History of Shotokan SPECIAL EDITION | ART OF ONE DOJO

[@Kyle-vb3fz]

As a practitioner of Shotokan Karate, I really appreciate this video. You did your homework, and I am very impressed. Finding your videos a few years back inspired me to begin training again. I achieved Shodan-1 degree black belt in 2008, and quit in 2009 after competing for a long while. Since taking up studying again, I achieved my Sandan, 3rd degree black belt yesterday. Always keep training, never stop. Thanks for getting me back to training, and now I’m teaching my children.

[@songoku9348]

I miss Shotokan. This damn pandemic needs to be over.

[@benjaminhoover6427]

Just try to practice what u can remember critter:)

[@roadman_hanzi]

It's over now! Lol ,

[@songoku9348]

@@roadman_hanzi I posted this comment 4 years ago, why are you replying now?

[@roadman_hanzi]

@@songoku9348 I wanted to know if you started shotokan training or practiced shotokan after the pandemic

[@songoku9348]

@@roadman_hanzi Oh right, I started training 14 years ago in 2010.

[@robertfowler348]

As a former Kyokushin and later Shotokan student, I'll testify that the low stances in these styles are intended as a way to build up the lower body in training. Higher stances provide much more quickness and agility when you're fighting. You'd be an idiot to sink into a low stance in combat. On the other hand, having the lower body strength to cover 3 meters (including leaping and sliding) in a single step is really handy if you need to close in quickly. Some dojos teach students to hop up and down when sparring. Hint: if you're in the air you can't change your direction or position. If you're sparring or fighting with someone that does this, start your lunge as the sucker starts to rise. It's easy because the hopping is very rhythmic.

[@radiatorqcpogo3268]

I'm ready to start Shotokan over again! Been 8 years I didn't practice. I started at 7 yrs old, stopped at 12 because I entered the cadets and started highschool. I made 1 years of karate shotokan in 2011-2012, then stopped until now. I'm waiting for everything to reopen to start Shotokan again and accompany my friend in shitoryu. I'm watching your channel to set my mind in the mood of martial art

[@Wushutigercranekungfudragon]

👍

[@Wushutigercranekungfudragon]

Wow i didnt expect the lyoto part.good job. Wow i didnt even think about stephen Thompson whennu did ur kempo series. He is the most popular karateka in the ufc

[@danielsargent4461]

How's shotokan going brother?

[@gbody2617]

So.

[@bs84578]

I again started after crossing 50

[@FFXWarrior]

As a practitioner of shotokan karate for over 10 years now, I thank you for providing this historical account of the martial art, osu!

[@xtremluck6260]

Thank you for doing an unbiased documentary about Shotokan Karate. I've seen a number of your videos and truly appreciate your tone on all the arts. I admire the respect you give to all the different styles that make up the vastness of where we are today. Thank you.

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Thank you. There is too much negativity and hate in the martial arts...sometimes it's worth looking at all the good an art can offer and understand its place in history.

[@xtremluck6260]

@@ArtofOneDojo What I've seen and heard on "Art of One Dojo" you've become a great custodian of the arts and we all thank you for showing the insights through your video's.

[@brandon-ln8jh]

@@ArtofOneDojo could you do history of diado juku (kudo karate)

[@TarnTarn-zv6cp]

I began to learn Shotokan in the late 80s, I progessed to brown belt double tag, 1st kyu or 2nd kyu I think, it was a long time ago, as I was below 16 in age I was told if I passed my black belt grading it wouldn't count as I was junior and would have to do it again at 16. I ended up leaving after paying for lessons yet "teaching beginners " I didnt realise this was actually beneficial for me and what it was the reason my sensei made me do it. I am seriously thinking about beginning again. I still have my KUGB license and all mybelts. I trained twice with Sensei Enoyda ( spelledwromg) he was the highest Dan ( I think) at that time. I am sure that Basei Dai is the kata first seen I this awsome documentary

[@jacksonswagga]

Thank you so much for doing this episode. I am a Shotokan karate practitioner. Along with bjj and Chinese kenpo.. You always show such respect.

[@buddy9200]

Well done! Great delivery and documentary on the history of Shotokan Karate Do. I have had the privilege of training seminars under Sensei Hidaka Nishiyama a direct student of Master Funakoshi, My Sensei David Blair trained under Sensei Hidaka Nishiyama up until his passing. I have also had instructions from several of Sensei Hidaka Nishiyama top students. I hold a 2nd Dan and 3 of my children are black belts as well. I love every aspect of Shotokan Karate Do, it's regiment and demand for hard training, I've tried Shito Ryu a very close typ System, and Kung Fu. Shotokan Karate Do is tailor made for me. It's the U.S. Marines of martial arts 🥋 I have live in three different housing projects and was an avid Street fighter, Shotokan Karate Do Nevertheless taught me how to fight with "Class" Ous!

