History of the Jeep Cherokee - FULL and COMPLETE - Part II

[@Mr.EricMBlack]

Nothing can replace an XJ. Only another XJ.

[@jeepgodxj]

Love the videos. I plug my phone into the heavy equipment at work and listen and operate at the same time. Personally, the XJ has a special place in my heart. Both my kids came home from the hospital after birth in XJ’s. One of which was conceived in one. 😆

[@DEInTheGarage]

BAHAHAH... now THAT is a true Jeep family! Thanks for watching our stuff! Glad you enjoy it!

[@nathanwood3679]

Love my original XJ and would never change it.

[@Jack-tx2ve]

The xj was a fantastic vehicle. I think the styling was spot on especially the pre facelift models.

[@danielgriffith3633]

Have owned cj, 92 xj, 94 wrangler (still have) and now the '19 Trailhawk, bought it after watching it hang w a Rubicon at moab..

[@onefastcyclist]

Perhaps we should consider the JKU and JLU as the spiritual successor to the XJ. After all, a 4 door Wrangler wasn't available when they built the XJ and if you wanted a 4 door off-road jeep the XJ was the only option.

[@DEInTheGarage]

That isnt crazy.. I could see that

[@jackbower8671]

I technically do

[@jonc2914]

I see an xj as a 4 door wrangler the same way I look at a modern 4 door wrangler as a modern XJ

[@jakeschumacher5683]

My first experience with Jeep as a whole was the liberty, my mom had one when I was growing up, it was a great car, you hit it right on the head when you said it isn’t made to be a Cherokee of the old days. It’s meant for moms to haul her kids to schools and it’s amazing for that. In another video (I think it was the Jeep wave video) you explained that People buy jeeps because they’re the most capable vehicles in their class, and they are. That thing was a beast in the snow and my mom loved it. Then she screwed up and bought a Pacifica...( she actually loved it) fast forward to me getting my first car and I bought a beater of a PT cruiser. I loved that car but it was a piece of junk. Then I bought my XJ Cherokee I have now and I love it, i put a 3 inch rustys advanced lift on it and the thing is absolutely awesome. A few months after I got that, my aunt bought a used KL Cherokee, and that is probably one of the nicest jeeps on the interior I have ever been in. It’s also awesome in the Wisconsin winters and it’s absolutely perfect for her. Everyone hates on the new cherokees but they do their job awesomely, they are reliable and capable. You can’t go wrong with buying a Cherokee regardless on which one you get.

[@danielrigg9715]

I'd love to see a video like this about the Grand Cherokee

[@DEInTheGarage]

It is definitely coming! Stay tuned!

[@onefastcyclist]

I drove a new Cherokee Trail-hawk. Then I went home and commissioned a build on a '99 XJ!

[@Mr.EricMBlack]

Did that last year with a 2001 XJ. So happy I spent the money wisely.

[@DEInTheGarage]

BAHAHA... You guys are the real heroes

[@christopherboots4412]

I don't comment on KZbin, but I have watched 4 of your History of Jeep Videos. Thank You, and I Subscribed. Keep them Coming.

[@GearheadsGarage336]

I'm in love with the early 90"s XJ's! My uncle is the guy who got me into them granted i'eve always been a fan, but he collects SJ's! He has a 78'' Cherokee chief he has all done up for off roading and light rock crawling, rocking them Dana 44s by God! He's got another 77" Cherokee Chief Wagoneer he has fully restored. And he not too long go aquired a 70" Cherokee Chief that he's currently working on, cant wait to see what he does!

[@JustJeep_It]

So here is My jeep resume: 1988 J10 pick up, 1991 YJ, 1998 XJ, 2000 WJ, and most recently 1999 XJ. My favorites are my J 10 pick up and my current 99XJ. But honestly I love all of my Jeeps.

[@DEInTheGarage]

That is a hell of a resume!

[@JustJeep_It]

D&E In The Garage I just realized I had a typo in the year of the J10 pick up. It’s a 1980. That thing was a beast. Keep up the great work on the videos. I really enjoy them

[@Cherokee-sz7xi]

Gotta love that old iron!

[@DEInTheGarage]

yeeeeea buddy!

[@andysaunders3708]

Once again, thanks for the effort you've obviously put into this.

