History of WWI Primer 063: U.S. Krag-Jørgensen Model 1898 Documentary

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6 жыл бұрын

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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The Krag Rifle Story
Franklin B Mallory
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William S. Brophy
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@danielwebsterflagler5547
@danielwebsterflagler5547 6 жыл бұрын
Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated. I still have over 16,000 years to go! That Krag gun sure was something.
@gunslinger2172
@gunslinger2172 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me General Flagler Sir by your leave may I ask if you are related to Mr Henry Flagler of Florida ?
@gunnarkvinlaug7226
@gunnarkvinlaug7226 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain.
@lylehutchins916
@lylehutchins916 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Kraig 1898. I Reload with 165gr. bullets According to a 1960s' Hornady handbook, it pushes @ about 2400fps with 38.6grs. of Dupont IMR 4320 powder. Speer or Sierra projectiles. I don't use the 180gr hunting bullet. I hope to keep the pressures down. At 100 yards, with reloads on rest, I could hit a pint whiskey bottle (empty of course) with open sights. I was 40 years younger then!
@hangonsnoop
@hangonsnoop 3 жыл бұрын
Are you a Time Lord?
@dsan94
@dsan94 2 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for someone to comment on that 😂
@veryoldnavy2186
@veryoldnavy2186 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago I wandered into a small museum on the Eastern Shor of Maryland. One of the displays was a photo of "Maryland Naval Militia" circa early 1942. The sailors were assigned to walking beach patrols to ensure that the Germans did not land agents along the coast from U-boats. Everyone in the picture was armed with a Krag. So these things hung on in secondary roles for a long, long time.
@csm5040
@csm5040 7 ай бұрын
When Germany invaded Denmark in 1940, the Danish were still rocking Krags as their standard infantry rifle.
@ricardo3760
@ricardo3760 6 ай бұрын
​@@csm5040The Danish Krags got about 2 hours of use then
@robweidle7608
@robweidle7608 4 ай бұрын
Just bought a Krag carbine dated 1898 outside of OCMD. I probably inherited a family heirloom from a beach patrol sailor…
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 6 жыл бұрын
>literally did this episode because he found a single picture of it in France >is one of the longest videos in the series gg ez Othais
@Frank-bc8gg
@Frank-bc8gg 6 жыл бұрын
Americans love thier Krags.
@Deathnotekeeper
@Deathnotekeeper 6 жыл бұрын
gfd sdsdfgfds and Springfield, I'm American but I prefer the krag more then the Springfield.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 6 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping a LeMat revolver or a Gatling Gun ends up in a WWI photo!
@monicam48
@monicam48 6 жыл бұрын
Deathnotekeeper Had they really thought things through the would have gone with the Navy Lee 6mm. Personally I think the M1917 is far better than either the Krag or M1903..
@hvymtal8566
@hvymtal8566 6 жыл бұрын
You're not alone, but the Krag and Springfield were the top of the ticket for a major nation-defining war each with the Springfield as a major supporting character for another. The 1917 was second fiddle for the first world war and didn't even make the cut for the 2nd. No matter how many were produced, appearances matter nearly as much as (often more than, unfortunately) facts, especially nowadays
@ThomasGabrielsen
@ThomasGabrielsen 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best and thorough presentation of Krag Jørgensen I've ever watched. Great job! I have been a member of the National Rifle Association of Norway ("Det Frivillige Skyttervesen") since in 1984 (13 years old). From as early as 1902 Krag-Jørgensen was the standard rifle until was replace by Sig Sauer 200 STR as late as in 1990. It is still an approved weapon in competition. I bought my first "Krag" - as we call them for short - when I was 16 years old and I have shot 10th thousands of rounds with Krag. It is a bit misleading to call them Krag because the barrels, stock, trigger and sight (diopter) was replaced, but the bolt and magazine was original. The barrel was replaced after approximately 10,000 rounds. The reason Krag used for that long is because it's very fast and smooth and it almost never jammed, but also for historical reasons. My Krag was built in 1908 and a lot of the Krag's was as old as 80-100 years when they was gradually were replaced by Sig Sauer from 1990. You talked about the locking lugs and that they were a weakness, which I can confirm. First of all, it was not allowed to load cartridges with a higher muzzle speed than 810 m/s (if I remember correctly), but I usually loaded them for 760 m/s. The reason we didn't wanted to load them with higher velocity was because of the locking lugs had what we call 3 and 6 position which mean that they are asymmetrical and one lug was positioned down to the right. This had the unfortunately effect that the impact point went up and to the left if the cartridges became wet (rain) and the friction between the case and the chamber became lower. That's why most of us used Mauser during field shooting when we didn't have a roof to protect the cartridges and weapon from rain. Again, thank you very much for this presentation of history of Krag-Jørgensen in the USA. Very interesting! Greetings from Norway!
@cs-rj8ru
@cs-rj8ru 3 жыл бұрын
There are more Norse Krags in the US than Norway these days...Still they're very hard to find. I've owned 4. 3 were 1912 carbines. Personally I love them. Every one I've ever seen had a terrible bore...Your service ammunition must have been pretty corrosive. Norse Krags are a bit stronger as they have 2 bearing surfaces. I shot standard swedish service ammo in mine and duplicates w reloader 22. Really slick guns overall. I once saw a norse krag rebarreled into 308 and sporterized. (Nicely done by a professional shop in Canada). The fellow who had it said he never had issues with factory hunting loads. Must have been strong enough to handle 308 as it was obvious it had some use from finish wear. Not saying I'd build one, only that I have seen it done.
