Historian Gets Mad at Call of Duty VANGUARD | Tobruk 1941

[@historylegends]

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[@kingkhieu]

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[@ashtonkamien8542]

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[@abiyusadu9974]

turns out theres 4 dudes who wrote this horribly/historically inaccurate campaign List: - Stephen Rhodes - Sam Maggs (the ***girl*** in charge(yeah its actually a woman so sorry about that)) - Tochi Onyebuchi - Brent V. Friedman weird names btw :P

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Please get Hidden & Dangerous 2, play it and give us a video review of what you think.

[@nemicofitid3617]

As an Italian I felt pissed too when they ignored all of us in ww2 I wished they made an axis perspective campaign with Italy but it’s too complicated for those smooth brains at activision

[@UnknownLord711]

Yeah it sucks how basically only the beginning call of duty’s if i remember correctly

[@Antonio_DG]

No, la questione è politica e quindi voluta, non c'è nulla di cattivo dietro ma la volontà di non metterci fra i "cattivi"

[@paulnolan8964]

@@Antonio_DG at least cod big red 1 had Italians in it there's a whole campaign I it why can't those so called history buffs at cod remember that there were other countries besides Germany and Japan that fought in a WORLD WAR

[@paulnolan8964]

It's really sad that a game 17 yrs old knows more about WW2 history than the brains at Activision today

[@Antonio_DG]

@@paulnolan8964 7 nations, but never had any hope of victory, so much so that Spain never officially entered the war, sent soldiers to Russia but withdrew them before the collapse of the front, occupied France too, were the largest number of foreigners in defense of Berlin. Of course, if it hadn't been for the USA with their arms factories also sold to the Soviets it would have lasted longer, an example was the Mediterranean, there was the Italian fleet and 65 German submarines against the UK ... all commonwealth nations , other occupied European nations, eventually even the USA, the Axis never had a chance to win.

[@Adrian-vz8ik]

Ah yes, Libya, an Italian territory, where an important war is fought between Allies and Germans, but without Italians obviously.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

the italians realised it was all for nought and thought to themselves "fuck it, let the germans handle it, who wants lunch?"

[@samuelegiuliani9492]

@@4T3hM4kr0n No It didn't go like this plus the Italians covered the retreat all the way from El Alamein to Tunisia so yeah. Plus in 1941 there were still more Italians then germans in North africa

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

@@samuelegiuliani9492 you failed to realize the context of the comment

[@dani32_mbt10]

@@4T3hM4kr0n really?

[@megumifushiguro5510]

@@samuelegiuliani9492 ma era ironico😂

[@Pretosama]

Imagine being Italian and having the History of your country rewritten by some Activision weirdos, shameful

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

honestly its insulting to both the italains, and everyone who fought the italians. ''oh your fight against the italians, not interesting. we'll have you fight germans instead!"

[@fabiospasiano9885]

I’m fucking angry, as an Italian I want to play as the brave soldiers of WW2.

[@bianconos3967]

I am, and I prefer this than see our soldiers dehumanized ad the germans

[@Benefartamemia]

porco bio

[@IamSoulfuller]

@@bianconos3967 but it is a history event. It has to be realistic, otherwise, it’s a fiction

[@Leo-pz5ge]

The Italians always seem to be forgotten. It's like the companies have something against them . When a game company decides to do Sicily, I'm just waiting for the main troops to be Japanese 😅

[@dman8115]

Yeah, I would love to see games about Italian units, like the Italian Armored Divisions in North Africa, or the Alpini in Russia. That would be so fun

[@Leo-pz5ge]

@@dman8115 As well as North Africa, a mission based on the Battle of Petrikowka where Italian troops faced the Russians on the Eastern Front would be quite nice. But then again it's too accurate they'll find some way to make it woke.

[@dman8115]

@@Leo-pz5ge Yeah, it's ridiculous tbh. The Italians had many memorable campaigns in WW2, and any one of them could be fun. Like a What-If invasion of Malta, the ARMIR or CISIR in Russia, or even an Italian-Greek Campaign

[@Leo-pz5ge]

​@@dman8115 Those are good shouts. I would just like a game as well where we could play as some Partisans either Italians or Russians (if you haven't watched Soviet Storm I recommend it's one of the best documentaries around). If you were to play as Italians, we could play as Riccardo Fedel or Filippo Illuminato etc. And for the Russians a mission where you kill Wilhelm Kube where you play as female Partisan fighter Yelena Mazanik (Hey, at least they can't complain because women take part) 😆

[@bernardosantos6814]

@@dman8115 Search for Enlisted my dude, it's a f2p online game with some campaings. One of them is the Tunisian campaign which features italian soldiers and weapons.

[@ops5161]

Welcome to modern Call of Duty, where developers intentionally *only* feature Japaneese and Germans as enemies while completly ignoring history.

