History of WWI Primer 015: Austrian Steyr-Pieper Model 1909 Pistol Documentary

[@isoto0224]

Today I finally obtain my Steyr 1909/1934 with original holster! When I saw this firearm I knew I had to jump on the opportunity to purchase it. Thanks for the video; you're information on this pistol is very helpful.

[@guysommers2949]

This pistol came to me from my wife's father who is now almost 90 years old. It was given to him by his father around 1948-1949. He was the chief of police of Grand Prairie, Texas, now a large suburban area of Dallas. He was responding to an armed bank robbery around 1942-1943 and one of the robbers began shooting at him with this pistol. He shot the guy in the leg and and always said this was the only time he ever had to shoot(at) anyone in his 40 year career as a policeman. He kept the gun as a souvenir but didn't know much about it, nor did his son, my father-in-law.He was a very large and strong man who was able to handle himself generally without needing a weapon. The marks on the left side of the barrel:PAT.No9379-G5u.No25025-06. TheG could be a C. There is also the number 21. at the base of the barrel and a symbol I can't read (maybe a symbol for Oesterreich or Austria?). There is the number 45861 above the trigger guard. The mark on the right side of the barrel: PAT.( Swiss cross)No40335. There is also a symbol at the base of the barrel looking something like Nv stylized. The pistol is definitely the 1932 or 1934 improved Steyr-Pieper model of the original 1909 design. I have assumed that it was a "war trophy" from WW2 either brought here by the bank robber or someone from whom he obtained it. I don't know if it was declared when brought to the U.S. but I don't think so. Anyway, it's a good story and I swear I didn't make it up! Guy

[@Candrsenal]

+guy sommers Dang, that little thing was busy!

[@gavindavies793]

23:27 "now we're out of World War 1".... Oh the naivety of times gone by! Watching these early episodes again at the end of 2021, and the innocence of that little comment made me chuckle 😁

[@LordChaosus]

I have a Model 1934 of that pistol. I get the oddest looks from folks at the range when I shoot it. Almost as many as when I take out my Spanish FR8 Mauser.

[@Candrsenal]

+LordChaosus Your range has no taste

[@fuzer909]

My buddy's uncle has 1934 model too. Love to shoot it, prefer it to most small arms.

[@williamprince1114]

another well done episode. I really enjoy both the content and the manner you both present it. Educational and entertaining.

[@maewinchester2030]

+William Prince Thank you! After much trial and error we've found this format to create the best flow for content.

[@adamjarvis9137]

We really appreciate the "detail and nuance." Thank you for another wonderful episode.

[@maewinchester2030]

+Adam Jarvis Glad you like it!

[@hedgehog3900]

Ah,you made a hard days work into a relaxed evening.Wishing all the team a restful holiday.

[@Candrsenal]

+Hedge hog Happy holidays! Glad to hear the day is done!

[@crunchysuperman]

And that's why I love early semi-autos - persnickety weirdness that doesn't make a lot of sense today. Another great episode, guys! Looking forward to more.

[@Candrsenal]

+crunchysuperman Design evolution at work

[@pricklydingus8604]

Always giddy to see an episode of Primer in my sub-box. Good work as always!

[@Candrsenal]

+Eric Brown GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL

[@ZGryphon]

Oh dear, another obscure .32. (By which I mean: I love hearing about obscure .32s, except I always want to buy them as soon as I do. :)

[@Candrsenal]

+ZGryphon Sorry!

[@realmenshoot3085]

ZGryphon That's the best thing about 32s. Most of them are cheap enough to be affordable. I just found a Savage 1907 for $350.

[@pshabino]

Another great episode, makes me want to add more .32s to the collection. I popped a link to your channel up on Gunboards I suspect people there may already have found your channel.

[@Candrsenal]

+MadMed I think many people would prefer we just hit the highlights but lots of the guns have less-told stories worth repeating!

[@pshabino]

also +1 for the blooper reel

[@bluemtoo]

Another great video! Thanks for the time and effort you guys put into sharing what is obviously a passion for you.

[@Candrsenal]

+bluemtoo Thanks for watching!

