History of the Slavic Languages

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Costas Melas

Costas Melas

4 жыл бұрын

History of the Slavic Languages, Slavs, Proto-Slavic, East Slavic, West Slavic, South Slavic, Old Church Slavonic, South East Slavic, South West Slavic, Lechitic, Polabian, Sorbian, Pomeranian, Polish, Ruthenian, Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Rusyn, Serbo-Croatian, Slovene, Bulgarian, Slavic Macedonian
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@bradleyagdern1477
@bradleyagdern1477 3 жыл бұрын
this map is all wrong. The Croats weren't striped. They're checkered. It's a big difference.
@barivs8736
@barivs8736 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@iamseamonkey6688
@iamseamonkey6688 4 жыл бұрын
2:20 let's just take a moment to acknowledge barcode romania
@_braileanul
@_braileanul 4 жыл бұрын
Epic
@iulianneghina4870
@iulianneghina4870 3 жыл бұрын
This is because the Old Church Slavonic functioned for the Romanian church as well as for the state chancelleries as an official language for many hundreds of years. It had the same status that Latin had for the Catholic Church. As the monasteries held the cultural monopoly of the Romanian space, OldChurchSlavonic continued to Slavicize the Romanian language also because the Orthodox Church saw Latin as an exponent of the Catholic Church (the enemy). Proper names, toponyms, river names, have been translated into Slavonic, remaining to this day in the official toponymy. The Cyrillic alphabet was used to write in Romanian until the middle of the 19th century, etc
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 3 жыл бұрын
This representation is heavily biased to modern countries. Example Hungary, Eastern and South Austria were slavic speaking places before the year 1000.
@dowmont6209
@dowmont6209 3 жыл бұрын
And partly Romania and Moldova,and germany.
@alakazor9643
@alakazor9643 3 жыл бұрын
@@dowmont6209 Moldova actually was completely slavic before vlachs migration.
@reikers
@reikers 3 жыл бұрын
@@alakazor9643 nope, vlach means strange/stranger/foreigner in old slavon or slavic, they gave them this name because they didn't speak a slavic language and they couldn't understand them, they already lived in modern day romania, but not around the sea
@alakazor9643
@alakazor9643 3 жыл бұрын
@@reikers Vlachs migration in modern Moldova was started in near X-XI centuries, before this moment it was completely slavic.
@reikers
@reikers 3 жыл бұрын
@@alakazor9643 it was more avar not slavic
@simonm_25
@simonm_25 4 жыл бұрын
I like your map style.
@Oleksij_Shelest
@Oleksij_Shelest 4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@MargaritaMagdalena
@MargaritaMagdalena 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a reg map to me tbh
@arta.xshaca
@arta.xshaca Жыл бұрын
@@MargaritaMagdalena so what
@shockhs7371
@shockhs7371 3 жыл бұрын
Slavic influence enter in Romanian territory Italics: Damn you!
@chuckbrotton2449
@chuckbrotton2449 3 жыл бұрын
Only as a liturgical language is Eastern Orthodox worship and scholarship
@PhoeniX-jc2vq
@PhoeniX-jc2vq 3 жыл бұрын
@Osama Bin Laden West Slavs and East Slavs may be like that because of Russia. South Slavs... you know why. :)
@DEIYIAN
@DEIYIAN 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuckbrotton2449 The nowadays territory of Romania was inhabited by Slavic speakers since the very beginning. Just a natural melting pot culturally and genetically. Another aspect is that during the Romanian renascence in the 19-th century some thousand words of Slavic (not to say Bulgarian) origin were mechanically swapped with French, Italian or Latin ones, but that is also a normal process. Yet there are maybe not less than 10% of Slavic words in use and countless toponyms. Also the Romanian is part of the Balkan Linguistic Community with Albanian, Bulgarian and Greek. It was not a matter of bureaucracy like the Latin in the West.
@MeszikeChannel
@MeszikeChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckbrotton2449 Nope, there is many slavic placename in modern Romania.
@AlexanderSSI
@AlexanderSSI 2 жыл бұрын
@@DEIYIAN The whole of Europe was a melting pot, the area of Romania today is no different. And there was no "mechanical" removal of words. You can take a text before and after and you'll see no major differences. What actually happened is that during the "Romanian Rennaisance" alot of loanwords were introduced from the French language just like today we have alot of loanwords for IT/computer stuff from English. "The nowadays territory of Romania was inhabited by Slavic speakers since the very beginning" - Yeah, right! The Dacians/Getae/Tharcians/Carpians, even the Celts were in present-day territory of Romania earlier than the Slavs. What is the "beginning" for you lol?
@solidnuss2868
@solidnuss2868 3 жыл бұрын
Ha: I am a Sorbian.
@Nista357
@Nista357 3 жыл бұрын
Hello brother from Serbia! 🥰
@r.t.5767
@r.t.5767 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nista357 Sorbs are from Lusatia, not from Serbia :D
@r.t.5767
@r.t.5767 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, greetings from polish neighbour!
@Nista357
@Nista357 3 жыл бұрын
@@r.t.5767 Sorbs are from Serbs that went to help Samo's empire and great Moravia against the Vatican and Teutonic genocide later. We are relatives. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Juri%C5%A1i%C4%87_%C5%A0turm
@Nista357
@Nista357 3 жыл бұрын
@@r.t.5767 Hello brothers in PL! 🤍❤✊✊✊
@mihanich
@mihanich 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody needs to make a meme with Cyrill and Methodius saying "Slav, my son, you're a Christian now. Now it's time for you to choose between an alphabet we specially made for your language to fit it's phonetics, or you can choose an alphabet originally invented to write Etruscan and use shitloads of diacritics and digraphs. Catholic Slavs: Szczieczjaščžju
@madziamaddie9948
@madziamaddie9948 2 жыл бұрын
Przeszkadza Ci to? xD
@kryn1u
@kryn1u 2 жыл бұрын
ur wrong actually, cyryllic dont have proper phonetics for polish language. that's why we use ą ę ś ć ż ź
@kryn1u
@kryn1u 2 жыл бұрын
@Zoej source?
@vampir1451
@vampir1451 2 жыл бұрын
@@kryn1u little yus (ѧ) represents ę, big yus (ѫ) represents ą
@dragskcinnay3184
@dragskcinnay3184 2 жыл бұрын
@Zoej true, early cyrillic ѫ and ѧ for nasal vowels, but it never had any letters to distinguish cz from ć, sz from ś and rz/ż from ź...
@viktormilosevic8172
@viktormilosevic8172 2 жыл бұрын
Very good map, its just biased towards modern borders and demographics. For example parts of Austria and the panonian basin were slavic speaking before the year 1000 and northern albania was predominantly slavic before the ottoman conquest, judging by ottoman tax reports. And kosovo was majority slavic until pretty recently.
@skend3489
@skend3489 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong about Kosovo. Its Majority Albanian since hundreds of years. Whats pretty recently for you?
@viktormilosevic8172
@viktormilosevic8172 2 жыл бұрын
@@skend3489 What does "since hundreds of years ago" mean to you. Albanians started settling there in larger numbers in the 18th century after the area was left depopulated from Ottoman reprisals. The settlers were were largely catholic but were forced to adopt islam soon after. After that point the Albanian population slowly rose up while the Serb population was dwindling due to atrocities commited by the Turks before the balkan wars, Bulgarians during WW1, Italians during WW2 encouraging Albanian irredentism, a standard divide and conquer strategy. After the world wars, Tito has plans for Albania to join Yugoslavia and the key was gifting kosovo to it so he made no effort to bring back the displaced families from the second world war. After that the Yugoslav wars marked the latest exodus of serbs from both Kosovo and other parts of former Yugoslavia. I hope this answers your question
@skend3489
@skend3489 2 жыл бұрын
@@viktormilosevic8172 Even if it is True why should it matter now? You cant just Kick them out of their homes they didnt ask to be Born There, they didnt do anything to you but live in a land. And Kosovo had always had an Albanien Pop.
