Hive Fleet Leviathan | Warhammer 40,000

[@AkselGAL]

You are all mislead! The tyranids are the flesh of angels. They cannot be corrupted by chaos. Nor tempted by money, goods, power or lust of the body. They don't strife for individual might or glory. They are selfless. They are couragous, vigourous, willing to endure. Traits we would call noble. They even give hope to everyone. They purge the unholy. By consuming their sinful flesh. And from their flesh they are reborn. They are the angels, saints and sword of God in Warhammer 40k and they have come for the final days! 😁

[@sugarjumper45]

SUPPPLICATE YOURSELVES BEFORE THE MANY ARMED EMPEROR!!!

[@Booklat1]

yes fellow human, but why do you have a third arm?

[@erichunsaker4969]

Found the Genestealer cultist

[@SleightCreative]

brothers, get the flamer... bay the heavy flamer we have heretics to burn

[@theless-than-goodhunter7019]

Cool motive, still murder

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

The Imperium unable to work out why the Nids are aiming for Terra, a planet that spews a massive psychic beacon into space

[@geraldhuff7413]

Hmmm a mystery to be sure.

[@wassup048]

But dont they need that massive psychic beacon to navigate?

[@boobah5643]

@@wassup048 The humies do, sure. But it's not much of a mystery when the psychic paperclip maximizers aim straight at the psychic lighthouse you set up.

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

@@wassup048 It's what's attracting them to the galaxy. A big bright light going "edible sentient beings here"

[@primafacie5029]

Its like a lightbulb to a moth... a hungry hungry flesh eating moth

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Now might be a good time to call in that ancient, immortal army of skeleton robots.

[@RabbitShirak]

I, for one, welcome our new, bony overlords.

[@mho...]

why whould they help us fleshbags? if we are all absorbed into the hive & they move on, the galaxy could be all biometal afterwards!....just like they planned

[@ST-oo3lg]

But i don’t believe they want everything to be metal anymore, right? Arent they looking for a way to escape their metal existence?

[@alphamoon_]

I cannot describe my utter terror at recently listening to the Horus Heresy series and having the book Pharos end with "Slowly, glacially, the Great Devourer shifted its course." Nobody could've foreseen the actions of the Horus Heresy would cause something millions if not billions of light years away to shift its gaze and spend the next nearly ten thousand years making its way over to fuck shit up.

[@VictorIV0310]

Barabas Dantioch could not have known.

[@alannatherson7721]

Silent King, I think it's time to start that whole 'stop the Tyranids' plan.

[@randomdude8202]

he will build a wall

[@GaldirEonai]

Since it probably involves wiping out all organic life in the galaxy to starve the 'nids, that may be a less-than-ideal option.

[@santacatarinaball7091]

​@@randomdude8202a great great wall

[@warriorsofftime2782]

​@@santacatarinaball7091and he'll make the Tyranids pay for it

[@cass7448]

@@randomdude8202 *Insert Pacific Rim reference here*

[@QuietB4]

Ah yes, my favourite: Eldritch horrors beyond my comprehension

[@mees9704]

do you have any idea how little that narrows it down in 40k?

[@cmdraftbrn]

which eldritch horror?

[@patcowley6378]

I don't know who Eldritch is but Tyranids are horrific nightmare fuel...

[@cmdraftbrn]

@@patcowley6378 they got nothing on the drukhari

[@dekuvisuals9847]

​@@cmdraftbrn nah the drukari are just pure evil

[@Tarotb]

That last time is truly chilling. The idea that the Tyranids weren't even trying before would have me looking for another galaxy in the imperiums peace

[@looseycanon]

Naaah, they are not a threat. The Galaxy has two separate things, which could deal with them. Necrons and Men of Iron.

[@chimera9818]

It does imply they are the worst force the imperium can face with probably only fully awaken necron can challenge)

[@Tarotb]

@@chimera9818 I'd agree except that I know they're only the worst threat until the next one; status quo is a greater god than Nurgle

[@lachsthesalmon1441]

​@@looseycanonthe tyranids are very much able to deal with the necrons, the necrons just don't have anything to offer to them since they don't have any biomass, so attacking them would result in a loss of material

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

A endless swarm of teeth

[@chimera9818]

The moment when you realize the tyranidis made the imperium and chaos work together it legit make everything scarier (probably the most depressing endtime that could be is the tyranidis just eat Milky Way galaxy and moving on )

[@thehayguy]

Unless the emperor wakes up and unites mankind, that's probably the most likely outcome.

[@jenniferlumiqued]

@@thehayguy if they somehow try to make the emperor slowly regenerate, very slowly but fast enough that it would increase hope in the imperium and make it stronger

[@GaldirEonai]

They didn't exactly work together. Ka'bandha just had his own plan for vengeance against the Blood Angels run directly into the 'nids, something he didn't see coming _at all_ and which completely ruined his carefully (for a khornate daemon) prepared surprise attack. After realizing that the plan was beyond salvaging he decided to vent his rage on the 'nids for a while (declaring "nobody gets to wipe out the Blood Angels but me!") before disappearing back into the Warp, but not before piling a bunch of tyranid skulls into symbol of Khorne so big it could easily be seen from the surface of Baal on one of its moons as a farewell Fuck You to the defenders.