[@taofledermaus]

Ooooh, HS camera perhaps? In a month or so I'd be happy to run another promo for your channel and try to steer some more viewers your way. Does the magazine need to be in the pistol for it to shoot? I don't really understand the two position mag deal if you are loading a round at a time in it.

[@Candrsenal]

+TAOFLEDERMAUS That's my thought as well. Why not just... not load the magazine..? Thanks man, might want to wait until we get through some of these planned rifles and MGs

[@taofledermaus]

They definitely over-thunk that one. Whenever you are up to it, I'll be more than pleased to promote the crap out of your channel again.

[@nexviper]

My initial thought too, and leaving the magazine in must run the slight risk of accidentally pushing it in and making it semi again. Not a problem if you are being sensible and safe but after a long time of expecting single shot, or with someone new to the gun, the shooter could mess up.

[@christianelund5841]

+TAOFLEDERMAUS the idea with the two position magazine is the same as the magazine cutoff on the rifles at the time. With the pistol in single shot mode you can keep a constant rate of fire for as long as you have cartridges handy, whereas if you use the magazine you'd get 7-8 quick shots. but then you'd have a long delay while you remove the magazine, refill it one cartridge at a time (which takes even longer than dropping it into the chamber), and reinsert it in the gun. (the idea of carrying multiple preloaded magazines is quite recent. a pistol would usually just come with one or two magazines, which you'd fill up with loose cartridges when needed) So with the magazine in the cut-off position you'd actually have a higher rate of fire over a long period. Then if you suddenly need to fire rapidly you could slap the magazine in, and use the gun in true semi automatic mode.

[@SoYFooD2]

+TAOFLEDERMAUS u add a lot of mass to keep is more stable en keep the feel more like u normally have on a first shot

[@thinman8621]

Fascinating history. Small arms development was complicated.

[@emadeltahawi]

مسدس جدي رحمة الله عليه ولا يوجد في مصر عموما من يمتلك هذا السلاح الرائع غير جدي فقط

[@freddieellis8449]

I must confess something, Othias...... As soon as you introduced the pistol and demonstrated the tipping barrel, I made a very surprised and extremely girly "OOOOOOOOOOH!!!" Sound! Hahahaha Just like to say that I LOVE the channel! It's nice to see someone who has a great eye for detail and history! I find every episode absolutely fascinating. It's also nice to hear May's (hope I got the correct spelling!) opinions and that all of these weapons are also properly demonstrated in shooting as well as just exposition. Both are equally interesting to me. I also have to confess an extreme amount of jealousy as I am in the UK and I could never hope to own a working example of many of the weapons you feature, particularly the pistols. Anyway, thank you for all the work you guys do and I wish you all the best going forward. I am very much looking forward to seeing May's opinion on the infamous Chauchat!!!! I'm sure that will be a highly anticipated episode!

[@Rinasoir]

Another great episode folks, have a Merry Christmas.

[@Candrsenal]

+Peter Larkin Thanks and Happy New Year

[@VFRSTREETFIGHTER]

Great video, cant wait for the next one and Merry Christmas.

[@Candrsenal]

+PBRStreetGang Thanks you too!

[@ypop417]

Merry Christmas Othias and Mae! Great Video as always!

[@Candrsenal]

+Y Pop Thanks! Merry Chrimmas!

[@McBearGrylls]

Oh thank heavens for this, I've been watching Neon Genies Evangelion for a day straight, I needed a break from that train.

[@maewinchester2030]

+McBearGrylls I was just talking to Othais the other day about hopping on that train again! I say that and I'm still only halfway through Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, need to start what I've finished.

[@NuclearAlchemist]

I haven't watched my collection in about a year. I keep wanting to, but last time I played a drinking game. Drink every time Shinji whines. It didn't end well.

[@maewinchester2030]

NuclearAlchemist Lol! That is a dangerous game.

[@McBearGrylls]

+NuclearAlchemist You'd probably go through a bottle with End of Evangelion.

[@NuclearAlchemist]

You have no idea. Try it sometime. Although, first work on your tolerance.

[@mayagrafix]

Like-wise, Merry xmas + Happy new year to you and Mae.

