History of WWI Primer 037: Italian Beretta 1915 and 1917 Documentary

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
1915
Cartridge: 9mm Glisenti
Capacity: 7 rnds
Length: 6.7"
weight: 1.9 lbs
1917
Cartridge: .32acp
Capacity: 8 rnds
Length: 5.9"
weight: 1.25 lbs
Additional reading:
Italian Small Arms Of the First and Second World Wars
Ralph Riccio
Beretta Pistols The Ultimate Guide
JB Wood
Beretta The World's Oldest Industrial Dynasty
Marco Morin Robert Held
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[@AussieFanXCIV]

If y'all decide to make make another batch of t shirts you ought to make one with a design of Othias hip firing that MG08/15 with the phrase "War Were Declared"

[@Candrsenal]

ooooh

[@Tails794]

DO IT!

[@Snowman1510ify]

Checking in from the future, it was 50/50.

[@WildBillCox13]

" . . . and the weak point in the Italian military at that time was . . . its leadership." Another great post, you guys. Thanks for providing us with an invaluable archive of weapons history and development. And fun.

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks!

[@dobypilgrim6160]

Mae and the K31...I seem to do something like that every time I lay off shooting them for a while. I echo the approval of the new hairdo as well!

[@willianviana1646]

ótimos vídeos, parabéns e saudações do Brasil.

[@NeptuneBluez]

Cool, Mae is having a good time shooting this fine K31 produced in my home country - Switzerland. Watch out, Mae! The ejection on the K31 is quite strong as you may had noticed it. Will it be an upcoming episode? If so, I will be looking for it.

[@deepbludreams]

the K31, the rifle that has done nothing but spend it's time at the range and march around it's entire existence.

[@611_hornet5]

Well they did mention the Vetterli, and you have to think sooner or later they'll get around to the Model 1911 rifle.

[@Candrsenal]

Which one is that?

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

Did you use 9mm Glisenti in the 1915, or is it possible to light load regular 9x19 and safely use that?

[@Candrsenal]

Light loaded 9mm is glisenti essentially...

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Technically, it is safe to use underloaded 9x19 in the 1915. Glisenti ain't cheap these days, so I'm guessing they did that. I know a guy who's got 3 boxes of it and they're $65 a pop

[@SatanSupimpa]

The audio was a so small issue, but I appreciate the perfectionism.

[@Candrsenal]

Would have driven me crazy.

[@OldManMontgomery]

7.65x17mm Browning - .32 ACP in the United States - was designed close to the turn of the 20th Century by John Browning and quite popular. In European loadings, they would penetrate a helmet. I presume within typical handgun ranges. The power and recoil of the 7.65 also leant itself to use in small blowback pistols. Lastly, this was the pre - antibiotic era and even minor wounds could kill, eventually.

[@festerallday]

I like the 3D stuff for rifles. But I really enjoyed the actual scans overlayed for the pistols. It's nice to see real hardware

[@Candrsenal]

While neat, it was eating up 20 hours a week and I was pulling 70-90 hours to keep up. This is much easier. Now I'm only working 40-70...

[@jiramito1044]

Make an episode on M1935

[@aries_9130]

I feel kinda bad for laughing at Mae in the end. Really would've loved to see that in slow-mo LOL

[@Candrsenal]

I dont

[@aries_9130]

You're so mean. But I love it.

[@maewinchester2030]

You should've been there. Made everyone's day.

[@aries_9130]

If I could spend a day at the range with you guys, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Guess that won't happen any time soon, though, considering I live in Germany ^^.

[@ZucchiniSlayer]

Anyone have any experience on acquiring/loading for 9 glisenti? Recently acquired a 1915 and would love to get it running.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

www.grurifrasca.net/oldsite/Sito/Ricarica/pistole/9glisenti.html In italian, but the tables are easy to read. For historical autenticity, the Glisenti service bullets have always and only been 124-125gr truncated-cone FMJ.

