"Hit the Bar" Episode 70: The Sneaky Tactics of Dr. Michael Brown!

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[@happygilmore3706]

He gaslights, deflects, mocks, uses word salad, is not accountable, cares only about his reputation, victimhood, brags, etc = narcissistic behavior

[@scottdwyer4776]

And so condescending!

[@Orquet-qj2nf]

Yup. Totally. And time and time again, proves he knows better, he's just brown nosing people richer than him.

[@SolaGratia.]

Exactly. I think he has a serious personality disorder, which explains why he cannot be reasoned with, no matter how reasonable you may be. He's in it to win, not to obey the Bible, and if the Bible can't reach him, no one can. He needs to humble himself and I fear that's the very last thing he intends to do on this earth. He'll get no praise and riches from men for that.

[@debbiefreeman9481]

That’s what I was seeing, narcissistic, very immature deflecting behavior.

[@wildrover9650]

Michael Brown the apologist for the apostates.

[@johnpeters9777]

Charismatics can't see Charismatic apostasy ever. They are literally unable to call out an Charismatic leader ever.

[@Window4503]

⁠@@johnpeters9777Not true. There are charismatics who are part of the discernment camp that are willing to call out the heretics in their midst. These tend to be those closer to cessationism who believe sign gifts are still used but are more rare (which overlaps with what some cessationists believe). Ever is a strong word. They’re susceptible to accepting wolves because of the nature of their theology, but it’s a flat out lie to say they never call anyone out. In fact, part of the reason I was caught up with them for a few years was because they had called out the most obvious heretics. As the tides shift, more are starting to see.

[@WtfOmw]

@@johnpeters9777religion is apostasy from reason.

[@gailwatson4927]

I have put Michael Brown on my mark and and avoid list.

[@energizer7354]

Same, considering 2 John 1:10-11 says about taking part of a false teacher wicked works for greeting them, covering for them is enough to steer far away from

[@jbuckley2515]

Messed up church has helped me soooo much to find clarity!

[@mark-dv9gb]

Me too !!!

[@Dilley_G45]

Good Lutheran content 👌

[@melchysomba9690]

Me too

[@RobertEMason]

I've lost respect for Dr. Brown. He's highly educated and eloquent, but his support of blatant charlatans and false prophets destroys any credibility. I immediately scroll past any video from him or the quack Sid Roth

[@robertj5208]

Can’t trust his Hebrew.

[@Dilley_G45]

I never respected him. I learned about him through good Christian channels like this' "Fighting for the Faith", "Bryan Wolfmueller" and "Dr. Jordan Cooper"

[@caroleimani9754]

​@@robertj5208What's wrong with his Hebrew😮??

[@kerriferguson2023]

Michael Brown admits to "heavy drug use" in his past. "Heavy drug use"! It would be futile to believe that such drug use has not affected his brain and I believe that is why he defends some of this nonsense that he does!

[@dennislam1501]

Dr Brown is NARly… run!

[@ryanbeaver6080]

The more I pay attention to Dr Brown the more I notice about his tactics of obfuscation. I believe it takes a hard look at the Brownsville revival to understand Dr Brown.

[@ryanbeaver6080]

I’m really starting to understand just how dangerous Brown is…

[@ivanasimic2072]

He is ALL in, very sneaky agent

[@jennesset1102]

⁠@@ryanbeaver6080. Will you please elaborate on how the Brownsville revival helps to understand Dr, Brown? I’m intrigued. Thank you. 😊

[@LadyoftheBunnies]

@ryanbeaver6080 Me too. I didn't think Brown was that bad until I heard more and more of his older sermons ect. At Brownsville When he yelled "fire" at people and pushed them down I lost respect for him as a Bible teacher.

[@toomanymarys7355]

According to Brown, it must be be wrong to criticize Luther's antisemitism. Yet weirdly he is criticizing it.

[@peterthomsett8733]

I have never been so angry! I'm called to be a godly husband, father, son, brother and neighbour. I am called to work with the greatest intergrity in my Science Lab at my school. I play soccer and I am called to be godly to my own team, the opposition and the referees. No boasting but this is my calling and I just want to hear on the last day "Well done good and faithful servant."

[@jackiwheeler6963]

@peterthomsett8733 that is so great!!

[@matthewmattson7584]

That’s how I started. My conviction came from reading the Bible, and became convicted from the Holy Spirit! I’ve said things in complete ignorance and am grateful that God forgives! ❤️❤️❤️

[@arielflyer6113]

HALLELUJAH, & AMEN!!!

[@trainer1634]

*@matthew ..... Absolutely so true. In Jesus name. Yes and Amen. Glory to our Holy Father 4 his word truth grace mercy forgiveness + salvation.

[@karenlaw2002]

He doesn't want to call out any of his "buddies" because he'll never get on their platforms again.

[@TheJpep2424]

Yep. He wants to keep the pipeline $$$ open.

