Hmong-Mongol?

I made this video to educate and clarify to the young Hmong like myself who are loss, misinformed, mislead, root seeking, and explain why the Hmong/Miao did not originate in Mongolia.
We are Hmong/Miao people and our history began in China. China is our homeland.

[@niamtxiv]

@stockvangboi The term Hmong is not a Vietnamese term. Where the heck did you get it from?

[@1993652]

😆😆😂😂😂!!!

[@samlorson]

Is the list above and below the same deities? Like you said, how shaman says it. Nyujvag Tuamteem = Yawmlaug Nyujvag Tuamteem Nyujvag Tsuatob=Yawmlaug Ntxoov Kabyeeb Nyujvag Tsuaxeeb=Yawmlaug Tsim Nyiajkeeb and the four deity was later added. He was number 4 in your list? Just making sure

[@DevilsCuz]

Very informative, but could you slow down the text transitions and pictures?

[@Missherri]

Can I ask where did you get your resources from?!

[@TuamLis]

I honestly believe it's just a coincidence that the name Maum nkauj liag sounds similar to Mongolia. However, I could be wrong. But great presentation!

[@samlorson]

@Sundincubus The Hmong calender is based on the Lunar Moon, but we do not celebrate the Hmong New Year as the same time as the Chinese. The Hmong calender is not the same as the Chinese calender. It is usually a month ahead of the Gregorian calender, and two or three months ahead of the Chinese calender. Majority of the Hmong celebrate Hmong New Year on the 12th moon. This year it is the 25th of November in the Gregorian calendar which means January 1st in the Hmong calender.

[@Lehmbopop]

I think maybe the Hmong word "Niam" may possibly came from the word "Niang" which means Mother. Do you think so?

[@niamtxiv]

Thinking about it, Chiyou was known to call forth the wind. The Chinese said Chiyou ate sand, well, we know perfectly that in time of hardship, our people love to mix grounded yellow corn with rice, forming a yellow sand like and plain texture. In folklore and in the song of death, our people came from a lush green region with animals and spirits. It may be refered to Yang Shang, since it means land of lush green and forests. There, our ancestors used leaves to make clothing and today still are.

[@inotaishu1]

I guessed so, since this could never be confirmed by other sources. Some stories from Hmong in China I read had some elements reminiscent of chinese folklore or sometimes (really only sometimes) even nordic/germanic (e.g. the Moon eating Sky Dog) but they had no obvious similarities to abrahamic myths.

[@Lehmbopop]

I used to learn Mongolian language. It is completely different from Hmong language. Mongolian language belongs to Turkic language family. The sentence order is S+O+V. The word Mongol means Normad. In Mongol language, "I Love You" is Bi Chamd Kairtai. Bi = I. Chamd = You. Kairtai = Love.

[@samlorson]

I don't know if Hmong worship Nyujvag Tuamteem. He is part of the dark world. If I am not mistaken, is he the one that holds the book of death and rebirth?

[@LPhlubKOJxwb]

do u mind send me a picture of the book how it look like...I am very interesting..just in case in the future kids dont know so I can tell story..

[@AtarashiNOhi]

Not all Hmong men marry multiple wives. It's already costly to get a wife because of the bride price and plus, the girl's parents have to like you before you can marry their daughter. Only some Hmong men are able to get another wife because they had wealth.

[@hmoobxyoojgurl]

nice!! you should of have included our religion shamanism too i read somewhere that some Mongolian are too!! and when i compared the two religion in Hmong/Miao and Mongolia and it was different.

[@samlorson]

The Chinese word for mother is Niang. The m-base word is probably an adopted word from the English language such as Ma and Pa.

[@buithuanh85]

What is the "group of people who trace back to 1700bc that.....like us"? Please let me know the name of their group. Thanks a lot.

[@samlorson]

I am not sure if the Mien/Yao follow the Chinese Lunar Moon Calender or they have their own like the Hmong.

