Hisuian Pokemon in Gen 9 Competitive - How Good Will They Be?

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Jimothy Cool

Jimothy Cool

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@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
Sorry guys I missed Overqwil. Just took a look now, Interesting but strange typing for a Swift Swimmer. Not sure if you'd run this on Rain or as just an Offensive Hazard Setter with Intimidate. Don't think this will end up OU but I could be wrong Also woops Rock type does not resist itself I am dumb. And I actually missed a lot of stuff!!! A lot of new info to take in Forgive me.
@xdidi414
@xdidi414 Жыл бұрын
No worries, Jim! Good stuff
@BushSage
@BushSage Жыл бұрын
if only rock blocked rock...
@matthewhubbard4562
@matthewhubbard4562 Жыл бұрын
thoughts on Samurott-Hisui using Ceaseless Edge?
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
@@matthewhubbard4562 Samurott is gonna be insane, that's one of the strongest moves I've ever seen
@zoa1-99.......
@zoa1-99....... Жыл бұрын
This is why you should actually PLAY THE GAMES. Legends Arceus is a good game, and it'd help us believe you more if you actually played it and KNEW WHAT you were talking about better.
@thegoldengoat2560
@thegoldengoat2560 Жыл бұрын
Samurott gets a move that sets up spikes and is boosted by sharpness
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
WTF
@rottyonamac
@rottyonamac Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was literally screaming when he missed that lol.
@rukayatuawudu9995
@rukayatuawudu9995 Жыл бұрын
For some reason the move is part of the "usually useless moves" group.
@Metaknighttheloneswordsman
@Metaknighttheloneswordsman Жыл бұрын
Bro you can run Aqua Cutter Ceaseless Edge Psycho Cut Sacred Sword Samurott is finally good!
@REDscar9000
@REDscar9000 Жыл бұрын
@@Metaknighttheloneswordsman that sounds horrifying to battle against 😂
@abarette_
@abarette_ Жыл бұрын
Stone Edge with more accuracy and sets up Stealth Rocks. Bravo Game Freak.
@Rarest26
@Rarest26 Жыл бұрын
Sheer force doesn’t remove high crit ratios, but it would remove the speed boost. I feel like tinted lens is gonna be better anyways.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
Specs Hurricane with Sheer Force in Rain sounds kinda epic
@Rarest26
@Rarest26 Жыл бұрын
@@jimothycool It does, good for it for having more than one good set.
@harshjaria2136
@harshjaria2136 Жыл бұрын
It would be good poke to surprise ur opponent with its variety in set i don't think it would be a ou staple but could see some play in uu.
@ALEXXXXX3
@ALEXXXXX3 Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Pokémon = Power creep
@harshjaria2136
@harshjaria2136 Жыл бұрын
@@ALEXXXXX3 we all know new gens or some game which introduce new mons or form to old. Mon are filled with power creep
@splitsee2526
@splitsee2526 Жыл бұрын
Ursaluna is gonna be like the Goldfish, hes gonna come from the shadows after the most op crap is banned and then it destroys everything
@zoa1-99.......
@zoa1-99....... Жыл бұрын
Only applies to Somgon rules not the REAL OFFICIAL VGC rules.
@arctovishfan100
@arctovishfan100 Жыл бұрын
@@zoa1-99....... right because nobody plays competitive singles okay
@zoa1-99.......
@zoa1-99....... Жыл бұрын
@@arctovishfan100 doesn't make me incorrect.
@patrickburton1401
@patrickburton1401 Жыл бұрын
Ursaluna is gonna be the best normal type since e-killer arceus
@xed8530
@xed8530 Жыл бұрын
@@zoa1-99....... You know hating on smogon is cringe right lmao
@Anzyll
@Anzyll Жыл бұрын
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Goodra-Hisui's Sap Sipper gives you immunity to Spore/Sleep Powder as well, which is pretty big for VGC.
@dayandere2669
@dayandere2669 Жыл бұрын
it gives immunity to ALL grass moves, so yes
@Browlet540
@Browlet540 Жыл бұрын
And it's signature move shelter is also instant double defence isn't it?
@mystery5906
@mystery5906 Жыл бұрын
i present to you the strongest pokemon of all time: ]:) (Goodra-Hisui) @ Leftovers Ability: Sap Sipper Level: 50 Tera Type: Ghost EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD Calm Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Shelter - Body Press - Flash Cannon - Life Dew 222 spdef stat, and its defense is even higher after 1 shelter. shame it doesnt get slack off or anything, but its still absurdly bulky.
