are propaganda, ir you're really interested on the conflict, see both countries videos, with NO propaganda.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 Жыл бұрын
@@bobmiller7502 correct as Thatcher never stood up in parliament and declared that we were ar war with Argentina.
@bobmiller7502
@bobmiller7502 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhearn3052 xx
@herseem
@herseem Жыл бұрын
"I suspect someone's been bloody careless" - from your account, that was a very prescient and perceptive comment given how little he knew of the details of the situation at the time.
@JFDA5458
@JFDA5458 Жыл бұрын
British understatement at it' finest (the "bloody careless" comment)
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 жыл бұрын
How could the Sheffield's crew not imagine that the planes' position in relation to their ship was slightly different than that from their sister ship?
@morgan97475
@morgan97475 2 жыл бұрын
The "fog of war" always causes confusion.
@MiffedStarfish053
@MiffedStarfish053 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect because someone had been bloody careless
@living2ndchildhood347
@living2ndchildhood347 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the crew failed to make the transition from “peacetime thinking” to “wartime thinking”……. I saw that in the Balkans War (1999) onboard the USCGC I was temporarily assigned to in the war zone.
@dogcarman
@dogcarman 2 жыл бұрын
Because their boss the captain hadn’t trained them well? Allowing the use of a comms system that blinds the radar in a combat zone doesn’t indicate a good leader….
@dashsocur
@dashsocur 2 жыл бұрын
Easy, in high stress environments critical thinking skills rapidly degrade. This means that Glasgow's message was probably a bit less precise than would be the case in a peacetime simulation. Add in the inherent complacency of the Sheffield's officers probably thinking it was another false alarm, combine that with the "telephone" effect of the message going through multiple people, and it makes perfect sense why there was confusion. The radar operators were probably told "look for any air contacts on 'X' bearing" rather than "Glasgow reports air contacts bearing 'X'". When they then saw exactly what they expected (ie: nothing), they almost certainly chalked it up to someone on Glasgow getting "jumpy" and went back to whatever they were previously doing.
@MrMinimanmatt
@MrMinimanmatt Жыл бұрын
You have to give the argentines credit for how well this operation was carried out
@ericcheng3143
@ericcheng3143 Жыл бұрын
The argentinians were hasty in the invasion. They needed the ethendards and the exocets. Having them would have caused the lost of more ships.
@georgerivera9220
@georgerivera9220 Жыл бұрын
Ethandards?
@matiasfpm
@matiasfpm 10 ай бұрын
​@@georgerivera9220Super Etendarts, the froggys planes 😂.
@mattyb7183
@mattyb7183 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading one book a while ago that talked about one issue the Royal Navy had during the war was its anti-air capability. From what I remember, the author said it was due to what the RN was expected to do in the event of the Cold War going hot. The RN had been given a particular task (anti-submarine if I remember correctly) as part of a larger NATO mission, with the expectation that other NATO Navies would be there performing other tasks like dedicated air defence and so on. So the RN had spent decades planning to fight as part of big multinational force and then came the Falkland War... Suddenly the RN was fighting a war it had never expected and they found they had some serious capability issues, with air defence being a big one. As what they had avaliable was good if there is someone else nearby with better kit and you expected to be part of a wider network. Not so good if it is the only thing avaliable. And of course, the Argentine pilots had the skills to find and exploit those short comings.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 2 жыл бұрын
The argies had bought two Type 42s from us and were able to practise mock attacks against them. That is one reason in part why the attack on the Sheffield was successful.
@TeamCGS2005
@TeamCGS2005 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful observation, though it no doubt explains why the UK went on the develop the Type 45 Destroyer.
@SamBao
@SamBao Жыл бұрын
@@TeamCGS2005 and in the next war RN's adversary will attack them with submarines 😂
@octowuss1888
@octowuss1888 2 жыл бұрын
The type 42 performed very poorly in the war. Their sea dart missiles were not effective at low level and were slow to reload. They had no CIWS. Of the three ships in the video, Glasgow was hit on the 12 May by a 1000lb bomb that miraculously passed right through the engine room without exploding. However, damage was done to the fuel lines and hull and the ship was crippled, only able to manage 10 knots. It was forced home and took no further part in the conflict. Coventry was lost on the 25th May when three 1000lb bombs hit the ship and at least two detonated. It capsized and sank in less than 20 minutes.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 Жыл бұрын
More importantly after repairs she was found to be bent due to her hitting a torpedo off the stern. She was only kept on because she was fairly new
@CosmoMomen
@CosmoMomen Жыл бұрын
CIWS*
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 Жыл бұрын
@@CosmoMomen what CIWS in 1982?,the Yanks had fitted only one, to a carrier 2 years before on a test faze, they wouldnt have shared that so quick,back then im sure it was quite top secret on its existance and abilities even to the american public,and it was still in its try out stage, anyhow british had sea dart and sea wolf, the problem was the strikes was made before a established picket line could be affected, meaning two type 42 frigates should have been in support of each other, one with its radar beam set low to mid, with low altitude AA missiles on board like sea dart, and the other with its beam set high for high level attack with high altitude AA missile on board like sea slug, these beams should have overlapped in conjunction with each other, unfortunately in the case with coventry and antelope, the attack came in at the time of the retaking and they hadnt had chance to form up and be in place..the attack came in low onto antelope who's radar and weopon system was for high level, and should have been passed onto and took over from the frigate with a low level beam set ,but due to the speed of the attack, they hadnt formed up and implemented the airspace coverage yet, in fact rapier hadnt even been unloaded for shore based air defence, thats war! and when your in the position for a first strike capability this will always happen..
