History of WWI Primer 144: Spanish Mauser Carbines Documentary

[@AbbieOates]

Couldn't the inventors of cosmoline sponsor this channel? I'm sure a lot of the content wouldn't have been possible without it.

[@Zorglub1966]

They must be very very old, more likely very very dead. :D

[@MarkiusFox]

Probably look at Quaker Houghton (Houghton International). They still own the trademark for Cosmoline and were the one's that developed it...in the 1860s.

[@chekovsgunman]

@@Zorglub1966 Nah, they’ve been preserved in cosmoline.

[@Zorglub1966]

@@chekovsgunman :D

[@phprofYT]

Cosmoline? Reminds me I need to get some.

[@ditzydoo4378]

As to the rear "Staple". It is attached in much the same way as other early rear sling swivels. A groove is milled into the stock with an intersecting drilled hole. A staple/swivel with its threaded tab is pressed into the slot with the threaded hole bisecting the drilled stock hole. Under the butt-plate, or in some rifle/carbines as part of the butt-plate is a stock screw that transits through the rear of the stock and engages the threaded tab of the swivel. For a like type comparison to how it's mounted, look at the rear swivel of an 1898 US Krag.

[@glynwelshkarelian3489]

@@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 Nobody can say until Othias takes the butt plate off the gun and tells us there's no screw! Until then: what DitzyDoo says seems the best guess.

[@ditzydoo4378]

@@glynwelshkarelian3489 Thank you for saying so. As with any military grade arm. The weapon must lend itself to being rebuilt again and again. Thus why the sling swivel wouldn't just be hammered into the wood and left as is.

[@anthonyioane4438]

Wonderful video again. Sincerely a 15$ patron that has supported since 2016.

[@daveyoder9231]

Do like the thunder in the background. And Mae is a treasure!

[@TheSuvial]

Mi great grandfather fought in Melilla in 1911 and used the 1895 carbine as he was in the mounted artillery. Also his son, my great uncle, was drafted in 1937 and was issued the Oviedo 1916 carbine, which he used all the way until the end of the war in 1939

[@ronalddunne3413]

Which, Nat or Rep?

[@adriancampos8640]

@@ronalddunne3413 The good guys.

[@Dervitox]

​@@adriancampos8640 the nat I guess then

[@JerryEricsson]

Back in the late 1980's my sister and her family moved from Minnesota to North Dakota to live in the same town where I was working as a police officer. In Minnesota her husband and 3 sons used to hunt deer with shotguns, when they got to North Dakota they discovered that rifles were needed because of the lack of woods and wide open spaces where shots up to and exceeding 400 yards were common. Well I had an FFL back then and they were a bit short of funds after the cost of their move so one day they all came to my house an we opened up Shotgun News. They each chose a cheap surplus rifle, all former battle rifles and all well under a hundred bucks. Well I put in the order and when the guns came I simply handed them the boxes unopened. They all seemed happy, for my self I ordered an old Enfield #4 My brother in law also got one of those, his boys all ordered Spanish Mausers. On the outside these guns all looked like they were issued from an Arms Room, all nice clean and rust free. When season opened, we hit the prairie. Within 5 minutes my 303 took down a deer but my nephews were having a hell of a time. Finally I handed one of my nephews my .303 and shortly he had his deer, my rifle was passed onto my other nephews and soon they had theirs. My Brother-in-Law had his quickly as well. When we got back to town with our hanging sausage and cleaned the rifles I discovered the problem. All the 7mm were completely shot out, very shiny bores but smooth as a shotgun! Our 303's were as sharp as the day they were cut!

[@vernonfindlay1314]

The .303 Lee Enfield King of the Canadian woods. I have a P-14 that my Uncle Elmer owned, my son in law has my Uncle Burton's P-14.My brother has mark 4,great rifles,happy deer hunting 2021,from. Nova scotia.

[@moone924]

my first highnpower rifle with a Spanish 1916, it too had the barrel nearly shot out. I traded it off on a Swedish m38 later. Now I have another 1916 Spanish in much better condition too.

[@thrawn_wave4927]

Shame about those rifles!