[@samlorson]

I am too proud of my ancestors and people. Chi You and his people were the first to create weapons, penal laws, and a religion, which not just played an important pole in the development of Chinese culture and technology but ushered in a new epoch for the Chinese nation to enter a civilized era.

[@samlorson]

Here are a few names of the Hmong kings. The first king is Tuam Tsheej Xeeb. Thaum ub nws nyob lub teb chaws Vam Khib (Ntuj Cuab Xyab). He was the first Hmong king according to the list I have. He had 9 sons. Xeng Xai is not in the list though. There's 19 of them in all. Chi You is included in the list. Here are a couple names I chosen to posted here. Tuam Tsheej Xeeb Lwm Tsuam Lij Vws Tsee Ku Vaj Kim Zeej Pov Txheej Txam Yaj Yuam Ntaj Xib Koo

[@samlorson]

They were hunters and gatherers and lived in these type of societies for thousand of years.Even now, there are some people that still live in these societies in parts of the world.

[@97tomv]

@buithuanh85 The author of imperialchina org stated that the Xiongnu may be San Miao. The joshuaproject net linked the Hakka to the Xiongnu. For more detail info about 100 Yuezhi and Xiongnu go to imperialchina org.

[@97tomv]

In the Hmong community, you have the reddish blond hair group. This reddish hair trait can be traced to the Yuezhi(the moon people). The 3Miao interacted with them in the Gansu area. Some historians say the Huns are from the 3Miao in this area. These 3Miao went into central asia and brought the asian trait with them. The Khitans may be of Chiyou because they claim Yandi ancestry. Yandi and Chiyou are thought to be the same by some historians.

[@54markl]

Don't you remember Li Ci, son of Chiyou? He led a northern migration of Hmong into Manchuria. They intermarried with Tungusics and became the Mongols. This was around 3000 BC.

[@samlorson]

@Sundincubus Offcourse, we are not Mongol. It was why I made this video. It is uncertain to where the Hmong really came from but according to historical accounts, research, and documents, China was our homeland. If we went further than China, it will be more complicated. I don't believe in the Middle East or Israel theory. If we go back as far as human evolution, it will only have to be Africa. It is where human branch off.

[@SimplyHmong]

next time try to slow down a bit so people can actuallly read and understand the contents

[@notownfamilyz8358]

Enlighten me more on Mua Leng Sang?

[@PhanteusZ]

thats same with everyone, everyone are born that way as thats how the media and our society washes us to believe. That ego/attachment. Enlightening is the process of realizing your true self, unclutching from your desires, wants, and needs, where you attain higher consciousness which is connected by love. That is what it is, and it is the greatest achievement a human can make.

[@kebbie19]

What are your sources? It seems that you have listed observations from your understanding. In general, climate and environment alters human's phenotypes. People in different regions of the same land change according to people they are surrounded with. Also, Hmong is from the Hmong-Mien language family. I got this information from an article written by a Hmong Chinese MD.

[@niamtxiv]

It is said that our people came from father Shi Na and mother Gao Joua, also known as Fu Xi and Nu Wa. I notice many Chinese folklores are the same, from the hero who shot down multiple stars. 5000 yrs and under many implemented policies, we didn't vanished nor were absorbe, some did. Our people are proud people. We trace our history to understand our past and present, we must not seek to bring back hatred. The Chinese have raised lub hauv toj in 1994 to unify all Miao people and their legacy.

[@samlorson]

I believe that in the ancient time, the Hmong had temples to worship the gods and deities. However, because our ancestors kept moving from prosecution from the Han, they lost the ways of worshiping the deities at the temples. It is why we don't have temples nowadays. However, I strongly believe that our ancestors once had temples. Who knows what the temples may have looked like. It could be a square or rectangle shape building.

[@ThePatsboy]

this guy is totally right because we hmong people are r own looks and kind...we are not chinese and mongols we r our own people...that is wat makes us special.

