History of WWI Primer 040: Austro-Hungarian Mannlicher Carbines Documentary

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Additional reading:
Die Hand- und Faustfeuerwaffen der habsburgischen Heere
Erich Gabriel
Repetier- und Automatische Handfeuer Waffen
Konrad Edler von Kromar
Mannlicher Rifles and Pistols (tranlated from above)
Walter H. B. Smith
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"Unter dem Doppeladler" by Josef Wagner
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[@SniperWalrus]

I know it must sound incredibly strange to some people but Othais and the guys from C&Rsenal, your videos are so soothing and relaxing for me. I absolutely love listening to them when I'm trying to wind down after a stressful few days! Thank you and please never stop being so cool. c:

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks, that's really nice to hear. But you should probably finish the video, what if I just started screaming in the middle?

[@SniperWalrus]

C&Rsenal If I can deal with the gunfire I can deal with the shouty Othais! C:

[@thecrazycanuck9317]

I agree, sometimes its the only way I can fall asleep.

[@BennettIsAmazing]

I am currently watching this after another long and tiring day on my film set job, cooking dinner, and will eat the dinner to this and relax. Totally agree with you on this front.

[@LunchBox1912]

Agreed, I play them while handloading. It's like the intro and outro music or something I can't explain it.

[@jdgomez775]

Mannlicher is probably the most underrated Gun maker. There are a few others but Mannlicher needs some credit.

[@Candrsenal]

werd

[@anchorbait6662]

It's like a 30 carbine for the turn of the century. Short, lightweight and easy to throw around. Love it

[@philp8872]

You are right about Mannlicher not being recognized as being as genius as he was. But I can asure you that at least in Austria his Name is still very famous amongst people who shoot for hunting and sporting. As the original Mannlicher-Schönauer was produced until 1972 in its sporting form. It is described as the finest bolt action sporting rifle by some, and when the production stopped because by that time it was more expensive to produce than for what it was sold for, Austrian hunters were very disappointed. The successor, the Steyr-Mannlicher obviously reused the Mannlicher name more than 60 years after Mannlicher himself died when introduced in 1969, it came into military use as the Steyr SSG-69, an excellent sniper rifle. Heck, even its successor the Mannlicher SBS-96 recycled his name in 1996, and its variants do up to this day.

[@jshicke]

Another great video , guys! I have an M1895/30 Stutzen and have always wondered why more countries did not adopt it. It is one of the few bolt guns that allow you to cock from the shoulder and thus keep your sight picture for follow up shots. Someone said it was because the locking lugs were too weak. Having fired a lot of the 8*56R cartridges, I can tell you that they hold up just fine, so weakness was not the reason. Great little rifles that kick like mules.

[@Toolness1]

The Yugoslavs didn't think it was weak, they modified a bunch of them to shoot 8mm Mauser. I have one and haven't seen any issues with the locking lugs....

[@TwentythreePER]

PCShogun I agree, the recoil is punishing. I have one too and I'd love to start reloading so I can load it down some. Plus 8x56r is kind of pricey but I love my stutzen so much.

[@eRahja]

Mae always looks so happy when she shoot!

[@caseyburt4193]

This channel convinced me to buy an M85 Carbine, and can't get the K11 out of my head. Excellent content, good people.

[@two_owls]

Got to shoot one of these carbines recently - I was very happy with how smooth the action was and thoroughly impressed with the enbloc clip. Very cool gun!

[@darkeagle553]

As an austrian i very appreciated this series. Keep up the good work !

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks!

[@konasteph]

Ja hab i mir a denkt.

[@WildBillCox13]

"Tea. Earl Grey. Hot." "Agh! Make it snow, Mister Laforge! Make . . . it . . . SNOW!"

[@Sauerkrautkopf]

Awww yess, I have looking forward to this all day long!

[@Candrsenal]

What if it's shit?

[@wierdalien1]

C&Rsenal quit that!

