Mathematically Proving the Hoenn Region is in a Recession

[@adef]

Check out Rocket Money for free: RocketMoney.com/adef Hey gang! This video was somewhat more outside my wheelhouse and required LOTS more research than my videos typically do, as Econ was never my strongest subject. Economics is (somewhat intentionally) a very touchy, difficult-to-grasp subject. I hope I've done it some justice! If you have any thoughts/feedback on the material, or if you're an economist and have some corrections or more cool info to add, please comment! I'd love to read it.

[@earl.c]

Not an econ correction, but you stopped giving half away when you lose in Gen 3

[@ClownGirlsHonkHonk]

Sorry, I dont support team rocket.

[@lexaray5]

Hi. Math nerd here. Your explanation isn't quite right for why you're using e. The equation from earlier is missing the very important n, which is the number of times the rate is increasing/the interest is being compounded/whatever the situation is. So it's P(1+r/n)^(nt). And when you take the limit as n approaches infinity, you get the literal definition of e. Because e = lim(n->inf) (1+1/n)^n. So it's not that the equations produce similar results. It's that when you take the limit as n approaches infinity, you get *the exact same result.* But taking the limit as n approaches infinity is a lot more work than just using e. The former requires calculus, the latter just requires a calculator with an e button. Depending on the situation, you might actually not want to use e. For example, if you're looking at a bank account that compounds interest quarterly, then you don't want the equation with e in it. You want the equation with n and you want to set n = 4. (quarterly = 4 times) If you use the continuous growth formula (the one with e), your answer would be wrong. But inflation is a case where you do want the continuous growth equation. n, the number of times per year it is growing, is actually approaching infinity. (because it's always growing) That's why the equation with e is more appropriate to use here. Edit: also I love your videos and keep doing what you're doing! Edit 2: and if you wanted to show this in a video, I think a table is a good way to see it. Show n and (1+1/n)^n in two columns and plug in increasing values of n. (start with 1, then 2, then maybe 10, 100, 1000) You'll starting getting numbers that are closer and closer to the exact value of e.

[@DavidJCobb]

​@@earl.c aye, beginning with FireRed and LeafGreen and persisting into the present day. not sure if ORAS use the classic formula (half) or the modern formula tho

[@olivergro7105]

​@@lexaray5 You're a madlad and I love it :D

[@mewtubeelias-noskillarts]

Winstons parents just decided to give him a lower allowance, because he buys fckng full restores for his zigzagoon.

[@29reli]

LMAO

[@HuneeBruh]

I mean if you had the money to spare, wouldn’t you want to get the best medication for your pets?

[@mewtubeelias-noskillarts]

@@HuneeBruh Fair point

[@HuneeBruh]

@@theaveragesquire well one makes your hair fall out and the other just perfectly heals everything

[@Boricosa]

I think I'm going insane, I saw the word Zigzagoon in your comment as blue as if it was a hyperlink

[@timmacasaet]

You should see the shrinkflation in Alola - hyper potions still cost the same but restore only 120hp instead of 200hp

[@atonofspiders]

I prefer the new hp amount for hyper potions, but yeah yhe shrinkflation of it is soooo real, they should be 60% the price realistically. They don’t make them like they used to 🤷‍♀️

[@Stormkyleis]

Can we just admit that potions are a huge scam? Fresh water is much cheaper and it's literally as effective as a super potion.

[@magicfish8213]

​@@StormkyleisBig Potion lobbied Kommo-Ongress to force Fresh Water to be declared a monopoly and force them to worsen the Fresh Water recipe to only restore 30HP.

[@UnPokemon]

@@Stormkyleis They are but you usually can't buy them in bulk so you had to go through buying them one by one at the vending machine.

[@ObliviousMiner]

@@Stormkyleis This is a good example of how lifestyle changes like eating healthier, going outside more, and exercising can be more effective at treating and preventing illness than artificial drugs. Solve the problem at its source, instead of treating its symptoms with pharmaceuticals.

[@kushd22]

inflation so bad they gave me half a premier ball after buying 10 pokeballs :/

[@ASwallie65]

Which half? The top half or the bottom?

[@kushd22]

@@ASwallie65 they sliced it down the middle from the top! i have the left half

[@zoompipes_twin2889]

Ok… but what’s inside?

[@tylerboothman4496]

Exeggcute are $8 a dozen!

[@kushd22]

@@zoompipes_twin2889 a mew c:

[@MrMagz924]

Fun fact: In many Pokemon games, the major trainers will give you an amount of money equal to their highest level Pokemon with 2 zeros added. Sydney gives $4,900, Lorelei gives $5,400, etc. This means that Tate&Liza give one of the highest payouts in the franchise because both of their aces are on 42 and they combine their totals to give out $8,400.