[@Boudiccanyc]

If the Tyranids eat everything and move on, that works out pretty well for the Necrons.

[@ninjitsuscorpion5163]

@@Boudiccanycdont the necrons want to be flesh again

[@AidenS1234-t7x]

"We do not know what our chances of survival are, so we fight as if they were zero. We do not know what we are facing, so we fight as if it were the dark gods themselves. No one will remember us now and no one will build a memorial for us, so we will build our own memorial here. The Imperium might lose us and the galaxy may never know we existed, but the Enemy - the Enemy will know. The Enemy will remember. We will hurt it so badly that it will never forget us until the stars burn out and the Emperor vanquishes it at the end of time. When the hive mind lay dying, it’s last thought will be of us. That is our memorial -carved into the heart of The Enemy. We cannot lose, loyal soldiers. We have already won."

[@theskullboy8700]

One of my favorite stories that features the tyranids is the one where the main characters (a normal imperium ship crew) are tragically eaten by a tyrannid hive ship. Seeing their perspective of their ship being broken down with them inside was horrifying.

[@MykusMcFinity]

That sounds like a story worth checking out. Do you have the name of it?

[@kenyabrunson4985]

The KZbin channel, A Vox in the Void, does an audio version of the story. It's called "Flesh Noose". Between this and Genestealer Cults, the Tyranids are horrifying.

[@TheMariusDarkwolf]

@@kenyabrunson4985 I mean if you wanna talk horrifying, the basic infantry rifle of the 'Nids is actually horrific if you stop and actually consider it. A rifle, that shoots thumb sized beetles, that then burrow into you and eat you from the inside out. And this is their basic rifle.

[@MykusMcFinity]

@@kenyabrunson4985 Excellent! Cheers, I'll check it out

[@LiteDnBFnatic]

>Few million Guardsmen told to hold planet as a bump in the road for Leviathan >Guardsman scared shitless >Tyranids start descending on the planet >Lizardmen with they super advanced Kroxigors pop out of nowhere and assist humans >Guardsmen can't explain it. Kroxigors just violate the Nids >Lizardmen don't say anything and just leave

[@justsomeasianguy220]

And then everyone clapped

[@MrFunzerker]

>Surviving Guardsmen ordered to assist other worlds against the Tyranids >They surely perish as they once again reminded of the universe they are in

[@Rhawin]

That's how you describe the Tyranid threat, i mean as a former Tyranid player, now playing Necrons, it took the Tyranid threat to make The Silent King return. No threat except all Necrons awakened even comes close.

[@Angaraman]

The angle I always wish people would explore is the that the Tyranids are not a "race" at all, and should not be referred to in the plural: The Tyranid is an organism. One single organism on an incomprehensible scale, which is composed of complex motile organisms in much the same way that a human is composed of cells. Even bioforms as huge, complex and tactically significant as a hierophant biotitan are, from the Tyranid's perspective, just corpuscles. It is one single beast. An intergalactic amoeboid. To try and refer to it as a "species" is to make the fatal mistake of trying to compare it to humans. It is nothing so wholesome, nor so identifiable. It is the Predator of Galaxies, the biological Von Neumann Machine that will devour all the universe before starving to death. And it is either already far too vast to defeat, or it is now on the very edge of failure and extinction: there can be no middle ground.

[@jakegray1723]

The only good nid take in this comment section

[@fencepostlamb3260]

There true name is the hive mind because the nids aren’t a species the name tryanids goes to the cells in the body of the endless monster like you don’t call human cells human no you call them cells do you understand

[@Novafire194]

This was basically confirmed in the novel "The Devastation of Baal" The tyrannids aren't animals. They're *AN* Animal.

[@hishamkhan2110]

NEEEERRRRDDD!!!!!!!😂😂

[@riograndedosulball248]

And all the hive being composed of genetically identical individuals means that if anything can get the cells "sick", it can kill the whole body It's biological warfare time babyyy

[@christopherg2347]

When a demon prince says "No Cockroach is stealing my kill." And helps you, you know you are fucked

[@SleepyFeeshy]

If WH40K isn't the slowest moving space opera in all of history, I don't know what is! Feels like it will take years for them to resolve any plots or move things forward in a meaningful way.

[@kraigisboss]

It took like an IRL decade to move the Cadia plot forward which in the universe the fall of Cadia happened in a year.

[@MrQuantumInc]

There has been hundreds of books set in the universe, but events that actually change the galaxy at large are extremely rare. They like to establish the sense that the Empire could be destroyed at any moment but they cannot let the empire or any of the factions threatening the empire be completely defeated; doing so would mean the end of the war. With any story, you either end it or you don't. The third option is to change things but eventually it would become a very different story and you might lose your established audience.

[@kamaeq]

Add in the fact that GW retcons lore willy nilly to cover up for past blunders or just make a pence more next quarter.

[@LewisB3217]

A few years ago they advanced the plot 200 years lol

[@someaussieguy140]

​@@MrQuantumIncNot to mention all the physical miniatures tied to these in universe factions. As long as people are still buying the little plastic soldiers, none of the 40k factions are going anywhere.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

I honestly can’t wait to see Lt. Titus fight Tyranids. Edit: It was absolutely glorious.