[@DEInTheGarage]

It is a labor of love. History and Jeeps are my jam. Thank you for watching

[@russellhamm7891]

Good work. I gave you grief about your Dodge Grand Cherokee video about some questionable details on the Cherokee/Wagoneer history but you clearly made up for it on this two part series!!

[@DEInTheGarage]

Thanks! I am glad to have redeemed myself to some extent

[@russelldesabre9530]

I've owned 3 xj's...86 with 2.8 v6 died at 200,000(engine)...94 with 4.0 I6 died at 350,000(body rotted away)...00 with 4.0 I6 currently still driving at 240,000..... also currently have 02 liberty 3.7 v6 with 120,000(wife's truck)

[@SkateFoss]

Owner here of a 2dr 89 Sport and 4dr 2000 UpCountry Sport, and like you, I’ll never get rid of my XJ Cherokees.

[@TheJohnnyairgun]

I got a yj a tj and a xj. The xj made itself my daily just by sheer comfort. It just feels right for my commute.

[@dresdenoberst]

I own a 2017 Cherokee Trailhawk. This is an extremely capable off road vehicle.

[@jtmoffroad]

Love listening to these while I’m at work. Nice break from listening to music and I learn a lot

[@DEInTheGarage]

Thanks buddy! I am working on a series for the Wrangler, but it is difficult as I do not have as much prior knowledge for the Wranglers as I do for the Cherokees

[@jtmoffroad]

D&E In The Garage I’m sure you’ll do just fine!

[@ESTEBAN4WD]

when I was growing up my mom had an 87 XJ pioneer, that thing was a beast specially in heavy snow, then she replace it with a 99 XJ sport which she still drives to this day with almost 300k miles in it. then the first car I bought was a 00 XJ Classic, I put a 3'' inch lift and 31'' tires and many more mods that made it my own, sadly two moths ago I made the decision to get rid of it because had no space for it where I live and was paying a storage park to just drive it during the weekends, I end it up donating it to the Breast Cancer Foundation. I had my Wrangler for 5yrs now but for some reason I cannot love it as much as I did the XJ. I miss my XJ and watching these videos don't think it help much lol, but love the content.

[@douglascrow6940]

I bought my first Jeep in 2016 after getting stuck in a snow bank with a two wheel drive pickup truck. I had snow piled up in the bed for weight, and thought I'd never get stuck, but there I was and had to get pulled out by a guy with four wheel drive. I bought a KK Liberty and love it. I drive right through the snow banks now with no lift and with street tires. I have pulled my friend out of the snow--twice. I like my KK so much that I bought an XJ, and I'm finishing a lift. I still have to set the pinion angle, and I'll have something to take off road and not worry about scratching the paint. The XJ, properly modified, will climb the same tree as a Wrangler. So I believe that is why Chrysler, with direction from the evil Wolfgang, eliminated the two solid axles. They want us to buy Wranglers if we intend to go offroad.

[@garyhowell738]

I have to go with the XJ, I currently own a 2000 XJ (stock for the time being). I just recently came across your channel and it's already a personal favorite. Keep up the awesome work. My other favorite is Bleepin Jeep

[@DEInTheGarage]

If you like XJs, you can;t get better than old BleepinJeep videos! He inspired me to start this channel

[@redoz9768]

Thanks for including the Liberty in this history, I'm in Australia and we only know the KJ and KK as a Cherokee.

[@micaelaiphys]

I own a KJ and really enjoy it. Not crawling, but overlanding and light off-roading. Definitely agree that cargo space is lacking but I owned a TJ a decade ago, so......

[@buddy8225]

I Like the Cherokees. I still would like a first gen Cherokee with in line six. I wouldn't mind having a Liberty with the diesel. They should have kept the Cherokee/Liberty and put the 3.6 pentastar V6 from the Wrangler in it. Thats what I would have done.

[@jamesandrews7441]

I've had 2005 kj renegade. It was actually pretty fun to drive. Quite capable. Only reason I got rid of it was for towing purposes. It was rated for 5k. But even with our 3k# ski boat it felt unsafe driving on the highway. Other than that it was a nice ride. I liked the raised flatter hood better than short humped hood. Looked more jeepish. Great video on the Cherokee name too

[@billyboone8934]

I enjoyed watching your cherokee history video. I own a 1999 XJ limited that I love. It's all original and in great shape. I also own a 2021 cherokee and actually down sized from a 2014 Grand cherokee. I enjoy the luxury and modern conveniences and even the looks and ride, but it is certainly not the JEEP that the XJ is. Thanks for the lesson!