@MNM-lq9te
@MNM-lq9te 2 жыл бұрын
@@cs-rj8ru the word norse is for old scandinava when the people used to be vikings and such, so calling it a norse krag is a bit silly. Its a Norwegian krag, Norway wasn't a country during the norse age
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 2 жыл бұрын
@@MNM-lq9te to be fair to history, Sweden wasn't a single country either in the migration and 'dark ages' prior to the middle ages, until forced to unite in face of Danish interference with the various lines of succession in the three-ish kingdoms that became Sweden XD
@ricardo3760
@ricardo3760 6 ай бұрын
The wet cartridges that shifts the impact is only true for the DFS Krags, military Krags didnt have this problem, because the front and rea sight were both on the barrel
@ricardo3760
@ricardo3760 6 ай бұрын
​@@cs-rj8ruThe Krag action is stronger than what it's given Credit for. You could also get them in 8x57js, from Kongsberg våpenfabrikk
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 6 жыл бұрын
How you didn't sprain your elbow moving rifles up and down, off the table all episode playing musical rifles, I will never know.... My God, that was convoluted! You guys nailed it though. As if you wouldn't...... Great job.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have almost lost enough weight to be back in my kilt. Does that mean i can come play?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 6 жыл бұрын
Any day of the week, my friend. Wait,...... What tartan is it?....... Don't say it's MacIntosh,..... I can't stand MacIntosh..... Please don't be MacIntosh.... or that yellow McLeod tartan....
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 6 жыл бұрын
I know I'm just a third party involved in this... But I can't help Fanboy/geeking out seeing two of my top ten channels interacting. That said, I'd agree that McLeod yellow is a better pick.
@leavemealoneyoutube1707
@leavemealoneyoutube1707 6 жыл бұрын
C&RSenal and BritishMuzzeloaders joint video? Make this happen!
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 6 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders ROBERT, WHERE IS MY FOOD DEHYDRATOR!?
@SM-lg4tw
@SM-lg4tw 6 жыл бұрын
1:07:03 General Flagler doesn't die until 18999, and you couldn't even get him in for an interview?
@XShifty0311X
@XShifty0311X 6 жыл бұрын
S M Flagler is too busy messing around writing lists for new changes to service weapons.
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 6 жыл бұрын
General Flagler is according to his time line at least, a little busy with Morlocks.
@lolz36235
@lolz36235 6 жыл бұрын
i think is more incredible that they know when hes gonna die, you got a time machine back there guys?
@thurin84
@thurin84 6 жыл бұрын
his medical life support equipment was to bulky to fit in the studio.
@kaylt.7864
@kaylt.7864 5 жыл бұрын
@@lolz36235 hes already dead, just in the future.
@ST-zm3lm
@ST-zm3lm 6 жыл бұрын
“This is a very delicate arrangement.” *Violently taps on it*
@ST-zm3lm
@ST-zm3lm 2 жыл бұрын
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Whoosh
@coolwhip2079
@coolwhip2079 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather left me his “moose gun” as he used to call it. I found out a few years ago it is a Krag Jorgensen....thank you so much for all of the amazing information.
@ejbrush
@ejbrush 6 жыл бұрын
The magazine does not wrap around the rifle like a taco. The magazine wraps around the rifle like a piece of warm lefse.
@Kraakesolv
@Kraakesolv 4 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it.
@georgiobenelli4854
@georgiobenelli4854 3 жыл бұрын
AKA a bullet burrito
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 3 жыл бұрын
A taco-lefse? (aka a tortilla)
@twinleaf3076
@twinleaf3076 3 жыл бұрын
@@HrHaakon Potetlefse
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 3 жыл бұрын
@@twinleaf3076 Those have negative structural integrity and we both know it.
@perciusmandate
@perciusmandate 6 жыл бұрын
“Because people complain whenever the US adopts anything.” *** glock fanboy squeals in the distance ***
@DoGTripwire
@DoGTripwire 6 жыл бұрын
Ah nice, an hour and 46 minutes of Othias' calming voice to talk me to sleep. Yes I listen to these to go to sleep, then usually rewatch in the morning.
@northumbriabushcraft1208
@northumbriabushcraft1208 4 жыл бұрын
TrippyMcGuire556 That is exactly what I did last night Now I'm gonna rewatch this too
@EmyrDerfel
@EmyrDerfel 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Mae's firing wake you up?
@toothlessgrin04
@toothlessgrin04 3 жыл бұрын
So that's how he has such high numbers in views 😆😆😆😆
@toothlessgrin04
@toothlessgrin04 3 жыл бұрын
@feelings Are Not Arguments hahahaha.... subconscious conversion to a pro 2nd amendment person.... love it!
@Biker_Gremling
@Biker_Gremling 6 жыл бұрын
*Finishes popcorn *Checks remaining time of the episode *Goes for a MUCH bigger bucket of popcorn
@georgiobenelli4854
@georgiobenelli4854 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget butter and garlic salt..
@TheAngelobarker
@TheAngelobarker 6 жыл бұрын
WAR WERE DECLARED -Othias 2017 colorized
@rebecamugwort862
@rebecamugwort862 5 жыл бұрын
Angelo Barker That footage is my favourite part of a primer episode! Sorry Mae...
@calliejinx4675
@calliejinx4675 6 жыл бұрын
This episode is nearly longer than the service life oh the rifle!!
@joebuchanan9563
@joebuchanan9563 4 жыл бұрын
FUNNY!
@Stalinlover-jx1jy
@Stalinlover-jx1jy 4 жыл бұрын
In Norway we used these beauties until '45.