[@Dilley_G45]

Please pray for our Christian brothers in Dagestan who suffered from an Islamic terrorist attack

[@lauraliviola7028]

❤Yes, prayers in Jesus holy name!🙏🙏🙏💙💙💙👍❤

[@jackiwheeler6963]

Praying!!

[@yl5020]

🙏🏽

[@samuelflores1419]

Free the world from islaaam and its ideology!

[@JBM101]

they are too busy researching for thier next you tube reveal ...

[@LadyoftheBunnies]

I used to think that Brown was just wrong but still a brother BUT since going through the archives of "Fighting For the Faith" listening to Browns old teachings and watching videos of him at Brownsville it makes so much sense now at why he defends these heretics so much... He's may be good at Jewish evangelism but he's not leading then into true Christianity. It doesn't make me happy to say this but I think it's true and I'd love to be wrong... I pray that Brown and Storms and (others like them) truly repent and hear the beautiful gospel that Christ did it all and that the burden they put on people will be lifted✝️

[@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx]

f4f is goated

[@Fetsimo]

"Shout out to all of our campuses!!!" LOL, flashbacks of my old BAD church 😂

[@Dilley_G45]

That and and Chris Roseborough "let's whirl up the desktop" 😊

[@caroleimani9754]

I belonged to a Word of Faith Church for about 37 years...I don't know if I would say.that the Church was BAD...I did learn a lot of what NOT TO DO, so they had that going for them😮

[@brittanyparistx]

I really appreciated Mike Winger’s video on Benny Hinn. He seems like a genuinely good dude who’s teaching the Word.

[@ElainePsalm91]

Agree 100% 😊🥰

[@michaelenelson1456]

I just watched a video of Costi Hinn the nephew of uncle Benny & it was sooo informative…Mike Winger was present & also the video Mike W. made about Benny was spot on & Costi praised him for it! Benny is getting old but David Diga Hernandez is coming up as another Benny…the exact same propaganda !!

[@theouterplanet]

Dr Brown is like the guy who invites a known serial killer for dinner and brags to him about all the books he has written about crime

[@steveguti6452]

Update urgent emergency please join me in prayer for friend Terry he is a survivor of Hodgkin's lymphoma he is living in rehab for back problems he is improving he got to go home Monday he is very thankful to God and the power of prayers he desperately needs your continued prayers for full recovery please pray for him God bless you all

[@lauraliviola7028]

❤Prayers in Jesus name!!🙏🙏🙏👍💙💙💙🥰

[@robynmarler1951]

Amen 🌄

[@arielflyer6113]

GOD’s will be done…in the name of JESUS CHRIST, AMEN!!!

[@ElainePsalm91]

Adding Terry to my prayers🤍🕊️

[@mikehowell2936]

I lift you both up in prayer and ask that His will be done.

[@larrysergent5478]

Brown reminds me of a phrase not used anymore....pious fraud

[@reformedpresbyterianpulpit6745]

Amen

[@markolinux8206]

I'm sure if there's a Doctor Brown Study Bible, there would be a map of his travels in the back, in the maps section.

[@kristenyurek4490]

😂

[@kotzting]

Would his trips to heaven be cataloged there as well?

[@robine1018]

I like what Paulette said, “let’s let this speak for itself” The boasting was appalling. We absolutely have nothing to boast about, except Christ.

[@kimlayzell2280]

Excellent! It's great that you're pointing out all this dreadful heresy. People like Michael Brown, Sid Roth, Kenneth Copeland etc make me so mad! And Michael Brown is really quite condescending, and it's tough to look at him with that smug grin on his face...

[@matthewmattson7584]

But how are the “discernment bloggers” wrong? Please Dr.Brown explain because I really want to know!

[@Orquet-qj2nf]

"It's hyper-criticism and they're condemning people to hell!! D:

[@jackiwheeler6963]

A NEW HIT THE BAR?.....????? I'm in heaven 😂😂😂 seriously this is one of my favorite shows right now. And welcome, David!

[@johnpeters9777]

Campus is a Charismatic buzz word for 'see how big we are'.

[@kristenyurek4490]

Shout out from your Phoenix campus 😊! So happy to see you again, Paulette. Press the button is my fave...see that nod to David. 😂 If I were Michael Brown I'd be shaking in my boots...course he's so holy he probably wears Jesus sandals. I wonder if he reads Proverbs 6:16? Great HTB as always. Love y'all, praying for you. Love the cat at the end. Miss Ginger, Kiko, and the snacks....the good ones!

[@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch]

Thanks so much, Kristen!!

[@ianclarke4018]

Watching this reminded me of Paul’s writing in Philippians 3 : 4-7. “….If anyone thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I have more so: circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ “. What a contrast from what we saw in the video. This was a real eye opener for me. Thank you for sharing this and may God bless you all.