[@maewinchester2030]

+Rafael Cervera Thanks! Same to you! :)

[@anchorbait6662]

I can tell when all these episodes were filmed. All you have to do is measure the undamaged fingernail growth on O's left Index. I feel like Sherlock amidst the curious case of the great bearded pistol genie as I'm snuggled on my couch watching this on my glass phone picture viewer

[@piatpotatopeon8305]

I can't stop imagining the pistol wearing a tiny hat that tips with the barrel. It's tipping it's hat to you, and all your work.

[@strangefolkprimary4837]

Just picked up a cheap Steyr Hahn, excited to see Mae's opinion of it!

[@Candrsenal]

+Latiqua LaTaytay Soon enough!

[@hansstrouf]

The Bayard 1908 is a semi-automatic pistol designed by the Belgian Bernard Clarus in 1908 as a short-range self-defense handgun. The Bayard 1908 was sold on the civilian market, chambered in .25 ACP, .32 ACP and .380 ACP. It was produced at the Belgian factory Anciens Etablissements Pieper from 1908 to the end of the 1930s. Semi-automatic pistol Bayard Pieper model 1908 caliber 380 ACP or 9 Browning Court Fixed sight pocket weapon Good condition

[@AntiAnathema]

Man .32 ACP is everywhere, it needs a nerf. P.S. Happy Holidays

[@Candrsenal]

+Geo Wu Happy Chrimmas!

[@thewildgeesecod]

+Geo Wu ban .32 ACP for gun EVO

[@BicyclesMayUseFullLane]

+diego tapia move to Canada, .32 is banned here.

[@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM]

32 PISTOLs specifically. You can get skorpions in 32acp cos it's legally a rifle. Don't question it.

[@zman1508]

Loving all the little 32's

[@Candrsenal]

+zman1508 Wanna play some game later?

[@caseyplunkett6083]

Big Fan of Mae !

[@thurin84]

awesome as always!

[@chasetower6773]

Thanks again

[@willie_brydon]

Just got my poster today! It looks awesome!

[@Candrsenal]

+mrPhoeskstra Happy to hear it!

[@maewinchester2030]

+mrPhoeskstra Nice!

[@nicholasford4820]

Awesome video!

[@Candrsenal]

+Nicholas Ford no u

[@RatTalisman]

Nerded out about this in the Minute of Mae exerpt of this episode, but it's interesting enough I'll post it here as well. The smaller, Belgian version of this was used in the animated pilot of Lackadaisy. This can be confirmed by the referenced 6 round capacity, several shots of the silhouette, and the fact that every gun featured in the episode was based off a real firearm from the era (M1911, BAR, Schofield, and Thompson, in addition to the mentioned Pieper.)

[@BS-in4kb]

hi, firstly: watched this vid on xmas eve and sweetened the evening right before dinner. secondly: mae was quite ... i do not know whether it is xmas eve or so, but ... just made even more fun to see/her talk about the shooting experience. thirdly: it always makes me nervous seeing someone weaving around with guns even i truly know they're safe. fourthly: in my opinion, the complicated names were not really butchered, but Pieper... more like "peep" instead of "pipe" for the first sillable.

[@BS-in4kb]

do not get me wrong, point three should not be a harsh complain, as it may sound, just unusual for me :)

[@Candrsenal]

+Be St Thanks for the compliments! We're obviously moving the piece around a lot and I get that. But we do keep them pointed in safe directions despite being unloaded. The cameras are often unmanned but even so you'll rarely see the muzzle. Instead you'll notice we mostly maintain a "lock" on a plane just in front of where we're sitting.

[@DerNutzer8]

+C&Rsenal (same Acc [Be St], different device) I never doubt that, believe me. I was just trained/teached - well - not do move a gun much and in spite of having just many pieces of metal which do not do anything unless you want it to (like the P38 from the Bundeswehr: 8 warning shots and and aimed throw). And yeah, I admit, that I may have sounded rude or so, did not mean it that way. I see a streched finger as well, so nothing dangerous there. Just an uncomfortable feeling about that. Everything else was good and the vid, yeah, really good. I mean, sometimes i am unused to the switch of perspective when Mae is in the vids and both of you are talking - like an interview - about that particular piece and I view it in a certain angle. Well, just my personal opinion which certainly does not say the vid were bad or so. Really like them.