[@paulnolan8964]

No Italians Romanian how about the Chinese or India nope just the Brits and tanks as good guys to save the day because Canadians or Dutch or Belgians didn't land in normandy

[@paulnolan8964]

What about the polish pilots during battle of britian

[@paulnolan8964]

How about the free french ? Let's have a cod game about the sabatoge missions that was crucial to the D-Day landings nope the US and Britain did it all by themselves because cod developers can't understand history

[@VergilDarkslayer]

@@paulnolan8964 what about greco italian war

[@obi-wankenobi4190]

@@paulnolan8964 I’m half Dutch half English and it really pisses me off that the Dutch get ignored all the time especially because of my family history during the occupation

[@veyz11]

Italians:fought bravely, helped the Germans in tobruk, litterally declared war on Egypt, fought extremely B R A V E vanguard:germany did this.

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

They wouldn't even refer to them as Germans. They would say Nazis

[@veyz11]

@@Relentless1975 yeah in 1940 the Italian army was so strong sadly in the 41-45 it became more weak

[@rubenlopez3364]

They accounted for 75% of the Axis Expeditionary Force in North Africa

[@michelecastellotti9172]

Not just brave: badass. 1 british armor column defeated by italian cavalry charge Italians held the brits at bay for WEEKS or even MONTHS while the germans *RETREATED* from the front Need i say more? Italy got more shit done than people realize, yes they were underprepared, *AND YET THEY KICKED ASS*

[@bjrnjordan4374]

there amoured still sucked lol

[@lombardenjoyer1050]

I understand you. As an Italian I am disappointed that our soldiers do not appear in any theater of war in video games (in addition to North Africa also in Russia with ARMIR and in Italy perhaps with the soldiers of the social republic or the co-belligerent army). However, I have been following you for a while and I have to congratulate you for your very detailed considerations :)

[@troopergio]

I think the only depiction I've seen of Italian troops in video games was in Battlefield 1 with the Arditi in the Italian mountains fighting the Austro-Hungarians during the first world war

[@dman8115]

Yeah the ARMIR suffered way too much to be Ignored like they have been. I've been reading a book about them called: "Sacrifice on the Steppe, the Italian Alpine Corps at Stalingrad"

[@otakunthevegan4206]

You got to be in a few Missions in Cod 2: Big Red One (Console version of Cod 2). Anyone remember?

[@blueguy5714]

The finnish, polish, Italians, etc are not even mentions in most mainstream ww2 media

[@lombardenjoyer1050]

@@blueguy5714 Because it would be too innovative to do so. Dozens of nations fought hard during the war, but they are not mentioned. why, come on, do not deprive us of a damned Afro-British in the British paratroopers, of mg-42 in the Pacific theater or of painting the Germans with the masks of the imperial guards of star wars. But on the last point I am happy that we are not there, so the heavy racism towards us which is already towards the Germans with these crap that I cannot even define games does not increase.

[@graustreifbrombeerkralle1078]

16:25 They not just could've taken him as a prisoner for intel, shooting an unarmed, wounded soldier also is a war crime if I'm not mistaken. It's honestly amusing how all these WW2 games don't have the balls to make a campaign for the Germans, Italians, Japanese, Hungarians, Finnish or whatever because "muh bad side", but they have no problem with showing the protagonists committing war crimes without pointing out THAT IT IS a war crime. Black and white-washing. There are good guys. And there are bad guys. And the bad guys do not deserve mercy or humane treatment. Just like you mentioned later in the video, the Germans always have the faces covered in order to hide emotions (visible from mouth and eyes). You're not supposed to see them as actual human beings that have feelings and emotions. Just the enemy that you are supposed to kill without mercy. To be honest, it fucking pisses me off.

[@paulnolan8964]

Not every German soldier was a nazi they were just drafed into the army to fight a war their country started they had families too they didn't want to die but cod can't make that game because you won't kill Hans the family man so you have to kill the EVIL expressionless DIRTY NAZI that's why they have face coverings on I don't think their wearing them for COVID in WW2

[@paulnolan8964]

So now everybody thinks Germans are just heartless I've been to Germany in the 80s during the cold war and I have nothing but good things to say about their history cuisine and people you don't see any remnants of Nazism because how they felt about it

[@paulnolan8964]

War crimes happened on both sides but COD can't show that part because it can't dehumanize the victors because that would be bad for business because In this PC world that never happened but the Holocaust and the rape of Nanking absolutely did just to make the Germans and japanese absolutely horrendous but the US and allies can do it but it's part of war

[@imlivingunderyourbed7845]

@@paulnolan8964 Yeah, in the very beginning of the game, one of the protagonists even gloats about "marrying" German women as if it's a badass thing to do. If that's how the developers are gonna treat mass rape, then why don't they patronize the Japanese as their champions?

[@p_filippouz]

Today's society is full of damn snowflakes. And it pisses me off, war isnt, wasn't and won't be supposed to be kid friendly. If only we could get games like cod waw...

[@escidicasa5919]

Italians are Always forgotten when talking about WW2... Even if they helped Germany a lot during the African, Balkan and Russian campaign, they saved many German soldiers during the retreat after the defeat of El Alamein, without surrender and fighting untill the last breath and bullet (Folgore), but still the Activision think only Germans fought there and that Italians haven't done anything good in that period... I am italian even if my name and surname aren't

[@loyalfrog4864]

You should read the book: the war without hate. It was maked by the german general Erwin rommel who fight with italians during north africa.

