They are 4 stroke. The inlet valve operates by vacuum and the exhaust valve is the method of speed regulation. The exhaust valve opening is disabled when the governor detects the speed is too high.
@TedCornish3 ай бұрын
I’ve always wanted one, I mean all my 54 years of adulthood I’ve wanted one. And I still do. It’s beautiful my friend
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Thanks. These are great to play with.
@DavidBostock-ti2fv2 ай бұрын
Not only that, it doesn't weigh 750 lbs and use an awkward amount of floor space in a one car garage.
@Red_Whitenblu2 ай бұрын
Go to an RC hobby shop and get a small 2 or 4 stroke engine. They work off of glow plugs and a kind of diesel fuel because they are actually diesel engines. .80 cc I think. They have them shown in youtube. There isnt an engine that hasnt been available to the public. Even turbojet engines. (Your neighbors will love you for that). Just gotta know what you want and where to look.
@johngillon6969Ай бұрын
i wanted a wilesco steam traktor starting when i was 8 years old. at age 50 at breakfast one saturday saw an ad in the news paper for a sale at a toy store. for some reason i don't recall, my wife and i got into a loud argument, i got in my old dodge, drove to the store and spent more than a half week of pay to buy that wonderful toy. 74 years old now and i still play with the tractor. it felt great to relieve that yearning. i've picked up 3 more since then. JUST GO GET ONE.
@TedCornishАй бұрын
@ my friend every passing year I say this is my time, things crop up so the cash goes into something else. I keep looking as one day it will be my time to get one of my all time favourite things. Take care and I’m really happy you got your dream 👍👍👍👍
@antibrevityАй бұрын
I really wanted to see the engine run under a slight load, but thank you for sharing this much.
@briancooper5622 ай бұрын
My grandfather had a big daddy version of this that ran on paraffin and had a ratchet handle to start it. His farm had no mains electric and water was drawn up by a wind pump (ATCO type). The engine was used to run the milking machine twice a day and sometimes a bale conveyor for hay and straw bale storage. He ran it and the water pump until he retired in 1960. Considering it was bought in about 1935 I think it payed for its self.
@stevesmith-sb2df3 ай бұрын
I like watching the big hit & Miss start from a tractor with a flat belt on the flywheel. The model looks fun !
@thephantomarseАй бұрын
Nice I allways remember as a kid my nans next door neighbour an old retired tool maker used to hand make these kind of engines and steam engines in his back garden workshop they were beautifull
@xvdifug3 ай бұрын
Pre-heat with a hair dryer, Works great for small nitro engines too.
@g7eit3 ай бұрын
I love the irregular sound of the hit and miss engine.
@jamesmeredith3812 ай бұрын
My dad was a Steam Engineer working setting up saw mills mining equipment! We restored a few steam powered tractor! We restored my steam powered truck and a steam powered boat! The steam whistle is the best! I go out as much as possible and people up & down the river and lake, tooting for me to use the steam whistle!
@obdiah13 ай бұрын
I may be wrong but it appears to be a four stroke engine and. It does oil the cylinder from the drip tube at the base of the cylinder but two stroke oil is still a good idea
@pepethefrog71933 ай бұрын
It is 4 stroke. Speciality is the pressure controlled intake valve with no pushrod. Those hit-miss are more efficient than throttled engines at part load. There is no throttle to restrict airflow, they always run full compression.
@eldoradoboy3 ай бұрын
@@pepethefrog7193 arent theyt taking on fuel and exhausting it unburned during the off strokes or is the intke valve spring loaded where it wont open and allow airfuel in?
@pepethefrog71933 ай бұрын
@@eldoradoboy During off strokes the exaust valve stays open and the spring loaded intake does not open. No fuel wasted, Maybe the video creator can do a slo-mo of the valves during on and off?
@JohnSmith-pl2bk3 ай бұрын
@@eldoradoboy There should be some cooling effect when the piston goes up and down on the "miss" cycle as air is drawn into and leaves the cylinder via the exhaust valve which is being held "open" by the governor "catch"....
