What On Earth Is Going On At Manchester City?

[@SanFranFan30]

I hope this changes how football is run.

[@soundscape26]

Yes, with the prospect of Man Utd being acquired by Qatari investors your hopes might be off to a bad start.

[@chaardoMusic]

50+1 rule and salary limits should be implemented

[@calumbishop7082]

There already were government plans to introduce an 'independent football regulator', unfortunately due to the ongoing political chaos in the UK as well a financial crisis and nationwide strike action (the UK is not in a good way right now), football is understandably a low priority. Thankfully both major political parties in the UK both agree that a Football Regulator is necessary and it does seem inevitable that at some point later this year, an independent football regulator will be introduced.

[@finding_aether]

@@soundscape26 nah.. pretty sure the Qataris are more than happy to see the Emiratis suffer.

[@freecityzen1384]

@@soundscape26 THE RACISM OF IT ALL

[@djalland1]

There is a precedent for this case, albeit from 1919, when Leeds City were found guilty by the Football League of very similar charges to the ones levelled at Manchester City (although on a much smaller scale). Not only were they expelled from the league, but they were forcibly wound up as part of the punishment. Port Vale took their place in the league and Leeds United were formed to replace them in the city. I'm not sure winding up is within the Premier League's power, though. And obviously things have changed somewhat in the last 104 years.

[@1998Cebola]

could be interesting with a video about this

[@edrivett27]

Alfie we need you to talk about this. Pretty please with a cherry on top

[@StoutProper]

Why hasn’t ffp stopped cubs like bury from going under?

[@eido4889]

Interesting

[@finding_aether]

Send em to the shadow realm!

[@evonneo]

I feel in the short term of this current season this will have a MASSIVE effect on Man City with not getting either PL , CL or even getting the FA Cup.

[@chaardoMusic]

You mean Man Cheaty ?

[@kellijones6481]

@@chaardoMusicBa dum TSSS

[@chaardoMusic]

@@kellijones6481 go back to the Kitchen

[@john-adriancoker2789]

If found guilty, City should have to make the amount in revenue they've inflated or loss they've deflated & overspent over the 2009 - 18 year period back exclusively through player sales. Same way Barça had to part ways with it's players when found guilty of signing underage players.

[@AvatarN]

@@chaardoMusic Mancheater Shitty

[@giodhuha6771]

Manchester City to Vanarama League here we goooooooo

[@mikexstad1121]

All their cringe American fans would be like "I was there from the bottom"

[@divinest]

All these fans jealous of City's success esp. man utd fans, City is still innocent and can't wait for them to sue PL when they clear the case.

[@krozjr5009]

Yes, sure, they can do it at Old Trafford or the Emirates or Anfield; but can they do it on a cold Tuesday night in Maidenhead?

[@truebluesumo]

@@divinest found the yank

[@stealthiscool]

@@divinest corny

[@ej_77]

7 classic games every football fan should watch

[@Sayoreacts]

A brilliant concept

[@defrokospe3549]

Didn't know if this not very classic. But i recomended AC Milan vs Liverpool UCL Final 2005.

[@AlexPat998]

unironically, AEK vs Olympiakos in the 2009 greek cup final, the match ended 3-3 in regular time, 4-4 in extra time, and 14-15 (I think) on penalties

[@Phantasmen]

7:1.

[@Dj-gb1wp]

Argentina vs France 2022 Ac Milan vs Liverpool UCL final Real madrid vs Atletico 2014 Spain vs netherlands 2010 Arsenal vs tottenham(the henry slide) being biased Barca vs real madrid 2012 ucl Brazil wc final 1970

[@josiahchudleigh6801]

I was waiting for this. Alfies deep dives are always top and I know he's gonna do this story justice

[@hr9833]

when Alfie gives you a dose of "What on earth is going on" you have to pay attention

[@AddictToTheFall]

As a Manchester City fan, I never thought the club would end up in one of Alfie's 'What on Earth' videos! 😂

[@silentone6411]

thats sarcasm right? you guys only just weaseled out of the UEFA charge a couple of years ago , Juve of the prem

[@hellothere8807]

​​@@silentone6411as a Chelsea fan I glad we weren't given that title 🤣 (juve of the prem)

[@alec.mp4]

You know we really messed up when our club has a “what on earth” video made about them 😅

[@Jason-gq8fo]

@@silentone6411 we didn’t weasel out, most of it didn’t have enough evidence. Read the report

[@abiodun-b9]

@ Jason Yes it was a weasel out due to statue of limitation. Read the report. It took too long for UEFA to bring charges! I wonder why?

[@leandrocataldi5747]

I hope that this, and the Juve case, start mass investigations all over football to stop breaches in ffp and how football is working atm.

[@indexpictures]

PSG and Real Madrid just as corrupt as Juve and City

[@m4rkscott]

The trouble is that if a true thorough investigation was held across Europe's top 40 clubs they would probably all be found guilty and if so you would have to punish them equally which would be do nothing because they collectively hold the power

[@rmh032]

So the clubs who rose to prominence in the 90s with the Premier League can close themselves off? That's the thing with capitalists. They love it and want to sell you the dream until someone has more than them. Then it's suddenly 'unfair'.