@hozkahilgarri3936
@hozkahilgarri3936 Жыл бұрын
@@mystery5906 that's a nice set! Both Goodra forms are among my favorite Pokémon of all time! Ever since Goodra was introduced in gen6, one thing that slightly irritates me is that it cannot learn Giga Drain, despite Absorb being one of its earliest level up moves. Before life dew, the most reliable recovery was rest/hydration on rain teams, which was alright, but I personally just think if a mon gets Absorb at like lvl1 as one of the fundamental moves of the base form, then Giga Drain SHOULD be in the movepool. I mean, it gets Power Whip for Petes sake, so it could use a strong Grass special option.
@longingsoul1
@longingsoul1 Жыл бұрын
@@mystery5906 Is there a reason to run Shelter over Acid Armor? Acid Armor seems to have double the pp and same effect, or is there an adverse affect I'm not aware of?
@zennistrad
@zennistrad Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Zoroark is notable to me because it's pretty much a hard counter to most Annihilape builds. It's got full immunity to both of its STABs, plus special attack high enough to break through Annihilape's bulk, plus Illusion to try to bait out Drain Punch and Rage Fist while it sets up.
@doomknightsepulchure
@doomknightsepulchure Жыл бұрын
Its so frail though. I could see it on stall teams that were ordinarily just food for annihilape. Being able to shut down the optimal ape set is really good if that's the difference between your team structure losing to ape vs not losing, but keep in mind that ape wasn't an overcentralizing force. Given that, I don't see anything but stall teams using zoro-h since its just too mediocre to spend an entire team slot countering one mon that isn't even mandatory on every team
@Samuel-qc7kg
@Samuel-qc7kg Жыл бұрын
​@@doomknightsepulchure It is not good just against the ape tho.
@doomknightsepulchure
@doomknightsepulchure Жыл бұрын
@@Samuel-qc7kg Yeah my comment turned out to be pretty wrong lmao
@_Podzilla_
@_Podzilla_ Жыл бұрын
Hisuan Lilligant has Chlorophyll AND Solar Blade. Run that with a Protosynthesis team and you're set
@crochunter6459
@crochunter6459 Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty strong with Victory Dance too
@sham_noway
@sham_noway Жыл бұрын
poison touch + dire claw is almost a guaranteed status effect every time its nuts
@Metaknighttheloneswordsman
@Metaknighttheloneswordsman Жыл бұрын
And unburden with terrain seeds so you can run Adamant and some hp investment
@Mordecrox
@Mordecrox Жыл бұрын
I read that as "guaranteed status effect every time it nuts"
@patrickburton1401
@patrickburton1401 Жыл бұрын
H-arcanine still takes 25% from stealth rock. Rock doesn’t resist rock. Edit: I see the pinned comment now lmao
@666blaziken
@666blaziken Жыл бұрын
Ursaluna also gets facade and flame orb as well... Absolutely amazing
@JuscelinoVibecheck
@JuscelinoVibecheck Жыл бұрын
Sheer Force considers status increases as additional effects, but having a high crit rate not, so Esper Wing won't increase your speed but still have a high crit ratio while boosted by sheer force. Wish it was it opposite, but still cool nonetheless
@speculyn5060
@speculyn5060 Жыл бұрын
I think that Hisuian Decidueye would be great as an assault vest user. It has some decent special bulk and will mainly be used to counter special mons like Gholdengo, so I would assume that it’d be best to enhance its bulk. Plus, we already saw what a speed-raising move can do with Quaquaval, and it doesn’t seem too crazy on it with base 85 speed, let alone another mon with base 65. Only downside is its quadruple weakness to flying mons, so it may suffer against mons such as Pelipper or Corviknight. Edit: As a Gholdengo counter, this thing it great. 252+ Atk Decidueye-Hisui Triple Arrows vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gholdengo: 306-360 (80.9 - 95.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. This isn't the only good move it has though. Apparently, Hisuian Decidueye has access to sucker punch. It could even just run close combat for an OHKO, albeit nullifying its vest boost. I honestly think this mon might have a really good niche as a lategame punishing sweeper and special ward.
@Browlet540
@Browlet540 Жыл бұрын
Another thing about decidueye is that with terrestalization, it can not only change its otherwise poor defensive type into something better like ghost, steel; it is a trick room crit machine with scope lens, triple arrows, leaf blade, shadow claw, psycho cut maybe. I really look forward to seeing decidueye hisui to shine in the competitive ground coz it's my favourite pokemon, but was lack luster before.
@InvestitudinalKnowledge
@InvestitudinalKnowledge Жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be ass, along with most of these. Completely dog buns speed tiers
@Browlet540
@Browlet540 Жыл бұрын
@@InvestitudinalKnowledge trick room
@randomdudeonyoutube3504
@randomdudeonyoutube3504 Жыл бұрын
@@Browlet540 trick room in singles isn’t really that great
@LtDarkWing
@LtDarkWing Жыл бұрын
Ice/Rock is Amaura and Aurorus. So not unique to H-Avalugg.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
True forgot about those fellas!