[@flazada]

I'm about to buy my 3rd jeep this weekend. My first was a 1988 classic (baby blue, grey tweed interior rusty as hell) 04 Liberty and ran like a top till it was lost in a divorce. Now I'm getting my new baby 2017 75th anniversary army green beauty. I'm so excited.

[@jake-mv5oi]

What made the XJ great was the solid drivetrain without all the bells and whistles. 4.0, AX-15/AW4, 231, D30/8.25. We've all seen the budget builds. Throw in some 33-35" tires, a lift, a couple lunchbox lockers, and maybe some chromos for insurance and you will make JKU's look bad all day, and for cheap. I think if they were to build a full body vehicle with XJ/SJ styling, 3.6 base/V8 option, solid axles so it can be lifted easily, a decent tranny(with a manual option), and a proper 4wd t-case, people would buy it. Add bigger axles and electric lockers to the higher trim levels. All the EPA regulations probably prevent it though :( I agree with you about the nostalgia factor in marketing, and they should use those styling cues more. They need to be able to back it up with the capability of their predecessors though. I feel like Jeep gave up on the full body guys and is only focusing on the Wrangler models as far as offroad enthusiasts go (like you mentioned after the WJ).

[@LSDdreams808]

I got a 2017 jeep trail hawk i needed something different than my chevy so far i love it.

[@deanherde805]

Hi from Brisbane Australia. Subscribed. Your stuff is really interesting mate. Great information.

[@delutedrepublic7759]

Chrysler should get ideas from old Landrover defender and keep it simple easy to fix and models without power windows etc..

[@Ace88Sama]

The XJ is my favorite Cherokee. And one of my favorite vehicles. I wanted a TJ but those are EXPENSIVE. And fell in love with the XJ when that’s all I could afford. The XJ is my 2nd favorite JEEP behind the TJ. And the XK is fight behind it.

[@colvillegriffith1754]

Absolutely love your videos man... been looking for the right xj for years and finally found my turquoise 5 speed steel wheel stocker and fell in love. These were very informative and entertaining! Thank you! Being into earlier stuff most the time I would love to find an sj as well. My ‘96 xj though is one awesome gal.

[@DEInTheGarage]

I love that color! Sounds like an awesome Jeep!

[@4WDriver]

Doug, awesome work on this 2 part history! Really appreciate the effort put in. I agree with a lot of what you say most times, but I draw the line at the wussification of the Jeep brand. I get it that the newer cute-utes sell more broadly in the market, but if Jeep weren't making so many different models (Compass, Renegade, Patriot, KL "Cherokee", Liberty, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler), they wouldn't NEED to make as many sales to cover the lower costs of making fewer models. The problem is they are focused making the Jeep brand perform, sales wise, like any other brand. Instead of seeing the Jeep brand as a nice little bonus to the company's portfolio, they want it to perform like the big-boys. This attitude is what's KILLING the Jeep brand. Jeep was never meant to be a brand for the masses. It was a brand that catered to the truly adventurous and those who NEEDED a capable off roader. Now the only truly capable off roader they make is the Wrangler. The WK II Grand Cherokee is close, but it NEEDS locking diffs to get where the WJ would go without them, and I'm not sure it can handle as much off road abuse either. So, unless people want a Wrangler (I don't, they don't look good, interior not anywhere near as nice as even a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee, and the aerodynamics are terrible and make for loads of wind noise, and to top it off, now they are actually every bit as expensive as a Grand Cherokee!) they are now going to buy something like a Toyota 4-Runner. So, I ask you sir: 'Tis better the Jeep brand live on, a ghost of its former self, or to have died a legend, if it even came to that? Even if the Jeep brand had died, the aftermarket will continue to make parts for decades. The manufacturers and dealers are only obligated for 10 years post production. Jeep needs to go back to their roots. Wrangler, Cheokee (the REAL one), and Grand Cherokee (Again, a REAL one). You totally CAN make these types of vehicles in today's world, complying with safety and fuel economy standards. Modern power train technology makes it quite possible. Forget "Make America Great Again", and make Jeep great again! Then the awesome Jeeps will make America great all by themselves! LoL

[@americancarguy]

You do realize that "fake" cherokee got its Trailhawk badge running the Rubicon trail unassisted. And that a solid amount of Xjs where sold in just RWD, so jeep has always made bread and butter of the majority of consumers who are not taking their jeeps off road or hardcore off road, and want the image, or all weather capability and light off roading ability.