@NavalGuide
@NavalGuide Жыл бұрын
They performed extremely well considering the situation. Your completely rewriting history. “Slow to reload” compared to what? “No CIWS” only the US Navy has CIWS at this time and only in very few numbers.
@octowuss1888
@octowuss1888 Жыл бұрын
@@NavalGuide"Your completely rewriting history" No, you are completely wrong. Only two of nineteen Sea Dart missiles fired at low level aircraft hit - 11% success rate . I would not say that was performing extremely well. Ships were lost and sailors died because of deficiencies in the missile system. However, it does seem that the main area of deficiency was not the actual missile but the associated Type 965 fire control radar. HMS Exeter was equipped with the newer type 1022 radar and shot down two Skyhawks (out of four), flying less than 15 metres above the sea, which is considerably below the Sea Dart's minimum engagement altitude of 30m. So, if the whole fleet had been upgraded with better radars, the RN may have suffered far less losses. The missiles still take about 20s to reload from the magazines before they can be launched. So, during a low level attack, this is really only a one 'shot' system as there is only a single twin launcher and both missiles were often fired together to maximise kill probability. Sea Wolf had separate sextuple missile launchers fore and aft. CIWS was present on many Russian warships of the era.
@dfolt
@dfolt Жыл бұрын
Was a midshipman in the West German navy at the time, and of course we were following closely what was going on down south in 1982. I dare say that this film is the most clear and instructive on the chain of events that has lead to the loss of HMS Sheffield that I have seen so far. BZ!
@SnakeBush
@SnakeBush Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service to the DDR
@dfolt
@dfolt Жыл бұрын
@@SnakeBush Federal German Navy was not the "DDR".
@rainbowseeker5930
@rainbowseeker5930 9 ай бұрын
@@SnakeBush - DDR was the Communist Germany... you mean the Bundesmarine, West Germany's Navy.
@avengermkii7872
@avengermkii7872 2 жыл бұрын
What a preventable attack. They had ample warning and they managed to screw it up. There are times, I think, some commanders don't deserve their post.
@benwilson6145
@benwilson6145 2 жыл бұрын
Submarine Captain! Helicopter No2!
@paulrasmussen8953
@paulrasmussen8953 2 жыл бұрын
Alot don't
@robertdlucas7418
@robertdlucas7418 2 жыл бұрын
No one was held responsible in typical British cover up.
@theoraclerules5056
@theoraclerules5056 2 жыл бұрын
There was of course a full-naval board of enquiry afterwards that exonerated Captain Sam Salt from any undue blame in this incident! He had of course responsibility to answer for the performance & conduct of his ship, for himself & those of the HMS Sheffield’s Officers, NCOs & Crew too, during this event & the immediately preceding period, which he did in fact do too! The fact that there were then no specific, uniform ’Royal Naval’ standing orders or standard operating procedures regarding these particular systems at that time in effect that directly led to the circumstances that had been brought about by turning off one particular operating early warning radar system, in order not to compromise the operational efficacy or security of another, separately-integrated, parallel functioning, electronic-systems, therefore would then seem to expose an obvious systemic oversight & inconsistency in operational protocols at that time in 1982, a fact backed up by only HMS Glasgow of the three (The Sheffield, Coventry & Glasgow) screening Type-42 Destroyers then on forward Fleet Air Defence duties then performing these duties, had also operated, as both the alternative EWS & inter-ship communications systems had been also both temporarily switched off too by on their respective Captains’ orders & hence, they were unable to establish contact with either of the two other Type-42 ships then on forward Air Defence Patrol, whose corresponding systems had been then temporarily deactivated on legitimate but inconsistent RN orders under these circumstances!! This incident then led to a navy/fleet review of operational procedures in those situations & apparently it had been deemed by the subsequent naval enquiry that this case had arisen due to newly implemented or even experimental technologies not having been clearly, previously defined or systematically applied, but then overtaking existing operational procedures at the time that in this particular case had directly led to the tragic loss of lives & sinking of the HMS Sheffield! Later, Captain Sam Salt went on to complete a successful naval career, retiring as a Rear Admiral in 1997. He died of cancer in 2009.
@SantiagoAriasEskapa
@SantiagoAriasEskapa 2 жыл бұрын
HMS Coventry was sunk and HMS Glasgow was hit....so who could tell anything to Captain Salt
@lonjohnson5161
@lonjohnson5161 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this well as I was a bit of a news junkie at the time. It even had made it into one of my science magazines. One thing to remember is that this was so deadly because of mistakes ON BOTH SIDES. The Exocet missile had a much longer range than had been used. Had the missiles been fired from a safer distance, there would have been less fuel to feed the fire, which was far deadlier than the warhead alone.
@leopold3146
@leopold3146 2 жыл бұрын
There's always enough food for a fire in any machinery room...
@lonjohnson5161
@lonjohnson5161 2 жыл бұрын
@@leopold3146 True enough. However, the assessment at the time was this specific missile was more of a molotov cocktail than a bomb.
