Hitler's Amerika Bomber - How Germany Almost Reached America

[@Zulfburht]

You know, if Hitler has an obsession with seeing American cities destroyed. He sure as hell would have loved Michael Bay films.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Hitler did actually order a viability study into whether a V2 could be fired from modified U Boats off the US coast. As far as I'm aware, it didn't get past the drawing board.

[@BaseDeltaZero1972]

@@Brian-om2hh Watch a bit of Mark Felton do we? :)

[@nathanstroud2223]

He would've loved most current mayors of major American cities, frankly, especially the antisemitic one in New York.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@BaseDeltaZero1972 Not as such. I have a fairly small but informative collection of books here, some of which I think are now out of print. One in particular deals with the last few months of the Nazis plans to attempt an attack on the US, New York in particular. A few schemes and plans were considered, one of which was to launch V1's or V2's from submarines. Not that easy, as you might imagine. The Germans did shell the Eastern US coast from U Boats though, along with sinking some coastal shipping.

[@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs]

If Hitler had an obsession with seeing US cities destroyed the Me 264 would have been funded. It wasn’t. The Me 264 V1 with Jumo 211 engines flew in 1941, it languished with insufficient hangers space, draughtsman and engineers being provided by Erhardt Milch. The Me 262 V2 with BMW 801 would have had the range to reach the east coast but lightly armed. It was fast at 340mph and suitable for reconnaissance and perhaps a nighttime mine laying raid or the occasional nuisance raid at night. The takeoff run was a probelm, nearly 2500m of sealed runway was needed. It wasn’t till 1945 till the DB603H with 2400hp or DB603L would have allowed heavy remote controlled canon armament and a descent takeoff run, range and bomb load. If they were serious the Luftwaffe would have funded the Me 264/6m, a 6 engine stretch (also known as the Me 364) , which could have done the job with plain Jumo 211 engines as early as 1942/43 with the range, takeoff, bomb load and armament (b24 liberator Style tail turret with twin 20mm guns). The reality is the Germans, including Hitler, didn’t put the money into it. Goering flatly told American journalists before the war that the idea of bombing the USA was absurd due to the costs, the minimal effect and the provocation it would be seen as by America.

[@go2mikerenzi]

Germany holds the record for "what if" and "almost" videos.

[@lb7144]

I know, right!

[@-Zevin-]

1,000 year Reich! Laughs in Russian: "almost"

[@pesthizid]

@@-Zevin- At least we tried and had the courage. It took not less than the whole world to bring us down. What about the russian party in Afghanistan? Wasn`t a big win, was it?

[@-Zevin-]

@@pesthizid Take your literal Nazi apologetics somewhere else. Disgusting. Also what an incredible comparison, the Russian party of Afghanistan? You are considering that an equal failure as compared to the Germans loosing WW2 and getting 8 million of their own people killed in the process?

[@pesthizid]

@@-Zevin- I don`t apologize, for what, i have no reason. But i strucked the cord. Russians laughing about germans, afghanis laughing about russians, i`m laughing about you. Btw. Stalin killed a lot more of his own people than little shitler did.

[@michaelf7093]

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them." - Sir Arthur Harris

[@cantbanme792]

lol no, they knew it was possible, they just thought theyd be able to overcome any issues with air superiority, which they did, until they lost their air superiority, even then, from the start till the very end, they were occupied with preventing and then attacking allied bombing runs. in fact, they were more prepared for air attacks than they were ground attacks, they turned their 88 flak into an anti tank gun, not the other way around.

[@quadroshfu2328]

"Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning." - Erwin Rommel

[@quadroshfu2328]

I mean they didn't do too bad considering they were fighting half the world at the same time.

[@quadroshfu2328]

@RDLONG500 @Michael F

[@quadroshfu2328]

@RDLONG500 "they" were outnumbered 5:1 whats your point?

[@chegeny]

The closest production run of the Amerika Bomber was by Revell in 1:72 scale.

[@El_Presidente_5337]

xD

[@JW-xj1yf]

LOL

[@steveperreira5850]

Thanks Cheggy: I was wondering where I could get my hands on one of them. I would just take it on a joy ride, looks like New York has destroyed itself, no real bombers needed, ha ha!

[@dh98pr16]

@@argumasch663 The bomber existed, but Felton does not say it reached NYC- he say there is a hotly disputed claim about that. Anecdotal evidence, but no documents, including squadron logs, support that.

[@tubaraofeio1053]

@@argumasch663 nice! love mark felton videos :D

[@topgeardel]

That was a very tall order to expect a plane in the 40s to fly across the Atlantic and back. It would also have to face air defense before it made it to America.

[@miamijules2149]

Germans had 3 operational Junkers JU390’s stripped down and loaded with extra fuel which had enough range to get from Europe to South America; I’m not sure about air defenses and such but they could and did do it (flight to New York & South America).

[@natedog3542]

A lot of variables. Considering German engineering, it’s not really out of question. As for the aaa and defensive capabilities of their targets, that’s just war games.

[@eddyheredia8194]

They were lucky to have never attacked America's homeland. U see what happened with Japan for hitting Pearl Harbor.. how much worse do you think America would have taken revenge on Germany

[@topgeardel]

@@eddyheredia8194 I understand your thinking but I don't think it was relevant to the situation. Hitler didn't make any sense in his strategy to attack both the Eastern & Western fronts....as well as Africa. I don't think retaliation meant anything to him.

[@timlewis9873]

If 911 is any indication of our air defense, they more than likely would have bombed us.

[@TheWeatherbuff]

If Hermann Göring was to accompany the first mission, there wouldn't have been enough room for his cake and bread requirements. On a serious note, I love this channel!

[@thorerikkarlsen]

Actually, there wouldn't have been enough room for HIM :)

[@zorngottes1778]

@@thorerikkarlsen plenty of room, in the bomb bay. New York would have been destroyed completly with one Göring. The ultimate G-Bomb

[@kmaterne]

Goering was a very rotund man. He looks like a character from a Mel Brooks movie. Lol.