[@Nicolidas]

Nice ! Look a little like a Mauser 1910/1914 !!

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Speaking to the 1915s heft, I had bought one with a 1911 once, and noticed how it was almost as heavy despite being half the size. That's blowback pistols for ya!

[@Candrsenal]

Brick!

[@Lomi311]

Mama Mia! That’s a spicy handgun!

[@Procket12]

The Italian Army is an odd duck. They had a .380 ACP pistol in WWII when everyone else had a more powerful handgun. They even held onto the M1934 all the way until the 90s when they adopted the Beretta 92FS while the Navy and by extension the Naval Infantry had adopted the M1951 when it was first introduced. Similar with the French Navy getting the good G2 version of the FAMAS while the Army kept the crummy F1 version.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

The Beretta 92 was adopted by the Italian Army in 1978. As usual, armies use their equipments until exaustion, and it needed time to reequip the entire Army, so there were still some Beretta 1934 in use in the '90s, but they were not common. The Italian Navy adopted a semiauto handgun first than the army too. The Mauser C96 in 1899 (another big gun). However, the Army switched from the 9mm Glisenti (not a 9mm luger, but a pretty powerful cartridge anyway) to the .380 ACP right from the experience of WWI. Back then, the handguns were used only, by the officers, by the infantrymen for guard duties, or for police duties. The Beretta 1934 was designed by request of the State Police, and was later adopted by the army too cause the Army officers ( that were the only ones that carried handguns into battles) preferred to have something lighter than the Beretta 1915 and 1923. For what was the use of the handguns on the field back then it was a rational decision. The Navy instead used handguns only for guard duties, so, having to equip ordinary infantrymen, a bigger caliber was favored. They (along with the State Police and the Carabinieri) adopted the M1951 as soon as it was ready for production.

[@Procket12]

Neutron Alchemist. You have a source on the adoption date?

[@Jack2Japan]

I wish you wouldn't play music during Mae's firing sequences because you can't clearly hear the sound of firing.

[@Anibal677]

I know is a stupid question, but What would happened if somebody load the model 1915 Beretta with 9mm Luger (parabellum) caliber? I know it woud damge the gun, but I noticed that the recoil spring is too heavy, would it help to avoid some damege of the 9mm Parabellum in it? (please forgive my bad English).

[@greydonstautzenberger3901]

Keep it up

[@elfinfluff]

Mae is a gi...?! I always thought she was just the neighborhood latchkey scamp hanging out with Crazy Old Man Othais, you know like Dennis the Menace, or Marty McFly. That stinger: obviously InRange needs to stop doing their silly little mud tests, and start up a series of, "will this throw casings into your face" tests.

[@Candrsenal]

This is fairly accurate

[@jameshealy4594]

I think we can all agree that the bang process is the most important process. ;)

[@Candrsenal]

I AM GOOD AT THE BANG PROCESS

[@pshabino]

Are the old school animations with the moving parts from the light box dead? Long live the light box!

[@Candrsenal]

I'm not even sure the episodes would have been on time without Bruno. Those 2D's took 20 hours a pop on an easy one and required dismantling the actual pieces. We put 70 hours prep into the Lewis Gun in 2D before abandoning it as impossible without a whole team. This is MUCH simpler and we have a volunteer working to see if they can be made available interactive online.

[@pshabino]

Totally understand it's a necessary change to make the show possible. Appreciate all the work you guys are putting into it. Just saying, dang the old animations had a cool look.

[@jmartin8665]

I have a 1917 are parts available for these I'm missing the saftey/ slide lock pin

[@VinnyS9143101982]

I'm left handed I THINK that safety would suit me because I THINK I can reach it with my left index finger

[@JoeDebono]

War were declared!

[@thesweatleaf]

Othais, what does your name mean?

