What On Earth Is Going On At Juventus?

Juventus are the biggest, richest, and most successful club in Italian football, yet they’re currently 10th in Serie A, having just been deducted 15 points by the FIGC - Italy’s Football Federation.
It’s the latest in a series of setbacks for Juventus and Serie A, and it comes less than 17 years after the club was relegated to Serie B in the aftermath of the Calciopoli scandal.
So in this documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look at the current crisis at Juventus, how we got to this point, and why this can’t possibly be the end of it all.

[@TGFLdn24]

As a person that was a fan of Italian league football many many years ago, this was very depressing. Such a shame that the whole association is being held back by fossils and cons.

[@jameswg13]

At least serie B is competitive and fun to watch

[@gman5991]

@@jameswg13 o

[@bowlofcinder482]

@@jameswg13 serie A is competitive bro

[@andreachiarolini1073]

@@jameswg13 Serie C is even better lol

[@Captainmidnight09]

Ya but its not as if the premier league is run by better characters

[@steverd4923]

The first Italian club to ever build and own its own stadium wasn't Juventus but Reggiana in 1995 (Juventus came second many years later, so this still shows how big of an achievement that was for Juventus). Unfortunately, Reggiana went bankrupt a few years after building its stadium in a very Italian fashion. Reggiana's stadium was then bought by Sassuolo's owner company Mapei (hence, that's why it's now called Mapei Stadium) in 2013 at a bankruptcy auction, so it went back to being one of the very few privately owned stadiums in Italy.

[@forzajuve4845]

yes and the ole Italian style of sapping mike piazza's money as much as possible, started by Sassuolo making reggiana rent their previously owned stadium at exorbitant rates

[@steverd4923]

@@forzajuve4845 the Mike Piazza days, pure Italian football shithousery hahaha... Well, unfortunately, there's no other option for Reggiana than paying rent to Sassuolo. Still, Sassuolo didn't buy it from Reggiana after all. They bought it from the Municipality, so Reggiana has no leverage. And the old Mirabello is far from eligible even for Serie C standards (and they are very low standards...)

[@forzajuve4845]

@@steverd4923 the municipalities and the mayor/dinosaurs are the problem.. they all have their hands out and won’t allow progress . The system is counterproductive

[@forzajuve4845]

@@steverd4923 have you heard that press conference with Nike piazza ? I have it ..crazy press conference ..very tense

[@yannick245]

But why did Juve built such a small stadium?

[@perfectsoundforever3775]

It's a shame because Serie A has actually been improving a lot in recent seasons. The league has become one of the most exciting and competitive to watch in Europe, with the style of play moving from a very defensive style to a fast counter attacking style, Serie A outscored the Prem in the last 3 seasons. I think the improvement of the Milan clubs, Napoli & Atalanta through smart scouting has also been important in ending Juventus' hegemony over league. Whilst Juventus crashed out of the Champions League, it's important to note that 3 Italian teams are in the Champions League knockouts this season with very favourable draws, it wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility to see one of them in Semis. Also i'm a bit unsure if Napoli will be picked apart, they're a far bigger club than Lille & Monaco, it's why Koulibaly took about 6 seasons to actually move, Kvara and Osimhen would probably command fees in excess of a £100 million too.

[@power279]

I hope Napoli and Milan will go further.. especially Milan with their European pedigree

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Maybe Italian teams defence is much weaker thus they can score more goals

[@meganico98]

@@power279 If Milan play how they're playing right now against Spurs, they'll get battered, but if they get Theo, Leao and Giroud in their best conditions they can 100% give them a run for their money. Inter are surprisingly strong in single matches so I think they'll beat Porto over two legs, though I don't know how far they can go. I think Napoli are the most well-prepared to do a deep run in UCL out of the three remaining Serie A teams, perhaps we could do something like Ajax in 2018/19 or Villarreal last season.

[@BigPurp9]

Honestly it’s been the most entertaining league for the past 4/5 years

[@A_r78]

Farmers league

[@psykkomancz]

When I am interested in something happening in the world of football, HITC Sevens videos are the best way to learn about it. No one on YT provides such detailed and informative research on football topics as Alfie does.

[@Shteno]

Just shows how much you really know about football, since you get the most news from a kid like this, instead of actually following what's going on! = Classic Zombie Fan!