@marcopruscini16033 ай бұрын
The outlet is held open by the governor. So it doesn't suck the inlet open.@@eldoradoboy
@youdandee1Ай бұрын
I’m 62 and I used to see these as a kid and always wanted one.well here’s my turn Haha
@CB-RADIO-UKАй бұрын
Fun on a kitchen table.
@SiskinOnUTube3 ай бұрын
My dad was always going upstairs for a hit and miss.
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
:-)
@Red_Whitenblu2 ай бұрын
Lol.
@paulhorn2665Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jozefbubez6116Ай бұрын
Great! When I was a kid back in the 1950s engines of this type would still be found on building sites pumping out flood water etc.
@eifionjones559Ай бұрын
model engines are great and we all deserve a mid life toy lol!, I have several different ones not counting steam engines I make or restore
@The67wheelmanАй бұрын
Wrap rubber bands on the drill chuck and use it as a friction starter
@JohnVHRCАй бұрын
Those are so cool! I have had a few big ones, never one that small
@CB-RADIO-UKАй бұрын
Yes they are!
@ditto19583 ай бұрын
Amazing such a simple engine can work so well
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Very solid design and simple but they were quite inefficient back in the day and is why diesel took over.
@dodgydruid3 ай бұрын
I have a very rare Mamod, a 1939 SC3 and still in fully working order and original box... lovely old piece :D
@shawntailor54853 ай бұрын
My dadsfriend had old tractors with steel wheels and these engines on them i was always fascinated with them and got to drive it finnally when i got old enuff .RIP RUSS.
@PrebleStreetRecords2 ай бұрын
This would be the perfect thing to run a small watchmaker’s lathe, albeit with a larger fuel supply.
@christo9302 ай бұрын
These were popular on farms and such because they are very fuel efficient. It only burns fuel under load when the engine slows down.
@marcopruscini16033 ай бұрын
This one runs much faster if it could. Common conversion is to shorten or change the governor spring. Shortened Bic lighter spring works well.
@dbomber692 ай бұрын
Take a strip of rubber from an inner tube and make a "ROPE" to pull start it. Flat strip of rubber wrapped around a flywheel given a yank and it's running.
@larrybremer49303 ай бұрын
I have always wanted to build a triple expansion steam engine model, but I have to admit that hit and miss engine is pretty nice, a lot cheaper, and no machining required. I really wish there was some good steam engine model kits that were already fully machined. I just want to assemble, tune, and run it.
@robedmunds71632 ай бұрын
See the full-size versions of these at vintage shows. They get free entry, and this would be easier to transport😂
@bruced14293 ай бұрын
Fred you need now to buy a full scale hit and miss and have some real fun. I would like to have a Fairbanks Morse 4 cylinder 160 hp. They really rumble the ground.
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
My father in law had a stationary engine which he used to take to shows. Needed a trailer to tow it though.
@goosenotmaverick11562 ай бұрын
I love the sound of that particular engine. I know exactly the one you're talking about. 😂
@goosenotmaverick11562 ай бұрын
@CB-RADIO-UK there are also small ones. Fairbanks Morse Z comes to mind. The smaller single digit horsepower rated ones are transported usually by a small cart. They're not miniscule but are definitely more manageable in cost and transport. Not easy but easier.
@paulmeynell88662 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@DavidBostock-ti2fv2 ай бұрын
Apparently Google has been reading my mind and ratted me out. This is more compact than the stationary steam engines advertised constantly during my youth that I have never seen real life.
@CB-RADIO-UK2 ай бұрын
These little models do exist these days. Still expensive but not compared to a few years ago.
@cbrmac3 ай бұрын
We had a lister engine like that on the farm years ago 😁
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Sweet. They are collectable now.