[@derekkauhane6332]

I have really enjoyed this Mannlicher series. You guys do a great show and really know your stuff. Well done!

[@Candrsenal]

Thank you, I'm glad it went well.

[@lstevens2834]

I always seem to learn new stuff about my guns from you. i can't imagine how much research you must be doing. Thanks so much to you and Mae for your efforts,

[@Candrsenal]

It is... a lot.

[@andrewdesaulniers7638]

I watch every week. Thanks for all your hard work.

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks for the perfect attendance!

[@wangl601]

Extraordinary Mannlicher trilogy! Thank you!

[@Candrsenal]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@blueduck9409]

Another outstanding video, on another fantastic rifle. Thank you!

[@Zaaphod]

oooh, I was looking forward for this whole damn day. Thank you

[@Candrsenal]

But it might be shit?

[@Zaaphod]

But it was not. It never is.

[@anonymousanonymous9370]

+C&Rsenal you guys make great episodes, so no need to say that. keep up the great work!

[@robertneal4244]

I think Mae really wants you to find the smoother action stutzen conversion...that little sounds she made spoke volumes!

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

any videos on it?

[@903lew]

Best KZbin content ever. Proud sponsor!

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks man

[@davet1736]

Thanks for pointing out the difference between the long and short rear adjustable sights. I ave an M95 carbine of both variations like you displayed @ 21:40. I was beating my head in trying to figure out the appropriate designation for the differences. Your explanation helped immensely. There are tons of these rifles out there, and many seemed to be listed with the wrong name by vendors.

[@TwentythreePER]

First I want to thank you for all the research you do so you can present it to us. You mentioned looking over notes in other languages and checking them on Google translate at 2 am and that must be very hard to do but it is very much appreciated. I love that kind of information but lack the resources to discover much myself so thanks for your hard work. You also mentioned hand picking your carbine for its smooth action. I was just curious where you find these rifles. I always hear of people getting great deals on them but I can never find them. Lastly, I think these last 3 episodes have made me appreciate Mannlicher much more than I ever did before. I love how you include information about the inventors too because I am training to be a gunsmith and its interesting to see just how smart these men where and how they came up with ideas and developed them. Keep up the good work guys! I'm glad your doing so well with the Patreon and the posters. Glad I am getting a poster before you run out!

[@Candrsenal]

Honestly I spend 20 hours a week dedicated to finding the future guns. So it's a plug at every possible resource.

[@TreeWizard648]

Sorry, wrong comment. I was responding to Buzz Bomb Gaming's question about K11s.

[@SolarEmp1re]

Off topic but I was pleasantly surprised yesterday when I opened my front door to a tube sitting on my porch. Wasn't expecting the rifles poster for another two weeks or so and it looks great! Worth every penny.

[@Candrsenal]

nice!

[@joearnold6881]

Yay, a new episode! Time to play the "Counting How Many Times Mae Says 'in my opinion' While Giving Her Opinion" game! :)

[@greybayles7955]

*falls asleep watching C&Rsenal videos* *wakes up to pig noises* "'Kay bye guys!!!" wot

[@koehlerrk1]

Excellent video series, Othias and Mae. I like this format, please do this again when you tackle another one of these histories that's not exactly simple.

[@Candrsenal]

The staggered approach?

[@koehlerrk1]

The multi-video series. Because some of these have a lot of history behind them.

[@NuclearAlchemist]

Another great video! There's a couple of m95/30s in a local shop that I've been eyeing. I'm also looking forward to an eventual episode on the Mannlicher-Schoenauer.

[@Candrsenal]

it's in the works.

[@lordDenis16]

After coming back from university and boredom reaching unknown levels. This is exactly what I needed.

[@Candrsenal]

Good to hear

[@amishparadise428]

Just got a Budapest 1917 production M 95 Stutzen. Love it.