[@jeckzz_]

@@Shteno just appreciate a good content creator jesus christ

[@Shteno]

@@jeckzz_ I never said he's a bad content creator, on the contrary, the lad has one of the most thoroughly informative channels. But the thing is, he's young, only watches things from an English perspective, therefore, he doesn't have the capability to be truly objective. For example, the boy's 110% right in saying that given the fact just how competition Serie A has become, it has many teams that can beat one another at any time (they are dubbed "7 Sisters" - Milan, Lazio, Inter, Roma, Juventus, Napoli, and in the last 7,8 years, Atalanta, used to be Fiorentina, but...), unlike LaLiga for example, that has always been a league of 2 & half clubs, plus, the fact that since 2015, the football style in Italy has changed for 180 degrees, which is why we're watching se of the most entertaining offensive football, with lots of goals in all of Europe (with exceptions like Mourinho'a Roma, or Allegri's Juve, who are everything but), Italian state pushes the teams down and down, jnatead of help them capitalize on this. They're killing them with the idiotic. laws that ban them from. owning stadiums and building new ones, when there are mkney ready to get in the. ery second the authorities allow it, etc, etc... So, I'm not saying the boy doesn't know what he's talking about, or makes unreasonable clips, just that, for any real football fan, getting your basic u fo only from a kid like him, it's totally silly. There are numerous websites, KZbin channels, where you can get much clearer and real picture than by just listening to a boy who does his best to be good, but still, he only does it from. his home in England, and hasn't got. an idea what it's truly like in the other place.

[@psykkomancz]

@@Shteno Troll alert beep beep.

[@soundscape26]

@@Shteno He's not that old, but calling kid and boy to a 26 y.o. is kinda weird.

[@guilhermebraganca4622]

An idea for a video. 1/4 of 2023 Brazilian Série A clubs are now owned by private groups instead of being traditional association clubs. The pros and cons of this shift, which is new for Brazilian football (I.e my club, Vasco da Gama, is currently in its 1st season being owned by American private 777 Partners and in this month alone spent over $15 million in new signings, over 10x more than the entire last ten years)

[@MjolnirMarks]

Legitimately interested

[@TheRadPlayer]

Weren't there talks about the big Brazilian clubs forming a break-away league, too?

[@AmazinJ89]

This would be an interesting video

[@edinan9]

@@TheRadPlayer Yes, it's happening, but there's still a lot of burocratic stuff to solve until it happens

[@guilhermebraganca4622]

@TheRadPlayer yes, but there are currently 2 projects, Libra (18 clubs in favor - 11 from Serie A) and LFF (26 clubs - 9 from A). The problem is in how the budget would be distributed Libra's project would split 40% of the total budget equally between each team in each division, then 30% based on performance and 30% on media results (tv audience, social media and attendance). LFF has the same 3 budget divisions, but 45%/30%/25%, to avoid big clubs to get most of the commercial/media money

[@mrb6094]

They've just had a 10 point deduction, and yesterday lost 4-1 to Empoli.

[@ellemarr7234]

Woke up at 4 am in the US to see a new Alfie upload. Instantly clicked. Your work is miles above the rest of football KZbin 👏🏽

[@soundscape26]

That's dedication. 😄

[@ellemarr7234]

@@soundscape26 my insomnia isn’t a quitter 😂

[@davidpalin1790]

The money in football is insane and unsustainable. If people don't think that , then they are in for a massive surprise 🙄 😒

[@celtic69]

The bubbles going to burst and the super league will be born, all too obvious

[@FuncleB]

@@celtic69 I'd despise that Super League. Hope it never happens.

[@stevencooke6451]

I cannot believe the valuations and the contracts can keep rising. Or, they will have to start finding new revenue streams, but even that cannot be inexhaustible.

[@davidpalin1790]

Exactly. Well said 👏

[@Al-ji4gd]

@@FuncleB We already have a Super League, it's called the Premier League. They have all the money and best players, so what difference does it make?

[@gokulmanohar5677]

To paraphrase pro wrestler Paul Heyman here - Juventus are too big to be small, but too small to be big. As a juve fan, this is an excellent video documenting the plight of serie a in general and the cat and mouse game of clubs chasing premier league giants, a game which they are loosing.

[@troyannells4642]

Juventus had an obsession with winning the champions league which is why the club is in the state it's in now.