[@Freestyle80]

Juve barely did anything, how are you even comparing the 2

[@waffle.supply]

I was waiting for this as soon as I heard the news, big respect Alfie

[@Ramandeep247]

Thank you for creating amazing content week in week out!

[@tobymendenhall2788]

Donate on his personal channel so it actually goes to Alfie I reckon!

[@Ramandeep247]

@@tobymendenhall2788 thank you for the suggestion, I will try it next time

[@buckethead133]

@@Ramandeep247 ask his bank details.

[@fbi578]

@@tobymendenhall2788 Alfie = HITC Sevens. He previously stated that he used to say "we" when referring to HITC Sevens to make it seem like there was a team, but it's just a solo project :)

[@jonasbaumgart4933]

@@fbi578 Yeah, he runs the Channel on his own but is employed by HITC. As far as I know concerned he does not have control over the finances of the channel.

[@FlamingWalrus317]

Keep up the great vids Alfie! They're so informative and well-researched!

[@jimmycburfield5997]

He is the best in this niche! We need voices like this. Wonderful stuff

[@MrsRhianne1996]

This is a Joke.🤣🤣

[@FlamingWalrus317]

@@MrsRhianne1996 The real joke is posting hate comments on youtube. Get a life.

[@jimmycburfield5997]

@@MrsRhianne1996 I like city; but I refuse to sell my soul for it. Seeing Mansour hugging the murderous tyrant and ally of Putin, Assad made me sick! Bollocks to modern football and it’s lack of integrity

[@jimmycburfield5997]

@@MrsRhianne1996 hugging evil tyrants is way beyond a joke! Hugging a man who sanctioned using poison gas and who’s regime locked up and killed children as a prelude to a disgusting civil war is by no means a laughing matter. Hugging a man who finds his only international ally is Putin is certainly far from comedy. Still who cares! Champions of England! We know what we are! Well I say….not in my name.

[@warichuser1]

I love how Duncan Watmore appeared when Alfie said "what's more" lol. In all seriousness, great breakdown of the situation.

[@karlfroberg520]

Eddie Howe - Anyhow Without Freddie Adu - Further ado (Ian) Wright + Right Alfies puns are the best 😂😂😂

[@Drunken_Master]

@@karlfroberg520 Indeed - Ndidi

[@lukasnikolic2923]

Ki-Jana Hoever - However

[@ivandankob7112]

Bayern in the meantime smiling and holding everyone’s beer, while they are running around looking for lawyers 😂 and drinking it

[@awaydaysfootball]

I love how you can explain things in a way that my pea brain can understand

[@h2ohydrox]

Ellis, you don't have anything approaching a pea brain. Both yourself and Alfie produce excellent and entertaining videos.

[@petesmart1983]

Basically man city have refused to follow fa rules and to even talk to them, and there massive evidence of corruption over a 10 year period

[@seandelap8587]

If Seria A is penalising Juventus it's only right that the EPL do the same to Man City because what's the difference between both situations

[@Dryice36]

It’s not the pl that’s the problem it’s uefa with juve they are getting investigated by both Italian authorities so they are getting penalized in italy

[@slayingroosters4355]

Chelsea? Psg? Newcastle?

[@WERTYUIO821]

The difference is that Juventus only broke one rule compared to Manchester City's 100... . Juventus' case is also more like actually tax fraud than actual fair play breaking. Meanwhile some would argue that Manchester City ducked up everything that moved financially.

[@shadibrahim1489]

@@slayingroosters4355 Chelsea are doing it legally so what are you gonna sue them for? The manner of their contracts can have a bad effect on their footballing side but that’s it. Newcastle aren’t spending stupid money. PSG should definitely be investigated though

[@WERTYUIO821]

@@slayingroosters4355 Chelsea in 2004 was before the rules(every club was breaking the rules back then if they were actually existent) were made and currently they don't break any rules, they are just destroying their own future. PSG basically controls French market(an excuse which made them extremely hard to find guilty) and Newcastle hasn't done anything bad *yet*. But I guess in that logic we should also let everyone free from any punishment just because there are a lot people out there going unpunished because no one has enough evidence against them?

[@Badboybarz]

That ndidi cameo though 😂

[@djn1856]

Not just man city accused. Many huge international companies involved in the club being accused of cooking the books on their behalf. The former Ceo of Etihad James Hogan testified in citys favour. If found to be untrue he would likely face criminal prosecution

[@Geokinkladze]

Criminal prosecution!! FFS this is an argument over fair values in a set of accounts.