[@ZGryphon]

Today's musical accompaniment: Josef Wagner's "Unter dem Doppeladler" ("Under the Double Eagle"), popular Austro-Hungarian march and, for those of us who first heard it on _Monty Python's Flying Circus_, the music to "Conrad Poohs and his Dancing Teeth".

[@Nitrocity7151]

Very informative video!

[@GrizzAxxemann]

It always brings a smile to my face to see Mae shoot. Girls who shoot are AWESOME.

[@Candrsenal]

woo

[@maewinchester2030]

*brushes shoulder off*

[@redandgreendesert1]

Thank you for this great series about Mannlicher rifles. Please make video about the Mannlicher-Schönauer too! Cheers from Hungary!

[@Candrsenal]

We have several variants collecting now.

[@Lomi311]

Watching this 6+ years later, I sure hope Othais got a mental health day or two since then. I kinda doubt it though, this team works their asses off!

[@MilsurpWorld]

Great, now I have to go buy an M95!

[@JenniferinIllinois]

I say the same thing after almost every video. Othias and Mae are making me go broke!!! :) -Jen

[@lstevens2834]

I was already obsessed before Othias and Mae. I bought my 95/30 at Big Five for $79.99 along with a couple of Mosin Nagants. It was one of the guns that sent me on the road to collecting Milsurps. Or was that the road to perdition?

[@longboi8540]

I've got an original non-conversion short rifle. It's great! Super reliable and smooth. I love it.

[@jeffreyreardon7487]

Great episode, y'all

[@Candrsenal]

Thanks

[@kevinsullivan3448]

I loved the lead up to WAR WERE DECLARED.

[@RV-qj9qh]

there should be a clue or hint like country and type of weapon (pistol, rifle etc) as to what the next episode will be, the suspense kills me lol. Love the series

[@maewinchester2030]

Like a "Who's that Pokemon" silhouette kind of hint?

[@exploatores]

Austrio-Hungaria, did simple things complicated.

[@thurin84]

well they are germanic

[@FireflyActual]

It's just like the country itself - a relatively straightforward idea of a central European superpower complicated by the multitude of nations it ruled over.

[@MojoDevirus]

Those carbines are so beautiful.

[@Candrsenal]

I agree.

[@troyp467]

Phew! I thought I wasn't going to see my favourite (yes favOURite) pair of Americans this week. Keep up the great work looking forward to those posters when they get here.

[@Candrsenal]

We posted at like noon....

[@blakecacini8016]

Pousters*

[@JackDo-lu8ux]

Thanks Othias and Mae, both of you sold me to this shorty Mannlicher! Now I have to get ready to move to the US :D The Korean History/Gun Nut, Jack.

[@Candrsenal]

Do it! Horde guns.

[@JackDo-lu8ux]

C&Rsenal Well maybe in a couple years time. I am thinking about serving in the Navy as an NCO.

[@nickwilson7796]

what are the chances of "war were declared" t shirts being made?

[@TwentythreePER]

Yes I would buy one!

[@Zyme86]

I dont get a lot of novelty Ts and that would be one I would snap up.

[@MechanizedFantasy]

As long as it's a screencap of a tactical toboggan, or the upended skier behind the text.

[@brettd2308]

+Nick Wilson I *love* how they use that joke, but ultimately it's a quote they're ripping straight from Futurama, which is why Othais started referencing it in the first place. So there might be legal complications with profiting directly from it.

[@Candrsenal]

Pretty good.

[@garchamp9844]

You guys are costing me a lot og money... And a lot of space in my safe!

[@johannesvanhoek9080]

Great series ,,,anything on the 1886 kopatschek 8x56r. Or 8x60r in the future ? Thanks for such a great job 😎

[@WasatchGarandMan]

Another great episode guys, Cant wait for the next one! You guys gunna do a multi-parter for the Lee-Metfords/Lee-Enfields?