@farrela3620
@farrela3620 2 жыл бұрын
So the missiles were shot shorter than the intended range and that makes it less deadlier because less fuel? I think I misunderstood something because I don't understand the logic
@jamesfisher5233
@jamesfisher5233 2 жыл бұрын
@@farrela3620 makes it more deadly
@NahuCommNS
@NahuCommNS 2 жыл бұрын
@@farrela3620 Not less, more. Shorter distance = Less fuel expended.
@robertnichols2283
@robertnichols2283 2 жыл бұрын
It just hit me- that was forty freaking years ago! That’s about halfway as far back in time from now as WW2! Good God time flies!
@georgerivera9220
@georgerivera9220 Жыл бұрын
There is still time to reconcile yourself to God by accepting Jesus. Time flies on Earth but eternity is forever and slow.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
What freaks me out is the Falklands conflict today is longer ago than WWII was when the Falklands happened.
@polkban
@polkban Жыл бұрын
Accurate description, well done . Greetings from Buenos Aires.
@DaDe224
@DaDe224 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! You shine a light on the complexity of naval operations that I feel are usually very much oversimplified. It also brings to life the gruelling reality of fighting aboard tin cans floating on 100's of metres of water in the face of missiles and torpedo's that require only a single hit.
@PM-tm7bp
@PM-tm7bp Жыл бұрын
I'm still amazed at the quality and detail in your videos. This is great work. Thank you
@helloxyz
@helloxyz 6 ай бұрын
One of my leading seamen came from the Sheffield. He confirmed that the ship was slack, in many ways. The captain was a nice guy, not a ship driver or warrior. But otherwise, the problems of Sheffield were common to my ship as well, and to most of the Royal Navy. We had nylon clothing, nylon bedding, thin anti-flash gear, all designed to cut costs (and weight, perhaps). A week after Sheffield's sinking, we all received horse-hair mattresses, thick cotton N° 8s, proper anti-flash gloves and balaclava. These had all been in store (in Gib, in my case) for years - 1974, my mattress was built. On my ship, I had been complaining for months that the Rover gas turbine - used for auxiliary fire fighting in case the main drain failed, but also for pumping water out of the ship when firefighting or when flooded - did not work. We got a new one after the Sheffield sinking. One of the reasons the Sheffield crew had so many problems was that the exocet split the main drain and firefighters could not get any water pressure, so could not control the smoke, provide boundary cooling, or attack the fire. Their Rover didn't work, either. Exocet only carried a small warhead, plus any remaining fuel. The short range at which they were launched meant that there was still plenty of fuel, adding to the fire, but the warhead was only sufficient to punch a hole in the side. A similar missile hit the a**e end of the Glamorgan at the end of the war and good damage control prevented any more serious loss. It took 2 exocets to wreck the Atlantic Conveyor, but two were not enough to sink the USS Stark. A 500kg bomb would cause much more damage than an exocet, but Argentine bombs rarely exploded due to the low height from which they were dropped. I've just been reading about the Japanese naval air experience - and what is most impressive is the huge number of weapons that are needed to sink a warship - armoured during WWII. One or two hits shouldn't affect a big ship like a carrier with good damage control. But British ships of Falklands vintage were designed to stand up to 1 500kg bomb, but not 2. So, Coventry, capsized after two bombs, but Ardent survived for a day after 3 bombs (with many more unexploded), Antelope was hit by 2 bombs, but only one exploded near the magazines which also detonated, sinking the ship. In conclusion, considering the Argies had only 5 missiles, they squandered them on unimportant targets, a rookie error, and failed to follow up their hit with anything else. Poor strategy, poor planning, poor tactics, generally poor business, and hitting the Sheffield, a ship that wasn't going to make any major contribution to the war, was poetic justice.
@manueldamianbelen9962
@manueldamianbelen9962 Жыл бұрын
Los pilotos navales, Armando Mayora - Augusto Bedacartatz.🇦🇷 4-5-1982 El Sheffield se convirtió en el primer buque de guerra británico 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿hundido desde Segunda Guerra Mundial y el primero de la OTAN. 20 Muertos y 63 heridos condolencias a familiares del HMS Sheffield - Su capitán Sam Salt. Despues del fin de la Segunda Guerra Mundial , Argentina🇦🇷 , Excelentes pilotos Alemane🇩🇪 en nuestro pais capacitaron a los pilotos arg. Adof Galland - Hans Ulrich Rudel- Behrens Otto - kurt Waldemar Tank- Werner Baumbach- Heinz Scheidhauer.
@azzajames7661
@azzajames7661 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P to those 20 sailors that died on board HMAS Sheffield🙌
@hemeoncn
@hemeoncn 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well done. I remember this well being in the Royal Canadian Navy at the time as an Ops Room rating so everything that happened was important to me, especially mistakes when fighting the ship.
@scottessery100
@scottessery100 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to cpt salt …
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottessery100 seem to recall he retired sometime later on. Was on the board of a company. He may have passed away recently.
@graemegeddes3987
@graemegeddes3987 8 ай бұрын
@@scottessery100. He was appointed in Command of HMS Southampton within a year. Subsequently he was promoted to Admiral and retired from the Navy in the ordinary course in 1991. Sadly he passed away from cancer a few years later.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! I have read and seen many recountings, yours is the clearest.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this clearly. The ‘wake up’ value of it was quite astounding. What happened to the second of the Exocets?