[@Candrsenal]

Beardy fat guy

[@thesweatleaf]

C&Rsenal so telling ;) j/k I was looking it up... found Mattais but not Othais

[@deltavee2]

Watched the full show in Theatre mode, as usual. Mae get the last 40 seconds and _Jump to FULL SCREEN because reasons._ Her lack of sound track is irrelevant. Wasn't expecting Mae having to catch a released one with her face but she handled it well, natch. Fear not big O, I ran it at slowest possible speed numerous times with the mandatory amount of giggle we, fall about.

[@lasieboss703]

And that would be very simuler looking no 1922 often mistekenly called the 1519...... Wait what???

[@panzerabwerkanone]

Maybe Othias is the one who mistakenly calls it that when he meant "also called the model 1915"

[@RonJohn63]

6:49 Wasn't France screaming for guns?

[@Candrsenal]

military guns. If they were going to make military, might as well make it at home.

[@arnoldm1974]

May looked very nice today. Very pretty. Made Mathias look like a slob lol.

[@Candrsenal]

rude

[@Igor_TT]

Why arent there more British weapons?

[@evandaire1449]

To bother Lee enfield people probably XD

[@Igor_TT]

Probably like me 😭

[@jameshealy4594]

I'm sure they'll get there. As an Aussie I do have an interest in the Lee Enfield, but every episode is fascinating. Whatever order they get done in, I know I'll be watching every single one.

[@Candrsenal]

Got a Lee-Metford we can borrow? SMLE Mk III (no star, must have volley and cut-off, all millled parts original so no replacements) would be handy. Pile of unshaved webleys or a Self-Loader? (price range $2,500 and climbing) We are stuck with what can be afforded or loaned I'm afraid. Lots of British designs trend easily above $1,000 in value.

[@Igor_TT]

No SMLE in this country. I see one on your wall. I wouldnt mind if you make video with Mk III* in your hands

[@ItsBodin]

When are we going to get a russian rifle or handgun and on that why had the 1917 been the only American gun! Your from the south show some pride for your fellow southern men and he rifles they carried into battle!

[@Candrsenal]

pft, it's 2016. The US isn't in the war for another year.

[@Thatonedude227]

Kristobro98 The US wasn't a major power before WWI, so I'm guessing thats part of it.

[@ItsBodin]

HowJewDoin' no crap but we are talking world war 1 weapons. If i do recall correctly we had 1911's 1917's (speaking revolvers) Springfield 1903 (basically a Mauser). We had guns they could talk about including the ever loved BAR.

[@thurin84]

huba,huba,huba, yes mae IS most definitely a girl!

[@trenchfighter8778]

"Bang is this most important process" - Othais and Mae 2016

[@pd4165]

The Benny Hill was strong in this one.

[@blinkyoureyes1400]

Every time you say "War were declared" it reminds me of a Futurama episode were Fry and Bender enlist to get a military discount at a convenience store.

[@Candrsenal]

THEY STOLE IT FROM ME

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Everything in life should remind us of that show.

[@fien111]

I'm gonna make my own catchphrase! And it'll have Reichsrevolvers! And hookers! And you know what, forget the Reichsrevolvers!

[@tomm3869]

So...I watch C&R because I'm dieting and I'm at home and I need a distraction from eating...then they play Italian restaraunte music in the background. NOw I'm craving really good lasagna...and I want to buy a little Beretta.

[@Candrsenal]

I'm sorry.

[@spekt0r40]

They should do an episode about the pokey hand for April fools day

[@Candrsenal]

Glack.

[@taofledermaus]

That was awesome guys! (hope Mae's nose is ok!)

[@Candrsenal]

"ok"

[@ALegitimateYoutuber]

huh didn't expect to see mr tao filet of mouse here

[@Candrsenal]

***** We're bros

[@maewinchester2030]

All good here Tao!

[@Ray-tg1sj]

This made me go rewatch Othais ejecting that clip into his face.

[@desroin]

Even through all the .32 ACP bashing I'm pretty sure nobody wants to be at the receiving end of one of those ^^'

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@@oftheforest6572 That's no point at all - I'd rather not be hit by anything. There are so many factors at play with regards to gunshot wounds that it's ridiculous to attempt to use the scenario in a way which advocates or defames one round or another.