[@Pickled73]

I never understood why everybody bought Dr. Brown as a clear minded theologian. He seemed like a schill. also I love to see how you have the guest sitting 3 feet lower than you guys. It keeps everybody in their proper place L O L.

[@indigatorveritatis7343]

I am as critical of him as anyone, but his theological defense of the Trinity is actually excellent. It's strange that someone who can understand and teach some facets of theology so clearly can be so wacky

[@frizzyrascal1493]

@@indigatorveritatis7343That’s the thing with false teachers, they got some things right, but other things are horribly wrong and not biblically sound.

[@Window4503]

@@frizzyrascal1493Like Origen. Smart guy who was almost a prodigy, influenced sermon writing, beloved by past and present Christians…but brought in damaging heresies. For some reason he’s still framed positively and like a genius just because he wrote a lot. Some things never change.

[@kayjaybee616]

I truly wonder if Dr. Brown considered his “friendly” response to his critics a Pauline appeal, as in 2 Corinthians. The most glaring difference is that Paul’s concern was protecting the flock from the false apostles preying on them, not excusing himself from his responsibility…to protect the flock from the false apostles preying on them. Truly the height of irony. Also, love the gang being back together. Thanks for all you do!

[@seanH1768]

It’s called a conflict of interest here in UK. 1:27:58 the false gospel of Michael Brown.

[@scottdwyer4776]

Michael Brown has been in league with the charismatic movement for many years and even his school is in line with Morningstar Ministries, that's why he defends all those ministries, he's not a Berean, he's like their own personal public propaganda advocate agent

[@SunnySideup-ks7ot]

Yuk! Maybe he became a knight with Rick Joyner. 🤔

[@user-fj1sw5hf5v]

I clicked "like" before watching because I know the quality of your work. I'll get to this later tonight when I'm the last one standing in my household. 😉

[@jackiwheeler6963]

I do that all the time!!

[@karencrawley7377]

I do too😊

[@SaltyBibleCracker]

Basalt CO campus tuning in! Excellent, as always. David’s low middle seat cracks me up! 😂c

[@ryanbeaver6080]

Thank you for sharing this video and great work! I appreciate you brother’s and sister. Glad I’m not alone in seeing this, the apostle of obfuscation. I’d love to see a commentary video on “Long for Truth”’s video on the Brownsville revival. I think that may be where we begin to see Dr Brown becoming the man he is today. God bless 🙏

[@mac5924]

Steve can you talk more on YWAM please

[@frizzyrascal1493]

Oh yes, please. There a few videos (anecdotal) on here that are absolutely disturbing to hear.

[@kristenyurek4490]

Yes! A dear friend's daughter is going into training next month. I pointed out their issues with untrained youth in leadership and how their requirement to be transparent during training has resulted in severe trauma, PTSD, and accusations of suicide caused by that. The website is disturbing in that the founder frequently mentions visions from the Lord, and uses language like the Lord told me....etc. His revelations are akin to scripture in the eyes of the YWAM organization. I need to do some more digging, but, it seems to be focused on "powerful" worship and feelings, not on Biblical training. Thoughts?

[@markwood1668]

Strange Fire conference criticized charismatics just not directly naming names!

[@Savedbygrace22]

Just watched the Cultish program with Costi Hinn and Mike Winger talking about Benny Hinn from an inside view and an outside view. HIGHLY RECOMMEND WATCHING

[@kerriferguson2023]

Pride!

[@booglywoogly566]

​@@kerriferguson2023 what's this have to do with pride?

[@kerriferguson2023]

@@booglywoogly566 You don't see pride in Michael's Brown's, Benny Hinn's or any other of these false prophet's behaviour and words?

[@booglywoogly566]

@@kerriferguson2023 really?? You don't think it's prideful to puff yourself up and falsely claim to be a prophet or healer?

[@kerriferguson2023]

@@booglywoogly566 You have totally misunderstood my comment - perhaps my fault for not being clearer. Did you not see the question mark at the end of my sentence. OF COURSE It's prideful to puff themselves up and make false claims of prophecy and healing. That was my point exactly!

[@eviem264]

Brown's video gave me flashbacks to Rick Warren's SBC conference speech last year.. Seriously, thank you for making this video! I've been waiting for someone to expose his arrogance, hypocrisy, and his debating tricks. It's infuriating to watch him set people up after playing nice and calling them brother, and then smile snuggly when he thinks he won.

[@PandySearl]

God wins! Brown doesn't seem to know who this is about.

[@daystardanes]

Hey guys, watched this just now!!! KEEP IT UP!!!! I have many friends that love him and quote him and read his stuff. With going to a Messianic congregation, he can hold people's attention because he's Jewish. This video finally gave me understanding of why he doesn't speak out!!!! HE WORKS FOR THEM AND GETS A PAYCHECK!!!! Thanks you all... Love you guys... keep exposing the lies, alot of us are right there with you.

[@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch]

Thanks so much!!

[@annagaiser5186]

How can anyone pat themselves on the back so vigorously without dislocating a shoulder?

