Why The 6 Weakest Pokemon Could Each Beat a Lion

[@Hmaz]

Are there ANY Pokemon that you think couldn't beat a lion?

[@DaEevster]

Better question is, could a Human beat a Pokemon

[@ivanbluecool]

Magikarp or feebas probably at level 1. Splash would be all they have and would be easy food for anything with strong teeth

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

Caterpie

[@inkyinkfrfr]

mega mewtwo y because it doesn’t exist anymore

[@ShinyHydrapplTheSyrpent]

​@JuanGomez-ke5py in gen 8, caterpie gets electroweb. Logic suggests that if you throw a net-like structure at something, you're essentially capturing and trapping it, but if the net is made of electricity, you're obviously electrocuting whatever gets caught inside. If the lion tries to escape, it would be hurting itself at the same time. Plus if the lion does break free alive, caterpie gets runaway as an ability, and should walk out untouched

[@blueleviathan15]

A lion couldn't even hurt Magikarp since in Pokemon Platinum a bunch of average Magikarp survived an explosion that destroyed an entire lake

[@yesminkhan50]

It can become a missile and survive the impact, so it is a reusable self rocket launcher. A lion ain't beating that.

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

Was just about to mention that lol, glad to know I'm not the only uber-nerd here :p

[@Trixie_Lavender]

Also, Meowth broke his teeth when he tried to eat a Magikarp in season one of the animé. A lion probably has a stronger bite force than Team Rocket's Meowth, but still

[@Dustydank311]

Not to mention magikarp can practically fly

[@yanissantiago5501]

It also has hydro pump in Gen 8

[@Mrblueguy1]

Cosmog in this video: *"UNDER EXTREME STRESS, WITH THIS TREASURE, I SUMMON. ULTRA NECROZMA"*

[@jthunderboldt]

cosmog backed into a corner 'do ya feel lucky punk well do ya'

[@Blazeeditz422]

*proceeds to evaporate*

[@PixelPalettes]

I special summon Ultra Necrozma and end my turn

[@lilharm]

I was expecting the Cosmog reasoning to be “teleport the lion into space” since we know from the games that teleport can transport more than just the Pokemon themself (ie the trainer to a Pokemon center) and based on Abra’s implementation in Super Smash Bros, this can work on nonwilling targets and would ignore arguments of “it’d also die in space once it teleports up there” based on it being a space-native Pokemon

[@Flywnacki]

I happen to know to lions can survive in space, because 1 billion lions could, theoretically beat the sun in a fight.

[@Gianka62]

But what if one lion is affected instead of all 1 billion..?​@@Flywnacki

[@lemonlemon7932]

​@@FlywnackiBut this hypothetical lion is alone and lacks the power of friendship

[@sagacious03]

In the cutscene where Spearow are attacking Lillie, Cosmog's Teleport makes an explosive wave that breaks the wooden bridge planks, so Teleport itself can also be weaponized. Not the strongest, but messing up anything near you & getting away does pretty good against lions.

[@Rot8erConeX]

@@sagacious03 And that wasn't even a Teleport that *succeeded* - Nebby didn't warp away, and you ended up having to be saved from almost-certain death by Tapu Koko.

[@salted3807]

Cosmog is Russian Roulette except there's no empty chamber

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

The empty chamber is it just teleporting the lion into space

[@Shadowind8634]

@@DragonTheOneDZAchamber’s still full

[@The_Apricot]

I mean space is basically nothing, so it's technically empty.​@@Shadowind8634

[@Lego_sun_wukong]

​@@Shadowind8634 the empty chamber is cosmog teleporting away

[@quentonfrancis2616]

⁠@@Lego_sun_wukongI mean, Cosmog’s teleport causes an explosion, so that chamber can be full, just with wood instead of metal.

[@cjlite0210]

Love how the literal infant Pokemon with an Attack stat of 5 can lift things many times its size XD

[@sagacious03]

Happiny can also learn Seismic Toss by Egg Move, which has a name that translates to "Earth Throw", has been described with "Throws the target with enough force to flip the world upside down.", & often shows the target being thrown into space.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

@@sagacious03 Which is its description at level one.

[@sagacious03]

@@GeorgeDCowley No moves change description with level anyway. Plus, the power being level-based contradicts both statements (The move's own description.) AND the move's many animations in pretty much every game. (As well as arguably its original name's implied meaning.) Not to mention, levels are an unreliable metric. You can beat a Level 100 Arceus with Focus Sash, Endeavour Quick Attack Rattata, but that doesn't mean its sensible in canon or debating power levels.

[@Thiefthebat]

It doesn't hurt you directly, you die from the the collision course

[@sagacious03]

@@Thiefthebat Yes, but Newton's Third Law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If Object A acts a force upon Object B, then object B will exert an opposite yet equal force upon Object A. For Happiny to throw something that high, it has to both endure & exert the force to do that onto its body. The fact that Happiny can perform the motions to throw something that far & Happiny survives doing that action, means it can exert such forces & apply it in other ways & survive those. Even if you, a real person, is punching the air, punch hard enough & you can hurt yourself because punching exerts force on yourself, too, not just the empty air you're hitting. (The air being displaced exerts force on you, too.)

[@Kris-The-Protogen]

Lapras with perish song. No winners. No survivors.

[@someonehavinganidentitycrisis]

Whismur?

[@sloowbroo]

Lion Headphones

[@thewindofsuicune]

Powerful, but pretty flawed. Battle field will be loud and the sound will only be heard by so many lions. Better for Lapras to use moves like Surf and Blizzard which can be spammed more easily.