[@keithgour5236]

Great video! I am a Yondan ( 4th dan ) in Shotokan Karate-Do. You have done an excellent job pointing out that within the same “ style “ there are different organizations that hold different philosophies and therefore have different training methods. Thank you!

[@captainbeaver_man903]

I trained shotokan just because the lineage of the TKD system I train in is of shotokan lineage. Its good stuff.

[@robertfowler348]

It's been said that TKD is Shotokan with the serial numbers filed off.

[@crodd92]

What lineage of tkd did you do? I was wondering what is the closet karate style to the kicks of tkd.

[@captainbeaver_man903]

@crodd92 my lineage is Chung Do Kwan founded by Lee Won-kuk. He earned his 4th dan from Funakoshi

[@JoesRambles]

I am a big fan of your "history of" videos. I read a lot of martial arts history but many authors are biased towards their style and the writings reflect that. Nice to see someone going through it in an unbiased manner. Very informative. I have studied kenpo for many years and now studying shotokan and shorin-ryu. I really enjoyed this video.

[@marttivuorinen8475]

Thank you for this video 👍 I just started karate at JKA Tampere in Finland couple months ago after almost 3 decades of brake from martial arts. I have always been interested on history and backgrounds of what ever i do whether it is dogsports, art or my work at building industry. Our sensei and other coaches try to bring these things up here and there but there is limited time for that in classes. Great stuff 💪

[@phillipmoore9012]

I've posted a similar message on your channel before: I guess I'm fine with your mention of only Hwang Kee for Tang Soo Do, as Hwang Kee never promoted the name "Tae Kwon Do", so most of today's "Tang Soo Do" schools are lines from Hwang Kee (Moo Duk Kwan). However, the curriculum of four of the Five Kwans before the Korean War included what today is recognizably Tang Soo Do: Song Moo Kwan, Chung Do Kwan, Moo Duk Kwan, and Ji Do Kwan, all from Funakoshi's (now-called) Shotokan lines. The other four of the Nine Kwans opening at the end of the Korean War were offshoots of the original five; seven of the nine taught what would recognizably be "Tang Soo Do". It was what I'll call the political unification of Taekwondo in Korea that abandoned the karate kata and created new forms.

[@stevebrindle1724]

The role Shotokan played in developing TKD cannot be forgotten and the ITF style still does Shotokan kata. WTF invented new forms purely for political reasons and its understandable as Shotokan was more or less forced on Korea during the pretty brutal Japanese takeover of Korea!

[@phillipmoore9012]

@@stevebrindle1724 Many schools now teaching "Chung Do Kwan Tae Kwon Do" also still teach "Shotokan" kata. Several political breakups eventually led to a ridiculous number of "Grand Masters".

[@charliepickett3924]

I loved this segment...Thank you for the work you put into this excellent educational informative episode!

[@hawkmans5505]

Great video. I appreciate your description of heritage and its influence on so many Martial Arts especially early Tang Soo Do. So many branches came from this tree of Martial Arts its an amazing study to see how interwoven the systems are. Good work I appreciate the video.

[@amalgamie]

I'm a farmer practitioner of shotokan kempo my. I was surprised to see anything at all online about it I'm even more surprised that nothing was said about Whin Charlie being that he is the The last samurai master that anyone in America could have learned from well not anyone but that's another story.I am glad that you made the distinction of the belt ranking between taekwondo and shotokan shotokan kempo has no belts there's only student teacher or instructor and the master unfortunately my teacher and the master are deceased I only know of three other people that actually know true shotokan kempo walking the streets in America.

[@elwalker9034]

I'm visiting a Shotokan dojo next week. Anticipate seeing some of this video in practice. Learned a lot.

[@ArtofOneDojo]

I'd love to hear what your thoughts are!

[@Herowebcomics]

OMG! This stuff is so cool! Also, MMA is based on Kickboxing, and Kickboxing is based on Karate! So it IS used in the ring!

[@phillipmoore9012]

I'm not familiar with Martin's book, but I'll here note that a great historical perspective can be viewed through Wikipedia's Gichin Funakoshi page. There are links to view original 1922 To-te Ryukyu Kenpo, 1925 Karate Jutsu, and 1935 Karate-Do Kyohan. I checked and Tsutomu Ohshima's 1973 English translation of Funakoshi's 1935 Karate-Do Kyohan is still easily available. I still have Ohshima's book and of special interest to me is the comparison of Ohshima's 1973 images with Funakoshi's 1935 images almost four decades earlier. We can even watch Hironori Otsuka's Wado-ryu versions now on KZbin. Otsuka was first-generation black belt/instructor for Gichin Funakoshi. My own Dan certificates were granted by Duk Sung Son, first-generation black belt/instructor for Won Kuk Lee, student of Gichin Funakoshi and his son Gigo, I that's nearly a century of historical interest to me.