[@robplaysstuff6029]

Which Sydney reached in Oras because he’s benefiting from inflation

[@hamburgerbroz6439]

rich babies alert. hoenn always winning

[@hi-i-am-atan]

this also applies to every other trainer in those games, just with a different factor based on their trainer class. for example, the rich boys of emerald all give out a whopping 200円 for each level of their strongest pokemon, whereas the bug catchers and campers give out only 16円

[@MrMagz924]

@hi-i-am-atan That's actually really interesting and I did not know that. The amount of money the gym leaders and E4 is readily available on Bulbapedia and I visit those pages often, but I never even considered it being a trainer class thing. I wish they had kept doing something similar in more recent games (assuming they aren't, though they might be and I just haven't found the pattern yet).

[@msclolololol1809]

Nepotism?

[@piguy5684]

Something interesting to think about is the Pokemon multiverse -- according to the games, Emerald and ORAS are not the same world split across 10 years, but instead two seperate universes differenciated by the existence of Mega Stones. So then why the economic differences between Hoenns? While you could argue something about the butterfly effect, I propose that the Mega Stones themselves are the cause of this economic discrepency. The power and exclusivity of Mega Stones gives those with more fortunate backgrounds a major edge in battle; an edge that less fortunate trainers simply can't compete against. While this can already be seen with battle items (our man Winston has a Full Restore ready to use on his lv. 8 Zigzagoon before you even know it is an item that exists), Mega Stones would only drive a further wedge between classes and therefore account for the differences in economies.

[@harukaze7388]

Wasn't that also Team Flare's kinda whole thing? That they were this giant tech monopoly very much focused on "exclusivity"?

[@jakko_]

Pay-to-win IRL 😢

[@PrinceTalonSabre]

​@@harukaze7388 ye, i guess. The exclusivity would come from everyone else on the planet being fucking dead. So it works, but calling it exclusivity makes it sound less sinister. Tho when you think about it, the reason was to prevent conflict over inequality and inability to share everything. Wonder if Lysandre didn't realize that, by keeping any amount of people alive, he'd still have to share shit, which will inevitably lead to conflict. I think his plan to eradicate all but a select few might have been a little flawed (and a tad overly dramatic) 😂

[@harukaze7388]

@@PrinceTalonSabre X and Y aren't the best written games (what with being rushed and essentially having half of the story cancelled) so it's a bit confusing what to get out of Team Flare, but my impression was that the front of Lysandre was that he was a millionarie tech CEO, and a lot of Team Flare's motifs were about economic exclusivity, being this corporation that branded itself as "generously helping people's lives" keeping a huge monopoly and having themselves as an elite apart from "those who take from others" and yeah lysandre also had his genocide weapon plan and he did aim for "wipe out the exploited class" but team leaders having more unhinged plans than the whole team itself is common in pokemon. (lysandre isn't acting out of greed or not wanting to share, he sees himself as charitable even! he just does genuinely believe in wiping out the "unworthy" to better the world) but again the actual content of what does team flare itself even do or want is kind of ambiguous and this is mostly my impression, since X and Y are kind of a mess (and I doubt we'll get anything about this from Z-A)

[@thundercrash4775]

Could be a result of a more recent economic disruption, considering that we know the Devon Corporation plays an outsized role in the economy: In RSE, off the southern coast of Hoenn is a wrecked cruiseliner called the S.S. Cactus that the player can explore. In ORAS, it was replaced by the Sea Mauville, an oceanic research platform that was studying Infinity Energy (the energy given off by Pokemon when they Mega Evolve). The station was almost completely destroyed by a mysterious explosion, and subsequently abandoned. Being forced to abandon an expensive project following a potential ecological disaster? That might cause the company stock to drop a bit. And that's on top of disrupting a major shipping route to the western side of the region. Both wrecks are located in the sea route between Slateport City (a major port town and likely distribution hub for the region) and Dewford Town. On average it tends to be more economically viable to send goods over long distances via ship rather than over land, especially in a region like Hoenn where land routes are constrained due to the presence of Mt. Chimney.

[@FieryRedmond]

I think Rich Boy Winston just lost all his pokedollars in NFTs

[@brendantw]

Ok, I was going to comment how NFTs are like way too new for that, but I looked it up and the first NFT was in May of 2014, about half a year before ORAS came out so your comment is actual factual.