@DavoShed3 ай бұрын
Nice Video! I want a full size steam engine with about 2km of track around my property. I want to be the crazy guy on the hill that blokes secretly want to be mates with. I have a hit and miss engine 🤠
@owenchristyjrii2 ай бұрын
I'VE FOUND MY IDENTICAL HAND TWIN! -Joey
@campingstoveman3 ай бұрын
A nice engine but a couple of points, what you have there is a four stroke, two strokes don't have an inlet valve or an exhaust valve, You don't need to add two stroke as the oiler on the cylinder block is there to lubricate the pistons.
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Hi Thanks for clearing that up.
@stanleybest88333 ай бұрын
My toy is the Sichuan Sifa MB168F diesel engine on Amazon. The smallest one with the offset filler cap on the red diesel tank. It's not really a toy. Just well cared and the shaft adapted to 1 inch. I cranked in the restrictor bolt. I don't want it running anywhere near 3000 RPM. I stick to pump diesel and 15W40 oil. Watch the oil level and mount it on plate aluminum not steel.
@hereward19713 ай бұрын
But will it decode FT8? Have a little steam engine that equally fasinates :)
@pepethefrog71933 ай бұрын
My endlife crisis toy is a 650kg excavator.
@sjefleenaerts72773 ай бұрын
my choice stays on a Komatsu D355A
@henrybangsberg21873 ай бұрын
There is no cast iron in these. The flywheels come in two variations: One is solid cast steel flywheels, the other is cast aluminum centers with steel rims. There is no cast iron in these engines. The body is cast aluminum with a steel cylinder wall and one or two rubber o-ring piston rings (again, 2 piston designs). This is a delightful engine and one of the best looking Chinese made hit and miss engines that runs very well.
@andrewfishpool893 ай бұрын
Nice video Frid...sorry Fred. Thought it was a mamod when I first saw it in my feed.😂
@howardslack48902 ай бұрын
You need a starter used for gas rec cars. Rubber wheel that you attach to a motor and bump the flywheel
@jerseyjeeper15752 ай бұрын
More of these videos! ❤
@gamingfuchs93313 ай бұрын
your so right. i want one for like 10 years😂
@keithcarpenter52543 ай бұрын
Dashpots is a nice period style detail. Definitely run synthetic oil @ 10% whilst runnig petrol. 😊
@frosthoe2 ай бұрын
No Fred I dont want one! But I would be interested in a philly steak with cheese! Actually Im working on a 1 stroke design here. sigh. Aka a "never miss engine". I think that if you get your hands on one of these in a few years, you will be amazed that no one made a 1 stroke before this. But Im more into the machining and building then the ownership. Once its made and works well its on to the next or onto the shelf until its time comes. Best wishes friendly model makers! Maybe ill make a hit or miss now too, dang it>>> you didi it! Facepalm, I failed to resist and am now interested.
@StoopidFishRacingАй бұрын
if wanting cool schyt is a midlife crisis, count me in!
@NepsiNetCEOАй бұрын
0:16 Hey, don’t diss Wilesco. The only thing they use plastic for is some handles, like whistle handles and firebox-drawer handles. And quality? They are very high quality. If you take care of one of their engines good enough, it can last longer than you. Steam engines from when they started making them in the 50’s or smth like that still work. They also only do steam engines. Aimed at children? Sure, they could be. But it would be great fun burning yourself on 70% of the parts.
@gangleweed3 ай бұрын
I have the plans for a hit and miss engine that went around our model club in the late 80's.made from steel fabrications etc.......I often wondered if one could be run on a model diesel engine mix?......diesel fuel, ether and engine oil.
@c0ntag10nАй бұрын
Very cool!
@gilesgreenaway56552 ай бұрын
Looks like no counterbalancer on crankshaft!
@dammitdad2 ай бұрын
Very cool
@mrc15392 ай бұрын
Remove one spring off the governor or replace both springs with weaker ones and it will slow down and run and sound like a real hit n miss .