[@monkeyabattoir8501]

Got a 1910 model today.. weird but so cool. mine doesn't have a slot for the spring assist .

[@demos113]

Merry Xmas to the team. :)

[@Candrsenal]

+demos113 Woop!

[@maewinchester2030]

+demos113 Merry Chirstmas to you too!

[@JasonOlshefsky]

Very interesting and informative video-I've heard good things about you folks and, picking this video at random, it looks to be true. One thing you might want to try: when you cut from one camera to the other, cheat the audio a little. Like when you cut to Mae disagreeing noting how she didn't care for firing the gun (15:25 or so), switch to Mae for "favorite shooter to date" with that audio over her video so she can immediately respond, "no no no..." It would tighten up the video and make it look more natural.

[@Candrsenal]

+Jason Olshefsky I can give that a try!

[@edwardrubin834]

That's the first and so far only pistol I've seen with a magazine cutoff. Interestingly Steyr still uses that two position magazine catch on the Steyr Scout Rifle which may be the last rifle design with a magazine cutoff function,

[@jeffreyplum5259]

The pistol had was effectively, a magazine disconnect. Single loading the barrel, then firing the full magazine, might have been a feature. The -34 version might have been a much nicer piece. It is rather like the modded Ross mk 3 (short) .

[@FirstSpaceLord]

Has anybody ever seen that indicator pin in real live ? can´t find a image of it

[@RabidMortal1]

You speculate that the recoil would be more manageable with a heavier spring....that prompts a general philosophical question on all reviews of old gun: how well can we truly judge the shooting characteristic of any century-old gun, especially when it comes to questions of springs and/or part durability? (Another excellent video BTW)

[@Candrsenal]

+RabidMortal1 True, the spring could have aged poorly but given the near-mint condition I don't think it was terribly reduced in strength. Although, you are right... we can never have them "factory original." Such a shame!

[@RabidMortal1]

+C&Rsenal Oh, I'm sure the spring was probalby in mint condition too. However, it had still been (somewhat) compressed inside the gun a long time. My understanding (which could be wrong) is that while coil springs don't loose their *rate* as they age, they can change in their dimension (ie, they compress)--that why bed springs "wear out". To be clear I'm not finding fault with this or any other video (they're all top notch!), only pointing out that the age of the components involved could affect our present day impression of how a mechanical object was supposed to function when new.

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

@@RabidMortal1 actually springs wear out from changing compression more than being held compressed. A closed switchblade doesn't damage it's spring, yet bed springs get messed up rather quick. It's the repeated changing in their state that damages them. Same is true of leaving mags loaded.

[@isoto0224]

Can you guys do a episode with the pieper bayard 1908 pistol?

[@Astandane]

Lovely looking pistol.

[@terryyocumiii9645]

Its lovely, and I'd love to have one.

[@Cro1977]

Merry Crismas & happy new year from Danmark, thanks for a great channel. Will there be a combilation and compare about all the 32 pistols?

[@Candrsenal]

+Caspar Olsson Well we have to ship some home but I am thinking a scaled poster might be nice

[@reikyfoxxe1847]

Theres a website/app called Gemr that has a militaria section. You can read up on it better at their end. Basically you can post your collections in playlists

[@Candrsenal]

+Reiky Foxxe Pretty neat idea. I think a lot of US gun owners would consider that a defacto registry these days though.

[@skywrecker]

For some reason the barrel of that gun seems strange to me i dont know why anyway great series im enjoying it very much

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

+skywrecker Perhaps it's the low barrel with the recoil spring above it that throws you? That arrangement looks weird if you are used to modern pistols. Is there any pistol currently in production with a low barrel like that?

[@Adamant_Consternation]

+Blahorga Slisk The Chiappa Rhino and Mateba Model 6 Unica and 2006M come to mind right off the bat. Albeit those are revolvers.