[@Candrsenal]

yep

[@Rinasoir]

That pig was adorable

[@antongreenberg741]

Othais, I have one of these Buda, 1918 proofed Stutzens with a venthole on the bolt. The bolt head is numbered, however, which I thought was a hallmark of a Bulgarian contract rifle bolt. Sadly, the bolt head number doesn't match the rest of the rifle. Side sling swivels only...

[@aszcz3245]

Love the videos and info...! But always causes questions.... I have an unconverted carbine that now has ONLY side slings(the upper one is a bar) and the rear barrel band is 5” from the front band that has the bayonet stud, but there is an Arsenal plug where the rear under sling would be. No dates on the receiver - only what looks like a capital E in a circle/oval off to the right side. There is a “15” in 2 places under the receiver and on barrel that can only be seen with the stock removed. Would they have converted a 1915 stutzen to a cavalry carbine ? I see no references with a mention of an “E”. The gun has the short sight and a serial number of only 4 numerals- NO LETTER SUFFIX. Any thoughts what this is?

[@darbythompson7020]

That's a nice poster behind your head, now that the 3 part series is finish, could you guys make a video on that gun?

[@Candrsenal]

nah

[@burnsboysaresoldiers]

hey guys, do you ever plan on making an episode on mannlicher 1903? MY FAVORITE!

[@Candrsenal]

It's on the wall..

[@Ratmilker]

On the note of remarked rear sights, theres actually one I have my eyes on at the moment that appears to have been an original carbine and the rear sights were never changed after the S-conversion

[@FireflyActual]

Can't wait for an episode on Schmidt-Rubin rifles, I'm sure Mae would be more than happy to review the K11.

[@FireflyActual]

Also... DAMMIT WINCHESTER YOU'RE SO CUTE!

[@Candrsenal]

Not until after WWI

[@1murder99]

I have an M95 in 8mm by 56mm Hungarian. It was made by Steyer. I shoot lead bullet hand loads in it and recoil is very light.

[@charlene2400]

I have the 1890 carbine, side sling version. Love it, but I do download it a bit, as it's getting old. I find the bigger sight works better with my astigmatism vision problem. Mine's still in 8x50r

[@wierdalien1]

That is one cute pig.

[@maewinchester2030]

Don't let that nose fool you, he's a troublemaker.

[@dereks6636]

Mae Guns lol

[@nicholasford4820]

Great video as always - looking forward to my poster! I have an M90 carbine that's missing the front band, do you happen to have any suggestions on where a guy could find one?

[@Candrsenal]

Not a clue sadly. Probably best to find someone who can manufacture a repro.. Which of course is harder than finding another gun.

[@amateurshooter927]

Winchester making a guest appearance, boy did he get big quick. Great video to finish out the Mannlichers, this was a big gap in my what I thought I knew about WW1 armaments, keep up the good work. When Mae was firing the '90 carbine and it has extraction binding on the second round, is that a common trouble with all straight pulls if you don't get a solid starting jerk on the action or was it specific to that rifle?

[@Candrsenal]

I'm convinced that's why the 95 has a stronger "hump" in the pull, to force a snappy pull.

[@nirfz]

Mannlicher may not be known around the world, and even in Austria these days, but almost everybody older than 30 here in Austria links the name Mannlicher with a Rifle. Because most of Rifles around beiing it Hunting Rifles or the ones our Military used (uses) were/are from Steyr. And Most people called them "Steyr-Mannlicher" even if the company name and the rifle name had changed. And if someone had a "Steyr Mannlicher" hunting rifle it was always considered of high quality. (Most of the time only outclassed by the handfitted, handmade Rifles of Ferlach)

[@shilelea]

nirfz here in the states when someone says mannlicher I immediately think of a stock that encloses the whole length of the barrel. I think that might be because ruger marketed a European stock 1022 as a mannlicher styled stock.

[@-oiiio-3993]

@@shilelea Stutzen.