[@MikeKunene059]

Bro thanks for the vidoe...I love the Jeep Cherokee CRD LIMITED 2.8

[@keithlea6804]

I still don't understand the jeep liberty = Cherokee thing . Never cared for the liberty jeep line up. I wish they would have brought the xj style back with a steal frame/no unibody. Twenty years later the xj style is more popular than ever.

[@DEInTheGarage]

It is just how they named them. If you lived in Europe and both a 2002 "Liberty" it is going to say "Cherokee" on the vehicle and all its papaerwork. I agree that the XJ is more popular than ever!

[@RangerPete1994]

Great work Brother... Very informative... The only new Jeep I would buy is a Grand Cherokee. All the other new Jeeps except for the Wrangler are just plain ugly, or is junk. As for my favorite Cherokee, I would have to say it would be the Cherokee Chief. A cool looking beast..

[@ProjectDanH]

Nicely wrapped up. Lol. I'm not loving the "new Cherokee" either but your right... I can't afford one either so they make em for people who can. 600 credit score 🤣🤣That's why am an XJ guy! Lmao . I've had an 88,93,98,01 and 00 XJ . Lol

[@DEInTheGarage]

Dan wins for best XJ resume... Were all your with the 4.0?

[@ProjectDanH]

@@DEInTheGarage yep 4.0

[@americancarguy]

I have a 2019 Trailhawk elite, It comes from the factory with a 1.5 inch lift over the standard cherokee, it comes with full skid plates and optional (which I got) rock rails, and it is the only Jeep outside of the Wrangler with an actual locking rear differential right out of the factory. If you go to a dealer they will talk all this up. It it also has a true two speed transfer case. It is actually very capable. I have actually watched comparison videos of a stock Trailhawk KL against a stock (off road package XJ I now forgetting what you said the name of the package was) and it out did the factory XJ where the XJ would have to back up and pick a different line or make a difference go at the obstacle the KL would just pick its way over it. think though that part of the reason the first thing they talk out is exclusive colors (which are two Firecracker Red and Hydroblue the latter of which I got) is that everyone know what Jeep stands for and what they Trailhawk badge stands for, (the most off road worthy trim line) and across the jeep line up many people will buy the harder core off road packages even in the Wrangler that are not actually going to take it off road, and are thus more concerned about how it looks out of the box. I mean to be honest I get people that are looking for a capable off roader that is a nice daily driver that ask me about my cherokee (and I can say that honestly many of the Wrangler owners in my jeep clubs have been impressed with the out of the box specs for the Trailhawk and just how well it keeps up with their wranglers) but I also get plenty of people that just like the way that it looks, they want a Jeep and want the Trailhawk because of how it looks because like about 90% of SUV owners the most "off roading" they plan to do is a snowy parking lot or a gravel driveway. I think that if many of the hatters of the KL would watch the many KZbin videos of them actually being put through their paces they would change their toon that it is not a "real" Jeep I mean ill loop back to other then the Wrangler the Cherokee is the only Jeep to get an acaull locking diff in it. Jeep put a lot of time and effort into making it offroad worthy, of course nothing out of the factory is going to be as good as an XJ that someone has spent thousands of dollars and many hours of labor modify from its original form into a hardcoor offroader. But from factory I would say that it dose deserve the Cherokee name. and if you look at tow rating the 3.2 V6 with tow package is only 500lbs off of the rating for the 4.0 XJ So even when it comes to towing it is with in spitting distance of the XJ, and today is the best tow rating in it's class of small SUV. Just my two cents. I am not one that thinks the KL is going to be customizable as the old XJ but then again no modern vehicle is as customizable in the since as anything made 20-30 years ago, just because of how much more complicated the engineering is and how everything these days is controlled by computers so you can't go and change things up without then needing to try to reprogram how all the computers in the vehicle perform. This is true of almost any new car though. But I think that also to many people these days don't understand how loosely sharing a platform means. These days it means just sharing some very basic dimensions with another vehicle. mater of fact the cherokee platform is technically the same platform that underpins from the Renegade to the chrysler pacifica. (so renegade, 500x, compus, dart, Alfa Stelvio, alfa Gulite< chrysler 200, and Chrysler Pacifica IE FCA's CUSW Compact US Wide) they all share the and I think every one would

[@DEInTheGarage]

Wow, that is a lot, but thank you for sharing!