[@not_mtk_alt]

soundproof and good as gold be like:

[@Type_blazenil]

novern as a (imune) signal booster

[@GamingRedBirb]

I mean cosmog DID blow up a bridge in the intro cutscene to protect the player… he has more tricks up his sleeve than just the portals

[@manupm9161]

But that was because the bridge was already very fragile, the explosion was weak enough to not damage the protagonist at all

[@gerald2508]

@@manupm9161 Even ignoring the anime, Poké-world humans are very tough.

[@Pihsrosnec]

​@@gerald2508tough is an understatement, there's a guy that swims around the entire continent daily in one if the games iirc. and he's not even a special character like a gym leader, he's just a random guy going for his morning swim that just so happens to have the cardio of a demigod

[@springles7775]

​@gerald2508 technically humans are pokemon in the pokemon world. There was a time when they were pretty much one in the same.

[@ILiekFishes]

@@gerald2508 So we can't powerscale humans to humans? noted.

[@asterodon]

There are so many scenarios where the Pokemon win that it's not even worth wasting the time debating with someone who genuinely thinks the lions have a chance.

[@devonm042690]

The people who try to argue that the billion lions have a chance deliberately stack the deck against the Pokemon. Let us not forget that one youtuber who 'simulated' the battle, but treated each lion like a pure-normal type Pyroar, and made the battles 1-on-1 but didn't treat the Pokemon like they were all in one big trainer team. By which I mean the Pokemon couldn't set up for each other, and anytime a Pokemon lost, the next in line would be facing the lion the last one lost to in peak condition.

[@DrRachi1]

@@devonm042690 and it would take approximately 66.2 trillion people to fill up the Grand Canyon. if we assume 1 line to be 3 times bigger than a human it takes 22 trillion lions to fill the grand canyon. There is no way anyone believes that one of every pokemon can't destroy 0.005% of the grand canyon

[@tangerinedropper7141]

well it really depebds. if we're going off of canonical power levels, yeah, pokemon win easily, but if we're going off of game mechanics theyd have no chance

[@MelodyLumina]

yeah i mean there's 4 billion spinda, how could you possibly beat that

[@jimkas3606]

​@@devonm042690 Pokémon defenders will use everything but the actual games to to try win

[@sagacious03]

Brock's Happiny is exceptionally powerful. Most Happiny aren't that strong. But lions still die to Happiny. Happiny can learn Seismic Toss by Egg Move, a move with an original Japanese name that translates to "Earth Throw", has been described with "Throws the target with enough force to flip the world upside down.", & has been shown as throwing foes into space. Wild Pokemon can naturally know Egg Moves, as shown by Hidden Pokemon (OR/AS), Island Scan (S/M), Brilliant Pokemon (Sw/Sh), Pokemon in Pokemon Hideaways (BD/SP), & Wild Terastallized & Tera Raid Pokemon in S/V.

[@ctamybeloved777]

For those who have heard of the rod of god theory which is, put simply, “if I launch an iron rod from orbit into a certain position, it will cause a massive explosion due to compressing particles or something (I’m not 100% sure how it works) and make a retrievable and reusable explosive” Magikarp is literally a watered down rod of god weapon.

[@lightningstrike9876]

The explanation is pretty simple. A normal bomb converts Chemical Potential Energy into a high amount of Thermal Energy. A Rod From God does the same thing but uses Gravitational Potential Energy instead.

[@ctamybeloved777]

Yeah that’s a much better way of explaining it, thanks

[@ir4zs]

I can't believe that I'm learning MORE from KZbin than in school. I thought it's supposed to be the other way around. 💀💀💀

[@flamingwolf8753]

​@@ir4zswell if you paid attention in school it would be 💀💀💀

[@lasercraft32]

Answer me this... Why would lions attack a sunflower seed? They are carnivores. They would not expend energy to attack a plant, because it gives them no usable nutrients... Additionally, if the plant started firing solar rays at them, they would STILL not attack it, and would instead opt to just _leave_ or move away from it. Lions aren't mindless killers, survival is their first priority. Like, if a plant started shooting stuff at you, what would YOU do? Probably run away from it. I doubt most people's first instinct would be to get closer and attack it. Not to mention, _Budew_ is ALSO a super weak grass-type Baby Pokemon... Yet it is also a _poison type._ Poisonous plants can kill any lion easily. So yes, even the weakest Pokemon would be able to take on 1 billion lions.

[@metal_pipe9764]

What if you're a vegan?

[@flarefrog]

@@metal_pipe9764 vegan lion..?

[@Zakatakamime]

Well why would a happiny hurt a lion. They are said to mimic Chansey. And Chansey is probably one of the most morally good Pokémon ever. So I doubt happiny would win against a lion.

[@lasercraft32]

@@Zakatakamime Happiny doesn't need to hurt the lion, because all the other Pokemon would do it instead.

[@metal_pipe9764]

@@flarefrog I'm not talking about the lion

[@hungry_rabbit9032]

A wild lion has appeared Cosmog:with this treasure, i summon

[@koghs]

I love how comparing any pokémon to an irl animal ends up as "nuclear bomb vs coughing baby"

[@lasercraft32]

Guess what chuckleheads, Lions can't go in the ocean! Wishiwashi can camp them out in the deeper water and shoot them with relentless water guns, and there's NOTHING they could do about it!