[@lilpetz500]

​@@brendantw Honestly? Rich boy Winston seems like the exact target audience of NFTs

[@zadayaz]

“all my infernapes gone” - winston, probably

[@tylerboothman4496]

​@@lilpetz500 The Pokemon version of one of the Paul brothers

[@idyvalentine]

​@@zadayaz"this just sold please help"

[@fsyth]

Math/finance nerd here. I'm not sure continuous compounding interest is the right choice of formula here, since inflation is inherently measured at discrete intervals. There are different ways to measure inflation, but the most common is the consumer price index (CPI). At regular intervals, usually monthly, you put together a 'representative basket of goods' - this is a basically a basket of all the goods an average household would spend money in a month, including food, fuel, clothes, health care and so on. Housing costs like rent or mortgage payments are often excluded since they're so expensive they can dominate the whole metric, but when they are included it's called CPIH (CPI including representative housing costs, converting mortgages and homeownership to equivalent rent). Anyway, getting back to the math. The overall inflation between two points in time is, by definition, one basket price divided by a previous basket price, minus 1. This works great for historical data. You can say things like, in the year 1970, a loaf of bread cost 10p, and in today's money it costs £1.40, so we could say that a loaf of bread has gone up in price by 1300%. Or we could say that 10p in 1970 is now worth £1.40 in today's money, as long as the value of a loaf of bread to humans hasn't fundamentally changed (which is why we need a representative basket of a bunch of things so human values even out. What if everyone's keto suddenly?) However, overall inflation numbers like these aren't great when comparing different ranges of time. If we look at inflation over 1 month and see that it's 0.2%, what does that mean for the annual inflation target of 2%? Are we on track, ahead or behind schedule? For that, we have to convert to annual equivalent rate (AER). Due to compounding, we must apply the 0.2% for the month 12 times multiplicatively. This is exponentiation. So, we can just raise that rate to power of the number of times to apply it. So 0.2% per month, over year is 12 multiplications of (1+0.2%) or 1.002^12. What's neat is we can also convert from a long time period, like 10 years, to an AER by using a fractional power. So if we had 30% inflation over 10 years, as an AER it would be 1.3^(1/10). This is the actual formula that banks use to pay monthly gross interest. Banks will advertise the AER, and then compute the monthly interest by taking it to the power of 1/12. (Actually strictly speaking, they would use a power like 30/365 for a month with 30 days in a non-leapyear) Continuous compounding interest is something else to do with gross interest versus AER and it's not really relevant here. Banks tend not to market gross annual interest when paying monthly since it's a lower number than AER. Gross interest is the rate you would get if none of the interest compounded. It's simple, in that you can just divide gross annual interest by 12 or 365 and get the monthly or daily interest payment. Obviously though, you'd make a little more if your gross interest is paid monthly since you'd get interest on the interest. You'd make even more if gross interest were paid daily. So more frequent payments result in higher AER, and in the limit, with infinite infinitesimal payments, you have continuous compounding interest. It's the theoretical maximum AER you could get from a gross rate if it were compounded continuously. But gross rates aren't all that relevant. It generally works the opposite way around, in that a bank decides what the AER should be and then they compute a monthly or daily gross amount from it. I think the confusion is that with the continuously compounding interest formula you listed, r is the gross annual interest rate, not the AER. And everyone just works with AER when talking about interest rates or inflation rates.

[@-FFFridge]

Math on-finance nerd here. I don't know much about economics but from what I can gather inflation is a continous process that is only sampled at discrete times. If that is the case, wouldn't a continuous time model be a better approximation than the discrete time model?

[@fsyth]

​@@-FFFridge You're right, inflation is continuously happening (I mean, really it's a finite number of price changes of a finite number of products, so it's discrete but with enough small changes that it may as well be continuous). As you say, the only meaningful way to measure is it is to sample it at two points in time. If you want to model a continuous curve between those points, then the way to do that is with the AER formula. If we sample the price of something at two points in time, we have points (t0, p0) and (t1, p1) that an exponential curve must go through. The AER model for the price at some other time t would be: p(t) = p0 * (p1/p0)^((t - t0)/(t1 - t0)) This is a continuous exponential function, just like e. You could rewrite it in terms of e, but there will be a natural log somewhere. You can see it goes through our measured points, and you get the AER by with (p(t0 + 1 year)/p0 - 1) * 100% The difference with the formula adef used and the compounding continuous interest formula is in use-case. That formula comes about when you have a start point (t0, p0) and you're wondering about possible end points given a fixed gross rate and a variable amount compounding payments in a time range. It's not for fitting a curve between two known points, and the way this formula was used (confusing AER with gross) in the video causes the prices to diverge from the points that would be expected. Which he mentioned, but I don't think he really understood why he was getting slightly higher prices than expected. He basically calculated the AER (which is already continuously compounding) and then increased it to make it compounding (as if it were a gross interest that is not continuously compounding) which made the prices get bigger than they should have been

[@memeshort7189]

Holy crap! Go write a textbook

[@fleefie]