[@letsmove1559]

P.s 308 great rifling for the 1916 Spanish matching numbers on barrel and action

[@2011woodlands]

For years the annual Brownells catalog had a disclaimer when it came to selling aftermarket barrels for people wishing to convert their original small ring mausers to more popular american cartridges such as ".308 winchester" explaining that the spanish 93s chambered for 7.62 cetme were not meant for higher pressure 7.62 Nato pressures.

[@dbmail545]

I remember seeing the FR-7 and FR-8 rifles chambered in 7.62x51 Nato had such a disclaimer. Still wish that I had gotten one.

[@endutubecensorship]

From what I understand, the FR-7 was a small ring mauser action for a lower pressure cartridge. The FR-8 was built on Mauser "98" 8x57 actions and can handle 7.62 NATO just fine.

[@Grobut81]

Thank you Mae. We were all very concearned about the pants question.

[@Gunsbeerfreedom87]

Mae needing to confirm Othais is actually wearing pants implies there have been times he has filmed pantsless. The larger question is; which episodes?

[@-oiiio-3993]

Only Crozier knows for sure.

[@zlatko8051]

The shortest length videos that’s that

[@carlistasycia]

The update of the sights for the new ammunition wasn't implemented simply because the new spitzer ammo wasn't actually adopted. Factories continued to produce the old pattern, and this is the kind of bullet that you can easily find Civil War battlefields. All kinds of bullets and cartridges can be found, but never spitzer 7mm.

[@Pcm979]

It's surprising to hear weather going on outside, after so many episodes I'd started to think of the set as existing in the Orange Dimension.

[@TheWalterKurtz]

And it is comforting to know Othais is wearing pants. There in the soup.

[@ockbinchang9446]

Mae: When shooting a straight stock rifle hold it with your right elbow high. My father taught me this 60 years ago. He shot a star gauge 1903 Springfield at Camp Perry in 1930. I love how much fun you’re having.

[@williamhart4896]

Those Mauser carbines are such lovely little rifles just perfect size for walking in the woods .

[@Lomi311]

I love the idea that there’s still so much information to uncover on these beauties.

[@MrLM002]

I gotta say I love rifles that have wood furniture that goes all the way to the muzzle. They just look so spiffy!

[@ixlr8677]

looks like its missin some barrel.

[@TenaciousTrilobite]

I think that saddle ring bar was placed by the same people that thought the wrist swivel on the M.95 carbine was a good idea.

[@samgeorge4798]

I guess they didn't have big bands back then.

[@kukelekuu]

24:14 why is Antonio Banderas taking a smoke break with Spanish civil war fighters in the upper right corner??

[@ixlr8677]

can almost smell the bo comin off that crew. whew wee/

[@jbigg43971]

I just read George Orwells "Homage to Catalonia", about his service during the Spanish civil war. He briefly talks about the weapons they were issued. Forgive the length of the passage but I think you'll find it interesting. He also mentions one bolt blew up when the rifle was fired. I wonder if it was an out of battery detonation from a double feed. "There were three types of rifle in use. The first was the long Mauser. These were seldom less than twenty years old, their sights were about as much use as a broken speedometer, and in most of them the rifling was hopelessly corroded; about one rifle in ten was not bad, however. Then there was the short Mauser, or mousqueton, really a cavalry weapon. These were more popular than the others because they were lighter to carry and less nuisance in a trench, also because they were comparatively new and looked efficient. Actually they were almost useless. They were made out of reassembled parts, no bolt belonged to its rifle, and three-quarters of them could be counted on to jam after five shots. There were also a few Winchester rifles. These were nice to shoot with, but they were wildly inaccurate, and as their cartridges had no clips they could only be fired one shot at a time. Ammunition was so scarce that each man entering the line was only issued with fifty rounds, and most of it was exceedingly bad. The Spanish-made cartridges were all refills and would jam even the best rifles. The Mexican cartridges were better and were therefore reserved for the machine-guns. Best of all was the German-made ammunition, but as this came only from prisoners and deserters there was not much of it. I always kept a clip of German or Mexican ammunition in my pocket for use in an emergency."

[@happyundertaker6255]

Definitely the thunder in the background improves the ambience. Its sorta frontline-y👍

[@jamesharmer9293]

That was thunder? I thought it was Othais's stomach rumbling in anticipation of supper ...