[@louis5362]

I'd like to see Christopher Titus fight the Tyranids

[@andreykuzmin4355]

Aka "Absolute Mad Lad 2: The Synaptic Boogaloo"

[@Tortle-Man]

God I hope that game is good.

[@GrassesOn97]

*Captain

[@Michael.Virtus]

@@GrassesOn97 He was Captain, but he was demoted to Lieutenant.

[@TheGallantDrake]

Calling it now: the end of Leviathan will come not at the hands of the Imperium, but from Chaos itself. The Great Game must come to a pause if the gods’ food is under threat.

[@mr.revrac5602]

Leviathan is not going to get destroyed, they are the ultramarines of Tyranids

[@TheGallantDrake]

@@mr.revrac5602 end does not equate destruction. If leviathan were to be shattered in some way, rendered unable to coordinate, it would be far less dangerous.

[@theenigmaencoder92]

To be fair to nids, their end game is actually fairly stable if you just tweak it a bit. Biomass is a catch all term for 'easy to digest'. Canonically they can devourer the rock of planets and gas of stars too. They don't pause for that stuff, and now actively avoid it, because that's where they are weakest. They don't want the biomass only, they're after the matter, and that's actually something almost any faction short of Chaos and the Orks will eventually be after, the bugs just went first. Lots of options are possible once they have time to pick the Galaxy clean, but most obvious would be their own version of a swarm of red dwarf dyson swarms, which I think is called a Kepler Swarm? I forget though. Eventually, this collective masses into a black hole, but between their massive psychic powers to tap the warp for even more power to top off their galaxy+ of material to work with, hunger is the least of their worries as they have an effectively infinite energy supply. Combined with their canonical gravity control ships in the Nautilus vessels, even without warp travel they effectively turn the Milky Way into a mobile swarm galaxy hub, protected inside a galaxy mass black hole that only they can ever leave, and simultaneously will always have energy sources for them to consume. Hell, take it on long term, and so long as they keep tapping the warp for extra power, it's a plan that can survive the heat death of the universe, and continue to rescue the bits of the universe even in the end, dragging it atom by atom into the swarm ball and reversing entropy by applying warp power. Viewed this way, the Tyranids are just a biological super AI trying to escape the death and save as much of the universe as it can with it.

[@Alzir-n9m]

A fantastic cosmic eldritch horror interpretation of the Tyranids... Too bad Games Workship will never write a story half as interesting, because gotta sell those SPEESH MAREENS

[@coreyaude6781]

[Calls Local Inquisition] Lord Inquisitor? I think I found the Genestealer Cult Leader. Yes, I'll hold for exterminatus.

[@randomidoit9605]

Have the Tyranids tried to farm yet?

[@kraigisboss]

@@randomidoit9605 Yes there is a swarm doing that though I forget the name and it's using that farmed biomass to construct a giant biological tower of unknown purpose.

[@adalsal816]

​@@kraigisbossTiamet is what your looking for.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

The Strategic Collective estimate that mobilisation levels will need to be increased by a minimum of 500% -- effectively including every able-bodied man, woman, and child on every world in Segmentums Solar, Obscurus and Tempestus -- to have even a hope of stopping the Tyranids...

[@VictorIV0310]

If every single bullet, artillery shell and laser in the galaxy was fired and all hit a Tyranid, it will still not be enough.

[@SuperAerie]

Ah, more on the tyranids. The big menace that just ended up just... being there.

[@visitingforgefather5997]

Yeah, the hyper evolving terror...that for some reason is still harmed by the weapons used by a technologically stagnant Imperium it has fought for many years.

[@Stahlvanten]

@@visitingforgefather5997 Impact trauma is impact trauma.

[@Sirdinosaur1104]

@@visitingforgefather5997 technically if what they said at the end of the video is true, it would be wasted resources to evolve resistances when it is just using the other fleets as “research”

[@visitingforgefather5997]

@@Sirdinosaur1104 Yet for some reason they made an exception for the Tau?

​@@visitingforgefather5997 wasn't the Tau able to create a virus that could defeat the certain fleet that invaded them? Maybe the tyranids argue that its wasteful to kill them when there are easier prey to grow stronger on?

[@pendragon0905]

We cannot get out. The shadows move in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming. They are here.

[@evilspoon5280]

I see what you did there. lol

[@CBRN-115]

Man this is terrifying

[@JACKAL98]

Lotr

[@yxx_chris_xxy]

The empire dug too deep...

[@mikhailmikhaylov1862]

"They're here." That sent goosebumps down my back.

[@marcusgodfrey4061]

Leviathan is terrifying, however: The Gaz is leading a 5 million strong ork WAGH! Constantine Valdor is at the head of a giant loyalist daemon army The necrons are waking up Angron is at the head of a huge world eater fleet Who knows what Vastor is doing And the emperor has woken up Nothing is lost, it's only just beginning

[@Qurosia]

He has woken?