[@Philip-fm4pz]

Thank you for presenting this Art of Shotokan to us Family ❤ Allways May we Meet Again o Alpha Omega Yin and Yang

[@DavidLee-no9uc]

Your knowledge about this subject is Very Accurate. Thank you for Re Verifing what I already knew and adding to what I didn't know! .. Oss

[@pallan7733]

Oss! @Art of One. I had watched all the segments of your videos of Shotokan karate and this compilation. I like the even tone in which you have you have presented your findings about this martial art. I rarely watch opinion videos on KZbin because I sometimes perceive a fair amount of extolling the presenter's art/master while diminishing others. When I turn 67 next year, I would have been training in JKA-style Shotokan karate for 50 years. I had been training by myself and a few students for the last 15 years or more. I had eschewed being in a karate dojo/organization because all I want to do is train and not deal with the politics. My kumite has suffered that's for sure but I keep polishing my 26 katas and kihon. Thank you for such an affirming portrait of Shotokan karate.

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Thank you for such a kind comment!

[@stefansandbergsweden]

I really like your channel as well as these history episodes! Please do #1 A series on Shito-ryu and #2 A series on traditional Ryukyu Kobudo and it's relationship to Karate. 🙏

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Thank you so much. We're trying to cover a lot of arts. Shito Ryu would be one we're interested in. The one currently in the works is History of Goju Ryu.

[@KaptainCanuck]

Two notes: traditional Shotokan, and all other Okinawan schools, did not have sparring of any kind. Also, fisticuffs in a ring or anywhere with rules is, I have come to believe, NOT fighting.

[@pallan7733]

Funakoshi discouraged sparring according to some of his students. Gigo, his son, however brought the concepts of free-style kumite from his training in Iaido and Japanese fencing with the katana. Nakayama, in an article, wrote that he would apologize to Funakoshi in heaven for introducing sport karate to the world. It's no coincidence that the earliest tournaments did not happen until after the master's death.

[@hollywxxd177]

This was a great documentary can't wait for the next one 💪💪💪

[@themartialartway]

Thank you for this. I been in Shotokan Karate for a decade.

[@lukecage2642]

OUTSTANDING VIDEO! You took the time to give historical insight into a Martial Art that has helped change and influence the lives of many individuals....thank you for taking the time!

[@mireksoja9063]

Thank you. I am for the first time visiting your channel. Great series; the thumb up and I start to subscribe your channel. :)

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Thank you! I hope you continue to like the videos! We have a lot to choose from :)

[@rasalghul9331]

14:24 - This pic is worth the price of admission! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@ArtofOneDojo]

LOL! I just wish I knew more about it back then.

[@MessianicDiscipling]

What a brilliant video. Great talent here, so well done.

[@skycow3208]

Great vid can’t wait for the next one🥋👏

[@KBox1991]

I said this on another video. Kickboxing is the blend of kicks from Karate Taekwondo Tangsoodo Kemp. With the punching from boxing. Muaythai strikes have come in also throw the K-1 Rules. So infact a lot of guys at the top Bellator and the UFC who have come from Kickboxing DO have karate techniques in their style of fighting

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

I hear Goju ryu will be next on the list to do, I'm glad, I mean Goju ryu is one of the main styles of Okinawa to help create Kyokushin!

[@Philip-fm4pz]

R.i.p. sensei Nene and Diablo 😢

[@frankbruun2572]

Excellent video, inspiring and very educational. Thank you :)

[@chrissayers3766]

Thanks for the video. So nice to see the extent of Shotokan's influence. Would love to see a video about Wado ryu karate if there is ever a chance

[@ivanjuarez7731]

Shotokan is popular in many countries and I’m just waiting to discover it.

[@jamesnewman6032]

Really well done. Thoroughly enjoyed this

[@johnemmons9087]

Nice to hear Kajukenpo mentioned. It’s the very first style I took back in 1968 in Greenville Rhode Island.

[@sliderx1897]

Thanks again Dan, it was my pleasure and honor🙏 hopefully when the crap clears we can do some real training

[@DUARTE99]

Fun channel. Looking forward to season 4.

[@kickingitwiththekerofskys8476]

Awesome Tee! Always enjoy your vids. Have a great new year. Oss. Master K, MA

[@sliderx1897]

🙏 dm me @kombatkarate if youd like one

[@kickingitwiththekerofskys8476]

@@sliderx1897 OK Thanks.