[@dontmindme6995]

@@troyannells4642 partially. Eventhough Juventus has been quite desparate to win the champions league, I still would think that the interest to keep up with the top of europe, financially, was the number one concern and reason as to why they spent so much money and made all this shady business. As a german, Borussia Dortmund's transfer strategy is a very fitting example for me as to how far the PL has risen above any other league in terms of money. Since the value for german players doesn't seem to inflate all that much and frankly brilliant players moving to teams for ridiculously small fees compared to PL fees, the strategy to sign english youngsters hoping for them to improve quick enough to later sell them specifically to the PL for a load of cash seems like the only way to survive in the current state of football. Especially with the new and even richer owners in the PL, the only way for clubs from other top leagues to further compete at the top of the game is to do business with the PL to get a slice of the bigger english cake compared with the small domestic cake (if that makes sense)

[@jordanmince7613]

didn't expect a paul heymann quote 😅

[@MrCavanmoran]

Very impressed with the depth of research and clarity of delivery, keep it up!

[@jeremyforbes5244]

this is the start of the superleague. not nessecarily with the british clubs, but i cant see la liga/serie a giants not trying a merger of some sort over the next 10 years with the richest clubs from each league also alfie makes a good point that the stadium infrastructure in italy is so freaking bad. its crazy that there has not been more investment

[@escape2nirvana]

Problem is most clubs don’t even own their stadiums. They can’t fix them without approve of local government

[@Rossoneri2]

There's been investment, the problem is the governments won't allow the teams to build their own stadiums because they make money from renting the stadiums to the teams

[@Micfri300]

I doubt it very much. A lot of Italian people support a big club and their local team and a super league would destroy their local club and the economy of that town because Juventus milan and inter won't play their best eleven in the domestic league.

[@meganico98]

The clubs do want to fix their stadiums, but the problem is they don't even own them and the local councils ask for the moon for them to be fixed or purchased. As an example, Fiorentina did seek to rebuild the Franchi to make it more modern, but Italian bureaucracy (basically the real world version of Vogon bureaucracy) thwarted these plans. I am a Napoli supporter, and even we have had issues with the city council over improving our incredibly outdated stadium.

[@jeremyforbes5244]

@@escape2nirvana we have the best stadiums in the world here in the United States and virtually every NFL stadium is at least partially owned/paid for by the local or state governments. there just isnt a willingness to do that in italy it seems

[@maze1914]

Always a good day when a new HTC Stevens video pops up on my feed!!!!

[@calixtepictet]

On the probability of Napoli’s squad being picked apart at the end of the season: While it’s obviously possible, it’s something that has been predicted every year for at least a decade at this point, and barring a few untimely departures in the first half of the last decade it never came close to happening. Because of how most of the bigger (and similar) Italian teams are run, people expect Napoli to always be close to insolvency, but the truth is that it’s a surprisingly well run club when it comes to the financial side of things.

[@AshleySmith19912]

Very good point. It seemed like for the past 5 or so years, there was always talk about Koulibaly making a move to another big club in Europe, and it’s only now just recently happened when he’s already on the decline.

[@e-money9251]

Aurelio di laurentiis has always been a penny pincher, but a good kind of penny pincher because of the great scouting department that the club possesses

[@gurururuwarararara8164]

Longevity over short-term success, clever club

[@jordancrichlow2429]

Great video as always Alfie 🔥🔥🔥

[@alfonsocascone6148]

Good job Alfie, you get my badge of honour for being the first major foreign youtuber to pronounce Calciopoli the correct way (as far as I'm aware of)

[@BrianStorm742]

I always get confused; is it Calci-OPoli or Calcio-POLI?

[@alfonsocascone6148]

@@BrianStorm742 -poli is a suffix used for scandals, calcio is the italian word for football. I suggest writing it on google translate (setting italian as the language) and listening to how the automatic voice says it (that is a valid way to learn all pronounciations, really)

[@MasonGreenWeed]

@@BrianStorm742 I think it's pronounced Ka(a like u in under)l-cho-poe-lee

[@BrianStorm742]

@@alfonsocascone6148 I know how to say Calcio and I know how to say poli. But Alfie stresses the o in Calcio instead of the cal, which according to you is correct but not according to how the two words are stressed separately.

[@aldobonaso3481]

he is saying it better than any foreign pundit or KZbinr I've seen so far. Not perfect, but he's stressing the correct syllable at least. Good job Alfie

[@johnpannebaker5757]

Roma won the inaugural Conference League, making them the most recent Italian continental winner. Overall, superb video as always!