[@kristenyurek4490]

@@annagaiser5186 😆 right?!

[@philipchaisson]

Dr. Brown is a bit confused about the difference between quality and quantity

[@bobpaul4572]

That was an Excellent Video! So Spot on regarding Brown! David Lovi is a Real Man of God! Gonna check his Channel out!

[@jobrown8146]

Thank you. This was very helpful. Sometimes you don't notice when it's only once or twice but when it is shown like you have done in this video, you can see more easily that there are major continuing issues.

[@ingemojonsall3402]

Thanks for a really good episode. I grow up in pentacost in Sweden, and no it was not as bad as in US, from what I´ve seen. We ended up in WoF 1982, still not as bad as US, from what I´ve seen. We got out of it 1998, I 3 years before and my husband after me, bt we left officially 1998. Today I am one of those warning about false teachers, prophets and movements, more or less full time. I still believe in the gifts, although not anywhere near the Charismatics. I couldn´t even watch more than a few minutes of the roundtable, realized I didn´t have the same grace as Justin Peters, and Tim Osman (hope last name was right). Brown I don´t get at all.

[@kenid4144]

Your comment is encouraging. God bless you.

[@aussiedadreviews]

Hiya K's it's Phill from No!Apologies here. Love your work soooooooo much #partnersisthefaith

[@williewiner4161]

So JMac showed how we deal with men within non-charismatic groups- when ABegg gave bad advice about attending a “g” wedding, JMac removed him as a speaker at the Shepherds conference. But DrBrown i find is arrogant and lies and is condescending and gleeful in his nasty comments. I can’t stand him. My spouse is Jewish And I would never have encouraged him to listen to this guy. Thanks for sharing this video with us. Love you Steve and Paulette and David.

[@MrRomanweb]

I've been saying this for some time now. Dr. Brown DOES have a responsibility (despite the busy schedule he likes to talk about) to call out falsehoods in the body of Christ! If he has the platform, the spotlight, the followers, and the media at his disposal, you had better believe he needs to ALSO utilize them to protect the flock from falsehoods...even if it's from his "good friends." And he knows the passages that would command all believers to do so!

[@PandySearl]

Cares more for false teacher's feelings than he does God's Word!!! 😖😪

[@apressbutton]

Didn't William Branham , whom a lot of the Sid's mates adore have some connections to h i t l e r? Will he use equal weights and measures with them?

[@kristenyurek4490]

@@apressbutton Yes, he did. He had an underground compound in Chile where Nazis were allowed to continue their horrendous experiments on children. The US government even subsidized it and stored weapons there to overthrow the government in Chile. It's absolutely sickening how so many charismatics praise Branham. Sin and perversion always accompany false teachers.

[@paulwilson1424]

First things first. Thank you both, + Dave. The reason people actually have time to "bash" chairsmatics is because it doesn't take much time to find one that needs it, and it doesn't take much time to prove them false. However I'm sure that it is painful for you to sit through that whole video. Was really glad for another "Hit the Bar".

[@aaronstibeljr2584]

Steve: hey Michael why don't you call out and reject false teachers like benny hinn. Michael brown: look, you see on this book I wrote in 1983 on page 123 under the footnote. I have said something that might be interpreted as calling out false prophets. So I have done my part

[@reformedpresbyterianpulpit6745]

😂

[@davidjarvie9546]

Great to see you guys looking good and full of the spirit, lets go a mocking .together.thanks Steve and Paulette...and the guest in the lowly chair. 🇬🇧🙏🙏🙏

[@jasontrombley5948]

Luther going off the rails with wild ignorant comments in no way diminishes the Protestant reformation. That’s like saying Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes and Proverbs lose all authority and wisdom because Solomon went off the rails before he died.

[@reimannsum9077]