@LtDarkWing
@LtDarkWing Жыл бұрын
Sheer Force doesn’t work on high crit rate moves. So it’ll remove the speed boost.
@thanib7796
@thanib7796 Жыл бұрын
@@jimothycool Aurorus erasure!
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Жыл бұрын
Really want to play with Hissui Zoroark. I like the Ghost/Normal combination and looks really cool
@longingsoul1
@longingsoul1 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm sad that it did get nerfed to be the same as normal Zoroark, and also still having illusion as an ability, that said Illusion is still a very fun ability and with three immunities I can play around with that.
@umbriel706
@umbriel706 Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s used Zoroark a lot, best to keep our expectations low. It has a lot of issues regarding its stat distribution and its wack ability but I guess it could check Annihilape
@longingsoul1
@longingsoul1 Жыл бұрын
@@umbriel706 I think it could generally be useful with it's ability this time around because it's ability would let you have more effective mind games with immunities to ghost, fighting, and normal. I plan to use it on an Aurora veil team once Alola Ninetales returns.
@umbriel706
@umbriel706 Жыл бұрын
@@longingsoul1 I personally believe the ability itself doesn’t really work against experienced players and needs either a buff or a tweak. They could try and chip anyways with a would be neutral hit and OHKO the poor thing with its paper thin defenses. That and base 105 speed with a glass cannon is kinda iffy, it’s not bad but you’re still going to be outsped by a lot of the metagame and lose an otherwise valued sweeper. Personally I believe it’ll probably have the niche of checking Annihilape but I doubt it’ll be full on OU material with those issues, it can’t live a neutral hit to save its life and I wouldn’t really see a reason (so far) to use it over Gholdengo and Pult thus far
@longingsoul1
@longingsoul1 Жыл бұрын
@@umbriel706 Certainly fair, I personally use things based on design and what I like, so I'll find a way to have fun with it.
@shrimppimp4509
@shrimppimp4509 Жыл бұрын
Sligoo with an eviolite would be interesting since it has higher defenses than regular sligoo, also rest is decent for walls, atleast on dodonzo and annihilape Also azelf gets a new move 70 base power move that also 100% raises its special attack, so that's probably big, also adding loaded dice to victory dance liligant would probably be cool, if we give it bullet seed, gets a free 100 base power move or 125 if lucky, but idk if wide lens is better on hustle. Qwilfish is better as eviolite suicide lead, but during showdown, I'll give it, intimidate, barb barrage stockpile rest and liquidation. I would run typhlosion in a status spreading team like will o wisp dragapault or dire claw sneasler, or thunderwave chansey eruption is a must have I would probably try to thunderwave faster pokemon
@lucarilla9746
@lucarilla9746 Жыл бұрын
Diggersby exists with the ground/normal type, i'm also a bit weirded outt by the fact that You didn't mention Facade in Ursaluna's movepool 140 base attack stat, with x1.5 Guts boosted 1.5 times by STAB, and with x2 Power thanks to Facade effect
@harrydsgn
@harrydsgn Жыл бұрын
Giving Typhlo-H Frisk was such a fumble… can’t even keep Flash Fire, which is a big asset on Typhlo-J
@recapdrake
@recapdrake Жыл бұрын
At least it gets infernal parade which is pretty good
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 Жыл бұрын
They could've at least gave it infiltrator or something
@InfraredGod
@InfraredGod Жыл бұрын
@@recapdrake IP is fucking horrible. A glorified hex with less base power and only a 30% burn chance. Typhlo H is an RU mon for sure.
@recapdrake
@recapdrake Жыл бұрын
@@InfraredGod you realize hex sees play right now right?
@InfraredGod
@InfraredGod Жыл бұрын
@@recapdrake It does, but Typhlo isn’t bulky enough to get a will-o-wisp off and survive, let alone spam IP until he finally gets a burn. IP is the worst out of the signature Hisui starter moves by leaps and bounds.
@wasabilover1293
@wasabilover1293 Жыл бұрын
Hisuian-liligant will be great with solar blade cuz you'll only really use it during sunlight anyway
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
She’d also be good in a physical dancer team with Quacquavel, Oricorio, flamigo and the like.
@dynamic8192
@dynamic8192 Жыл бұрын
Sneasler is more than broken due to unburden and the move dire claw which has FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE to cause any of the three status conditions.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
It looks bonkers
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Жыл бұрын
So... Tri Attack on black tar heroin?
@lstheprodigy7761
@lstheprodigy7761 Жыл бұрын
Missed out on the ceaseless edge on samurott, dark mive boosted by sharpness that also sets up spike, and the fact that ursaluna gets a nice guts boosted facade which will hit like a truck
@supremeoverlordfallen5
@supremeoverlordfallen5 Жыл бұрын
Ursaluna kinda sounds like Kingambit, just with more weakness but stronger moves and guts.