@skend3489
@skend3489 2 жыл бұрын
@@viktormilosevic8172 Do you see where im going at? Todays Albanians in Kosova didnt emigrate they were just Born there they know nothing else. We dont have to argue over autochtony because what mattere is that we are all humans and humans wander and borders were always shifting in history. The Balkans is a Special case because of all the big Empires that were ruling over it for thousands of years.
@skend3489
@skend3489 2 жыл бұрын
I can Tell you that northern albania was Never slavic. Since thousands of years only Albanians lived there
@boemiobe4t993
@boemiobe4t993 4 жыл бұрын
Make baltic languages next! And then finno-ugric languages.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 4 жыл бұрын
Baltic possibly to be done soon
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so Unusual Well you got your wish
@ZordragRF
@ZordragRF 3 жыл бұрын
German and schweden!
@Ponanoix
@Ponanoix Жыл бұрын
​@@ZordragRF Germanic languages
@Tito_Barleti
@Tito_Barleti Жыл бұрын
You can add "please".
@gansrusish4729
@gansrusish4729 Жыл бұрын
Video: History of the Slavs. Slavs: *aggressively hate each other in the comments*
@goranjovic3174
@goranjovic3174 8 ай бұрын
Samo sloga Slovene Spasava! 😊❤ Slava velikom Slovenskom rodu!
@Tomukmakto
@Tomukmakto Ай бұрын
No. We love each other 🤗
@iljailit5438
@iljailit5438 3 жыл бұрын
All in all really good video, jut several Slavic languages have longer history of their grammar than the video suggests (Bulgarian, Slovene, Slovak, to name a few) and the fluctuations of geographical extent of some of them have been slightly bigger than shown here.
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
you know that Slovaks + Moravians and Panonian Slavs had one name: Slovieni
@Rhosus
@Rhosus 2 жыл бұрын
@@881terror that's not exactly right either, it's like saying that "only" these slavic people were called slavs, which in fact were all the other ones too... since slovieni literally means "slav"... People oftentimes forget that humans back then didn't differenciate between each other that much when it came to nationality and so they went "ah yes, I'm slav" (funnily enough it also means that great moravia's true name is "kingdom of the slavs" and it's ruler was "king of slavs")
@Ponanoix
@Ponanoix Жыл бұрын
​@@Rhosus They were calling themselves Slavs probably because there was not something like a sense of nationality back then and all Slavic people used to call themselves similarly. They would probably call other Slavs, well, "Slavs", so "People of the word (those who can speak [our language])" and non-Slavs "Mutes" / "Nemci" (people who cannot speak [our language])
@pavlesevaljevic4623
@pavlesevaljevic4623 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ponanoixhow do you expalin north and south Sorbs in Lužica in germany and south Sorbs in Polan in relation to Serbs from Balkan. It is known that Lutschich Serbs had their "kneževina: in 600-700 a.c. They still live in that land which is not taken into acount on this map. It would be great if the video could be corected and posted again so that there would be no more missunderstandings left.
@kungszigfrids1482
@kungszigfrids1482 Жыл бұрын
This video starts from when slavic split off from baltic. I think its reasonable since he doesnt start the video about germanic langauges from PIE either.
@mashiah1
@mashiah1 4 жыл бұрын
Old Novgorod dialect that was spoken in North Russia until 16th century is missing. It was very different from Old Russian, could be classified as its own branch(North Slavic)
@KIRILL-fl7cp
@KIRILL-fl7cp 4 жыл бұрын
Not very but different from Rostov - Suzdal dialect. And from the combiantion of these two dialects the Old Russian has developed.
@Oleksij_Shelest
@Oleksij_Shelest 4 жыл бұрын
@@KIRILL-fl7cp Good joke.
@KIRILL-fl7cp
@KIRILL-fl7cp 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oleksij_Shelest Joke is ukranian propaganda you believe my friend
@Oleksij_Shelest
@Oleksij_Shelest 4 жыл бұрын
@@KIRILL-fl7cp Sad. You can't make it better.
@ChirkunovIvan
@ChirkunovIvan 4 жыл бұрын
It was not very different. It had some minor, but unique features, but basically, it was completely mutually understandable with other East Slavic dialects.
@user-ns2cx4in1h
@user-ns2cx4in1h 4 жыл бұрын
Greeting SLAVIC LANGUAGEAS 🇵🇱🇷🇺🇧🇾🇷🇸🇺🇦🇭🇷🇸🇮🇧🇬🇧🇦🇲🇰
@TheOlgaSasha
@TheOlgaSasha 3 жыл бұрын
You also forgot 🇨🇿🇸🇰🇲🇪
@luphemalc
@luphemalc 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOlgaSasha Pochoże dlja nego czechy, slowaky i ćernogorcy ne braťja. Nawernoe, oni jego ćem-to obideli :)
@exquaze3785
@exquaze3785 3 жыл бұрын
Cześć bracie
@user-je2ep6xj7o
@user-je2ep6xj7o 3 жыл бұрын
Russian is not slavic.
@artemi6057
@artemi6057 3 жыл бұрын
Вітаю
@Turagrong
@Turagrong 4 жыл бұрын
1:14 That's... familiar...
@bruhsoundeffect2882
@bruhsoundeffect2882 4 жыл бұрын
polish bois
@pavels.6670
@pavels.6670 4 жыл бұрын
WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
@mierokatak322
@mierokatak322 4 жыл бұрын
@River Piscean To że to mem związany z I RP, a te tereny przypominają dawniej przez nią posiadane - śmieszne czy nieśmieszne to nieważne, to mem
@anotherhumanbeing3923
@anotherhumanbeing3923 3 жыл бұрын
China ?
@DanksterPaws
@DanksterPaws 3 жыл бұрын
Whats with the two china replies. Is that the only thing that has that shape? Its not even relevant to the video. The shape looks similar to Polish-Lithuania or just Poland in WW2. Not the china china
@dgsf9444
@dgsf9444 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Comments: "This is the russian/greek/ukrainian propaganda!"
@dgsf9444
@dgsf9444 4 жыл бұрын
@Multorum Unum Hieronymus Bosch "The Garden of Earthly Delights"
@dgsf9444
@dgsf9444 4 жыл бұрын
@Multorum Unum Your welcome!
@admetan
@admetan 4 жыл бұрын
Привіт from Ukraine
@dgsf9444
@dgsf9444 4 жыл бұрын
@Чичо Радко That means that people act like that without visible reasons.
@user-lc7hv1mb4c
@user-lc7hv1mb4c 4 жыл бұрын
Чё?
@aerohydreigon1101
@aerohydreigon1101 4 жыл бұрын
4:17 Top 10 Saddest Anime Deaths
@Pingijno
@Pingijno 4 жыл бұрын
rip polabian
@_braileanul
@_braileanul 4 жыл бұрын
The only dead slavic language
@kreuzritter4898
@kreuzritter4898 4 жыл бұрын
i don't see anything
@konstantinkaramales7449
@konstantinkaramales7449 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pingijno where was spoken this language?
@Turagrong
@Turagrong 3 жыл бұрын
2:10 man, 2:10...
@kao1895
@kao1895 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace polabian slavs conquered by germans
@olaful5343
@olaful5343 3 жыл бұрын
They are not killed
@user-qu2ol7fz1z
@user-qu2ol7fz1z 3 жыл бұрын
@@olaful5343 but are forcibly assimilated
@johngalt1448
@johngalt1448 3 жыл бұрын
If it were not for Russia, most, if not all, Slavs would have been overrun by Germans and others by now.
@kirilll7806
@kirilll7806 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace east Germanic tribes
@nestingherit7012
@nestingherit7012 2 жыл бұрын
And rest in peace Dalmatian language, that slavs made it extinct.