[@gspvideo5543]

These are some of my favourite videos on KZbin ❤

[@jasonjones3638]

Excellent video mate. I had NO idea what was going on there.

[@craighadden4095]

Unbelievable the level of detail in these videos👏👏

[@johnwhittaker311]

I still want to see one of these for Wigan. Since we went into administration it’s been a long rollercoaster of some very low lows, and some high highs, some very questionable decisions from the top including a manager sacked after just 9 games in charge. Genuinely never a dull day at Wigan, I’m shocked Netflix haven’t offered us our own show yet

[@noahh799]

Nobody cares about Wigan

[@bestrafung2754]

I remember Wigan being in the Premier League and knocking my team (Manchester City) out of the FA Cup several times, including beating us in the final back in 2013. I was gutted then (it was on my 12th birthday too!) but now I have to applaud them lol. I honestly respect Wigan and hope you guys can bounce back again and become more stable. It's always horrible to see clubs struggle financially due to bad owners.

[@natangweiitula]

Thank You Alfie. Been looking for a piece on juve for weeks ❤❤you’re the best

[@mendozerosu3041]

Never knew Arrivabene moved from F1 to Juventus, very interesting!

[@nichhodge8503]

Good video Alfie even though it pains me to hear all this information (not been a good few last years for us fans after such success in the 2010’s). My dad did say to me did you hear Juventus had been docked 14points the other day (which I hadn’t at that point) and he said here wanna read to which I said “No!” 😢😭😭😭

[@flex_96]

7:54 I think you can consider the pictured Stadio Friuli/Dacia Arena and also Atalanta's Gewiss Stadium as the newest stadiums in the league. Of course having just 3 new stadiums it's still unacceptable for a league like Serie A, but things are moving forward a little

[@soundscape26]

Yeah, thought the same when I say the Friuli. 3/4's of the stadium were totally rebuilt.

[@jasoncavari]

Hey brother love the video! If u ever want any help with Italian pronunciations or anything like that I wud love to help… Keep up the great work!

[@peterbob7316]

24:51 João Cancelo from Manchester City to FC Bayern Munich after falling out and the news about Man City FFP breach. Now it makes even more sense after watching this video.

[@ObjectManiacJennifer27]

Nearly had a heart attack when Arrivabene came up

[@jt-hb8lh]

For real.As a non football fun and a Motorsport enthusiast i was shocked.

[@leemcdonald1342]

Video idea: 7 football kits that are "untouchable."

[@Toxic-Ology]

1:00 Love the way you have to explain these things because of the people who are ignorant that think they’re smart having a habit of asking rhetorical questions like “how can something be complicated and simple at the same time”. They probably don’t deserve it explaining because they’re usually too ignorant to think any differently after you’ve explained it. But we are where we are, especially it seems in Britain.

[@BALHAM69]

a documentary on the afc Wimbledon on the nine promotions in eleven years, how they’re a fan own club and how they have a stadium in plough lane now. The story of they lost the club, how the F A allowed that and won’t allow that anymore. How they were very close to moving to ireland How they went up the English football leagues. It would be a good documentary video if you can do this. #thepeopleschannel

[@bautistachasseing7164]

You should do a video about the Argentininian League. It has lots of interesting stuff, both nowadays and years ago, but it's going through tough times

[@niallfoody97]

Give us a taste of the insanity.(please provide an example.)

[@Liam.2000]

Great videos but I must say that the voice you put on when you read does my head in.

[@meganico98]

34:16 Your concerns might be entirely justified about our squad getting picked apart this summer, but you underestimate how skilled Aurelio de Laurentiis is at keeping his best players for a long time. Other than that, this was a very comprehensive rundown about the situation at Juventus. Obviously, as a rival supporter I am enjoying their downfall a lot - especially due to the sting of the Higuain deal and the 2017/18 season where we finished second with 91 points to Juve's 95, and I was at the stadium for our 5-1 blowout of them a couple weeks ago, but I am also concerned that this crisis could further set back Italian football as a whole behind the other leagues if the Italian FA doesn't take action and further publicize the league - which is something they are actually attempting to do somewhat, they've recently opened a base of operations in the USA and are allegedly in talks with JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs for billion-dollar investments into the league itself.

[@maciejbala477]

I don't think it will be as bad as with Lille, I feel like they will maybe lose a star player or two for substantial fees, but that's probably about it. Napoli are a bigger club than Lille. I also certainly hope they won't lose their momentum because they have played the best football in Europe this season and won my heart as a neutral. :)

[@juviegar3403]

enjoy the league's downfall. without Juve you all are nothing.