[@TwentythreePER]

I just walked out of the gun show with one of these beautiful Stutzen M95s. This show is the only reason I even knew what it was but she's a thing of beauty. Haven't shot her yet but the bolt is relatively slick for one that was rechambered for 8x56r.

[@Candrsenal]

nice

[@TwentythreePER]

So glad I finally have one. Now I need the long rifle.

[@greydonstautzenberger3901]

Keep it up

[@dashsocur]

Othais was definitely channeling a little bit of Mike Wazowski there in regards to Mae's favorite rifle. lol

[@AlfDavidFjeld]

the old schritt measurement on the rearsight is 1 schritt are 75.8c6m, or 0.7586 meters

[@jamesrivettcarnac]

Calling this 3 episode arc ambitious. I've seen the future, I've seen the martini episodes.

[@ryanstebbins3102]

I want to share this. I have an original m95/30 long rifle with a 1917 manufacturing date and it has the bulgarian lion over stamped on the original austrian one

[@AVERT-]

Does anyone know with the s marked 95s if there is a way to date it? I have one with 40 mark an the chamber and barrel and a k on the but plate and on the stock is I believe 1430x and 4035 on opposite side...thanks just subscribed and really like your content very helpful and full of great information!! Thank you

[@jimvandemoter6961]

Othais and Mae, another great historical piece. You get to study and shoot some of the coolest and arguably most beautiful guns ever made (also some real dogs, too. Eye of the beholder, right?). I have to ask, are all of those guns behind you your own collection? From one history nut too another, keep the great stuff coming.

[@maewinchester2030]

Best job ever. Some are ours, but most are pieces on loan from other collectors.

[@smashleykucan1428]

would there be any reason for a m95 carbine to have black painted on the first half hanguard.

[@ztbmarine]

Othais needs to stop picking on Mae. When he said he'd sell it and she said no, it was so sad it pulled my heartstrings.

[@abubbam]

Do y’all have a link to what ever book y’all use for the information on differences or do y’all put out a book?

[@tomc8313]

My late grandfather was in the Austrian-Hungarian mounted cavalry in WWI. I found this video fascinating (when I first watched it a few years ago). I have been unable to find a Karabiner from that era. Am I likely to ever see a legit one come up for sale, and if so, where should I be looking?

[@anchorbait6662]

I can appreciate Mae.

[@chaosrookie3231]

I love that little dino in the background during the update at the end of the video, we need to see more of him! XD

[@Candrsenal]

It's a piggy bank

[@mikekovacs8981]

Are you sure the 8x56R bullet diameter isn't .329? I seem to remember this reloading for this cartridge because they are a bit hard to come by. Apologies if somebody else already mentioned in the comments.

[@johnjunge6989]

Othais, your comments on language and history are the part that makes me laugh, and in this time of Covid, your a bright spot. Plus I admire your research abilities since I'm sure its not on Google!!! Oh, Mae is like my grand daughter that's in the Air Force, she groups them tight too! I do not start arguments with her!! LoL

[@jcarry5214]

Guys, what basic info and origin can you share about the rifle over May's shoulder, the lowest horizontal one? I have two of those and we've never been able to track down anything solid. Ive never even seen a photograph of another one actually with the same exact details (bolt shape, size, mag, sights) so I only assume it's the same chamber. Any info would be very well appreciated. Total mystery in the family for 50 years or more. Good work btw.

[@vidyaorszag]

I plan on getting a M95 soon, but I have to ask since I'm curious and I've heard a lot about the stiffness of the 8x56mmR conversions. Is there anything that can be done about it? I keep hearing how it was caused by the poor quality of the hand-fitting during the conversions and I was wondering if there were ways to alleviate the issues.

[@Candrsenal]

Careful hand fitting I'm afraid. So you'd need an experienced gunsmith with a lot of time on that particular gun.

[@FantadiRienzo]

Can we just pretend that switzerland took part in WW1? Just to get the Schmidt-Rubins in?