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 2 жыл бұрын
And longer than the service life of the M2 Hyde submachine gun...
@2pugman
@2pugman Жыл бұрын
I have two Krags and learned a few things from this video.
@kaneo1
@kaneo1 5 жыл бұрын
1:29:43 "...as complete a story as you are going to get For Now." Single-item documentary with minuscule staffing and budget. Longer and more detailed than most well-staffed and well-funded 'professional' documentaries. Bravo, team, Bravo!
@mikeryan9479
@mikeryan9479 6 жыл бұрын
This is my idea of heaven! Home after a hard day at work, boots off, baby asleep, wife reading her book , two new videos from my favourite KZbinrs and it’s on my favourite US rifle of all time ! Life is good! 🙂
@rjprescott4742
@rjprescott4742 6 жыл бұрын
I have followed your channel for over a year, and have gone back and watched every episode you did prior to my watching. I realized tonight a couple of things. I love the personal chemistry you two have together. May dresses exactly like my late wife did, and wears the same style of glasses she did. I look at your love of history, and your love of firearms, and I see my wife and I 30 years ago. The fact you ride motorcycles, and my wife and I met at a motorcycle event only strengthens that feeling. Keep up the good work. I pray for your continued happiness. Love and Respect.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 6 жыл бұрын
I am glad to hear you remember her so fondly. They sound like wonderful memories.
@rjprescott4742
@rjprescott4742 6 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal they are.
@mmmriggs
@mmmriggs 6 жыл бұрын
1 hour 22 minutes until 'war were declared' that's a lot of effort put into making this episode :)
@doomimp4025
@doomimp4025 6 жыл бұрын
At 1 hour and 46 minutes, it's the "Krag-Jørgensen Movie".
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 3 жыл бұрын
My father in law told me when his grandfathers unit of the North Dakota ANG was mustered in and showed up for federal service in 1917- they were still carrying 1884 trapdoors.
@jittychitty
@jittychitty 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I was tuned on to your channel by Forgotten Weapons, and really enjoy your vids. They are long, but not boring and full of info... Thanks for your wonderful efforts!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 4 жыл бұрын
General Flagler is amazing, hes still alive and well at 184 years young in 2019 and won't pass away for 16,980 years....only Othias would know events yet to happen yet, so I trust these numbers
@stephenwoods4118
@stephenwoods4118 6 жыл бұрын
A more elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
@vidyaorszag
@vidyaorszag 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen Woods The civilised age of shooting up Hispanics and Native Americans.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 6 жыл бұрын
Without that era, we wouldn't have the movies Godfather II or Scarface, for better or worse.
@stephenwoods4118
@stephenwoods4118 6 жыл бұрын
Technically Spanish don't qualify as Hispanics in this enlightened age, they are simply White, and Philippinos are not Native Americians. they fought back quite effectively.
@thetruerift
@thetruerift 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know where the fuck you live but World War I (and the surrounding time period) weren't my idea of civilized.
@ronalddunne3413
@ronalddunne3413 6 жыл бұрын
Amen. And Filipinos and assorted yellow men. And bangin they wimmins. Actually the Spanish riflemen shot the hell out of our guys with their Mausers. As a result, Teddy was insistent upon a better and more powerful rifle for the US military...
@KJRUSS0
@KJRUSS0 6 жыл бұрын
I recently bought an 1898 Krag a couple months ago. I fell in love with it from the moment I handled it in the gun shop. Such a fun gun to shoot! Thanks for doing this review, I've been trying to read up more on the history of these guns and this video made my night!
@Deweyfd13
@Deweyfd13 6 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of them. One does nickel groups at 50 yards. Yes not long range but I haven't had much time on it yet. One of my favorite rifles by far.
@mountainbriarfarm5030
@mountainbriarfarm5030 Жыл бұрын
Same story here. Fell in love with it the moment I handled it at the store but had to walk away because I couldn't afford it. I thought I'd never see it again until this Christmas when that very same gun was gifted to me with an accompanying repro WWI leather cartridge pouch. needless to say I've been a very happy person for the past few days. The flag is too tall for my guncase too.
@Biggestfoot10209
@Biggestfoot10209 Жыл бұрын
@@mountainbriarfarm5030 I also have a 30-40 Kraig . It first belonged to my Grandfather who passed away in 1960 at 80 years old. My father then used it for deer till I was 15 , then he gave it to me. I’ve hunted deer with it ever since. I’ve taken 20 bucks with it and I have no idea how many does,foxes and coyotes with it. This last November after 10 years of not hunting do to work, I dropped a 220 pound 9 point with a 22 inch spread at 80 yards through thick brush in his tracks. I’m 65 years old and hope it made my Dad smile down on me and say, good job my son.
@ForgottenMan1
@ForgottenMan1 4 жыл бұрын
This was a really deep dive into Krag history, I learned a lot. As to Mae's hiccup with loading the round that hung up, the answer, roundnose bullets; the Krag doesn't always play well with spitzers in a few places and she found that one . Outstanding video.
@furgy425
@furgy425 4 жыл бұрын
The 1st rifle I was taught to hunt with was the 30-40 Krag that my great grandfather brought back from WW1 and a 30-6 Springfield as well. He shipped both guns to Idaho, in 1919 the Krag was still in its original form when I hunted Dear and even Elk with it (got my 1st Bull Elk with the 30-40) The Krag was stolen from his truck in 1973 and until that day I had never seen him cry, it was like he lost a good friend.