@bevindenson
@bevindenson Жыл бұрын
Basculegion is the evolution of basculin from gen 5
@cwm464
@cwm464 Жыл бұрын
scrappy fight that outspeeds gholdengo already exists:flamigo
@VirtuesOfSin
@VirtuesOfSin Жыл бұрын
I wish Infernal Parade was a Fire Type attack honestly. Running that and Hex would of been cool on the same Pokemon, basically running 120 power moves if you can status them, with one of them having a 30% chance to inflict the status. Will-o-wisp//Infernal Parade//Hex//[Filler Move]
@danielsmith5032
@danielsmith5032 Жыл бұрын
16:00 You somehow twice missed Lilligant gets Ice Spinner too! Coverage of flying types
@falcon9213
@falcon9213 Жыл бұрын
Aurorus is Ice/Rock, Diggersby is also Ground/Normal
@LukeA471
@LukeA471 Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Pokemon had some crazy shit
@Ramperdos
@Ramperdos Жыл бұрын
It's Kleavin' time and then you Stealth Rock all over your enemies.
@p.k.mmaster7636
@p.k.mmaster7636 Жыл бұрын
Ceaseless edge signature attacking move of h-samurott also produce spike on the field
@p.k.mmaster7636
@p.k.mmaster7636 Жыл бұрын
This move is increased by sharpness top
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Жыл бұрын
Ice rock was on another pokemon, Aurorus. It also made the mistake of being a defensive ice/rock type
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu Жыл бұрын
iirc Headlong Rush was originally Ursaluna's signature move
@djdrizzy9139
@djdrizzy9139 Жыл бұрын
And Torterra's. Both had it in Arceus.
@indiradevi6217
@indiradevi6217 Жыл бұрын
The Fact you forgot about hisui qwilfish evo overqwil is so sad
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
LOL I'm sorry!!
@Tyrant-eater
@Tyrant-eater Жыл бұрын
Actually high crit ratio moves are not affected by sheer force
@JBBRDNKS
@JBBRDNKS Жыл бұрын
H-decidueye will save us from the ghosts
@fishfella8955
@fishfella8955 Жыл бұрын
Qwilfish hisuian with eviolite may be a good lead with intimidate and hazards, it’s defense is really high with eviolite and it’s special defense is pretty good aswell.
@TheUnique69able
@TheUnique69able Жыл бұрын
Covert cloak will be as important as heavy duty boots when the hisuian pokemon are available
@supe_nova
@supe_nova Жыл бұрын
Scarf sharpness ceaseless edge samourott with gholdengo countering defog go brrrr
@user-rn7wf7ry4s
@user-rn7wf7ry4s Жыл бұрын
dude missed out on ceaseless edge. that move's arguably even better than stone axe cuz spikes stack.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
I already thought H Samurott looked good. That things gonna be busted
@QuestionableLogic_
@QuestionableLogic_ Жыл бұрын
Ice Rock in with abysmal Sp.Def in a metagame with Make It Rain? If Avalugg sees play I'll genuinely be shocked
@tecul1
@tecul1 Жыл бұрын
regular avalugg is still used and has the same problems
@QuestionableLogic_
@QuestionableLogic_ Жыл бұрын
@@tecul1 For real?
@tecul1
@tecul1 Жыл бұрын
not ou by usage or anything, but it's very usable, it's not very outclassed either just its place as a physical wall with spin isn't very needed right now
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 Жыл бұрын
But when has a physical wall with Rapid Spin been needed outside of early Gen 8 OU? Also, part of Avalugg’s strange effectiveness is that it had Recover. It can’t do that anymore.
@tecul1
@tecul1 Жыл бұрын
i mostly agree with you, corviknight has serviceable enough bulk, better typing, and defog is good enough most of the time, but there could be a time a spin pivot could be good again, like exca in oras, just not in recent memory
@chess_fella
@chess_fella Жыл бұрын
I wonder how strong Hisuian Jimothy Cool will be? Stronger than the Australian form?
@dannyblake9926
@dannyblake9926 Жыл бұрын
can we talk about the fact that Basculegion get last respects the same move that got the hound banned I don't remember the format srry
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
I think that they'll end up banning the Move rather than the Pokemon. Probably what they should've done in the first place but whatever Lol.
@jerivingarcia4800
@jerivingarcia4800 Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Electrode, Aftermath or Soundproof... But with T wave, Leech seed, chloroplast, Foul Play or Electro ball then Shell Bell
@coledavidson5630
@coledavidson5630 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I love your channel name
@dareales103
@dareales103 Жыл бұрын
Love the Aquatic Ambiance in the background.