[@hebrewlife]

We're not mongolian, but it does make sense that we're much more related to mongolians than chinese. Altaic languages for mom has an n-base, like hmong say it with a 'nya' sound. chinese has an m-base sound for mom. Not to mention altaic also practiced shamanism and so do Hmong. Shamanism came from Siberia where there are Altaic languages. Nomadic hmong adapt over years to meet our new habitat so it make sense not to ride horses on mountains. Hmong clothing resembles Altaic more than Han chinese

[@samlorson]

There is an article written by a Hmoob-Leeg scholar, he belonged to the Moua clan. He explained why and so forth. Hmoob-Leeg or Hmoob-Ntsuab scholars want to difficiate the Hmong-Green dialect from the Hmong-White dialect when it comes to writing. One reason is because the RPA script was written dominantly in the Hmoob-Dawb dialect. Now, the word 'Moob' and 'Mong' are used by Hmoob-Leeg speakers when it comes to writing.

[@samlorson]

I'm not applying or saying that Hmong came from the Middle East. What I meant was that if we look at human evolution, human ancestors began in Africa.

[@YummYakitori]

Chinese legends state that Hmongs are the original inhabitants of the Yellow River. The Huaxia (華夏) came from the Northwest (Kunlun Mountain region), and shares a common origin with Qiang (羌), Tibetan (藏) as well as the Sherpas (夏爾巴) and the Mongpas (蒙巴).

[@54markl]

I admire your video very much, but please tell them that it was the Mongols who came from the Hmong. The old legend of Chiyoo's sons explicitly states that one of his sons took a migration of Hmong to the far north. There they intermarried with the Tungus and became the MONGOLS, the toughest Hmongs of them all! :)

[@nyamdavaa]

Thanks for the useful and informative video. As Mongolian I've never heard we're related to Hmong/Miao people. What I've been taught is they were they had to pay taxes to Mongolian Empire (is that the region were today's Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar, Cambodia and Thailand). There for they never been part of the Great Mongolian Empire, mainly due to the condition of its weather!

[@taichitao85]

longer than that hmong migrate from the north, Mongolia is a name for a great woman i think

[@ycl7497]

Omg, the best answer to whether Hmong is Mongols lie in this clips posted 12 years ago, but sadly there are Hmong still havent realise they were brianwashed to believe in this myth that spread among Hmong only, but not the Mongols. The Mongols would be laughing hard at this jokes and wonder why many Hmong would try so hard to be Mongols their whole life.

[@GangstaNigga14]

Mong were pretty much herders that were captured my Mongols😅 Our ancestors ran south after they burned our villages... The name came from the Mongol king 👑 our people were shamans, healers😅 they are also traders that sell clothes n stuffs to the Chinese exchange of money😅 I doubt Chinese Hans called us mong 😅

[@54markl]

Chiyou had a daughter who married the Prince of Shinshi (ancient Korea, in the Liaotung Peninsula). They had a son named Chiwu, who ruled in Shinshi. This is why the Koreans think Chiyou is one of them. The Xia Dynasty came from Shinshi.

[@niamtxiv]

Long ago, our ancestors were bulky, tall and strong. They were easily targeted and killed. Evidence have shown that our ancestors were not weak. Sword up to 100lb. Due to heavy mixing with the southern tribes, our people gradually changed over time physically, but emotionally still remain the same and carry the traditions of our people. It is said that the Miao people look like they were flying in ancient time. My mother did said the Miao people once could fly and called upon the wind.

[@niamtxiv]

LMAo, what are you talking about? The land of the nine suns refers to Shandong Province, where the story of Ka Yuam (Houyi) was told by the Dongyi people. The story of the many suns originated from Eastern China. It has nothing to do with Manchuria or Mongol.

[@samlorson]

Shis Nab and Nkauj Ntsuab are two different couple. They were immortal like Siv Yi (First Hmong Shaman) sent to earth to cure illness and disease. According to the Hmong myth, their duties were to teach the Hmong knowledge and skills. Because they were so handsome and beautiful, people chased them to be husband and wife, so they climbed up a ladder to go up to the heavens.