[@patrickstewart3446]

Sure you’re joking… what about his opium paraphernalia? 😁

[@randyrobertson6116]

LMFAO

[@hi-fidude6670]

It`s such a Germany WW2 sound name. The AMERIKABOMBER!

[@Brian-om2hh]

That was, I believe, the code name of the project while it was being developed.

[@redbluesome2829]

@Hi-Fidude66 there never was an “Amerikabomber” project, that’s just more made up bullshit that the allies concocted to villainize the Germans in the eyes of the American public.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@redbluesome2829 I'm afraid you are misinformed. Prototypes were built by the companies who were competing for the contract, but both shortages of materials and supplies, brought about by the advancing allied army, brought the project to a halt. Photographs of both the construction and flight testing do exist. There was little need to villanize the Nazis. They managed that quite successfully unaided............

[@wcsii]

Hitler’s, before the war.... Armored train was called “Amerika”

[@bushmanPMRR]

Rammstein should use it as a name for an album, maybe including a cover of the MOTORHEAD classic 'Bomber'

[@deaustin4018]

Hermon Goering wanted a six engine heavy lift aircraft just in case he decided to attempt an escape at the end of the war. He never thought he'd loose so much weight by the end of the war.

[@vthegoose]

Fun fact, when the western Allie’s captured him they put him on a strict diet and a rehab program so he would live to be at Nuremberg, but he committed self forever sleep :/

[@oasis1282]

@D R He didnt get executed

[@cubismo85]

@D R Goering was cremated after his execution, ashes scattered in order for neo-nazis not to make his grave a martyr place.

[@oldsklteg]

"BMW engines"? better bring a damn good OBD scanner for that transatlantic flight.

[@deadfreightwest5956]

Make sure they don't operate when it's raining.

[@vintagetintrader1062]

You will need to spend a lot of time on the OBD2 scanner killing all the warning codes lol

[@cooldloop2381]

I have an old BMW aircraft engine from 1939. Doesn’t work tho. It also has almost the entire back half missing. Including most of the cylinders.

[@artemborisov8807]

I think that they were as big of assholes in the sky as they were on the road.

[@Johannes_Brahms65]

These were made in Germany!

[@deadfreightwest5956]

So Goering's boast that "they'll never bomb this place!" referred to the Luftwaffe and the United States. Got it.

[@carmium]

The V-2 (or A-4) rocket was never designed to reach America. It had nowhere near the range. The A-9 project had America in mind, but never got very far in development.

[@warrengreen527]

Was also never referred to as the America bomb......

[@hawkeyeten2450]

Was that the 2-stage V-2 rocket? I heard there were plans for a longer range rocket to smack places like New York, Boston and Buffalo.

[@thomashaeyen6942]

@@hawkeyeten2450 the v2 was not designed to reach the US, and the A-9 wasn't called the america bomb, but the america rocket. Duh.

[@Tbonyandsteak]

Yeah, but it would be their best choice to make one that could.

[@williamzk9083]

@@thomashaeyen6942 The A9 would have worked, eventually, but there was major work to complete in guidance. The Germans had the beginning of inertial navigation in platforms such as SG-66 with schuler loop tuning and radio becon navigation but a lot of work. They had an option for a manned version with the pilot parachuting out.

[@lt_darkseekerantique3911]

Meanwhile in war thunder~ Me264: I have better flight characteristics than the B-17s, B-24 and lancasters

[@Potayto0]

Lol yeeeees

[@hansthegermansoldier7550]

Fckin German bias

[@hansthegermansoldier7550]

@Prestallar they have a way too low br

[@noelblack8159]

@@hansthegermansoldier7550 They’re doesn’t exist any Bias

[@hansthegermansoldier7550]

@@noelblack8159 bruh I mean seriously twin mustang in rank 4???

[@rysi0k110]

This Channel is Underrated

[@johntechwriter]

Well, this episode is sheer speculation and failed to impress me. I will be wary of future productions from this outfit.

[@nerino_chan]

Nah, he was pretty spot on

[@nerino_chan]

John Techwriter except for the part of about fascination of burning cities

[@nerino_chan]

Dragomir Ronilac Not Really. It was a totally real event that was close to happening. If the Japanese had reached the US pacific coast and had even sent men to bombard it, It won’t give me a hard time to believe this videos title.

[@rucco2898]

uh wot he has a PhD on history I think

[@MrDK0010]

If it hadn't been for Captain Steven Rogers in 1945, the Walküre would have obliterated the eastern seaboard in just mere minutes.

[@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT]

Are you serious? Any so-called "Amerika bomber" would have been detected and intercepted over the Atlantic Ocean and blown out of the sky before it ever got to the coast of America.

[@JimmyEatDirt]

It appears some people haven't crawled out from under their rock for a decade or so. Captain America: The First Avenger

[@dkgamez2985]

Everyone r/woosh

[@28291973]

@@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT are you special? Or do you live under a rock? Imma go with both

[@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT]

Ken Kaneki “Imma go with both?” Really? Is English your second language or do you just make up words? I’m not “special” but it seems you might be, as in “Special Education” and “short bus!” You need a better hobby than annoying adults on the Internet with silly, inarticulate, meaningless questions.

[@DawnOfTheDead991]

The RAF and the USAAF had enough trouble burning German cities to the ground and they were only 600 miles away and had 1000s of planes.