@thetau4866
@thetau4866 3 жыл бұрын
Its a rare, priceless rifle thats now probably rotting away in someone's basement, I'd cry too
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
... but he did get close the day his wife died! 😉
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 2 жыл бұрын
@Furgy Out of curiosity, do you happen to know the serial number of that Krag your great-grandfather had that was stolen? Because, with a rifle like that... It might just pop up again. I mean, yeah, it's a long shot, but can you imagine how awesome it would be if you could track it down and get reunited with that rifle? Of course, I'm guessing that your great-grandfather is no longer with us given the amount of time that has passed, so it probably won't give closure to him, but... I'm sure he would've wanted you to have the rifle anyways, and it would be something to remember him by. Also, if you check out milsurp and curio & relic forums and whatnot and put a word out about your Krag... You never know. Maybe someone bought it at some point in a face-to-face in the 1980s or something and has no idea it was stolen.
@Shrapnel82
@Shrapnel82 2 жыл бұрын
There's no honor in killing someone who doesn't have the same ability to fight back, and doesn't agree to the fight.
@derekbrogan4241
@derekbrogan4241 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine how much this channel will blow up when they hit ww2
@scottboyd785
@scottboyd785 6 жыл бұрын
derek Brogan And then the Korean War Krags ! 😂
@jackandersen1262
@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын
Scott Boyd there were Springfield 1903 rifles used by the US trained FAL (Laotian Armed Forces) in Vietnam. (Though I believe only for training purposes).
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 4 жыл бұрын
@derek_Brogan Well, the channel has been demonetized now. The future is looking grim.
@galbas78
@galbas78 6 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video! I hate to say it though General Daniel Flagler didn't die. according to the video he is still quite alive and not expected to die for a few thousand years. 1835- 18999.
@XShifty0311X
@XShifty0311X 6 жыл бұрын
galbas78 Flagler has gone onto other bureaucratic endeavours, writing and updating the US tax codes
@rebecamugwort862
@rebecamugwort862 5 жыл бұрын
He’s the guy behind the design changes of the sonic screwdriver.
@mitchelloughman8382
@mitchelloughman8382 6 жыл бұрын
As an amateur gun enthusiast and collector (my collection is comprised of sole 1899 krag carbine) this video has made me so happy it’s hard to describe. I️’m only a senior in highschool and my krag is my prized possession, so to see such a long video on it is just the best. Thank you so much Mae and Othais and everyone at C&Rsenal!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Snowman1510ify
@Snowman1510ify 6 жыл бұрын
Happy hunting, I worked my ass of for a garand in HS now I am way into the double digits years later.
@Fir3fight3rGamr
@Fir3fight3rGamr 6 жыл бұрын
Double check that Krag. I've seen many sporters being passed off as carbines.
@SwornHeresy
@SwornHeresy 6 жыл бұрын
Mitchel Loughman Wow similar story here. I have a sporterized 1898 Krag and it's my rarest gun by far. I have a Yugo M48 and a sporterized 1917 Enfield. Once you start, you really don't want to stop. As soon as I turn 21 I'm getting a Curios and Relics FFL.
@jeanpaulfrazier7151
@jeanpaulfrazier7151 6 жыл бұрын
Mitchel Loughman , I got my frist rifle in highschool ,and it to was a krag ,still have it too this day I'm now 50 ,keep it give it to your grandson
@royottodyrli
@royottodyrli 5 жыл бұрын
There is one thing not mentioned here: This system give the soldier the ability to leave a panic round in the chamber while loading. This rifle stayed in use In the Norwegian army all the way up to 1940, when it was used for the 63 days of war with Germany. The Germans came with Mausers, while the Norwegians picked them off with Krags before the germans could hit the Norwegians. 1,317 Germens where KIA, while 1,604 was wounded. Although the Norwegians also used Kongsberg Colt 1911, Madsen machine-guns and Colt mitraljøse m/29 (Browning M1917), the Krag was the main gun in the Norwegian army, and was credited with a high number of long range head shots. After the fall of Norway in 1940, many German 2. line units where equipped with Norwegian Krag-Jørgensen, and Norwegian shooting clubs would use it for competition well in to the 1990ies.
@RhodokTribesman
@RhodokTribesman 4 жыл бұрын
It was mentioned in the video
@LateralTwitlerLT
@LateralTwitlerLT 3 жыл бұрын
He clearly talks about just that option from @ 24:20
@williamromine5715
@williamromine5715 Жыл бұрын
I am 80 years old, and got a number of deer with my father's 30.40 as a youngster. It was a sporterised gun, but dad finally had the barrel shortened because it was to long. It was a good big game gun, except for the drop at distance. Thank you for this video. It brought back a lot of memories.
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 3 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate that mae demonstrates the safety, the magazine cut off, and all the small things. Makes it more entertaining and better for learning about the rifles and firearms completely.
@mobilegoat1
@mobilegoat1 4 жыл бұрын
The Krag-jorgonson is a beautiful piece of art as well as a fine weapon for deer etc in my opinion that is .
@mahbriggs
@mahbriggs 3 жыл бұрын
In mine too! I have an old beat up 1898 carbine!
@darrinrentruc6614
@darrinrentruc6614 6 жыл бұрын
That was the most informative video on the Krag-Jorgensen I have seen. The time and research you guys put in before your videos is appreciated.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 6 жыл бұрын
good
@d4ngru5h83
@d4ngru5h83 5 жыл бұрын
Noice
@Dapstart
@Dapstart 3 жыл бұрын
ayy, jeff is that you?
@gpracer270
@gpracer270 5 жыл бұрын
I love how Mae really appreciates the beauty of the mechanics of the Krag, this is what I like about the Krag.