@ShadowTasos
@ShadowTasos Жыл бұрын
Jim my man I absolutely love your content but this one was a lil rushed lol. On top of straight up missing Overqwil, you missed the fact that nearly every Hisuian mon has a new signature move that they're kinda designed around and you saw like half of em lol Goodra - Shelter: Protect & +1 Def for you Samurott - Ceaseless Edge: Dark, Physical, 65 BP, boosted by Sharpness, 90% accuracy, creates spikes Typhlosion - Infernal Parade: Ghost, Special, 60 BP, 30% chance to burn & double dmg vs statused targets Zoroark - Bitter Malice: Ghost, Special, 75 BP, -1 Atk for target Wyrdeer - Psyshield Bash: Psychic, Physical, 70 BP, 90% accuracy, +1 Def for you You also missed some smaller things: Arcanine gains a semi-exclusive move, Raging Fury, which is Fire type Outrage basically, tho the Rock Head set will always run Flare Blitz instead. Also, the 3 pixies (Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit) get a new move, Mystical Power - Psychic, Special, 70 BP 90% accuracy, +1 SpA for you. That might put them on the OU radar! I'd do a double take on this one if I were you cos I think you got a really distorted view of some of these mons without their signature moves. Still love your stuff tho!
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
mb, I wanted to keep my first impressions Authentic but that made me miss a bunch of stuff. It's hard to fully evaluate all the options of a Mon that you're seeing for the first time. If I do somethin like this again I'll prepare for it more
@ShadowTasos
@ShadowTasos Жыл бұрын
@@jimothycool yea on one hand I deffo like the authentic impressions, it was funny to see you get surprised by some of these broken moves. on the other hand I also rly wanted to hear your opinion on some of those other moves too, like Samurott is deffo going OU with that move imo but maybne Goodra and Wyrdeer have some potential too off their types. Zoroark is already strong due to its type (shits on Annihilape completely) but the move could also help it vs other phys checks, stuff like that
@largebigmacmealwithfanta
@largebigmacmealwithfanta Жыл бұрын
so some food for thought. hawlucha was quite good for ou for its unburden grassy/electric seed sets with swords dance, acrobatics, close combat, and taunt, sub, or coverage. it had 98 attack and could sweep through teams even if it just gets one swords dance up. sneasler has 130 attack.
@patrickburton1401
@patrickburton1401 Жыл бұрын
Flying and fighting is arguably a better offensive typing than fighting poison
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
Yep Sneasler is gonna be ridiculous
@lucasalarcon3230
@lucasalarcon3230 Жыл бұрын
Lucha was faster that pretty much everthing with unberden he was a clearner, the new weavile is more like a utility breaker that status everthing
@largebigmacmealwithfanta
@largebigmacmealwithfanta Жыл бұрын
@@lucasalarcon3230 and/or
@hozkahilgarri3936
@hozkahilgarri3936 Жыл бұрын
One thing that bugs me about the meta is that, after alllll these years, we still don't have any Pokémon with an Ability to set trick room on entry. Heck, there's not even an item to extend it by 3 turns. I hope someday Trick Room gets a little buff
@kachebelka3416
@kachebelka3416 Жыл бұрын
I think that an ability like that would be really cool for Smogon, but it would honestly suck for VGC. Trick Room is already quite strong in doubles formats, so it would probably really hurt VGC. But if that weren’t a problem I would definitely agree, since trick room has trouble lasting long enough to make a difference in singles, because usually the best abusers of Trick Room don’t actually learn it and have to rely on someone else to set it. And thus you have to set it up with those mons, then spend a turn switching to the Pokémon you want to have actually abuse it.
@kachebelka3416
@kachebelka3416 Жыл бұрын
As far as making an item that could extend it, I’m not a hundred percent sure how powerful that would be. I’m pretty confident it would be useful, but I’m not sure if that might still be a bit too much for doubles
@hozkahilgarri3936
@hozkahilgarri3936 Жыл бұрын
@@kachebelka3416 those are both really valid points, and I can't make a strong case against either. I've had similar thoughts about whether any buff to Trick Room would be too insane for doubles. The one I feel might be the least absurd would be an extender item, since it takes up a slot, and it seems natural considering the extension items for weather and terrain (and screens, though they aren't as impactful), and there's already the item Room Service. I suppose the caveat is that while weather and terrain only heavily affect specific Pokemon and moves, Trick Room reversing the speed tiers is a pretty huge deal. Either way, I'd like to see these "what ifs" explored in some way, like maybe if Smogon CAP drafted up a Pokémon specifically with a Trick Room ability.
@hozkahilgarri3936
@hozkahilgarri3936 Жыл бұрын
Although... I should add that one has to bear in mind the matter of cancellation. Whilst weather and terrains can cancel each other, and also there's Cloud Nine, and even some niche ways to end terrain like Steel Roller, the only way to get rid of Trick Room is to wait it out. I suppose if it were buffed, it'd need an inverse "soft nerf" in the form of an attack or something that could promptly end trick room.