[@skywrecker]

Blahorga Slisk your probably right, it just looks off to me

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Adamant Consternation You are right about both of those, but only the Chiappa is currently in production as Mateba shut down in 2005, and I was thinking of automatic pistols. The under barrel design is interesting, and not always seen as a positive thing. In 1956 the International Shooting Union added the following to their rule book: “The axis of a gun barrel shall not be lower than the upper part of the shooter’s wrist.” This was a response to the MC-3 pistol that was used to break a number of world records. It's interesting that from it's introduction in 1951 to 1955 only 14 of these pistols were produced by Tula. Between 1956 and 1960 they sold 111 of these pistols even though they were banned from all international pistol competitions. One last pistol was made in 1965 and that was the last MC-3 produced by Tula.

[@Adamant_Consternation]

Blahorga Slisk I seem to remember reading about that awhile back. Thanks for sharing!

[@jacktheaviator4938]

I've ran across this pistol mentioned in SS service during WW2. Private purchase I am assuming. At least one example was captured during WW2 by an American soldier. Legacy Collectables did a video with a veteran's bring back collection that included one.

[@tombats6428]

I have a beretta tomcat, tip up barrel and no extractor, but sa/da.

[@robertpatter5509]

Jeepers . Piepers. Where did you get that barrel? Pieper 1908 .25 acp is pretty cool too

[@larryg3695]

Great videos, love your stuff. Would love to see a brief overview of all the rifles on the wall behind you. Do you have a DSM 34 by any chance? Keep'em coming!

[@Candrsenal]

+Capt Kirk No, just a KKW

Did you say you went through two firing pins? I can't imagine Pieper firing pins are easy to come by.

[@Candrsenal]

+Jay Yagebu We found a great guy on eBay to make us some. He put some extra love in the last one to keep it from shearing.

[@farmall4007]

What modern shells will work in a model 1920 N.Pieper 25 cal. pistol?

[@carlosmonzon2595]

Hola , yo tengo una steyr pero no tiene un seguro como la que muestran ustedes , está pistola era de mi abuelo y nunca la ocupe , estoy buscando ese calibre para ocuparía y saber si funciona

[@mattdickson2]

imagine this design in .38 caliber but with the 1909-34 updates. It would be a great military service pistol even now.

[@Candrsenal]

+Matt Dickson I think by that point it ma need an locked breech

[@nexviper]

Are there any plans for the posters to continue to be available? I presume ones from smaller runs or individual prints would cost more but life got in the way and I missed the indiegogo.

[@Candrsenal]

+nexviper Sure! Our printer is taking a week vacation in the woods but after the new year they will be rolled into the regular shop.

[@ADHR26]

Wouldn't dropping the mag to the first notch be essentially the same as taking it out altogether, since at the first notch it can't load nothing round?

[@Candrsenal]

+ADHR26... sort of... If you have one hung in the well it won't drop through that way though... Also, it's unnerving to cycle with a loaded mag when you want an unloaded gun.

[@trailduster6bt]

Off topic question: I have an S&W M1917 revolver that has been parkerized, do you know how to determine whether it was parkerized by the military or by a civilian owner? If it is not an original military finish, I would like to blue it. Thanks

[@Candrsenal]

+trailduster6bt plenty were redone but I have never looked into how to tell military vs civilian. You could wait on me to get to the research phase of the 1917 revolver episode or take some pictures and ask for opinions on Gunboards. The latter would give you a broader and better perspective though

[@trailduster6bt]

I look forward to it, thanks

[@NuclearAlchemist]

I'm late watching this one. I should be ashamed of myself. I'm looking forward to the Steyr-Hahn.

[@maewinchester2030]

+NuclearAlchemist I'm looking forward to the Steyr-Hahn too. It's so neat!

[@knosis14]

anyone know a place with reliable replacement parts? im looking for the firing pin, maybe 2 in case, seems they break often : / and i need a Barrel Latch( current one seems to slide off sometimes) any suggestions?, thanks

[@Candrsenal]

+knosis14 Barrel latch I can't help with BUT I highly recommend Olof over at Deer Hollow Enterprises!

[@Legoapollo13]

Why does the gun resemble the kolibri a bit?

[@IntroSpectre6x3]

"...he founded the "Josef und Franz Werndl & Comp. Waffenfabrik und Sägemühle in Oberletten" (Josef and Franz Werndl & Partners Weapons Factory and Sawmill in Oberletten), from which later emerged the "Österreichische Waffenfabriksgesellschaft" (ŒWG, Austrian Arms-Manufacturing Company)..." In case anyone was curious what the name was that Othias may or may not have butchered. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_Mannlicher#History

[@Candrsenal]

+IntroSpectre6x3 Rofl, you got picked up by the spam filter for that one somehow...