[@StacheMan26]

The 1895 carbine very much up there in on the list of guns that I want. As are most of the deliberately smooth cavalry carbines of that era, the flush muzzle just does something for me.

[@davidhansen5067]

Finally getting around to this one. It's exciting to see bits of history outside what we've already explored. Get well, crew, we'll miss you while you're recovering.

[@dbmail545]

I have always liked the looks of those, but after shooting a couple of Mosin M44 carbines I have to wonder what 7x57 is like out of a gun that short and light. Mae handles it pretty well. Seems like an abrupt and stout recoiling little piece.

[@Sman7290]

Nowhere near as bad as the M44.

[@webtoedman]

"An abrupt and stout recoiling little piece". How dare you refer to Ms Mae in such terms? You, Sir are no gentleman.

[@Michaelmackdonald]

I dont mind the recoil is mild with a 7x57

[@seanbaker9796]

The rear sling bars on the side of the butt stock are a flat piece of metal with a hole inside of the stock. Under the butt plate there is a "nail" that keeps it from sliding out.

[@danisaladiesman]

Finally a gun KZbin video with a gun I actually own! My first gun purchase ever was a 1916 Spanish Mauser in 7mm Mauser and I love it to this day. Don’t always watch all of these videos but had to watch this one, thank you for the content!

[@boingkster]

Minor note. When loading from the strip you don't need to remove it to close the bolt. Closing the bolt levers it up and out of the charging bridge, removing it cleanly from the rifle. This has worked for me on my 1909 Argentine many times and makes for a quick, clean reload.

[@Ogranium]

They do that with Mauser clips to avoid losing them/unnecessary damage to the clips. They’re well aware that the bolt kicks out the clip.

[@shawnomack3927]

Who cares?

[@webtoedman]

@@shawnomack3927 Persons who load Mausers?

[@jameshealy4594]

@@shawnomack3927 I would have assumed anyone watching this show, but apparently not!

[@SangTheCryptek]

I've done it.....after a couple months, I have finally watched this entire Primer playlist...

[@Lomi311]

The great thing is it takes so long that you can start it all over and it doesn’t feel too fresh, lol. I did 2 all the way and just bump around now

[@chasejohnson1122]

i love the snubby look of the barrel, carbines are the best

[@antoniocuba1970]

Information about the crests and the meaning of their different symbols would make a good addition to the video content.

[@johnfulmore6673]

Thanks!

[@Candrsenal]

Thank you

[@robertsantamaria6857]

Return of the Old Mausers Channel. Can never have enough old Mausers.

[@veilsixclaw]

Sweet! The perfect thing to go to bed to, then watch again tomorrow!

[@AbbieOates]

I do this more then I probably should. I wish they had a podcast to fall asleep to.

[@Freeman_Gunner]

@@AbbieOates they do for patrons

[@carsonf1484]

The final edition was actually the FR-8, which was made on an 1898 action. The FR-7 was made on the 1895 action. I think this is where a lot of the question about whether or not the surplus rifles can handle .308 Win. Not because the 1895 action shouldn't be able to handle the pressures, but I think Spanish metallurgy in production of those actions wasn't quite as good as it was by the time they were producing '98 actions. Just a guess though. The FR-8 also has the CETME style rotary style rear peep sight, as opposed to the 1943 style leaf sight.

[@blueduck9409]

Im right there with you man on your assessment of the 1916 Spanish Mauser. Its a top contender and very over looked.

[@plasmacity35]

Another great episode guys! Much love🙏

[@smithy356]

The rear sling mount is attached via a pin that drives into a hole in the sling mount. The pin is hidden under the butt plate.... It's a pain to get some pins out, but it's a very simple, strong and effective idea.

[@Drexus76]

These actually went up in general $100 since corona, I was going to get one last March but found a Brazilian vz 24 instead, still want one though, 7x57 is sweet.

[@stephenrick6672]

I really appreciate your attention to detail on these old firearms. I learn a lot from your videos. Thanks to both of you and your team.👍👍👍!

[@USOtaku013666]

Another excellent episode. Keep up the good work.

[@enfieldunderscore41]

When will the "We live in soup" t-shirts be available for purchase?

[@Drew4078]

Fantastic video my friend! I just love watching your lady shooting these awesome rifles. Wonderful gal you have there!