[@lewisb85]

Thing about Machidas though is what they are doing is not really different to many of the old school Shotokan practitioners, Hidetaka Nishiyama (one of my martial arts influences) held a black belt in Judo as well as Shotokan and a lot of the Japanese Karate guys also trained Judo or Jujutsu alongside their Karate style, in Japan this is common. I train Shotokan and BJJ because 1) when i got back into Karate at college the Lyoto was starting to take off in MMA and it triggered my interest and 2) because BJJ has a lot in common with old school judo before leg attacks etc were taken out so I have the attitude of if you're going to put the time in to learn an art learn the full art.

[@sliderx1897]

Nishiyama was my Sensei's, Sensei. I had the pleasure to get to train with him.

[@lewisb85]

@@sliderx1897 He was a big influence on my uncle who was my first Sensi, my uncle met him but sadly he passed before I had the chance to. My uncle ran his club at a sports center and they had a judo club who would run alternate days. Due to the Japanese influence on my training he had me training both. It made me realize in many ways in Japan they just see Karate as one tool in your bag, whilst in the west a lot who do karate have it as the only tool in their bag.

[@sliderx1897]

My sensei and your Uncle most likely know eachother. My Sensei was one of his seniors at the central dojo for many years

[@lewisb85]

@@sliderx1897 Possibly he's one of the UK JKA guys but he did go to the US a fair amount for seminars etc, he retired from teaching a few years back due to a knee injury (former police officer and semi pro rugby league player so injuries caught up eventually).

[@benjaminpujols1914]

that's pretty awesome wow

[@jarredspurlock]

Mr Dan, any plans for an update to the history of Taekwondo video? I also recommend the book A killing Art, by Alex Gillis.

[@ArtofOneDojo]

There is a good chance we'll come back around to it, we're definitely not done. It was the first "History" episode that we did.

[@robertfowler348]

I highly recommend this book Shotokan's Secret by Bruce D.Clayton. It covers the history of Okinawan fighting techniques and the evolution of a fighting style for royal guards under Japanese domination.

[@sammysam808]

Great video!

[@talon2pro]

Great explanation sir!

[@aseuvella6102]

Great job, respect!

[@hammertime5453]

Great history lesson on Shotokan karate! I was wondering if you could do like a history tree of all the styles and teachers that came from gichinfunikoshi, and maybe a roots of the back ground. It would be a great poster!

[@shanedeeprose9035]

I done a mix of shotokon and wad a Ryu I got up to brown but had to stop due to work it was enjoyable especially all the katas

[@jaydee1532]

Oshima SENSEI..... great Grand Master ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@hybridjiujitsu-andrewstola3052]

It would be nice to see videos of lesser known martial styles.

[@ArtofOneDojo]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6bRhmunpraWb5I :)

[@chrishess5526]

This was great. By chance are you doing one of these for Uechi Ryu or any videos for that particular style?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

We haven't yet, but we're hoping to. We have a few more arts we want to cover and then come back to Karate.

[@tonygallagher6989]

In the United Kingdom, the Karate Union of Great Britain (KUGB) was effectively the British arm of the Japan Karate Association. When the chief instructor, Keinosuke Enoeda, passed away, the JKA were clear about who they wanted to replace him. The KUGB didn't agree with their choice and a split occurred. The JKA responded by setting up JKA schools in the UK.

[@duapermata1045]

Good info about karate shotokan... Osh

[@Dojotoriikarate]

The second picture of Itosu, is in did Hanashiro Chomo

[@Viking.voyage]

I just turned 30 and I’m torn between going to a school that teaches Muay Thai and BJJ or a school that teaches Shotokan Karate and Judo. I have experience with Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, and Boxing from a teenager. I really love the history, the way of life, and the beauty that karate has. I personally feel in a street fight that BJJ and Muay Thai might be more effective, however I love the Katas that Karate has to offer and the beauty in their strikes and movements. I also don’t know if 30 is too old to begin learning Karate. My mind says to do Muay Thai and BJJ but my heart and spirit say to do Shotokan Karate and Judo. Any responses on any advice on which route I should pursue I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

[@ArtofOneDojo]

This may seem like a cop out answer but maybe see if you can do a trial of any of them first to get a taste. 30 years old is definitely not too late to start learning. Ultimately, what is your primary goal? Maybe try a mix between the two options. BJJ and Karate? Or Judo and Muay Thai?

[@johncena12366]

Do what you enjoy the most. Doing something you don't like just to be prepared for a small chance of getting into a fight does not make sense to me. If your Shotokan dojo competes (WKF, JKA etc) it is probably effective. Karate's fighting style is different from muay thai and boxing. It focuses on distance control, see Rafael Aghayev or Conor Mcgregor's old fights. Aside from sparring, Karate also has kata, which is an art form itself. After struggling to do kata, watching a good kata performance feels amazing.