[@marcusgodfrey4061]

The emperor has woken, he set nurgles realm on fire

[@catcadev]

I do hope after the fourth Tyrannic War wraps up we get a new hive fleet with a new strategy. It's so cool seeing each one get beat back and a new one take its place in the lore and model range. It does make them feel like they're evolving! I hope as well that the next one barrels into another faction, or, heck, at the Eye of Terror. Abbadon and Chaos have to fight off the Tyranids for once.

[@Kyla-Stormhazard]

I just love the idea of new Cadia watching the new, even bigger fleet of Tyranid dive into the eye of terror

[@limeyndixie]

Given the Tyranids’ ability to adapt, if we get a FOURTH fleet that’s further evolved to fight the Milky Way factions, it’ll probably be so lethal there wouldn’t even be a proper war. Just a centuries-long massacre slash feeding frenzy.

[@jenniferlumiqued]

Can we make a petition to make GW make the name of the next really big and powerful hive fleet gojira?

[@catcadev]

@@limeyndixie I mean they can adapt sure but the myriad factions are simply too much for any hive fleet to truly specialize against lest they get stomped by the others.

[@catcadev]

@@Kyla-Stormhazard I KNOW. I want friggin Abbadon to get a hive fleet in the rump now dude

[@laststand6420]

"You think the galaxy is finished now?... Just wait until that which hunts hive fleets arrives." - Gnosticum Mahorious of the mechanicums fourth intergalactic observatory.

[@christophertryhorn784]

Going to be interesting to see what happens when the Silent King wakes all of the Necrons and aims them at the tyranids

[@avinashtyagi2]

In the long run, then Tyranids would win. There is too much biomass in the galaxy as a whole for the Necrons to stop the Tyranids. Best Necrons could do is slow them down

[@odyssey958]

@@avinashtyagi2 They could do a whole lot of slowing. Tyranids literally cannot win an engagement against Necron, they might destroy a tomb world, but Necron weapons obliterate matter, leaving no trace of biomass behind for the Hive to recover, and the Tyranids can't consume Necrodermis. This is why Tyranid fleets actively avoid Tomb Worlds when on the hunt.

[@avinashtyagi2]

@@odyssey958 They avoid because there is no gain, not because they cannot win. Winning merely requires them to destroy the Necron forces, very doable, the problem for Tyranids is that the resources used up would not be replenished. As a result they prefer to avoid.

[@odyssey958]

@@avinashtyagi2 Exactly, there is no possible victory for Tyranids engaging Necron forces.

[@avinashtyagi2]

@@odyssey958 No, a victory without gain is not the same as no possible victory. Victory is very much possible, it just wouldn't be a profitable victory.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

"Is this gonna be a straight fight, Sir, or just another bug-hunt?"

[@Dark_Tesla]

Each time I come across a lore segment on Leviathan specifically, it’s somehow more terrifying than the last.

[@geofff.3343]

My headcanon is that the Tyranids were created by the last of the Old Ones as a last middle finger to the Necrons and an unhinged method of defeating Chaos. If they consume all life the Necrons are stuck in their shells forever, unable to die, but only able to fight one another over nothing. Chaos dies because neither Necrons or Tyranids nourish the ruinous powers.

[@Ulmaramlu]

This is why I play nids. Great video! Just one error: @ 12:31 should be saying Leviathan, not Behemoth.

[@Kimi-uk6lf]

Nice, hoping you cover all the hive fleets too!

[@Bismuth83X]

Gotta love how, in a setting where humanity's in space all the time, they had an alien invasion show up right in the middle of their turf because they forgot that space is 3D.

[@90kalos1]

Just started my Tyranids army. Leviathan will consume all

[@jenniferlumiqued]

I started mine to, named it gojira, eaten a couple of worlds

[@willharkness8052]

Not if the Iron Warriors can help it. Iron within, Iron without.

[@90kalos1]

@@willharkness8052 their biomass will be consumed and added to our own

[@willharkness8052]

@90kalos1 Untrue. The Iron has endured for millennia, despite the universes attempts at destroying us. Also, we know the Great Devourers greatest weakness.

[@90kalos1]

@@willharkness8052 to be fair I'm more of a necron player. So in the end the winner is irrelevant as all you kids need to hippity hoppity get off my property

[@mingchoi8369]

You know it's a bad sign when Chaos suddenly intervenes on behalf of the Space Marines just because they want the honor of destroying them first. And with the Fourth Tyrannic War erupting, I can only imagine if Necrons, Eldar, Tau, and even the Leagues of Votann will suddenly get involved. Anyway, I hope you'll do the other Hive Fleets somewhere down the line.

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

And since all the Tyranid armadas attacked from different sides of the galaxy... like whales tearing at a school of krill, even Leviathan might not be the true force of the alien threat... but simply another battering ram meant to break the gates while the true force still awaits in the dark.

[@christopherholmes7324]

Good point! Still very scary 😨

[@MinhVo-ig7no]

What if Terra daily massive psychic release is extremely harmful to the Tyrannid species so they’re sending forces trying to shut it down? But along the way they need organic substances to remain alive, they attacked other planets and thus started the human-tyrannid war? What if their intention was just to politely asking Terra to stop flashing psychic light into their faces but was misunderstood for being the bad guys?