Brown is also just blatantly lying and knows it perfectly well. Luthor: "Preachers are the greatest murderers because they admonish the ruler to do his duty and punish the guilty. I, Martin Luther, slew all the peasants in the uprising, for I ordered that they be put to death; all their blood is on my neck. But I refer it all to our Lord God, who commanded me to speak as I did. The devil and the ungodly kill, but they have no right to. Accordingly priests and official persons must be distinguished well, so that we may see that magistrates can condemn by law and can put to death by virtue of their office. Today, by the grace of God, they have learned this well. Now they abuse their power against the gospel, but they won’t get fat from it." Contextually, Luther is referring back to his former statements, when he "[spoke] as he did," made in "Against the Murderous, Thieving Hordes of Peasants" - which, by the by, was published only after the suppression of the peasant revolt had already begun - wherein he advises the German Princes that they have the God-ordained right as magistrates to wield the sword in defense of the nation, the good, and the innocent and to punish evil, such as pillaging and murder. The "command" to which he refers, then, is the general command of God related to the role and duties of civil authorities found in the scriptures, which he exposits in his letters to the princes, rather than any kind of dream vision or audible voice that delivered special, personal revelation to him. He also distinguishes first between the godly civil magistrates, who have the right within the context of political and judicial office to take the lives of the guilty, and the godless, who take that to which they have no right: innocent life. In parallel or "[a]ccordingly," "priests and official persons [magistrates/princes]" must likewise be distinguished. The priest advises the godly ruler on the dictates of God's commands as revealed through scripture and nature, and does not himself have the right to wield the sword, whereas the magistrate or prince, both of whom are "official persons," do. Lastly, even in this somewhat uncertain quotation - we have a note taken by a student, and, trust me, I well know how often they can err in that process - Luther closes by observing that the Magistrates have learned that they "can condemn by law and can put to death by virtue of their office;" however, he likewise condemns them because they have now "abused their power" to such a degree that they have "[gone] against the gospel" by exceeding God's prescription for the just use of governmental authority: "But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer" (Rev. 13.4). Rather than rightly executing the responsibilities of their office as established in Romans, they have ignored their duties as magistrates and rulers through abuse, and will suffer the consequences for doing so, not "[getting] fat [reaping rewards] for [that injustice]." That, of course, comports quite well with his earlier pleas for mercy towards those peasants who were not guilty of capital crimes, or who, through threat of violence, were pressed into service or support of those who fomented the peasant revolt: Therefore, dear lords, here is a place where you can release, rescue, help. Have mercy on these poor people [whom the peasants have compelled to join them]. Stab, smite, slay, whoever can. If you die in doing it, well for you! A more blessed death can never be yours, for you die obeying the divine Word and commandment in Romans XIII, and in loving service of your neighbor, whom you are rescuing from the bonds of hell and of the devil. And so I beg everyone who can to flee from the peasants as from the devil himself; those who do not flee, I pray that God will enlighten and convert. So, as we can see, a great deal of argumentative context is missing, and a clear misinterpretation involved, if we take Luther's claim that he was a "murderer" at face value. Again, Luther was known for being terribly bombastic, particularly in an informal setting, and there is a simple falsehood presented as Luther never claimed personal revelation and direct command from God through it, for instance. Interestingly, most of the sources that have engaged with this quotation excise it from its context and appear to be polemical and biased Papist critiques of the satanic Luther who was inspired by demons and entered into schism with the "one True Church."

[@jasontrombley5948]

@@reimannsum9077 Absolutely, I agree! And to add another side note…whenever God uses a man to accomplish his purpose and we later see a flaw in that man it’s as if God revealed it to us to show that only Christ is perfect and worthy of praise and honor. All the Godly people in scripture had their human failings revealed to affirm that we all need a sinless lamb to stand in our place in the judgment.

[@jasontrombley5948]

@@reimannsum9077 Brown either knows Sid Roth is a heretic or he’s deceived himself into thinking he’s not. Both options are frighteningly cringe.

[@indigatorveritatis7343]

Brown is appealing to an ad hom fallacy called "poisoning the well". He's attacking the credibility of Jim & Justin by accusing them of validating/justifying Luther and thus his antisemitism. Brown is basically reasoning that their criticism of Roth thus bears no merit. Unless you study philosophy or debate a lot, it's tough to see these informal fallacies, though you might feel like some trick is being played.

[@patimalatima9]

I suppose if you are a trained debater you do these things. But Justin and his pal are just trying to talk and be brothers. We should all GET REAL.

[@Window4503]

@@patimalatima9Thing is, it’s unavoidable. In any disagreement, debate skills and noticing fallacies will apply just like basic chemistry still applies even though you’re just making box Mac and cheese. The point of a good debate and discussion is finding common ground and understanding each other using the truth and without manipulation. That’s what debate skills do. They’re what clear the way FOR real honest discussion by calling out and avoiding underhanded language.

[@indigatorveritatis7343]

@@patimalatima9 The problem is Justin and Jim went into it to discover/show the truth of the matter, Brown didn't. Unfortunate, but true. Once it's a debate then the person with the debating skills/tactics can run his opponent in circles. It takes a sophisticated understanding of logic to avoid and unravel your opponent's traps and false claims

[@patimalatima9]

@@indigatorveritatis7343 Well MB blocked me on twitter for asking valid questions. I got the sense he was proud. He's too old in the Lord to be playing wolf. I ponder whether people like him who are not truly following the Lord are saved. Surely if he was in the Word, humble, and obeying the Spirit he would want to stop the wolves. I'd give him a pass if he were a baby in the Lord, but with his time in the Lord he should know better. For that reason I would avoid him. I don't get people at times.

[@indigatorveritatis5298]

@@patimalatima9 I agree with you entirely. I no longer give him a pass, though I tried to for years. People like him are a major problem, and he is their chief. They will lie and deny any knowledge that will corner them, and then strangely attack your beliefs. Brown is not just protecting the wolves and charlatans, he is one of them. His role is to come across as fair and reasonable, which is why he is effective at confusing the true flock of God who just desire to seek Him and His truth.