[@mikepette4422]

not gonna be my fav episode ever but its a great rifle family and very under appreciated

[@charleykeenan6171]

Wow! You guys never fail to impress 👏 Thanks for a great presentation on one of my favorite rifle patterns in one of my favorite configurations! Happy Tuesday and thanks again!

[@bkreed27]

I have one of these 1895 Carbines. Interestingly it was brought back from Germany at the end of WWII by a GI who "liberated" it from a private home. He also took a cavalry saber from the same house and he gave them to me as a pair although there's no reason to think they're related.

[@rocksandoil2241]

Ha- love the Spanish music as Mae shoots the Mauser

[@gobangs1117]

The biggest problem that I am aware of regarding the firing or 308 Win through the 1895 Carbine is not with the ability of the action to withstand but rather the rather slim wooden stock. Cracked stocks seem to be common which is why I am restocking mine with a Swedish M38 stock. Also I shoot reduced handloads to counter recoil and high point of impact.

[@murraycottrell4533]

Around 1970ish a lot of surplus Spanish 92 carbines turned up in New Zealand in 7.62 Win, at a price that I could not refuse. But it could not hit the side of a barn and some were key holing, on giving it a full clean on inspection I found that the barrel appeared, badly broached from 7mm so I slugged the barrel only to find a huge burr in the bore under the front sight. There was a rivet looking pin in a drilled hole underneath the front sight, allowing it to rotate slightly, I cleaned up the burr, made a fatter pin, from memory the barrel was shorter than the standard. It could now almost do 5 inch groups at 100 yds, it had a lovely balance but an awful noise and blast so I flicked it off

[@3ducs]

I think you will find that there is a butt plate screw that secures the "staple', ala the M1 Garand/M14. Shame about the new chip out of the stock, hope you still have it so it can be glued back.

[@trevormott8872]

I got an 1895 carbine early this year and it quickly became one of my favorites. It's been rechambered and I have been running 308 through it and it seems to hold up. (Knock on wood and wear eye pro). It shoots one he'll of a fireball and kicks like a mule, I love it!

[@outinthesticks1035]

I read a book by a old time smith , forget his name but he was very respected in his day . He said years back the small ring Mausers were one of the most popular actions to use for a custom rifle in 270 . That he would never use one now but back in the day they did get used and seemed to stand up , so it does not surprise me that they hold up in a 308 . But that was not Spanish Mausers , I think I recall him saying Mexican and swede

[@pluma8547]

At home, the National Parks Service in the San Juan National Historical site received a large amount of Spanish archive data a few years ago that they've been slowly getting to. Was thinking of rummaging there at some point.

[@awokado5710]

Amazing new episode!

[@jsma9999]

thank you Henry for loan ,Thank you Micheal for Photos in Primer 143 and thanks for Film, what it width Othas Paints (trousers) Mae

[@keithmoore5306]

if i heard right that rear sling mount is made like a square nail Oathis and if you've ever tried to pull a square nail out of wood you'll understand why they used that method!! i've destroyed more than one pallet slat trying to pull square nails!!

[@mattzegarski3831]

I know this is not an original post, but I LOVE the thunder noise!

[@Danheron2]

I don’t know if he ever used this but My grandfather has a picture of him holding one of these during the Spanish war I think the 1916 that he took from a woman during a battle, It’s in a city I don’t know were but he’s posing on a bench next to his brother with the rifle and the girls head.

[@ixlr8677]

womens lib.

[@Danheron2]

@@ixlr8677 lol I guess you could say that

[@gus23a]

You should really do an episode on the Chassepot needle rifle. Almost every rifle you have shown so far has one or two elements of the Chassepot left in it!

[@norpino7704]

I have one of the 1916 that were rechambered in 7.62 nato. One of my most favorite surplus gun I have only problem I have it developed a crack in the wrist and I can’t find a new stock or it . Also the fittings are a little loose but love the handiness and it’s light recoil.

[@zacharybates7375]

Does yours have any markings on the chamber area of the barrel? I also have one have been trying to track down original manufacture date but I have no markings on the barrel except for the import electro-pencil markings.