@lordpolish2727
@lordpolish2727 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive and difficult task to complete! my only nitpick is that it was a bit early to see Polish dissapear in some of Silesia, in the areas north of the oder Polish was still generlaly the majority language until after the thirty years war, and as well as Opole
@Ponanoix
@Ponanoix 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for example Wrocław was still a majority speaking, border-line polish city in 1650, only later did the german-polish line crossed it. But generally speaking, the germanisation of Silesia was pretty slow during Austrian times, only after Prussia, later Germany, seized the territory In 1742, the process became more rapid
@CrazyLeiFeng
@CrazyLeiFeng 2 жыл бұрын
that video is wrong. Polish was spoken as a minority language throughout the whole of Ukraine (with exception of Crimea) and Belarus until extermination of Poles by Soviets in 1937-38. There were majority Polish areas near Minsk and Kiyv until that time. Lvov (Lviv) in Western Ukraine was majority Polish until Soviets expelled Poles in 1945-46. According to the Tsarist census of 1897 6% of Smolensk (Russia) population were Poles.
@lordpolish2727
@lordpolish2727 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyLeiFeng Yes, you are right about that too
@andrewshepitko6354
@andrewshepitko6354 2 жыл бұрын
At first time when I was in Poland and heard polish I had impression to be in middle age because of sounds of polish language. Great language
@Zrck33
@Zrck33 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive, very nice...
@SLOVORussianlanguage
@SLOVORussianlanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thank you
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 4 жыл бұрын
Reuploaded to improve some points and fix some graphics problems
@historyfin1234
@historyfin1234 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the spead of Eastern Slavic/Russian was that fast into Karelia/North. But I might be wrong. There is little knoledge/information about that. But there's atleat one mistake that I am sure. There was atleast no Russian speaking population in the Finnish Karelia(1917-1940/1944). After the WW2 Karelia was repopulared with mostly Russian speakers due to every Karelian and Finnish people leaving the "Old (Finnish) Karelia". I'm not sure about the situation during (1812-1917), but even then there must have very 'few' Russian speakers. There was maybe no Russia speakers in the northern "Finnish Karelia" due to that been part of Sweden (1658-1721). But its hard to say.
@user-cl7pm7zm3x
@user-cl7pm7zm3x 4 жыл бұрын
Where is Yaik cossaks? which conquere in the 16th century Nogay Horde en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_Cossacks and, at least to the 20 century they was majority of Ural river population
@Oleksij_Shelest
@Oleksij_Shelest 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-cl7pm7zm3x Because Moxel "Cossacks" are finno-turkic people. They wouldn't even understand a single Slavic word.
@user-cl7pm7zm3x
@user-cl7pm7zm3x 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oleksij_Shelest Ural cosacks spoke on Finougric language? very interesting. Why they have russish names?
@Oleksij_Shelest
@Oleksij_Shelest 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-cl7pm7zm3x I think you use too untruthful history book to make any statement that I would believe into it.
@masterofnordinbad8914
@masterofnordinbad8914 3 жыл бұрын
Slovenian is actually closer to czech and slovak language than other south slavic but because of location on the map and our history under yougoslavia they count us as sout slavic language and slovenians inhabit all of Kärnten and styria in austria. And slovenian fist book is from 10th century and first dictionary was written in 15th century which meand that slovenian existed way beafore than what is showed in this video It is miracle that slovenian language still exist at first slovenians or carantanians were part of samo's kingdom and after that we had our country called carantania we fought wars with avars, franks and bavarians. Eventualy we surrender in year 828 and than we beacame duchy of frankish kingdom until year 900 after that franks give carantania under the bavarians and so slovenian language was forbiden until the end of austro-hungary empire in 1918
@amalgama2000
@amalgama2000 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing with East Slavic languages. Belarusian and Ukrainian are more similar to Slovak/Sorbian/Czech then to Russian, because they evolved from the common language unlike Russian (from the Old Church Slavonic). But because of the location they all considered to be in one group
@kssrnotsoviet
@kssrnotsoviet 2 жыл бұрын
@@amalgama2000 Czech? What They are mix of Polish and Russian
@amalgama2000
@amalgama2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@kssrnotsoviet your expertise in languages and eternities is beyond poor. But it isn't strange if one take your nickname under consideration. All soviets are hard core delusionists
@bartlomiejsosnowski4840
@bartlomiejsosnowski4840 Жыл бұрын
🇵🇱 🇨🇿 🇸🇰 🇸🇮 🔵🔴⚪💪
@pavlesevaljevic4623
@pavlesevaljevic4623 Жыл бұрын
They have all in common that they were greatly influenced by germanic language. I speak Slovenian and Serbian. You can kind of tell how old is the language by how it sounds because it coresponds with duration of the opression from other non slavs. I am learning Macedonian and have many Macedonian friends, i can tell you thet there are a lot more "Slovenian" words in Macedonian language than in Serbian, even tho Macedonia is considerd to be the Old Serbia because early Serbian history happened predomenantly on that land. That coresponds with them being concured by Turks tham other parts of Serbia so it renaind more unchanged to this day because it was repressed. Slovenian was also repressed pretty early and for a long time, that is why they sound more similar even tho they are so far apart, plus foreign words they adopted. Next to be concord by otomans were Serbs and then after Serbs croats by austrhungary. You can kind of see the evolution of south slavic language from old south slavic (wersion of Slovenian and Macedonian) to Serbian (ekavica) and then to croatian dialect jekavica which is also spoken in Montenegro which was never concord by anyone (but they identify as Serbs and say they speak Serbian). I should also mention I actually originate from Montenegro from Njeguši (some people may be confused when I say I'm Serbian). The longer the sluth slavs stayed independant the more alive was the language and the faster it changed/evolved. I believe it would be possible to apply that teory to other slavic languages, it doesent necessarly mean they were opressed it cud also mean that they were just under stronger foreign influence. For example Russian kind of sounds like jekavica to me (just that they don't call it that, you know the use of the soft and hard letter). Cech, Slovach, Polish and Lužičko Serbian sound more similar to my ear, more "rough" like german. Love to all Slavic brothers and sisters, protect and cherish our language, tradition and faith. Glory to God in heaven, peace to earth and good will among us.
@pitombaroxa
@pitombaroxa 2 жыл бұрын
Muito bom. Muito legal. Bem entendido através deste mapa ver expansão do língua eslava. Parabéns.
@VanaheimrUllr
@VanaheimrUllr Ай бұрын
Dont forget to give the video and author a thumbs up.. Its so deserved. This is so cool, and just so fast put things into perspective, this is honey for my brain.
@turagrong9308
@turagrong9308 3 жыл бұрын
4:31 This is particularly the one I like the most
@mikoajbojarczuk9395
@mikoajbojarczuk9395 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! A video visually describing the history of the Slavic languages has emerged! Bring fourth our Slava!🇵🇱🇨🇿🇸🇰🇷🇺🇺🇦🇧🇾🇷🇸🇭🇷🇸🇮🇲🇪🇧🇦🇧🇬🇲🇰
@Oleksij_Shelest
@Oleksij_Shelest 4 жыл бұрын
No, this video do not come even close to actual describe real history of Slavic languages spreading.
@user-xz4ck8zs2u
@user-xz4ck8zs2u 4 жыл бұрын
bruh 😬
@gabrielzak.7942
@gabrielzak.7942 4 жыл бұрын
@@nnannbbh that's a point
@user-uk1bi4fp4z
@user-uk1bi4fp4z 4 жыл бұрын
@@nnannbbh Kosovo
@stefanmirkovic6681
@stefanmirkovic6681 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf Kosovo? Kosovo je Srbija🇷🇸
@evermay1582
@evermay1582 3 жыл бұрын
Serbo-Croatian counted as one? As it always should have been ❤
@craftah
@craftah Жыл бұрын
literally the same languages they just seperate because of politics
@pavlesevaljevic4623
@pavlesevaljevic4623 Жыл бұрын
It is just a dialect no need for separation.