[@chrismc410]

No one wants a piece of lead weighing approximately 70 grains going about 850-1000 feet per second. It penetrates more than deep enough to reach the vital organs and do its job. On another note, the .32 ACP was invented by the master himself: John Moses Browning. That's good enough for me.

[@aussiebloke609]

I learned on a FN 1910 in .32 ACP (still one of my favourite handguns, too.) As my instructor liked to remind us, it'll kill someone just as dead as a .45 or 9mm.

[@canicheenrage]

And Mae even has an early 1900's hair cut.

[@Candrsenal]

right?

[@canicheenrage]

Well, close enough. :)

[@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC]

and a mrs. santa claus outfit.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

There is a reason for the "boxy" feeling of the M1915 handle. In the animation it can be seen that the space directly ahead of the thumb muscle is occupied by the main spring, that, in this gun, activates the hammer directly. In more "comfortable" hammer actuated semiautos, like the 1911 for example, the spring is in the heel, and activates the hammer via a rod. That allows to squeeze the upper part of the handle a bit, but is a piece more. As you said, Marengoni was a simplificator.

[@Candrsenal]

True, but they would later emulate Walther and put a nicer swoop to the rear frame. Too bad they didn't realize it sooner.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

Mae deserves a medal for her service to the C&Rsenaland. :)

[@Candrsenal]

Right?

[@ludditeneaderthal]

as usual, an awesome episode... one question for Mae though: exactly what does straight pull ammo smell like?

[@Candrsenal]

Since it was GP11...awesome

[@maewinchester2030]

If it came as a perfume I'd wear it every day.

[@ludditeneaderthal]

Mae Guns eau de cordite? or chanel k31?

[@snowwhite7677]

The PB on the grips was reminder: When fighting the Allies lube your pistol with Peanut Butter :)

[@billdyke9745]

Generally speaking you don't fight your allies... (Italy was on our side during the 1st one. And the latter half of the 2nd. Decisive? I'm not so sure). Trouble is Peanut Butter & Jam.

[@blakecacini8016]

@@billdyke9745 pickin' sides, are ya? Italy usually doesn't do that until it's too late... they won't be too glad about that.

[@fdmackey3666]

Between about 1973 and 1978 somebody imported a butt ton load of Beretta 1917s and other, later model, pistols in calibers .32 and .380ACP. Mixed in with those Berettas was a large number of Astra marked "clones" of the Beretta design. I purchased a Beretta in .380ACP and happily carried it off duty for a year or so before "upgrading" to a Llama 1911 clone chambered in .38 Super. Probably because semiauto handguns were not the big thing they became in the 1980s those Berettas sold for about (in my area at least) $75.00 for an "NRA Good" to a little over $125.00 for a really nice one in about NRA Excellent, as did the Astra clones in similar conditions. Seeing this video brought back the memory of that fine, very accurate, Beretta that I so foolishly traded away. Excellent video as usual. Keep 'em coming!

[@Candrsenal]

oh no, we trigger regret! To Gunbroker!

[@teddybitner3302]

As a Beretta enthusiast (and a military historian), thanks for the review!!!!

[@123nicefellow123]

Yes, Mae, the Swiss rifles are top ejecting ;-) I hope it did not hurt too bad and you recover quickly from your "battle injury" with the K-31. Greetings again from Austria!

[@maewinchester2030]

Still can't believe I did that and I own the damn thing.

[@Jesses001]

Ha, well if it makes you feel any better, I once jammed my thumb with the bolt of a bolt action when shooting left handed once. I forgot when shooting lefty, get your thumb on the side of the stock! got my thumb wedged between the bolt and the stock and the only way to get it out was to hit the bolt hard into place, knowing full well it would rip a nice grove into my thumb.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

After reading about 50 comments on the matter, now i am curious what happened haha.