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

The game has to ultimately appeal a broad audience. Italy hasn't been determinant to the extent of other countries during ww2 and it's not really considered a strong military country today so people may not really relate to fighting against Italians. It's marketing. Then, doing research on uniforms and weapons and hiring Italian actors for the voices for just one mission would've been too much work considering how many factions are represented already in the game. Sadly, in development compromises have to be done sometimes.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Hitler had zero interest in North Africa. Benito Mussolini was the one who invaded North Africa and his army ended up flopping and so Germany had to come to Italy's rescue in North Africa.

[@galjeroncic2651]

@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay that's not entirely true though. Hitler had an interest in controlling the Suez Canal as the middle east was another way for him to get to the Crimea oil fields. Controlling North Africa was also really important to prevent allied actions in the Mediterranean. Losing control of North Africa meant the Allies had easy access to the Pyreneean peninsula and ultimately allowed for an invasion of Sicily (which you know how it went)

[@loyalfrog4864]

@@robertoprestigiacomo253 thats why this game game sucks. It was rushed

[@connorjordanng8898]

I agree that Call of Duty Vanguard is INSULTING towards both the Allied Powers and the Axis Powers. I was disappointed that there were no Italian soldiers in both North African missions in this game. The Italians demonstrated bravery THROUGHOUT THE NORTH AFRICAN CAMPAIGN, so they deserve representation in WWII video games. The Germans were the major offenders of the war, but they still have their own perspective to be told! I am also disappointed with how arrogant and incompetent the British general was. The British had excellent relationships with their Commonwealth, so the British general should not have been placing the blame on the Australians. Do you believe that the game developers for Call of Duty Vanguard are crappy people? Let me know because I would like to hear your opinions. (These are just my honest thoughts after watching this video and I do not expect for anyone to agree with me).

[@MoldycheeseJr]

The people who made Cod Vanguard are all leftists. Hence why the game is woke and boring

[@Gunnut3497]

@@brokenhanz-o4m I agree

[@Gunnut3497]

@@MoldycheeseJr unfortunately

[@Gunnut3497]

I agree

[@MoldycheeseJr]

@@Gunnut3497 it’s sad to see

[@visayanmissnanny2.076]

I assume a designer just searched "British soldiers in Africa" and saw pictures of those from the Boer War and in WW1. By God, if my assumption is true, then their laziness is appalling

[@MaticTheProto]

That’s about what they also did when going to museums: „just show us the cool guns“

[@filmandfirearms]

They put an MG34 drum on the STG-44, so that it is exactly what they did

[@verynimbleninja3291]

Italians: *exist* Sledgehammer: I'm gonna pretend i didn't see that

[@SergeantLogie]

more like sledgew*nker

[@Deathmare235]

That goes for all the devs though maybe IW added them

[@__ggempire__wotblitz4689]

18:37 They can't even write Mittelmeer (mediterranean sea) correctly! The word "Mittle" doesn't even exist in German!

[@graustreifbrombeerkralle1078]

Yep, I also noticed that and commented about it, glad I'm not the only one who noticed it.

[@Kornilovite]

Also why does the map have the Sturmableitung logo on it

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

​@@Kornilovite Idk. This is Activision once again being super anachronistic

[@loafihxt5382]

Lol i thought when he said "famous Swedish sniper" Is a mistake but later i realize it was a joke

[@historylegends]

Glad you got it 😂😅 not everyone understands sarcasm

[@FontaineLovers]

finnnally someone get the joke

[@BadBomb555]

To be honest, I really would not want to see anything related to Finland in CoD or BF today.

[@teru797]

@@historylegends and to think, so many will play this game thinking this is how it really happeened

[@alexadamson9959]

Honestly I didn’t get it at first, but after reading the comments I was able to get a consensus. Good one.

[@guidoroderi7730]

as my dad said one time: "if you call this a HISTORICAL game, well, that sucks. if you called it a WW2 INSPIRED videogame, it can be even nice, but as historical it just sucks." and i'm italian, so double rage against tobruk P.S. i wish to be an historian one day. you're my hero for now!

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

"Double rage against tobruk" lol so rather than "Rage against the machines" it's "Rage against the Tobruk"

[@JohnSmith-xv2ob]

There is a limit to how much you can shrug off. Adding, say, one too many SKS rifles to the Reichstag assault? Sure, it's a cool gun, it was around at the time more or less and was used in very small numbers as far as I read. For the sake of gameplay, sure, put it at Seelow, it's not proper, but hey, it's in the game, might as well use it. But then there is disrespect of history. Literally changing important details, making big people with big roles into small people who did nothing, giving Japanese guys Becker shotguns and so on. There is enhancing gameplay, and there's spitting on history.

[@hyena_4740]

It was the SVT that was used in WAW

[@JohnSmith-xv2ob]

@@hyena_4740 I know, I'm a firearms enthusiast. What I was talking about was the SKS45, which reportedly was in Berlin in VERY small numbers, and my point in saying that was it's not such a huge deal to maybe exaggerate guns or move them back a year, but it's another thing entirely to give an SKS to a Japanese pilot.