[@Candrsenal]

no

[@FantadiRienzo]

C&Rsenal Come on, switzerland was at least looking what was going on. I know that they managed to keep themselves out of any war since 1815, but... they've got cool rifles.

[@jpkalishek4586]

@@FantadiRienzo it's the future calling, you got your Schmidt-Rubin C&Rsenal 3 bolt T-shirt? I do.You only gotta wait 89 more episodes!

[@Urzaban]

Dam guess, I really lucked out on my carbine still being in 8x50r.

[@galbas78]

I found one of these Mannlicher carbines at one of my local gun shops. I don't recall what model it is but I only paid a cool $125 for it. I personally thought it was a steal and bought it on sight after a small inspection. i'm going to shoot it once then make it a wall hanger for my man cave.

[@Candrsenal]

nice

[@kevspss]

The M4 carbine of it’s day.

[@bdarne0024]

how much would a Karabiner mit Stutzenring cost if its still chambered for 8x50

[@gpclipner]

EXCELLANT EPISODE !!!! Looks like my rifle is a 95/30 cutdown. I haven't been able to figure out what cartridge it is yet ,Barrel isn't S stamped. and front sight isn't pressed on. I'd send you some pics, but tube doesn't allow it. Overall excellent series . You and May ROCK IT !!!

[@Candrsenal]

Probably not a 30 then, ask a smith to cast the chamber if you're really not sure but likely 8x50

[@gpclipner]

Yep, also where the had made the cut on the stock the glue didn't hold well co I have to redo that part, because it's loose and slips up and down. There are some holes where dole rods were maybe used in the glueing process.

[@RonJohn63]

9:43 They sure do like meters!!

[@konasteph]

Go look into austrian stuben musik...how hunting (poaching, of course) the chamois in Austria with the "stutzerl" was just so popular or at least admired of sorts. As the song is telling you could easily hide that stutzerl in the vinegar barrel when the gendarmerie was searching your house and they wouldn't find it. Thats where SM sold a bunch of those rifles. "Das Gamserl schwarz und braun" go look for that song

[@stewknoles4790]

As a matter of fact, several years ago when they were brought out for US sale, I paid a whopping $79 bucks a piece. Now they go for around $250.

[@ryanestes7331]

Just paid 445 for a carbine with a bubbed handguard

[@M81_WOODLAND]

According to an old text I have, Von Mannlicher wasn't as well financially backed by his government as other firearms makers such as Mauser. This could be another reason his work is left in the dark corners of history.

[@freddieellis8449]

It’s got quite a snap to it, hasn’t it? 😲

[@Alexx120493]

its just crazy to think how much money was spent during this time for dozens of different small arms variations. I mean every country had at least 30-40 different rifle versions between 1880 and 1918

[@Candrsenal]

Insane

[@j.helvie6563]

Earl Grey tea is nasty!!! The carbines are cool.

[@thurin84]

haha your such a mischievous sprite mae!!!! nice trek reference (it was a trek reference, right?)!

[@Candrsenal]

yes

[@engalstiger]

Funny you mention m1 carbines and garands, but Mannlicher had a patent for there gas lock design!

[@ricardolaza5685]

Thanks for the hard work, team. I would like to make a suggestion: Why do you not make a video behind the scenes. It would be cool to watch how the team works each episode, and all the work related to it. A perfect christmas present, don't you think?;)

[@maewinchester2030]

We've made one before for the patrons.

[@Candrsenal]

I think he means more "how to" and not "look what hit Othais in the face this time"

[@ricardolaza5685]

Yeah, that's the idea. A video showing the work behind a normal chapter of the series. I would be awesome

[@logitimate]

@@Candrsenal Why not both?

[@plymouthsuperbird440]

I noticed the pipes on the mantle in the update, are they just for display? Or have stumbled upon another member of the brotherhood of the Briar?