[@djn1856]

@@Geokinkladze the CAS report literally says James Hogan would likely face criminal prosecution if the evidence he gave was found to be false

[@freecityzen1384]

THERE IS NOTHING CRIMINAL 🤡🤡🤡🤣

[@barryh.4220]

Certainly not a criminal investigation, but an interesting one nevertheless .... City will know the penalties that could be heading their way should they lose the case .... but if the premier leagues case collapses, and they are caught lying, they could also face huge reprocussions.

[@Geokinkladze]

@@djn1856 That was a submission by City as part of their defence. That it would require the collusion of Hogan, Pearce, Al Sayegh, Hausen and Douglas.

[@tonyhughes27]

The treble, that's what's going on at city

[@teem4800]

We love a 'What one earth is going on' vid Alife!!!

[@mattmidd177]

A follow up video once the verdict is reached would be great viewing Alfie.

[@Hilversumborn]

I expect this event will become a movie years from now on.

[@dvdv8197]

I look forward to Alfie's video in a couple of years: "The curious rise and fall of Manchester City." 😙🙃

[@divinest]

You mean the Rise and Fall of the Premier league 😅 They gonna get sued for defamation and false accusations when these case has been cleared

[@jimbob-robob]

Settling in for another classic Alfie Analysis and deep dive...🍿🍺

[@kieronparr3403]

Does anyone else try to work out what Alfie searched for to get random stock images

[@soundscape26]

Getty Images is great, you can find pretty much anything you want.

[@SimonChinook]

If players and managers are implicated in "rogue" payments and contracts, then they should be banned as well. They've helped break the law and cheated as well.

[@L1am21]

Players dont have such rules.

[@soundscape26]

The video we all knew was coming. Thanks Alfie.

[@JAREDPLY1]

With the UK economy is serious trouble I doubt city will get relegated, they will at worse get a huge fine and perhaps a 10 points deduction, essentially keeping them in European competition. Regarding the squad restructure that is easily doable in 3 transfer windows. They will be challenging for the league next season.

[@davidleahu6820]

I personally don't think City will get relegated. Mainly because of the financial implications with tv rights and sponsorships. But they will be severly punished in other ways. A big point deduction that will see them finishing mid-table at best. A huge fine and a restriction on their budget for the next seasons. Pep is going to go for sure in summer and they will need to offload some star players in order to comply with the limited funds. This, along with the further loses of revenue from CL participation and top 4 tv rights will make it even harder for a quick recovery. So the desirability of the club will further go down because of all this factors, the last few star players will eventually go as well leaving the club in a mediocre mid-table state battling for the 7th place at best. Yeah not too diferent from where they were before the takeover. But I must say in the long run it's not impossible for City to came back to glory through a normal path, it all depends on the executive team.

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Pretty much agreed here, with the proviso that what ever Man City manage to gain by the eventual sale of their superstars, minus any fines, of course, gives them the chance to go bargain hunting for potential wunderkinds, unconsidered lower league "Steady Eddie's", players with baggage (but, obviously, cured of said baggage), and the experienced old heads (these to be brought in on a 2 or 3 year contracts and to be told that is all they get, of course, there is no point to buy a 31 year old and to keep them past 34, unless they want to become a coach, or physio, or scout.)

[@Jason-gq8fo]

While I agree with a lot of what you’re saying don’t expect a result anytime soon. It will take years. So pep will be gone anyway by the time it is out

[@davidleahu6820]

That's why a said it really depends on the management team. And will definetly be a long time process.

[@cheddarUSA1]

Doesn't matter the damage is done already. What of the teams who got relegated from the PL over the last 10 years, what of those fans. The teams who missed out on CL, FA Cups, Titles. All those moments stolen by a bunch of blood money pricks who dont give a shit about football and just want to sports wash their human rights record

[@ThreeRunHomer]

Don’t be naive. They’ll pay a few bribes and be given a slap on the wrist. It’s just the way football works.

[@milesjcarter]

Was looking forward to your video on this when I heard the news

[@theFez_]

DUUUVAL , cool seeing my NFL team pop up in the content. Between sports gambling here in the U.S. and the rampant spending and rules breaking in sports around the world, I hope it all changes eventually. I believes businesses, coaches, and players should be able to make profits and become wealthy; but the cost seems too great to sportsmanship and competition.

[@kamilmolka6055]

Manchester City situation podcast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbNZH6CirmIb68

[@talknycfc719]

You lost that game to the Giants tho

[@u1rtc7t5f64t157856v8]

I really hope something actually happens this time... Will never forgive Guardiola his victory-lap after Man City bought his way out of the CAS-trial...

[@pavise6333]

I heard CAS can't be involved for this one

[@Rizla9691]

But they were cleared by CAS they had already been punished for the time barred offences they related to fine they payed at the same time as PSG. they werer told if they broke the rules again theyed be banned from the CL. the charges brought from the second were clear'd by CAS as insufficient evidence, no evidence or no case to answer so they were effectrively cleared. its all there on the CAS web site if you can be bothered to look.