[@vincentmartineau2006]

Dont forget, The Japanese obviously had STG's, and the germans had them in 1941

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@vincentmartineau2006 AND also had the Volksturmgewehre in full auto too.

[@Leo-pz5ge]

I thought Simo Häyhä was Bulgarian, thanks for telling me he's Swedish. I learned something new 😁

[@historylegends]

Hahahahaha 😂🤣🤣🤣 we learn something new every day ;)

[@michalsvoboda8020]

He was Finnish

[@Aristocrat1cs]

@donald trumpp you didn't even watch the vid

[@dawidedits121]

i thought he was Japanese 🧐

[@drunkenfinnpeltsi5968]

You guys are breaking my balls about White Death😂🇫🇮

[@xXxKAMIKAZExXx]

When you try to be so inclusive, yet fail to add Italy to the North Africa front.

[@ii-cipher-ii]

18:30 noticed the emblem of the 'Sturmabteilung' which was a paramilitary Nazi organization in german homeland and had absolutely nothing to do with the german campaign in North Africa

[@historyofitaly4364]

In the battle for Sicily for the next game, the only thing italian will be the island 👍🏻

[@SolarimperiumXXIVV]

🤣 true I just suspect everything being anti Italian especially Anglo made stuff. They completely undermine us. Duce said this in his 1940 speech. And sadly it’s still relevant they completely ignore our existence.

[@erikjimenez8671]

What makes it even worse is that the character that he’s based on is a two Victorian cross recipient for his actions in North Africa and him being a hell raiser when he was captured. he was famously noted that he refuse any promotion because he doesn’t wanna leave his man behind and promised each of his soldiers they are coming back home. And back in the 80s they finally recognize him for his service during the war by tricking him to go to a talk show and have all the guest members be the family members and the men that he served with.

[@mcwildstyle9106]

There's a lot of things about this mission that did stick out to me: 1. The Owen gun. I think the creators did that to establish that these are Australians. It would have been better to either give them a Thompson Sub-machine gun which most of the commonwealth troops were using at the time, or like you said take place in New Guinea in the South Pacific. 2. I could be wrong on this, but I think Hamms called Riggs and his fellow soldiers "rats" because Riggs and his fellow Aussies are part of the 9th Division, famously known as the Rats of Tobruk. But it still doesn't explain why he use it so rudely 3: Hamms as the CO. You are right, in the British Army (also Canada, India, New Zealand and in this case Australia), Majors are in command of a company while Captains are the second in command of said company. However Australian officers from the Division to platoon level, this include companies would be in command, not British. 4: The use of the Gammon Bombs. These are actually real grenades made to explode on impact. However, these things were first used in service in 1943. Two years after of this mission. 5: You can use a heavy machine gun to take down the Stuka, but I guess the player who made the video you are looking over wanted to challenge himself I guess. I mean I even try to take it down with a Panzefaust lol

[@Briselance]

A major, commanding a company? Is it not the captain's job to command a company, the major's (or lieutenant-colonel's) being to lead an entire battalion?

[@LIGHTNING278TH]

@@Briselance Different era's different armies different ranking systems. In the United States Army a Company Commander would be an O-3 Captain's slot with the XO being a 1st Lieutenants slot. Likewise a Battalion Commander would be a Lieutenant Colonel's slot and the Battalion XO being a Major O-4s slot. You could still have lower ranks in these positions either due to attrition, time in grade, or lagging paperwork. Other armies structured things differently.

[@mcwildstyle9106]

@@LIGHTNING278TH yeah pretty much

[@Kingsman88115]

4:45 From what I understand, the protagonist's group was referred to as the "Desert Rats"; that might explain why the British guy was calling them that. That being said, it doesn't explain why he was so hostile to them.

[@digitaal_boog]

Because vanguard is needlessly anti-British for some reason.

[@azzaro714]

@@digitaal_boog Wait fr?

[@ChandranPrema123]

@@digitaal_boog for Lucas's Backstory

[@BradLee208]

@@digitaal_boog that’s because it’s woke therefore inherently anti white male especially Anglo Saxon men

[@mcwildstyle9106]

@@BradLee208 doubt it

[@kiwigaming1605]

Thank you for sharing the information that Lucas Riggs was actually based off of a New Zealander. I find it quite disrespectful how poorly Call of Duty: Vanguard (2021) represented my country. New Zealand. Just to provide some constructive criticism, the indigenous people of New Zealand, the Maori, are pronounced Mol-Di. Besides that, thank you for acknowledging New Zealand's involvement in World War II (1939-1945), even if it's just a small mention.

[@sheraznisar4833]

Yeah the character of Lucas Riggs is a giant middle finger to all New Zealanders

[@kurtwk]

Uuugggh, it’s painful ! ….. this makes me appreciate the game “ Sniper Elite 3 “ even more…. Despite that game being fictional, of course, you get to fight Italians AND Germans with well researched weapons and uniforms !

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

But some guns in Sniper Elite 3 are anachronistic.

[@kurtwk]

@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404 of course, it’s definitely not perfect. It seems like every German soldier in The game is lugging around a G43 , which is something, historically that the Germans WISHED was the case… especially in North Africa and that’s just one example. It is cool to come across Italian paratroopers wearing the correct gear and camo not to mention Italian infantry. It’s a very forgotten theater in WW2 , ESPECIALLY in video games.