[@metal_pipe9764]

They could kill themselves

[@TheBenchLord]

Lion Warship

[@gerald2508]

@@TheBenchLord Wailord with Clawitzer (any fish would work but why not go for the artillery shrimp). Or one Sharpedo.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@gerald2508or one dragalge melting the ship’s hull

[@gerald2508]

@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 or a Jellicent that wants safari decor.

[@Jaxolotl31]

"snom is pathetic in battle" my one can use hyper beam

[@Jaxolotl31]

(no joke)

[@emeglebon2468]

snom cannot learn hyper beam so you are, in fact, joking

[@Ashera5469]

It's probably hacked imo

[@abluefishh8402]

​@@Jaxolotl31(yes joke)

[@dannattack4211]

I’m so happy someone is finally standing up for us on the Pokemon side of the debate. You really can’t just explain it away like everything will follow the standard Pokemon battle rules

[@VannyBeumer]

Even if it followed standard rules lions lose.

[@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe]

​@@VannyBeumerLion Nuke

[@chonflis3834]

The only strat where lions win is to flip flop between rulesets when its most convenient for you

[@gerald2508]

@@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe Eternatus.

[@VannyBeumer]

@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe wide guard

[@DecoyZ]

Lion defenders will nerf Pokémon constantly "No anime" "Pokédex doesn't count" But they lose anyways because of Kyoger, Rayquaza and of course the Dark and Light twins Gyratina and Palkia (I forgot how to spell their names) Because IN THE GAMES ON SCREEN THEY SHOW ABILITIES THAT WOULD WIPE OUT 1 BILLION LIONS

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

Necrozma could probably cause an extinction even by itself just by consuming the sun. Life on Earth isn’t sustainable without the sun.

[@chaoticcar6231]

pokemon defenders will complain while lion supporters be lion jacketing

[@gerald2508]

@@chaoticcar6231 Get Scizor’ed.

[@3rTy00]

I don't think You're talking about the "dark and light twins" with the space god and the god of antimatter

[@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe]

Lion Kill-All-Pokemon Machine

[@yonas136]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Sunkern Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Lion : 844-996 (262.9 - 310.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[@prof.reuniclus21]

Love this calc

[@ctamybeloved777]

You forgot solar power boost

[@yonas136]

@@ctamybeloved777 i'm not aware of the lion's speed tier but I assume it's able to outspeed and ohko a sunkern so imo chlorophyle is mandatory here

[@ctamybeloved777]

You’re right actually, but what if the sunkern is like 30 levels than the lions fr

[@prof.reuniclus21]

@@ctamybeloved777 To make it a fair fight they’d probably all be at level 100

[@yalebass]

9:54 happiny is always reminds me that pokemon aren’t animals, they are war gods

[@devonm042690]

One of every Pokemon vs a billion lions. Groudon uses Precipice Blades, Kyogre uses Origin Pulse, every fire type Pokemon uses Heat Wave, every electric type Pokemon uses Shockwave, every flying type Pokemon uses Hurricane, Mimikyu uses Let's Snuggle Forever one the one lion that miraculously survives all that.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Don’t forget Torkoal’s Eruption!

[@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe]

Lions use Lion UFO to abduct the little pokemon and feast upon their flesh Other lions use Lion Nuke to pick off the weaker ones Other other lions use Lion atheism, nullifying all the gods Last lions use Lion Ladder to finish it off with styler Foolproof plan.

[@jthunderboldt]

@@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe and then the lions are swamped by one of every pattern spinda appearing

[@ImPrettySureThisIsMax]

It’s all fun and games until Sunkern grows into a flower and absorbs the human souls

[@TheGr8Mimikaius]

That sounds like a nightmare! Perhaps, even... Your BEST Nightmare?

[@apples6684]

"Nooo you're supposed to obey me!" Lion form of seven human souls:

[@what-un4yq]

Something additional to note, the Magikarp one. The mere act of leaping into the air that high. Would obliterate anything in front of it. Including a lion trying to pounce. Pokémon can likely canonically handle that. A lion which is bound by real world physics not so much.

[@maravreloaded]

It's ridiculous to think that a bunch of lions can be a challenge for Eldrich Gods like ZA HANDO a.k.a Eternatus Eternamax. Or even the most average route pokemon can be a nuclear warfare with moves like Hyper Beam. Just a bunch of Eevees clean at least 1000 lions. And that's if the lions are fast enough.

[@el_perro2436]

Cosmog is also heavy as hell, and if it rammed into a lion, the lion would be pulverized.

[@devonm042690]

Cosmog is tied with Gastly and Haunter for the lightest Pokemon. _Cosmoem_ is heavy as hell.

[@NetullaGD]

It taking about cosmoem

[@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe]

Lion Body Builder to lift it

[@ZeroDarkness-]

Ghost type alone is enough Use Confuse Ray to make lion attacking each other or sucker punch them Since lion definitely will be normal type and normal type can't hit ghost type 😂

[@SantiagoZelarayan-h6m]

but bite is a dark type move tho

[@13ilikeyay]

​@@SantiagoZelarayan-h6m Damn, I knew i could always bite ghosts

[@christiancinnabars1402]

The whole lion vs Pokemon debate is like if people argue that 1 billion lions could defeat the Z-Fighters. "Iunno, Bruce Lee wouldn't be able to beat a lion, so how is Krillin going to be able to if he's shorter and lighter?" or "Bergamo is a wolf, which are a lot smaller than lions, so each lion would have to be stronger than Bergamo."