As always, the abstract math nerds beg for continuity but the applied math nerds work on discrete stuff, a conflict as old as time, a war to never end. Is d/dx a fraction? To the continuous heart, no, it cannot be! It is infinitesimal! A fundamentally continuous thing. No, a mere operator, its value cannot be defined, for it holds no value! Yet the physicist and economist look into each other's eyes; They know that there are only so many values to be held. It is a fraction, for the differences expressed are finite. Yet they must hold a lie to the mathematician. "It is just a simple operator," the economist says, filled with fear. "Should we treat it otherwise, all of our math would beeak!", the physicist continutes. And yet, the mathematician continues living in his dream of continuity. Because inflation, quite surely, makes sense when thought of as happening every single instant. He believes that the prices of goods ever so slightly increase at every concievable instant... but perhaps it is good to let him believe this. For his idealism brings results.

[@SkadingleMadongle]

Alternative take: rich boy winston has less money because he picked up a bad burn heal addiction after getting owned so many times

[@NailGunZero]

Sure why not. I gotta get up in 6 hours for work. Why not learn how the Hoenn Region is in a recession.

[@Eroil]

Did you intentionally make the "hoenn region" part clickable or is that automatic

[@godlover9096]

​@@EroilKZbin now adds search hyperlinks to comments automatically. No user control over it sadly.

[@mickgorro]

​@@Eroilnot clickable for me...

[@Glitterkittyxyz]

​@@Eroilyoutube just does that now

[@MrMetal-xe8lg]

That's the spirit

[@FartingSpider12]

2:33 The Bureau of Labor Statistics was mentioned! Any Austin is now legally required to show up to this video!

[@patricialock1862]

Surely we get an Adef/Any Austin collab

[@paultimate14]

Add in that Any Austin just posted a video with the same sponsor, and just recently had a collaboration with Practical Engineering too... I was expecting him to show up throughout the whole video.

[@FartingSpider12]

@@paultimate14 Some day we will get the collab of "dudes that over-analyze video game details and compare them to real-world definitions and standards" that we deserve.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

Direct Survey Bros!

[@star0chris]

I personally would love an hour long video of just "Adef News" LMAO Great video as always :)

[@hikerclarence7092]

Here's a new video idea: explaining sound and pressure waves using the whismur line. Loudred's pokedex entries say that it can destroy a wooden house with its cry while exploud can trigger earthquakes. Exploud in particular can supposedly be heard from 6 miles away and was used to communicate between distant cities in the old times. -how loud are loudred and exploud? -what is the relationship between sound and pressure waves (i think sound is a longitudinal pressure wave, right)? -how would an exploud be used to communicate without causing earthquakes or damage to its own city? -would morse code be the most practical way to use exploud to communicate since it can't talk? -what takes more energy: causing an earthquake or destroying a wooden house?

[@patricialock1862]

Sound can travel through solids, liquids, and gases as longitudinal waves but shear (transverse) waves, as well as a couple of other types, can travel only through solids. I'm not very knowledgeable on the topic yet but that much I'm certain. Not sure about the rest of your questions though (and to be frank now I'm curious)

[@1colonelsanders]

Yeah any videos talking about crazy pokedex entries in general sound good to me for this channel.

[@Asiago9]

The problem with that is the science of acoustics is one of the most complicated physics problems that you can do

[@SoFishtry]

Big fan of the desert sinkhole background when talking about the US economy.

[@psychoDon525]

I think this video is really cool and good, and my comment is not trying to take away from the amazing video that this is! After gen 3, they changed the lost money from battles to, instead of 50% of your total money, now using a formula of "Highest level Pokémon, multiplied by some 'base payout' value, determined by your number of badges." Seeing as how we know Winston has a level 8 Zigzagoon, we can determine his base payout in the remakes to be 120, which means that he's actually paying an exactly correct amount, assuming he has 8 badges. I think we could even see this as an argument AGAINST an oncoming recession, as it means that you're taxed more based on how successful you are. Potentially leading to higher-level trainers with more badges paying more money, evening out the economy a bit more, and allowing the less wealthy to struggle less. You can also use this math to determine how many badges each NPC trainer has. For example, Youngster Billy on that same route uses a maximum level 6 pokemon, and gives 96 pokédollars. 96/6=16. Youngster Billy has 1 badge.

[@Iinneus]

oh shit the lore expands

[@andreim.g.9299]

In the "visual metaphor" segment with Swampert knocking out the Bug Catcher's Wrumple, the player's name is Clay. Clay, notoriously wealthy mining tycoon from the Gen 5 games; precisely one of the people in the Pokémon world who'd be less affected by a recession due to a better safety net, more access to financial resources and better treatment from the legal system. I dunno if that was intentional, but if it was, the attention to detail is really cool.