[@Regolith86]

Jesse Sisolack I did that once, only it was with a Browning Auto-5, as I had rested my right thumb just forward of the charging handle. Took a good-sized chunk out. I don't run that risk shooting bolt rifles, because I use my right hand to run the bolt. I find reaching over with my left hand too awkward.

[@Jesses001]

I smacked my hand with the SCAR charging handle many times. That was more of just horrible placement of the charging handle rather then my fail. After getting smacked a few times, and jamming the rifle many times shooting around barricades, I get rid of that overpriced thing.

[@phprofYT]

You all should really wear eye protection or get Z87+ rated prescription glasses. It just makes sense when practice/show shooting.

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

The Mauser patent nasal extractor!

[@XFourty7]

Awesome video! I knew Beretta was an old name but that's crazy. Also, that ejection @ the end of the video lol :X... Nice catch though! :P

[@Candrsenal]

So old it fades into history

[@XFourty7]

C&Rsenal Apparently... Reusing names (Pietro) never helps either though!

[@arx3516]

I wonder if earlier in history they were swordmakers, a lot of good swords in the middle ages and renaissance came from Brescia and the surrounding area.

[@costantinoandruzzi2219]

19:05: Official nomenclature is "Pistola Beretta Brevetto 1915 Modello 1917". That is, "Beretta Pistol, 1915 Patent, Model of 1917".

[@scottyfox6376]

Im wondering about Mae's trigger finger wrap around of the trigger on the 1917 ? Im not an expert so im just wondering.

[@Lieutenant_Dude]

Ahhhh Beretta. The Ferrari of pistols.

[@larskunoandersen282]

As I have read Beretta goes back to 1526 and is the oldest gun manifactor in the world

[@terryyocumiii9645]

I shot a m9 for my pistol qual in the marines, and I like it

[@doraran5158]

Where did you get the 9mm Glisenti ammo? Did you hand load it or is there a custom ammo maker out there? I did notice recoil pulse on the 9mm and Mae's response. Does the Astra 400/600, also unlocked blowback, have similar pulse? Locked breech pistols seem to have a longer more even pulse compared with the more extreme shorter pulse as noted here. (Admittedly, I may be too detailed obsessed, but heck, that's the fun of the interest in these old relics.) Great video as always!

[@Candrsenal]

I wouldn't know about the Astra, we have not compared them. The ammo was handloaded

[@doraran5158]

C&Rsenal Need to borrow one?

[@MrMorganQuinn]

Now, is it possible to download 9x19 parabellum to Glisenti specs? Could you use backdated pointed rounds 115 grain 124 grain or do you need those semi- wadcutter?

[@MrMorganQuinn]

jacketed, damn auto correct.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

I've known you have a Mod 1915 for sometime now, so iwas curious when it would make it into this series. It is a very interesting and often forgotten part of Beretta history. All very good stuff & looking forward to the Glisenti 1910 video. It is rather difficult to find solid, reliable info on either model, cheers.

[@Candrsenal]

There is a new Italian book on the Glisenti and if you pair the Beretta history book with Riccio's in the description it helps

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Double-pop? No no, it's just a design feature! You see, it's the first service sidearm with 'burst fire' capability.

[@Ingulf_The_Mad]

I own a "Brevetto 1915" in 7.65 Browning, which belonged to my grandfather (an officer of italian army during WWII, and after). Although I love guns I never owned one, and did all the papers and stuff just to keep this one in consideration of its historical value. I don't even have ammo for it, and probably if I try to shoot this old gun (wich is apparently well preserved btw)something unpleasant would happen... But I would love to find the production year: is there a way to do so using the serial number? Any tips?

[@Candrsenal]

I dont know of a breakdown but the original 15 and 15/17 were produced just a few years before the 15-19

[@Ingulf_The_Mad]

Yeah, in fact I suppose this gun is the very first one he got as cadet. The time lapse should be right, considering he was born in 1901. Thx for the answer!