@michaelsanders4550
@michaelsanders4550 4 ай бұрын
I have an 1898 Carbine that I found in a trash can while I was a student at Brigham Young University in the 1960's. We were cutting grass in a married student housing area at the end of the school year. I spotted the rifle sticking out of a trash can and jumped off of my mower and grabbed it. There was no bolt. It was probably down in the trash can but I did not search for it. The rifle was covered in rust but I kept it. years later in South Carolina I found a bolt at a gun show. I have cleaned the rifle up and blued it. It also fires well with no problems. Ammunition has become so expensive that I will no longer fire it. I'm holding on to the few rounds I have for it. I noticed on your video that I have the rear sight mounted backwards. I will change that.
@o5245607
@o5245607 2 жыл бұрын
Mae did an awesome job shooting the Krag rifle and really enjoyed her smile when she was done like she really enjoyed shooting it. Great video.
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this had me in stitches....I've never seen such a long, convoluted process of constant change, missteps and strange decisions. Absolutely wonderful episode!
@MangyProtester
@MangyProtester 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I've talked to you on Reddit before and I just wanted to come here to say that I appreciate these documentary length videos on lesser known rifles, I'm looking into supporting you guys on Patreon again once I have finances sorted out.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it.
@bosstube9046
@bosstube9046 6 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal that Remington model 8 and Winchester 1907 self loader behind you sure look lonely I bet they'd love a video
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 6 жыл бұрын
The French THOUGHT about buying nine Remington Model 8s. Then did not....
@MangyProtester
@MangyProtester 6 жыл бұрын
Edit, holy hell there are a lot of variants of this rifle.
@bosstube9046
@bosstube9046 6 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal but the French did make use if the Winchester 1907/10 selfloaders and I just really wanna learn more about the model 8
@rainsilversplash4376
@rainsilversplash4376 5 жыл бұрын
Othias, I don't know why you keep apologizing for the "long video". I certainly hope you understand that we really appreciate the depth of your research, and for many of us, it is why we are here! The arms history that you present can not be found easily in any other single place. Keep them coming and you'll keep us coming back!
@theotherwaldo
@theotherwaldo 5 жыл бұрын
According to the original owner of the 1898 Krag in our local museum in Donna, Texas, the Krag was issued to railway engineers and train crews that were shuttling supplies to the front. This gentleman was a member of one of those train crews.
@thesinofpride9433
@thesinofpride9433 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Norway! I still have the Krag my great-great grandfather brought home from whaling in the southern atlantic! Manufactured 1910, 6.5x55mm, long infantry version. I still take it to the range sometimes, (reduced loads, of course) and it shoots like a dream! Can even compete with pretty expensive modern hunting rifles presicion-wise. It throws the hit point up and to the left if the cartridges get wet, but that can be remedied. Love that rifle!
@ericruff7026
@ericruff7026 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video. I recently inherited the model 1898 and when looking for more information, I stumbled upon this video. Thank you for your time and effort sharing all the history and evolution of this weapon. Very interesting indeed.
@LAX2hard
@LAX2hard 5 жыл бұрын
I initially tried to watch your Pedersen Device video but ended up here by heeding your advice. I haven't watched one of your videos in a while, but I'm happy to be back. I love the structure of your videos and all the information you provide in an engaging but at the same time holistically thorough manner. Every time I watch one of these videos I leave satisfied with answers to questions I did not know I had, as well as various starting points to conduct my own research. I am happy to have subscribed to your channel, I hope that there are many more videos to come even after World War One (Although I think the current pace is more than sufficient). Keep up the good work!
@Brzeczyszczykiewicz1
@Brzeczyszczykiewicz1 6 жыл бұрын
Krag truly is an amazing piece of history. I own a Norwegian 1894 Krag, it's really smooth and fast, especially when you use the Norwegian speed-loaders. Note for those of you having Norwegian rifles, don't use modern ammunition in these. Rifles are getting old, and there has been done tests that show modern loads might damage the rifle and in worst case explode in your face. Other than that it's a great rifle
@brettboyer8739
@brettboyer8739 4 ай бұрын
Hoe different can the "modern" loads be for a 30-40?
@jims9249
@jims9249 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! I've been looking forward to this one and it did not disappoint!Thank you,Othais and Mae and all who helped put this together.My Norwegian lineage has given me a fascination with this.The pros and cons of it as a battle rifle aside,they are unique and a pleasure to shoot-especially in its 6.5X55 version.My favorite is the Norwegian M1912/22 carbine.Thanks again and my poster order is in.:)
@heydoyourhomework
@heydoyourhomework 3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful series on WWI small arms. Your research and presentation is amazing. And what a wonderful addition to have Mae complement the whole thing with a rifle-woman's perspective. From your closeups to animations to range action, the production quality is extraordinary. And I love your sense of humor. Our family history is that my uncle had been able to find, through serial numbers, my grandfather's (his father's) WWI rifle while my grandfather was alive. It was acquired through the local veteran's association. The gun in our possession is a 1898 Krag. They shot it regularly. Anyway, Pop was AEF 37th Div, 1st Battalion, 146th Infantry, Company A which fought in the Meuse Argonne. He once told me how everyone in his trench except he and a buddy were killed by a mortar shell when they "went over the top" Sept 26 1918 at zero hour. He said it knocked him back into the trench like a rag doll and his buddy on top of him. Another of his grandsons once told him he was wrong and his service rifle wasn't a Krag. Pop humored him. That's not to say he was using the Krag at Muese Argonne and perhaps he used it in training. We won't ever know but since you brought the topic up, I thought I'd add his story to your collection of accounts. After watching your series, I now have an appreciation for Pop's Krag and, for that matter, my uncle's M1A (he is a Vietnam era veteran). It's a good thing you are doing with these productions.
