History of The Palmyrene Empire

[@kaloarepo288]

Pity "Isis" damaged a lot of the spectacular ruins of Palmyra a few years back.

[@jansandman6983]

one thing u missed is that Zenobia and her Son has more legitimate claim to Rome than Aurelian, great as he may be. And she didn't starved Rome, infact Palmyrine was still technically part of Rome and that war was in truth a civil war and not a rebellion.

[@sdcrocks]

Any legitimate claim in Rome needed to be backed up by force, your argument is invalid because they lost, get over it.

[@jansandman6983]

@@sdcrocks I was just stating facts. yes they lost and so did many before her who lost to somebody after a bloody civil war. you need not cry about it though. you should instead be thankful " I " educated the likes of you so you don't remain ignorant. 🤣

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

@@jansandman6983 in what way did they have a better claim she cut grain shipments to rome which would starve the city and it was open rebellion considering she treated herself as a monarch than a subject

[@jansandman6983]

@@durrangodsgrief6503 Her son was the legitimate ruler of Rome, which was usurped by our protagonist. and she just happens to be the queen regent for her son. So standing up against what our children are supposed to have isn't a bad thing; in fact, it's a natural parental action to protect the interests and future of our children, and that's exactly what she did. Aurelian, too, just protected his own interests and the interests of Rome in general. I don't portray him as the antagonist of the conflict. But my point is that historians should call the war what it was. It was a civil war and not a rebellion, for it was a conflict between rival monarchs.

[@geesixnine]

Romans of the Sand

[@krimzonstriker7534]

And then came Aurelian 😉

[@Seth9809]

I tried so hard to memorize that song.

[@philRminiatures]

Informative and very nicely done as always...Big like!

[@gabeshaw3721]

Stop saying palmyrenian. Palmyrene is the adjective, as the Empire was based at palmyra.

[@muhammadedwards8425]

That bothered me too

[@samwill7259]

Zenobia's husband could have done most of this at any time and just...didn't I dunno why, we probably won't ever fully know for sure, it's just weird.

[@seanhastings4432]

He was loyal. She wasn’t.

[@Giooseb]

@@seanhastings4432 i might sound mysogynist but damn they've been unloyal since antiquity

[@velstadtvonausterlitz2338]

Loyalty and common sense. Rebelling against rome and becoming their own empire will leave his kingdom sandwiched between two powers. He knows that once he rebelled he will face invasion in two direction and will lose his kingdom in the process. He chooses Rome, and remained loyal, because he already had a bad reputation against the sassanids for defeating them in battle. Also, there's no logical point to rise up against Rome and declare himself emperor to a people that wouldn't accept him anyways due to his eatern origins. He is safe, and his rule in the east is uncontested, his borders secure and his region is booming in trade. He is therewith content. He wouldn't sacrifice all of that for a meager ambition. His wife on the other hand though...

[@samwill7259]

@@Giooseb I mean no, you don't SOUND misogynistic...you just are

[@matro2]

@@samwill7259 He's still right.

[@theromanorder]

Recommendation to put on your to do list: roman shose... specifically if they had foot support like my feet need soles for my arched heels

[@nacho3741]

*RESTITUTOR ORBIS intensifies*

[@micahistory]

good overview. I wonder how history would've changed if it had lasted longer

[@peterlewerin4213]

That was an extremely compressed "history of the Palmyrene Empire", omitting almost everything of interest.

[@catmoon984]

Didn't the Roman governor of Egypt escape capture the first time then come back and try to retake but got capture and killed before Aurelian attack

[@202З]

Palmyra Empire Arabic-Aramaic empire

[@CartoonHistory]

2:10 early years daenerys targaryen?

[@kioselnelio4598]

historically anachronistic aurelian helmet

[@youvebeengreeked]

*If yov're not worshipping Avrelian - praises be vnto Him - on the daily, why are yov even here?*

[@EthanEl-c4k]

yov XD

[@youvebeengreeked]

@@EthanEl-c4k :) Read it again, there's more v's.

[@terrysanders5109]

Aramaic and Arab empire

[@TEDAC771]

Upper class was roman but I get your point

[@terrysanders5109]

@@TEDAC771 They adopted Roman customs and traditions for sure

[@Faisal-pb5gu]

Only arab The only thing Aramaic was the official language (Arabic was the popular language but Aramaic was the language of the elite and common communication with other Middle Easterners)

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Aramaic empire

[@terrysanders5109]

Aramaic and Arab empire

[@Faisal-pb5gu]

It is an Arab empire Adopting Aramaic as an official language does not make Palmyra “Aramaic” Aramaic was a common language adopted by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and Persians as an official language

[@Faisal-pb5gu]

@@terrysanders5109 It was completely Arab The only thing Aramaic was the official language as the Palmyrene Aramaic dialect was highly influenced by Arabic

[@elshebactm6769]

🤠👍🏿

[@aram226]

When syria was great 😢

[@Faisal-pb5gu]

Syria was fully integrated into the Roman Empire, and the Arab rulers in Syria had autonomy and a close relationship with Rome. Zenobia's rebellion brought devastation to Palmyra and centralized Roman control over Arab lands

[@aram226]

@@Faisal-pb5gu palmyra wasn't arabic lol

[@Faisal-pb5gu]

@@aram226 Palmyra was a city with an Arab majority Arabic was the common language among the population, and they had Arabic names and worshiped Arabic gods (Allat). Even Aurelian, when he destroyed Palmyra, mentioned that he had defeated the Arabs

[@Faisal-pb5gu]

@@aram226 Even Arab-Islamic sources mention Zenobia as an Arab queen

[@aram226]

@@Faisal-pb5gu sources please

[@flavius5722]

Maybe it was better for the antique world if the Roman empire find his end there in the 3 century. Better than in our timeline at least.

[@TEDAC771]

True plus imagine having the 3 empires alive aurelian does his thing zenobia is a beast of a woman as we know and the gallic emperor wasn't bad