@kungszigfrids1482
@kungszigfrids1482 Жыл бұрын
@@pavlesevaljevic4623 If serbocroatian is to be split in 2 based on dialects you would get serbocroatian and dalmatian.
@gordonpi8674
@gordonpi8674 10 ай бұрын
Yes, and it will be that way, it will always be the same language with a few accents.
@skin4700
@skin4700 10 ай бұрын
People will say its the same language but that name implies serbian dominance and thats why croats dont like it. Even thoe I can understand more of serbian than most of the island dialects of croatia. Its sad that we are not united but the time for that was 1200 years ago, we cannot be the same even thoe we are brothers.
@ROCZONMAZUR
@ROCZONMAZUR 2 жыл бұрын
Parabéns , um excelente trabalho , principalmente na tentativa de sincronização, sou brasileiro de origem eslava (polonesa), lendo os comentários você pode perceber que não consegue agradar a "gregos e troianos" , fique tranquilo foi um ótimo trabalho (nesse exercício temos que levar em conta o nacionalismo e o antagonismo étnico, muita besteira se produz para defender as ideias megalomaníacas ), do ponto de vista cientifico os linguistas e geneticistas estão contribuindo para preencher as lacunas dos arqueólogos, antropólogos e historiadores !
@MarcosVinicius-dh6fk
@MarcosVinicius-dh6fk 2 жыл бұрын
eu sou decendente de venezianos, valeu por ajudar a defender veneza contra os turcos 😎👍
@paxetamor8276
@paxetamor8276 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarcosVinicius-dh6fk Are you joking? in reality it is the Republic of the Serenissima that prevented the Ottomans from invading part of Montenegro, part of Croatia and part of Slovenia. keep in mind that the Venetians had already colonized some Turkish and Greek territories, up to Malta. Just to be clearer .... 😉
@Ponanoix
@Ponanoix Жыл бұрын
Hello Brazilian of polish descent. I live in Poland and am of polish descent, similarly
@austenhead5303
@austenhead5303 3 жыл бұрын
Slovene diverged from Serbo-Croatian only a century and a half ago? I find that hard to believe, they're quite different. Some of your info must be off.
@masterofnordinbad8914
@masterofnordinbad8914 3 жыл бұрын
Slovenian is actually closer to czech and slovak language than other south slavic but because of location on the map and our history under yougoslavia they count us as sout slavic language And slovenian fist book is from 10th century and first dictionary was written in 15th century It is miracle that slovenian language still exist at first slovenians or carantanians were part of samo's kingdom and after that we had our country called carantania we fought wars with avars, franks and bavarians. Eventualy we surrender in year 828 and than we beacame duchy of frankish kingdom until year 900 after that franks give carantania under the bavarians and so slovenian language was forbiden until the end of austro-hungary empire in 1918
@DelijeSerbia
@DelijeSerbia 3 жыл бұрын
map is wrong on so many levels.
@dragonitzgame
@dragonitzgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@masterofnordinbad8914 So why do all linguists put it as a South Slavic language? It has nothing to do with the location.
@masterofnordinbad8914
@masterofnordinbad8914 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonitzgame idk probabli location and history I know that slovak language and czech language are way closer to alovenian than serbo croatian
@dragonitzgame
@dragonitzgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@masterofnordinbad8914 maybe its like the case of English? It has more Romance vocabulary but its a Germanic language. Anyway, the video is a bit wrong, because in Austria and Hungary Slavs lived for a long time. Perhaps Slovenian is the link between the West Slavic languages and the South Slavic languages, and that is why it resembles both.
@_LoremIpsum
@_LoremIpsum 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful. Thank you. I always wondered how s Country so close to Italy as Slovenia has a so different lenguauge from neolatin
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@numenoreaneternity6682
@numenoreaneternity6682 2 жыл бұрын
The video is grossly inaccurate, Slavic speakers of the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th centuries should've been the vast majority in all of Southeastern Europe and mainland Greece, barring some isolated footholds of Latinitate and Koine Greek, like Monemvasia, Adrianople, Thessaloniki, and some cities on the Eastern Adriatic coast.
@VuleProductions
@VuleProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Byzantine didn't even control that regions. Even Thessaloniki (Solun) had bunch of Slavs there
@nikolaistoyanov1720
@nikolaistoyanov1720 Жыл бұрын
The author of the video was born in the south of Bulgaria. This explains all the inaccuracies that concern you.
@ondracmiel3084
@ondracmiel3084 2 жыл бұрын
Super video :).
@jml732
@jml732 2 жыл бұрын
There is also a village on Sjælland (Denmark) called Kramnitse (or Kramnitze), wich was initially settled by slavs.
@michaelcalle2981
@michaelcalle2981 10 ай бұрын
Slavs never reached Denmark at all and there's no evidence to proof it, the name kramnitise (Kramnitize) may not actually be of wendish origin but if its of slavic origin then it's proberly named because of Germans who were occupying and influencing some of Denmark with village names since Germany has lots of slavic names who then adapted it as their own. Slavs only reached to schielwig near anglia which is northern Germany (close to border of Denmark)
@michaelcalle2981
@michaelcalle2981 5 ай бұрын
@@jml732The slavs only traded with the Vikings during those ages but they NEVER ever settled in coastal areas of Denmark and Norway since they were ongoing conflicts between them and they never wanted wars between each other so they did only trade. Those are fully homogenous Germanic nations.
@michaelcalle2981
@michaelcalle2981 5 ай бұрын
@@jml732Trade doesn’t also always mean intermingling with each other but by that logic it means eastern Slavs have Turkic and Mongolian ancestry because they raided them and did mass trade.
@user-jo2ps6el9i
@user-jo2ps6el9i 2 ай бұрын
​@@michaelcalle2981 Ukrainians and Southern Slavs sure have turkish influence, they are darker than other slavs. And tatars sure had common progeny with eastern slavs, because there are populations of tatars who have blue eyes, blonde hair and european eye shape, especially in Kazan city
@user-gw2zu5do2r
@user-gw2zu5do2r 2 жыл бұрын
Great!
@twistzaok
@twistzaok 2 жыл бұрын
fun fact - there is a region with pomeranian speakers in Brazil
@sixteoriolllenassegura9577
@sixteoriolllenassegura9577 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesomeeee
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bbr6667
@bbr6667 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting 👍
@user-mv7xi1ey4z
@user-mv7xi1ey4z 4 жыл бұрын
In the mid-9th century, Lower Pannonia was inhabited by a Slavic majority. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Pannonia_(9th_century)
@unikitty5131
@unikitty5131 4 жыл бұрын
That is why Hungarians and Poles are best friends.
@mcarco118
@mcarco118 3 жыл бұрын
I've read somewhere that "panonian Slavs" were living there until the year 1500.
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcarco118 panonian Slavs + moravians + Slovaks are in one language family = Slovieni
@perseus274
@perseus274 3 ай бұрын
@@mcarco118 1800s, they were Magyarized during Magyarization, which started in 1867 - 1918. Anton Bernolák, who wrote Slovak Slowár (1700s) was Panonian slav.
@quffazalaswad2549
@quffazalaswad2549 3 жыл бұрын
Good job! The pre-1944 eastern border of Finland is incorrect though, and Hungarian was the prevailing language in the south of modern Slovakia until WWII too
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
and where is Panonian Slavs and principality of Balaton?
@juniorcrusher2245
@juniorcrusher2245 2 жыл бұрын
He shows it as mixed
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
@@juniorcrusher2245 but they was not mixed. They was Slavic
@perseus274
@perseus274 3 ай бұрын
South Slovakia, north Hungary and Pannonia was a slavic speaking until Magyarization in 1867 - 1918.