[@johndumont3114]

Germany might have been able to afford an Amerika Bomber if they didn't waste so much money on the V-2 rocket. The V-2 rocket was more expensive than the Manhattan Project but did very did little damage for the price tag. Great video as always, keep up the good work!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And yet it's technology has been continued to bring people to the moon

[@williamzk9083]

-The V2 was not more expensive than the B-29 or atomic bomb project. As a percentage of military expenditure however it was about the same proportion but still 15% or so the cost since German military expenditures were much less. The V2 would have been a success within about 6 months. It was launched using the interim LEV-3 system that offered a CEP accuracy of 4.5km. However the SG-66 system with a stable platform and additional cross range accelerometer was testing and designed to achieve an accuracy of 500M CEP. There was a beam riding system called vollzirkel that should have achieved 300m CEP and the winged A4b with accuracy of 80m using "Wasserspiegel" radar guidance. -The numbers are also misleading. The Most V2 that were built were never launched and costs were going down from 16000 hours per missile to 4000 hours. -It has to be remembered a V2 didn't require a crew of 7-10 that was trained at great expensive of which half would die. The V2 didn't require escort fighters. The V2 didn't require an airfield that needed defending. The V2 didn't require a ground crew bigger than the air crew. -The Germans could produce 6-7 V2 for the same cost as producing a Lancaster but they could operate the V2 for much cheaper than the Lancaster. The 20 ground, air and airfield crew needed to keep an telecaster operating provide enough man hours in themselves to produce a V2 every month. -The other thing is the Lancaster or B-17 couldn't operate over over German except in large numbers to saturate German defenses and even then needed escorts. There is no way Germany could put 500 aircraft and 500 escorts over the UK. They could put 1000-4000 V2 a month.

[@michaelmarler7016]

So a bomber that was NEVER built "almost" reached America? Do you watch Ancient Aliens often?

[@Frank119811]

This guy is high on something.

[@apple222sickly]

@@Frank119811 Mr.bigbrain he meant the range of the bomber was so close for reaching the US

[@paulcrumley9756]

@@apple222sickly Almost reached means. . . wait for it. . .ALMOST REACHED! None of the few prototypes ever came to the production stage, and anecdotes don't prove anyone ever came close to "reaching" the US, even with prototype patrol aircraft, much less with a non-existent Nazi nuke. . .The title is way overexaggerated, but hey, it got our attention, didn't it?

[@apple222sickly]

@@paulcrumley9756 Even tho i was jugging you have really good points

[@chrisstarring2991]

I'm not saying it was Nazis...... But it was Nazis!

[@mrwideboy]

Is the narrator on speed?

[@paboooj1]

Yes

[@blue_k.7899]

*yes*

[@blue_k.7899]

How has somebody already liked my reply to this comment

[@justingoldstein5269]

lol

[@dx1450]

It's a robot.

[@mikeh7860]

Just when I think I’ve seen or heard of every cool German plane from ww2 I stumble upon a new one

[@tierone4761]

The front of the one bomber in the video ironically resembled the Boeing B29, along with a view of the cockpit as well. Good Day Everyone!

[@SeannoG1]

There's actually a really good historical book about this call "Impossible Target"

[@kirkjohnson9353]

Sounds interesting . Thanks

[@notforgetful4926]

Fitting name

[@rsears78]

Had Hitler kept his agreement with Stalin and directed the Nazis towards America, can you imagine the havoc they would have caused?

[@adamkowalski9559]

The BV 238 was also regarded to be used as "America bomber" for some time. But it become destroyed by british air strike just before it started for his first intercontinental flight. Being a flying boat, BV 238 would be refueled on high sea by U-boats. This conception of using bomber flying boats with submarine supply help was operationally used by Japan in II WW and in soviets conceptions in 1960's.

[@williamzk9083]

I don't think the BV-238 had the range. 4110 miles is only half the range needed and refueling a flying boat in the middle of the Atlantic not realistically possible due to both weather and allied patrols.

[@epikmanthe3rd]

The USA had a similar program in the late 30s for a super long range bomber. Two of the designs were actually built, the XB-15 and XB-19. The latter being the biggest bomber the US fielded until the B36.

[@epikmanthe3rd]

Oh, and the XB-19 had the coolest nickname; The Hemisphere Defender.

[@stevemc01]

“Sir? The Germans are building a new bomber. Our intelligence reports are confirming the Luftwaffe is building something codenamed ‘AMERIKA’.” “…so a new bomber to hit Ottawa?” “Idk, man. Maybe for Canada? Maybe for Moscow? London again?”

[@shaider1982]

Intresringly enough, Hitler's personal train was previously named Amerika.

[@dontneedtoknowmyname.6828]

@David Parry Should have called it Russia then.

[@casinodelonge]

He later changed its name to "Trainy McTrainface"

[@kurtwpg]

Was it wunderbar?

[@blakena4907]

Your channel is amazing. Thanks for the awesome content, man.

[@InfiltrateIndustries]

13:17 Doktor Merkwürdigliebe / Dr. Strangelove

[@davecrupel2817]

Holy sh*t!!!

[@lorensims4846]

At the same time, America had its own plans for a trans-Atlantic bomber. The B-36 wasn't ready until after the war was over but it became the backbone of the Strategic Air Command at the beginning of the Cold War.

[@jshepard152]

Yes. It was predicated on the idea that Britain could fall and the US would have to bomb Europe from North American bases.

[@franktreppiedi2208]

Wasn't the B 36 built in case Britian fell and we had to bomb Germany from the US?

[@lorensims4846]

@@franktreppiedi2208 Yup. It was to be our first transatlantic bomber. But WWII was over before it was ready for the Air Corps. It did manage to come into its own in the early years of the Cold War.

[@williamzk9083]

The XB-15 and XB-19 were started and completed well before the Me 264 and could have bombed Europe from at least Labrador. The Me 264 was started after the American Lend Lease Act was signed. Both the B-29 and B-36 program started before the Me 264.

[@GTP2-zg9tn]

Only one plane met the Amerika bomber requirements: the Horten flying wing XVIII six jet engine proposal. It was approved, but the war ended.

[@steveee4957]

Even if Germany was successful in producing an Amerika bomber, they would have been shot down in droves because they would have made the trip without fighter escort.

[@KAG2203]

Could you please talk a little faster, there is still a fragment of a little paus between the words.

[@michaelawford7325]

Such a tense staccato speech pattern is quite off putting. Take a break ! relax.

[@sski]

I'm pressing X to Doubt on that "Hitler watching cities on fire porn". I'll need a citation for that.