@markstainton90802 ай бұрын
Use a flat leather strap wrapped around a flywheel rim as a starter pull.
@richardrowland70442 ай бұрын
Use a higher refined oil for lubricant like sewing machine oil
@alexroca6981Ай бұрын
Those "cast iron" flywheels look suspiciously like the aluminium flywheels of the same size, easily available online.
@CB-RADIO-UKАй бұрын
No i think they are steel as they weigh a lot.
@Greg-et2dp3 ай бұрын
Frid in the shed your KZbin videos are awesome my friend
@Spy_Pigeon_2Ай бұрын
Could you possibly replace the oil drip containers with grease fittings and Grease the bearings
@CB-RADIO-UK29 күн бұрын
Maybe. I am not really sure.
@Milkybar33200113 ай бұрын
Time to add an alternator and generate a few volts
@aurthorthing74033 ай бұрын
I always wanted a glowplug airplane engine. I should get one before I die, right?
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Yes i rem those engines. We used to call them " frog engines" for some reason. They run on diesel well. Deffo dont leave things too late. Cant take it with you.
@Youtubecensoredmyusername3 ай бұрын
Got one as a 12 year old then immediately was sent to boarding school. The two are not related 😂 I’d say do it even if you run it once then throw it away. Just be weary about buying more or spare parts it can get out of control ha ha
@JamesFolkersАй бұрын
I had one fastened to a wood post when I was a kid. Loved running it - would really have loved to have been able to afford a plane…
@jeta1ininuviknwt3 ай бұрын
Nice, but I already have a lawn mower with a simple hard to start vibe to it.
@mattyb77363 ай бұрын
The piston should be lubricated from the main oiler on the rear top of the cylinder, you shouldn't need 2 stroke oil at all, the piston skirt should drag the oil forward and lube the cylinder wall and rings,
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Davejust4513 ай бұрын
It helps.
@tonylozano27422 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the hopper be filled with water?
@CB-RADIO-UK2 ай бұрын
Yes it should
@voltare2amstereo2 ай бұрын
Have it run a dyno and use it to charge a phone
@zakksrage2 ай бұрын
It literally has an oiler cup on the back of the cylinder and is in no way like a 2 stroke engine. Hence the valves, and the lack of crankcase pressure fed air fuel mix
@321CatboxWAАй бұрын
Please make it power something. Like a pencil,knife sharpener or a grinding stone, polishing wheel , USB charger . Thank you
@seandowns42982 ай бұрын
A true midlife crisis is wanting a 1000cc sports bike and a Thai bride😂😂😂😂
@ChookchaserY3 ай бұрын
i have a full size version I've just restored, rosebery 2hp, the oiler at the rear of cylinder is all that is neede to lube the piston and cylnder no 2 stroke oil needed, why does the model version need it?
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Thats a good point. I see what you mean.
@yesihavereadit3 ай бұрын
I want one and I want it now
@cbrmac3 ай бұрын
Nice piece of engineering there Fred ....try with a bit of nitrus oxide 🤣
@irongron3 ай бұрын
lol, it needs a blower kit too! vroooooom!
@MrRedeyedJedi3 ай бұрын
You could make that wooden base yourself pretty easily
@bubbafrump74Ай бұрын
That was some wicked nasty lookin' tap water!!! 😂 where I'm from water is clear... you may want to get ahold of someone about that before you end up with superpowers from drinking yellow nuclear waste water... 🤔... or don't!
@Greg-et2dp3 ай бұрын
Frid in the shed I learn lot from you about bying cb radios and power supplys and antenna for cb radios my friend
@bazxl573 ай бұрын
Mammod went out business August this year
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Yes i know. Gutted. I think it was due to the fuel tablets being banned.
@bazxl573 ай бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK I did know about the fuel tablets, after all these years.
@andrewfishpool893 ай бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK Even after 40 years I can still smell those fuel tablets. Can't imagine it did me much good. I didn't know they were banned.