@dpw6546
@dpw6546 5 ай бұрын
Wow, that must've taken a lot of time to compile for sure. Talking about painstaking work. However, the Proto-Slavic area shown in the first minute of the video was in vast majority Baltic or Proto-Baltic. On the other hand a huge chunk of the actual Proto-Slavic area has been left blank where it should've been marked Proto-Slavic: that area was approximately the Odra and Wisła basins (+ some middle reaches of the Łaba), naturally restricted by the sea in the north and various mountain ranges in the south. Bordering (Proto-)Baltic in the north-east and east, Thracian in the south-east, Celtic to the south-west and Germanic in the west (also not forgetting the "das drittes Volk" there who were Proto-Balto-Slavic kin of some kind).
@adnankamen6470
@adnankamen6470 Жыл бұрын
The term Serbo-Croatian has only been around since 1824 and it was coined by a German dictionarist and folklorist Jacob Grimm, the term completely undermines the Bosnian and Montenegrin influence and development of this branch of Slavic, while many say that this language has the clearest form/accent in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
@davidanderson9664
@davidanderson9664 3 жыл бұрын
Top notch! Спасибо very much! D.A., J.D., (atty, writer, Russian student) NYC
@robertab929
@robertab929 5 ай бұрын
Video is plenty of errors.
@vladexsto6356
@vladexsto6356 Жыл бұрын
Очень интересное видео, спасибо!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@amatuspragensis6106
@amatuspragensis6106 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful history! Well done. But one thing I don't understand. Why Czech and Slovak separated in your map so late? As far as I know (and I am Czech), written Czech was first documented at the begining of 13th century and at the turn of 14th and 15th century, it gradually established as chancery language in Kingdom of Bohemia, Margriavite of Moravia nad Upper Silesian duchies. Approximately at the turn of 15th and 16th century, Czech also established as written language in Upper Hungary (i. e. what is today Slovakia), but in specific, definitely slovakized form, which means, that common spoken language in what is today Slovakia was in that time markedly different from spoken language in Bohemia and Moravia. It does mean, that also Slovak was at that time established as separate language. Not yet written, but definitely spoken. At the turn of 18th and 19th century, Czech literary language underwent extensive modernization (so called Czech national revival, which was basically reaction to preceding prolonged decline of the language), whilst Slovaks developed roughly at the same time genuine Slovak literary language (instead of slovakized Czech). But it definitelly doesn't mean that before 19th century were no separate Czech and Slovak languages. Please, don't take it as criticism. Your histories are awsome and I greatly admire you. It was just my minor factual note.
@rdtgr8
@rdtgr8 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Maybe I'm not an expert in Slovak history, but it's obvious that Slovak is significantly closer to Ukrainian and Serbo-Croatian languages and is quite understandable to speakers of them. From genetic point of view Slovaks are not so hard R1a-M458-dominated as Czechs, which makes them somewhat closer to R1a-Z280-CTS-dominated South-West and East Slavs. And simultaneously unlike Czechs and Poles they have quite much (16%) I2a, which is close to Slovene (22%) and Ukrainian (20.5%) levels, despite it's still much less than Serbo-Croates have (31-54%), however last exaggerated value may be explained via Founder effect work. So in total it's likely that Slovak from beginning was a mix of West Slavic (Czech) and Carpathian (Ukrainian, Serbo-Croatian, Slovene) dialects.
@mcarco118
@mcarco118 3 жыл бұрын
@@rdtgr8 I think that I know the reason why you see slovak language as some kind of mix of western and carpathian slavic language. In my humble opinion it's because in 7-9th century in todays west and middle Slovakia was slavic tribe of Nitravians (ancestors of Slovaks) and on the east there were White Croats. One part of them later moved on Balkan and second stayed and most likely were assimilated. So mix of western Nitravians and eastern White Croats could caused that nowadays slovak language can be understandable to many other Slavic nations.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the "inaccuracies" are based on different quantity and quality of surviving historical records - things may suddenly appear different before and after gaps in the data instead of blurring through transition. Language drift and genetic drift are both constant yet gradual ... until contact with an outside population quickly imposes dramatic changes.
@pavlesevaljevic4623
@pavlesevaljevic4623 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnPTmqt-ZZ1rrsk
@Vero_la_fea
@Vero_la_fea 8 ай бұрын
According to modern linguistics Czech and Slovak are the same language even today
@zvjatouslawinc.7098
@zvjatouslawinc.7098 4 жыл бұрын
Было очень интересно! Спасибо!
@arvantsaraihan5777
@arvantsaraihan5777 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it'd be started from Proto-Balto-Slavic
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
yeah why he dont give that years before 50 A.D.?
@grandetristesse3370
@grandetristesse3370 2 жыл бұрын
It all started from russia and Ukraine
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
@@grandetristesse3370 yeah from Ural to Caucasus and Dnieper river.
@asitwaghmare8144
@asitwaghmare8144 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on Indo-Aryan languages next plz
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try to make it in the future
@AD-yq8rl
@AD-yq8rl 4 жыл бұрын
There’s already bunch of videos about that.I think he should make exotic videos that are about the Asia and Africa.
@user-ok9dc5qt8d
@user-ok9dc5qt8d Жыл бұрын
Russian : BRAT HINDI : BARAT
@drdekipetrovic7429
@drdekipetrovic7429 3 жыл бұрын
Only we Serbs and our enemies Croats keep common language today until 2 thousand years!
@CapitanScimitar555
@CapitanScimitar555 3 жыл бұрын
Why enemy?
@undefeated_romantic1692
@undefeated_romantic1692 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, everything is like in the respectable family: it's a family and everyone hates each other, lol.
@bletrick3352
@bletrick3352 2 жыл бұрын
@loder Man Yes and no. It’s definitely not only about religion even if it is the defining factor
@knin8917
@knin8917 2 жыл бұрын
@@bletrick3352 Oh yes bolive me it's only because of religion.
@VuleProductions
@VuleProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@CapitanScimitar555 He probably is a fake Serb or chetnik from Yugoslav wars
@HermitKing731
@HermitKing731 Ай бұрын
How prevalant is old church Slavonic nowadays?
@maciejkwiatkowski7558
@maciejkwiatkowski7558 3 жыл бұрын
There is no certainty among historians about the extent of the Slavic languages before 400 CE. Pannonia before the invasion of the Magyars was also Slavic-speaking, although the Avars ruled there.
@VuleProductions
@VuleProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Slavs were migrating to Byzantine territory trough Avar territory
@bobo-lu2ef
@bobo-lu2ef 2 жыл бұрын
That was only the case for the Pannonian land East of the Danube. Slavs were a significant minority in the rest of Pannonia.
@basedchad6035
@basedchad6035 2 жыл бұрын
@@VuleProductions invading but yeah
@dragonitzgame
@dragonitzgame Жыл бұрын
​@@basedchad6035 Migration is not the same as invation
@basedchad6035
@basedchad6035 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonitzgame you dont think there were people before? You think they were happy their land got taken? Bruv dont be so naive. Its been a while. No reason to lie about that history
@user-dc2hs9lt2m
@user-dc2hs9lt2m 4 жыл бұрын
3:42 it is interesting that Liutprad of Cremona writes that in the northern parts of Europe there live a people who in appearance are called Ρουσιος (Rusios / Reds), and in their place of residence they are called normans (northerners), but normans are Scandinavians, not Slavic.
@TheOlgaSasha
@TheOlgaSasha 4 жыл бұрын
It is not a new fact. Here, in Ukraine, we all learnt even at school that Rus or Ruth were the Normannic people. The Byzantian chronicles of 10-11 centuris call more than 50 names of "folk of Rus" from Kiev (Koenugard), and they all were Scandinavians...Actually, Kievan Rus was a polyethnic medieval state ruled by Normanns and their main dynasty of Rurikids till the Mongolian invasion to Kievan Rus.