[@DerUfo]

The winner writes history... and things are then quite one sided afterwards.. remember... power corrupts all things.. including the truth

[@yowbeatup7259]

A facist have a mental breakdown in Berlín city

[@somethinglikethat2176]

@@DerUfo the first proper historian (Thucydides) was on the losing side. In fact if you look beyond that cheap throw away line you'll see it's not really the case at all. Eg. How many Germans wrote books after the war.

[@culturallyawake7399]

Could of sworn it would of been Churchill and FDR. Anyone remember Dresden? The allies COMPLETLY LEVELED Germany. Hitler didn't want any of this. People need to read what the leaders wrote, and watch the speeches instead of being told by people who weren't there. Even Churchill said "the air opened paths along which death and terror could be carried far behind the lines of the actual enemy; to women, children, the aged, the sick, who in earlier struggles would perforce have been left untouched" - The Great War Vol 3. Page 1602 Many more quotes as well. People need to realize the truth.

[@michaelf7093]

Hitler also liked to watch films of political prisoners being hanged.

[@alexiszorbec-legras8232]

This aircraft had actually started to be built in an aircraft factory requisitioned in France. I even think he did a few flights just after the war and was curving dangerously.

[@jjmerrow8062]

The Me 264 is basically just a young B-29

[@packr72]

The B-29 came first.

[@jjmerrow8062]

@@apis_aculei I meant it as a joke because the cockpit looked similar

[@MartinMizner]

@@packr72 fun fact good to know

[@michaeldunne338]

The Me 264 was basically a failed strategic bomber prototype and development program. The B-29 gave some serious headaches, but the experience and supporting industry was there - Boeing had already brought into service the B-17 (in 1938).

[@liamgavinwells]

Goeing G-29 Süpër-förtrëss

[@badstimpy]

Love your content but reckon you can end the videos a tad better. They just seem to end promptly without a sense of closure !! Keep up the great work .

[@PeteCourtier]

A slowing of the delivery would also help. It is improving though👍 Mind you, I would probably be shit at making a KZbin video😂👍👍

[@adammiller3418]

thats kinda his thing

[@Idahoguy10157]

The Third Reich and their too little, too late wonder weapons... Even when they had a V1 and V2

[@ozzy7763]

Don’t forget Hitler wanting the Me 262 to carry bombs ! Lol

[@joeg5414]

more like too big, too late. They were obsessed with making everything the biggest.

[@deadfreightwest5956]

And thus was born the History Channel to apologize for the Third Reich's shortcomings and explain away the lucky breaks the Allies had.

[@anthonygarcia1846]

They had a u boat that they say could have turned the war if produced in mass numbers

[@deadfreightwest5956]

@@anthonygarcia1846 - But of course, due to limited resources, bad planning and general incompetence, they didn't.

[@Jumpy-xv7gk]

Hey dark docs your awesome

[@FireAngelZero]

All the “Dark” series are awesome, “Dark Skies” and “Dark footage” are my favorites...

[@Commander800]

This

[@FireAngelZero]

Trump Super Majority 2020 yes... I wonder that constantly... they do a very good job at staying “dark”

[@koukimonzta]

In todays day and age, this is the job of an ICBM

[@deezem5294]

Very important information. Totally would have never known

[@Colonel_Obvious]

Germany did reach America. With U-boats. The waters along North America’s eastern coast is littered with ships sunk by U-boats. And with sunken U-boats. Allied countermeasures turned the tide, just as they would have done in the air if needed. A relative few German long range bombers would not have been decisive.

[@austin1839]

Hitler promised his own military that he would NOT declare war until at least 1946. If he'd only have waited then we might all be eating bratwurst and sauerkraut today.

[@genes.3285]

Nah, Hitler knew the limitations of Germany. He wasn't even that enthusiastic about attacking Britain.

[@greenmtroamer33]

If he hadn’t invaded Russia it might have been a different outcome. Luckily he was foolish enough to think he could defend two fronts.

[@alganhar1]

The problem with this kind of statement is that it assumes everyone would have sat back and watched without doing anything themselves. Which is a pretty lazy way of looking at things. Let us take Britain for example, what do you think Britain would have done had Hitler instituted the Z Plan for the Kreigsmarine? You think that a nation that lived and died on the strength of its Navy would have done NOTHING? Not by a long shot! They would have enacted the escalation clause of the Naval Treatie and started an expansion of the Royal Navy, including the planned N3 and G3 Battlecruiser and battleships. They would have massively expanded their destroyer program to include far, far more Tribal Class, and give the timescale may have brought in the Battle and Daring Class by the start of a 1946 war. Unlike Germany, Britain had the Naval Construction infrastructure required to comprehensively outbuild the proposed Z Plan in both quantity and quality. Then you have the Royal Air Force, which by a start date of 1946 would be seeing aircraft such as the de Haviland Hornet, the Hawker Fury, and other late war aircraft designs entering service at the start of the war. As for the army, the mid war saw the major problem with British Tank design solved, lack of a decent engine, with the advent of the Meteor engine, a de rated merlin specifically designed for tanks. That led by 1944 to the Comet, and by 1945 the first Centurions were entering service, albeit with the 17 pounder rather than the planned 20 pounder. You see the problem? Fact is other nations would NOT have stood idly by and watched Hitler ramp up his forces to the extent he had planned. They WOULD have reacted. The Royal Navy had literally decided that 1944 - 1946 was the most likely period for a major war to start and had plans for a full 12 Fleet Carriers and fully replacing all current RN Battleships with modern designs by 1945. Not to mention a quadrupling of the Tribal Destroyer Force from 28 to over a hundred of those superb ships.

[@coachhannah2403]

austin1839 - The arms race and Hitler's insistence on autarky, both set in stone, meant the timetable was forced on Hitler. Things would have REALLY been impossible (but reallygood for everyone else) had Hitler waited.

[@steve5123456789]

@@greenmtroamer33 There was no waiting. If the russians invaded Romania to take the oil fields the germans would of lost before the battle even began. He stayed neutral in finnish war for guaranteeing the soviets wouldn't invade romania.