@kachebelka3416
@kachebelka3416 Жыл бұрын
@@hozkahilgarri3936 Yeah, that’s what kinda sucks about having to worry about balancing both doubles and singles. But like I said, I’m not sure how much having an extender item would affect the meta. It needs to hit that fine line where it is just powerful enough to make it a more viable strat in singles while not being busted in doubles. I have the thought that maybe they could do the ability thing, but just have the only mon that has it be very fast, thus slowing itself down with its own ability. That way in doubles it wouldn’t be absolutely busted, I’m not sure if that would even be useful in singles though. Another thing I thought about is if they brought that ability in, but still had it on a mon that could use it effectively, what would the counters be? It’d be interesting to see. I wonder if people would actually run a counter trick room so that they could then just cancel trick room out. Or maybe Room Service could become meta as well. It’s very interesting to think about how the meta would adapt around a Pokémon like this.
@Prod.thatsquazy
@Prod.thatsquazy Жыл бұрын
Close combat + unburden + white herb on sneasler 🔥
@GunmarTheBlack
@GunmarTheBlack Жыл бұрын
Rock Head Arcanine holding Choice Specs, Tera Rock, max Speed, Flare Blitz, Rock Head, E-Speed, and a coverage move with good team synergy, paired with a drought Torkoal
@Duppy0906
@Duppy0906 Жыл бұрын
Jim: theres no other normal/ground that i can think about Diggersby: am i a joke to you also rip hisuan typhlosion, even its signature move isnt great, you also missed wyrdeers signature attack And the other genies get the same storm attack that enamorous gets but for theyr type
@makebuu
@makebuu Жыл бұрын
Here for the Banjo Kazooie music
@ferrousoxide7806
@ferrousoxide7806 Жыл бұрын
If you run both version of zoroark on a team that could be interesting. Hisui Zoroark is immune to the fighting types, and resists bug, and neutral to fairy that regular Z is weak to, while regular Z resists the dark type that hisui Z is weak to. Team preview is always what kind of ruined the surprise element of Zoroark becuase you could anticipate it to well, but with two of them that cover each other weaknesses so well, playing the guessing game about which of three pokemon is actually out on the field (either of the Zs or the pokemon they are illusioned as) and getting it wrong could be fatal.
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 Жыл бұрын
Hisui pokemon will probably fall under the species clause preventing doubles
@ferrousoxide7806
@ferrousoxide7806 Жыл бұрын
@@devinnall2284 aww ya, you're right, cause they have the same nat dex number, that's boring.
@YeetusDeletus
@YeetusDeletus Жыл бұрын
An idea for lilligant. Since it gets hustle and acrobatics, the accuracy drop from hustle is nullified since acrobatics always hit, while it still remains the 1.5x attack boost. And since it's 4 times week to flying, and both of it's 2 types cant really do anything against flying types, the opponent would ofc use flying moves at it, but this would hopefully trigger a focus sash you give it, which means then you fire back with a ln itemless huste boosted (probably also victory dance boosted) acrobatics and do huge amounts of damage (hopefully💀)
@RinSolos_
@RinSolos_ Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to use Jolly Basculegion with Scarf making it faster than a +speed nature dragapult and scarf Ghoul with the adaptability boost too it’s gonna be the best end game sweeper.
@rodywitlox4414
@rodywitlox4414 Жыл бұрын
Goodra can also be a sleep talk Pokémon with shell armor it should be able to always live those hits
@dragonhunter2001
@dragonhunter2001 Жыл бұрын
Have a good day Jim 🥳
@bagredecartola1289
@bagredecartola1289 Жыл бұрын
Scarf decidueye seems like a fun set
@supremeoverlordfallen5
@supremeoverlordfallen5 Жыл бұрын
Acid armor+body press goodra looks nuts
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
That sounds great.
@RockHoward256
@RockHoward256 Жыл бұрын
Sheer force Will be for wallbreaking, tinted lens for sweeping
@OmegaTyrant
@OmegaTyrant Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Sneasler avenging Weavile getting nerfed + power crept.
@turkeyblt5448
@turkeyblt5448 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Basculegion gets Last Respects, if you haven't shown or knew yet
@JustAsianEnough
@JustAsianEnough Жыл бұрын
Diggersby punching the air rn
@noname-pp2vd
@noname-pp2vd Жыл бұрын
i think i‘d like to use a substitute, swords dance, dire claw, close combat sneasler with black sludge
@flamenami
@flamenami Жыл бұрын
Qwilfish does have an evolution, Overqwil.
@Ju5t4l1z4rd
@Ju5t4l1z4rd Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Goodra’s signiture move boosts defence and evasion in PLA, not sure if the evasion boost transfer over to Scarlet & Violet Also there’s Overquil.