@@andrewfishpool89the general role is if People enjoy something it must be banned.
@crissd82832 ай бұрын
Where can you get lead fuel?
@CB-RADIO-UK2 ай бұрын
Garage ?
@WineScrounger2 ай бұрын
You generally can’t, and you shouldn’t. If you really must, 100LL Avgas has a small amount of lead in it.
@NBSV12 ай бұрын
Small airports often sell it because most of the small propeller planes run on leaded fuel.
@Rebel9668Ай бұрын
For $350.00 I can get a full size original one of these about 30 miles away on facebook marketplace, lol. They can keep their $350.00 toy.
@CB-RADIO-UKАй бұрын
You have to love the USA for cheap bargains. Full sized engines are $1850 over here plus collection costs. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226443394148?_skw=hit+and+miss+stationary+engine&itmmeta=01JDMH8RJYJ4388RV5RCGHGGSX&hash=item34b913fc64:g:bxMAAOSwgfdnD~-9&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABAHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKn7WbQ8aWiFWT4eYCbB6xwu1ytdBTx3KTZ2jgunzL64zKruTNwtbzJEk%2BJqttuDZR86R6v0ivVqs4rbYjDBGltjZJZDWt%2FZcN62RcwTeKUk2apKicHsrVJq92VIxWlQY5Io8t7EF34wjXW1E1jhcida%2FIiCQOxT1QmMkRIT8QQOantF678Xg%2FX12k1sz5kQMFIOKteuNUREQFnOFZG3n3SNvwbCRpE77rKSGGUO0MLq9--fZ6wEMrKHECUpAcbNRkf%2FKcQ7YlLfUbsyD7aEryeIz3IPQ3qMPznTQYCB%2Fd8ZGUEQ%2FOpkXLMROaIVY2bWalU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8SJo5HtZA
@hansvonflammenwerfer281727 күн бұрын
You reckon i can put a turbo on it?
@CB-RADIO-UK26 күн бұрын
LOL nope :-)
@HyperMAX90013 ай бұрын
Has anyone fixed the regulator to hold stable revs? And what fuel works best?
@starbolin2 ай бұрын
The rpm "hunting" is not a fault. The regulator is working as designed.
@winstonchurchill65063 ай бұрын
Is it any good on cw bands
@metricstormtrooper3 ай бұрын
It's not a fully working Two Stroke Engine, it's four stroke.
@dennisyoung46312 ай бұрын
“…spit-n-hiss engine….” They make that kind of noise…
@TonyLoechte3 ай бұрын
Sheel rip your head off 😂😂 Yes Ive been there 😂😂
@maxrockatanksyOG3 ай бұрын
I remember my Great Grandfather had an Australian version hit & miss to pump water from the lower dam up to an old concrete tank that fed their house. We would heat it up in cold Walcha (town in NSW) snowy winters with a WW2 acetylene kit he had "tactically relocated" after the war. Could hear the damn thing 500m away- bang knuck knuck knuck
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Great history right there. Thanks for sharing.
@goosenotmaverick11562 ай бұрын
"Tactically relocated" 😂😂 Great story, thanks for sharing!
@stevcejanev77953 ай бұрын
what is this used for?
@MONTY-YTNOM3 ай бұрын
fun
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Its quite powerful so could be used as a model to drive other equipment.
@3209-f4h2 ай бұрын
NO, I haven’t ever wanted one!
@CB-RADIO-UK2 ай бұрын
However you were interested to watch the video and leave 3 comments.
@hitnmiss493 ай бұрын
It is actually a 4 stroke engine.
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@AndrewSparkfish3 ай бұрын
I assume there is a spark plug ....
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Yes seen testing in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-5nZaFabuDi68
@Greg-et2dp3 ай бұрын
Frid in the shed your model egine is awesome my friend 😅😅😅😅
@gobstoppa16333 ай бұрын
i could chug along all day. MINT".