[@skycow3208]

Lyoto and chinzo also have a channel

[@belikewater2413]

I’m a Kyokushin guy. My only criticism of Shotokan here in the U.K. is that many organisations don’t spar at all, other than one or three step stuff…

[@johncena12366]

Shotokan dojos who compete are usually more into sparring.

[@sliderx1897]

I like that shirt! 👊😁🥋

[@RyFol717]

Great video. I love the shotokan style in MMA. I want to learn both shotokan and traditional goju/shorin ryu. Any thoughts on learning both?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

There will probably be a lot of overlap but you may want to try one first over the other first, or try each one and see if you take a liking to one over the other.

[@RyFol717]

@@ArtofOneDojo thanks I'm just trying to spend more time learning it than once a week. I like the sporty bouncing nature of shotokan but also the closer range style of goju. Think it will be a good mix. We'll see.

[@johncena12366]

​@@RyFol717If you like the bouncy, in-and-out style karate just find a dojo who competes in WKF. Wado ryu, goju ryu, shito ryu doesn't matter. The kata will be different though, especially goju.

[@hmoniemiller1691]

What style do/did you study also I am a new subscriber and I love it here

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Well welcome to the channel! My background is in American Kenpo, a few varieties of it. I hope you continue to enjoy the videos!

[@1000MOSHT_Fudoshin]

its all great I only wish the audio commentary was a bit more clear and less rushed!

[@kristianOLS]

Just a edit: I think the colored belt system was created by Judo partitioners in France in the early 1900s. Whereas Funakoshi adopted the kyu and dan system developed by Kano Jigoro. Traditional judo dojos in japan still don't use colored belts, just like other tmas like aikido in japan (whereas modern judo dojos in japan do use colored belts) source - me a lover of history, judo 1st dan and personal communication a 4th dan from japan at my dojo

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Kano developed the belt ranking system. The first belt was the black belt. Students had no belt, or a black belt. He got the idea from how Japanese swim teams awarded a black armband to the best swimmers. We did a video on this topic..."how many belt ranks in karate?"

[@kristianOLS]

@@ArtofOneDojo yes I agree, however there's an important change that was developed by the London Budokwai in 1926/1927 for judo where the colored belts non-white black for yudansha and mudansha sources: /u/fleischlaberl on /r/judo in this thread (he's a constant contributor to the judo subreddit) www.reddit.com/r/judo/comments/6ltroi/kyuranks_and_colors/

[@Philip-fm4pz]

May He Bless you Both In The Temple >OF< Monks Everlasting

[@oskarjohansson5757]

I hope you make one on Goju ryu to soon 🙂

[@ArtofOneDojo]

That's the one we're working on currently :)

[@radpantz2472]

Shotokan is the root of my kenpo system. Nick Cerio made the Pinans and katas the pre black belt material.

[@michaelhayden6936]

What is your style of Kenpo sir?

[@bradmays1171]

Can you do a video on Greg Jackson's Gaidojutsu?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Strangely enough I just heard of this one and was starting some early looks at it. Is this the art that Steve Irwin trained in?

[@karatesecretsinzambia61]

Well great news

[@BernardoGonzalez-r4w]

Good afternoon. Does anyone know where Funakoshi's Shotokan dojo was built in 1936 in Mejiro today? Thanks.

[@spartenskillers]

going to start Shotokan in July. Is it as difficult as the Southern Shaolin Kung fu I learned?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

I'm not sure about difficulty but it will be VERY different. The material and teaching methods are different, but the good thing is you'll be adding new knowledge and can figure out how the arts can mix to make yourself a better martial artist :)

[@SteveEvans-o5s]

How dare you discredit funokoshi the man was a genius we all treat him in the highest respect

[@ArtofOneDojo]

How am I discrediting Funakoshi?

[@KaptainCanuck]

Pronunciation was, for the most part, very good. Japanese has only one sound per "letter: A = awe, I=ee, ei = A as in way, E = something similar to "eh", and so on. One note that is erroneous. There is no such word as "gi" as a standalone word for MA uniforms. "-Ki" (it is ki when there is no word added on such as "ki"mono over "gi"mono) means ALL clothing and is not specific. Always add words to it: dogi/keikogi (represents all "martial arts"), karategi, jujitsugi, aikidogi, kimono, etc

[@kieutio9697]

I would like to submit that Kata or forms were designed to be performed like Chinese characters proper from ancient tradition. Pinan are also walked upon the Hung symbol as is the the famous tiger crane form of Hung Gar proper. This concept is also based upon astrology seen with 7 star stepping and the practice of circle walking in Baguazhang. This peculiar phenomenon in Karate may be to honour Shaolin itself hidden within its original framework or too add prestige by reference albeit no relation at all.