@hugovanelsen8629
@hugovanelsen8629 Жыл бұрын
Rock is in fact neutral to rock so hisuian arcanine still takes 25% from stealth rock
@jesuspernia8031
@jesuspernia8031 Жыл бұрын
This Arcanine is just made to throw out loads on damage and head out. It doesn’t care if it dies or not, it’s just made to throw powerful moves around.
@featdirty1127
@featdirty1127 Жыл бұрын
Banded Head Smash/Flare Blitz? As a hyper offence player, I approve
@jesuspernia8031
@jesuspernia8031 Жыл бұрын
@@featdirty1127 If you ran a H-Arcanine with only those 2 moves and a band (and no other moves) you would most likely still do some heavy damage lol. I just throw in Wild Charge or CC as last coverage move and E. Speed because that’s always useful.
@BananaReidy
@BananaReidy Жыл бұрын
I saw sneasler learns drain punch in legends but isn't able to in s/v. Really a miss in my book.
@skakee10
@skakee10 Жыл бұрын
Probably for the best. With dire claw it'll do just fine regardless
@DaMaster012
@DaMaster012 Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Typhlosion has slightly different stats than Jhoto Typhlosion (which are the exact same as Charizard'#). It has five less points in HP and Speed, but ten more points in Special Attack.
@mbot1901
@mbot1901 Жыл бұрын
I also think it’s important to point out that electrode has taunt as well so on most sets it might be good to slap on there
@krittaponmepornbucha1281
@krittaponmepornbucha1281 Жыл бұрын
Mab ceaseless edge and stone axe is nuts and both are boosted by sharpness likw god damn
@causticmoney5472
@causticmoney5472 Жыл бұрын
Am i tripping or did we skip over Overquil
@lucillefrancois150
@lucillefrancois150 Жыл бұрын
Idk how good Overqwil (I think that’s how it’s spelled) will be, but eviolite quilfish-h will certainly be interesting as an intimidate wall
@darktemplar446
@darktemplar446 Жыл бұрын
Wait...your a pokemom fan and didn't play legends Arceus? 🤨🤔
@NiraSader
@NiraSader Жыл бұрын
I think that Avalugg pretty much only works in trick room with its signature move.
@insertnameh_re
@insertnameh_re Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out that arcanine-hisui is still weak to stealth rocks because rock doesn't resist rock
@drxavier1870
@drxavier1870 Жыл бұрын
I like thinking the Hisuian mons are so insane is because they technically were created in a PvE game so they could get away with that stuff and it carried over
@Nutleaf420
@Nutleaf420 Жыл бұрын
Sheer force would remove the speed on esper wing but not the crit rate
@enternam3854
@enternam3854 Жыл бұрын
sheer force isn't affected by high crit moves but will count the speed boost as an affect.
@mistake1197
@mistake1197 Жыл бұрын
Man's forgot facade on ursaluna say it ain't so.
@n00bgamer97
@n00bgamer97 Жыл бұрын
If Jimothy has a million fans I am one of them. If Jimothy has ten fans I am one of them. If Jimothy has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If the World is against Jimothy, I am against the World. I love Jimothy till my last breath.
@asterlofts1565
@asterlofts1565 Жыл бұрын
An entire team based on absorbing Water, Electric, Grass, Fire, Ground and other types is going to be fun this Generation... Imagine, for example, a Flying Type Parichisu that absorbs electricity... only an Ice type could kill it easily. Or Girafari, Farigiraf, or Bluemaril with Grass Absorption but make it a Rock-type or Water-type with Teracrystallization, to tempt a player using Grass-type Pokemon to attack it. XD
@1originalaccountname
@1originalaccountname Жыл бұрын
I can easily see H.Samurwott being a top tier mon in OU. It has so much going for it. While 90/80/60 isn't the most insane defenses, it's typing lets it resist the STABs of Gholdengo, Chi-Yu and Chien-Pao, which will make it useful in and of itself. It's bulk also is good enough to let it live a hit or two. 85 speed is good enough to outrun most of not all defensive mons and would make for an excellent Choice Scarf user. Offensively is where it shines, 108/100 is actually really great when you realize pretty much every move it'll use will be getting a x1.5 boost from Sharpness. Ceaseless Edge will be one of the strongest attacks in the game. A 65bp move that not only gets STAB, the x1.5 boost from Sharpness AND most importantly a free layer of Spikes up is insane. It removes most if not all prediction as even if they send in a resist, you'll be getting up a spike on top of respectable chip damage, 90% of the time. The rest of its movepool is stellar. Aqua Cutter, Razor Shell, Sacred Sword, X-Scissor, and Air Slash all get the Sharpness boost. It gets both Aqua Jet and Sucker Punch for priority and even gets Knock Off, but you'll probably never run it to be honest, Ceaseless Edge is just that good and always hits as hard as Knock Off when they have an item. It also gets Swords Dance if you want to run a boosting set. I fully expect this to be running crazy on the ladder come release Samurott-Hisui @ Choice Scarf Ability: Sharpness Tera Type: Flying EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly or Hasty Nature - Ceaseless Edge - Razor Shell / Aqua Cutter - Sacred Sword - X-Scissor / Air Slash Azumarill walls it, but even then you click Ceaseless Edge and get your free spike with a side of chip damage. Some Grass types like Breloom can be an issue, but wouldn't like to eat an Air Slash which even with no investment will hit hard enough because of Sharpness. Tera Flying for the resistances to Fighting, Bug and Grass and to potentially boost Air Slash's damage, but Ghost could also work, as could it's STABs. Hasty over Naive on the mixed set and the 4spdef are for the fact the current strongest attackers are special. Razor Shell over Aqua Cutter for slightly higher damage and the 50% chance for a defense drop, the 95% accuracy hurts it, but those defense drops will let it break through would be checks, especially later in the game after some spike and rocks damage. Sacred Sword is great coverage, and X-Scissor lets him hit Grass types with a hard, Sharpness boosted attack. 90% of the time, you'll probably just click Ceaseless Edge though.