[@sanymann]

They really should have taken some hints from the aftermarket when it comes to the XJ Cherokee. They should have built it as a Body On Frame similar to the TJ.

[@DEInTheGarage]

Agreed!

[@gcanaday1]

Full frame. Solid axles. Lockers. Lever-shifted tcase. Bullet proof engine. All the rest is styling...!

[@DEInTheGarage]

Couldnt agree more!

[@gcanaday1]

@@DEInTheGarage If I had 100 million I might be persuaded to make a small car company.

[@Off-gridCherokee]

Awesome vids man. Really enjoyed them. I have a huge xj addiction. Im not to much of a jeep fan, im a xj enthusiast i guess i would say. I love jeeps history, just not a fan of some of the people in jeeps today.

[@brendanjames7122]

I'd love to have a Golden Eagle SJ or Cherokee Chief. There were a few of both running around town when I was a kid. The diesel bit, most people in the US only have experience with them in trucks. It's like everyone thinks nothing but heavy duty when they think diesel. In Europe, and the rest of the world for all that matters, diesels are more prevalent because they get better fuel mileage so they put little diesels in everything. We aren't as concerned with how much gas we burn as compared to them. I wouldn't mind having a diesel in our WJ, I kinda like them. Getting 17-18 mpg in my 1T Chevy with 4:56 gears. Top speed of 55 mph sucks but I deal with it. The 04' Overland with a diesel would be sweet!

[@SuperBobby1974]

Brendan James, Diesel engines all over Europe are not so populair anymore. It’s because old diesel engines are not allowed in large cities. Too much CO2 output despite the fuel milage.

[@HaloscornX]

My second car was a 2003 jeep liberty sport with the 3.7L engine and automatic transmission. It currently has 257,856miles on it and still runs great. I got it after my first car that I drove for 2 weeks had a power steering pump problem. The pressure hose went into the steering column but end was stripped and I couldn't get it out. I originally didn't really like the jeep but now it has really grown in me. Also what is so bad about the 3.7L engine?

[@brandonbouchez7195]

I really can't bring myself to respect Cherokees after the xj.. but anyways the XJ is my favorite wish I had time or money cause it would be a fun project

[@DEInTheGarage]

I know many folks feel the same way. It is hard to enjoy anything else with that name considering how good the XJ was

[@kingkiller3678]

I feel u brother feels like we are never going to get a xj

[@josephelliott7866]

I definitely love the XJ I own a 96 XJ

[@ukjeeper]

Clicked on part 2, but tuned out as it moved on from the SJ/XJ, which are the only real Cherokee's. (even though we owned a KJ for several years, before trading it in for Fiat Renegade).

[@theappalachianamerican2074]

Grrrrr, lol. I got a kk with cold air, a stage 4 tuner, dual batteries,285/75/16 Patagonia’s and a 4 inch lift and i love it. But it was originally my wife’s until she totaled it and i made a buggy out of it. If it wasnt under those circumstances i probably wouldve never went to the extremes i did with it.

[@JoseGarcia-cb5dz]

Xj all the way got 3 1991 a 1995 right hand drive and a 2000 all 4x4 love them my 91 is lifted with snorkel and 33” tires may 95 RHD is lifted with 31” tires and my 2000 is bone stock I love the xjs

[@DEInTheGarage]

Heck yea! Sounds like an awesome Jeep! Love me some XJs

[@sebastianmundell1655]

The KK Liberty body style doesn't look half bad

[@TalalAlSa3ad]

Hi, I'm looking to buy XJ here in Bahrain middle East. What model year and trim I should consider only ?