[@Shenanagans_]

The main reason for the decrease in prize money is that the multiplier for the trainer class changed from 200x level in gen 3 to 120x level in gen 6, which actually shows that Hoenn is moving away from a gambling based society which could be argued is a good thing :)

[@tsukara]

but have you considered that gambling is fun and cool

[@Cr3zant]

How does that explain later game trainers giving more money than they used to if the overall multiplier is lower though?

[@BananaGatorProds]

The removal of game corners suddenly makes way more sense

[@SnoFitzroy]

@@Cr3zant FOR THE TRAINER CLASS! Elite Four is not Rich Boy. Different class, different multiplier

[@zadayaz]

5:15 “please throw it back, thank you” is a hilarious clip out of context

[@SirPhysics]

The funniest part of treating this as real time inflation is the implication that nobody in the Pokemon universe ages.

[@polarstriker3854]

I mean... let's just take a look at Ash real quick. That kid has been 10 years old for like 25 years.

[@Arcon1ous]

@@polarstriker3854 That's just because he ran into Ho-oh as one of the first things he did on his journey and got his wish of adventure until he became a pokemon master granted, making a temporal anomaly around him appear where him and anyone who travelled with him didn't age until he became a pokemon champion, as seen by the fact that the show ended soon after he achieved his goal.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I mean He did age a year for the first movie, since it explicitly says that o e year has passed

[@PixyEm]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Somehow he's celebrated the pokemon world's equivalent to christmas multiple times over, but still hasn't aged

[@lexaray5]

Hi. Math nerd here. Your explanation isn't quite right for why you're using e. The equation from earlier is missing the very important n, which is the number of times the rate is increasing!/the interest is being compounded/whatever the situation is. So it's P(1+r/n)^(nt). And when you take the limit as n approaches infinity, you get the literal definition of e. Because e = lim(n->inf) (1+1/n)^n. So it's not that the equations produce similar results. It's that when you take the limit as n approaches infinity, you get *the exact same result.* But taking the limit as n approaches infinity is a lot more work than just using e. The former requires calculus, the latter just requires a calculator with an e button. Depending on the situation, you might actually not want to use e. For example, if you're looking at a bank account that compounds interest quarterly, then you don't want the equation with e in it. You want the equation with n and you want to set n = 4. (quarterly = 4 times) If you use the continuous growth formula (the one with e), your answer would be wrong. But inflation is a case where the growth is continuous. n, the number of times per year it is growing, is actually approaching infinity. (because it's always growing) That's why the equation with e is more appropriate to use here.

[@finn_underwood]

I love the "C+ See Me" gag for your typo - very clever way of turning the editing mistake into a joke when you can't be bothered fixing it.

[@KyomaGaming]

8:09 i see. so the cause of the recession is swamPert

[@MDLuffy1234YT]

*swAmPe^rt

[@Sporangess]

You don’t need to remind me this is happening in real life I just came here for Pokémon

[@bucsheels2424]

lol we are not in a recession buddy

[@Sporangess]

@@bucsheels2424 I know I’m just saying in general

[@chillycharizard5985]

@@bucsheels2424lol give it a few years, buddy

[@kylebennett2612]

@@bucsheels2424 bro is blind

[@kristoffer3000]

@@bucsheels2424 ???

[@antonphilip5842]

Adef having 78k subs and not over half a mil is still the biggest crime on pokemon youtube. Prove me wrong.

[@gabrielgoes0]

Let's make an Adef style video proving that's right

[@zarathoustra6531]

The proof is left as an exercise. Good luck :)

[@mjja4783]

I think the biggest crime was that nappy dude 💀

[@solDelta]

biggest crime on youtube, maybe. biggest crime by youtubers? not even close

[@allie_nord]

3:33 Pulling P out is a genre that doesn't often cross over with economics

[@iterativeimprovements1713]

This is an incredibly valuable video. A simple explanation of basic economic principles and their importance and use is pretty darn cool.

[@C4MG1RL]

The rich kid paying less? Not a recession, he just got lectured by his parents for burning money losing every day.

[@PixyEm]

He got tricked into paying a quarter for a stick of gum one too many days in a row

[@danielcm4237]

It's woth mentioning that in Emerald there were no Deliquent and Street Thug trainer class representants, which is not true to the remake. It's like the economic inequality and the Gini Coefficient in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire were higher than in the original games, to the point where we have trainer rebelling against the system that is causing all of this

[@teeweezeven]

I think Winston just got stricter parents, giving him less spending money

[@skalty9868]

9:30 I mean he’s a “Rich Boy”. He’s a child. His parents are rich and they give him money. A child having $2000 is pretty crazy.

[@hussarya3380]

But one thing - ORAS' Hoenn isn't RSE's Hoenn 10 years later, but Hoenn from another timeline than RSE's Hoenn.