[@ryankoh917]

Inquisitor, this Cultist right here

[@nepspartan-7597]

@@ryankoh917 Yeah, this guy looks a little off. Sending word for a kill team to deal with the genestealer cult

[@scw5098]

“Think of my actions as you will, but do not doubt the reality. The Great Devourer is here, and we are unable to stop it.”

[@clemguitarechal]

That was great, thanks a lot for this vid ; feels good to hear about Wh40K lore in such a way. Cheers !

[@TheBattleCodex]

If the Tyranids caused this much damage in the milky way, I can't imagine what is to come lurking beyond the milky way. They are truly a space horror threat.

[@AlphaDu-wp2nb]

Imperium: How did you find us when theres like a million other galaxies? Tyranids: hmmm i wonder whats that JIANT PHYSIC BEACON SPITTING OUT NAVIGATION SIGNALS ACROSS THE GALAXY doing there?

[@tylerstewart3181]

I have a feeling Papa Nurgle is pretty upset that Tyranids are consuming bacteria as well.

[@leramar]

The Necrons are a hard counter to the 'Nids and they don't want their only way to potentally return to life being gobbled up by a bunch of space bugs.

[@headcrabo..2301]

I don’t think the necrons are enough though, the silent king did say that he needed to awake his entire race AND unite with the other races to stand a supposed chance to hold the tyranids back.

[@wedgeantillies66]

Wow, that end line was sufficiently chilling and depressingly horrific though that would send a shiver down the spine of any in the imperium. If true, it would make the Tyrannids, the most dangerous threat to and probable cause of the empire's eventual destruction, being the one enemy they face that gets harder and harder to defeat with every successive invasion of their territory..

[@dalel3608]

Sounds like the Imperial Fleet needs to borrow some Tau Ether Drives to get around the hive fleets blocking of warp travel.

[@attalan8732]

The irony of the WH40k universe, unlike the Warhammer Fantasy universe, is that the Chaos Gods aren't even the worst threat to the Empire.

[@grex951]

In 40k years did humanity forget the advent of bugspray? Eh. Seems likely.

[@gameoveror7970]

Bugspray is tech heresy

[@Lightscribe225]

Problem with bugspray, the bugs spray back.

[@MrQuantumInc]

Exterminatus is basically the process of spraying an entire planet; and as the video said they have been doing that more than ever.

[@Tank50us]

@@Lightscribe225 They also adapt, so the first can of raid you use on them will get to be the only can you ever use on them because it'll never work again.

[@thetimebinder]

Externinatus is the big spray, but it's like nuking your house in order to get rid of bed bugs. Completely understandable.

[@enoughothis]

One of the most terrifying theories regarding the Tyranids is that they are running from something, rather than just coming to the Milky Way to feed they are fleeing from a predator even more horrible than themselves...

[@dakkenblah1450]

I prefer the theory of them being created by the old ones as a giant fuck the universe reset button

[@enoughothis]

@@dakkenblah1450, that's my favorite one. The Tyranids were supposedly designed as a firebreak or failsafe by the Old Ones, to stop the Necrons and C'tan

[@Kyla-Stormhazard]

​@@enoughothisI thought the eldar and orks were the failsafe they created against the necrons.

[@enoughothis]

@@Kyla-Stormhazard, they were the armies the Old Ones fought the war with, the Tyranids may have been made to save as much of the galaxy as possible by "steering" the rapacious C'tans away populated planets the Old Ones cared about. Additionally the Tyranids retain the genetic signature of every lifeform they consume, in theory this would make them a gene-bank of sorts allowing the Old Ones to repopulate the galaxy after the dust settled. In a sense the Tyranids were the Halo arrays and the Ark all in one.

[@thetimebinder]

And that each hivefleet is just a tendril of one even more massive fleet.

[@dustinlowe6452]

Man it really seems like the tyranids are gonna just wipe out humanity.

[@Skydive20991]

You know that the situation is fucked up with no alternative that even humans decide to cooperate with chaos

[@naus9067]

Very good work, one of most interesting materials about warhammer I've ever seen.

[@mho...]

check out the Loremaster "Luetin09" if you want 40k deepdives! Templin barely scratches the surface!

[@MoltenUprisingMK]

With every defeat, the Tyranids learn. With every victory, they grow. Either way, it seems like the rest of the galaxy's forces are hard-pressed to stop them.

[@hippi0284]

this is just an open question but is The Octarius War is still going in a sea of blood and violence, or have the Octarius system being reduced to a couple of pockets of Ork resistances against the Hive Fleet Leviathan, or have the Hive Fleet Leviathan won the war??? (Edit: I will definitely like to see a Templin Institute Analysis/Documentary/Details and current state on The Octarius War)

[@artydean9892]

Leviathan won outright

[@GaldirEonai]

There's some holdouts but no single ork has been able to claim the title of Overfiend again after the last one got eaten, which means they now spend as much time or more krumpin' each other than the bugs.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

The Leviathan Swarmlord ate the Overfiend's brain. Everything he knew, the Hivemind knows.

[@comandercarnis]

Damn, last time I was this early the eldar still had an empire.