[@DEInTheGarage]

Anything after 1997 will have the upgraded features. The "classic" trim has always been a favorite of mine

[@TalalAlSa3ad]

@@DEInTheGarage alright man I appreciate it and keep it up!

[@hayzersolar]

I was just given a 95 xj. The engine transmission the transfer case front and rear diff are an awesome condition runs great . The major issue with this it has so much rust that both of the unibody frame rails under both of the front seats are literally rotted in half. There were leaf spring brackets that are under the back seat are no longer attached to the body. I've had several people tell me to scrap it pull the drivetrain. After watching a lot of your videos on your junkyard walks I realized I cannot put him in the junkyard. So I'm going to rebuild the unibody and I'm going to start a channel second channel on my process of restoring this beloved XJ that everybody will leave for dead. His name is hayzer and he will live again. It's drivable just at the rear wheels are up in the fender well. Thank you for all your videos that you do especially your junkyard walks it's got me excited and I have a few yards in my town that I could go and visit. So I think I'm going to start doing some of my videos of my junkyard walks myself inspired by you. I have no welding experience no body experience I am a shade tree mechanic working on my own stuff but when it comes to body work in welding I have never done it. I will be using a Chicago electric 90 amp welder because it's free and I have access to it. I am hopefully going to bring this XJ back to life and give it a proper existence like it deserves

[@corycook1231]

I own a 93 xj special edition. I have never seen or found that package option as I look things up. Anyone have any info on that package option?

[@DEInTheGarage]

Interesting.. I know they started the Country in 1993. Maybe the first few just got "special edition" badging instead of "country"?

[@jasonhaner2319]

I have à 2002 liberty...it hangs with the wranglers and gladiators

[@matthewpalsgrove2090]

i like this guy... yep...

[@DEInTheGarage]

Why thanks you! You must like Jeeps...

[@robertbrodarick9607]

Podcast or episode of visit to Jeep headquarters instead of just junkyards? #showpitch

[@DEInTheGarage]

I am not sure they would let us in Jeep HQ...

[@squatchfromearth4076]

I own a KA otherwise known as the uglier Jeep liberty hahaha. I enjoy your content man.

[@jeepinbanditrider]

One difference between KK Liberty and Nitro was the Nitro only had a single speed transfercase. 4Hi only no low range. KK Liberty at least got a low range :) I think the ONLY rear axle available in the KJ Liberties was the 8.25. But I could be and probably am wrong wouldn't be the first or last time. I think a loaded limited model Liberty would be great to build a small family "overlanding" type rig out of, especially with the CRD. Plenty capable for that kind of duty and comfortable. You can find in good shape Limiteds around here for about the same price as a decent XJ. XJ prices are getting a little crazy. FCA really botched the job on the newer Grand Cherokee diesels. Those things seem to explode totally at random. I had a buddy with the CRD Liberty and he loved it. Got great fuel mileage out of it and it was actually quite peppy. I dont' remeber hearinga lot of horror stories about them.

[@DEInTheGarage]

They explode?? I didnt know that!

[@jeepinbanditrider]

Ive came across some threads on Jeep Forum where people have had engine replacements under warranty. I guess they have a tendency to throw rods 🤷‍♂️

[@DEInTheGarage]

@@jeepinbanditrider Yikes! I had not idea..

[@wilvink5284]

I have a KK Liberty 2011 that i am in the process of setting up for overlanding. So far so good :-)

[@machintelligence]

The usual response to the "we must have independent front suspension" is: OK, now let's add a big honking sway bar so that it isn't hardly independent at all. What's the point?

[@DEInTheGarage]

right???

[@machintelligence]

@@DEInTheGarage I'm not certain about Jeeps, but our '99 Ford Explorer had a 1 1/8 inch diameter sway bar. Imagine the torque to twist that thing.

[@tommyhill992]

What so do the jeep kj have a Chrysler in the rear even in australia? Cant find info on the net does anyone know?

[@justmike2944]

How do you do a history of the cherokee and not bring up the MJ Comanche . Still a cool vid . Thank you

[@dtshifter]

When the KJ first came out I didn't like the way they looked and I assumed they were inferior. Last Summer my daughter bought a used 2004 Rocky Mountain edition and since working on it and driving it I now respect it. Dare I say when the supply of used XJs and WJs starts to run low, Jeepers that want something other than a Wrangler are going to have bidding wars on rust free old KJs that they will mod out. One day good Jeeps built before 2007 will be like classic muscle cars and only trade for stupidly high dollars.