[@samlorson]

LOL...Sam Lorson does sound like an American right? I am actually an ethnic Hmong and live in Minnesota. Sam is just my nickname. Lor is my last name, it is spelled L-a-u-j in Hmong. My Hmong name is Kong I took a look at your profile and I wasn't sure if you're ethnic Hmong or not but thanks for telling me you are Mien, a relative of the Hmong/Miao. I am 4 years younger than you. Nice to meet you on youtube, brother. Private message me your email and I will send you the Hmong canlender.

[@samlorson]

What you said first was not clear. I too believe that the Hmong first spoke the Hmong-Green/Leeg dialect and it evolved into the Hmong-White Dialect. I usually compare the English language to the Hmong language. For example, American English was evolved from British English.

[@Lehmbopop]

That's right. We are never the same as Mongolian. The reason why people misunderstand is because the name Mong and the name Mongol is accidentally similar. That is why people get misunderstanding.

[@YummYakitori]

(cont) the Huaxias drove the Hmongs southwards towards Southern China and eventually even into Indochina regions. Both Hmong and Chinese have this legend.

[@klor4682]

@samlorson, you're right about everyone evoluted from Africa if we are to go that far back in time! Great standing point!

[@samlorson]

Many Hmong believe that Nkauj Liag or Muam Nkauj Liag is the name of a Hmong princess and many Hmong par it with the country Mongolia and the Mongol. There is no evidence that the Hmong/Miao are related to the Mongol. I've heard Hmong-Christian referred Mary (Jesus's Mom) as Muaj Nkauj Lig as well.

[@1993652]

Yes that is what my dad told me too. Muam Nkauj Liag is the ruler/protector of Hmong people, and so the land was called Mongolia. He says Hmong people are from Mongolia, but idk if we're mixed with Mongolians or not. Or vice versa.

[@niamtxiv]

It's okay. We have much to learn about who we are.

[@samlorson]

Ethnic persecution, and genocide has lead to the strong Hmong identity. I do understand what you are saying. Technically, we're Chinese in origin like you said. Most Chinese nationality who have emigrated or immigrated to other nations called themselves Chinese regardless of their ethnicity like the Han, the Manchu, the Yi etc.

[@acuraintegra1996]

What happen to the other two groups? What happened to the group that went north? That we are not sure, but Korea is north of Chi-You's kingdom and the Koreans worship Chi-You along with Hmong Chinese. What about the group that went west? Did they all died somewhere along the trip? Or did they turn into another ethnic group we don't know? Mongols?

[@97tomv]

@niamtxiv Hakka are "guest". They are from Northern China. During the Han Dynasty the Southern Xiongnu settled in Northern China and formed the 16 kingdoms after the fall of Han. These people were driven south by the Xienbi. They are Chinese like our cousins under Yandi are Chinese. It would be like the Hmong of Laos under the Lor and Hmong American under Vang Pao after 5000 yrs of separation and no contacts.

[@54markl]

The Japanese Imperial House is descended from Chiyou through Count Hong Yi of Jiangsu(Ninigi), who had Shang (Hmong) blood.

[@samlorson]

@ShuyuKoukin No, the Hmong/Miao will never become extinct like the Panda. We have survived due to opression, our land were taken, and we will continue to thrive.

[@97tomv]

Check his notes under Hmong has Mongol DNA where he explained his calculations. The C strand made up some twenty plus % of Hmong Der DNA. There was a two to one Mongol to Austroasia.

[@fanofyourshow]

I'm amazed foreigners knows about Mongols pretty good.... After end of Chingis khaan invasions so many Mongols abandoned where they was fighting with.They're stayed where they was . Now small portion of groups of all over countries they claiming they're "Mongols" like a hazara people of Iraq, turk, kazakh, kirgiz, uzbek, tajick, buriad, not sure so many even Halimag Mongol independent country...etc.

[@97tomv]

It is true Liu Bang came from Chu and founded the Han. Many Chinese don't want to talk about this point. He came from the Wu speaking area of Chu which is of Dongyi in origin. The Chu are from Shang descendants of Chiyou. So are the Chin. The Chin are the descendants of the 3Miao sent Northwest by Yu.