[@burger_person115]

Huh, I wonder why a hive mind which is basically a superpowerful warp god is directing all its forces at the galaxy’s largest lighthouse

[@Phil-D83]

Warp based weapons to send them into the warp would end this problem real quick.

[@colvamoon6962]

Don't they negate the warp? That would be like if you tried to nuke you enemy, but they can send a pulse that renders it inert.

[@JunkPhuJP]

Interesting idea, but I can imagine Nurgle would see this hyper evolving and constantly adapting biological creature next to nigh immune to chemical and biological threats and think “Challenge Accepted”

[@adam_clown]

Using Warp based weapons has issues on itself already… and that’s by using the Warp.

[@comandercarnis]

​@@JunkPhuJPthe last time his servants played that game it fucked up a world so bad that neither the nids could eat it nor could the death guard conquer it because the environment became to toxic it melted them.

[@comandercarnis]

​@@colvamoon6962nah the shadow in the warp blocks out warp transmissions and disrupts daemons connection to the warp however the nids themselves aren't immune to warp fuckery.

[@benjamincollins4276]

The Tyranids are nothing compared to the might of the Necrons. The Silent King shall see the Hive Mind on a pike before this millenia is done. Their biomass collection shall serve as the basis for the Necrontyrs return to flesh.

[@astrofpv3631]

Based and necronpilled

[@TheCJUN]

Tyranids vs Necron. Bio supremacy vs technological mastery.

[@ateidmon9835]

the imperium of man will die if they keep doing the old strat of throwing men into the problem until it gets solved. Tyranids will not run out of numbers, they can even outnumber the mushroom boyz

[@Kaiju-Driver]

One of my favorite factions, and in my opinion...the end game boss.

[@nothappyboi9453]

“There’s a light brother in the far distance!”

[@ThePalaeontologist]

*_Steps on a bug_* _I'M DOING MY PART!_ [would you like to know more?]

[@Tank50us]

*giant cockroach appears behind you* You might have stepped on his Aunty...

[@ThePalaeontologist]

@@Tank50us Wrong film lol

[@Tank50us]

@@ThePalaeontologist Oh, I know. That was intentional.

[@ThePalaeontologist]

@@Tank50us [whispers] I know too

[@phil3751]

Chaos is probably the best answer to the nids, Kabanda was able to temporarily kill the entire hive mind with a psykic assualt, (it recovered but it was the worst it had ever been hurt) imagine if all 4 chaos gods get concerned their favorite galaxy is gonna get nommed, their combined psykic tomfoolery would shatter the shadow in the warp like glass

[@thomassaxon8254]

Not Kabanda. It was the Great Rift opening that did that. If that's what it takes to temporarily hurt the Hive Mind then the galaxy cannot afford to actually kill it through psychic means.

[@headcrabo..2301]

It wasn’t kabanda, it was the rift opening across the galaxy that temporarily shut it off. Also tyranids are a hard counter to chaos, just look at the fall of shadowbrink where the combined efforts of the chaos gods got bodied TWICE. Tyranids don’t have souls, no substance for chaos just like how no biological substance from chaos.

[@phil3751]

@@thomassaxon8254 the destruction of just one planet and it's warp canceling pylons (why cadia stood for so long) was enough to cause irreparable damage to the hive mind Remember pretty much the entire galaxy should be one giant eye of terror after so much warp nonsense, if chaos gets serious and knows where more pylons are... Also there is a scene in the Short Story "shadow of leviathan" where the God Emperor's light overpowers the hive mind. We don't know how much power the hive mind was putting in, but we know it is less hamstrung than the emperor fighting all 4 chaos gods and committing countless other miracles on a daily basis, and also felt actual hate towards Tigerius and wanted to assassinate him, so we may assume reasonablely it was trying real hard

[@thomassaxon8254]

@phil3751 not irreparable. It was damaged but did heal back. Everyone was hurt by the Great Rift including Chaos. And the Great Rift opening was due to more than just Cadia. It was also due to the other events like Magnus doing his thing and the bloodbath causing a psychic backlash from the Tyranid invasions. At the end of the day it's Warhammer the story is always going to be fluid on relative power levels. But that said the Hive Mind is always going be more powerful purely due to the number of minds it has.

[@mr.revrac5602]

Have you even read devestation of baal? You really should read a boom before making idiotic summaries of events.

[@ElysiumCreator]

12:31 The Institute made a bit of blunder here, shouldn’t it say Leviathan, even the subtitles do 🤓

[@TemplinInstitute]

like a Genestealer perfectly awaiting the moment to strike, you have slipped through our defenses and found a critical weakness. You are correct, and this error may yet spell doom for the entire Institute.

[@delta9-87]

@@TemplinInstitute OOF

[@ElysiumCreator]

@@TemplinInstitute Ironically enough, I put the wrong timestamp down :/

[@tomfromtoonami3269]

God, I can't wait for Space Marine 2

[@Girafe_Overlord]

Me too, Brother.

[@loktar1234]

Yet Cadia still stands, and we shall tame the Tyranids when Space Marine II is introduced. Side question, does anyone know what the glowy spiraling construct at the end of Space Marine II new gameplay, is it like a giant tendril?