[@firawan6275]

It is always be a Cherokee XJ...

[@80fordmustang6]

Chapter 2 the dark ages

[@DEInTheGarage]

LOL. Valid...

[@EvangelosPapaioannou]

kl also has much smaller cargo space than kj or kk

[@sidstevens9035]

You forgot the ZG made in Austria

[@sheehy933]

Jeep, like every other car company tries to cater to what the mass(not just diehard Jeep fans) consumer market says it wants. What are those things you ask ?.........heated seats, big screen navigation/radio/information screens, rear entertainment, "exclusive colors schemes", blah, blah, blah. if they began marketing mechanical options the vast majority of buyers eyes would glaze over and ask......."but does it have an infotainment system ?"

[@jimcarlson6157]

my fave is the BJ

[@matthewpalsgrove2090]

this does way deeper than this. your video was AWESOME... i really learned a ton. i'm not against jeep. only partially. but mostly the people who buy them. what you buy reflects who you are and what you do to it .... i have issues with the jeep culture split between hilljack teens who tear these things up.... and pansies who can't wrench. mostly why i am a lone jeeper. done with the culture of fucking idiots and yuppies.

[@wildbill23c]

People don't buy the diesel versions in the US because of the ridiculous price and they're not reliable and fuel economy isn't that great in them due all the emissions crap they have on them. I have seen a couple of them, and a couple of Grand Cherokee diesels, all of which were in pick a part yards if that tells you anything about why people don't buy them...and they weren't in there due to being wrecked.

[@andrewcheatle4691]

Diesel was a VM Motori, made of spaghetti, more or less. Earlier versions ( fitted to XJ's and other vehicles including Range Rover ) were a P.O.S - inherant fatal design flaws abound. Later versions as fitted to Liberty were better, but not much

[@metaldemon60]

I made the mistake of buying a 2012 JK, and wish I never did. The electronics are the worst. It is isn't funny. This will be the last new Jeep I ever buy. Just bought a 1999 XJ from South Carolina. Much better vehicle, plus a lot cheaper.

[@jonc2914]

I buy old jeeps cause its better. I'm not gunna buy a new jeep if its garbage just to help save the brand. To hell with the brand if the executives don't want to listen to what we want...

[@simongarraway6863]

Zj?

[@jjengel5394]

That what the first grand cherokees are called.

[@simongarraway6863]

@@jjengel5394 thanks.

[@DEInTheGarage]

We are planning a video for the Grand Cherokees as well

[@buddy8225]

I was told that the JK Wrangler replaced the XJ. The XJ was the beginning of the transition from unibody rear wheel/4wd traditional Jeep to the modern KL with front/AWD unibody. To me in reality the Grand Cherokee is the modern version of what the XJ could have evolved into.

[@toledojeeper2932]

The Liberty replaced the XJ ..JK didn't come out until 2007 .

[@CHMernerner]

Once had KJ 'Cherokee' 2005 2.8 CRD Rennie(one with flat hood) it was perfect looking Super cute 4x4. And weirdly, on KJ's Case... CRDI won in long term reliability vs N/A Petrol.... 3.7 V6 was that bad. reliable V8 4.7 had same name! powertech! but it was only the name 😢 For KL and 'new renegade'... Why Non-Trailhawk models cannot perform almost any of off-roading??? dang jeep. you fuqed up. you really fuqed up.... Jeeps meant to be can go-Off road vehicles. and Jeep's Offroad trim Means 'More Offroad Worty model', Factory Mod series.... I cannot see those "Non-Offroad model's cannot go anywhere...." stuff... just plain why. chainging approach angle is not that difficult as far as i know.... i feel sad when i see 'Street Model' of RL or KL'

[@spencermunson6044]

The Liberty and KL are both dog shit. Jeep needs to stop using the Pentastar V6 it’s a shitty minivan engine. The last good jeeps were the XJ and TJ bottom line. only good thing that stems from the modern shitty Jeeps is it makes old ones more valuable😂👌🏻

[@DEInTheGarage]

LOL... valid!