[@nikolas8203]

if Man City lose a case they are guilty. If they win a case they paid the judges off. Idiot

[@u1rtc7t5f64t157856v8]

@@Rizla9691 dude... I know. But everyone knows how this came to be. City essentially picked 2 of three judges. McDougall worked for etihad airways and lived in Abu Dhabi for years and Botica Santos is a sleaze bag solving arbitration cases for oil companies against the state of East Timor. it was a kangaroo court. Look it up if you can be bothered.

[@u1rtc7t5f64t157856v8]

@@pavise6333 never said anything about that.

[@user-s1o3nr532]

I suspect the interesting here will be not _whether_ Manchester City manage to wriggle out of it, but _how_ they manage to wriggle out of it.

[@concernedcitizens4110]

If City was not committing all of these financial breaches and instead use a sustainable method to grow their team then there are several alternate scenarios that could have happened : 1. Haaland would be at Chelsea (and imagining him complement this huge squad filled with Boehly’s transfers is practically a dream team that could conquer the world) 2. Sir Alex and Mourinho could have at least won 2 more PL trophies for themselves 3. Pep would’ve never gone to the Premier League (well not to City I guess because we all know Pep only manages super teams. Building a team from the ground up is never his style)

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

"If City was not committing all of these financial breaches and instead use a sustainable method to grow their team then there are several alternate scenarios that could have happened " More importantly: 4. Their income could never have grown 7-fold in the space of 15 years. When at the same time the likes of Manchester United and Liverpool are only growing 2-3 times (annual turnover).

[@researchbasedfitness1993]

what are the 'sustainable means' you are referring to? part of the forgotten narrative here is that we are being *told* that Owner investment is not allowed in the Premier League - even though for 100+ years it was celebrated and encouraged in top level football. Man City have no debt and don't withdraw funds from the club as dividends for share holders. the alternative - teams like, Southampton, Brighton, PSV, Ajax etc who develop players, coaches and systems - get asset stripped by the established elite clubs like Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool and can never 'sustainably grow' beyond their level as they can not defend themselves from the elite clubs taking their best assets

[@dstewusa7054]

You forget that Klopp would have won 3 PL titles, not 1

[@collapsiblechair9112]

serious yet funny, a sign of quality content

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Been waiting for this

[@alanrobert3098]

I feel like this is setting up a 7 biggest scandals in football history ;)

[@afellownerd]

Day 5: 7 best premiere league players who never won PL player of the season

[@lostcoastnomad479]

Nick isn’t the only one with great research. Thank you for this coverage.

[@sporgiii]

Alfie, always love the vids, especially documentaries like this. Love your integration of geopolitics and football without going too overboard. Interested to see what happens with Man City

[@dubnubgtd8538]

Never expect anything from anyone, that way you won’t be disappointed. Let’s be honest they will pay a massive fine that will fund down the football pyramid to help lower league teams who are struggling financially. The Premier league don’t have the balls to relegate city. when they get away with it. It will ruin the prem in my eyes, saudi’s at Newcastle and boehly at Chelsea will just do what city have done and just pay a fine.

[@alienzenx]

How terrible that would be. Allowing bllionaires to invest in English football and other teams than Manchester Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal to win the league.

[@korle521]

This guy puts serious work in his videos 👍🏾 you watch his videos you end with knowing everything lol

[@researchbasedfitness1993]

Great video as ever Alfie - especially your conclusion: I think a big frustration for City supporters in the discourse/reporting since the charges is that this should be taken as some "A-ha! moment" whereas it doesn't change anything on either side (opposition: you bought success, City: owner investment is needed to catch up to the establishment) The supporters are City fans, not Ferran Soriano fans!

[@Macho_Fantastico]

The whole club is rotten to the core and as been for years now, sadly I have no faith in the authorities to take the proper action against them. The Premier League need to make an example out of this, or it will damage the image of the division around the world.

[@TheA8lee]

Don't be surprised if, four years down the line when this legal process is complete, those 100+ charges are whittled down to a dozen and they get a 20 point deduction, but little more.

[@calumbishop7082]

Do you know what the funny thing is. Even if they were to expel Man City from the Premier League, they could easily just come back up after one season in the Championship. Hell that's what happened with Fulham, that's what's happening with Burnley (who currently sit 1st in the Championship). There is also the Juventus example, a team that at one point was also disqualified from there top division and forcibly relegated, and within 6 seasons, they were Serie A champions again and then preceded to win 9 league titles IN A ROW. Forcibly relegating Juventus did nothing in the long run, and forcibly relegating Man City probably won't do much either.

[@williamcross210]

The Football League has to accept them for City to be in the Championship. They could end up in the Vanarama National League

[@petesmart1983]

City will collapse the owners won't stick around, the players won't, sponsers won't stay. Juventus was different because they still kept all there key players no players are loyal anymore

[@GreekHouseEffect]

the best type of videos from Alfie

[@jonwoodmass2849]

The game has been a joke for 20 years

[@petesmart1983]

Premiership is has killed football

[@bhutochakrabarti4173]

The creation of the premier league back in 1992 pretty much ensured that.