@naelerasmans322
@naelerasmans322 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheOlgaSasha As I remember, Rurikids was the main dynasty till the 16 century and then tzars became to Romanovs.
@user-td6mu6uu2h
@user-td6mu6uu2h 2 жыл бұрын
@@naelerasmans322 the Romanovs ruled until the 18th century. then the German dynasty ruled, although they called themselves novels.
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
When was maded DNA test on norwegian and Icelandic people there was founded high percentage of east european DNA R1A around 20-30%. And did you see funeral speech of Swedish king Charles XI? Thats mixture of Polish and Russian not Swedish
@mihanich
@mihanich 2 жыл бұрын
@@881terror at that time there were Russian speaking areas ruled by Sweden east of the Baltic sea (Neva estuary, Yam-Koporye, Karelia etc). And the speech was translated to Russian using Latin alphabet for Russian speaking subjects of the crown. It was also translated to Finnish and other languages. I think knowing about that document and not knowing that swedes actually ruled over some Russians at that time is kind of cringeworthy.
@NNJ4643
@NNJ4643 Жыл бұрын
interesing!
@galiapetrova45
@galiapetrova45 4 жыл бұрын
This is the map of belarussian language in 1903 : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yefim_Karsky#/media/File%3ABelarusians_1903.jpg
@alexey056
@alexey056 4 жыл бұрын
В России любят белорусский язык и Беларусь, и её народ. Все перемещены, поэтому о чётких границах говорить трудно. Не думаю, что в Смоленске как то по другому поймут белорусский язык, чем в других регионах России.
@alexander6108
@alexander6108 4 жыл бұрын
This is not the belarussian map language. This is the the map of dialects. They just spoke russian with different dialect.
@janeza382
@janeza382 4 жыл бұрын
Ruthenian?
@user-kc5sv7du4p
@user-kc5sv7du4p Жыл бұрын
Seeing the sorbs slowly disappear 😔
@Slawny_luziski_Wojak
@Slawny_luziski_Wojak Жыл бұрын
My smy a hišće tu budźemy 💖🔵🔴⚪💖
@user-kc5sv7du4p
@user-kc5sv7du4p Жыл бұрын
@@Slawny_luziski_Wojak I am Sorbian myself
@user-kc5sv7du4p
@user-kc5sv7du4p Жыл бұрын
@@Slawny_luziski_Wojak I support Lusatian Independence and the slavicization of the German race. Germans are already 1/3 slavic.
@haulawcoast
@haulawcoast Жыл бұрын
@@user-kc5sv7du4p wtf nazi
@johniewalker4356
@johniewalker4356 3 жыл бұрын
One correction old Church Slavonic was the official language (old Bulgarian) of the Bulgarian Tsardom.
@andrebyche31
@andrebyche31 11 ай бұрын
Always thought that there were slavic languages in balcans before they had gone towards north.
@nonusolarozationeatoumatic6239
@nonusolarozationeatoumatic6239 6 ай бұрын
Slavs as fast as Rome falls: LET'S DO THIS
@user-fj4gy3if2v
@user-fj4gy3if2v Жыл бұрын
Какими же стойкими типами были наши пращуры. Поклон им до земли за дела их вековые
@hungariancountryball2928
@hungariancountryball2928 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dimiterpp
@dimiterpp 7 ай бұрын
Bulgarian is spoken since 600s at least. Also it was spoken Vlahia and Moldova at least unitl 1800.
@Woloh
@Woloh 3 жыл бұрын
Not too bad - considering the difficulty of the topic.
@aleksmalalan5478
@aleksmalalan5478 3 жыл бұрын
1:26 Austria was all slavic
@ShallIMove
@ShallIMove 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's Hungary.
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 3 жыл бұрын
Austria as Regio Noricum just like Helvetica was Celtic.
@digdug1431
@digdug1431 3 жыл бұрын
@@aniinnrchoque1861 Sorry, the Celts were already Latinized and absent from Inner Austria by this date.
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 3 жыл бұрын
@@digdug1431 I mean yeah in the early 7th century there were at most only gallo-romance remnants left as the Slavs pushed in around that time
@iljailit5438
@iljailit5438 3 жыл бұрын
Depends in which time but approx. in 7th century, the most western Slavic settlements were roughly on the line Linz - Lienz.
@rafakrzentowski9549
@rafakrzentowski9549 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P Polabians (and Panonian Slavs, Dacian Slavs, Greek Slavs and Carantanians) lost slavic cousins [*]
@kosa9662
@kosa9662 Жыл бұрын
Carantanians are still alive, they call themselfs Slovenes
@robertab929
@robertab929 5 ай бұрын
@@kosa9662 But the Slovenian range now is smaller than it was earlier.
@mateo_ferranco
@mateo_ferranco 3 жыл бұрын
Do one on austronesian
@edgarb.6187
@edgarb.6187 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed that this has the latest starting date compared to other videos of Indo-European brances (unless I missed one with a later date). Does this mean that Slavic is the youngest Indo-European branch?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Previously, it was part of the Balto-Slavic group
@bezsinix1962
@bezsinix1962 3 жыл бұрын
Could you sinhronize all your video on one map?
@zamanium7517
@zamanium7517 2 жыл бұрын
И без красных
@bogdancrnokrak74
@bogdancrnokrak74 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, this map is also wrong. There are no traces of Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija before the 17th century. On this map it is shown as if there were no Serbs there at all
@boyanstoilov2603
@boyanstoilov2603 4 жыл бұрын
Страхотно
@deda9829
@deda9829 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can do Arabic varieties
@user-gq6rv5wp2p
@user-gq6rv5wp2p 3 жыл бұрын
If the proto-slavs knew how their offsprings would fight and hate each other would they decide to split up?
@kirilll7806
@kirilll7806 2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@juniorcrusher2245
@juniorcrusher2245 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@guppy719
@guppy719 2 жыл бұрын
There wasn't a choice, areas back then were much more isolated from each other without modern technology
@dariomoreno9267
@dariomoreno9267 4 жыл бұрын
Why did u upload again?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 4 жыл бұрын
There were some issues I noticed after uploading and I should to fix them.
@dariomoreno9267
@dariomoreno9267 4 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas k then. Good video as always :)
@netopir3804
@netopir3804 Ай бұрын
Very nice map! As others mentioned though, slavic identity was much more developed before 1000AD. T😂here are first scripts in ancient Slovene in latin alphabet around 1100 latest in the region of Carinthia/Carniola , the Freising Manuscripts. Differentiation of southwest slavic occured much earlier than depicted. Ancient Slovene was present after Magyar migration between the early westslavic continuum.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Ай бұрын
Thank you
@adamdopke178
@adamdopke178 2 жыл бұрын
Pomerenian today is actually kashebian anyway nice video and job well done my friend.
@user-ok9dc5qt8d
@user-ok9dc5qt8d Жыл бұрын
kaszëbskô mòwa
@SornGeorge
@SornGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
Great work - small correction: Pomeranian should be noted as Kashubian. Source: a Kashubian.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@juniorcrusher2245
@juniorcrusher2245 2 жыл бұрын
It's a dialect
@SornGeorge
@SornGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
@@juniorcrusher2245 your point is?
@juniorcrusher2245
@juniorcrusher2245 2 жыл бұрын
@@SornGeorge the videos talking about languages. Kashubian is not a language
@SornGeorge
@SornGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
@@juniorcrusher2245 so you take issue with Pomeranian being depicted in the video or with me noting this is Kashubian? Also, what makes you feel you need to let the world know about your opinions? Are you a linguist or a Kashubian?
@mihanich
@mihanich 3 жыл бұрын
Don't look at comments. You were warned.
@user-fi4yd2kf6g
@user-fi4yd2kf6g Жыл бұрын
ok but question remains - where did the slavs come from?