[@Thunder_thighs68]

@@kurtwk In Sniper Elite 4 they even added the RSI (italian fascist army) in the game because they were part of the Italian Social Republic :)

[@trouble1551s]

3:17 correct me if I’m wrong but surely almost all officers in the SOE would be British? The Australian soldiers in this mission are attached to the SOE, not the regular Australian army, so their commanding officer would likely be British?

[@moiniii390]

True he is talking a lot of shit in this video

[@breezyxkillerx]

Yes...but that officer should command tanks not infantry soldiers.

[@trouble1551s]

@@breezyxkillerx Not gonna disagree with you there, but my original point was about nationalities and not regiments

[@breezyxkillerx]

@@trouble1551syeah can't argue with that

[@drakron]

No, we looking at platoon level command and that would be a Australian. Not to say Special Operations Executive was secret organization, they employed most agents and not entire companies and SOE agents werent strictly British or even from the Anglesphere, in fact the Norwegian Independent Company 1 was under the leadership of Captain Martin Linge who was a Norwegian actor. If you have a squad entirely composed of Australian troops why on Earth the Squad leader would be British?

[@beatsoup9919]

With Tobruk and El Alamein, they had the perfect opportunity to represent Italy and subsequently all three of the Axis powers in this game.

[@KgDaniel65]

As a italian i was offended by the fact that germans were using italian weapons

[@internetexplorer7143]

Have Italians ever been featured in a WW2 game? I would love a game about the Italian campaign. Edit: Thx for the recommendations

[@dman8115]

@@internetexplorer7143 In Call of Duty 2 Big Red One they were actually shown rather faithfully in the Sicilian Part of the Campaign. Down to using authentic Carcano Rifles, Breda 30 LMGs and even fighting M14/15 Medium Tanks

[@dman8115]

@@internetexplorer7143 And if you play the game Theatre of War 2 Africa, there is Italian Units in the game helping the Germans, and an entire Expansion campaign focusing soley on the Italian 131st Armored Division Centauro

[@ryon5174]

@@internetexplorer7143 they’ve also been featured in this small strategy game call Codename Panzers Phase 2 - in fact, you mainly play as an Italian (and sometimes with the German Afrika Korps) in the Axis campaign To be honest tho the Italian characters in that game are pretty important, as they appear in the Axis, Allied, and if memory serves right, the, Partisan campaign

[@fazole]

Thanks for exposing how sloppily made this game is! Terrible. It reminds me of those WW2 B grade movies made in the 60's.

[@keithn_059]

For you who is pointing out how this guy said Simo was Swedish: it is a joke, this guy knows he is Finnish, he also said Patton was Canadian, and De Gaulle was Belgian.

[@rbkristof2330]

14:40 The tank on the Badge looks like a Mk VIII Cromwell, that was first used on the Normandie landings in 1944.

[@HawkTuahAgressivePhonkRemix98]

They got two things inaccurate on the seal of a beret lol

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

8:21 (edit: you got it right) its a Panzer IV* with the Kwk40 but without the sideskirts, you can tell its a panzer IV based on the shape and relative size of the gun mantelet (the part where the gun meets connects with the turret front), panzer IIIs had larger, rounder gun mantelets relative to the size of the turret front. the other thing that gives it away as a Panzer IV rather than a panzer III is the fact it has hull roof crew hatches and the space for them. the 3rd way of telling it is a panzer IV rather than a panzer III is that panzer IIIs had 2 headlights on the lower hull. panzer IV had headlights on the track guard (like the vehicle in the video) [the fact it has only 1 is ok, panzer 4s in musuems and historical photos often have a single headlight) ->the panzer IV did not get the Kwk40 (long 75mm) untill 1942. i disagree that its got a kwk39, the dark makes it harder to tell though. some ways that are less obvious here due to the dark, is; -that the panzer 4 had 8 road wheels vs the panzer III's 6. t -the panzer 4 had leafspring suspension while the panzer 3 had torsion bars -the panzer 4's hull widens out and overhangs the tracks alittle, while the panzer 3 has flat sides. *based on the muzzle break its a panzer IV Ausf. G specifically (rather than the more rounded muzzle break found on Panzer IV F2)

[@dayros2023]

There are so many theaters of WW2 that would be interesting. The east African campaign between the Italians and the allies, the axis invasion of yugoslavia and greece, the battles in Tunisia, hell even the invasion of France.

[@Havelthegravel]

As an Italian i’m really disappointed. CoD has always been great in portraying war, and recently they are starting to fail to do so. Much like battlefield how’s always been the more realistic games in the rivalry, they are starting to follow their agendas and not history. Vanguard, battlefield 5, battlefield 2042, games ruined by their agendas.

[@ViroRads]

Sometimes I feel like the only game who potrayed Italian soldiers right was Mafia II, and that wasn't even a WWII game! (for context look at the first chapter, US soldiers invade Sicily during Operation Husky, the protagonist takes part of that)

[@glamrockbonnie5983]

Battlefield 5 had some Italian skins for the Germans like the Alpini skin

[@Havelthegravel]

@@glamrockbonnie5983 you said it yourself, Alpini skin for German soldiers.