[@IntroSpectre6x3]

C&Rsenal I'll accept it. ;D

[@MrMarinus18]

Are you also going to cover the standard Austrian rifle of ww1? I heard that it actually was pretty good. Another one I would love to see is the Nagant revolver of Russia. It's said to be very reliable which is surprising since it's quite complicated.

[@Candrsenal]

+marinus18 all WWI standard issues will be coverex

[@guysommers2949]

I have a 1934 version of the Steyr-Pieper 1908 model pocket pistol made in Switzerland ( Swiss mark is on pistol) and would like to know more about it. Where find info? Saw your nice video on older models.

[@Candrsenal]

+guy sommers Are you sure it's not just the Swiss patent mark they put on all of them after a certain date?

[@druisteen]

I heard than the german 32 acp doesn't work well on spanish pistol ( and french ammo doesn't worl well on german-Austrian pistol ) you have info about that ?

[@Candrsenal]

+druisteen The cartridges should be identical as far as I know. Now, in terms of wartime manufacture there may have been differences but I had not heard of this issue before. I can't imagine what the big difference would be.

[@druisteen]

C&Rsenal in a "poilus " memory book that was a problem of " rim " and give a bad extraction ( if i rememebr good 32 acp is semi-rimless ) The guy say that the german cartrige work bad on Ruby and the use of german ammo are a "problem "

[@Candrsenal]

druisteen hmm ofdd. It may just have been a personal experoence

[@druisteen]

yes ...just wanted to know more 100 years ago cartrige was not fully standardised and i think it's not again completely done

[@zman1508]

if possible I would like to see the malfunctions etc even if its in a separate less heavily edited video

[@Candrsenal]

+zman1508 I can definitely see about putting together bloopers but we lost both pins shooting off camera. Jay and I like to try stuff too!

[@theenhancer]

Will you guys consider trying to make a move to Full30 like your friends at Forgotten Weapons have?

[@Candrsenal]

+theenhancer We have been recommended to them but received no invite I am afraid. If the offer comes we would likely accept given the friendlier hosting environment, however, we are not inclined to produce exclusive content.

[@theenhancer]

C&Rsenal Their loss.

[@mattdickson2]

+C&Rsenal have you considered doing any collaboration with Forgotten Weapons so as to get access to some more guns and production equipment?

[@Candrsenal]

Matt Dickson I am afraid that with the geography we would spend more money getting together than I would save on equipment. Any collabs will be by opportunity for reasons other than savings

[@Jesses001]

Oh damn! I forgot to purchase one of those posters. I should had wrote myself a note.

[@Candrsenal]

+Jesse Sisolack Sorry! They'll get folded into the store in January.

[@Jesses001]

+C&Rsenal You have no reason to be sorry. I was the dummy that forgot to order one.

[@robp9444]

its in the details!! 1

[@Candrsenal]

+Rob P 2!

[@anson3413]

will you review m712 broomhandle

[@Candrsenal]

+Anson Abarca Perhaps some day but for now we are focused on WWI.

[@shindvarniss7807]

Will you do a video about RSC 1917?

[@Candrsenal]

+Shind Varniss As soon as we can source one that runs!

[@citamcicak]

If I could have just 1 pistol id probably want this one, especially the updated version from 1934.

[@Candrsenal]

+Mattilald an odd choice

[@citamcicak]

I like odd weapons in general :)

[@polishgangster9]

Hit the lever!

[@christhesmith]

"She just wouldn't stay awayyy!"

[@erzherzogvongreifenstein2652]

I am still wating for the great war special about the austrian firearms:/Is this weapon included in the video?

[@Candrsenal]

+Erzherzog von Greifenstein We did film it but we also filmed a bunch of .32's that never made the cut with the German edited show. So I'm unsure. The edited show has dragged because we had a delay in our dies/supplies for making 8x50mmR Austrian. If the weather holds we'll be filming the last shots tomorrow.

[@pattonkesselring4247]

Did you just quote theory of a deadman?