@danovak556
@danovak556 2 жыл бұрын
My grand grandmother was able to Speak old church slavic
@grzegorzracicki756
@grzegorzracicki756 4 жыл бұрын
Now Berlin but in the past Kopanica - slavic village.
@unikitty5131
@unikitty5131 4 жыл бұрын
Berlin is correct in Slavic language, it is a Slavic town name.
@alexander6108
@alexander6108 4 жыл бұрын
Copnic was a Village. It was not Berlin. Brlo was the word for Berlin.
@noaoah3662
@noaoah3662 3 жыл бұрын
That’s quite interesting, there is a neighborhood in Berlin called Köpenick. Im assuming it was a village which was integrated into Berlin, but Berlin had its own name like other comments have said
@dnrnfnfcmdndnddj2968
@dnrnfnfcmdndnddj2968 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and Brandenburg was called Branibor. In serbia we still have some village names like kopanica and branibor. We serbs came from that region and there are still lusatian serbs living there. They speak sorbian
@INecr0
@INecr0 3 жыл бұрын
- The name Berlin has its roots in the language of West Slavic inhabitants of the area of today's Berlin, and may be related to the Old Polabian stem berl-/birl- ("swamp"). - Dresden's name etymologically derives from Old Sorbian Drežďany, meaning people of the forest.
@markymarco2570
@markymarco2570 3 жыл бұрын
01:14 Atilla clearly helped the spread.
@bossschmutzfink9865
@bossschmutzfink9865 3 жыл бұрын
Avars
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
it seem like attila was Slavic or official historician lie and Slavic had way bigger teritory
@danilapolesciuk4316
@danilapolesciuk4316 Жыл бұрын
At that point Attila was dead for like a century
@markymarco2570
@markymarco2570 Жыл бұрын
@@danilapolesciuk4316 means nothing
@outerspace83
@outerspace83 8 ай бұрын
I only came upon your channel recently and already made a similar comment on the languages of Europe video, but I think you are underestimating the Slavicness of Austria in the early middle ages. In the 5-600s, Slavs became a majority in roughly 2/3 of the area - to this day, there are clear examples of Slavic derived placenames dotted over all of Carinthia, Styria, Lower Austria as well as East Tyrol (Lienz District), Southeast Salzburg state (Tamsweg District), and Southeast Upper Austria (Kirchdorf and Steyr districts). It's very difficult to make a good timeline for the germanization of these areas but similar to Eastern Germany it was a process that must have taken centuries. My guess is it probably didn't start for real until the 800s and probably wasn't completed until maybe 1050 for Lower Austria, 1200 for Styria, and is still ongoing in Carinthia.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Indeed there was a more massive Slavic settlement in part of present-day Austria. Maybe I'll fix it in a future remake
@fordruzvelt675
@fordruzvelt675 4 жыл бұрын
please do about the history of the Turkic language! Thank you!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try to make it soon
@fordruzvelt675
@fordruzvelt675 4 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas excellent😊👍
@nikitospilesos3869
@nikitospilesos3869 Жыл бұрын
Hm, it means that Ukrainian and Russian are not the same, right? Yeah, they were East - Slavic but according to the map Russian appeared earlier and not from Ruthenian as Ukrainian language. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@user-im1rk3gm8z
@user-im1rk3gm8z Жыл бұрын
At a time when nations did not yet exist, the proto-Ukrainian and proto-Russian peoples were separated by a natural barrier - a large forest with swamps, so due to poor communication, their languages were created separately.
@urka666
@urka666 Жыл бұрын
What language appeared earlier is a silly question. Languages change over time and Russian that appears on this map in 1500s wasn't the same as it is today. All modern East Slavic languages are equally related to East Slavic language. Ukrainian / Russian / Belorussian split has to do with political divisions of Russia, Poland and Lithuania. After the Mongol invasion many Russian principalities in the south and west became part of the Grand duchy of Lithuania (split into Russian and Ruthenian). Galicia (modern western Ukraine) became part of Poland. Later Lithuania entered a personal union with Poland and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was born. Within that commonwealth modern Ukrainian territories of Lithuania were passed to the Kingdom of Poland (split of Ruthenian into Ukrainian and Belorussian). All these changes are very gradual and complicated however and the map doesn't really reflect it. It's very basic / schematic. The people speaking the Ruthenian language would probably just tell you that they are speaking Russian. And people speaking East Slavic would tell you they're speaking Slavic or Russian. All these would be different from modern Russian of course. The names on the map are just historiographic terms.
@nikitospilesos3869
@nikitospilesos3869 Жыл бұрын
@@urka666 Okay thanks for your essay but I didn't ask what language appeared earlier.
@user-ok9dc5qt8d
@user-ok9dc5qt8d Жыл бұрын
Ruthenia-c'est la Russie en langue Latine !!!!!!
@yutolifo3811
@yutolifo3811 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ok9dc5qt8d Да, ты прав, что Рутенией звали Русь, но тут имелось ввиду русинский язык (Ruthenian language). Эх, жаль, что мы не узнаем, на каком языке говорили простые люди в Киевской Руси, ведь писали на церковном, который является искусственным и не был похож на разговорный.
@vencitumbaka7888
@vencitumbaka7888 3 жыл бұрын
Slavic Macedonian came into existence only in 1944. It is Bulgarian language as a base written on a Serbian typewriter with selective replacement of words, letters, imported elements just to make it sound distinct from Bulgarian.
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
Alexander of Macedon: i am joke to you?
@crimsonfarts6856
@crimsonfarts6856 2 жыл бұрын
@@881terror Alexander is greek
@mareksagrak9527
@mareksagrak9527 2 жыл бұрын
@@881terror Do not mistake the ancient Macedonian language (which was a close relative of ancient Greek and dissapeared slowly together with hellenisation of original Macedonians) with the modern, Slavic Macedonian language. They have absolutely nothing in common beside the name, even the teritorries they were spoken are mainly different. -_-
@clouds-rb9xt
@clouds-rb9xt Жыл бұрын
Why does polish influence over Ruthenian suddenly end before 1700? Wasn't the PLC still around then?
@bloodkelp
@bloodkelp 11 ай бұрын
I guess its because cossacks rebelled so polacks had to soften their grip on them
@kosa9662
@kosa9662 11 ай бұрын
@@bloodkelp PLC was too decentralised to impose languange on others.
@Turagrong
@Turagrong 3 жыл бұрын
2:09 No OCS in Bohemia or at least Moravia?
@imaginaryturkey2561
@imaginaryturkey2561 3 жыл бұрын
What
@polmaclin3019
@polmaclin3019 2 жыл бұрын
The history of the Slavs before their baptism began is a mystery, shrouded in darkness, and the history of the emergence of the Slavic language and its division into Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, Czech and others is generally unknown.The author you guess on the coffee grounds.
@ivydark9741
@ivydark9741 3 ай бұрын
We have a clear Indian influence in some words and ornaments, yet the mythology is similar to Scandi.
@dindondindonovich
@dindondindonovich 3 жыл бұрын
I seem The areal of "vyatishs" is not included to "East-Slavic" in this map.
@TheStraightEdger
@TheStraightEdger 3 жыл бұрын
East slavs spoke one language - Old Russian or Old East Slavic. There were almost no differences in east slavic dialects, except Old Novgorod.
@Andreeeeeerrr
@Andreeeeeerrr 3 жыл бұрын
Well, as I know Vyatishs isn't Slavic languages, it's Finno-ugric. But people what spoke at this language was very integrated in society of Kievan Rus'
@TheBobVova
@TheBobVova 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andreeeeeerrr Vyatishs is Slavic tribe.
@mihanich
@mihanich 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andreeeeeerrr does вятичи sound to you like a finno-ugric tribe?