[@Ri-Dye]

Yeah but there are a billion of them so the Pokemon lose

[@adrher1999]

@@Ri-Dye A billion isn't enough, to be fair. A googol, though, a googol lions win easily

[@Baby_blue9]

​@@Ri-Dye the pokemon with god in the backpack:

[@jthunderboldt]

@@Ri-Dye how many diffrent forms of sapinda are there again?

[@-perry]

If a billion Lions can’t beat the Z-Fighters, they’re definitely not beat 1025 monsters

[@ivanbluecool]

Pichu alone could probably just stun them with thunder wave to outrun or feast upon for days. They are basically tiny animals with super powers

[@sloowbroo]

1 billion is a lot tho

[@HarshathVenkatesan]

@@sloowbroo just use 1 hit KO moves and the lions don't stand a chance. That doesn't even matter though when mythical and legendary pokemon exist.

[@Engieanimations]

even metapod can kill lmao sure it cant learn anything by just getting levels but it can learn ELECTROWEB from a TM like bro a lion is not gonna be able to get through an electroweb it will probably fall over and die from getting electrocuted

[@ivanbluecool]

@@sloowbroo discharge is aoe so it'd hit everyone

[@ivanbluecool]

@@Engieanimations harder is the only thing needed. They try to bite. Harden. Break mouth

[@Guckinater]

"In the black and white pokedex..." *proceeds to show a platinum dex entry*

[@Triforce1018]

8:20 Hey! That lion is wearing headphones!

[@Welkompunch]

I was gonna make that joke bru

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

This video has taught me something Pokemom really clear through irl animals like lions

[@adarshmohapatra5058]

Not surprised, I always thought of pokemon as irl animals with powers. It's like pairing humans vs superheroes. Also they're just impossible. You can't have an irl turtle that can squirt infinite water, or as much water as they show in pokemon. Same with all the elements

[@Ri-Dye]

Yeah but the pokemon would lose because a billion is a lot

[@adarshmohapatra5058]

@Ri-Dye if you paired up a billion humans against superman, would he lose?

[@WestGarbage6]

@@adarshmohapatra5058 No, but now if it was a billion LIONS...

[@DrakeOFlame-u1z]

@@Ri-Dyeone of the Pokémon created the universe he could just spawn thousands of suns on the lions

[@lopendebank3613]

Cosmog might be able to teleport inside the Lion doing internal damage

[@GeorgeDCowley]

But that might also kill it.

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

Or it could just teleport the lion. It can teleport other people

[@Mischievous_Moth]

Teleport it to SPACE!

[@mahapatrasohamm]

@@Mischievous_MothI think everyone is forgetting that if cosmog wanted to destroy earth, it would just use its weight. Like I know Pokédex entrées are kinda crazy but if we are going but what it says, cosmog literally weights a lot. Like if it finely tuned it’s gravity or special ability to float, it could crush a lion to death, if not a few hundreds

[@gerald2508]

@@mahapatrasohamm That is Cosmoem.

[@Finleys_snek]

Lanturn solos a billion lions. Because the funny thing about lanturn, is that if it actually existed... It would instantly collapse into a black hole that's larger than the obserable universe.

[@That_Gamer716]

How?

[@Finleys_snek]

@@That_Gamer716 To put it simply, there are several ways of making a black hole. One of the ways you can do it involves concentrating a ton of energy in a really small space. These black holes are reffered to as Kugelblitz. Lanturn's pokedex entry states that the light it emits can be seen 5 kilometers beneath the ocean's surface. For this statement be true, Lanturn would need to emit 10^105 Watts. To put that into perspective, that's move than the amount of energy than the sun will release in it's entire lifetime.

[@That_Gamer716]

@@Finleys_snek oh my good lord, what the hell. I thought it was just a goofy ahh lamp 💀

[@Finleys_snek]

@@That_Gamer716 Yeah, it's pretty absurd!

[@BrokieTheJokie]

Cool

[@fruit3193]

Here’s a fun one: Wynaut. Counter spam until the lion basically faints itself.

[@stonechestplate928]

lore: pokemon win easily in game, all at once: pokemon still win (SPREAD MOVES) in game, single battle, each lion and pokemon go one on one, see how many lions each and every pokemon can kill, no items (eg. leppa berries): lions (although theoretically pokemon stand a chance) pokemon win idk what these lion people are on about

[@anilaisor]

Lore: maybe Arceus if in the pokemon world but i dont think he has juristiction of the multiverse any other universe lets hope he has enough PP in game, all at once: you dont know how many the spread move can hit and it sure as shit isint the billion lions, because if it was every time any pokemon uses earthquake or surf or any other move the entire region would be in shambles in game single battles: there isint enough hours in a day to have the amount of battles by the time half of the lions are dead some pokemon would have to have killed 500 thousand lions if not more to even have a chance to break even now a lot of lions will die and even if they win will be because of exaction and spread moves hitting multiple pokemons as well even if not by their own merit lions win

[@Johnnysonboykidguymale]

​@@anilaisor For Lore, Gardevoir can canonically create blackholes, I don't think the lions will survive that Pokemon Sapphire Pokedex entry Gardevoir has the psychokinetic power to distort the dimensions and create a small black hole. This Pokémon will try to protect its Trainer even at the risk of its own life. Also for lore, if it also includes moves being accurate to their names, then Eruption instantly wins, lions cannot survive a volcano erupting in their face

[@gerald2508]

@@Johnnysonboykidguymale It is worth noting that it can only do this once, but Pokémon have teamwork so someone else will win.