[@97tomv]

It seems the White Hmong had very little presense in Yunan. The ball tossing courtship game the White Hmong practiced is foriegn to Yunan Hmong but similiar to the Zhuang Singing Festival where the girl signal interest to a suitor by tossing cloth decorated ball to him. This means the White Hmong's route to Laos is from the East and not through Yunan as previously thought. This means the C DNA could not be from the Mongols based in Yunan.

[@samlorson]

It could be or vise versa. In Mandarin-Chinese, Niang means mother.

[@niamtxiv]

@myfreetibet No Hmong is acting like they're related to Mongol. We are nowhere related to Mongol. We are a very distinct group of people with a long history of our own. We are proud. We survived 5000 years of oppresion. We preserve our ancestors' traditions. Yes, Tibetans are related to Mongol. :)

[@Lehmbopop]

Of course these two words have meaning. "Tuam Tshoj" means Big Land. Tuam=Big. Tshoj=Land/Kingdoms. "Xov Tshoj" means Small Land. These 2 words are chinese words.

[@97tomv]

Xaithoj did some research into Hmong DNA and it seems we do have Mongol blood. It was not the dominate strand but did come in second. This suggests that the Mongol did hide among our people after the fall of Yuan.

[@97tomv]

This further support the Shangdong origin of the Hmong. Over 4000 yrs and the Northern DNA presense in the White Hmong is over 80% is amazing given they are surrounded by O2 DNA populations.

[@97tomv]

People. Culture changes all the time. We have reddish hair people just like the Mongols. At some point in our history this trait was passed to both our people by the Yuehzi (who became the Kushan Empire). There are only two point in time when this could have happen: when the Mongols ruled China or before China existed through the San Miao who were exiled to Gansu in Northwest China. These are the only two places where we came into contacts with Yuehzi descendants or the Yuezhi themselves.

[@samlorson]

To me, this Hmong story of Xeeb Xais is very Thai or perhaps Indian origin. It must have been an influence from the Laotian, neeg nplog.

[@kingkong916]

yes i can see the differences in cultures in language... and many of the other things... i was saying maybe with some dna testing or something we might have similar origins..

[@samlorson]

People called them back but they refused. They asked Yawg Saub so he suggested them to go to a rooster and ask him to crow. He did and the third time, the last sun and moon reappeared again. According to Hmong funeral song, Ci Tou and Tou Blou killed a toad. The toad was sent to investigate on earth. The toad cursed the Hmong that when he (Toad) was alive, the Hmong didn't die and were able to revived/shred from the death. Now that he is death, let Hmong die and never rise/revived.

[@PhanteusZ]

I am Mongolian, but Hmong people do look a bit like mongolians. Again, asians are asians, they share pretty much the common characteristics but also varies greatly.

[@97tomv]

@Askar Do you know the origin of the Mongols? They were called Menge. Genghis changed their name to Mongol. This was about 4000 years after the 3Miao have already entered central Asia and mixed with the Yuezhi. The Turkic people are the descendants of the Huns who are descendants of the 3Miao and Di.

[@samlorson]

No, the Hmong New Year does not correlate with the Laotian, Thai, East Indians nor Chinese. The Hmong New Year festivals held in each state is different due to economic, and seasons. It is anywhere from August to December but according to the New Year's Day in the calender it is not the same day as in the Hmong calender. It has became problematic and the elders would like to see the Hmong-Americans to celebrate just on the same day.

[@97tomv]

@beekyosuke The Hmong and Han are descendents of the Dongyi. Yandi and Yu the Great were Dongyi(bird people of the East). If the Koreans are claiming to be descendents then they are Hmong. If not then no. The Koreans' claim may be traced to the Tang Dynasty when all people East of the empire were called Dongyi(barabarians of the East)

[@inotaishu1]

Ok, found it on asianfinest, but only the report for the 2011 findings, the one for 2010 I could not find. :/

[@samlorson]

These are the three hypotheses made about Chi You's sons.