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 2 жыл бұрын
It ran out of propellant and ditched into the sea.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhearn3052 Ah. Cheers.
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhearn3052 It malfuncioned, it have enough propelant.
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 2 жыл бұрын
@@geordiedog1749 The guide system malfunctioned
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarbradley6807 That would mess it up pretty good. Cheers
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy Жыл бұрын
Just comes to show how important a good captain is. The other destroyer was on the ball, and would have survived that had it been targeted. The ship's crew did everything it could to save its sister. Meanwhile, the Sheffield's crew were unprepared, lax, and doing things they shouldn't have been doing during wartime. That is something the captain could have resolved, but didn't.
@TheModforlife
@TheModforlife 6 ай бұрын
At the time the exocet hit the Sheffield it was in communication which meant it had its radar turned off also at the time the only system that could tackle low flying missile was seawolf which the Sheffield was not equipped with
@loungelizard3922
@loungelizard3922 2 жыл бұрын
The animation of the fire spreading on the ship reminded me of FTL. Excellent video, you're amazing at what you do.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 Жыл бұрын
A fire on a ship is far more scary than you can ever imagine
@jonnyharris2612
@jonnyharris2612 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to Historigraph but glad to have discovered the channel. I've just watched a series these vids on the Falklands War and believe they are very well researched, written and animated. Solid story telling with an efficient style.
@grahamkearnon6682
@grahamkearnon6682 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was an 18 y o greenie on Hermes down south, in the video you see burn victims landing in helos., our job was to fill the helos with firefighting gear, you could smell the burnt flesh inside. Apparently the Exocet never exploded its warhead, the rocket fuel did the damage. Who gets promoted, sure enough Sam Salt for running a sloppy ship, can so eone say coverup RN style.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 2 жыл бұрын
...and flew him directly to the admirals ship...ouch. that's is when you know you've messed up bad.
@slots1407
@slots1407 2 жыл бұрын
No tea and biscuits offered.
@patopato9668
@patopato9668 Жыл бұрын
"you disappoint me for the last time" darth vader/adm. woodward dixit
@mellon4251
@mellon4251 2 жыл бұрын
While still tragic this sinking really puts in my mind how small this conflict was in comparison to other naval conflicts like WWI and WWII where sometimes thousands die on a single afternoon. If this was a destroyer in Jutland or in Midway it wouldn't even have been mentioned.
@ceruleancrow5884
@ceruleancrow5884 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They don't even tell people that during Jutland the British destroyer screen was forced to fight alone against the German high fleet and while they did get one dreadnought, they lost several in return.
@Vic-E.
@Vic-E. 2 жыл бұрын
It's true. However, modern (...well, semi-modern speaking of T42s) destroyers are not anymore "minor" vessels like their WWI/WWII counterparts. Today's guided-missile, air defense destroyers are the biggest and more valuable surface asset of a Navy next to an aircraft carrier. So if tomorrow someone would sink a T45, the relevance would be huge.
@seawolf4846
@seawolf4846 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceruleancrow5884 Pre-Dreadnought actually.
@ceruleancrow5884
@ceruleancrow5884 2 жыл бұрын
@@seawolf4846 I just checked myself, yeah you're right :)
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 Жыл бұрын
@@ceruleancrow5884 Trading several WW1 DDs against a pre-dreadnought is a very good deal, in terms of manpower, money, tonnage and building time …
@smuk6405
@smuk6405 Жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting and well compiled series on Falklands war. Well done
@jamesscalzo3033
@jamesscalzo3033 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video @Historigraph! Can't wait for the next video man! Sheffield wasn't the Only Ship lost on the British side of the Falklands War, her Sister Coventry and hours later the Container Ship Atlantic Conveyor were lost to AM 39 Exocet Missiles a few days later.
@networkbike543
@networkbike543 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea so many mistakes were made by Sheffield. Senior officers still with peacetime thinking. Best graphics I have seen that clearly shows the sequence of events.
@terik3312
@terik3312 2 жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you'll be covering the sinking of the Alantic Conveyer in this series?
@historigraph
@historigraph 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it will of course be mentioned in the relevant video
@terik3312
@terik3312 2 жыл бұрын
@@historigraph awsome always felt it was a bit of overlooked ship despite the important role it played in the war, all people remember it for is being sunk
@mikemcghin5394
@mikemcghin5394 2 жыл бұрын
And HMS Coventry by bombing
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 жыл бұрын
@@terik3312 I'd argue that actually she was the most significant loss of the war - Ardent, Antelope, Coventry and Sheffield were ultimately all escort vessels - their job if necessary to take a hit. Atlantic Conveyor was one of the ships they were trying to protect.
@terik3312
@terik3312 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomriley5790 especially when you consider what she carried and how her loss drastically effect how Britain fought the eventually Ground war
@digyourowngrave97
@digyourowngrave97 2 жыл бұрын
Woo! Favorite channel post right before bed!