[@MrRoboskippy]

Mae is awesome.

[@Candrsenal]

no u

[@ricardolaza5685]

Good video, like always. When you showed teh Villar-Perosa I was speechless..... I played with that gun in B1!!!!! I really thougth that they got it out of their ass. My god, before watching this video, I was thinking of searching for the weapon to see if it was real. And it is!!! It's a aircraft submachine gun!!! Thanks for that ;)

[@Candrsenal]

We're hoping to find one somewhere to shoot.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

It was not really an aircraft submachinegun. It was meant from the start to be a SMG for field use. The first 300, or so, samples (of a production of more than 14000 samples) were incidentally given to the Air Force (tht was a branch of the Army at that time).

[@DLBBALL]

Neutron Alchemist That is not true. You saying that the gun just somehow happened to have all the features necessary to be an aircraft gun, but not an infantry gun?

[@ZGryphon]

Ah, 9mm Glisenti, or, real live grown-up firearms designers look at a cartridge with exactly the same dimensions as a much more powerful one and say, "Yes. I don't see anything that could possibly go horribly wrong if we start designing guns built to use that."

[@Candrsenal]

to be fair, Italians

[@neutronalchemist3241]

Infact nothing went horribly wrong. When the 9mm Glisenti was designed, the 9mm Luger wasn't the most widely used pistol cartridge in the world, but an oddball cartridge used by only one pistol. As a matter of fact, much more 9mm Glisenti than 9mm Luger cartridges had been manufactured until the end of WWI (due to their use in the Villar Perosa SMG since 1915, The Italians needed much more pistol cartridges than the Germans). The possibility of an Italian officer to find a box of 9mm Luger cartridges and try to fire them in his pistol were practically non existent, and infact there wasn't any report describing similar problems. When designers draw a new weapon, or cartridge, for the army. The problems of private owners of 100 years in the future are not taken into account.

[@tangero3462]

When you guys are done with the Great War, are you jumping straight to World War II or are you taking a look at the interwar pieces as well?

[@Candrsenal]

We are just going to spread out

[@gussie88bunny]

I am guilty of watching all these videos and having a great old time of it..........but didn't become a Patreon supporter till now. My apologies. Problem fixed. Given the entertainment value and literally hours of watching, why the hell I took this long to put a few bucks where my eyes are at is plain silly. I really enjoy the content. Please keep doing gun things. Thanks very much.

[@Candrsenal]

Thank you. It is very much appreciated. We would have never made it this far without support

[@gunslinger2172]

This Thanks giving i was very thankfull for what I learned off of C&Rsenal one of my favorite youtube channels and Mae reminds me of my deceased daughter huggs

[@maewinchester2030]

Mark Aul I'm happy I was able to trigger a fond memory of her for you.

[@DeerHunter308]

Othais, please stop chopping on Mae. Reasons: She is a girl, she is a pretty girl, she is a pretty girl who likes/loves guns. Nuff said. If she really doesn't mind it you can keep on pushing your luck, I guess. Great show.

[@Candrsenal]

I'm never mean to Mae.

[@canicheenrage]

Wrong perspective. He spends his life in the shadow of the mad dragon. The filmings are the only times where he can push back without immediate punishment, as there are witnesses. Do you know why we never get to see the target actually being shot at, while Mae smiles so much ? It's because Othias is tied to it, with a kiwi on his head.

[@DLBBALL]

Isn't that sexist? That the only reasons he can't even hint at impolite-ness is because she's a woman?

[@Gordons1888]

Damn, barretta is so old the roman empire was in living memory

[@vive6500]

I love these early Beretta pistols. Outward appearances of them always lead me to think that the M92 was pretty much in development for nearly 100 years.

[@charlesrosenquiest5466]

You are a very knowledgeable person when it comes to firearms, far exceeding the usual You Tube entrants. Enjoying all your posts.

[@Candrsenal]

thanks!