[@simonseymour3099]

How about Wado Ryu..?

[@gbody2617]

Do a history of Nakotohs in the future. 😜

[@watchmanofyah0324]

Have u thought about doing a part 2 to this video?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

This video is actually 3 individual videos that were put together. So another one would actually be a part 4. What material would you want covered in another one?

[@watchmanofyah0324]

Hey brother would u consider doing an interview with Andy Allen from applied shotokan. I think ur love what he is doing with the art & how hes evolving the style of shotokan.

[@joesphruggiero3707]

Kool channel

[@jhawk1977]

I had no idea Nick Frost was into Karate.

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Few people do. He's sneaky like that.

[@ToddLorenze]

Even the Villari system of SKK has roots with Shotokan. 1-5 Pinan

[@zohiz3709]

Uechi Ryu?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Eventually! :) We have a lot of arts to hit.

[@richcook2305]

Please sir Defendu

[@ahmedelabassy3881]

I don't like karate shotoken but I play karate shotoken because this karate shotoken found in my country Egypt and not found another syle

[@Doomlord79]

Stay learning Karate OSS

[@crusherjoe8519]

"Evidence of Taekwondo’s Roots in Karate: An Analysis of the Technical Content of Early Taekwondo Literature*," by Udo MOENIG, Sungkyun CHO, and Taek-Yong KWAK, Korea Journal, vol. 54, no. 2 (summer 2014): 150-178: "The taekwondo establishment presents taekwondo as the descendent of ancient Korean martial arts. However, during the last two decades, some scholars have begun to question this presentation, contending instead that taekwondo is the product of Koreans who studied karate in Japan during the Japanese colonial years, and then introduced karate to Korea after coming home. A comprehensive survey of the existing Korean martial arts literature published between 1945 and 1970 strongly supports the argument that early “taekwondo” had in fact been Japanese karate, or more specifically, Funakoshi Gichin’s Shotokan karate. Therefore, the assertion that early taekwondo had its roots in Korean martial arts is difficult to sustain."

[@crusherjoe8519]

"The World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) (2009) portrays taekwondo as having evolved from ancient Korean martial arts. Some scholars oppose this portrayal and have provided evidence that taekwondo actually evolved from Japanese karate (Kim 1990; Capener 1995, 2005; Kang and Lee 1999; Madis 2003; Moenig, Cho, and Song 2012). Despite this evidence, the WTF’s position still garners the most recognition. This article documents taekwondo’s evolution from karate by comprehensively analyzing early taekwondo literature, and comparing it to karate publications from the same period. Twelve Korean martial arts manuals, published between 1949 and 1971, are analyzed in this study.The majority of these manuals describe their martial art, using the terms dangsudo 唐手道, gongsudo 空手道, or gwonbeop 拳法. While the terms dangsudo and gongsudo represent the Korean transliterations of the Japanese term karate-do, 1 the term gwonbeop refers to Chinese-style boxing. Apart from Choi Hong Hi, all authors of the early Korean martial arts manuals used at least one of these terms when referring to their martial art. Right from his very first publication, Choi referred to his martial art as taekwondo, and was the first to coin the name. "Shortly after Korea’s liberation from Japan in 1945, the five original gwan 2 were founded: Cheongdogwan, Songmugwan, Mudeokkwan, Joseon Yeonmugwan, and the YMCA Gwonbeopbu (Gwonbeop Department). Choi Hong Hi’s school, Odogwan, was not established until 1954, where it had its beginnings in the South Korean military. The founders of the five gwan all studied karate, and all but Mudeokkwan’s founder, Hwang Kee, studied in Japan. 3 Yun Byeong-in, the founder of the YMCA Gwonbeopbup was the only founder of the five gwan with proof of having studied another martial art in addition to karate. As Kang and Lee (1999) state, evidence shows that Yun studied Chinese quanfa (gwonbeop in Korean) as a child in Manchuria. Of the other founders, Choi Hong Hi (1965) admitted to having studied karate in Japan, but also claimed to have learned taekkyeon (generally described as a traditional Korean martial art) as a child. Later, Hwang Kee also made a variety of statements about the martial arts that he had allegedly learned in his youth, but these claims remain disputed (Kang and Lee 1999). "1. The characters “唐手” were used to write “karate” until the mid-1930s. However, Funakoshi advocated the use of the characters “空手,” removing reference to China’s Tang dynasty, and thus disassociating karate from China. Both combinations of characters are pronounced the same way in Japanese-“karate”-but have different pronunciations in Korean; hence, the terms dangsu and gongsu both appear in the literature. 2. Gwan 館 literally means “hall,” but in this article refers to a martial arts school or style. 3. For a history of the different gwan, see Kang and Lee (1999), Heo (2008), and Madis (2003, 2011a, 2011b)."