[@lafeelabriel]

Fun fact: If anyone here, other than me of course, has watched Konpeki No Kantai, the TA-400 is clearly where they got the inspiration for the Germans' Jormungand (apt name must be said) heavy bomber in that show.

[@coachhannah2403]

A-bomb: $2+ billion B-29: $3+ billion. Amerika bomber: not in this universe...

[@Ebolter1]

the Amerika bomber was very true

[@coachhannah2403]

Joseph Heaney - What would it have done?

[@Ebolter1]

@@coachhannah2403 I know , but they were close to developing their own weapons of mass destruction with a bomber that could deliver them

[@coachhannah2403]

Joseph Heaney - What WMD might that be? And, no, they were nowhere close to developing, let alone producing, the Amerika.

[@RedOrm68]

@@coachhannah2403 well, the Third Reich did try to develop its own nuclear weapons, using dideuteriumoxide, or heavy water, from the Hydro-plant in Norway.

[@dansotelo228]

To those looking for tangible evidence of this Amerikan airplane, I know where one of the engines exist, and it's massive. For some reason, several rare WW-II German machines and artifacts ended up at LA's Griffith Park train museum in the late 40s and early 50s. I can remember in the late 70s & mid-80s they had a flying Buzz bomb outside rotting away. Also next to a vintage LA Fire ladder truck they had this massive Amerika engine, with a simple plack saying how this engine was captured after WW-II and was to fit on a Massive bomber to drop a nuclear bomb on New York. I'm sure the museum is gone by now so I would check with Griffith Park Museum officials to track down this engine which I think belongs in the Smithsonian.

[@funroll-loops6069]

Awesome video as always!! I was kind of hoping there might have been a mention of the Horten brother's proposal too.

[@Onmyfacepls]

Nazi Germany was nowhere near close to making atomic weapons. It had some concepts down but it would have been years before they could achieve nuclear arms.

[@dave_h_8742]

@michael Dinneweth fire bombing Tokyo killed more than the first Atomic bomb. Japan started total war and so America did the same back to them so what's your problem with that ?

[@BB-gr9hq]

They knew there was a deliverable atomic bomb design out there somewhere. But they were barking up several wrong trees. I guess they should not have run off all the Jewish scientists that finally figured it out (for the allies).

[@mcnudde]

@formless777 Sources please?

[@jamesricker3997]

If they had tried they would have had a huge factory complex conveniently in range of allied bombers

[@Ron52G]

@michael Dinneweth How many people did the Japanese slaughter during the Rape of Nanking and the Nanking Massacre?

[@slojoe58]

I'm confused, when did the alien spacecraft come into play?

[@tonycerino9645]

They didn't understand the UFO tech at the time, it worked like magic..

[@RottenFlesh-we6nu]

This is almost a german b-29 on the outside

[@aljayrankin8353]

Actually this came first so the b29 would be the American B29 ahhaha

[@victoregley5359]

design follows function

[@Helperbot-2000]

@@aljayrankin8353 i guess it is the americaN bomber then?

[@packr72]

@@aljayrankin8353 Came first? The XB-29 flew first and was already in production before the 264 flew. The B-29 was ready for combat first too.

[@geraldtrudeau3223]

No this is more like it. This is the quality that dark skies can be up to. Congratulations.

[@smithchanning3005]

This was my favorite video you’ve done yet. Thank you. Keep up the great work

[@bongwelll]

Man I love this channel. Even the name is great.

[@rudolfabelin383]

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!! 7:56 I was writing the text below as I listened to your video. I hear you mention Hans Pancherz at this time point . I am not aware of Capetown, but if Hans said so, you should take it very seriously. He was a living legend, only one to have flown the JU 248. When I was Chairman of the Malmö Division of the Swedish Society of Aeronautics ans Astronautics I persuaded onkel Hans to hold a lecture of the JU 248. If things had been different at the wars end, the record books would not say Chuck Yeager, but Hans Pancherz instead. Here is where I started to write parallel to watching the video: Hi! A man I grew up with a man who was the chief test pilot (German: Versuchfliger) of the JU 390. He worked for my father after the war at MFI, Malmö Flygindustri in Sweden. Some of the test flight he made started in Germany, went down to Central Africa and back again (nonstop). As far as I know one of the few uses of it was to fly to South America and back with rare alloy metals. The chief test pilot's name was Flugkapitän Hans Pancherz, he was also an engineer. At the end of the was he was put in charge for the development of all jet and rocket aircraft. It was he who made the Heinkel He 162, Volksjäger, a flyable aircraft after it's problems that killed his predecessor. The flights of JU 390 are not fiction. BTW Flugkapitän Hans Pancherz made the worlds second catapult ejection in a JU 290, not planned. Tail broke in a world record attempt.

[@rudolfabelin383]

@Mark Gaiennie Yep! What I wrote here is only a small percentage of the people I grew up with. Today, most of these people has passed away.

[@bjrnnordgarden1249]

Great as always

[@weirdbritishperson9542]

Bjørn Nordgarden it was posted a minute ago

[@bjrnnordgarden1249]

@@weirdbritishperson9542 still great tho

[@weirdbritishperson9542]

Yea I was just saying sorry

[@silvertalon007]

There was even a Heavy Bomber Version of the Horton-229 conceived, but like the P-1000 Ratte, it never made it off the paper it was drawn on.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

@RoughneckMP didn't they tested with an radar that was obsolete by 1942?

[@marrvynswillames4975]

besides, the test was with a fully wood model, the actual aircraft would be less stealth due of the steel components

[@silvertalon007]

@@marrvynswillames4975 Perhaps... But if the Germans had more time and resources they probably could have worked around that somehow. Its Germany for cryin' out loud.

[@modelm77]

The Germans had. a real talent for drawing cool-looking airplanes.

[@bert8373]

Also a great read-Luftwaffe Over Americ by Manfred Griehl

[@DudeKentucky]

Great work!! The research on this doc must have been tremendous!!

[@dushooter]

Great job on the research and presentation!!! Keep it coming.