[@jrpgnation6375]

Damn nice gun

[@oranjid]

Sure there´d be better choices to take to a battle... but i am still not sure how well reliability can be judged on such an antique 100+year old gun. Even if they have been treated well, it is rather likely that none of these that are still around match original condition. Nice review and late thanks ^^ Did these compeat in any trials? Would they not have figured out if there was a serious problem with the firing pin?

[@Candrsenal]

+ranji kawanji No trials. Just raw adoption as a secondary. Most guns actually weather quite well.

[@dwightehowell8179]

The .32 needs to be modernized with a tad longer case and higher operating pressures.

[@Saya-fs1jo]

yes, a straight walled 9x19 oal rimless high pressure skimming 380acp/9x17mm muzzle energies or higher. ideal for a compact double stack double feed locked breech,

[@greydonstautzenberger3901]

Keep it up

[@InfBerBat143]

Important info: The magazine release must be held, then the magazine falls out.

[@coltmorse3906]

Like number 1 thousand!

[@bumpercoach]

what if youre pushing downward w/ your thumb to release the button push the tab? habits from current standards may not be the way to judge things from before

[@snowwhite7677]

The 1908 extractor famine was hard on Steyr...

[@Candrsenal]

werd

[@raphaelrochasantos28]

Eu tenho um dessa

[@Lomi311]

Man, the Austrians sure fielded a lot of different handguns. Most of the others would be higher on my list than this little guy.

[@davidbaize4825]

I have an American produced M91, Mosin Nagant, if you need

[@Candrsenal]

+David Baize Thank you but we luckily have the Mosin covered in house!

[@digilyd]

Picking a nit, but it is actually an important one. German Like most americans your reverse the position of e and i when the combination "ie" is used. It should be a long smiling "i", not a "ey", Pieper you pronounce like Peiper would pronounce and those are dissimilar words. Steyr however you get exactly right.

[@aries_9130]

Fantastic and interesting video, as always. Don't worry about the German pronounciation, it was totally understandable, at least for me. :) I can imagine how "Oesterreichische" is probably a bitch to say for you guys, haha :D. Especially with the umlaut.

[@Candrsenal]

+.rzr I have no idea what I'm doing and I keep getting yelled out.

[@aries_9130]

Hahaha xD don't worry, it's fine!

[@mattdickson2]

+C&Rsenal try pronouncing the German words as if you were saying them with a posh English gentry accent

[@mattdickson2]

+Matt Dickson it will help believe me

[@logitimate]

@@mattdickson2 I thought the secret was to see everything as if you were extremely angry. Or was that Chinese?

[@liamsmith882]

Magazine cutoff for the pistol so the rifle doesn't feel bad

[@fuzer909]

Thats when I reach for my Steyr, thats when everything goes mediocre.

[@yeungmankiu5539]

Probably the weirdest pistol on this channel.

[@Candrsenal]

+Yeung Man Kiu So far.. But don't worry. Austria-Hungary has a lot of weird guns

[@johnaffleck6572]

the good news about this pistol is that steel can be re-melted; so somebody can recycle it.

[@cleber44mag]

Wuhhhhhhh

[@AlbertShell]

I know you don't really care about pronunciation, but this one is super easy - if you see a German word that beginns with either ST or SP, it's pronounced SHT and SHP respectively, therefore it's not "Steyer", but "Shteyer".

[@Candrsenal]

+AlbertShell I care. I am just bad at it!

[@snowwhite7677]

Also Incredulous has been replaced/updated with: WTF!?

[@riserking8205]

I have this gun and i want to sell it

[@clayronso3932]

Let me add this to the list of firearms not to trust my life with.

[@Candrsenal]

+Clay Ronso So many fall on that list for so many years...

[@mattdickson2]

here is a link to a replacement firing pin on eBay. proof that this gun should remain on your list of guns never to trust with your life. m.ebay.com/itm/Firing-pin-for-Steyr-Pieper-1908-/251917272559?nav=SEARCH

[@lacombar]

Thanks... really thanks... I'm not gonna be able to wake-up tomorrow, and it's gonna be all your fault...

[@Candrsenal]

+lacombar I mean, it's only 25 minutes this time.

[@jyzow]

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