[@gerald2508]

@@anilaisor Forget Rayquaza, what do the lions do to Drifblim? Also if we go by lore then the lions kill each other.

[@anilaisor]

@@Johnnysonboykidguymale neither can the pokemon as i said they aint wining by their own merit but by the time the black hole or the vulcano killed all the lions pokemon have been long gone lets say gardevoir makes a black hole that she can manage to close so she opens one it kills some lions she closes and moves on by the time she killed a million lions she is exhausted and probably easy prey lets say she makes a black hole she cant control and goes feeding by the time it eats all the lions the pokemon would be dead the lions win by photo finish also Eruption they dont create the vulcano they are the vulcano and sure 100 lions die by the time the pokemon using erupt gets tired, there are many more lions

[@Abner-gu3ve]

There’s no way ppl thought lions are beating Pokemon 😭

[@Ri-Dye]

I don't see you beating a billion lions...

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@Ri-Dye nigga I’m talking about Pokemon beating lions, not myself. Come up with a better counter argument 💀 🤡

[@watashiwaKiraYoshkage]

​@@Ri-Dyebut I can certainly read that he says Pokémon can

[@ericrautio7451]

Cosmog could also drag the lion along in a Teleport and drop it in a volcano or something. (this would also allow it to adhere to the "no outside help" clause that you tacked onto Wishiwashi immediately after having Cosmog summon a random Ultra Beast, btw)

[@aprilhippie8752]

9:40 Ok now hang on that's Brocks Happiny that thing was abnormally powerful any ordinary Happiny can only dream of being that strong.

[@TheFakeChris100]

0:25 Shiny Cosmog!!

[@VannyBeumer]

Yeah, wondered why he did that.

[@TheFakeChris100]

@@VannyBeumer maybe as an easter egg kind of thing (?), some people say its hard to differentiate between a shiny and a normal cosmog :3

[@_Omri]

Nice catch, had me confused trying to catch the differences

[@TheFakeChris100]

@@VannyBeumer (Btw I love your pfp, I like Picrew)

[@KoisSoup]

There’s a whole official mobile game based on training a magikarp to jump, it lives like a week, then you get a new one 😭

[@P.GREYBarnett]

Whoever is debating that lions could win are on copium a single golisopod could body close to 100 lions considering its bst

[@triam6857]

1:19 says the Unovan Pokédex entry while shows a Gen 4 Pokédex entry

[@Samsungor]

Beat me to it

[@tripled2096]

The real debate is 1 billion lions vs all the digimon. They dont know what happens to lions in digimon.

[@arridueldes9843]

Oh god if you think the lions were cooked against the Pokemon...Digimon it gets even worse, you have things that LOREWISE have to have their power sealed to prevent destroying reality.

[@Avian_slime]

​@@arridueldes9843is Digimon just pokémon but if Arceus was average?

[@arridueldes9843]

@@Avian_slime I would not go that far, but it is a lot more overt in the multiversal level for its upper tier beings from what I know.

[@Avian_slime]

@arridueldes9843 let me rephrase that. Digimon is pokémon if most if not all legendaries and mythicals were average and avatar Arceus was high tier. (I don't scale true form and Arceus caps at low complex multi at best)

[@caleblewis8169]

Oh poor leomon

[@SandWitch_of_Ham]

7:48 I got flashed by a lion help

[@The-dog-wearing-a-hoodie]

I think someone definitely got em mused of that and not laughing (if you don’t understand it means they got hard of the lions ball sack)

[@sagacious03]

Sunkern can also win with Earth Power, with TM/TR/Tutors (Which Snom needs for Bug Buzz.): "The user makes the ground under the target erupt with power." It specifies ERUPT & animations show actual erupting & magma. Bringing magma to the surface requires crazy power, & any magma will kill a lion anyway. If Sunkern can apply this power level to its moves & survive such levels in regular life, its doubtful a lion is beating it. Also, Cosmog's teleports "explode" in a way that it can break wood, shown in the cutscene early in S/M, so it can "attack" that way, too. Anyway, fun analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

Each pokelman could beat over an billion lions, most by accident

[@DrRachi1]

idk about ratata tbh

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

Magcargo is literally as hot as the sun Lanturn is literally brighter than the sun Camerupt is also a magcargo Solgaleo is the sun Necrozma is all light in a universe

[@KallieLovesKitties]

@@DragonTheOneDZAany electric type could beat a lion

[@KallieLovesKitties]

@@DragonTheOneDZAso could any fire I think

[@CraigList-gq5lt]

@@DrRachi1Ratata could beat atleast 1 lion with F.E.A.R

[@discothread8082]

3:51 nah snow beat all of Pokémon sword solo. He is op

[@Zakading]

That Journeys scene of Magikarp entering orbit absolutely sent my sides into orbit along with it seeing it the first time back when it aired

[@Marktheweirdone]

One Halloween prank on cosmog can kill anyone probably

[@JimmyGaming-r3r]

4:45 **lion proceeds to roar so loud it can be heard from 5+ miles**

[@maxwellhavoc6996]

Yeah

[@maxwellhavoc6996]

Not 5 miles

[@Jamesguy1023]

I think groudon is weaker then happiny

[@RagingMagikarp]

jokes on ya'll I can beat a lion

[@Finleys_snek]

Hail yeah brother!!!

[@DrRachi1]

@@Finleys_snek let me guess 2nd amendment?