[@akmalhafiz8763]

I'm thinking that the hivemind is a God from another galaxy that currently make it's way into the milky way Galaxy.

[@deamnis]

hope chaos is a big player in 10th edition against the nids, would make sense that the chaos gods would want to keep their food source (humans) alive

[@mr.revrac5602]

The chaos gods are self sustaining, they dont care about the universe. Chaos is a far greater threat to both the Tyranids and the imperium than vis versa

[@DABViktor]

Thank you the Video and the English subtitle.

[@patcowley6378]

Tyranid's chill is zero...

[@seddybear]

that this point i dont think even big E coming back would solve anything

[@orange8420]

Necrons laughing in boomer on nids

[@bazerger6258]

Did he misspeak at 12:31?

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Another great video as always!

[@Robert_Douglass]

I know what Eric Cartman would be saying right about now in response 😂

[@hectorelderflower219]

Templin Institute ~ is an investigation on the martial state still in the Works and not abandoned I hope it's the former, nevertheless please let us know the truth of the matter. Thank you love your channel, you guys are awesome. 100%

[@Lulu-ex7fc]

12:31 Did you mean Leviathan?

[@appo9357]

Where’s the Queen of Blades when you need her?

[@alphadios2003]

It's not wise to mention StarCraft content on a Warhammer40k video or thread. It makes the basement dwelling fatso virginity activate. I can already hear the "ackweeally..." speech starting.

[@geraldhuff7413]

Let’s be perfectly honest with our self’s here. the only way the 40k galaxy is going to survive the tyranids is if all other factions ban together to beat them.

[@Nickname-hier-einfuegen]

I think the Necrons would have a chance alone, if they fully awake. 1. They have the most advanced technology in the galaxy. 2. They are not organic, so Tyranids can't consume them and can't improve themselves based on their DNA. 3. While Tyranids can breed fast, Necrons literally can't die. Damaged or destroyed Necrons teleport back to their tomb world for repairs. 4. They don't need the warp for travel and communication. So the warp shadow of the Hive Mind is useless. 5. At full strength, the Necrons first defeated the Old Ones and then literally killed the Star Gods, shattered their souls, captured the shards, and use them as an infinite power source.

[@geraldhuff7413]

@@Nickname-hier-einfuegen not really now don’t get me wrong the necrons would definitely give the tyranids a bloodied nose but a full on nockout punch not so much. 1. Necrons can die it’s just very difficult to do so off one of there tomb worlds because as you mentioned they can just teleport back home when they become damaged enough. But this also means there put at a disadvantage when fighting on there home turf because they aren’t put completely out of the line of fire of the nids. Which means the nids could completely over run there defenses and get at the already weakened defenders and completely destroy them. Which transitions nicely into the next necron weakness. 2. They can not replace lost numbers like the nids can. There is only so many necrons in existence. 3. The necrons gratest feat was defeating the star gods which could only have been achieved by back stabbing them. Do you really think the star gods would have been so easily defeated had they excepted the necrons to betray them? 4. The worst the necrons could visibly do to the tyranids is asset denial by the galaxy from existence with that super weapon of theirs. Which is basically what the fourunnres from halo did to the flood.

[@literalsarcasm1830]

The Tyranids are the single greatest threat to the Galaxy. Not even Chaos compares. You can't have The Great Game without players.

[@mr.revrac5602]

Thats not what devestation of baal says

[@akmalhafiz8763]

What are the chances that Leviathan coming in from below, but another unknown fleet coming in from above?

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

its not that humans cant think in 3d that made the invasion from the bottom so jarring its that every fight so far has been from inside the galaxy, so on the galactic plane warp travel itself, even if it doesnt follow dimensions at all, is still on the galactic plane combine that with intergalactic invasions coming from a diffrent side would mean they would need a very diffrent starting point its not peoples inability to imagine it its that it is unimaginable

[@Phootaba]

It kinda seems like the galaxy is going to be eaten from all angles by the tyranids, How or what could possibly even dent them?

[@scinary7052]

We don't know much about DAOT Humanity but maybe that stuff could work. Otherwise, the necrons would be the best bet against them.

[@LewisB3217]

If all the hive fleets pushed at once, it’d be over over but luckily the imperium has got pretty decent at fighting them

[@phil3751]

Just fall to chaos, they can't get food from chaos biomass, and we just aren't worth their time

[@someaussieguy140]

For all we know the Tyranids we see could be the last of their race. It's only implied albeit heavily that the Galaxy is surrounded. It's left deliberately vauge both to add to the eldrich mystery of the tyranids and so that GW isn't forced to advance the plot towards the complete destruction of their other factions.

[@davidbuckley2435]

@@scinary7052 Yeah, I was just thinking there that a few tonnes of antimatter would probably settle the Tyranids down for a while. 1 kg of antimatter annihilates 1 kg of regular matter, releasing the euivalent of a little under 43 megatons of TNT. For comparison, the largest nuclear bomb ever detonated (the Tsar Bomba) was in the 50 megaton range. With the proper technology, gathering a few tonnes of antimatter would easily be within the reach of a galactic superpower like the Imperium of Man. The problem is though they don't have that kind of technology, and nobody can research it without the Mechanicus using their internal organs as spare servitor parts.