[@francescotrombetta8548]

@@juviegar3403 says a guy who doesn't want to believe Juve were part of all the major italian football scandals happened throughout these years

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

The plight of Serie A especially Juventus in in general is interesting to observe. Most stadium in the Serie A bar Juventus and Atalanta are owned by municipalities or city council so expanding it or modernize it is up to the City council to decide. Yes Serie A is lot more competitive in the last 3 years but it can't compete with the Premier League in terms of marketing, advertising and financial revenue and 2, bar Juventus and Roma(albeit Roma won the inaugural Conference League) no other Serie A clubs has ever reached an European club final since Inter won the Champions League title in 2010. Post Calciopoli scandal has brought Italian football to its knees and it will take years to recover from it.

[@bijlsmathebismarck640]

Also Inter arrived to the final of the Europa League in 2019/2020

[@ashleyburns6752]

Just when Serie A looked to be improving, Juve drag them down again.

[@suviluer]

Juve, didn't you watch the video. And again?! If you didn't know, the inflating players thing is something that Inter started in italy, and has done since like 2011. And other countries have done extensively, but yeah, juve right.... I mean the football judge that gave the 15pt punishment is openly a Juve hater and Milan or inter diehard, his wife celebrated and mocked Juve on insta the day Juve was docked 15pts, but Juve right.... In 2006, and fact check me, the Italian federation demoted Juve but Lazio, ac Milan and others were involved, but Juve right? And years later when an actual justice department prosecutor investigated calciopoli, it turns out that none of the clubs were actually guilty of wrong doing, and the evidence showed that Inter Milan was the only one that deserved punishment, coincidentally Inter is the only club that WASNT punished. But FIGC didn't care anymore. Again fact check me, please! It's all true. But Juve right!?!?

[@danielpeters2675]

Had a strong feeling this video was coming as soon as the board disappeared 👍

[@uselessDM]

Let's be real, it all started to go downhill when they introduced their new badge. Think about it.

[@arsenalman30]

at 25:14 you were talking about spinnazola while you showed a picture of gianluca Manchini

[@BrianStorm742]

5:28 technically Roma won the Conference League last year but I get what you mean.

[@HITCSevens]

More of European tiara than a European crown.

[@BrianStorm742]

@@HITCSevens yeah, exactly. Or a very fancy bowler hat.

[@abinmathew7574]

It did not have much competition though . It was either them or PSV or Spurs....

[@BrianStorm742]

@@abinmathew7574 well, or Feyenoord or Marseille or Leicester

[@r3zaful]

@@abinmathew7574 it was leicester spurs or psv. Roma didn't even meet a full power leicester city back then, it was injury plagued, crippled leicester city.

[@dariuszdudka1991]

Hey Alfie, I need you to make a video about the recent CONCACAF-CONMEBOL deal that allows teams from two parts of the Americas to compete with each other. Some said it is potentially the beginning of the upcoming merger of North and South America in football.

[@edinan9]

I think you kind of missunderstood it. It's just a small tournament between the champions of the Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana (the equivalents to the Champions league and Europa league in south America), against the two best teams in north america, which i THINK will be the both finalists of the concacaf Champions league, since they don't have a Europa league equivalent.

[@randomnerd2332]

I'm from the US & I'm personally excited about the deal. Imo the best way to grow the national team would be challenge ourselves against the SA teams as all we do is just face Mexico every year. In terms of domestic leagues besides Concacaf champions league we also got leagues cup which will start this or next year for us which features every MLS & Liga MX team.

[@edinan9]

@@randomnerd2332 oh, i didn't know about that new cup, that's cool. We face the same problems as you guys do over here in south america. Recently brazillian clubs have outgrown the clubs from other countries massively, so pretty much every year we see brazillian teams winning the Libertadores. Last season a mid table team from our league reached the final and lost to Flamengo... Both continents will benefit from this, for sure

[@FlamingBasketballClub]

There were rumors that CONMEBOL was in negotiations with CONCACAF which could result in MLS and Liga MX clubs would participate in the Copa Libertadores and Sudamerica. However, Liga MX clubs have previously participated in these competitions prior to 2016.