[@Finleys_snek]

@@DrRachi1 Nope. I'm just that powerful.

[@buddeman27]

But like, it's a TRILLION lions, like, you can't even comprehend that number of lions, it's just so many that you can't even imagine the number of lions that are all

[@blapi1120]

1:16 “in pokémon black and white-“ *shows a screenshot of platinum*

[@BiggestEnergy]

Most accurate 1 billion lion vs pokemon argument yet

[@ivojarecky6091]

9:03 Jojo reference

[@Snorlax4106]

I immediately went to the comments when I heard that

[@nickolasperazzo8254]

One thing to consider, is that bst may not be reliable, as for example glameow, a fat cat, is somehow faster than literal jet plane dragons

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

6:43 this isn't true. He only surpasses arceus in stats, but that's only an avatar of arceus. We have no idea what actual arceu's stats are.

[@soon-ish_the_second]

Can someone please tell us who would win the 1,000,000,000 pokemon fans vs the shower?

[@WasThisMail]

you know if this is the type of content I can expect to see from you consistently in the future I’m not too pressed about losing your shorts content this stuff is fun. Keep up the good work.

[@pyrokuro3755]

3:39 Jonathan young: maybe not lions… BUT SURELY TIGERS-

[@jesuisunstroopwafel]

I am shocked this is still a debate. Every Pokémon solos a billion lions because Pokémon can't die in battle, only faint.

[@lasercraft32]

The only time Pokemon can die is via the magical power of "plot device." Otherwise they are immortal! XD

[@jacksonvoet8312]

@@lasercraft32 Or to extremely strong Pokémon, or weapons native to that world. Ogerpon has a kill count of three, and even then, those Lousy Three hooligans didn’t stay dead. And the Veilstone Myth’s swordsman seemed to be slaughtering Starly and Bidoof, and then just got called out by Giratina. Overall, the mortality of Pokémon in the Pokémon world is mostly limited to predation by stronger Pokémon, and even then, the souls don’t stay put for long.

[@Canaris4]

Pokemon do die in battle (it just so happens that the power of science is incredible, and people are capable of bringing pokemon back from the dead). If the pokemon were alive a full restore would work on a fainted pokemon. The only items that allow the revival of pokemon are magic crystals (the revive and max revive items) and the ashes of a phoenix.

[@Felixr2]

@@Canaris4 And the revival herb, which is... just a medicinal plant. Also any Pawmot or Rabsca can just do it naturally.

[@Scorialimit]

Lions can win if the pokemon play dead to let the lions feel better

[@13KuriMaster]

Brock's Happiny was not a regular Happiny.... It had the power of "Rule of Funny" augmenting its strength.

[@heehee4454]

magikarp orbital cannon is the reason why arguments like the lion ladder exist

[@nechocat1234]

But the magikarp orbital cannon has been shown to be a viable strategy while the lion ladder assumes a lot

[@gerald2508]

No, absolutely not. What the balls are you talking about?

[@Thatraptorguy]

I mean. You ever used a ground pound on a stack of like. 10 goombas. That magikarp isn’t just winning, that bitch is immortal

[@jacopolopiccolo3977]

Imagine being in a city but there are always earthquskes because of a... FRICKING FISH THAT IS ON THE EDGE OF CRYING

[@sharkt9877]

10:01 you mean any lion? Nearly infinite? It took a full attack from metagross a pseudo legendary. Picked up a frozen lake. And like… jeez

[@Indiangameror]

8:57 So lions will be like : Nah bro don’t lay a finger on that fish or else you’ll regret it 💀💀💀

[@aykarain]

3:44 that is NOT a billionth of the sun's power

[@GooUTTPISBAD]

For every gen we should add a billion lions so every Pokemon versus 9,000,000,000

[@pisti7252]

How the hell did you get 11 km/s falling speed?? Bro that is like 30 times the speed of sound 💀💀💀

[@marinagaleotti]

9:03 *the adventure of 6 pokemon journing from Kanto to Egypt to fight the evil vampire Lio Brando*

[@watashiwaKiraYoshkage]

Damn you JoJo! You managed to beat my team of 6 Arceus!

[@RefundedLore]

Don't forget though, a billion lions is a lot of lions.

[@gerald2508]

@@RefundedLore Between zero and one Pokémon is a lot of Pokemon.

[@donaldbaird7849]

There are simply many pokemon who would wipe out thousands of times their own weight in lions, some of which cannot even be touched by a lion.

[@jthunderboldt]

spinda has four billion patterns thats four spinda for every lion

[@RefundedLore]

@@donaldbaird7849 but a billion lions is a lot of lions.

[@RefundedLore]

@jthunderboldt if we're using that logic, then there are at least 7 different species of lions. 7 billion lions is a lot of lions.

[@Bobboerba]

There is a move called water gun so magikarp can drown lions since he learns it

[@jackslaven-hahn2959]

Blud he could never learn water gun. BRO IS HALLUCINATING

[@Hmaz]

They can learn Hydro Pump though!

[@metal_pipe9764]

Or she

[@Zakatakamime]

Dude have you seen a water gun 🔫? LOL, they would just drink the water.

[@gerald2508]

@@Zakatakamime Jokes on you, it is entirely urine.

[@Grim712]

Cosmog doesn't even have to summon an ultrabeast, simply opening a wormhole in the atmosphere would do catastrophic damage to not just a single lion, but the entire planet.