@ricardokowalski1579
@ricardokowalski1579 2 жыл бұрын
4:10 Yes you can have Harriers and they are killers. But Harriers could not fill the role of AWACS or E2s. Argentina's pilots exploited this blind spot. History was made, lessons were learned.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 2 жыл бұрын
That's the reason why two seaking helicopters were converted to AEW with the addition of an extra forward seeing radar and two observers onboard.
@docdr7199
@docdr7199 Жыл бұрын
If you read Sharky Ward's book, he says the Harriers on CAP could/should have detected the incoming Etendards, but they were sent away to do a surface search leaving a big hole through which the Argentinians attacked.
@red.5475
@red.5475 Жыл бұрын
Things would have been much different, had HMS Ark Royal and her aircraft still been in commission.
@Highendaudio1
@Highendaudio1 Жыл бұрын
@@docdr7199 Clearly you dont know the facts and rely on a book. I think that statement is exaggerated
@docdr7199
@docdr7199 Жыл бұрын
@@Highendaudio1 Yup. I wasn't there so I have to rely on accounts written by those who were.
@tinoduboisen9703
@tinoduboisen9703 Жыл бұрын
The pilots had an extra problem when flying so close to the sea and it was the salt that stuck to the windshield and made it difficult to see, so they used to have to support the helmet against the side glass which caused a huge vibration inside the helmet.
@biko331966
@biko331966 Жыл бұрын
My two cents: (i) you forgot to say that the fleet was tracked by a Argentine Navy's Neptune, and the attack was properly prepared (ii) the way of attacking was studied by engineers and one university in Argentina, on how to fly without "touchjing" the lobe of the type 42's radar (a maneuver called "peeking the lobe")
@muskiet8687
@muskiet8687 Жыл бұрын
(i): 2:58 (ii): 4:03
@biko331966
@biko331966 Жыл бұрын
@@muskiet8687 4.03 it was studied using our type 42 ship's radar at the Universidad del Sur.
@markwilliams7205
@markwilliams7205 Жыл бұрын
I agree you have a gift for presenting complex information in a concise and clear way - first class
@historigraph
@historigraph Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@afwaller
@afwaller Жыл бұрын
This is excellent quality documentary. Well done.
@marcelogomez6859
@marcelogomez6859 Жыл бұрын
En Malvinas , Argentina combatió con la mayoría de aviones antiguos y armamentos viejos , se hizo bastante a pesar del bloqueo de la OTAN
@matiasfpm
@matiasfpm 10 ай бұрын
Habia una mezcla entre aviones viejos y nuevos. Los q muestra en el video eran contemporaneos de su época
@tka4nik
@tka4nik 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always!
@Jesse_Dawg
@Jesse_Dawg Жыл бұрын
Amazing series. love every episode so far as i get through this playlist. please more videos
@petenztube8592
@petenztube8592 2 жыл бұрын
New Falklands documentary, yay! Thanks!
@micahistory
@micahistory 2 жыл бұрын
I like this channel's emphasis on naval history
@Hollows1997
@Hollows1997 2 жыл бұрын
Woodward was right. Someone had been bloody careless.
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac 2 жыл бұрын
More than one, it seems
@mrgreatauk
@mrgreatauk 2 жыл бұрын
But it seems that he himself was a bit too dismissive of Glasgow's warning...
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrgreatauk Yeah, I'd say the admiral who disregarded Glasgow, that's Careless #1. And also the captain of the Sheffield for that radio rule, #2. And also the two senior officers who apparently both weren't at their stations simultaneously, #3 & #4. Captain of the Glasgow should've gotten a promotion for this, though - only person with a head on his shoulders....
@MrWongCx
@MrWongCx Жыл бұрын
I doubt that the admiral was that careless. At any given time in operations, a hundred things are happening at once. The Admiral had to trust his crews to the task. Too many false alarms on the radar, and people will slip up.
@fasfas8999
@fasfas8999 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Secrecy, surprise and bravery was the determinant attack
@bigdmac33
@bigdmac33 2 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation - full of detail and presented factually.
@jasperphua9319
@jasperphua9319 Жыл бұрын
Despite all these, bravery to the pilot that did the operation.
@warhawk4494
@warhawk4494 2 жыл бұрын
Aluminum isn't a good thing to build ships out of first of all. Second Kevlar burns quite nicely and puts out tons of toxic smoke,three: electronics burn nicely too and puts out tons of toxic smoke also wasn't the water mains hit too? Also the ship had a pathetic air defenses. 2 20mm cannons,sea dart Sam's that suck at any range,4 30 cal machine guns and a 4.5in cannon. Like wtf royal navy.
@DougAdams
@DougAdams 2 жыл бұрын
And this was a specialised anti-air ship... insane
@Icetubexd
@Icetubexd 2 жыл бұрын
Even Modern AA platforms like CWIS, combined with long range missile defense, are vastly overrated. Sadly since the advent of airpower, navies have had a consistent habit of underestimating new aerial threats to their ships, that trend is continuing to this day.
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 2 жыл бұрын
And the Argentine navy HAD the same ships or the same Sea Dart systems and they KNEW just how they work or didn't work. One for "know thine enemy"
@living2ndchildhood347
@living2ndchildhood347 2 жыл бұрын
And the Brits found that their uniforms made of synthetic rayon melted to their skin while firefighting and that corfam shoes also melted to their feet. We in the USN & USCG dis ban corfam shoes from shipboard use and once aga issued flash gear as what was used during WW2.