[@BaddFrogg777]

Excellent, thorough, and fun review. Love the design of both Beretta 1915 and 1917. Ammunition is expensive: .32, etc..

[@Tomartyr]

Does Mae believe in stopping power?

[@TwentythreePER]

Another great episode. The updates cracked me up but also I'm excited to see Mae shooting the K31. Another show you say? Sounds interesting. Keep up the good work, we love you guys.

[@leemday5731]

I'm not sure ? but James bond had this a favorite sidearm? He was very unhappy to hand his 32acp for the now famous Walter ppk!!

[@_Wiseguy7]

The only thing my lip reading skill could only make out at the end was : "Hi I'm Mae and this is * something * K thirty one" right at the end.

[@fellipeperseghetti7850]

Hwy guys, can someone help me find a pair of grip screws for the Beretta 1917 ? Thanks in advance !

[@1leggeddog]

C&Rsenal: Come for the history lesson and Mae, stay for the awesome animations that actually TEACH you how it works.

[@Candrsenal]

follow along and build your own.

[@Terrorkekx]

Hey C&R. Do you have already a video on more mechanical stuff done? I had an idea for a series on "The most game changing innovation on guns and rifles" where simple stuff like blowback, delayed Blowback or API can be shown and talked out....Something more in-depth stuff...

[@Candrsenal]

Terrorkekx just barely keeping pace with the show

[@Angr1smurf1]

Glad you like the animation, this one was a doozy, and its only blowback D:

[@neutronalchemist3241]

So far, it seems that the tighest pistol groups had been obtained by two 9mm guns (the Luger P.08 and the Beretta 1915) and two .32 ACP guns (the Dreyse 1907 and the F.Langenhan Selbstlader).

[@Candrsenal]

I am too lazy for all that

[@joearnold6881]

What's the really long rifle to othias' right?

[@Candrsenal]

Which?

[@autistic_elite]

24:50 can you get pistols? As you’re doing weapons after World War I now I really like the look of that pistol

[@ericswain70]

Glad you are feeling better....The 1917 is sweet. Great show guys.

[@Candrsenal]

I'm alive!

[@laborat80]

💪🏼🇮🇹Berretta since 1526🇮🇹💪🏼

[@jimalexander1896]

She shot a good group for 30 feet .but I could not help seeing she has way to much finger wrap around the trigger?

[@willlowery84]

Now that we’re out of WW1, I’d love to see a 1922 video.

[@lafeelabriel]

Having fun I hope guys? Just wish I could support you more on patreon than I do, but you guys were the main reason why I opened that account. Well you guys and Indy. :D Very nice video, and looking forward to the next one..Which looks like either a Vetterli or the Steyr Mannlicter (that sure looked like a straight pull where I'm standing)

[@Candrsenal]

$1 from each of our first 2 day visitors and we'd be sailing!

[@NeptuneBluez]

Thank you, the audio is fixed! Nice attention to details. Can we consider that the Walther P-38 open-top slide was inspired by the Beretta Modelo 1917, even tough it was not a direct blowback design? By the way, out of curiosity, are the two of you a couple in real life or just good friends enjoying firearms history?

[@Candrsenal]

I'm not sure what pushed the P.38 in that direction. The Mauser pocket pistols could have also been an influence.

[@jerryandre510]

This glock is different from the one I got from *mrmasterglock on wickr* the one I got, has a switch them told me it a new gun

[@kitchsc]

I'm hoping to see a video on the Beretta M1918 in the future after seeing that Bareeta 1938.

[@Candrsenal]

Not until we leave WWI. None made it to the front.

[@mazkact]

And the baby M 92 (or Mother of M 92)..... the M 1934.

[@ElCineHefe]

It's a redundant safety to confound anyone who gets their hands on your pistol.

[@dimamax5372]

very educational, thanks for sharing

[@philipfreeman72]

When was the unique French 32 auto 10 shot made ? WW 2 ?