[@crusherjoe8519]

"Choi Hong Hi was the most important figure in taekwondo during the late 1950s and 1960s, though his leading 1965 publication, Taekwondo: The Art of Self-Defence, looks, to a large degree, like a copy of Nishiyama Hidetaka’s earlier 1960 book, Karate: The Art of 'Empty Hand' Fighting. Hwang Kee, in his 1949 and 1958 publications, was the only Korean author to show any differences between Korean martial arts and contemporary karate. For example, he incorporated some of Funakoshi’s very early Okinawan karate techniques into his style. Hwang admitted to having studied karate using books, and some of the stances that he displays resemble stances right out of Funakoshi’s earlier 1925 publication. Hwang showed a great deal of interest in other martial arts, and incorporated a Chinese martial art form in his first publication in 1949, although this was not reflected in his later 1958 book. He might have come into contact with Chinese martial arts when he worked for the railway in Manchuria, or he might have learned the pattern from a student of the YMCA Gwonbeopbu, where some students had a little knowledge of quanfa. However, Hwang ultimately relied on the styles of Japanese karate. Even though several leaders of the early gwan published nothing tangible, some of their accomplished students authored manuals. These publications provide visual and written evidence of the training activities of four of the original five gwan. However, no significant difference from karate is reflected in any of the taekwondo literature presented by these individuals. Each publication contains between two and three hundred pages, often with hundreds of illustrations. Of all the forms presented in these publications, only one is a quanfa form, and only three photographs exist of this particular form. The illustrational and descriptive content of these early books greatly resembles karate. Furthermore, an analysis of the early publications reveals that the main training activity used in the early taekwondo schools was forms training, and that a majority of this training content consisted of Funakoshi’s kata. After a comprehensive consideration of the existing literature, this study concludes that early taekwondo was largely a product of Funakoshi’s Shotokan karate. "The few taekkyeon elements-such as the inside-out-kick-that exist in modern taekwondo are not displayed in any of the early manuals. These elements were likely introduced to the technical body of taekwondo at a much later time. Rather, early taekwondo techniques, curriculum, terminology, dress, and formalities were practically identical to karate. Unique techniques, training methods, and a purpose, distinct from karate, only started to develop with the introduction of full-contact competitions during the 1960s. Taekwondo forms and terminology also changed during this same period, as the establishment increasingly sought to conceal taekwondo’s origins in karate. "This study concludes by suggesting a revised portrayal of taekwondo’s history. Further investigations on the disputed origins of taekwondo will provide an arena for more accurate and historically evidenced research, thereby resulting in a greater understanding of taekwondo."

[@steverodgers4662]

Kempo is different than shotokan.. what r the main differences between the. 2

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Quite a bit actually. They use a lot of the same basic moves (same general punches, kicks, and strikes), but stances are different. Shotokan has deeper and lower stances, good for explosive power in competition and for building leg strength, Kenpo (American Kenpo) has higher stances, more neutral and based off a boxing stance. The rest of Kenpo's stances are usually transitional. Shotokan is powerful generally linear. Kenpo is also powerful, but is split between linear and circular motions. One of the main principles we have is a circle can beat a line and a line can beat a circle. The blocks between the systems are fairly different from each other. Shotokan has a lot of self defense rooted it their katas, and self defense one step and three steps. Kenpo has a lot of academic study and principles in our Katas, and our self defense is taught as a "prechoreographed" sequence of moves called "Self Defense Techniques". These are meant to show us an example of our the basics and principles work together in a "Sample" fight, so we can see it in context and then mix and match as we need them. Shotokan is Okinawan Karate that was modified and culturally changed for Japan, while Kenpo is primarily Chinese in roots but filtered through Japan or Hawaii to come here. There are a lot more differences but that's just some idea of how they differ.

[@steverodgers4662]

@@ArtofOneDojo there is a shotokan dojo by me. Id like to learn another style of martial arts and I want to know if shotokan is good for security guards and self defense

[@ArtofOneDojo]

@@steverodgers4662 The best thing I think you should do it go visit the school and ask if they have a trial or see if you can watch class. Tell them your goals and what you want to learn it for and you should be able to feel if it's going to be a good fit or at least worth trying.