[@randomnerd2332]

@@edinan9 I'm not that familiar with South American football but here in the states it is sorta of a question for ourselves of why isn't the Brazilian league bigger & more popular (besides the fact that it isn't in Europe ofc). It seems like u guys have the potential to be probably the 7th biggest league but yet haven't fully reached that. I am familiar with the fact that libertadores is usually dominated by a Brazilian team or either Boca Juniors or River Plate every year& that probably due to how little funding the rest of SA has. I would say although SA clubs are not as well known in the States as European ones (outside of probably Flamengo & Santos), there is still a significant amount of respect towards the Brazilian league due to the sheer amount of talent u guys produce.

[@johanbotha7462]

Hey Alfie, here's a videos idea on the house: the smallest points gaps between champions and the wooden spoon in top flight league football.

[@Hubris030]

Do you get less adrevenue if I set you on 1.5x?

[@PWR_Jesper88Ros]

Juventus about to become Piemonte Calcio full term

[@ismailahamidoloko707]

Good 👍 video and well done

[@samhills6555]

I have a video idea for you: best player to ever play for x amount of clubs So totti could be the best player to ever play for one club and messi for 2 clubs etc

[@raymond9001]

Video idea:Ranking cr7 all seasons in career

[@balocodes807]

Indeed -> Ndidi. Good one 😂😭

[@alanwylie7207]

Hey there everyone, so does anybody know where you can stream teams like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and PSG in English in America? Did they have any broadcasts? And which one has the largest American following? I appreciate it. I am blind, so the only way I can really follow them is in English.

[@IzzyDaBoiWonda]

you forgot to leave link my friend lol

[@antonioloza5762]

I'm just here for the long intro.

[@nichhodge8503]

Being English I do support Liverpool and Liverpool were my first love but Juventus are my true love and have been since 93

[@lalitthapa101]

It is the history of the Serie A

[@nathanb286]

Is it possible for Serie A to go just a few decades without some scandal

[@stevencooke6451]

Doesn't seem so. Corruption seems endemic to Serie A.

[@PissG]

Impossible. Italian football reeks of "it's not cheating if you don't get caught" attitude, so no doubt they will keep trying to be sneaky to achieve what they want.

[@jakestatefarm2470]

Every football league is shady serie a just gets caught

[@CanguroNinja]

Is always Juventus tho

[@theklevio1699]

What happened to Melbourne Victory?

[@FuncleB]

Very sad an ex-player and legend like Nedved can be lead down the path of greed and corruption, what an insult to Juventus fans.

[@stephentyas4698]

Paul Pogba sold for £800,000 from Man utd and then bought back for £89,000,000.Crazy!

[@jedaye47]

100x profit, insane

[@stephentyas4698]

@@jedaye47 or 100% loss for Man Utd.

[@dubnubgtd8538]

When man united signed pogba back. He didn’t bother because he had a multi year, multi million pound contract and thought he walk into success. He was poison in the team. Thank god we got rid. He’s yet to play for juventus and missed a World Cup half a season in whilst “injured” but his Instagram shows him skiing and snowboarding in the alps. 😂😂😂 absolute poison

[@stephentyas4698]

@@dubnubgtd8538 I suppose the owners tied the debt to the club.

[@CJCsport]

How about 7 footballers signed off of incredible international tournaments? Such as El-Hadji Diouf at Liverpool or James Rodriguez at Real Madrid

[@yusufkassim8236]

16:55-16:56 did my guy just say skrting 😂😂💀

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

As a kid I used to watch Serie A on a Sunday morning, 'goal Lazio' will be stuck in my head until the day I die. It's sad to see how the Italian league has dropped in prominence.

[@paulschipper9428]

One thing which confuses many who followed this issue closely and which has angered Juventus fans for apparently being singled out for plusvalenze, (increased capital gains), is that unlike all other Italian clubs (bar Lazio), Juventus is a PLC and a such has to operate within more stringent financial rules. The argument that what Juventus did is done by all other clubs, (the "it takes two to tango" argument), is true, but the other clubs aren't PLC and that is why they get away with essentially the same practice. When two other clubs swap players, they can come with their value, which can be dreamed up so to speak. Juventus did that, but according to stock exchange rules, that is not allowed.

[@gurururuwarararara8164]

Alfie please make that afc Wimbledon doc that guy in the comments keep asking for 🙏🙏

[@DC-jf8pl]

Série a is my favourite league. I think the old stadiums are much better than the new soulless new ones. San siro should never be destroyed

[@shaun7389]

I'm surprised the Seria higher ups haven't blamed English football yet. They seem to have a hard on for our wealth.