[@mdthelegend9882]

First Juventus and now Man City? I haven’t kept up to speed with football for a while but it’s insane how these big clubs are getting exposed for their shady practices.

[@unstoppableExodia]

I appreciate the explainer. Alfredo’s breakdowns of these complex football topics rarely miss. Unlike a certain channel that prides itself on outputting football content on s daily basis which would usually give a much shallower read on the situation. As for maan citeh, they’ll be fine. It’s fun to speculate about them being expelled from the premier league but realistically that’s not going to happen. They have too much money behind them to allow that. In football everyone has their price at the administrative level. City will bribe shamelessly like Qatar did to get the 2022 WC which was salvaged by the memorable final that settled the great GOAT debate decisively*. The premier league can fight citeh aggressively BUUUUT the premier league isn’t about to make an enemy of an organization that could be putting a lot of money in their pockets instead of draining it through legal battles. The Der Spiegle leaks are the problem for the league. They create a PR difficulty where to satisfy the public they have to make it look like they tried to enforce their own rules. But i have the utmost confidence in the premier league’s ability to work closely with maan Citeh to come up with a punitive measure that will convince the public that they took the matter very seriously but one that won’t hurt City in a way that’s particularly damaging. FFP wasn’t made to stop big clubs from spending money it was made to stop smaller clubs from spending money they don’t have when trying to get into European competitions. To me it always seemed obvious that a club like citeh could and would use such financial trickery to get around FFP. In fact come what may, i can imagine citeh would be very upset that a tabloid journalist got them in this much hot water and could be tempted to make exposing them into a more dangerous occupation to deter others from doing it in future. Powerful people and organizations don’t take kindly to having their power curtailed. Any individual doing so puts a pretty big target on their backs. *Puppet Ronnie would have to win the WC in four years time at the age of 41. His time in aretirement league would have to improve him

[@dstewusa7054]

This is the most intelligent assessment of the situation and likely outcome on here 👏👏

[@stevenmacdonald9619]

1) MCFC's dealings before FFP are irrelevant. If every time a 'law' was introduced, if there was retrospective justice, half the world would be in prison. It's very, very dodgy legal ground to be scraping through history looking for dirt. This is why the U.S has a statute of limitations. 2) UEFA cancelled FFP (under it's first guise) rather than face the Court of Arbitration of Sport, and the MCFC lawyers, due to the fact that the restrictive business rulings within FFP were, and are, illegal within the E.U. UEFA ran away from the court, only to reimpose those rules merely days later under FFP2 regulations. Thus swerving any judgement from the court, whilst still getting their own way. UEFA basically lost that case. 3) Blackrock is a parent company of many corporate interests. They are all linked. I am quite sure it wouldn't be news if MCFC were sponsored by a few of those interests, despite them all being traceable to Blackrock. 4) Jeff Bezos' Amazon grew profits by 90% during the pandemic, again there's no scandal there. 5) Don't you think it's odd that the two Arab owned clubs MCFC and PSG have never won the Champions League? I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Nothing fishy going on there. 6) Untraceable Chinese betting companies have been allowed to sponsor clubs until recently 7) The Premier League took money from BLM to make players take the knee for 2 years. 8) Manchester United are allowed to trade with £1 Billion in debt. 9) Chelsea simply take the p*ss, and the rest of the Premier League would rather take on MCFC off the pitch. They are allowed to rebuild with as much money as possible, amortisation is just as much a con upon the sport. They even had the UK Government's greasy little hands on them whilst they had no owner. 10) All aboard the Arab gravy train, for the greedy, greedy authorities trying to fleece MCFC for a payout. It happened for the World Cup, it is happening right now in the World Club Cup. These governing bodies lost billions from the pandemic, and they need to recoup their losses. This is a typical way they would do that. 11) The Mansour family are worth £3 TRILLION, so good luck having them over. They have the best lawyers in the world. They could buy the Premier League, UEFA and FIFA and change left over from, a couple of billion. 12) Keep it up, and we'll see a European Super League very soon. Be careful what you wish for. 13) It's classic that a German paper is the grounds for an English investigation. Nothing dodgy here. Bayern Munich have been advocates against MCFC since the take over.

[@woutervandermerwe7396]

Why can't Man City spend the money if they have it? I thought the original purpose of ffp rules was to stop clubs from going bankrupt and destroying themselves.

[@furq2m8]

It's to stop smaller teams from running themselves into the ground with debt trying to keep pace with the bigger teams, failing to do so, then going into administration. Not a good look for your league if teams keep going bankrupt.

[@Geokinkladze]

The stated purpose of FFP rules was to stop clubs from going bankrupt. But they were announced by Platini as a response to the Abu Dhabi takeover. Substance over form. Ironic eh?