[@_Patton_Was_Right]

"WE DEFEATED THE WRONG ENEMY!" They killed Patton for speaking the truth

[@barrierodliffe4155]

Patton got himself in the way of a vehicle. He died and he was not exactly very intelligent.

[@patalinghugjosephmarkkent6082]

Yeay another vid! Keep em coming

[@Gonzalouchikari]

When I see "Amerika" instead of "America", I think in the Rammstein song.

[@BladeScraper]

same

[@senorpepper3405]

Amerika ist wunderbar.

[@bennoakes2477]

@@senorpepper3405 nein

[@laurencethornblade1195]

@@senorpepper3405 America is underbar

[@senorpepper3405]

@@laurencethornblade1195 Ist es nicht unterbar? Ich denke. Das ist der text zum lied.

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Love the "Ford Aircraft" logo on the lab coat at 16:33.

[@semperfidelis9896]

I Love all that Videos Form all "Dark" Channels good job. Neutral talking and interisting sry me German and my english ist not good greetz from Berlin Germany 🤗😍😘

[@gotanon8958]

Oh Amerika bomber did exist and went into service except it goes in the other direction to germany its know as the B-36 convair

[@zapfanzapfan]

Six turning, four burning :-)

[@redbluesome2829]

@Anon We are no relation to any German plane. The B-36 reflected the engineering trends of its time, jet/piston hybrid was the only way to meet performance demands before jet technology (and reliability) had advanced to the point of allowing a full jet bomber like the B-52.

[@gort8203]

@@redbluesome2829 Actually the B-36 met is requirements and was in service with just the R-4360s. The jets were added later, mostly to boost speed over the target area and give the Russian jet interceptors a somewhat tougher target.

[@failing2improve17]

very epic video thanks

[@mrman4003]

Very informative, keep up the good work.

[@S1lverspike]

This channel is seriously underrated.

[@ethan8661]

In 9:33 scenes, Kurt Tank designed Ta 400 mixed-powered(six BMW 801E radial piston engines, two Junkers Juno 004 turbojet engines) strategic bomber is fantasy and nice pretty good, Ta 400 use powerplant by BMW 801E engines(deploying about at 1,975hp) and Junkers Juno 004 turbojet engines(deploying about at 9.7 kN), They originally planned for BMW 802 or DB 604 or Jumo 223 engine, But three new and over 2,000hp engine has tested to fail and no massive production, They have use BMW 801E radial piston engine and Juno 004 turbojet engine to give Ta 400, And that try to use BMW 801Q(turbocharger) or 801R(two stage four speed supercharger) give Ta 400 more flying high speed and high altitude to deporting Ta 400 strategic bomber version, But it is never exists upgrade project.

[@22vx]

This failure saved Germany from nuclear obliteration.

[@billdewahl7007]

Or...time did.

[@GodKing_Guts]

@@oem42 bro they had no idea about that stuff at the time. Legit just yeeted a new bomb on japan amd tested them for years after. That's why we understand radiation and its dangers

[@ElGrandoCaymano]

What?? The FW-TA 400 was to carry 53,000lbs in bombs? vs 14k for a Lancaster or 16k for a B-29 Superfortress (or 4.8k for a B-17) A FW TA-400 would carry as much bombs as 11 B-17s - across the Atlantic!

[@Helperbot-2000]

Now thats alota damage! Of course it would have been way to easy to shoot down over the atlantic

[@modelm77]

A lot of these imaginary planes have spectacular specifications. They take the same horsepower as a B-29 and purport to fly a heavier plane further, higher and faster with a heavier payload, as if they had the ability to produce those powerful engines or scrounge up the fuel to fly them.

[@kurtwpg]

He came so close. If only it had been engineered, tested, flown, and had enough fuel in the country to get it to America.

[@paulcrumley9756]

three more words. . . "and mass-produced." It would take hundreds if not thousands of these dream machines to "reach" the US. A significant percentage likely would have simply crashed into the North Atlantic from glitches in the newly introduced technical stuff; another large percentage would have had to fight their way through the coastal defenses, and if the US could produce enough fighters to use in Europe, diverting a small percentage to homeland defense would have been trivial.

[@modelm77]

@@paulcrumley9756 Yes, and after the first attack with 10 of the 24 bombers dispatched getting to the target and having managed to drop a combined 20 tons of bombs, many of which would have exploded, over the greater NYC metropolitan area, any future raids would have been met with swarms of Corsairs and Hellcats from hastily-redeployed escort carriers starting about 1,500 miles offshore and shot into the Atlantic in droves. That's assuming the Germans had the capability to produce hundreds of bombers, which they didn't, or to provide them with trained aircrew, which they couldn't, or to provide the fuel for them, which they couldn't either. Several of these prototypes were destroyed in Allied air attacks; why would anyone think they could produce a strategically important bombing force unmolested? They'd be bombed into dust.

[@Zhoolik]

@@modelm77 Yep, it would have been an ineffective one-and-done. Besides starting a genocidal, unjustified war of aggression upon millions of innocent people, the second mistake was expending one's air force with insufficient resources to replace in the Battle of Britain in 1940. Putin is experiencing a similar fate with his tank army in the Ukraine. "Where are my T-90's!?"

[@KG-li7kg]

Zum einen: Diese ME264 war zwar als Langstreckenbomber geplant und sogar mit 1 Exemplar fertig Gebaut. Diese einzige maschine wurde aber während eines Luftangriffes, zerbomt und eine neue Maschine wurde nicht mehr gebaut. Abgesehen davon, soweit war man damals noch nicht, das ein Flugzeug von Deutschland oder einen anderen Punkt von Europa aus, den Flug bis zu den USA und zurück geschafft hätte. Dazu hätte man eine Base als Zwischenstation zum Auftanken haben müssen, was Deutschland aber nicht hatte. Es gab ja auch noch andere Mitbewerber, die einen sogenannten "America-Bomber" konstruierten, wie z.B. Junkers mit der JU 390 (6-Motor) . Der kühnste Entwurf stammte ja von den Gebrüdern Horten, die einen "Nurflügler" mit gewaltigen Ausmassen auf dem Papier hatten, doch alle diese Entwürfe waren nur "Heisse Luft". Inzwischen war mit in der Raketenentwicklung sehr weit fortgeschritten, so das man ein Raketenprojekt in Angriff nahm, dies war eine 2-stufige Rakete, die man A9 nannte. Auch von dem Österreichischen Konstrukteur Sänger war ein Entwurf auf dem Zeichenbrett fertig, aber zur Produktion solcher Fluggeräte kam es aus Gründen der Kriegslage nicht mehr.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

When played at .75 speed it almost sounds like professional voice over work by Richard Kiley. Which is a God-send. My dear fellow speaks so quickly and haltingly that it is somewhat distracting.