[@speakeasy_cali]

Also notice that in El-Alamein, when you load a 5-bullet magazine into a Lee-Enfield, but if you look carefully at the magazine, you’re loading nothing into the gun, there’s no bullets to be seen

[@ImWallace799]

Gotta love it when our man says "Oh my god" and "You can't be serious"

[@KatarMilak]

I think the reason we see Panzer IVs here is the same reason we see so much other anachronistic stuff in Vanguard. Much of it is recycled assets from Call of Duty WW2, which takes place from D-Day onwards.

[@Doughboy842]

It just shows laziness on the developers behalf.

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

@@Doughboy842 Just because it's reused doesn't automatically mean they're lazy

[@huntclanhunt9697]

I think I read somewhere that the "Desert Rats" nickname ended up being taken up and used by the Ausies themselves, as well as the brits. But it would have been a friendly nocking banter thing.

[@filipstudeny]

It was actually taken by pretty much everyone, the Czechoslovakians, Polish, Australians, the British and pretty much anyone who was on the defending side took that nickname with pride. Which is actually hilarious

[@crumpetcommandos779]

as far as im aware the name desert rats was given to the british 7th armoured division with the rats of tobruk being the australian led allied garrison at tobruk

[@condelocatelli7172]

My grandfather was in North Africa as a italian artillery battalion. It's sad to see that in every game they are forgotten. No more than the soldiers of the Brazilian Expeditionary force that fought in Italy

[@comanderlego]

they apparently forgot that the germans would have used war lighting on their vehicles instead of just the full on fog lights

[@marksheen4873]

It’s been really hard to get any sense of how things are progressing. Not surprised it was you that could finally provide some clarity. Great vid

[@DuduDruidDotCom]

What do you mean that there were ITALIANS in Tobruk? I thought that WW2 was all about USA D-Daying Germany, while Russia rushing into Berlin... Huh... Odd. /s

[@paulnolan8964]

And Japan relaxing in the Philippines

[@mrgas8499]

China invading japan and retrofitting their super bb's to cruise ships,forgot that part

[@timkerer9682]

My great grandfather's brother (South tyrol) fought for Italy IN TOBRUK, I am very disappointed in this game

[@tiramisu1412]

0:18 Simo Häyhä was a finnish sniper, not swedish, during the Winter War, the most efective sniper of all times

[@dman8115]

That's the joke I'm assuming dude. Since ya know....he was talking about changing Nationalities

[@historylegends]

Hehehe they didn’t watch the full vid 😏

[@dman8115]

@@historylegends Wonderful Video as always! As an enthusiast of Italian WW2 History, it made me so sad to see that they didn't show any Italians at Tobruk of all places. It would have been fun playing as the Aussies defending the outer redoubts against the Ariete Armored Division and 8th Bersaglieri Regiment

[@tiramisu1412]

@@dman8115 in this case, sorry, my bad...

[@dman8115]

@@tiramisu1412 Lol no worries man. It seems a lot of folks didn't get the Joke, so you're not alone.

[@filmandfirearms]

The entire reason Tobruk was such a dicy situation for the ANZACS was that they got pushed up against the coastline. By setting it in the desert, you completely destroy that critical aspect of the battle, that they literally had no option to retreat, and had to fight to the death in order to survive

[@Aragorn195]

When you said "famous Swedish sniper" I had a physical reaction to that. That's how wrong that sounded, either that or it's because I'm Norwegian

[@reichtangle7734]

It was a joke due to all the race changing in the game.

[@Aragorn195]

@@reichtangle7734 I know

[@imlivingunderyourbed7845]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Vanguard developers think that Hitler is German or that Stalin is Russian.

[@Aragorn195]

@@imlivingunderyourbed7845 I wouldn't be surprised most people didn't know that Hitler was in fact Austrian and Stalin Georgian

[@australianmasterchief]

ive never heard my country been mentioned so much in one video, thank you 🌏

[@arnopereira3396]

As a french all i can say to italians is ..welcome to the club

[@mfinland2767]

5:34 no one noticed that kitten on the soldier shoulder?

[@burningice7371]

18:38 bruh they even missspelled the German word for the Mediterranean Sea at the top of the map xD

[@hans4239]

To be honest, don't be surprised. This game was rushed.

[@subzerokos]

The Swedish Simo Hayha made me laugh so hard…

[@silent_tofu]

16:59 "On this one, Foxhauls in the middle of a FLAT desert landscape. FLAT." 17:06 "On this one you can see, an Australian trench, in a rocky, desert, FLAT landscape." Deleted scene: "And lastly, we have an anime girl with FLAT desert. FLAT landscape, you can see that there's almost no cliff."

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

A cultured man, I see. Watch your back.

[@cape206]

Poor little Bersaglieri del Regno d'Italia...they always get forgotten.

[@Bruh-po5qw]

Think how cool it would be to have an Italian campaign talking about two brothers who fought together until 8 september 1943(armistice) , then one choose to join the partisans and the enlist in the RSI army.