@marksindustries567
@marksindustries567 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time educating people these things. Thrilled to see someone with genuine knowledge and passion for this .
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 6 жыл бұрын
This is longer than the netflix movie I intended to watch today.
@georgiobenelli4854
@georgiobenelli4854 3 жыл бұрын
But much better
@milgeekmedia
@milgeekmedia 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely hitting your rhythm with your camera presentation now, getting very polished. Very nice pace. So enjoying these videos, they have supplanted 'Forgotten Weapons' as my 'go to' watch on KZbin. Thanks for all the hard work.
@brianmccarthy5557
@brianmccarthy5557 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the background and the details you go through. I have a sentimental interest in this gun because of my great granduncle Jeremiah, my paternal grandmother's uncle, was not only the first of my Irish relatives to become an American citizen that I know of, but he was the one who inspired my grandmother to emigrate at the end of the Irish Civil War in the early 1920's. Uncle Jerry joined the American Army Infantry in the 1880's, served on the Great Plains, and continued his service through the Spanish American War of 1898 and the subsequent Phillipine Insurrection. He almost certainly used the rifle in that period though he probably used the .45-70 earlier in his service and for a longer period. All of us have copies of his service and pension certificates and his citizenship. If you're thinking Jeremiah is an odd name for a Cork Irish Catholic, he and my great grandfather were nephews of the great Irish Fenian Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa who he was named after. If you know Irish history, you know the name and what it means. If not, and you're somehow interested, Rossa has a halfway decent Wikipedia article and some biographies. Some of his books are also in reprints. In any case, I'm sentimental about this gun.
@rickdeclue3202
@rickdeclue3202 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you this is the best job on the U.S. Krag-Jørgensen Models 1892 - 1898 - 1899 rifle and all the updates. Keep up the all the great work
@bobbydodger
@bobbydodger 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Othais! This was an epic episode. I'm continuously gobsmacked by the research, preparation and delivery of your productions. I've been remiss in not saying so recently but this one put me over the top. I'm in for as long as you want to do them.
@davidegaleotti94
@davidegaleotti94 4 жыл бұрын
I love your one hour + episodes. They are great to fight back insomnia (I don't mean they are boring, just wonderful to relax learning new things).
@bunk95
@bunk95 4 ай бұрын
Insomnia is fictional. Youre trying to figure out how to [escape] your enslavement. What weapons you have? Slaves have put my name on a harbor, parkway and many streets near me and have an abandoned building we can try to make weapon systems in.
@davidegaleotti94
@davidegaleotti94 4 ай бұрын
@@bunk95 m'man Jean Paul Sartre, is that you?
@bunk95
@bunk95 4 ай бұрын
@@davidegaleotti94 its a picture of him but not him. Stop lying about preparing to kill and come over.
@ianwilcox3145
@ianwilcox3145 4 жыл бұрын
this is one of the best and most informative channels on youtube. You clearly care about your craft in all aspects. Thank you to you both.
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 6 жыл бұрын
This episode shows the true class of this channel.......... these people give blood, sweat and tears... Respect.
@willkriegforkartoffeln4878
@willkriegforkartoffeln4878 4 жыл бұрын
I missed this video for some reason. Better late than never. I enjoyed every second of this almost 2 hours, maybe just because the Krag is my favorite bolt gun (need to get myself one someday). Thanks friends.
@stevehuffman7453
@stevehuffman7453 3 жыл бұрын
smoothest cycling bolt action ever made. Wish I still had mine (darn theives/crooks) ... or could afford to get another in full military trim.
@TwentythreePER
@TwentythreePER 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently, in 1899 the world record elk at the time was killed near Crested Butte by John Plute with his .30-40 Krag. The antlers were kept until 1960 when they were finally measured and pronounced the new world record in 1961, a title which has only recently been re-taken by another elk from Arizona. I really enjoyed this episode because the smokeless powder, repeating rifle revolution was an exciting moment in history. I'm really looking forward to the next episode.
@garygenerous8982
@garygenerous8982 6 жыл бұрын
Wooo hour and three quarter episode on a single(ish) gun! Love it even if it cuts into sleepy times.
@EuropeYear1917
@EuropeYear1917 6 жыл бұрын
Ian McCollum and Karl Kasarda over @ InRangeTV really need to do a mud test on the Krag now...
@Snowman1510ify
@Snowman1510ify 6 жыл бұрын
Was really expecting a name drop there. I am tempted to do it to my 1896 (sportered so I won't cry)
@gustavoechevarria9369
@gustavoechevarria9369 4 жыл бұрын
Snowman1510ify UNSPORTERIZE IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
@braindeadgaming808
@braindeadgaming808 3 жыл бұрын
“Hey artha, i found some military rifles in this chest, we can sell em!” “Can i have one?” “Sure.”
@Hobgoblin4350
@Hobgoblin4350 6 жыл бұрын
A feature length movie on the Krag, awesome! I love this rifle. Thank you for putting so much work into this. I am dragging my 1898 Krag with the 1902 sight out to the range soon.
@alfredgallo4639
@alfredgallo4639 10 ай бұрын
I just picked up a 1902 Krag. I thoroughly enjoy all your videos and Mar’s comments. Thanks so much for providing us college like courses in gun history.