[@nikolas8203]

@@furq2m8 that's the theoretical view. In reality it is designed to keep the top clubs at the top. It is designed to show the smaller clubs their place. It is designed to tell the smaller clubs "hey stop dreaming about winning things consistently, you can't spend money like the big boys, now give your best player up to the big boys so that you can balance the books, or else we will declare you as cheats"

[@alienzenx]

yeah, so many sour jealous fans wanting to beat Man City off the pitch becuase they broke the hegemony of the big three.

[@dstewusa7054]

It’s not that simple though is it ? If the allegations are true, how do you define “broke”?? You can’t circumvent the rules and claim victory and expect to be lauded - ask Lance Armstrong how they worked out for him? 😂

[@SamButler22]

When I was a kid, it was said that CITY stood for Conference In Two Years

[@BALHAM69]

a documentary on the afc Wimbledon on the nine promotions in eleven years, how they’re a fan own club and how they have a stadium in plough lane now. The story of they lost the club, how the F A allowed that and won’t allow that anymore. How they were very close to moving to ireland How they went up the English football leagues. It would be a good documentary video if you can do this. #thepeopleschannel

[@stewartfennell8926]

I remember there was talk of taking Wimbledon to Dublin a number of years ago

[@BALHAM69]

@@stewartfennell8926 it would be good if Alfie can do this We shall see

[@gamewithgreg]

Shows a pic of Ndidi when saying the word "indeed". That's exactly why I subscribe to this channel. 👏

[@dancarey7204]

I can't see any other way a team can make the leap to the top tier and sustain it. Can you do a video on the history of football in Birmingham, I understand it is (was?) UK's 2nd largest city.

[@GuyJames]

What are the odds the UK goverenment steps in with their own incredibly independent investigation which overrides the PL's, and somehow by coincidence manages to find them not guilty, thereby saving face for all concerned? The PL has it taken out of their hands, no embarrassment for Abu Dhabi or the UK govt., the matter has 'been dealt with', and all goes back to normal?

[@mancityfan45]

Well done for pointing out the geo political aspect I this. For this reason, we will get away with whatever. City fans, blues you know who ypu are ", remember we were there long before and if we live long after,, they are just looking after our club and so far its been beyond great ( beating the rags 6-1 can be never taken away from us ), we need to stay together more than ever before.

[@Mikejames1080]

Here bro! 💙

[@UncledadBFD]

I think the medium of KZbin can actually betray the seriousness and brilliance of Alfie’s journalism. My guy

[@ethanstrudwick9617]

Let's just add a little context here. City are the biggest team, in the biggest league, playing the most attractive football. From a neutral perspective, city is the team to watch. From a fanbase perspective, having already held the English attendance record for over 70 years, they have one of the biggest domestic fanbases in world football on top of a fast-growing international fanbase.

[@potjhm1]

MC is a tiny club with a tiny fanbase. FAC semi final vs LP at Wembley LP got 80k fans MC got 5k fans. Trophy parades in 2022 RM,Milan & LP attracted 600k+ fans. MC's trophy parade had appx 50k fans. MU & LP have 15 to 20yr season ticket waiting list. I can buy a season ticket today for MC.

[@ethanstrudwick9617]

@potjhm1 FAC, city have been a staple top flight english team since inception accumulating the 6th highest points, more than tottenham, Chelsea, Newcastle... If city have a small fan base than so does every other team in the premierleague as we held the attendance record for over 70 years. In 2011, 60'000 City fans turned up to see Vincent Kompany lift the Fa Cup trophy but only 12'000 United fans for their 19th league title. If city have no fans , neither do United.

[@dstewusa7054]

Bit of a silly conversation people. city are Not a tiny club, comments of their Emptihad and empty seats are overblown - they have a reasonable local and tracelpimg support and a loyal hardcore (remember in Division 2 they had 30000 plus!) What they don’t have is an established large global fanbase like Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal - so when they started publishing figures that they had larger revenues than the above clubs and Real Madrid, it seemed hard to believe

[@ethanstrudwick9617]

@dstewusa7054 you're right. They don't yet, but it's growing fast, especially in asai, where football has seen a huge rise in popularity. However, do you need a bigger fan base to bring in bigger numbers? No. More games, More competitive games and More attractive football = more views. Almost every game city have played in the last 5 years has been competing for a trophy, guess who's been watching city play? Liverpools fan base, uniteds fan base, now arsenal's fan base, big teams competing for the champs, because city's football dictates how they perform.

[@potjhm1]

Brentford Southampton & Fulham can get 30k plus fans. So!? MC's success is seen as plastic & oil state bought. New football fans simply refuse to want to associate with such fake manufactured success. Even Pep had to tell fans to turn up for games on a few occasions.

[@karabomodikoe3499]

Liked before watching because I've been waiting for this video

[@jamestrainor4293]

If City is guilty, they should be relegated the season after decision is made and have a 5-7 year transfer ban/cap at the very least. However stripping titles/player achievements would be a very poor decision. So many clubs could claim hypotheticals and what ifs (CL ties, relegated clubs, missing out on european football for that season etc.) That's just my thoughts

[@jasonrollins1385]

So what your saying is every other fanbase, club and team players should get nothing because man city cheated and it would be alot of work to fix things because of their cheating?