[@OurSaviorLutheranChurchG-fz6rr]

What's that Dr. Brown said? "You don't have time?" That sounds like "a wee bit of the clover calling the grass green," Patrick.

[@dashlamb9318]

I don't care how many books Brown has written. He's still a joke.

[@lobsterbisque7567]

Indeed! I would not want to be him on the day of judgement. He's got a lot to be accountable for

[@1Whipperin]

Anytime they call themselves Doctor or Pastor or any title they are against Jesus who commanded against all titles amongst the brethren. Matthew 23: 8-13

[@dnoslen6124]

Sounds like Dr Obs is a Pharisee of Pharisee’s!

[@scottdwyer4776]

He's a crafty schyster

[@Window4503]

Just like Origen. The church has seen this kind of guy before and we haven’t learned.

[@scottdwyer4776]

Thank you for doing this video! I have noticed this about Michael Brown for years but I did not have the words to describe his tactic. Even when he debates rabbis, it's always the same, I never really know what he's saying except that he's adamant that he's right and the other person is wrong, and he somehow discredits his opponent. I do know that his father was a lawyer and I feel that Michael Brown uses crafty lawyer tactics in his theological discussions/debates, and always seems so condescending, remind me of that character in the Princess Bride, Vezzini

[@GLO-RY]

Greetings from the Ugandan campus 🇺🇬

[@jbuckley2515]

Allie Beth Stuckey wrote a book called Your Not Enough and that’s okay. Very good message. Jesus is the only one that’s enough.

[@greglogan7706]

Sticky is a disaster- Jesus is a prop she uses for $$$ Cf Roy's Report expose

[@nicolevance802]

Michael Brown looks like he is doing Michael Brown Satire 😂

[@scottdwyer4776]

😄

[@bonitagrindle8313]

Thank you. This was very enlightening. I believe I am better prepared to watch for the tricks and traps of false teachrers and those who protect them.

[@IBLV2DOU]

Hey! from Michigan, in the middle of the mitten. I missed the live show!! 😢. Anyway, so very happy to find it, looking forward to watching. Glad to see you’re both looking well and happy. Thank you for all the work you do. God Bless!!

[@michaeljguy]

Luther and Benny Hinn: We're talking about a guy (Luther) who had a lifetime of good ministry but said some bad things later in life, and another guy (Benny) who has never had a faithful ministry from the moment he stepped behind a pulpit. Brown has to throw Luther under the bus to keep his people protected, because it is the only argument he has.

[@jenkinsbrigade9862]

Chris at four o'clock and Steve at five, oh boy!!

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Exactly ! 😎

[@jackiwheeler6963]

Yay!!

[@Trishgrace1217]

It’s pride. His pride is blinding him.

[@derickrae]

Christ the Nations is in Dallas. I attended Southwestern Assemblies of God University in Waxahachie, Texas in the 1990s. Snack in the middle of the Brownsville Revival season. Dr Brown came as a guest speaker. His teenage son, who was an absolute sweetheart, wrote my name in Hebrew inside my Bible. We had one Charismatic professor who came from CFNI. She was an absolute basket case. I would think with his credentials, CFNI would be beneath him. I don't mean that sneakily either. He's an actual academic. CFNI is a joke academically. It's just odd.

[@thepottereden]

oh my lands this is such a sweet and hilarious intro. I havent been able to tune in for a while, but the music and the "shout out to all of our campuses all over the world" is like coming home and sitting in your dads favorite chair! I love it! ready to dig in! yall are some of my favorite people!

[@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch]

You are too kind! Thanks so much for watching and maybe join the chat for the latest Hit the Bar coming up later today. God bless!

[@thepottereden]

WOW! Thank you for replying! I actually had a bit to watch and saw the notification for the live and looked up the latest one i could watch! So funny how that happens. Keep up the great work!

[@Outrider74]

2 things, Steven and Co. 1.) Go to the "Ask the Pastor" KZbin Channel with Lutheran Pastor Joshua Sullivan and watch his video "Luther and the Jews." He gives a very proper and balanced understanding of Luther's points, and makes clear that Luther was Anti-Judaism, and NOT Anti-Semitic 2.) You are absolutely right: when Dr. Brown is dealing with "Church vs World" issues, he generally does a very good job. But his work in analysis Charismaticism/pentecostalism is completely abysmal.

[@kenid4144]

I have not read any of Luther's work, but from what I've heard people on both sides say, it seems to me that the man must have been anti-Judaism. Now, if one could argue that anti-Judaism of the 16th century is 💯 equivalent to antisemitism today, then I'll concede the point. As it is clearly evident that not all ethnic Jews subscribe to Judaism, it's difficult to pin Luther down as an anti-Semite. I stand to be corrected.