@eatwatukill
@eatwatukill 6 жыл бұрын
I got to say that when I see one of your videos, I feel like a kid waking up to Saturday morning cartoons. Thx for the knowledge
@amateurshooter927
@amateurshooter927 6 жыл бұрын
I shed a year every time I see a rack of Sporterised Krags at gun shows but not a single original military configuration rifle...
@thelegate8636
@thelegate8636 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Shermer A lot of the early Krags were sporterized by just cutting down infantry models to carbine length, and then set in carbine stocks. Those guns actually aren't too bad, especially since they were justifiably sporterized. Mine was a Depression era gun done by the NRA and sold so people could hunt for cheap. But no, I agree with you. It sucks to see Krags that were sporterized after the Depression
@kieranh2005
@kieranh2005 5 жыл бұрын
"I shed a year" You've discovered the secret to eternal youth? Gun shows? Do a few laps of the gun show and leave twenty years younger? You lucky bastard. I just leave poorer.
@dogman1117
@dogman1117 5 жыл бұрын
Since 2006 I have owned an 1898 carbine in full military outfitting. It has not been cut or sporterized.
@collectorduck9061
@collectorduck9061 5 жыл бұрын
@@kieranh2005 His youth is based on an eternal supply of sporterized Krags. So this is technically a request from him to see MORE sporterized krags
@Jeqavy_Wavy
@Jeqavy_Wavy 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Shermer Carbines look very similar to many sporters.
@markrowland1366
@markrowland1366 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with how much is involved in producing a military weapon. Thank you.
@ShadeAssault
@ShadeAssault 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video and all the time you put into it! I can't even imagine the amount of hours of research. I've always wanted a Krag - they're super interesting early bolt guns. Keep up the great work, you have no idea how much we appreciate it!
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 6 жыл бұрын
An hour 46? Oh hell - I'm excited for this one!!!
@linksbro1
@linksbro1 3 жыл бұрын
"Everyone's happy, and this is the final pattern, right?" *_William Crozier has entered the game._* "Seriously dude?" *Me:* "CROZIER YOU BASTARD!"
@clarkbono189
@clarkbono189 6 жыл бұрын
I wish it was longer actually. More info is longer. This is the best channel on the web, if anything there just isn't enough. Love this channel
@jpkalishek4586
@jpkalishek4586 6 жыл бұрын
okay, I finished watching it. Loved the "put in perspective" trick question with the comparison to the Lebel.
@rjohnson1690
@rjohnson1690 5 жыл бұрын
HA! My great grandmother’s brother arrived in France March of 1918 with the18th Engineers (Railroad). He very well may have been issued a Krag.
@snowwhite7677
@snowwhite7677 6 жыл бұрын
Hence back in the day, when you went to the Gun Store to buy some FMJ you would say "I would like a box of Eduard Rubins please."
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 6 жыл бұрын
I always love the gags put up on the walls...... the shape of things to come.... truly you tease.
@jelkel25
@jelkel25 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode, there's just something compelling about this rifle as there is in many of the less well known arms.
@BeefyRider
@BeefyRider 3 жыл бұрын
Allegedly, the only American Engineer outfit to help fight Kaiserschlacht was armed with Krags. Regardless of what they were armed with, their action was successful and blunted the attack in their sector. I think I read it in either "First Over There" or "With Their Bare Hands".
@Nebula-wu7qr
@Nebula-wu7qr 3 жыл бұрын
So I'm looking at this, and I just realized this is what Sgt Schultz uses in Hogan's Heroes
@timothycarey3509
@timothycarey3509 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this exhaustive and well-researched video. You all are doing a great service for the gun community!
@ryansalmons196
@ryansalmons196 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you so much for putting all of the work in to make this content!
@WasatchGarandMan
@WasatchGarandMan 6 жыл бұрын
>An hour and a Half video on the fucking Springfield Krag I love you Othais
@CSSVirginia
@CSSVirginia 6 жыл бұрын
Shifty I like your pic. Hope y'all get your own state.
@WasatchGarandMan
@WasatchGarandMan 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Crabbs ilu bb
@niklas2378
@niklas2378 4 жыл бұрын
the krag got a serious amount of sniper kills in the battle of Narvik. my grand-uncle participated in that battle, but he would never talk about it (I have a photo of him posing over a dead german soldier) he had serious post treumatic stress syndrome from that battle. the germans feared the norwegian krag so much that they issued a general warning to not stick their head out because norwegian sharp-shooters could kill them from 2000 meters distance. the krag fitted with a diopter sight was deadly accurate and most of norwegian men were part of local shooting-clubs. the krag was a fantastic rifle for its day and it proved its worth in the hands of the north-norwegian soldiers opposing hitler in his first true defeat during wwII
@vitkriklan2633
@vitkriklan2633 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that they issued a warning like this but I highly doubt than one would even engage the enemy at such distance with a Krag. Not mentioning you would have a hard time to get your hands on an optic capable of 2000m shooting at that time.
@joekerman194
@joekerman194 6 жыл бұрын
A 100 minute bumper special! You guys just made my day!
@Master...deBater
@Master...deBater Жыл бұрын
Mae was sooo cute in this episode! Without her glasses we got to see those beautiful eyes. And her hint of tentative nervousness was very endearing. Now...of course she's a consummate pro. Othais...ever the pro with that perfectly pruned beard. Thank you guys for all the great content!
@bosstube9046
@bosstube9046 6 жыл бұрын
That Remington model 8 and Winchester 1907 look awfully lonely on that rack behind you they could sure use a video
@alexandruianu8432
@alexandruianu8432 6 жыл бұрын
Are there any select fire French 1907 carbines in the US at all?