[@jamestrainor4293]

@@jasonrollins1385 the point is it wouldn't be straight forward as just handing the league and domestic cups to runners up for those years. A major thing is the players also probably had no knowledge of what's happening behind the scenes. As I said earlier, relegate them, impose a transfer ban/transfer cap for at least 7 years, undergo audits of their finances several times each year, fine them a large sum. I never said teams should get nothing, potentially financial compensation is an option as well

[@jasonrollins1385]

@@jamestrainor4293 of course it wouldn't be and thats why its even more of an issue because its kinda impossible to know who deserves what exactly as teams could have preformed differently/have different players. The point is if its a soft touch then its doesn't matter. The reason I say it should be taken away is because having a trophy is still a celebration of an achievement that was unfairly gained. Tbh I don't mind them keeping the titles as everything they've won has a massive asterisk next to it.

[@jasonrollins1385]

@@jamestrainor4293 also to think that they would over pay managers but not players would be rather naive on our part. I will wait and see but I'm sure we will see some others where also overpaid just like Mancini.

[@suryansdash5830]

@@jasonrollins1385 stripping the titles would be unfair on the players cuz they worked extremely hard for those and though man city cheated, the players didn't. An asterisk would be fine ig.

[@sportsdictionary590]

Great work Alfie

[@andrew_l1900]

And they’ve now won the treble and looking more and more likely to get slap on the wrist 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Uniontwat]

rarely comment on videos but what a well put together video, really enjoyed this and found this great! thought about a job at Sky Sports? haha

[@kabelomasia6191]

Nice touch indeed with ndidi.

[@MrSkippingpig]

They'll get a token fine and maybe a brief transfer embargo. The notion that any sanctions of consequence will result is pure fantasy. 'Top' clubs always end up getting away with sort of financial BS in the end.

[@josephtreacy667]

Agreed. If this was Palace, Bournemouth or Fulham for example it would be totally different. I aint holding my breath that they are going to get a severe punishment.

[@happytree8387]

I know this was more of a serious video, but I chuckled at that nice little edit with the Hoever jersey at 15:11 when you said However

[@Kamau1865]

What's going on? Two words: financial doping. Next up Chelsea and Paris At Germain.

[@paulcrossley9812]

Numpty how can chelsea be sold by the government with bent books grow up er er er what about chelsea er er

[@carltonleboss]

Love your documentaries.

[@ej_77]

7 best playmakers in football history

[@Raptorman0909]

I wonder what role this legal case has had on City's performance of late. I mean, with all the lawyers involved they had to know this day was coming and if that was filtered down to the players, and how would they not find out, there could easily be a depressing effect on the team that manifests with reduced performance. It's not like City have fallen of the table, they are still #2 Afterall, and a couple games difference could see them even or ahead of Arsenal. So, if the legal issues are effecting the on-pitch performance then we should expect them to flounder even more through the end of the season possibly resulting in them falling out of the top 3. Last season the top 3 were City, Liverpool and Chelsea and this season might see none of them in the top 3 at seasons end.

[@billpugh58]

Oh come on, city have spent a billion on players, they have bought the league win just like Bayern does!

[@AugustusLevi]

Strip those titles off City!!

[@e_eyster]

I still think the punishment ends up being enough of a point deduction to make sure they dont qualify for any European competition next year, and a fine in the high seven figures.

[@Jerseff]

wait this is totally why they sold zinchenko and jesus, to help balance their books more legitimately lmao thanks city for helping us win the title :))) (or at least get the opportunity to bottle it)

[@Jason-gq8fo]

No that’s not how it works, this is about fudging numbers not net spend

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

The fans who talk about player sales to "balance the books" have got an awful lot to learn about accounting in football...

[@Jerseff]

found the salty city fans i see ;P

[@tdurb0]

I’m glad they’re making it impossible for a club to disappear completely, like Bury, and almost followed by my team, Derby. Yes we bent the rules and yes we deserved the punishment, but no club, NO CLUB, should be allowed to die. And as a Derby fan, that even includes Forest and Leeds. Except MK Dons, who stole a club and I wish them continuous relegations forever, or just go bust.

[@arzhi_azis]

Day 391: Indonesia XI If All Eligible Players Had Declared For Them.

[@hi-rr2vm]

Keep dreaming bocah

[@unwound9343]

Best video on the subject on youtube.

[@kamilmolka6055]

Manchester City situation podcast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbNZH6CirmIb68

[@RyuzakiTaiyou]

Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 457) I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.

[@kellijones6481]

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[@ethandalton6480]

Timo Werner

[@user-xx6nf5tv4h]

Lehman

[@timcorcoran9786]

Based on their efforts solely in the premier league or overall ? I’m thinking of Bastian Schweinsteiger, clearly one of the the best German midfielders ever but didn’t really do a lot with Man United, would he be considered for this or not?

[@raykewin3608]

Fine work.