[@limperatoreviano7408]

As a Italian this video Is gold and i explain well our presence in North Africa

[@markkumyllykoski5444]

For the longest time I wanted a war game set in Winter War or Continuation War or even the Lapland War, but seeing how woke these game companies have become, I'm glad we don't get one.

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

Better avoid COD and BF

[@Hawker_Tempest]

16:15 I find it funny how in the games subtitles it uses kraut which isn't Australian or British but is American, they should've used Fritz, Hun, Boche or Jerry. 18:46 as well.

[@flameraker6824]

Hey, i spotted a mistake on your part! The british major (while still out of place) isn't in command of an S.O.E force but normal aussie soldiers. This is the story of the aussie soldier before being recruited by the S.O.E.

[@ViroRads]

Sometimes I feel like the only game that did Italian soldiers right was Mafia II, and that even wasn't a WWII game

[@pinomaki1050]

0:15 oh no.....you just didn't say that.... Okay I believe that, you as an historian know that Simo Häyhä wasn't swedish but by saying that and putting the flag of Sweden on top of him, I hope, only few finnish people watch this video, because you have just commited an act equal to war crime in their books😂😂

[@patteyh]

Pretty sure it was a joke :)

[@cucadefrijoles735]

“Honestly, not bad, it’s starting well.” Famous last words

[@huntclanhunt9697]

I like these videos... But I can't help but feel Vanguard doesn't deserve this attention. It deserves to be forgotten and ignored.

[@IloveBaguette]

Great vid! I was just binging your previous videos and I noticed your Costco card behind your phone on one of those videos. Now, I could never unnotice it. 6:38

[@HWjabber]

18:34 On the top of the map you can see a SA symbol. The SA were a group of thugs that were the paramilitary wing of the nazi party before they took power. The entire organisation was disbanded in 1934 because it was no longer needed by Hitler. So it makes no sense to see it on a Wehrmacht map in 1941. Just another example of historical mistakes in this dumpster fire of a game.

[@winddings351]

I think they reused the SA Symbol for their fictional wunderwaffe projects within the game. But yeah, petty dumb for them to reuse the SA symbol instead of using the Black Sun symbol

[@Bird6755]

Thanks so much for these videos, you never stretch the video longer than it needs to be. Your videos allow me to learn new things and enjoy them at the same time. I’ve been watching you for about a month now and you’ve improved my history so much. Thanks, from another Canadian.

[@masonjames1194]

As a ww2 nerd my self I love your feedback on the game I was the same when I played it Love the sarcasm

[@archer8849]

18:43 you forgot to notice that the map had an SA (Sturmabteilung) badge on it. there were no SA in North Africa

[@didyoufootball9647]

Here's a list of the Cod vanguard writters stephen Rhodes Sam Maggs Tochi Onyebuchi Brent V. Friedman

[@graustreifbrombeerkralle1078]

Sam Maggs is like a guarantee for a game to be shit.

[@didyoufootball9647]

COD be like: You dont know anything about history or geography YOURE HIRED!!!

[@didyoufootball9647]

Looks like the only people that care about history is us

[@mysteryman4915]

The only games I can think of that protrayed Italians in WWII in North Africa are Sniper Elite III and Medal of Honor Airborne.

[@whiteclouds26]

Lies call of duty big red bone

[@charlesboromeo4818]

Could you review Battlefield One on the Gallipoli Campaign

[@williamsnekspeare3090]

0:12 15:51 just a small correction, Simo Häyhä, or the white death, was actually a Finnish sniper, it shouldn't have bugged me as much as it did, but there it is.

[@GhostHenchman75]

It was sarcasm

[@davidgreen4807]

Panzer IV Ausf. G version entered into service 1942 it was improvement over the Ausf. F2 is still not sufficient to provide reliable defence. It is best to shoot first, as the KwK40 L/43 can deal with the majority of enemies it will face. Heavy tanks like the KV 1 or 2

[@tanker102]

Still none of the 2 variants you said existed on 1941 on the Afrika campaign

[@phuckayumang2381]

Medal of Honor Airborne is the only game I've played where I've even seen an Italian in WWII. Haven't played any of the new Cawadoody games though.

[@EdmundLoh]

15:53 to get the full context on the “Swedish” sniper. It’s got to do with the wokeness and misrepresentation of nationality. lol

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

To sum it up, the first four operators in Vanguard are loosely based off real heroes, albeit exaggerated.

[@razgriz9146]

19:24 thanks to your sage advice, I've been able to scare away any and all commandos who keep trying to infiltrate my backyard out in the deserts of West Texas. Thanks, History Legends!

[@Ext3rmin4tor]

You are right about the vehicles, but that's something that always happens in ww2 CoD games: they copy/paste the same vehicles across all eras. For instance in CoD2 they use (although correctly) the Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. C as the main battle tank used by the Germans in early war, although it would make more sense to see Pz.Kpfw. III. In other CoD ww2 games everything gets better because they are set late in the war, so you see Panzer IV G and H correctly placed in their timeline, also Panthers, and Königstigers. But yes, Vanguard was possibly the worst CoD I've ever played. Moreover, it doesn't even take a lot of effort to turn that G model into an D or E model: even if it wouldn't be absolutely perfect, they could just swap the cannon model for the short one and that's the only extra work they needed to do (yes, the hull is also different, but still better than placing a G model in 1941). Also Volkssturmgewehr in Africa in 1941 :(.