@michaelhearn3052
@michaelhearn3052 2 жыл бұрын
Sheffield was an all steel build.
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 again for your EXCELLENT work
@Thomas_Name
@Thomas_Name 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great episode.
@migueltridico6390
@migueltridico6390 Жыл бұрын
Gloria eterna a los valientes pilotos Argentinos !!!!!
@antimimoniakos
@antimimoniakos 2 жыл бұрын
Atlantic Conveyor was more critical loss due to the material carried. Exocet wasn't the only threat because 14 ships were hit by conventional bombs through air raids but didn't explode. If those 14 hits were exploited or if Argentina had more Exocet missiles UK would have lost the war. I've seen a documentary where the Argentinian pilot said was launched the Exocet from longer distance and it didn't exploited but caused the fire due to its fuel.
@EE-ve3vh
@EE-ve3vh Жыл бұрын
They did not explote because Mitterand gave the codes to Thatcher.
@martindione386
@martindione386 10 ай бұрын
@@EE-ve3vh there wasn't any codes, you can't disable a missile with "codes", Mitterrand might have given other useful information like the search radar frequencies to jam it.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 10 ай бұрын
​@@martindione386 You are correct on the codes. But Mitterand didn't have to provide any frequencies. The frequency bands used by radar seekers on all but the most experimental missiles are common knowledge to all the leading military powers.
@TheDrAkira
@TheDrAkira 7 ай бұрын
Nice narration of events. Thanks for being respectful with both bands. Malvinas/Falklands is still today a very sensitive topic for us Argebtinians and for UK of course. Both bands had sustained lots of casualties thanks to bad politicians...
@TomFynn
@TomFynn 7 ай бұрын
There were only bad politicians on the Argentinean side. You know? Those that made tens of thousands of Argentinians disappear into dark torture cellars?
@UFalum2011
@UFalum2011 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you!
@teacherwayne6680
@teacherwayne6680 Жыл бұрын
One of my Friends was onboard HMS Sheffield when it was struck and survived to tell the tale. It was a terrifying experience for him. He still suffers this day with the experience (mentally).
@mariomoreno9954
@mariomoreno9954 11 ай бұрын
Same for the Belgrano sank by the submarine while the navy was out of exclusion zone, the order was made by Margie. These attacks were the anwers from understimate opponent. Finally many lost men in both side afer war, very very sad history.
@nestordelponte4511
@nestordelponte4511 Жыл бұрын
"No hay quien pueda con los pilotos Argentinos" Sandy Woodward
@hernandemornay7559
@hernandemornay7559 Жыл бұрын
Tampoco hay quien pueda hacer esa filmación del Exocet impactando en el Sheffield ,desde donde se filmó ? Quien la filmó ? Que estaba haciendo filmando justo en ese momento, considerando que el misil venía a una velocidad altísima y nadie lo sabía ,como estaba preparado el camarógrafo para el impacto tan bien ubicado y con cámara de esa calidad ,puedes decirme quién hizo esa filmación o si es real o una simple recreación ?
@jorgebotta8299
@jorgebotta8299 Жыл бұрын
@@hernandemornay7559 siga pensando!
@hernandemornay7559
@hernandemornay7559 Жыл бұрын
@@jorgebotta8299 pero no tienes respuesta verdad ,esa filmación del Exocet es una filmación francesa experimental ,la presentan como que es el Sheffield pero no lo es , hundieron realmente al Sheffield ? Porque presentar imágenes que no corresponden al hecho ,quizá no hubo tal hecho,siga investigando y entenderá y después quizá ,quizá te de por pensar
@jorgearg8701
@jorgearg8701 Жыл бұрын
@@hernandemornay7559 jajaja ahora se duda de que hundieron al barco JAJA
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday 5 ай бұрын
And the missile was shown hitting the target on British television that night or the night after. A French salesman had the film in his briefcase when he saw a client?
@johncox2865
@johncox2865 Жыл бұрын
Very good historical info. Thanks.
@farmingpotato3372
@farmingpotato3372 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Can you make one on the battle of Midway?
@juanmc5731
@juanmc5731 2 жыл бұрын
15 feet at 500 knots that's less than 5 meters at 926km/h the cold guts to do that are astounding.
@monkee1969
@monkee1969 2 жыл бұрын
50 feet
@monkee1969
@monkee1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrien5834 i've no doubt .... but we're talking about the aircraft & pilots not the missiles.
@DanielRico77
@DanielRico77 Жыл бұрын
el peor pecado de la guerra "exceso de confianza" Inglaterra se había creído su propio discurso sobre su absoluta superioridad militar.
@martindione386
@martindione386 10 ай бұрын
no sé si toda Inglaterra, pero el capitán del Sheffield seguro
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday 5 ай бұрын
England is part of Britain. Almost until Belgrano was judged too dangerous we hoped that the invaders would go back home. After it was the sad business of sending them home dead or alive. From what was known of the Argentinian government by the people in Britain, it would be a sad fate for them.
@DanielRico77
@DanielRico77 5 ай бұрын
En Ucrania les ha pasado lo mismo.
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Sir thank you
@bernadmanny
@bernadmanny 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this.
@gabrieldeutz6465
@gabrieldeutz6465 Жыл бұрын
Admirable las proezas de los pilotos argentinos!