[@steverodgers4662]

@@ArtofOneDojo they offer a trial class yes

[@steverodgers4662]

@@ArtofOneDojo thank u for the feedback and the hammer episode is very spot on

[@bigdaddy2429]

I've done Karate a while and never understood the difference between these styles, could anyone help a brother out?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

What style did you study? Sometimes it can be difficult to tell them apart if you haven't compared them.

[@bigdaddy2429]

@@ArtofOneDojo i've done Shotokan and goju-ryu ... thanks for the reply by the way

[@johncoffey9229]

Marsharu Martial Arts in jasper Texas. Shotokan

[@timbutton4990]

I wonder if you have heard of GKR Karate? I believe that it originated in Australia. Also what is your opinion on schools handing out certificates for insignificant milestones along the way?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

I have heard of GKR but I don't have any personal experience with them. As for as certificates...I don't think there is any harm in a certificate, generally they are meant to inspire and keep people motivated. Giving rank for small milestones is a different story though.

[@rafaelbrunomachadodeazeved6163]

Cadê o volume. Sacanagem. Não tem áudio. Aí fica difícil. Ainda mais karat

[@214warzone]

Cobra Kai Season 3 what kind of (Karate)?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

They answered this :D

[@sliderx1897]

@@ArtofOneDojo in seas3 they finally said tang soo do!

[@VikingMale]

Tang soo do for Corbra Ki, though Miyagi Do is pseudo Goju Ryu

[@barrettokarate]

Cobra Kai was Tang Soo Do. Or rather a very stripped down militarized version, hence the reason we've never seen them ever do kata or likely will.

[@patrickpittorino7032]

Miyagi do is nothing like real Goju

[@JT_iiii]

3:00 11:31

[@walteranderson5090]

At 27:02. I disagree. Sometimes it will or is necessary to strike first.

[@Philip-fm4pz]

Versatility❤ 😊😂😅

[@raymondborrero9184]

Do one on teakwondo

[@gravitronrutherford1631]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@The-Travel-Man]

The differences between Shotokan and most Okinawan styles are stark, and there are many. One example is there are virtually no high kicks above the waist line in Okinawan systems, as they impractical and are easily exploited. Other notable difference is there are very few, if any joint locks/tears techniques, no ippon ken strikes in Shotokan. That being said, I still view classic Shotokan as a hard striking art. Thank you for a great video!

[@VikingMale]

With heavy influence from French Savate

[@MinamiBushi]

​@@VikingMale @RUmedic That's a false, out-of-nowhere, statement recently made by Jesse. There's LITERALLY no source that supports that Gigo loved savate (trust me, I researched EVERY source I could find about Funakoshi Gigo. There's none). I say it's false because, as I said, there's no source at all about this. Could be? yes. The same way I could say the influence actually comes from chinese and korean system with high kicks, wich would make quite more sense, but there is no source to that either so it would also be false. It's also kind of false the statement about 'no kicks above the hip/high kicks in okinawan karate'. Gichin himself, on his first edition of Karate-do Kyōhan (guide and reference book of Funakoshi's karate previous to Gigo's modifications) states that maegeri (kebanashi geri, as he calls it on the book) can be aimed to the chest, wich is quite high. Not only that, he also talks about mikazukigeri, wich is usually aimed to an elbow of an arm you are holding, quite high also. Finally, he talks about tobigeri, jump kicks. I'm not even going to stop to talk about the extense chapter on Karate-do Kyōhan about nagewaza and osaewaza, along with the chapter on the hand striking points, wich includes ippon and nakadakaken, wich is still used in many Shōtōkan-ryū dōjō (traditional, not sport, we must remember) and specially in Shōtōkan-ryū Kase-ha. Sometimes we need to remember that Funakoshi Gichin was still a practitioner of Okinawan karate and that it was his son, Gigo, who made changes, so any source from Gichin himself is still Okinawan karate. Also, we tend to consider Shōtōkan-ryū as sport karate (sometimes, again, because of Jesse constant comentarios about 'japanese karate was made for sportz and okinawan karate is for da streetz'.

[@VikingMale]

@@MinamiBushi thank you.

[@TrentMantis]

The high kick is part of both Okinawan karate and the White Crane that influenced it kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGeTfZSomqh1oNk. The White Crane Kiai should sound familiar to karate practioners as well as the high kick that comes with it.

[@The-Travel-Man]

@@TrentMantis Please point out at least one kata in Goju, Uechi or Shorin, Shito or any one Okinawan style that prominently displays a high kick. A White Crane system in China may have such kicks and related applications, but that would depend on the style. Not all Okinawan styles dervive heavily from White Crane. Goju-ryu is certainly not, it is a very grounded style with tight close chambering, or "Muchimi". Uechi has some but is mostly Dragon style and not crane. Shorin is the closest but I don't see any high kicks in Shorin either.

[@Roclib48]

🙏