@Greg-et2dp3 ай бұрын
Frid in the shed 73s to you and your wife my friend 😅😅😅😅
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Thanks Grid
@snoutysnouterson2 ай бұрын
Ventura? Jesse Ventura?
@bfarm443 ай бұрын
I bought a new motorcycle instead
@bobskimaxx3 ай бұрын
HOW MUCH!!!!! 😢😢
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
LOL you need to look at higher end steam engine models. Believe me this engine is quite cheap. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335481299589?chn=ps&_ul=GB&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=335481299589&targetid=2361039923645&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046034&poi=&campaignid=21697381820&mkgroupid=170109506289&rlsatarget=pla-2361039923645&abcId=10027101&merchantid=6995734&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwx4O4BhAnEiwA42SbVCdgNgoC2cibKJHP4ITI5BPh8wuOgM_ju-Uf3x4UmuTgIMKCXzFCARoCYCgQAvD_BwE
@congerthomas1812Ай бұрын
WOW your pounds are down compared to the $
@EanestoB0rg9-s1hАй бұрын
1 second into the video: nope, don't want it.
@CB-RADIO-UKАй бұрын
Oh well guess thanks for the one second then.
@jasperpatrick76283 ай бұрын
This is why I Will never be a radio ham ffs
@chipwright61933 ай бұрын
The reason it's a mid-life crisis toy is because we couldn't afford to buy or build one sooner.
@camillosteuss2 ай бұрын
Brother, just because this is an ``engine`` doesn`t mean that it wants engine oil... Int. comb. engines use pressurized, filtered oil systems, the oil used in them is designed for that system... A little clonker like this has no filters, has no pressurized injection, it runs on gravity and viscous friction that cycles the oil with component revolutions or strokes... This would much prefer a hydraulic oil or any other wear-reduction oil that is wholly free of detergents of any sort... Wear red. additives are fine, but also need to be checked, as material compatibility is still imperative when oiling a running system... Lubricants are not universal nor should they ever be used as such... Tolerances and all system clearances are designed to revolve around and allow a specific oil to do the job of lubrication flawlessly or the thing just breaks apart, you can`t run any oil just because it appears to be of adequate viscosity... The two stroke oil is a perfect advice, hell, that shit is a good advice on modern car engines, both petrol and diesel as a fuel additive, especially the additive rich 2stroke oils that help clean the engine and the exhaust, as otherwise you risk dpf/cat/whatever other component potentially getting caked up with soot, which the cleaning oil actually helps remove, so it`s even better than just adding those ``injector cleaners`` or what not to the fuel, as those drop the lubricating properties of both diesel and petrol, which is not great for the cylinders, where the 2stroke oil is great for the whole system, as long as it is designed to help clean the engine and the related systems... (also does wonders for the fuel pump, again - both petrol and diesel) Best regards! Steuss
@CB-RADIO-UK2 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for extra info. Yes males perfect sense.
@chucky23163 ай бұрын
I want the bigger thing 😂. Im a anti social creature fred. I drive a DIESEL 😂 oppps sorry greta
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
Yeh. I drove a diesel for 15 years to the ULEZ killed it .
@casemodder893 ай бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK dewalt, milwaukee, bosch, fein.... all got a proper answer to ULEZ 😂❤
@brynnond.69523 ай бұрын
$530 no wonder you only see these in sponsored videos
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
In the world of quality model engines its very cheap. Go look on ebay.
@James-kd7dc3 ай бұрын
You have leaded petrol!? I see some countries haven't totally lost the plot.
@CB-RADIO-UK3 ай бұрын
No bud we have been lead free for years.
@FurryAnimator20 күн бұрын
😊😊🫂🫂
@MegaCyrik2 ай бұрын
It cost more than 3x brand new 1000watt generators. Price is a massive FU scam. 😂
@CB-RADIO-UK2 ай бұрын
Yeah but its a model not a generator.
@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-19682 ай бұрын
No thanks, I'll wait until China makes one for half the price.