@maxkronader5225
@maxkronader5225 2 жыл бұрын
Silver lining: As bad as it was for her, Sheffield actually accomplished her primary mission. Neither carrier was struck by enemy fire. In extremis, the duty of the escorts is to take the hit to save the carrier. Thus, despite all the mistakes, and almost certainly inadvertently, Sheffield did succeed in her primary mission of keeping the carriers from being hit by the enemy missiles.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
Followed by the Atlantic Conveyor on 25th May 1982, sacrificed to decoy the two Exocets.
@sichere
@sichere Жыл бұрын
@@EdMcF1 Exactly - "Picket ships"
@martinvacirca7126
@martinvacirca7126 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure ?
@Matelot123
@Matelot123 Жыл бұрын
@@EdMcF1 Atlantic Conveyor wasn't "sacrificed". The two exocets that hit her had been successfully decoyed by chaff fired from other ships. Unfortunately, Atlantic Conveyor wasn't fitted with any kind of countermeasures and was subsequently struck and lost. The loss of the Atlantic Conveyor was a huge blow to the task force as it was carrying a lot of important equipment including heavy lift Chinook helicopters.
@Cloud7050
@Cloud7050 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! High quality. One thing I noticed was that the video captions are an older version of the script and don't match the narration.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Blame for the Sheffield also largely lay with the commanders (and 800 squadron) on Hermes who would not listen to Sharkey regarding the performance of Harrier’s RADAR, 800 squadron rarely used it believing it to be dead weight where as 801 were getting terrific results using the RADAR for CAP duties sweeping large areas - inter service “pride” (arrogance) meant that they would deride Sharkey rather than try to learn from him and his squadron. Harrier CAPs were often sent off to investigate contacts using the Mk1 eyeball rather than sweeping the area with RADAR - this is why the current CAP Harriers were off on a wild goose chase when Sheffield was attacked - to spend half an hour doing a visual search that could have been done in 5 seconds with air-borne RADAR. It also transpired after the war that Argentinian pilots were told to RTB if they detected Sea Harrier RADARs - so if 800 squadron had taken Sharkey’s advice and technical assistance in the use of Sea Harrer’s Blue Fox, many attacks on the fleet would have been thwarted merely from the presence of two thirds more Sea Harrier RADARs in the sky.
@matiasfrias8280
@matiasfrias8280 Жыл бұрын
Viva la Patria carajo!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
@themanftheworld8439
@themanftheworld8439 2 жыл бұрын
The senior crew of Sheffield certainly played their part in this unnecessary sinking is the only conclusion I can draw.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 Жыл бұрын
One person should take all the responsibility Salt
@Highendaudio1
@Highendaudio1 Жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 Why is that exactly? Reading this is funny to read ill-informed views based on a crappy inaccurate made up video which bears no resemblance of the facts. Let us me hear your reason why you think Sam should take fault when none was due
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 Жыл бұрын
@@Highendaudio1 Because he was aware of the inherent threat but he was chatting to a friend in I understand in Whitehall using Scott which disabled the use of the 965 and 992
@Highendaudio1
@Highendaudio1 Жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 you see you read and listen to far too many ill-informed people. Let me educate you. He was on the sat phone for official reasons and it had nothing to do with Whitehall. The sat phone is what is affected by radar not the other way around. Sheffield wasn't fitted with 965 radar and this issue is that 965 and 965M were not designed to and could not detect low-flying targets or missiles. Sheffield was not fitted with 992 which was a radar designed for weapon guidance in a set band. A bit of a history lesson for you. The widely fitted 965 underwent improvements post-corporate to improve the surface clutter capability using better doppler and other aspects. the 965M was still no better and In its basic form, it was a radar that saw service in the 50s, so what did we expect? Type 42 were warships that were poorly planned, designed, and equipped due to the lack of money in an era when high-level bombers still carried the deterrent. By 1982 one has to ask if using them as radar pickets was a decision made without facing reality. You may talk about Sea Cat and Sea Slug ( Both well-accepted as not worth the effort ) but Sea Dart like its associated radar was designed to take out high-level bombers. The part that is blacked out in the inquiry all but says, Sheffield wouldn't have stood a chance even if all ducks had been lined up in a row. HMS Glasgow. She didn't detect the Supers Es at 40 miles out on radar; they detected a UAA1 A radar transmission. This is where the Super Es comes up to transmit on their radar to get the final TMA before releasing their weapons. After firing their weapons, the Super Es and the other aircraft (Yes, there were three) then went low again, and they were again invisible to our radars. HMS Glasgow never saw the MPA that was there for hours and located Sheffield and called in the attack. HMS Glasgow never at any point detected any of the three aircraft by radar The threat that was being dealt with at the time was the supposed submarine threat which was totally over-exaggerated. In short, the radar system in our fleet at the time was not fit for purpose and we the problem not the people as you suggest
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
As did the senior crew on board Hermes sending the Harriers off on a wild goose chase to do visual searches rather than allowing them to fly their usual CAP and sweep the area with RADAR. Argentinian pilots were told to abandon attacks whenever they detected Sea Harrier. These two Etendards flew through where the Harriers should have been patrolling.
@hiddenhistory6459
@hiddenhistory6459 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this video is promoting my Falklands videos.