[@avilaomar10]

Serie A shoots themselves in the foot just to see the best in italy lose, it hurts itself, imagine barca losing 15 points mid season, with all tge financial issues that happend a few years ago but in italy we do it to our selvs

[@michelangelobuonarroti4958]

There's another accusation too: On the swap deals there's an accusation that Juventus cooperated primarily with Sassuolo to let them buy players to "bunker" in a sense and to then let them be aqcuired by juve at later dates for favourable rates, essentially transfer fixing. Also ties into the whole swap deal thing.

[@Seth_rs]

Financial fairplay only applies outside of petrodollar clubs and premier league too

[@uzziel0149]

Went to see Milan at the San Siro and it could use some remodeling😵‍💫

[@depekthegreat359]

Juventus are one of my favourite respective Italian clubs daily and ever in this world and other planets but the management of the club totally ruined the hierarchy for the second time,with the first being the scandal which rocked the nation at that time,good friends!!!Now,they have been docked fifteen points to be moved from the top four to the mid table due to another scandal at the club's transfer dealings by the management where they must take account from this debacle and sell Juventus to a potential buyer who cares more for the club than destroying the history of the club as soon as possible to save the club and Italian football in general,good friends!!!LONG LIVES RESPECTIVELY,JUVENTUS AND ITALIAN FOOTBALL!!!🇮🇹

[@skm5974]

Doesnt beat my request for a "What is going on at Arsenal" but definitely a good shout. Keep up the good work, Alfie👏👍

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Uhh nothing wrong at arsenal,, if anything they are among the best preforming club this year.

[@skm5974]

@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 exactly. And as an Arsenal fan, I want to get Alfie's insight as well as his flattery for my team atm😂😂

[@alr68]

If we win the league I wouldn't be surprised if we got an "The rise and fall and rise again of Arsenal" themed video from Alfie

[@skm5974]

He wouldnt dare!!!😮

[@matthewmaayen1088]

Could you talk about la liga rules

[@omrajput9115]

now i also suspect the ferran torres deal from man city to barca as who in their right mind would pay 55 mil euros for him

[@danielkarmy4893]

I well remember the rhyme we used to sing as children in the playground: 'love and marriage, almost the entirety of Italy and rampant corruption, go together like a horse and carr---' what do you mean, it didn't go like that? Maybe we just had the more accurate version...

[@jackbridge5780]

I know inflation changes things but that juve bought their stadium for what some players are valued at is ridiculous

[@TomBerishaj]

Italy's economy is a shambles. Too regulated in some aspects, which makes building new stadia almost impossible, and not regulated enough in other aspects, like the high level of corruption and kickbacks required to get anything done.

[@nleak92]

Looks like Alfie might be making one of these for man city soon

[@arzhi_azis]

Day 385: Indonesia XI If All Eligible Players Had Declared For Them.

[@hi-rr2vm]

Keep dreaming bocah

[@ThreeRunHomer]

Juventus needs to pay better bribes, like Chelsea and Man City. Rules only apply to clubs that don’t bribe.

[@TIAdor-um8gc]

There was no reason for Juve to buy CR7. Every person of critical thinking saw this coming. Why else will Perez let him go? Madrid knew there was nothing else that can be salvaged from Ronaldo.

[@soundscape26]

Juventus wanted to have a shot at winning Champions basically. From Ronaldo's perspective he wanted to win more titles in another country and so he did: 2 Serie A titles, 1 Italian Cup and 2 Italian supercups.

[@BirthOfAnEmceeTV]

@@soundscape26 All he won at Juve now has a black mark next to them *Titles

[@bundesautobahn7]

Transfer deals? Weren't they docked 15 points officially for cooking the books?

[@alfonsocascone6148]

Welcome to Italy, the land of the corrupt. A company with seemingly infinite money had taken hostage italian football for almost a decade, until they essentially shot themselves. TV deals make watching all serie a matches too expensive for the lower income fans, cutting them out of "the people's game" and forcing them to watch pirated streams (poorly, because italy's internet web is terrible in any city that is not a major one). Racism runs rampage, and it's almost completely unpunished. Refereeing is inconsistent at best, and suspect at worse. Lower league teams fight for every centesimo to survive, with the threat of bankruptcy (i think i've butchered that word, sorry), and with serie b and c full of phoenix clubs. If you're from abroad and you support juventus, please look past the on pitch results. It's the bane of italian football, it's supported by a ridiculous amount of racists (and takes no action to stop them), and allegedly gifts tickets to mafiosi.