[@El.savedbyJesus]

Thank yall Steve, Paulette and David

[@Amanda.Marie40]

Press the button!! 🤣🤣🤣🚨🚨

[@atsipan]

David Lovi sitting that low reminds of Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English when his chair lowers all the way to the bottom 😂

[@lcollins4313]

Che Ahn recognized Dr Brown as a Worldwide Apostle & Prophet Influencer on his personal TV program . 🧐

[@michaelenelson1456]

Che Ahn is a member of the NAR or New Apostolic Reformation. They believe in restoring the office of apostle& many more ridiculous things!

[@michaelenelson1456]

There are no more apostles or prophets!

[@SunnySideup-ks7ot]

Well that tells us everything right there, in case anyone was still wondering if he is a fraud or not,

[@steveguti6452]

Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was Buried and he rose Again and he rose Again the third day praise God praying for everyone Everyday God bless you all....

[@LadyoftheBunnies]

✝️💟

[@josephsanchez4709]

I mean if Dr Michael Brown is going to say that Martin Luther is a false teacher, then why is Michael Brown even a Protestant ?

[@michaelmagee4318]

I heard Dr Michael Brown invented the wheel, basketball, NASA , math, but not in that order

[@joelunchbucket]

Dr. Brown seems to have plenty of time to review the videos of discernment ministries. Perhaps he could use that time to review the reported false prophets/teachers. 🤔

[@Sheep0417_]

Dr Brown argues and accuses like a lobbyist for wolves.

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

Edward's lesser known sermon: "Sinners in the Hands of a Smooth Jazz Christmas" . . Unfortunately its a fair representation of the greasy grace doctrines. 😅

[@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch]

Hahaha!!!

[@Dilley_G45]

Doc Obs gets the facts wrong. The Kristallnacht was in 1938. Way before death camps and death squads. Hitler surely didn't read much of Luther. Rather Nietzsche. Hitler's parents were Catholic, so that makes it even less likely he knew much about Luther, growing up in an area were most Christians were Catholic. Brown also conveniently forgets Hitler grew up in Austria where Luther was not considered a worthwhile Theologian. While jews were not persecuted in the Austrian empire, in the neighboring Russian empire there were quite a few pogroms and that's one reason so many left . "Doctor" Brown can add misinformation, history twisting and germanophobic and anti-Lutheran hate speech to his list of heresies and blasphemies

[@johnpeters9777]

Yes Dr. Brown missed his history classes. Hitler was in bed with the Catholics. He loved Nitchke and Wagner. Himmler was raised Catholic too. I never read anyone in Hitlers circles mention Luther. They never even mentioned the Bible. No respectful Christian can deny Luther's sin regarding the Jew. Luther was wrong but he was right on Catholicism. I was a Lutheran for 7 years and never worshiped Luther. I didn't know what Luther wrote about the Jew until many years later.

[@Dilley_G45]

@@johnpeters9777 no Lutheran worships Luther. And sadly you join the anti-Lutheran squad just as well. Religiously every Christian has to reject the Jewish position and especially the hateful Talmud. That's what Luther refers to. He never advocated genocide.

[@susanflight2626]

We should buy him a tiny violin.

[@valeriemckenna4590]

Looking forward to seeing this and you guys are awesome. Looking great David..

[@ronaldtentschert6876]

He does it all the time, Dr. Brown gets pretty aggressive also every time, in the video I saw with Chris Roseburg.

[@ccousins5611]

Luv this video. Thanks. Notice Brown said near the end that he spends a weekend prayer retreat every month to get his priorities right with God, and "He has me pretty busy (doing other things)" So, the clear reason he doesn't spend his time looking into Sid Roth and others is because God has given Brown different priorities. Hence, God is directing Brown to look away from the errors you identify.

[@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch]

Well said!!

[@trainer1634]

Brown is doing a "Jonah". Wonder what our faithful God has Brown "busy doing other things". From a young boy our Lord Jesus was always busy about his Father's business - Luke 2:49

[@Watchman_7]

41:12 I am very appalled to say the least, about what Dr Brown is doing here. This is a clear display of arrogance and belittling.

[@PandySearl]

Don't condemn him for the two things he excels in! 😂

[@brittanyparistx]

I’ve noticed that a lot of false teachers tend to preach about themselves and you can pretty much figure it out within the first five minutes of them talking

[@kerriferguson2023]

🎯

[@timothyremick9108]

IMO, Michael Brown is a wolf. His scholarship is eclipsed by his defense of numerous false prophets and teachers. His history with the Brownsville kundalini-fest speaks volumes of his beliefs and/or lack of discernment. He provides cover for almost every wolf out there. If he is truly concerned for the body of Christ, he would, like Paul, Peter, James and Jude, be warning the masses who are being deceived by the false teachers/prophets (wolves) among us. If he knows nothing about these wolves, then he shouldn't be defending them in any way. He appears to be judging them as righteous based upon their statements or relationship with him and not their fruit.