@cristianherrera1690
@cristianherrera1690 Жыл бұрын
Great video and you tell the story in a imparcial mode, happy day for the veterans argentines fall in the islands!
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@kenharris5390
@kenharris5390 2 жыл бұрын
Historical evidence from the Royal Navy says that if a fire onboard a ship is not brought under control within ten minutes, then the chance of regaining control diminishes. A valiant effort must be applauded by all on board. A combination of circumstances converged at a crucial moment in time, as is present in many disasters. Lessoned learned, has enabled a range of changes in various actions, procedures and ship design. Most importantly, the realisation of the condition of PTSD, by those whose war never ended, would eventually result in the recognition and treatment for this nightmare.
@Tconcept
@Tconcept 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting thank you. I visited Sheffield during navy days in Portsmouth 1981, it was a shock to see her destroyed on the news in '82.
@armypenguin
@armypenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Your content is 10/10 like late 90s early 2000s history Channel. thank you.
@gastonmdq07
@gastonmdq07 2 жыл бұрын
you mean before they brought aliens into their show
@armypenguin
@armypenguin 2 жыл бұрын
@@gastonmdq07 nah dude aliens did everything
@622PSS
@622PSS 2 жыл бұрын
11:20 Any follow-up action on that?!
@historigraph
@historigraph 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of officers (not Cpt Salt) were found to be negligent but weren't publicly court martialled as the UK govt didn't want bad vibes in the wake of the Falkands victory
@lovablesnowman
@lovablesnowman Жыл бұрын
​@@historigraph it wasn't made public for over 30 years..... Cover up doesn't begin to cover it
@miansape04
@miansape04 Жыл бұрын
I am neither British or Argentine, but it amazes me that all the comments blame Salt or either say that the loss of the ship was do to careless job of the British sailors. But there is not a single comment praising the professionalism and excellent training of the Argentine naval aviators that did an excellent job. All coins always have two faces.
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 Жыл бұрын
If the bridge crew had done their job, odds are Sheffield would have survived
@miansape04
@miansape04 Жыл бұрын
@@littleshep5502 There is no way that the Sheffield would have survived with the damage of an Exocet missile that went through the center of the ship.
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 Жыл бұрын
@@miansape04 that's what I'm meaning. The AA and defence officers didn't react, meaning they didn't fire chaff, didn't activate the AA defences, and basically sat and waited to be hit. If they had fired chaff, odds are it would have missed them
@miansape04
@miansape04 Жыл бұрын
@@littleshep5502 My friend there's no way AA or chaff could stop an Exocet missile lunched 25 miles away and coming in at Mach 0.93 skimming just a few feet above sea level, the ship crew did the only thing they could take cover and wait for impact. AA is not designed to fire to an object coming in at sea lever. That was the masterpiece of Argentine naval aviators, they surprised the enemy and hit at their weakest point. In the aftermath all the other 3 Exocets lunched against British ships couldn't be stopped. The Argentines had only 5 Exocets of the 14 they had ordered, imagine what would've happened if the other 9 missiles had been delivered by the French.
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 Жыл бұрын
@@miansape04 HMS Glamorgan, fired upon by land based exocet, fired chaff, disrupted it. HMS Exceter, fired upon by air to surface exocet, fired chaff, disrupted it. Chaff would have worked
@Mag_Aoidh
@Mag_Aoidh 7 ай бұрын
I remember when that happened. I was glued to my little tv keeping up with the news.
@martyb3783
@martyb3783 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was in the US Coast Guard at the time and felt really bad for the crew of the Sheffield.
@jamesm3471
@jamesm3471 2 жыл бұрын
This sort of thing could never happen to a modern warship these days, not even a Russian one…
@shaftoe195
@shaftoe195 2 жыл бұрын
"Even". Lol.
@living2ndchildhood347
@living2ndchildhood347 2 жыл бұрын
I must respectfully disagree!
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there.
@d.olivergutierrez8690
@d.olivergutierrez8690 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, It looks like having vodka for blood doesn’t improve your combat awareness after all.
@williaml.
@williaml. 2 жыл бұрын
Xd
@ONI_002
@ONI_002 2 жыл бұрын
i still feel like you should add music to your intro. Otherwise excellent video as always!
@waffles4322
@waffles4322 Жыл бұрын
I actually have a mug from the HMS Sheffield, my GPA was US Navy, traded one from his ship for it when he met them in port before the war. So somewhere on that wreck may very well be a mug from the USS Piedmont
@therealuncleowen2588
@therealuncleowen2588 3 ай бұрын
War is so terrible and fascinating. Humanity doing it's worst to each other, and yet the pressure of risking one's life often brings out the best of humanity.
@ModlyModly
@ModlyModly 2 жыл бұрын
Ernesto Proni Leston and Sergio Sepetić were pilots of Neptune “2-P-112” that found HMS Sheffield.
@protonneutron9046
@protonneutron9046 Жыл бұрын
Those two pilots pulled off a very difficult mission.
@rafaeldouglas2065
@rafaeldouglas2065 9 ай бұрын
This ships' loss falls squarely with Captain Salt. Taking on "mail" communications was bound to compromise the ship's early warning radar. It is surprising that the Captain and others were not summoned for Courts Marshall for the ship's demise.
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