@persch6940
@persch6940 Жыл бұрын
Imagine electrode with explosion and choplast and a team mate with revival blasting
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
That sounds Funny! I'll try that
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 Жыл бұрын
Tera normal explosion
@asteriskonline3494
@asteriskonline3494 Жыл бұрын
He looks younger than I expected.
@Joshuaskehan-mk8cj
@Joshuaskehan-mk8cj Жыл бұрын
I use goodra hiusui on Pokémon radical red showdown, max spA max hp with an assault vest. Flamethrower, ice beam, thunderbolt and heavy slam for tapu Lele and other fairies. This Mon is top tier. Eats special attacks for days and has enough special attack itself to dish out hard hitting moves and with the vast coverage it hits most mons for super effective
@dogboyton3166
@dogboyton3166 Жыл бұрын
Overquill: Am I a joke to you?
@WillyLongLegs
@WillyLongLegs Жыл бұрын
Hisuian qwilfish gets eviolite, is it still not good? Maybe.
@muscularclassrepresentativ5663
@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 Жыл бұрын
Shoulda done some calcs and made a follow up on common threats. Guess we're gonna see how meta shapes up lol
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Жыл бұрын
not my best vid forgive me.
@austinhensley6553
@austinhensley6553 Жыл бұрын
ice rock was the type of one of the gen 6 fossil mons too
@jazzercise300
@jazzercise300 Жыл бұрын
Unburden air balloon sneasler, assault vest h goodra, h zoroark as a fast utility mon (ghost/normal makes illusion a lot better too) and intimidate overquil w toxic have been my favorites. Guts ursaluna w facade is cool too but kinda a one trick pony. Sneasler has by far been my favorite to use. Swords dance plus unburden close combat or poison touch fake out/dire claw. Wyrdeer is the most dissapointing and avalugg did as well as expected which is not good at all lol Edit: also forgot that I see basculegion using last respect on uber rain teams. Or maybe it was nat dex? Cant remember. Either way thats probably the most broken one ive seen by far. And H lilligant was surprisingly great.
@doodreallyultrakill
@doodreallyultrakill Жыл бұрын
65 base power x 1.5 sharpness boost x 1.5 stab is 135 base power. So Kleavor has an effective 135 base power rock type move with a 130 base attack stat --and the move also sets stealth rock
@peasantb100d
@peasantb100d Жыл бұрын
I think Victory Dance Drain Punch Lilligant is gonna be massive, especially with a sash
@Mothsune
@Mothsune Жыл бұрын
idk if u noticed but electrode is now the best subseed mon in the game due to its speed and typing
@Mothsune
@Mothsune Жыл бұрын
Also ursaluna theres diggersby, and you didn't mention facade at all and u didn't mention overqwill at all
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 Жыл бұрын
Sub/seed/protect then explode when they're at low hp
@q6969
@q6969 Жыл бұрын
Am I hearing Final Fantasy IX music in the background?
@longbeing
@longbeing Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the double Zoroark mind games. Imagine trying to hit Zoroark with a fighting move and finding it’s actually immune because it’s Hisuian Zoroark.
@thegreatkiwibeast2591
@thegreatkiwibeast2591 Жыл бұрын
This is peak tomfuckery
@intersabbo
@intersabbo Жыл бұрын
3:00 rock does not resist rock
@callumsutton943
@callumsutton943 Жыл бұрын
Avalug is not the first rock ice type as aurorus ( a gen 6 fossil ) was the worst
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