[@indigatorveritatis8891]

Well-said, brother. As a matter of prudence, I have over the years at least attempted to doubt my doubt of Brown. I am aware of his scholarship, especially on the Trinity, but there's no denying what he is anymore. He is a deceptive wolf who is able to con people, probably largely due to his grandpa-esque demeanor and approach. Seems clear that he knows those like us won't be convinced of his false theology. So I think his focus is on that demographic that is in between that somehow sense these charlatans are wrong, but can't necessarily put in precise theological terms as to why. Such people can be easy prey for him. There is little discernment in professing Christianity

[@pipnipipa7627mimmahappunchaol]

Amen thank you

[@TheLaughingLibrarianBookLife]

Michael Brown looks like he is peeking out behind a parapet hurling jabs at us from the safety of his paper fort.

[@steveguti6452]

Urgent emergency please join me in prayer for all those affected families children animals massive flooding state of emergency rapidan dam imminent failure in Minnesota dire life threatening Situations They Desperately Need your prayers please pray for them God bless you all...

[@lauraliviola7028]

❤Yes, prayers in Jesus Name!🙏🙏🙏💙❤💙❤👍👑

[@karencrawley7377]

Thank you for this revealing expose'! Michael B uses so many underhanded tactics to keep himself in control of the conversation and to NEVER address the issues. He: overtalks, interrupts, side tracks, minimizes, manipulates, obfuscates, diverts, avoids, generalizes, ad. Infinitum!! Despicable for any Christian, but especially for someone as educated as he is and who purports himself to be an educator. He reminds me of a fast talking salesmen who tries to "dazzle you with brilliance" but if that doesn't work, he "baffles you with bul--sht." Absolutely deplorable!

[@kattl8847]

I don't give a flip that Dr, Michael Brown is a doctor (not medical of course...a Ph,D) he's human and like just about all of us, he's prejudiced in his opiniins and skilled at arguing his point. I'd never follow him based on the company he keeps. I worked with Ph Ds, MDs, master levels...oh Lord, I think quite a few of them are wrapped up in book learning BUT, what about fishermen who carried the word forward. Where's their degrees. Just curious...btb, love your channel to pieces and you two...oh you three ❤❤❤ like you say "Read Your Bible"

[@LadyoftheBunnies]

On the Topic of Mike Winger: I completely agree with Steve. I personally am not subscribed to Mike anymore because he is defending Remnant Radio (who I think is just as bad a Sid Roth) and promoting them. But I'd happily subscribe again when/if he ever calls them out for false prophecy and false teaching.

[@skylarmccune9242]

On one of his recent “prayer weekends”, Dr Brown was heard praying the following: “Lord, I thank you that I am not as those dirty cessationists-unjust, unbelieving, and unaccomplished, or even like David Lovi. I’ve written stacks of books, reams of articles, I teach at multiple colleges, I travel all over the globe…”

[@Bambi12-764]

😂 you hit nail on the head!

[@preacherbill]

The books were written, the trips were done, the classes taught already. He has time now.

[@ElainePsalm91]

I honestly feel sorry for Dr. Brown’s wife😟 Living with a narcissistic deceiver who thinks he’s superior to EVERYONE. Lord, please open her eyes and his too

[@TheWarden-c1q]

Yeah Doc Obs was in the thick of Charismatic abuses when he was screaming "FIRE" on people at the Brownsville "revival"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jennesset1102]

I love the education on fallacy!!!!❤ Thank you.

[@roscleo]

I was so shocked that he said he wanted to be part of the round table discussion, but literally did no looking or watching anyone’s videos to prepare. He could have even watched Sid Roth, Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinns videos on the airplane, in the airport ect. It looks like he and Sam Storms purposely refuse to look at the false teachers so they can claim plausible deniability to the horrible lies and abuses. It’s completely unprofessional. You want to be a part of something you who brag about your research skills through the many books you have written did no research? The whole thing is insanity to me.

[@mmtas1995]

Thank you so much for this video. David Lovi really zeroed in on the pivotal question about Michael brown, either Brown 52:50 is the biggest con man or has the biggest blind spot of anyone. Given Brown’s theological training, knowledge and skill, likely the former.

[@geoffmaxwell7442]

With all the work he does how can he spend 120 days on the road and still be committed to being involved in doing his outreach at three different schools. This does not make sense.

[@PandySearl]

Neither does Brown! 😒

[@Ruby-wise]

Once upon a time….i liked and trusted M. Brown! Once….

[@theargonauts8490]

The works very hard linguistically half the time to obfuscate his language. And defends it with the remaining half of his time.

[@lindse8922]

The "I'm so much busier than you" argument is so ridiculous. MB has time to brag about all his accomplishments and insult his critics, so I would argue that he's not THAT busy.

[@cateclism316]

"Shameful....shameful!" Calling out those who refuse to call out the false teachers.

[@silvertip8k278]

😅the fact that Michael brown has anything to do with sid roth says it all.