[@bradyanderson1229]

This is in fact a kink in the theory

[@brendantw]

@@bradyanderson1229 A kinky theory???? 😳

[@CanTabOfWisdom]

The last bit about wealth inequality still applies though, so it seems like the ORAS timeline is headed for a recession while the RSE timeline is either doing better or is just less bad. Wait a second, theory time! Adef suspected Devoncorp may be influencing the recession. And ORAS is in the "mega stone timeline" or whatever we call it. We literally define timelines by whether they have mega stones or not. And Devoncorp specialises in stones. I can't remember if they imply this in the games but Devoncorp has GOT to be selling mega stones, they would never miss that business opportunity. So... The impact on the economy of Devoncorp selling mega stones has caused wealth inequality and accelerated the Hoenn region towards a recession!

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@CanTabOfWisdomgenius

[@BirnieMac1]

@@brendantwno Stop that, get some help

[@OperativeCandyPants]

P*e^rt is like "pert", short for swampert. Swampert is a hoenn pokemon. Boom, maths.

[@LOBricksAndSecrets]

This isn't a collab with Any Austin, but I feel in my heart that it should be

[@PixyEm]

My GF asked if it was Austin when I read the video title out loud

[@ritwikism]

Banks typically don't use continuous functions as a matter of fact. Even in the most extreme cases they will use daily compounding plugging in 365 into the t

[@zsmith8632]

You know, I always assume pokemon is a post scarcity utopia otherwise having so much of your population just hanging in gyms and routes waiting to have a pokemon battle with a random child walking by seems inefficient.

[@HimeDelia]

Nah it's like Bethesda games where all economic activity is conducted by bandits or raiders which also make up 99% of the population

[@Celestia282]

Alternatively, most trainers are either kids/teenagers who aren't yet old enough to be in the workforce or are professional athletes who get paid by the Pokémon League.

[@Sarah04527]

14:10 caught me so off guard

[@adrianpivotto1916]

Suprise Johnstone feature

[@safebox36]

I got curious and tried to look up how the Japanese version of RSE and ORAS compare to their western counterparts. But no, the cost of items and rewards for battles are almost identical except for a few gym leaders paying out more in the western versions. Damn, Hoenn really was hit with inflation.

[@LoanRepresentative]

You are becoming my favourite pokemon youtuber because I've had ideas like these for videos but never sat down to work on them

[@2ndclassking949]

Economist here, and I would say that the explanations you gave were quite good and accurate given the timeframe. As I'm sure you'd understand from maths and science that giving a truly technically correct explanation just isn't really feasible in a video like this and so you have to cut some corners for brevity and I think you did that well :). More nerdy explanation below: For the real nerds out there, the more tenuous part of your analysis is the jump from talking about inflation and distribution of wealth as direct indicators of a recession. What you have shown is there is a real and growing inequality problem in the hoenn region, and this has pretty adverse implications for the welfare of the poorest. This doesn't per se mean that there is a recession or deflation, in fact the way we measure inflation in the consumer price index (CPI) would say that the rate of inflation was 0% as the same number of poke dollars buys the same amount of goods in both games, as the prices are the same. However what has changed is the total purchasing power or % of wealth/income held by the lower deciles has decreased leading to lower welfare for them and greater inequality overall. Whereas a recession would mean the total production of goods and services has decreased, which could be the case but is not able to be substantiated based on the information you have given.

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

You're correct, the fed doesn't sit around cackling while making food unafforable. The grocery chain CEOs do.

[@gabrielgoes0]

😴

[@davidmella1174]

Grocery stores are incredibly low margin idk what ur talking about. There's no way that pressing a lever to target greed (like price controls) will ever work

[@nicholasneyhart396]

The federal reserve banking system does more harm than the grocery store that barely makes 5 percent profit.

[@PixyEm]

@@davidmella1174 Not in Canada, Superstore charges twice as much for the same product you can find at Walmart 💀

[@NoBrainer7]

maybe Winston was just carrying less cash that day but to be for real, AWESOME video. Love the whole insane concept, and the new way of telling a story with the news was very nice to see! Adef you are one of my absolute favorite youtubers, keep being awesome

[@nightingem]

Oh god. The Walter Cronkite joke. My senior quote was "and that's the way it is", because I was a ridiculous little journalism nerd of a high schooler.