@mihanich
@mihanich 3 жыл бұрын
It's included, you can see the volga-oka basin turning blue during the 10th century. That's roughly where vyatiches lived. The problem is that their settlements start to appear there in 7th century, not 10th like shown here
@tereska8272
@tereska8272 4 жыл бұрын
Silesian: Am I a joke to you
@stefankowalski347
@stefankowalski347 4 жыл бұрын
Nie słyszałem nigdy nikogo mówiącego w tym języku, nawet na Śląsku. Ja sam mieszkam na Śląsku i nie znam żadnego słowa po śląsku
@Pingijno
@Pingijno 4 жыл бұрын
@@stefankowalski347" Nie ma czarnych łabędzi, bo żadnego nie widziałem "
@stefankowalski347
@stefankowalski347 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pingijno Dobrze, w takim razie poprawię
@peter-w
@peter-w 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from a silesian living in germany 🙋‍♂️
@tonit4233
@tonit4233 4 жыл бұрын
Not bigger joke than Macedonian that's for sure
@debnadaebna9981
@debnadaebna9981 3 жыл бұрын
"Let foreigners, out of ignorance or negligence, take little care of them, but it is unforgivable for us to forget the Bulgarians from whose hands we received baptism, who have taught us to write, to read, in whose vernacular is our worship, in whose language for the most part we wrote almost to the time of Lomonosov, whose cradle is connected by inseparable knots with the cradle of the Russian people and so on. " Yuri Venelin on Bulgarian history in 1829 --- In his article Protection of the Old Bulgarian Language (1990) Prof. Dr. Otto Kronsteiner from Austria writes: “The Old Bulgarian language has become the cultural language of all Orthodox Slavs. It was the first state literary language in Medieval Europe long before the emergence of European literary languages ​​- German, French, Italian, English, Russian "and Serbian inclusive, of course! --- "When Greek Christianity was officially accepted in Russia at the end of the 10th century, its distributors in Russia were mainly Bulgarian clergy. In this way, the Bulgarian language became the basis of the Russian Church and Russian literary language. " M. Fassmer, quoted by M. Popov, The Bulgarian People between the European Races and Peoples, Sofia, Court Printing House, 1938; “The influence of the Bulgarian language was felt extremely strongly by the Russians and Serbs until the 18th century, this influence weakened only in the 19th century, when vernacular elements entered the literature of these two peoples and replaced the influence of the old church influences. These influences were especially strong because the Russian Church Slavonic language also shows too much Bulgarian, and partly directly Eastern Bulgarian elements. М. Фасмер, Die Bulgarische Literatur im Zeitalter des Zaren Simeon und ihre Bedeutung für die Orhodoxe Slawenwelt, Berlin, 1929 --- "The orthography of our (ie Russian, b.a.) manuscripts from the middle of the XV century is a reflection of the orthography of the South Slavic (more precisely of the Middle Bulgarian) manuscripts. It is clear that between the middle of the XIV and the middle of the XV century, the Russian script came under the very strong influence of the South Slavic script and ultimately submitted to this influence. " Alexey Sobolevsky --- "Bulgaria in the 15th century as a whole is this huge center through which the Byzantine influence in Serbia and Russia passes, a center through which this influence gets its Slavic color, strengthened in the numerous translations, which reflect the written reform of Patriarch Euthymius." Dmitry Likhachev
@misterpikes7600
@misterpikes7600 2 жыл бұрын
What does that mena ? That Russians used the Kyrilic alphabet after Bulgarians ?
@crimsonfarts6856
@crimsonfarts6856 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterpikes7600 borrowed the alphabet as well as Christianity from Bulgarians
@misterpikes7600
@misterpikes7600 2 жыл бұрын
@@crimsonfarts6856 Since both came to you from the Romans same could be said about you . No point taking pride from something you didnt create and someone also uses
@crimsonfarts6856
@crimsonfarts6856 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterpikes7600 Our alphabet was invented by greeco-born bulgarians and we got our religion from the Byzantiums
@misterpikes7600
@misterpikes7600 2 жыл бұрын
@@crimsonfarts6856 did i say something wrong ? dont think so
@user-uu9rj1tm1f
@user-uu9rj1tm1f 2 жыл бұрын
Shocking to see Germany speaking Slavic languages before 1000
@alexandermarkov300
@alexandermarkov300 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot Old Novgorodian (North-East Slavic), which separated from Old Russian quite early, probably before the 9th century.
@user-ok9dc5qt8d
@user-ok9dc5qt8d Жыл бұрын
До конца 15 века существовал. Уже во время Ливонской войны 1558-1583 гг. вышел из употребления.
@alexandermarkov300
@alexandermarkov300 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ok9dc5qt8d Спасибо, кеп.
@TheAwesomeGingerGuy
@TheAwesomeGingerGuy 3 жыл бұрын
what are your sources for all these videos? they’re good but how can we know this is all true?
@russianwithrussian
@russianwithrussian 3 жыл бұрын
No one can know it for sure. :)
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
@@russianwithrussian History is written by winners. Today winners are anglosaxons but not for long chinenes incoming
@c4ketown675
@c4ketown675 Жыл бұрын
But what happened BEFORE this?? Where does Slavic come from
@eugen-gelrod-filippov
@eugen-gelrod-filippov 3 жыл бұрын
Надо было показать с разделения балтослаянских языков
@user-ok9dc5qt8d
@user-ok9dc5qt8d Жыл бұрын
Ну тогда уж Славяно-балто-германской общности.
@abloodorange5233
@abloodorange5233 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done. It's interesting that Crimea and southern Ukraine were not Slavic until 1770 therish. What were they before? Turkic I am guessing? Or something else?
@thenewparallel
@thenewparallel 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Crimea was Turkic
@thenewparallel
@thenewparallel 4 жыл бұрын
The southern Ukraine was almost deserted, it was called Dikoe Pole (Wild Field)
@abloodorange5233
@abloodorange5233 4 жыл бұрын
Okay cool
@TheOlgaSasha
@TheOlgaSasha 4 жыл бұрын
Did you heard something about Crimean Goths?
@JurzGarz
@JurzGarz 3 жыл бұрын
They spoke Crimean Tatar, a Turkic language.
@oleksandrvershygora3346
@oleksandrvershygora3346 4 ай бұрын
Wrong maps. Where are Slavic languages in Carpathian bassin? They were there up to XIX century.
@881terror
@881terror 2 жыл бұрын
2 questions what about slavic languages before 50 A.D. and Czech-Slovak language not existed it was Bohemian= Czech and Sloviene= Slovak + Moravian + Panonian Slavs
@viterzbayraku
@viterzbayraku 3 жыл бұрын
Like for Ruthenian.
@gordonpi8674
@gordonpi8674 10 ай бұрын
Good to see the real picture of today Slavic languages, especially the Balkan Slavic languages that include Serbo-Croatian, Macedonian(slavic), Bulgarian and Slovenian, although Slovenian is closer to the western slavic family of languages.
@stkosta2482
@stkosta2482 2 жыл бұрын
Turkic people: conquering ancient Indo-European (Scythian lands) Slavs: *And i took this personally*
@VuleProductions
@VuleProductions 2 жыл бұрын
They came to modern day Austria lel
@sahincelikkol8569
@sahincelikkol8569 4 жыл бұрын
These guys expanded like crazy
@fidenemini111
@fidenemini111 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean like cancer?
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 3 жыл бұрын
@Русский парень No, he has something against expansion. So do you. I bet you wouldn't like some other nation expand over your land, force you speak another language etc.
@OrkosUA
@OrkosUA 3 жыл бұрын
@Русский парень dude, he merely expressed that he was excited to see how fast and far did slavic people spread, he has nothing against slavs, relax.
@ShadowStormCZ
@ShadowStormCZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ionbrad6753 well thats what germans and austrians done to us....
@konradkurland5090
@konradkurland5090 3 жыл бұрын
@Русский парень Have you got something against cancer? :)
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