[@robertheron7017]

I love seeing juventus in turmoil cause they are like the Bayern Munich of Italy,must say though that serie a has been much more interesting the past couple of years with a different team has won the title the past 3 years and look's like it will be 4 with Napoli on a tear this year so on that front serie a is much more competitive that is for sure.

[@jeronjoseph5691]

doesnt mean that the league has more quality

[@TiimoTiimo]

Napoli getting thier players bought maybe, but not picked apart. They will 100% get insane fees for oshimen and kvratskhelia, more than enough to bring in more gems for fractions of the cost, and keep the club ticking for a long time. It's just sensible football manager tactics :D

[@1908fcim]

Lol at showing a pic of Felipe Melo when mentioning 2010

[@SwordOfS]

Juventus got the 15 points back and they sit 2nd in Seie A. But it's not over yet. They may end up in 2nd division....

[@giorgiofarrauto3040]

If there are no laws against it then why are juve being punished when they just found a loop in the system, surely whoever put these laws out must say that they made a mistake and they it will be fixed

[@PissG]

someone doesn't understand accounting and think with their arse instead of their brain

[@jakestatefarm2470]

Exactly

[@gamewithgreg]

And yesterday they lost at home to Monza, which means Juve are now 13th in the table (with Monza being 2 places above them)

[@adrian-vasilebud4444]

Fabulous news.

[@atticusshadowmore3263]

Yeah so quick story. I am an American trying to get into world football, and had a hard time connecting with any premier league teams, so then I thought "oh my ancestors came from a place within Turin, I should support one of those teams" I had two options... this shit is making Torino look rather nice right now.

[@Hilversumborn]

Next, what on earth is happening at Ajax?

[@duyanhng8430]

They had a bad coach and sold most of their good players

[@MrM4DD0gg]

Corruption levels in football are now so brazen it happens in plain sight. Game has gone and has been gone for at least a decade.

[@Robotnik]

Did Elkann become the chosen heir due to to his smallhat touch ?

[@pavise6333]

Juventus needs Mattia Binotto's master🅱lan

[@cyntdestroyer69xd]

They already had an ex Ferrari principal previously, but with Binotto they're definitely making it to Seria 🅱️ 💀

[@johnnyrandom100]

just imagine if Alfie could match a player to every word he spoke?

[@RahulSharma-wq4qy]

7 attackers who have the worst striking rate in PL (having played 70-80 matches). Maybe Like Shane Long, Dani James, Jordan Ayew, Benrahma, Adama, McNeil, Iwobi etc etc

[@fwdsmatter1117]

Roma won the conference league tho 🙄

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

When the one team league the bundesliga are better than the Italian league shows how far the italian game has fallen.

[@ngmmngw9027]

Don’t disrespect the Bundesliga

[@crazypete614872011]

Absolutely correct

[@francescotrombetta8548]

Bundesliga is actually not better than Serie A, sure they have better stadiums and actually preserve a fidelity system between fans and clubs (50+1 rule); other than that Serie A has better players as well as more clubs competing for the top spots, not to mention that Serie A has a different winner every year from 2019 till now unlike Bundesliga which has been won by the same club for over 10 years now.

[@ngmmngw9027]

​@@francescotrombetta8548 Performance wise outside of domestic League Bundesliga stomps Serie A. If you have have league where most clubs can't fill their own stadiums you won't attract new fans simply because of atmosphere which seems to be non existent.

[@francescotrombetta8548]

@@ngmmngw9027 i've already said that atmosphere wise serie a isn't at the level of Bundesliga but still better teams play in italy, plus european achievements can't be really taken as a criterion since if we were to take into account this premier league would be behind La Liga even though the english league has much more competitivity within its clubs

[@AntoniusTyas]

I mean, I do appreciate how football and motorsport crossed path but 'Arrivabene indicted for Juventus' alleged dodgy cashflow' is not how I want it to go.

[@rohithraman6488]

Video idea: 7 worst haircuts in football history

[@badblood4727]

So why are Barcelona also being penalised for said irregularities!

[@bestrafung2754]

I honestly feel bad for the Juventus fans, players, staff, and manager. Especially the fans who love their club and stuck by Juve even when they were relegated. Punish the owners and get the Italian government involved if needed, but don't punish the fans.