[@norpino7704]

The only marking I have on my is the one at 27:01 in the video

[@michaelrieber4858]

Glad I rewatched this video. I just got a 1916 chambered in 308. Thanks for the warning to use a lite load in it

[@xyz-g3w6b]

8:13 -- That slow-mo ... never gets old 😂💛

[@CopyCatCo]

The overlay of the recoil between the rifle and the carbine was a very nice comparison!

[@bobbywattz3050]

Thanks for the video They're definitely the hardest company to get a hold of into order from!!!

[@stephengoodwin6403]

the Spanish army was notorious for not cleaning their rifles.When troops were sent to punish the Rif after the disaster at Annual in 1920,they had rifles that had not been cleaned since 1911.That said,my first rifle was an 1893 carbine made in 1897.I paid $17.00 of hard earned yard cutting wages for it in 1973

[@whiskeyinthejar24]

I have an 1893 Carbine. Matching number bolt. I think it's the original style sight. Sadly it's been butchered over the years. No muzzle cap. No top handguard. Stock has been snapped at the grip and glued/bolted back together. Bore seems ok. Pretty tempted to buy a Boyd's stock for it, as it's pretty fun to shoot.

[@peteraffm]

@26:30 Debate about using M1916 with .308 Winchester: Yesterday I came across an M1916 re-chambered "Cal 7,62" with the crest of Guardia Civil. It has a flat magazine plate (like an K98k). The barrel has matching numbers to the entire rifle, so it seemed to be from the original re-chambering. What would help you on the matter of "7,62 NATO vs .308 Winchester" is the following: The gun was officially proof-shooted in Germany and bears the markings ".308 WIN" & "Eagle-proofmark" . So, the "old" rifle was officially deemed "save" for .308 Hope this helps, regards, Peter

[@tatumergo3931]

Most experts attest to the ruggeness of the rifle to easily withstand the .308 caliber power easily.

[@bobleverknight9410]

I bet that side mount front sling attachment and the swivel rear would've been highly sought after by troops on the ground it would've been the easiest to comfortable move with while slung I think. As far as having the weapon in a readish position.

[@thespecialbru]

Yet another snub nose carbine that my gun closet needs, THANKS C&R!

[@BobcatSchneidermann]

7x57 carbines are just neat!

[@pablogonzalezalonso885]

-El 7x57 es un calibre excelente.Yo aun lo uso para cazar y me va de maravilla.

[@rigovega7115]

Es el calibre perfecto

[@Dervitox]

Las balas son dificiles de encontrar

[@pablogonzalezalonso885]

@@Dervitox -Bueno,solo hay que buscar un poco.

[@shootingwithmitch5921]

Another great vid, keep em coming guys!!

[@Jagdtyger2A]

The spitzer sight changes may not have been done on the rear sight, but by simply changing the height of the front blade sight

[@r.guerrero9063]

It would be possible a video comparing Spanish 1895 carbine and Swedish M/94 ?.Thanks in advance.

[@kregchrist2826]

great show

[@fien111]

"Chibi G98" might be the most cursed thing I've heard all week. Damn you Othias.....

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

This guy looks handy. Love it.

[@carlistasycia]

1895s were quite popular with motorcicle liason troops in the Civil War. They were carried in scabbards.

[@jcorbo7518]

I have a Guardia Civil in 7.62 CETME. I've shot 7.62 NATO, and this amazing blue German training ammo thats plastic and loaded down. I wouldn't want to be shot by it, but it is much lighter on the recoil and makes the rifle so much more fun to shoot! Esp since I have a hairline crack in the stock and don't want it to grow

[@bhoward9378]

2 things I love: milsurps and dorking out on obscure info about milsurps. Thank you C&Rsenal!

[@Khanclansith]

I have mine (Surplus 7.62x51 Franco Era Guardia Civil arsenals Refurbish of a 1916) and I love it.

[@garyK.45ACP]

These are GREAT hunting rifles as is. In the late 80s, when the import of military arms was allowed again after being banned in 1968, I bought an 1894 Swedish Mauser carbine for a really good price, virtually identical to the Spanish model, but in 6.5x55mm. It was such a great deer rifle it almost bumped my Savage 99/.300 Savage out of first place as my favorite deer rifle. Almost. Unfortunately the values of these now almost rule out using them as a deer rifle. Too many other good options for less cost.