[@Bruh_idk69lul]

4:40 well of course not, that's what _corporations_ do, not the feds /hj

[@graemedakota]

the fed (not feds, as in cops/fbi) is a silly little nickname we give the federal reserve bank, aka the US's central bank system, which was founded so we have better control over our financial system. they stabilize and oversee changes in prices & give reports on how much inflation there is. corporations with too much market power/ monopolies/ aren't price takers can artificially increase prices for their own gain, but we have laws (that don't always work) to stop that. inflation or just increase in specific prices for a product/service have reasons, including increases in technological advancement, binding price ceilings and floors, loss of imports or increased exports, taxes & tariffs, and many other things. it's easier to believe corporations are the worst and hurt everyone, but in a healthy economy, everything would be perfectly competitive, where nobody can "choose" a price and prices can meet the market equilibrium, where we have the optimal lowest price sellers are willing & able to sell, and highest buyers are willing and able to buy. corporations are not bad, unchecked, corrupt corporations without competition who are backed by unchecked, corrupt politicians through loopholes are bad. so yes, it kind of is the feds (not the fed)

[@Bruh_idk69lul]

@graemedakota uhh can i get a tldr..?

[@daddyespressodepresso2207]

I NEED an edited version of an OoT Randomizer Vod that's narrated entirely through Adef News Commentary

[@cpt.arctourus7950]

Love the premis it's actually an alternative universe though

[@brandomeyer]

babe wake up, new adef video just dropped

[@PickPig]

11:06 thats a bird

[@riverafton9086]

Nah, that’s a skeksi

[@Joelpm113]

How the hell are you coming up with these topics dude... Anyway great video!

[@ruairip7722]

I love how the "hold that thought" at 1:27 is timed perfectly to when the bit started getting a little too long-winded for me This is a pretty damn well-paced video

[@rogofos]

I'm in a unique position where I'm more familiar with economics than Pokémon so for me this was a video using economics to cover Ruby & Sapphire and not the other way around ._.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

Has anyone ever made a video about the effects of having a sizable portion of the population going around capturing wild animals and how that would affect the food chain?

[@dotmashrc]

4:49 Okay, that impression is oddly scary.

[@bigz27515658]

you are far and away the most underrated pokemon youtuber my man, keep it up

[@dsproductions19]

2:35 As a math nerd, too, I appreciate you taking this chance to explain that graph and show *how* bad the numbers have been recently and how it affects people. So many just consider inflation to be a buzzword nowadays, because of how often it's been said the last 4 years, and don't realize the significance of it. Videos like this, which teach concepts in a fun way, are great for helping people understand concepts like these. Fantastic work!

[@2rogues]

You know the jokes are good when I’m rewinding the sponsored segment to make sure I didn’t miss anything

[@JazzyWaffles]

If this trend continues, then by the year 2213, Rich Boy Winston will give you zero Poké.

[@austinmitchell2652]

I appreciate you using topics like this to help educate folks about important issues!

[@fritzbattcher5905]

I love your content and have ever since the fly video, but its crazy to me how you come up with some ideas for this video. Never would have made connections between different reward money between games a a whole video!

[@obits3]

Interesting observation about the changing wealth gap. Lines up with Shawna's commentary in X and Y: "You've got to be kidding! It costs money to go inside?" "Yeesh! This is how the rich get richer! Here's your entrance fee: $1,000!"

[@WillDoesStuff0]

Wow this is so cool! I’m gonna search up Pokémon inflation to learn more about this interesting topic!

[@PossiblyFubar]

💀

[@LifeWKai]

I turn this on to have background noise while I drive home from work. A quarter of the way into this I just realized: " hey this isn't Pokemon lore- this is just stuff I didn't Financial algebra in high school!" That being said, this video is really well made and produced.

[@benintegral6121]

this was a great video and i really enjoyed it, but the ORAS remakes aren't sequels to the the original hoenn games, they do not happen at a later point in time. the remakes take place at the same time at the originals, just in alternate universes. there's no recession happening because you're examining 2 different rich boy winstons in 2 different realities. winston isn't losing any money between the originals and remakes because there is no time passing between the original games and the remakes, he simply gives less money to the protagonist of the remakes timeline compared to the protagonist of the original games timeline

[@anakruger2412]

Super entertaining and really interesting! Honestly super applicable to real life, very helpful

[@flyingzebrafish]

adef is quickly becoming my favorite youtuber, and it really isn't close.

[@DefterBeast]

FACT CHECK: Rich Boy Winston is right before Petalburg Woods in Ruby, Sapphire, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire.

[@DoctorSwellman]

Nothing like being taught economics through the financial collapse of the Hoenn region. Excellent vid as usual

[@brunolike8631]

As an economy student, I like how in depth you went on the topic. Also, I personally didn't find any inaccuracies, but that might be my tiredness... Good vid still

[@zaca8845]

Always the perfect blend of comedy, skits, nerdy info and great vibes from you dude!

[@meloelebi1996]

Lazy Alternative Theory: Mauville Company screwed over Hoenn's government with its Sea Mauville and expanded New Mauville projects among other things before the rug was pulled from under them, and Winston was affected.