@bosstube9046
@bosstube9046 6 жыл бұрын
Alexandru Ianu I'm not sure I haven't really looked into the select fire 1907s
@jackandersen1262
@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын
Alexandru Ianu the Winchester 1907 video covers it but suffice to say, no select fire 1907 rifles were ever made by Winchester (the notion that they existed was most likely from an error during interpretation).
@JohnDoe-fu6zt
@JohnDoe-fu6zt 5 жыл бұрын
"Civilize 'em With a Krag!" A little information on the offensive song mentioned in the notes below: President McKinley had announced that it would be America's mission to "civilize, Christianize, and uplift" the Filipinos, not realizing that had been Christian for 400 years already. But that's why the soldiers were talking about "civilizing" them. I understand the song was actually banned by the U.S. Army. The tune is from a well known Civil War song, Tramp, Tramp, Tramp the Boys are Marching." In that land of dopey dreams, peaceful, happy Philippines` Where the bolo man is lurking night and day; Where Tagolos steal and lie; where Americanos die, There you hear the soldier sing this evening lay: Damn, damn, damn the Filipinos: Cross-eyed kakiak ladrones. Underneath our starry flag civilize 'em with a Krag, And return us to our own beloved homes. There's a second verse I don't remember, "Underneath the nipi thatch..." but you can Google it. Again, the song was actually banned by the U.S. Army, because the Filipinos ended up becoming some of the best friends the Americans ever had.
@hagelbocken3972
@hagelbocken3972 6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! thx for all the interesting info and comparisons between the different adjustments through the years :D It was well worth the time to watch ;)
@awolfalone2006
@awolfalone2006 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the history. I recently purchased a beautifully sporterized 1898 after loving my great grandfathers one my parents have been the caretakers of. I haven't even fired mine yet and am about to clean it for the first time. 120 years old and smooth as silk running that bolt.
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Would love to see a dedicated video on the other countries Krags (Given that you actually own these). Never seen a propper YT gun channel discuss the Norwegian or danish Krags, or review the gun and actually shooting them.
@LeArquebus
@LeArquebus 6 жыл бұрын
Ian at forgotten weapons have a video about the danish Krag.
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 6 жыл бұрын
And a occupation model of the Norwegian one. But they only discuss the rifles history and developement, not their practical use.
@krakendeamon
@krakendeamon 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Flagler 1835-18999 Wow. He lived a long time.
@whatTheFup
@whatTheFup 5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather had one of the Stomperud 6.5x55 models. Its now hanging on my cousins memory wall in our grandfathers honor. He used it alot in competitions
@barrythemailman
@barrythemailman 4 жыл бұрын
This was the best Krag video I've found , Thanks so much for the thoughtful and intelligent info.
@Tula1940_LB
@Tula1940_LB 6 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that the US was so far behind in the late 1800s yet had an amazing semi automatic service rifle as early as the 1930s (M1 Garand)
@rebecamugwort862
@rebecamugwort862 5 жыл бұрын
Logan Barnette That’s almost the only thing that the US army kept up to date, the rest of military hardly advanced at all until just before WWII. I remember reading of a young man who fled from Belgium just after the blitz. Moving to America he was amazed by how old fashioned the army was compared to Germany and the UK.
@williamprince1114
@williamprince1114 6 жыл бұрын
Mae & Othais Would you rather go to war with a American Krag, Norwegian Krag, or Danish Krag? Or other rifles of the early 1890s that saw use in WW1 like the Lee Metford, Mosin Nagant, Carcano, or Lee Paris?
@StepSherpa
@StepSherpa 6 жыл бұрын
for mae i think that is an easy question, The carcano 😝
@KombuchaPants
@KombuchaPants 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Love the length and thoroughness.
@christopherseivard8925
@christopherseivard8925 2 жыл бұрын
As an aside, these rifles regularly tuned up on the used racks at Cabela’s. If I had seen the story, I would be buying one!
@daemonofdecay
@daemonofdecay 6 жыл бұрын
A great looking gun with a fantastic name. Makes me want to buy some meatballs and buy some flat pack furniture. ... what do you mean that’s Sweden?
@filthyweaboo2694
@filthyweaboo2694 6 жыл бұрын
Well, when this gun was designed, Norway was still part of Sweden.
@jonasjeaggi4575
@jonasjeaggi4575 6 жыл бұрын
Heinz Guderian sweden-norway was a dual monarchy, norway had it's own parliament, army, etc.
@gullintanni
@gullintanni 4 жыл бұрын
@Paladine The Swedes shipped their Mauser flat packed with some assembly needed.
@gullintanni
@gullintanni 4 жыл бұрын
@Paladine They do aquire some assembly but they do come flat packed as well. Lol
@fleurdelispens
@fleurdelispens 6 жыл бұрын
wait, are you foreshadowing the 1903 springfield episode? I swear I heard a few veiled references to that gun in this episode
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 6 жыл бұрын
That or he has a 5 hour special on the Navy Lee lined up because he has found reference to use in a boarding action somewhere! ;{>
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 6 жыл бұрын
1903 a real rifle..............
@treerat7631
@treerat7631 6 жыл бұрын
fleurdelispens after spanish american war we said damed we need a muser.
@wikikomoto
@wikikomoto 5 жыл бұрын
i dont know whats more impressive, the fact that flagler will live for another ten thousand years, or the fact that he's already decided on what year he's going to give up the ghost
@crunchysuperman
@crunchysuperman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this excellent episode. This isn't a rifle I ever really followed that much, so there's a lot of great background here that I was totally unaware of. Learned a lot watching this.
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