[@Danheron2]

Lol my jadd (grampa) would use his old one for hunting dear in the mountains near were we live my family used to joke about how he needed glasses to read but could drop a buck at 600 yards with iron sights

[@thurin84]

the thunder sounds like an artillery barrage for "the big push" so is entirely appropriate lol. "i would put peanuts in here." i sense another "ian cant othias" episode!!!

[@charlene2400]

I have the 1916, and it kicks like an angry mule. Mine's one of the rechambered to 7.62 NATO models from 1981-82, has the Guardia Civil crest on it. I download for it, using 7.63 Arg data, to make it handle more like original. :)

[@brettanderson6743]

Not sure if the question about the rear side sling mount has been answered. It is held in place by a nail from the rear. Removing the butt pad reveals it clearly.

[@victorlacas6649]

I'm glad we're back to the "Mauser rifles and .32 ACP pistols" C&Rsenal people know and love. Joking aside HOW MANY MAUSER VARIANTS EXIST!? It really shows the importance of this line of rifles in history.

[@mp6163]

Just curious if Mae ever gets a bruise on that shoulder. It takes a beating with pre-rubber buttpad designs.

[@ixlr8677]

shes tougher than a pine knot.

[@johnjunge6989]

Othias, I have what is supposed to be a 1916 Spanish Mauser. But it has side slings and other than a serial number, no markings whatsoever. I read some were sent out with nothing but serial number. It start s with OT-(5 digit #) and says its a designated for 7.62 x 51 NATO. I read they were scratch built by Olvido Arsenal. Can you confirm?

[@adolfocanales926]

Preciosa la tercerola y la carabina de caballeria, yo tengo una carabina mauser modelo chileno 1895, muy similar a la española y operativa en 308.

[@acester86]

I really wish I'd jumped on one these back when JG sales had them....

[@baylog9679]

I just picked up my first mauser today and it's one of these , unfortunately it has been sporterized.

[@tatumergo3931]

What a shame, if only one could go back in time and tell them that they would have more value as an original.

[@leonhart2452]

What you refer to as a thumb cut to ease loading is not correct. If you research Mauser patent drawings and descriptions you would find the cut out is for letting escaping gas from a case rupture to exit at the cut instead of back into the shooters face.

[@brucerobert227]

Regarding the rain....welcome to The South - Greetings from upstate SC!!!

[@2011woodlands]

I have seen at least 4 different type of rear sights for the 1916 short rifle 93 series mausers over the years, some being the 7.62 cetme conversions. Still the most common mauser for sale at gun shows in the midwest, and usually the most sporterized.

[@waltermachnicz5490]

This particular rifle seems, excellent in loading the stripped clip and in smooth bolt action and comfortable recoil. Was this a great sample, Mae's skill, many takes or my imagination?

[@rolliskarvellis6254]

Nothing to add other then thank you for the interesting video.

[@Mophonic]

nice collection

[@Nick_792]

I did own a spsnish 1916 made in oviedo in 1922. It didn't cycle rounds correctly and the barrel was worn out. I sold it and later bought a beautiful Argentine 1891 long rifle. It was well worth the sell. I mostly see spanish 1916s in 308 at shops.

[@Phlostonparadise2971]

Sounds like mine. Looked rough and shot rougher, often popped rounds out of the magazine too early, and wouldn’t tolerate anything other than very pointy spitzers to feed. I traded it to a friend for a well used but high quality skateboard, which I ended up getting hundreds of miles out of.

[@HandFromCoffin]

I think this is the fist time I've heard you two mess around like a couple. You're both usually all business :) Like seeing the personal side. It was a looong time watching before I knew you two where a couple and you usually never let on.

[@dmg4415]

I think Mauser would be a perfect sponsor!

[@thomasmanson1119]

Boy, Mae really enjoys racking that bolt! :)

[@Chocoboranger]

I've seen more broken longa than ladders. dropping the rifle usually folds the ladder down. The longa just has to tank it.

[@ErkCarlson]

I lost it when Othais called it a chibi.

[@brendonbewersdorf986]

The Spanish Mausers are kind of underrated I love the long rifle though carbines are handy but the long guns are such fun to plink around with