[@Candrsenal]

Who has pipes just for display? Mae and I each have one.

[@plymouthsuperbird440]

I have seen stranger things my friend. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing what is to come. May your smokes be long and cool and your rifles old and cosmoline coated

[@ajjdgj6tmgedvnmtmek]

Looking forward to episodes on Russia and the Mosin-Nagant!

[@Candrsenal]

Me too

[@vamisk]

Hi Othais, if i can ask, i have an M95/34 with the exact same ejection symptoms. What did you do to fix it?

[@Candrsenal]

Had to replace the ejector, someone had deformed it

[@ROB0049]

I'd love to see the video of the barrel heading downrange. The comments must have been hilarious.

[@vasilzahariev5741]

Othais, are you planning to do a video on the Mannlicher 1893(The one that Romania and Serbia had)? Love your videos, keep up the good work.

[@Candrsenal]

Pieces already located and negotiated.

[@Bojan_Kavedzic]

Serbia did not use it. Serbian WW1 rifles until rearmament by French: Mauser 1910, 7x57 Mauser 1899/07, 7x57 Mauser 1899, 7x57 Mauser 1908 Cavalry Carbine, 7x57 Mauser-Djuric M1907, 7x57 Mauser-Milovanovic M1880, 10.15 Serbian Mauser Mauser-Milovanovic 1884 Cavalry Carbine (very few), 10.15 Serbian Mauser Mauser-Milovanovic 1884 Artillery Carbine, 10.15 Serbian Mauser Mosin 1891 Infantry Rifle, 7.62x54R Mosin 1907 Cavalry Carbine (very Few), 7.62x54R Berdan II Infantry Rifle, 10.75mm Berdan Serbian Peabody Artillery Carbine (few, used due the lack of new artillery carbine among fortress artillery units), 14.9 Serbian Peabody Captured Turkish Mauser 1903, 7.65x53 Captured Turkish Mauser 1893, 7.65x53 Captured Turkish Mauser 1890, 7.65x53 Captured Turkish Peabody-Martini Rifle, 11x59R Turkish Captured Bulgarian Mannlichers (from 2nd Balkan War), 8x50R Mannlicher Captured A-H Mannlicher rifles and Carbines (almost all 2nd call reserves were rearmed with those after Kolubara and Cer battles), 8x50R Mannlicher That is about it. 1st call units used Mauser 1899, 1899/07 and 1910 2nd call used Turkish Mausers, Mauser-Djuric, later rearmed with Mannlichers 3rd call used Berdan 2 and Mauser-Milovanovic 1880, some rearmed with Mauser-Djurica after 2nd call got captured Mannlichers Last call reserves used the rest. Belgrade Gendarme unit (defending Belgrade in 1915) used captured Turkish Peabody-Martini

[@vasilzahariev5741]

+Bojan Kavedzic I meant to say Kingdom of Yugoslavia, if one is to believe the Wikipedia page. But you are most probably right. Also Portugal had its own variant. en.m.wikipedia.org

[@Bojan_Kavedzic]

Kingdom of Yugoslavia had it in the reserves, those were guns captured by A-H then given as war reparations to Yugoslavia. They were not used to any large degree, and mostly sat out in warehouses by the time of German invasion. There was no training for them etc, they were considered (as with all non 7.92x57mm rifles) to be deep reserve in case shit really got bad.

[@kl-nc4gy]

I call shenanigans on the mannlicher being the "smoothest" of the straight pulls, I'm sorry, but the Ross mkII is by far smoother, plus no clip or charger required! (Shenanigans in ASL is very fun and useful thing to learn btw)

[@logitimate]

American Sign Language? Or Advanced Squad Leader? You be the judge.

[@thomasadams7795]

The rechambering to the new round added an new consideration. The 8x56r has a reputation for brutal recoil in the carbines. Also, didnt the Nazi's rechamber lot of them to 8x57, modified to accept strippers?