[@endy7630]

The segway into that ad was legendary.

[@JimmyDoesTooMuchStuff]

Great video! Quick fact check: Most interest rates like those on savings accounts are actually not continuously compounded like you suggest. They are compounded daily, quarterly, or monthly. That’s why you might see a deposit of interest at the beginning of each month. Using e is actually an approximation of the other rate formula for most finance and economics applications. For inflation calculations, since inflation is calculated annually, we should also compound annually to match. However, for the sake of your video using e is a close enough approximation.

[@raineTK]

Your videos are incredible dude!! The education factor is huge and regardless of the fun video game context the explanations are still engaging. May be biased since I’m a Chem & Maths masters student but hey. I think it’s all pretty neat. Your hours of research turn into really good videos!

[@8centjello636]

I love the work and passion you put into all of your video essays, keep up the amazing work :]

[@NecromanticWater]

I lost it during the news segment seeing what schools were closed due to snow

[@Mobtrapper-hq8is]

An Adef video smack dab in the middle of my unit on exponentials & logarithms in Pre-calculus! What are the odds? No, Adef, I do not, in fact, want you to tell me the odds

[@VedantCvn]

The news scrolling at the bottom was really an awesome and hilarious detail

[@harryrey2771]

Wow, that's a quincidence, I was thinking about a Legends game based on Hoenn for quite some time now. Essentially, it would be based on future Hoenn, called 'Ionnen'. It's a highly technified plqce where almost everything is controlled by the Devon Corp. Just like Legends Arceus, the normally evil teams are striving for a good cause here: Saving Ionnen's nature and PokeMon from being destroyed. In the story, they try to save Petalburg Woods from being uprooted and, the seas from being polluted and the Volcano from being destroyed by a energy-gaining scheme. The boss of Devon is Nero Trumm, a ruthless business man based on emperor nero of the Roman Empire. Seeing what you described in this video, I was kinda onto something, huh?

[@Felixicity]

the adef news segment was really cute and funny!! each of these gets better than the last, you're doing great :)

[@pinkducklett1051]

Boy you have a lot of fun with math huh guy

[@mido0700]

A=Pe^rt is such a funny way to spell swampert. Good thumbnail

[@darkrequiemzero]

Love your channel! Keep up the creative videos man! Its nice to see new types of Pokemon content!

[@ShockingRotom]

Just found your channel yesterday and I am binging the shit out of your videos lol. Keep them coming!! Also goes without saying but I think you are wildly underrated with how much work you put into your videos

[@forever_stay6793]

I think someone out there needs to make a "adef out of context" compilation video because there were so many funny moments here, especially the last clip

[@magma90]

10:15 ln(x) is the inverse of e^x, however e^x can map multiple complex numbers to the same complex number meaning that we have to choose a branch. In the real numbers, this problem doesn’t happen, meaning that ln(e^x)=x which is the definition of being an inverse.

[@HelterwithoutSkelter]

nerd

[@SweetsIsOnline]

This is such a good idea for a video goddamnit.

[@JzanderN]

This is going to be great for that one guy who figures out the unemployment rates of video game towns! If he decides to move on to Hoenn after finishing Kanto, of course.

[@PaintedDragon-81]

This is the most random topic for a Pokemon video and I love it.

[@benty4735]

Um actshually ☝️🤓 ORAS and RSE are the same set of events taking place in alternate universes soooo...

[@poké-ODIN]

Now this is some top-tier content. Subscribed.

[@marcotoccalini1079]

2:36 Bureau of Labor Statistics mentioned!!! Someone call Any Austin

[@rmorren9207]

I knew from the title alone that this would be a great video

[@calvinyee9002]

This is the 1st video watching you, i really love your style, it reminds me of the imaginary axis

[@TuftyTaltan]

This is a real "Uh oh" moment

[@Brahdilleone]

The photo of Johnstone as CEO of Big Corporation caught me so off guard ahaha, love it!

[@alfrancisvictorm.sapanta1628]

Wtf i clicked on this video for the the rich kid going broke and it actually turned out to be a review for my economics test in a few hours

[@kokorikopi]

I like the genre of "analyzing American economics vis a vis video games." We need more videos like this, like "Sonic The Hedgehog needs to get on food stamps," or "Samus can't affort spaceship fuel anymore."

[@catboygremlin]

shout out the video about when mario can retire

[@reverselunatic]

I can't believe you called natural log the "opposite function of e" and you should expect to hear from my lawyers within the week.

[@cxdelgado531]

Haha, I love the random JohnStone picture at the end

[@Frossboss05]

"when asked for further comment, he responded with one of his two lines of prewritten dialogue" 😂😂

[@melissaf5181]

whatever your genre of videos is is my favorite genre of video