[@maxcuppens]

cosmog teleported lion into *the sun*

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

And this is how Pyroar was created

[@maxcuppens]

@@DragonTheOneDZA yay, WAIT THAT MEANS HE YEETED 2 OR MORE INTO THE SUN

[@PlanetaryGuineaPig]

Cosmog teleported lions into *The Sagittarius A supermassive black hole with 4 million solar masses at the center of the Milky Way*

[@maxcuppens]

@@PlanetaryGuineaPig yay

[@SagaEf]

Sure, but a billion is a lot of lions

[@zachpro5475]

Who would win 1 billion lions vs evey Pokémon that got leaked in the Tera leak

[@okayokey]

Naw, but 1 billion lions is a lot of lions.

[@gerald2508]

@@okayokey 1 Pokémon is a lot of Pokemon. I mean, have you ever seen one?

[@Familiarpossessedjules]

I dunno, the Lions have been doing really well these past few seasons I think they have a chance to win

[@ViketAnnYuumi]

my favorite argument of the lions beating arceus is that they form a giant kratos made of lions like those wolf packs in the goose movie

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

Hot take: I actually love Wishiwashi

[@bln-kp9xo]

same

[@gerald2508]

@@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 How is this a ‘hot take’, who is going to fight you on this?

[@WestGarbage6]

@@gerald2508 Me.

[@gerald2508]

@@WestGarbage6 Why, what do you have against it?

[@WestGarbage6]

@@gerald2508 Absolutely nothing.

[@victzegopterix2]

Bro forgot Unown.

[@kannan07]

Cosmog will win by Asking its mom and dad [lunala and solgaleo(yes they are female and male respectively{read the damn dex}])

[@tmtorsmth]

I thought it was obvious Solgaleo and Lunala are supposed to look like a masculine lion and feminine bat

[@lasercraft32]

Technically they are non-binary, as they are _literally_ genderless.

[@diegoquezada3193]

@@lasercraft32 You are correct as they're listed as gender unknown when you catch them, however the pokedex does say that Solgaleo can be considered the male evolution, and Lunala the female evolution of Cosmog.

[@Har22-c4s]

​@@diegoquezada3193 This is a educational question. Would they perform sexual reproduction? They are ultra beasts after all who went through another line of evolution( not the pokemon one, the real one) and maybe even had different laws of physics in their universe. Maybe they do perform sexual reproduction but they have a very different way to do it.(I am assuming they have a population even though they are legendaries but that is in our world, maybe in their world they are not. We can see that ultra beasts are absurdly strong even though they were randomly appearing. So a sun lion and moon bat isn't fully out the table.)

[@kannan07]

@@Har22-c4s actually there being like dozens of cosmogs in ultra space is already canon, the reason solgaleo and lunala became legendary is because 2 of them travelled to earth to stop ultra beasts, so their species is probably peace keepers or gaurdians or something

[@TheSynthiaOfficial]

1:36 there's a mobile game called Magicarp Leap (I think) where you train your Magicarp to leap higher than the apposing Magicarp

[@7z_h3]

lion supporters will say "no powers shown in anime" and then pull out shit like "lion tank"

[@alexeystarkov7504]

99% of "Lion supporters" are being ironic simply to troll and trigger diehard pokemon nerds, like come on now this "argument" is literally just a joke

[@NoGravityWolf]

Cosmog could also just sit on the lions back because it weighs a ridiculous amount

[@gerald2508]

That is Cosmoem, the evolution.

[@NoGravityWolf]

@gerald2508 your right thanks

[@marikofeiqrishvili5111]

Do a video covering the leaks for legends za

[@thesilliestman105]

ok but lion tower

[@gerald2508]

@@thesilliestman105 Airplane dragons (two of them).

[@Auragod08unofficial]

0:06 of I were there the shower would win against me

[@CaptainCoolGuy-xyz]

Magikarp knows hydro pump. It's joever.

[@NotlostMoon]

Magicarp: See, the first thing to me that I think of when the question gets brought up is "lions should be normal type". Normal type basically are just normal animals, so anything without a power should be one. Personally, I think a magicarp would lose to a lion, but since magicarps are the unevolved forms it doesn't matter much. Speaking of losing to lions, we have a lot of the basic bug and normal types. I'm going to treat lions basically like Persian, so anything a persion or purely normal type Pyroar could clap a lion could. Anyways, boucecarp is real. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r16zcqWdo9ukh5Y Sunkern: Its abiltiies require harsh sunlight, so are weather depenant. This means basically needs to be high daytime in the savanah. So a night or dusk battle . . . Additionally, it is slow. Lions almost certainly have a better speed stat, so would probably outspeed and 1hko it. If not, a non sunny day solar beam would make a 2hko super likely. As for the solar beam itself, since pokemon do damage modified by their stats, this is like a flashlight that is solar powered. Gonna turn the lions a bit darker on their fur, but probably wouldn't even OHKO them. Snom: the actual reason is that even lions know snom is too cute to kill. Bug buzz might irritate the lions into a rage, worsening the situation if they aren't incapacitated. Cosmog: Lions can't touch it since it can teleport and float. But the wormholes seem like a bad idea. They rely on UBs being near where it opens on the other side, but more importantly the UBs that come through aren't obligated to fight the lion. Some might just run into the wider world, and some might even be a threat to Cosmog. Much more useful would probably be calling on daddy and mommy Solgaleo and Lunala. And do I even need to mention why a Cosmog summoning THE (one and only) Necrozma would suck for it. That being has no interest in lions, but does want the light from the Cosmog. Wishiwashi: Personally I would let it school, but even alone those stats are innaccurate. They actually have two extra zeros in each category. Happiny: Someone check that girl for drugs, she 100% is not natty.