[@wynterr7862]

Ah yes, Germany managed to forget about the concept of stealing

[@5777Whatup]

I think they did it well. Our bomb sights and all.

[@lairdcummings9092]

When they could, they did. They copied from observation, too. Bottom line, though, is that until mid-war, the Germans had little practical need to swipe much. Their technology was mature, and roughly comparable to their foes, where it wasn't actually superior. By the time the Germans *needed* to start swiping ideas, it was already much too late.

[@5777Whatup]

Laird Cummings well everyone of Hitlers commanders told him not to move until 1945. He didn’t listen. Oh boy if he had of... they might of been able to do something hmm 🤔

[@5777Whatup]

Barbarossa was really what fucked them. Dunkirk and not rolling on the BEF was a big mistake. Hindsight is 20/20

[@lairdcummings9092]

@@5777Whatup that's what happens when you let a corporal run your wars.

[@tegunn]

They still had to worry about fighter escort..

[@jamesricker3997]

Someone in Germany actually did the math Figured the cost of materials and fuel and potential damage then came to the conclusion that shorter range bombers gave them a better return on investment

[@harryplummer6356]

And of course getting back! Cheers!

[@Veldtian1]

"Ahh the Luftwaffe, the Washington Generals of the History Channel." ~ Homer J Simpson. 'Lisa the Tree Hugger' Season 12.

[@bengale7054]

Could you do a video on the BV 238 I’m amazed with how it worked and it’s overall life. I can find little information about the one prototype that was completed and it’s very minemal.

[@MoveAhead101]

A Focke Wulf Fw 200 V1 „Condor“ flew on the 10. of August 1938 non-stop from Berlin to New York. You make it sound, that this was impossible to fly those distances at that time. Such a plane is currently undergoing restoration in Bremen and Hamburg and will be on display in Berlin.

[@Zerzayar]

Well, it had to land and be refueled, hadn't it?

[@MoveAhead101]

Zerzayar yes, but some people were so fanatic, they would have died if „necessary“

[@modelm77]

Cool. Now turn around and fly back after having carried 4,000 lbs of bombs on the outward journey.

[@Soildus]

Great video as always. But I thought the Horten 18 was the only bomber Germany planned to bomb America with. Anyways, please do a video on it and the Horten 229!

[@puremaga17]

Horten 229?.. Horten 229.. oh you mean the prototype for Jack Northrop's YB-49 and the B-2. Yup!

[@farmazoniarz]

@@puremaga17 no he means Ho 229 you stoopid freeaboo

[@puremaga17]

@@farmazoniarz Joking sarcasm sometimes does not come across via text.. just like your post.. But how the heck did you know I was a freeaboo.. that's classified 😜

[@mmandershied5703]

Deliberately sped up audio is annoying.

[@Blackwolf-of5kx]

Mark Felton beat you to it

[@kirkjohnson9353]

I hope we don't run short on war stories.

[@markrozenberg7959]

Kirk Johnson let’s hope we do.

[@bernardedwards8461]

Without s nuclear weapon the Amerkabomber was a waste of time and resources. When the war ended, Germany was about 2 years away from producing a nuclear weapon, which it couldn't have used anyway for fear of retaliation in kind. And had Germany had a vast fleet of these bombers, where would the fuel they needed have come from?

[@michaelmoon5700]

I agree with the need to take look at the lack of any heavy four engine bomber. Being able to bomb the munitions factories the Soviets set up East of the Ural Mountains would have had a greater impact than bombing New York.

[@deadfreightwest5956]

14:04 - What the hell is a shoulder mount on a bomber?!

[@jackt6112]

It's not real clear but with aircraft it normally refers to the mounting position of the wing.

[@kimchipig]

Ahhh, WW2 bombing in one of the clips. Most of the bombs dropped blew up dirt in fields.

[@Lenoch_]

1:10 “Official plans for a long-range bomber officially didn’t commence...” redundant writing asf

[@Helperbot-2000]

When you writing an essay like:

[@randomsomeone1617]

Great video as usual 👌

[@SanderAnderon]

learned a lot here...your research, production & narration are always TV/doc broadcast quality

[@deadfreightwest5956]

For a bot

[@JohnDoe-pv2iu]

For as technically advanced as the Germans were, they didn't have the foresight to build aircraft carriers!

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

They did. The Graf Zeppelin. Construction was stopped when the war started, then started again after the showings of aircraft in the attacks on Pearl Habor and Taranto, the sinking of Bismarck, and the Battle of Midway before being permeantly stopped after Hitler became disillusioned with the Kriegsmarine's surface ships. But Germany never would've really had a use for it any as they had no carrier capable aircraft and the moment it was completed, it would've been destroyed by RAF planes or RN ships. There were also many plans to build carriers, even as early as WWI. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_Germany

[@JohnDoe-pv2iu]

@@randomlyentertaining8287 I got you on that. My point was in the 30s, they should have had a couple under construction. In other words, they should have had at least two prior to the start of the war. Working out a suitable carrier plane would have been a piece of cake compared to developing this bomber. Yall take Care and be safe.

[@peterson7082]

They weren't technologically advanced over any other nation.