[@samlorson]

So, in your opinion, when was the great flood? 339 Anno Domini or Before Christ? Must be Before Christ. And if Xeng Xai was a great Hmong king in the year 399 after the great flood, it should have been more than 10,000 BC. Why was it just 3,000? Chi You and his kingdom has been 5,797. BTW, I don't called the 2000's as Jusus's year/calender. I called it the Gregorian calender.

[@samlorson]

However, Yawg Saub (God) told them to get married, Nkauj Mim gave birth to an egg shape baby. God told them to cut into 12 pieces and these pieces became the 12 original Hmong clans. God also told them to go to the old dragon. He was the one that taught them how to play the Qeej, marriage and funeral songs.

[@97tomv]

He had it on asianfinest forum under Hmong discussion. The Chinese were not happy with the results. They spammed much of the thread later on. He had it on the first page.

[@97tomv]

The most interesting DNA strands are the D and N strands. The N belongs to the Yakuts of Siberia while the D belongs to the Northeast Asia groups. Both of these don't exist in Southeast Asia. The exist specifically in the Hmong Daw.

[@97tomv]

@Serfius666 Are you referring to the Dongyi of Chiyou or the Xiyi of Huangdi/Yandi. Both are Yi(Qiang). Or are you referring to the San Miao (Shang, Qin, and Chu (all still Qiang)). Religion like all form of education change as a people advance. Shamanism is the earliest form of relgion and education for all people. It is a sign of development for all people. It is not a good sign.

[@97tomv]

@Serfius666 He listed no sources. When he talked about Shang he failed to mentioned the Shangs were Dongyi the same San Miao group whom were exiled to Gansu by Lord Yu. His time frames are wrong. From what you have been writing his theory would not pass a peer review. It seems more like a middle schooler's work than a professional.

[@samlorson]

Do we really know for sure that the word 'Mong' was changed into 'Hmong'? Which word came first. I doubt that the word 'Hmong' came first when the Romanzie Popular Aphabet (RPA) script , also known as Lastees/Latin was invited. From my own research and understanding, the word 'Mong' has been around not long ago. It is recent, perhaps in the United States last then a decade ago.

[@54markl]

Where did the Hmong come from? This is known. In 80,000 BC, they came out of Ethiopia and went into Arabia. The black Africans married the Neanderthals and became Australoids. The Australoids migrated east to the Pacific, one of their main destinations was the Huang He valley. There they met many Capoids and intermarried with them. These became the first Hmong people, around 50,000 BC.

[@niamtxiv]

One of the book I have about the Miao people with poems stated that the Miao warriors traveled up and down the mountains like wind. 80 percent of our people were massacred, but we still remain the fifth largest ethnic group in China. Hmong derived from the word "Mov" which means rice. The Hmong language is also a very complex language that is related to the ancient Chinese language. The Miao of Hunan still show central to northern Chinese Dna. I'm very proud of our ancestors and their resistance

[@Lehmbopop]

By the way, who is Xeng Xai. Is it Sinsay in buddhist fairy tales? Chiyou did not live in Buddhist era. Buddhist era is just 2552 years ago while Chiyou era is more than 5000 years ago. Sinsay is a Hero in Indian story (dab neeg).

[@Romarinho89]

ey yo its really not all mongol tribes there is only one tribe called Monguul in the Steppe and they were known to have a dialect different compared to all other languages in the great steppe that has formed into modern mongol. the tribes Temu'jin united were Turkic , the chinese gave the name 厥 =tujue but turkic people could not pronounce that name so they said Turk but the oldest description for people of the Steppe is Xiongnu . so Temujin united all former Xiongnu but not all Mongols

[@samlorson]

So, the story goes like this, there was once a king who had 7 wives. The youngest wife became pregant with triplets They became jealous and told the king that the kids are devils or ua npog. The youngest wife was sent away with her unborn children by boat. She gave birth to Xeeb Xais, Tub Ntxhw and Tub Qwj. They have magical power and could fly. There were gaints, so Xeeb Xais and his brother tried to save his father's kingdom.