[@Forever-le3zb]

To be fair, lions are lions, they don't exactly have a type, unless what's being implied is that humans have a type.. Making us also pokemon. So, lions ain't Pokemon. Interesting tho.

[@NotlostMoon]

@@Forever-le3zb I would imply humans should, usually, be normal. Some martial artists should be fighting. Most importantly many humans in Pokémon are shown to be real psychics. From notable characters like Sabrina to even some basic trainer battle npcs. To me normal is the generic type, so if something has no special attribute it’s normal. I mean we have some Pokémon that are pretty literal (rat and notably the Pidove line. I’m pretty sure I’ve eaten an Unfezant). I also don’t believe typing has to be technically exclusive to Pokémon. I would argue even a literal could be considered “steel” type. But that’s an inanimate object so not being poisoned wouldn’t matter. I say this because a lot of type area literal physics attributes. Rock types are rocks. Of course some are mostly the powers, like electric types (in most cases)

[@Forever-le3zb]

@@NotlostMoon you make a very convincing argument.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

The issue is buffing lions to be equal to Pokemon like Pyroar in stats. Sure, a lion can run through most of the Pokeverse if it were given, say, Solgaleo's power, but then that isn't a lion anymore: that's a Solgaleo larping as a lion. Pyroar has an Attack stat of 68. Compared to most mons, especially fully-evolved ones, that is a bit low. But even still, can a lion even match base 68 Attack? Lions have been allegedly recorded to jump up to heights of 12 meters. Weighing up to ~270 kg, we can plug those numbers into sqrt(2 • g • h) to get a take off speed of roughly 15.34 m/s, which we plug into a = v / t and assume a time of 0.5 seconds from prone to getting off the ground to get an acceleration of 30.68 m/s^2, which we plug into f = W + m • a to get total force of 10,932 Newtons needed to jump to that height. Now we look at Magikarp. A Magikarp living for many years can leap over mountains, yet no matter how much you train a Magikarp in-game, it never suddenly clears 10 base Attack. Magikarp weigh 10 kg, and the shortest mountain in the world, Mt. Wycheproof is 147 meters tall. Using the previous formulas, that is a feat that at bare minimum takes a force of _57,781_ Newtons to accomplish. So Magikarp, a Pokemon with 10 base Attack, can generate _over five times_ as much force as even a highballed lion estimate (the heaviest lion and the lion with the highest recorded jump height are different individuals). That's not even using the smallest mountain in Japan specifically, or using heavier Magikarp from the base Pokedex measurements. So in reality, or I guess with 100% lore accuracy or whatever, a lion that is transported to the Pokeverse that does not suddenly get bestowed the power of a similarly built Pokemon might not even breach double digits in most of its base stats.

[@NotlostMoon]

@@christiancinnabars1402 The height a pokemon can jump has never been based on their attack stat. Jumping high (bounce) is a physical ability, and probably should be more closely linked to speed, if anything. Groudon has a massive attack stat. Something tells me mister rooted ro the ground isn't exactly about to pull a magicarp and flop. Aggron also has a considerably higher attack stat than Magicarp or Pyroar. Man is made of metal (and rocks when not mega). Even hopping would be an effort. Much more relatable to attack would be bite force or the deepness of wounds. - Additionally, we can't really have a serious argument about lions v pokemon without a way to translate their powers, and the options are either completely eyeballing by shoving pokemon into a statless setting, or giving lions a base set. The latter seems more logical to me since we basically already have big cat pokemon (Pyroar is a special attacker, and persian isn't that strong, hence why I picked them. Irl lions can't do the one main thing that sets Pyroar apart from them -> breath fire.)

[@Solrex_the_Sun_King]

Question: Do the pokémon even have enough PP to defeat all the lions?

[@Br0ken_7ecord]

Answer: many pokemon fly, and could stall the match long enough to get a healing potion or something

[@carleeelders875]

I love Brocks Happiny🥰😂😱

[@donniejefferson9554]

The key to the pokemon vs lions debate really comes down to whethervor not you use gameplay or pokedex logic. By dex logic, the pokemon win immediately. The pokemon have one that is hotter than the sun. They win. By gameplay logic though, the pokemon win just as easily. There are moves that hit any opponent, no matter how many there are. Like 3 pokemon just use earthquake and surf and they've killed all the lions.

[@madeinhonoluloo]

Last i checked splatoon 3 wasn’t mentioned in USUM

[@crinsomboi5525]

lion ladder solos

[@petep3069]

i like femboys

[@silver_was_found]

i feel so appreciated right now

[@Flarztheburningsoul]

Happini wouldn't just take a lion it would make it into a smoothie and drink it. Seriously tho, the frozen lake and Metagross feats alone say a lot.

[@Zeees_world]

0:08 jokes on you friend I'm watching this in the shower. Muah haha

[@MyNaymIsSnek1526]

Pokémon fansss who shower rissse up!

[@Allister_TheGhost]

@@MyNaymIsSnek1526rises from my grave

[@ruthvanessagerez3552]

Cosmog could also teleport a lion inside a volcano and watch it suffer as cosmog smiles;)

[@gerald2508]

@@ruthvanessagerez3552 A lion would not suffer in a volcano Because it would explode.