[@Jcewazhere]

Emperor snaps his finger and dusts the nids. Some force of space marines fights to the queen chamber, kills her, and the hive descends into madness tearing itself apart. Bioweapons/super virus that turns the nid mutation ability to 9001 which destroys them all. Super pheromones turn one of the hive fleets friendly and combined with the rest of the galaxy's might they take out Levi. Ender's Game supergun. Molecular disruption device. Time travel. Some really bad/overdone ways they could end this threat. Would it really be bad to have the nids win though? Let the galaxy as we know it end in the 42nd millennium. It's a big galaxy in both area and time, plenty of room to keep telling stories from before 'the end'. Plus it takes a long time to eat a galaxy, even for an organism nearly as big as said galaxy. Plus plus they could write amazing stories about/during the fall.

[@Jcewazhere]

Oh, I forgot about the necrons. Literal deus ex machina right there. Machines from the star gods/ctan.

[@emilianomerendino3311]

Amazing work as usual

[@dontyouhaveacomrade1585]

Well, to defeat the Tyranids..everbody will have to unite

[@tnh723]

Fermi Paradox mistake: Terra's psychic beacon attrac. Xenos attac

[@M3X164]

I like this man’s voice the best, he has a very narrative tone into his voice 😊

[@countdeville4146]

Ok, but have they tried a huge space-sized can of bugspray with a constant stream of oxygen, promethium and hellfire?

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

I wonder if Neurotyrants could shut down the Ork's power of belief. Could the tyranids make the orkish aircrafts fall from the sky or does the psychic powers of an ork work to differently from a human for that to work?

[@Nicolas3000ful]

It would be an interesting thing to consider as a decicive factor that lead to ther victory against the orcs

[@davidbuckley2435]

I don't *think* there's any difference in psykers from species to species. It just comes down to their personal understanding of their psychic ability. Orcs aren't really aware of their weirdboyz being psychic, they're just y'know, weird. Humans on the other hand understand that psykers have some sort of connection to the warp, even if most don't fully understand the extent of the link. But at the end of the day, there's no difference between an ork psyker, an eldar psyker or a human psyker. They're all drawing their power from the same source.

[@Dirt1061]

I would love to see which is better/faster at destroying a world, destroyer infected Necons or Tyranids? Also would love to see Flayed Ones wearing nid skin!

[@godemperorofmemekind4170]

Just had a Nid army commissioned as my 5th army :-) hive fleet Lev of course

[@marcusbarboza7805]

Out of curiosity, how would demon engines fair against the hive fleet?

[@paimonisfood4986]

Depends on the Hive Fleet, if it's Cronos then yeah the Tyranids have the advantage.

[@randominternetguy8735]

They would perform excellently. Death Guard daemon engines are resilient and not consumable to Nids, as well as highly resistant to acid-based weaponry. It's likely their rot would affect the Nids pretty bad. Fliers like Heldrakes would be lethal to any airborne specimens, due to their flame-based weaponry. Same goes for Forgefiends, Maulerfiends, Defilers, etc.

[@revolver2750]

Is there a chance if a hive fleet will reach terra that the legions to chaos will deploy to defend it? OR would they think they are safe in the warp and largely don't care.

[@randominternetguy8735]

The legions of Chaos will do one of two things: 1. Take advantage of the disarray and attempt to take over Terra 2. Stay well away, because it's not a good idea to put yourself in the path of a Hive Fleet I would go with 2. and so would all rational Chaos and traitor legions, but you may get the odd few like World Eaters who would love the bloodshed and Alpha Legion up to their usual fuckery.

[@Thoron_of_Neto]

​@randominternetguy8735 I think you've set up a false dichotomy. The main reason I think this is because neither option takes into account that chaos *needs* humanity, and abandoning the imperium to the tyranids means the chaos gods lose the strongest influence on their power within the warp. I think option 3 is that the chaos gods would throw all they have at the tyranids, every daemon, every cultists, every warband, everything. They may not come directly to the defense of Terra, but they will begin to keep the Tyranids from overwhelming it, and allow for the imperium to scrape out a victory, barely, because Chaos' goal isn't to be victorious, it's to feed the war that keeps it in power.

[@randominternetguy8735]

@@Thoron_of_Neto That's true, but you must remember that some traitor Space Marine legions aren't even dedicated Chaos worshippers at all, like the Iron Warriors or Night Lords - caring more about the destruction of the Imperium than sustaining the Dark Gods. Perhaps they could hold some sway.

[@ForbiddenRazor]

The factions of 40k need to work together to fight off the Tyranids. Then go back to fighting each other.

[@maxfieldjoyner5244]

They really gotta do the Dark Angels, especially now that Lion El'Johnson is back.

[@vitrian]

I bet that the tyrannids are the missing 2 Primarchs.

[@chimpthrownoutofaplane3521]

If the flood were allowed to get to a similar state as the Tyranids then could they successfully consume them?

[@terraopg8259]

i am always here for some tyranids !

[@KongGig]

Popcorn time!!

[@thetimebinder]

Pretty damn good trailer for 10th Edition