[@tonyk0756]

If you look at the film Uomini Contro, based on the book by Emilio Lussu, A year on the plateau , or Hemingways Farewell to Arms. the pistol is mainly used by officers against their own soldiers who refused to advance. The officers were apparently expected to buy the pistols them self's. WW1 mentality, and the education of the common soldier in nuts in comparison to today. They did not know what any of it was about or why they were fighting. But they got fed every day and that was better than they got at home at the time. And if they didn't like it, no choice.

[@ypop417]

Loving the hair Mae! And another good show as well!

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks!

[@cannonfodder4376]

I see that you fixed that audio hick up at the 16:00 mark of the video. Great video overall though.

[@Candrsenal]

Yeah, orphaned remnants from dropping in voice over work.

[@Treblaine]

Maybe .32 isn't as bad as it seems, it's not like an 8mm hole is going to be particularly less devastating than a 9mm hole.

[@Candrsenal]

There is a pretty big mass difference as well.

[@Treblaine]

C&Rsenal Sure makes a big difference to recoil. I have yet to find any combat accounts but they can't have kept ordering so many in the same calibre if it was so radically underpowered. They'd at least have upsized to .380ACP. Then again the situation was so dire people were seriously considering shovels as effective close quarters weapons, it's not like everyone had an assault rifle like current conflicts.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

At that time .32 ACP was considered almost perfect for self defense. It's interesting to see that the Italians, like the other WWI powers for their specific rounds, adopted the 9mm Glisenti in peacetime (1910 in this case) due to theoric considerations. Then, they adopted the .32 ACP after several years of war, having experienced that, for what was the use of a pistol in a battle, the only perceived difference between 9mm and 7.65mm pistols was that 9mm were heavier to carry.

[@Treblaine]

Neutron Alchemist While obviously bigger is better, a cannon ball should be more effective than any pistol... I just can't conceive how anyone could be hit multiple times by .32 multiple times and not succumb. It has to be enough. Especially as the comparison is with earlier generations of handguns that have much broader bullets but being single-action only (or a very heavy double action) and low capacity it's not going to be a shot-for-shot comparison.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

Treblaine And do not forget that some of those earlier balls were not even that big. the iconic Colt Navy was initially cal .36, then converted to .38 Short Colt, that's a 9mm with the energy of a .32 ACP. It could happen that someone hit multiple times with a .32 ACP keep on fighitng. It happened with 9mm Luger, 45 ACP, and even with full blown rifle rounds. With little and low energy rounds it's marginally more likely to happen, but in the end, in the economy of a war...

[@CyborgBirdie]

(I know BF1 is not at all accurate) but doesnt that mean that what the call the Modello 15, is actually the Modello 17? as it seems to be quite small and has an 8 round mag.

[@Candrsenal]

I haven't played it but if it's a small, 32 acp with 8 rounds then yes, they've fallen for the myth

[@Raishikaku]

why on Earth did they not modify the original 1915 , to use some of the ergonomics of the 1917. 1915 Model 2. if they did they probably would have sold more.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

To do modifications to a manufacturing line during a war is costly. After the war, the army had handguns in excess, and would not adopt a new design (they purchased only a small number of the much better Beretta 1923 model), while the 9mm was not considered a self-defense round at that time, but military stuff. .32 ACP pistols (economic, easily concealable) were considered to be perfect for self defense back then.

[@epk1789]

You say you are working on a diminishing list yet I am eagerly waiting for our lord and saviour the mosin nagant to appear which should be the easiest one to find, granted most guns on sale are 91/30 but you I guess you have access to an M91. Russia is just waiting for you...

[@Candrsenal]

Yeah... if you ever start digging on the origin of that gun it gets... politically edited. We're still running sources. Let alone an original Dragoon or 1907

[@Grubnar]

"I wish I had that in slow-motion!" So do I.

[@Jesses001]

Mai is a girl. How very observant of you. So glad you pointed that out to us, ha.

[@Candrsenal]

you've been informed.