[@tuamhawjdw3]

i dont u r hmong or mongolian but thank by the way...this is a great compare and infor tho....thanks for sharing.....anyway i never thought that hmong n mongolian r the same anyway....

[@samlorson]

@ShuyuKoukin Hey be nice!!! If not, I'll come back to delete all of your comments. We are ethnic Hmong/Miao, and you're not obviously. Our ancestors originated in China and it has been nearly 6,000 years ago. Our history is so rich and unique. Chinese made up of many nationalities or shall I say ethnicity. The Hmong/Miao is one of them. Khmer is not!

[@97tomv]

@Askar The Northwest of China demographic is a recent event of the 1800's when the Manchus drove the Mongols out of East Asia. 3Miao people have been living in Northwest China thousands of years earlier.

[@stockvangboi]

@niamtxiv yes it is. the original term is Miao

[@97tomv]

Continuing my point earlier... The Mongols are descendents of Xiongnu who may be descendents San Miao making them potential Hmong. They may be our cousin but they are not Hmong.

[@samlorson]

Yes, Chiyou is very old. It has been 5,797 years ago.

[@samlorson]

In the fourth generation of the first man and woman, the 8 suns turned the earth into dessert. It was too hot so Ci Tou and Tou Blou (fourth generation) made a bronze crossbow and shot the 8 suns and 7 moons down. The last sun and moon got scared and went hiding for 7 years. Everything on earth was darkkness.

[@beekyosuke]

@samlorson The original word Han race is Korean from my research. The Manchurian were not chinese. The chinese tried to divert the public and make everything "chinese" history, but they were exposed. Just until recently, the chinese tried to make Korean history "chinese" history but the koreans fought back for their identity. Don't let the chinese distort our history too. We are Hmong. We are NOT chinese. Its just that over time there were intermarriages.

[@HmongGuitarPlayer]

I study in 5 university and did enough lecture to last a life time.I will explain what Hmong?mong is.Hmong is like spanish while mong is like mexican.

[@samlorson]

I was in Chinatown, San Francisco three months ago for a day when I visited California for my spring break, I purchased a book titled, "Chinese Mythology" It talks about Shennong, Chi You, Fuxi, Nu Wa, the great flood and the two surviving siblings. The author stated that some of the myths might have been started with the Miao/Hmong people first and then spread to other ethnicities like the Han, Zhuang , Yue and surrounding areas where the Miao/Hmong inhibited. .

[@bone3594]

Say what you want man. Hmong and the Hans of northern China were once the same people Scientific DNA and genetics proved it. Hmong language is just a dialect of Mandarin. Mandarin is in the Sino Tibetian Family of Languages If you speak both languages than you know that all the important words are the same. We are all CHINESE.

[@niamtxiv]

Hakka are Chinese. Shezu that speak Hakka are related to San Miao. The San Miao influenced the Baiyue.

[@aher15]

great job! i think it's extremely important that you mentioned the language piece. historians have often used language as a means to trace origins and patterns of migration. and you know what? people only think that hmong are mongolian because of the phonetic similarity between the two words, and that doesn't necessarily imply anything.

[@AsianAmericanGuy]

Great job about that we aren't them

[@mandead10]

Have you ever hear storys about hmoob people that has big muscular body back in China?

[@Lehmbopop]

The Mongolian call themselves "Mongol" pronounced Mong-GoL. You have to pronounce the final consonant "L" too. They never call their country Mongoli or Mongolia. The word Mongoli or Mongolia are English style, like: Korea. Manchuria, China. Muam Nkauj Lig could be an old Hmong city in somewhere in China but surely not Mongolia.

[@97tomv]

Its hard to say. Yu the Great sent a great majority of our people the San Miao to the Northwest to be a buffer against invaders. Some of these may have become the Xiongnu and ancestors of the Mongols that terrorized the Han. The Xiongnu called their king Chanyu. We called ours Chiyou. The Mongols did not come about until Genghis Khan. That was several hundreds of years after the non cincized Xiongnu left Asia. Genghis Khan was said to have reddish hair similar the Hmong.