[@YUSKHAN]

They did the graf zeppelin unfinished project, by 1941 the entire German war machine was stuck in the Soviet Union, if they had missed the Russian winter they would have defeated the Soviet Union and brought AmeriKKKa down without using a single aircraft carrier

[@JohnDoe-pv2iu]

@@peterson7082 sorry buddy but Yes they were. Why do you think the Soviet Union and America were grabbing up Germans, not for war trials but for weapons development after WW2? Operation Paperclip was a great success!

[@tapio83]

Btw I prefer playing this at 0.75 speed - makes it somehow easier listening

[@debbiewilliamson3286]

6:16 why is that Engineer wearing a FORD School coat?

[@RobertGarcia-wv8vx]

@Debbie Williamson , Um, "You can afford a Ford" ? Leave it to a woman to notice clothes. Hahahahaha

[@debbiewilliamson3286]

@@RobertGarcia-wv8vx I work for Ford, hence my interest and yes I can afford one

[@RobertGarcia-wv8vx]

@@debbiewilliamson3286 , Hahahaha. Do you eat Little Debbies? They are great with coffee in the morning.

[@jshepard152]

I can't speak to the specific footage, but Ford had factories in Germany during WW2. If memory serves, Ford even made the US Congress compensate it for bombing one of them.

[@DajjalAbulahabov]

9:00 what´s the ugly pyramid skyscraper on the foreground, please?

[@twoguysandavan84]

Love your hard work, always an enjoyable watch.

[@cesarebeccaria7641]

From everything I've read, Germany and Japan took opposite extreme wrong approaches to weapons. Germany devoted too much effort into research and development of new designs in aircraft and submarines. Japan spent the war manufacturing essentially the same aircraft, subs and ships they had at the beginning of the war. Both methods failed. Germany never had enough working planes, with the miracle plane coming; Japan was woefully obsolete by 1944. American approach was to develop to a point, then go to manufacture, allowing incremental improvements afterward. The Mustang and B17 are great examples of aircraft from that approach. The Gato and Balao class submarines won the war in the Pacific, in spite of BurOrd's galactic failure in torpedo design. Germany's only hope for a New York bombing would have to have been some variation on the Doolittle raid of Tokyo, except Germany's planes would have no place to go afterward, and would have to plan to ditch at some predetermined U-boat pickup point, assuming a U-boat could survive long enough.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Germany was basically developing their war equipment for the 1950s. All great projects in theory, that would work amazingly well, in theory. From long range bombers to jet fighters to intercontinental missiles to properly armed submarines to the modern assault rifle. All stuff that would come around in the 1950s & 60s. But not stuff needed at that point in a war that was full of wrong decisions to begin with. The only real point in directly attacking the US mainland would be after Europe is secured as a message to stay away. A bit like a mirror to the Monroe doctrine.

[@davidweber5833]

They never really pursued the atom bomb. They considered it “jewish physics.”

[@thomaschilcott]

Nazi Germany most certainly did pursue the atom bomb! Nazi scientists (including Heisenberg) were working on producing heavy water (Deuterium) in occupied Norway, in a town called Rjukan. There were various saboteur efforts, culminating in an explosives raid on the heavily defended belly of the Vermork Power Plant itself. These attacks were instrumental in denying the Nazis access to Deuterium and thus a nuclear weapon. See "The Heroes of Telemark" for further reference.

[@muysli.y1855]

Jewish physics ? What a bs u read

[@nathanhatfield8790]

I’ve never heard f this Hitler guy but he seems driven.

[@bruceghent8776]

Where have you been living and not heard of Adolph Hitler?

[@opoxious1592]

Me neither. Seems like an inpressive fellow.

[@marksides9757]

The fact that there are two people who have never heard of Hitler is freakin scary. The fact that Education has neglected or deleted this is also freakin scary. To forget, or in this case be ignorant of, history is to repeat it.

[@nathanhatfield8790]

opoXIous and what’s with all the anger that I haven’t heard of him?? So now I need to know every person that ever lived. I’m not saying I agree with everything he did, just that he seemed really motivated

[@opoxious1592]

@@nathanhatfield8790 I don't understand your reply. Why so angry? I'm just confirming your statement. I also never hear about that Hitler guy. I looked him up, and i just said "Hitler"" seems to be quite an impressvie fellow. Nothing More.

[@harveydenver8348]

Fascinating! Great information. I learned a lot from this video. Thank you.

[@partygrove5321]

It took a 1000+ planes to start the Hamburg firestorm and they only had to fly 500 miles. A few of these making cross Atlantic bombing raid on NYC would do squat.

[@partygrove5321]

Though if they did even manage to drop a couple of bombs on Manhattan, that would have caused the US to divert 100s of planes and AA guns to NYC and tied up the City for weeks

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

"the V-2 or America rocket..." What? When was the V-2 referred to as the America rocket?

[@NielsC68]

It wasn't?

[@zapfanzapfan]

No, the V2 was not the Amerika rocket but there were plans for a two stage rocket where the second stage was a V2. That might have reached across the Atlantic. V2 could reach London if launched from France/Belgium/Netherlands.

[@barrierodliffe4155]

@@zapfanzapfan About 200 miles for the V 2 but terrible accuracy, imagine over 3,000 miles and how far off target it would be.

[@modelm77]

@@barrierodliffe4155 Amerika is pretty big tho. You may drop your V-2 into a lake in Maine but at least it hit Amerika

[@hellohun7331]

In retrospect burning NYC to the ground might have been a good thing.

[@theduck3876]

when you consider what it is now absolutely

[@theenglishmajor1198]

Well I think Seattle would have been a better choice considering the things going on in America today.

[@DunedinMultimedia2]

Nazi much? LOL

[@theduck3876]

@@DunedinMultimedia2 bruh you best be joking

[@williamlin2076]

6:14 is that an American flag I see?

[@daveblock4061]

I thoroughly enjoy your channel, however at 6:16 the engineer's lab coat specifically says "FORD SCHOOL" in FORD script. Thinking many of these old films are from the Consolidated factory.

[@grahambell5340]

The V2 was never an Amerika Rocket .(15.15 into the programme) He must be thinking of the A9/A10 project , This is generally an excellent series