[@HKGYHCheng]

I hope they get relegated with their oil money

[@ShadowElectricity]

I always find it baffling how people bring up Chelsea when PSG and Man City get caught abusing the rules because Chelsea isnt owned by a country and doesn't lie about their sponsorship figures.

[@chaardoMusic]

Whole League is cheat

[@Elratonn]

I mean… Chelsea was owned by a Russian oligarch until 6 months ago… aha

[@rohannalawade3227]

We dont know that yet. Chelsea is and was owned of ppl who can buy a small country. If FFP rules were as stringent as in spain a whole lot of English teams would be in trouble.

[@r3zaful]

@@rohannalawade3227 "Spain" Ah yes, la liga and favoritism to Barcelona and real. They are as crooked as Chelsea and man City.

[@rohannalawade3227]

@@r3zaful I suggest you read news instead of drawing lazy conclusions. Barcelona have been in a financial disaster but the context of it is that the restrictions put on them by la liga's rules are stricter than those in most other leagues. They could only spend 1/4 of revenue on salaries and transfers for a while. Infact la liga changed rules this year so that financial levers cannot be used in transfer market. Which directly affects Barcelona. Gavi could not be registered as a first team player. Real too have sued la liga president because they were not allowed to vote on Ig the TV rights deal. The war between la liga president and especially Laporta is public. So i would say there's no favouritism. Not in the past few years atleast.

[@madseason8]

They should be stripped of their honours and relegated to bottom of football pyramid

[@MrJoromekiq1]

Premier League times finally figured out how to deal with City's dominance. If you can't beat them on the pitch, throw them out of the league

[@kamilmolka6055]

Manchester City situation podcast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbNZH6CirmIb68

[@AI-di7ll]

This could be key in the way the world of football is controlled going forward, if they're found guilty, it can't just be another case of them getting a slap on the wrist and at most a small points deduction. What they're accused of is brazen fraud that's clearly affected the integrity of the competition.

[@kamilmolka6055]

Manchester City situation podcast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbNZH6CirmIb68

[@petesmart1983]

It difficult cause look the psg owner who was found guilty of bribing FIFA numerous times during the Qatar world cup bid, also fines numerous times by the French fa but never payed a thing cause of bribes etc. The fa will most likely be bribed and won't charge them, but the slight possibility they do it probably stop billionare Arab investment in the prem as they do what they want in reality

[@ronanfitzpatrick1261]

Great video btw 👍

[@ezraezra2928]

While everyone still wants Manchester City to be relegated, the news relating to the ESL relaunch by new company was unleashed. I believe Barcelona, Real Madrid, and Juventus could face the same debacle as Manchester City.

[@domfletcher5305]

Good article(s), look forward to hearing from you in the future!

[@jthakurdin]

Excellent work. Excellent analysis. 👍

[@vanrok]

Alfie my man! always delivering, thanks! I hope PL make out an example out of Man City, but then again this will show if the system is corrupt or not since it will go to gouverment level no doubt.

[@divinest]

All these people jealous of City's success that they are already condemning city over these ridiculous accusations

[@biscuitapocalypse5883]

Love your videos, content and commentary - can you tell where this is going? Please do something about your narration. Content and enunciation is great - it's just the High/Low, Pitch/Enunciation change from first few words of a sentence to the end of sentence. If I didn't love the content I wouldn't bother commenting.

[@jasperlawrence5361]

well written and presented, thanks

[@michaelward5370]

Idea for top 7 list: teams that won top 5 leagues, (Serie A, la Liga, etc), by spending the least amount of money!

[@eamonreidy9534]

Over the last 20 or so years, Montpellier, Leicester, Atletico, Wolfsburg, Lille, Valencia and Stuttgart would be my guess

[@michaelward5370]

@@eamonreidy9534, Leicester and Montpellier were the first 2 teams that came to mind when I thought of the idea!!

[@Alexander711]

@@eamonreidy9534 Valencia is nog a low spending club😅

[@mikexstad1121]

I'm pessimistic. They'll get a 15 point deduction, maybe lose a tittle, then we'll just move on as before. There won't be any fundamental changes

[@ccc5949]

We are innocent

[@mikexstad1121]

@@ccc5949 how so? The club has no fans relative to its revenues 😂

[@neilburns8869]

I really can't see City being stripped of their trophies or silverware but possibilities range from Transfer Embargo, Points Deduction, Huge Fines etc. At this point in time it's believed that most other Premier League clubs want City to be relegated.

[@Kfitz6]

Alfie’s coming out swinging at the big fish in the world of football and I am here for it! Keep calling them out 🙌🏻

[@neillioen]

Top video, as always.

[@therealuncleowen2588]

City should be expelled from the Premier League and forced to restart at the bottom of the pyramid.

[@phillipnoetzel7637]

It’s all Mark Hughes fault.

[@Plymonk666]

Alfie, your ‘Everyman’ explaining of all these things being great. Can you do a longer than ever before explanation and supporting alleged evidence? Please?