[@bademusoctavianjuvenal2702]

16:43 "I feel they used the same map for El Alamein, put a night filter, amd called it a day." lmaaooooooo

[@obiwankenobi579]

Loved your German :D - and I absolutely agree on your analysis. This is why I do not play CoD at all (I am more in the direction of Hell Let Loose), it is just irritating to see the wrong weapons, tanks and uniforms...

[@ThePatriarchXCI91]

"The famous Swedish Sniper" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ConkerVonZap]

It's not realistic, where is the Ottoman empire charging the Canadians with camels and sabers?

[@paulnolan8964]

They didn't do that until Korea

[@paulnolan8964]

But the Canadians have Javelilns to take out the camels

[@TooDeepForSleep]

there was one Italian gun in the mission at 13:04 but they call it the Itra Burst

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@PureRacing04]

These days cod would be so great if they would work with guys like historylegends. So we wouldn't have 2 f* up WW2 cod like Vanguard and WW2. Or Cold War which had a lot potential settings and story wise.. but eastern Volkspolizei with MP5's are fine too i guess.

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

That's like expecting a honest politician, it'll never happen.

[@nicholassalchert8583]

I completely overlooked the fact that he called Simo a Swedish sniper lol, loved the sarcasm

[@kingkhieu]

LETS GOO🔥🔥🥷

[@xXxKAMIKAZExXx]

I'm glad you brought up the Owen gun not making sense for the time or setting. It's also been mirrored, having the sights on the wrong side.

[@farhanrizkiahnafa7404]

Perhaps the devs are unfamiliar with that gun.

[@BlackWallMute]

To add Vanguard does even say "alternative history" :D just pointing it out but allot of nitpicky problems can be found. FINISH SNIPER NOT SWEDISH. your title as "historian" went out the window, unless you where being sarcastic but the most rudimentary google search would point that out. You seem to get quiet allot of things wrong for a "historian" British treated allot of their "allied" troops like shit but its a case by case basis. The austrailians at the time where seen like lesser people since they are the offspring's and what not from the convicts that got sent there. Are you really a "historian" or just some arm chair hobbyist making KZbin videos? "middle of the dessert" still suffices even for a port town since its quiet literally situated in bumfuck nowhere by Western standards. And just beacuse its a port town does not mean it takes place at the beach. Nit picking for the sake of content but i nitpick your commentary for the sake of a comment :) Bur yes high ranking officer for four "rats" its a bit odd and yes they made him to be hated. Something we agree on. As for the uniform here i thought it was just like a ragtag band like they are not recognized as a part of the standing army and could dress in whatever. I guess its to further the point that Australians where treated poorly thus handed outdated equipment.

[@dennisnastasi2000]

Oh also, General George S. Patton 15:59 was an American general, not Canadian.

[@Army48484]

It’s a joke he’s saying it because of how the game portrays famous soilders

[@panzerkampfwagenvitigeraus2405]

The tank is a Panzer IV F2, however, that is still anachronistic because production of this model only began in 1942 due to there being tough armor that needed a higher penetrating gun. great video man keep it up!!

[@alexf5626]

Man, i’m italian and i totally agree with your comments on this game, I think it could have a lot of potential; even though I am sixteen, I think I know the story better than the people who programmed the game. Anyway, i think your work is amazing, i hope you will read this message, because I will support you as long as I can ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@Briselance]

03:24 Three VC recipients who are still fighting-fit... damn. :-O

[@kinghoodofmousekind2906]

My father knew a guy who survived that battle...there was even a legend that he swam back to Italy after the battle, and he got the nickname of "Tobruk" due to that: it's one of those stories which walks that weird line between myth and self-mockery. It feels weird that these games of lately: 1) always show the Germans as devils incarnate; 2) never show our armies.

[@bryanbird1266]

Oh, the Monty Python Officer is a Sergeant Major, which makes this scene bloody hilarious.

[@FILidk]

0:15 The Swedish?? Isn't he finish (the white death)

[@drbomdaydayboms4890]

The sniper you talk about in the start they wanna make a mission about is not sweden but finish and faugt in the winter war vs Russia...

[@AdrianMartinez-gq7ne]

I'm honestly sick of the "snobby, incompetent British officer" trope, I say that as an American.

[@militanttriangle2326]

Agree.... The shit Brit officers would have been mainly GONE by this point in the war. Now its just boring recycled TV and movie trash from someone that has never done a thing in their life other than consume TV, movies, and Games.

[@jacksonprince9036]

2:10 to bypass the sponsor

[@julietsiguenzasanjose1628]

Bruh Simon hayha is a legendary Finnish sniper

[@julien5614]

German soldier use SVT-41 ( Soviet weapon ) and Japan soldier use STG-44 ( German weapon ) that makes me always smile when playing this COD 😅

[@GrasshopperKelly]

19:20 German infantry unit tactics literal revolved around going from a travelling single column, to a spread out line as fast as possible... Thanks Vanguard(!)